Thank you. Instead of arguing and going on like Jay and Ben and ect…, they should be comforting each other and trying to get through this. I believe everything was done that could have been done, there’s a time to die. Lola wouldn’t want all this arguing. Blaming is not helping. Focusing on the best way to get Lexi through this together would be helpful. Keep Lola in their hearts and move forward in a positive way.
a day late and a penny short.... the one thing ben is good at is 'abandoning' people he says he'll stand by. That is his super power. That and blaming others for his mistakes.
Sorry I am on Jay's side on this!! Ben would NOT listen!! He isnt the only one whos greiving instead of being there for Lola and Lexi he went to America on some hair brained scheme when everyone told him Lola literally had days to live.
Ben is grieving and like other characters he is grieving in his own way. Ben was scared that Lola will actually die, but coming home and getting Jays Anger isn't good. They're all grieving. But I unterstand Ben points here, that he wanted to help Lola to find a cure.
@@abbieroseholden4174 I understand both sides here, Ben didn't understand that is the reality that Lola only have days to live. Jay and Ben will have a heated conversation, their tension is rising. I don't want their friendship to be ruined.
@@abbieroseholden4174First stage in grief is Denial. And it is a big bear to tackle. Add in the mental health implications Ben is suffering from following the SA last year and the ED currently and the feeling of having no control over any aspect of his life I can understand how his desperation could push him to make the decisions he did. Was it the right decision for Lexi, no but it could well have been the only decision he could make when he was locked into denial over Lola's dying. For him to accept that the consultation in America was never going to work, requires him to accept that Lola was going to die, and he wasnt there yet. That's grief, stage 1. There are no rules to grief and everyone reacts differently. And no one way is right. That's the horrible nature of it.
i'm on ben's side, even though deep down he knew it was too late and nothing could be done he still went out of his way to try and help lola so I think the others need to calm down, see it for what it is and get off his back.
Horrible situation but Slightly better to live with the regret of not saying goodbye than feeling like you didn’t do all you could to help no matter what others say. Not everyone wants to deal with the pain of saying “goodbye” anyway.
In experience, theres nothing anyone could do with someone with a terminal illness. Being there is number one. Everyone was there for Lola apart from Ben and her mum. Ben broke his promise and was a coward for not being there for his daughter, and her mum didn't care anyway. Jay had every right to say what he said.
No he didn’t he went and tried to help her mom ! Ben not being there was cause he was thinking of her not because he didn’t care that do not make him a coward y’all be just saying anything and it’s annoying who cares about her mom she barely knew her anyways but don’t put Ben in the same category
@@malikmartinez1454 Ben deliberately didn't answer calls/messages from anyone including Lexi. He made no attempts to check in despite the severity of the situation. Lola could've passed at any time and his daughter needed him. There is no legitimate justification for Ben not staying in touch. Ben, did what Ben usually does. His 10 year old daughter even assumed he ran away. That was not because she believes her father to be reliable or emotionally responsible. What about what Lola wanted? Ben is not a medical professional, the patient, patient's spouse or guardian. What was he realistically going to accomplish with Lola being in England and so extremely ill? He abandoned Lexi/Lola for nothing.
@@no_fan_girlno_fan_girl6769 first of all he don’t owe Lola anything so he didn’t abandoned her secondly he still tried his best to help her mom at the end of rather his is medical profession or not he did everything is power save her while all her husband did was sit ask Ben for money all the time or ask Ben to help with their finances he didn’t abound his daughter she needed him and he was doing what he thought was best for his daughter you might agree but don’t make like it was for Ben been saying it the whole time he was going to fight for her and he did even it was a waste of time he gave money when they needed it , he worked more hours when jay didn’t wanna fulfill his part in the car place they own together , he even agreed to give PR when he really don’t need to have it to be Lexi life but once again ben gave in and let him have it meanwhile jay barley gave a crap about soon as him and Lola broke up ! And idc about what he did for her when she was first born everybody in was having a tough time and no he wasn’t there but things changed he’s very present and a good father everybody human and makes mistakes but he got a lot of trauma going on at once right so he’s battling but he’s definitely a great father and he didn’t abandon her
@@malikmartinez1454 Ben didn't accomplish anything by going to the US. Did he save Lola? No! What did he accomplish? Absolutely Nothing! 😂 I don't care at all about Ben's trauma. Ben is a grown man who has done nothing positive to try and address that trauma. He's responsible for the decisions he makes. Whether, that's drug use, random hookups, criminal activity or his disappearing acts. His daughter should be his #1 Priority. Ben is Not a good father. What good parent would not at least stay in touch and check in with his kid? He couldn't be bothered to even answer the phone. Perhaps, you think that's being a good father but I think it's ok to have higher expectations than that. Lol!
