Great to see Charlie again after Long Way Down and LW Around! Hope the leg heals and we see you again(from a fan in upstate NY)! Love the Thruxton R, partial to the speed triple!!
It’s kind of ridiculous trying to find out which of these bikes is “best”. They’re designed for two different things, and different riding styles. I think they’re both great.
I could hear Charlie talk for hours and not get tired. Nice view on both bikes. There is no reason why one that is in the market for an HD wouldn't consider the Bobber. It has character, power, efficiency and the finish is amazing.
Now that some time has passed, i wonder if any Bobber riders can comment on the seating position. I’m especially interested if the suspension is harsh enough to aggravate those of us with some back pain. My Thruxton R is fine in that regard, with a bit more weight on the wrists, arms and chest, and off the spine. Really curious. Love the Bobber looks! TIA
Charley Boorman, what a legend. Great comparison. I love both of these bikes. Used to have a bonnie with the thruxton bars on it and I miss the hell out of it.
The thruxton r for me .. I rode the bobber from bedford to Brighton and back again for my charity event although I liked it and it was great on the distance and handled great, the thruxton is just prue fun and a style I prefer.. maybe you just have to have both..
I have the Truxton R. Itis a terrific bike. The quality of the fit and finish is just astounding. I also have a Harley Road king. That's fun in its own way. But the Thruxton makes me wish I could own the entire Bonneville line.
I have been lucky enough to test ride Thruxton R and there is no doubt about it, it is a tremendous machine the handling is absolutely first-class it just tips into the corner and stays there like it's on rails.
Rode a Bobber while my Scrambler was being serviced and enjoyed it, goes very well, handles very well and looks nice. However, the standard single rear shock was poor, at least on Sussex/Kent roads. The jarring I felt going over potholes and manhole covers reduced the overall pleasure. Previous I rode one with the Fox suspension upgrade which was much better, but I'm a bit disappointed Triumph chose to fit an inadequate unit in the first place. That having been said, this bike and the likely variants will be causing big worries in Milwaukee! Expect the Little Handed Orange Twat to add Triumph to the list of undesirables banned for the US soon!
A great video of the bikes and a real insight into what the two bikes deliver. Great to see Charlie B giving his opinion on both. Did not realise Dave Coaches (Gavin & Stacey) was a presenter for visor down?
If you're into bobber/chopper/cruiser you will like the Bobber and won't give the Thruxton a second look. If you're into retro sport bikes, the Thruxton is your thing without any consideration for the Bobber. It is like being torn between a Heritage Softail and a Ninja 300 ... sort your life out!
I agree...i'm in the market for one or the other and i honestly just cant decide which. For the past 20 yrs i have only ridden/owned Ducatis but the overly futuristic 'transformer' looks leave me cold (which is not just Ducati) so i can see myself as a Triumph owner
I would love to own both. ....I don't think you can go wrong with either bike. Lean angel will be greater on the cafe racer. But if you're interested in just relaxing and hanging out, I like the bobber.
This is the Golden era of Triumph motorbikes. Lets hope brexit won't spoil the party. I thought a Triumph Bonneville T120 would be enough for me but I had to get the Thruxton R as well. They are two very different characters in the same family so I love them both equally.
For toddling around wet roads, I'd take the Bobber too as it'd be more comfortable with it's upright seating. When the road dries out and the speed picks up, it's over. The Bobber rider would scrape the bottoms off his exhausts trying to keep up.
I recently took a Bobber out for a test ride and spent a very pleasant sunny morning blasting through the Cotswolds. It was "nice" but it didn't knock my socks off. Having read and watched a load of reviews I expected the handling to be quicker than it was. It was good compared to similar machines from Harley, Victory, etc but not as quick to turn as a lot of these reviews would have you believe. I could've lived with that but where has the power gone? I found it adequately rapid but that's not what I want from a Bobber. I was hoping for some "shit my pants" acceleration in a straight line and the thrills just weren't there. Something like a Harley Superglide with an extra 200cc feels a lot more rapid with a real kick in the backside. It's a very pretty bike and I really wanted to like it (I have owned loads of Triumphs. I am a fan) but just for naked thrills (although a different beast) something like a Yamaha MT-09 is far better. If they could just put some real grunt in the motor I would seriously consider it, but not as it is right now. Does anyone do any tuning ? :-D
OK DAMN IT NOW I'M BACK TO THE BOBBER 3 WEEKS NOW I WAS READY TO BUY, 15 YEARS ON A SPORT BIKE IN CALI MOUNTAINS & ITS HARD TO LET GO OF THAT POSITION BUT I LOVE EVERYTHING ABOUT THE BOBBER!
How long did/does it take to ride from Shoreditch out to Hertford? That's the only drawback of owning a bike and living in London - it takes ages to get anywhere good to ride, well apart from the insurance costs.
The Bonneville range was the topic of the video and the comments. Thankfully, yes, not the whole line is made overseas. Shame that the heritage bikes, which are most associated with Triumph's history, aren't made in GB. Hmmm, I suppose a hardcore Brit buyer could have one imported to England, disassemble it piece by piece, then put it back together and slap on a Made In GB decal...
I would love to own the regular Bonneville T120 with a HP engine. Perhaps on a diet to so it doesn´t weight 20 kg more than the thruxton. It would be my dream Thriumph but the T120 is already a good bike.
@@ThiefOfNavarre I don´t agree. Bonneville is in my opinion a better looking bike than the Speed Twin. Spoked wheels and a lot of details that differs. I can´t see why it couldn´t have the HP engine and a bit better suspension. Especially at the price.
Having ridden them both, the Thruxton is easily the better all round bike! Go try them for yourself and see which one floats your boat rather than some journo telling you what to buy.
Neill Exactly! So many opinionated people on the internet giving advice and opinions without even having ridden a specific bike but all of a sudden they think they are experts. My motto is ride what you like and like what you ride, but just ride man (or woman), just ride. Ride safe.
Good to see this review, shame though there was much stuttering & unsurity about what was being described about the Bike & handling. Glad Charlie's still in one-piece.
Fuck me! I’m watching this, eager to go ride and in 48hrs I won’t be able able to for 3.5 months. December 1 to March 15 it’s illegal in my Canadian province. 😩
I have tested them both, but liked the Bobber more, a lot more. But, the brakes, wth how can a bike 2017 be allowed to sell with those brakes, so bad. And a minor thing was that I felt like it flexed/snaked a bit where the rear shock is, very odd. But the brakes, Omg how are they even be approved for road use with such bad brakes. Other than that, the Bobber was super cool, waiting for a new revision of it.
The best thing Triumph have done over the last few years is to end their obsession with copying and trying to compete with BMW. My last two Triumphs were the Street Triple and the Tiger 1050 and since then their model line up was dire they lost the connection with their core base. I have just bought the Bobber and as far as I am concerned they are now back where they should be manufacturing bikes that people want to buy. I few tears ago I could walk into a Triumph showroom and there was nothing there that interested me. When I bought the Bobber there were several bikes including the Thruxton that I wanted to buy. Now just bring production back to the UK and dump the rubbish that the Chinese are producing on the cheap and stealing Triumph's R and D that will solve Triumph's horrendous reliability reputation and they may have a very successful company on their hands.
To the video editor, please, please, please, please, please refrain from injecting music into motorcycle videos. The motorcycles should be providing the music.
Think ill take my triumph and disassemble it. Take it to America. Put it together and call it an Harley. Its a British bike. Put together to British standards. No matter where you build it up. But who cares. Love the brand anyways. No complaints
Just one little thing- these are Hinkleys, not Triumphs! There is NO connection between the two companies. Annoying when looking for something on youtube on classic Triumphs.
PS. IT IS NOT BRITISH, nothing on it beside maybe, just maybe the tyres maybe British. I has an old British name. Triumph does not make these bikes in Britain.
They assemble them here though "Triumph has six-world class factories around the world. Two of these factories are based in Hinckley in the UK, just a stone's throw from the Mallory Park race track. There are also three factories in Chonburi, Thailand, and one in Manaus, Brazil."
ray b - They are designed in Britain by the British. Just because you "assemble" my product somewhere else, doesn't make it yours. Also, what does an old British name mean? Do they have to have a "New" British name to be something they always were? They've always had the name Triumph, lol. I mean hell, I guess Honda and Kawasaki aren't Japanese because they have an "Old" Japanese name.
Thanks for fixing the video, it's good to know that you guys read your comments, very good review. 👍🏽
Great to see Charlie again after Long Way Down and LW Around! Hope the leg heals and we see you again(from a fan in upstate NY)! Love the Thruxton R, partial to the speed triple!!