Jay needed to tell Ben as a friend and as a brother. If you look at it nobody wins bottom line. Jay's mad and upset that Lola died he oost his wife and best mate and he's trying to hold it together for Lexi and the family and all he wanted was Ben to be there with him and could he do that no. I even said Jay was going to kill Ben. I'm pretty sure in coming days Jay will probably hit Ben or fight him. Or even Billy.
Jay doesn't really mean it he just angry and hurt and he just needed someone to take it out on and it just happened to Ben. I feel so bad for Ben though I so wanted him to get back in time so heart breaking that he is never going to get a proper goodbye but he kissed her goodnight. 💔💔💔 I just hope he can get through this and Lexi through it.💔
I agree with Jay but the writing is poor. The writers obviously know nothing about how a criminal record affects a character. This plot sloppy writing. EastEnders is a soap but Ben criminal record he wouldn't get permission to get into United States. He would need a waiver and permission not easy to get.Jay is correct Ben knew the drug trial a long shot. Ben couldn't handle Lola dying because he is irresponsible. It is Ben responsibility to raise Lexi he is the biological father. He ran away doing something. I got a feeling Ben was doing something else in America beyond just trying to help Lola.
I knew it. I fricking knew it. I was just saying ben would blame someone else. These writers need to give him character growth. Now that Lola's dead, he needs to step up and be a good dad. It's not that hard to make it happen.
Even Billy here knew better not to judge too much, after smashing a shop and being bailed out just in time... Death of a loved one can make you irrational.
Ben was absolutely right and I’m fully agreed with him that whole way here when he says they should’ve fought harder for Lola. He was trying to do more for her than all of them combined ever did. Billy and Jay are more to blame for her death than her cancer was in my opinion
ben is not right. he should say goodbye to lola not travel to usa. he should be next to his daughter than travel somewhere else. jay is right. jay is her husband not ben. ben not have right make decision on lola medical decision. ben should think more abut his daughter. he didn;t answer anyone call lexi too so if he answer the calls he would know to come back earlier.
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Ben was trying to save her. And he’ll have to live with Jay’s Anger for a while.
Well said Jay!
Thank you. Instead of arguing and going on like Jay and Ben and ect…, they should be comforting each other and trying to get through this. I believe everything was done that could have been done, there’s a time to die. Lola wouldn’t want all this arguing. Blaming is not helping. Focusing on the best way to get Lexi through this together would be helpful. Keep Lola in their hearts and move forward in a positive way.
I really want Jay to punch Ben, he needs to left that anger out and past time that Ben supports Jay for once
This is so hard to watch..great performance
"Change anyfink" "Oh washa" 😂
a day late and a penny short.... the one thing ben is good at is 'abandoning' people he says he'll stand by. That is his super power. That and blaming others for his mistakes.
So heartbeaking to watch 💔 really going to miss lola so much she was amazing actress
Sorry I am on Jay's side on this!! Ben would NOT listen!! He isnt the only one whos greiving instead of being there for Lola and Lexi he went to America on some hair brained scheme when everyone told him Lola literally had days to live.
When he left he was told weeks in fairness 🤷♀️🤷♀️
Ben is grieving and like other characters he is grieving in his own way. Ben was scared that Lola will actually die, but coming home and getting Jays Anger isn't good. They're all grieving. But I unterstand Ben points here, that he wanted to help Lola to find a cure.
No team Jay on this!! Ben would NOT listen!! Everyone kept telling him Lola only has days to live
@@abbieroseholden4174 I understand both sides here, Ben didn't understand that is the reality that Lola only have days to live. Jay and Ben will have a heated conversation, their tension is rising. I don't want their friendship to be ruined.
@@abbieroseholden4174First stage in grief is Denial. And it is a big bear to tackle. Add in the mental health implications Ben is suffering from following the SA last year and the ED currently and the feeling of having no control over any aspect of his life I can understand how his desperation could push him to make the decisions he did. Was it the right decision for Lexi, no but it could well have been the only decision he could make when he was locked into denial over Lola's dying. For him to accept that the consultation in America was never going to work, requires him to accept that Lola was going to die, and he wasnt there yet. That's grief, stage 1. There are no rules to grief and everyone reacts differently. And no one way is right. That's the horrible nature of it.
i'm on ben's side, even though deep down he knew it was too late and nothing could be done he still went out of his way to try and help lola so I think the others need to calm down, see it for what it is and get off his back.
I agree
Jay is Right to Be Mad at Ben it Serves Ben Right Good Job Jay 👏 😂
Horrible situation but Slightly better to live with the regret of not saying goodbye than feeling like you didn’t do all you could to help no matter what others say. Not everyone wants to deal with the pain of saying “goodbye” anyway.
In experience, theres nothing anyone could do with someone with a terminal illness. Being there is number one. Everyone was there for Lola apart from Ben and her mum. Ben broke his promise and was a coward for not being there for his daughter, and her mum didn't care anyway. Jay had every right to say what he said.
No he didn’t he went and tried to help her mom ! Ben not being there was cause he was thinking of her not because he didn’t care that do not make him a coward y’all be just saying anything and it’s annoying who cares about her mom she barely knew her anyways but don’t put Ben in the same category
@@malikmartinez1454 Ben deliberately didn't answer calls/messages from anyone including Lexi. He made no attempts to check in despite the severity of the situation. Lola could've passed at any time and his daughter needed him. There is no legitimate justification for Ben not staying in touch. Ben, did what Ben usually does. His 10 year old daughter even assumed he ran away. That was not because she believes her father to be reliable or emotionally responsible. What about what Lola wanted?
Ben is not a medical professional, the patient, patient's spouse or guardian. What was he realistically going to accomplish with Lola being in England and so extremely ill? He abandoned Lexi/Lola for nothing.
@@no_fan_girlno_fan_girl6769 first of all he don’t owe Lola anything so he didn’t abandoned her secondly he still tried his best to help her mom at the end of rather his is medical profession or not he did everything is power save her while all her husband did was sit ask Ben for money all the time or ask Ben to help with their finances he didn’t abound his daughter she needed him and he was doing what he thought was best for his daughter you might agree but don’t make like it was for Ben been saying it the whole time he was going to fight for her and he did even it was a waste of time he gave money when they needed it , he worked more hours when jay didn’t wanna fulfill his part in the car place they own together , he even agreed to give PR when he really don’t need to have it to be Lexi life but once again ben gave in and let him have it meanwhile jay barley gave a crap about soon as him and Lola broke up ! And idc about what he did for her when she was first born everybody in was having a tough time and no he wasn’t there but things changed he’s very present and a good father everybody human and makes mistakes but he got a lot of trauma going on at once right so he’s battling but he’s definitely a great father and he didn’t abandon her
@@malikmartinez1454 Ben didn't accomplish anything by going to the US. Did he save Lola? No! What did he accomplish? Absolutely Nothing! 😂 I don't care at all about Ben's trauma. Ben is a grown man who has done nothing positive to try and address that trauma. He's responsible for the decisions he makes. Whether, that's drug use, random hookups, criminal activity or his disappearing acts. His daughter should be his #1 Priority. Ben is Not a good father. What good parent would not at least stay in touch and check in with his kid? He couldn't be bothered to even answer the phone. Perhaps, you think that's being a good father but I think it's ok to have higher expectations than that. Lol!
@@no_fan_girlno_fan_girl6769 girl stfu he’s a good father I’m not going keep writing paragraphs with you
Poor boys 💔
Jay needed to tell Ben as a friend and as a brother. If you look at it nobody wins bottom line. Jay's mad and upset that Lola died he oost his wife and best mate and he's trying to hold it together for Lexi and the family and all he wanted was Ben to be there with him and could he do that no. I even said Jay was going to kill Ben. I'm pretty sure in coming days Jay will probably hit Ben or fight him. Or even Billy.
Jay doesn't really mean it he just angry and hurt and he just needed someone to take it out on and it just happened to Ben.
I feel so bad for Ben though I so wanted him to get back in time so heart breaking that he is never going to get a proper goodbye but he kissed her goodnight. 💔💔💔
I just hope he can get through this and Lexi through it.💔
I agree with Jay but the writing is poor. The writers obviously know nothing about how a criminal record affects a character. This plot sloppy writing. EastEnders is a soap but Ben criminal record he wouldn't get permission to get into United States. He would need a waiver and permission not easy to get.Jay is correct Ben knew the drug trial a long shot. Ben couldn't handle Lola dying because he is irresponsible. It is Ben responsibility to raise Lexi he is the biological father. He ran away doing something. I got a feeling Ben was doing something else in America beyond just trying to help Lola.
Does ben still have sole parental right becuase i assume it take few mouths to go through the process
Poor Ben!!
No
I knew it. I fricking knew it. I was just saying ben would blame someone else. These writers need to give him character growth. Now that Lola's dead, he needs to step up and be a good dad. It's not that hard to make it happen.
Stop the bs! He was trying to help
Him and Lexi has a great a bond yea ben not really a thinker when he’s in a bad state but he’s definitely a good dad
He wasn’t blaming anyone for anything.
He /just/ got back and he’s in shock. People don’t just change in 2 seconds. Give it a bit. Lol
Even Billy here knew better not to judge too much, after smashing a shop and being bailed out just in time... Death of a loved one can make you irrational.
Bad timing Ben
Jay when to the bathroom he miss het died
Ben was absolutely right and I’m fully agreed with him that whole way here when he says they should’ve fought harder for Lola. He was trying to do more for her than all of them combined ever did. Billy and Jay are more to blame for her death than her cancer was in my opinion
ben is not right. he should say goodbye to lola not travel to usa. he should be next to his daughter than travel somewhere else. jay is right. jay is her husband not ben. ben not have right make decision on lola medical decision. ben should think more abut his daughter. he didn;t answer anyone call lexi too so if he answer the calls he would know to come back earlier.