"If only I could afford them both" says Charley. Well have a word with Triumph then. You are one of their Global Brand Ambassadors after all !
It’s kind of ridiculous trying to find out which of these bikes is “best”. They’re designed for two different things, and different riding styles.
I think they’re both great.
racist bikes.
@@terryjohn hahahahhahaha. God one
Great review. We really do need to see more of Charley.
Nice report, well done! I am with Charley, love my TTR! But the Bobber has qualities all to itself!
I could hear Charlie talk for hours and not get tired. Nice view on both bikes. There is no reason why one that is in the market for an HD wouldn't consider the Bobber. It has character, power, efficiency and the finish is amazing.
check out " Ewan and Thingy " on you tube . Shows what a tit Borman is
You do know that's not actually Charley Boorman in those spoof videos?
You do know that it's called satire ?
Spoof synonyms: parody, takeoff [informal] , satire, caricature.
Pedantry synonyms: hairsplitting, quibbling, pomposity. ;)
you had two days to think that up .............It wasn't worth the wait
I love twins so I must try these bikes out for myself. I can't imagine touring Europe on one of these, but they sure look a whole load of fun.
Now that some time has passed, i wonder if any Bobber riders can comment on the seating position. I’m especially interested if the suspension is harsh enough to aggravate those of us with some back pain. My Thruxton R is fine in that regard, with a bit more weight on the wrists, arms and chest, and off the spine. Really curious. Love the Bobber looks! TIA
you always have a choice!!! mine was the bobber black!!!!😎
Charley Boorman, what a legend. Great comparison. I love both of these bikes. Used to have a bonnie with the thruxton bars on it and I miss the hell out of it.
The thruxton r for me .. I rode the bobber from bedford to Brighton and back again for my charity event although I liked it and it was great on the distance and handled great, the thruxton is just prue fun and a style I prefer.. maybe you just have to have both..
I have the Truxton R. Itis a terrific bike. The quality of the fit and finish is just astounding. I also have a Harley Road king. That's fun in its own way. But the Thruxton makes me wish I could own the entire Bonneville line.
Good to see Charley back 👍
Just buy both for the price of a focus!
I have been lucky enough to test ride Thruxton R and there is no doubt about it, it is a tremendous machine the handling is absolutely first-class it just tips into the corner and stays there like it's on rails.
I'd happily take either (or both), although if I was forced to only have one bonneville, I'd probably take a T120 instead.
Since when did Charlie Boorman sound like George from Rainbow?
Charley Boorman, top bloke 👍🏼 great video
Bobber all the way for me...
Rode a Bobber while my Scrambler was being serviced and enjoyed it, goes very well, handles very well and looks nice. However, the standard single rear shock was poor, at least on Sussex/Kent roads. The jarring I felt going over potholes and manhole covers reduced the overall pleasure. Previous I rode one with the Fox suspension upgrade which was much better, but I'm a bit disappointed Triumph chose to fit an inadequate unit in the first place. That having been said, this bike and the likely variants will be causing big worries in Milwaukee! Expect the Little Handed Orange Twat to add Triumph to the list of undesirables banned for the US soon!
Richard Naef the bobber is really expensive for what it is.
A great video of the bikes and a real insight into what the two bikes deliver. Great to see Charlie B giving his opinion on both.
Did not realise Dave Coaches (Gavin & Stacey) was a presenter for visor down?
If you're into bobber/chopper/cruiser you will like the Bobber and won't give the Thruxton a second look. If you're into retro sport bikes, the Thruxton is your thing without any consideration for the Bobber. It is like being torn between a Heritage Softail and a Ninja 300 ... sort your life out!
I agree...i'm in the market for one or the other and i honestly just cant decide which. For the past 20 yrs i have only ridden/owned Ducatis but the overly futuristic 'transformer' looks leave me cold (which is not just Ducati) so i can see myself as a Triumph owner
I would love to own both. ....I don't think you can go wrong with either bike. Lean angel will be greater on the cafe racer. But if you're interested in just relaxing and hanging out, I like the bobber.
LOL! Charley had you stuttering along with him a bit by mid-video. Funny how that works.
- RunningWithScissors - Same thing happens between me and my friends haha
Charley Boorman ...The answer to a question NO biker asked! I think Triumph have dropped him now? (Not before time)
This is the Golden era of Triumph motorbikes. Lets hope brexit won't spoil the party. I thought a Triumph Bonneville T120 would be enough for me but I had to get the Thruxton R as well. They are two very different characters in the same family so I love them both equally.
My favorite Bonnie is the offspring of the Thruxton R and the Bobber....the Bobber TFC :-)
why not use the Bobber Black with the upgraded brakes and forks? wouldnt that be even closer to the Thruxton R?
Yeah, it's comparing apples with oranges. Both say triumph on them, comparison ends there
For toddling around wet roads, I'd take the Bobber too as it'd be more comfortable with it's upright seating. When the road dries out and the speed picks up, it's over. The Bobber rider would scrape the bottoms off his exhausts trying to keep up.
Performance has a different meaning to different people, it doesn't just mean faster. It can mean more comfortable, smoother, etc.
I recently took a Bobber out for a test ride and spent a very pleasant sunny morning blasting through the Cotswolds. It was "nice" but it didn't knock my socks off. Having read and watched a load of reviews I expected the handling to be quicker than it was. It was good compared to similar machines from Harley, Victory, etc but not as quick to turn as a lot of these reviews would have you believe. I could've lived with that but where has the power gone? I found it adequately rapid but that's not what I want from a Bobber. I was hoping for some "shit my pants" acceleration in a straight line and the thrills just weren't there. Something like a Harley Superglide with an extra 200cc feels a lot more rapid with a real kick in the backside. It's a very pretty bike and I really wanted to like it (I have owned loads of Triumphs. I am a fan) but just for naked thrills (although a different beast) something like a Yamaha MT-09 is far better. If they could just put some real grunt in the motor I would seriously consider it, but not as it is right now. Does anyone do any tuning ? :-D
Does anyone know what jacket Charley is wearing at minute 5? Thanks for any help.
Prefer v twin to vertical twin. The latest developement of Triumph is fantastic. Do they have the grunt cimpared to 4s and vtwin?
OK DAMN IT NOW I'M BACK TO THE BOBBER 3 WEEKS NOW I WAS READY TO BUY, 15 YEARS ON A SPORT BIKE IN CALI MOUNTAINS & ITS HARD TO LET GO OF THAT POSITION BUT I LOVE EVERYTHING ABOUT THE BOBBER!
How long did/does it take to ride from Shoreditch out to Hertford? That's the only drawback of owning a bike and living in London - it takes ages to get anywhere good to ride, well apart from the insurance costs.
The Bonneville range was the topic of the video and the comments. Thankfully, yes, not the whole line is made overseas. Shame that the heritage bikes, which are most associated with Triumph's history, aren't made in GB. Hmmm, I suppose a hardcore Brit buyer could have one imported to England, disassemble it piece by piece, then put it back together and slap on a Made In GB decal...
I want them both ...and a Scrambler ...and a T120.
I would love to own the regular Bonneville T120 with a HP engine. Perhaps on a diet to so it doesn´t weight 20 kg more than the thruxton. It would be my dream Thriumph but the T120 is already a good bike.
They make one. It's called the speed twin
@@ThiefOfNavarre I don´t agree. Bonneville is in my opinion a better looking bike than the Speed Twin. Spoked wheels and a lot of details that differs. I can´t see why it couldn´t have the HP engine and a bit better suspension. Especially at the price.
@@jorgeneriksson3144 Yeah the suspension is a let down. Could have at least had adjustable all round
Time to bring back a big bore Tbird...please 👍
Phenomenal video!
Having ridden them both, the Thruxton is easily the better all round bike! Go try them for yourself and see which one floats your boat rather than some journo telling you what to buy.
Neill Exactly! So many opinionated people on the internet giving advice and opinions without even having ridden a specific bike but all of a sudden they think they are experts. My motto is ride what you like and like what you ride, but just ride man (or woman), just ride. Ride safe.
Charley is great ..big fan got thruxton 900 mint 2008 xxxx
which one can you lean more?
What open face helmet are you wearing here?
I want to watch this but the backing music is ruining it!!
Good to see this review, shame though there was much stuttering & unsurity about what was being described about the Bike & handling. Glad Charlie's still in one-piece.
Interesting, cheers.
The blonde guy is a hoot isnt he? Didnt crack a smile the whole video...
If he could afford it?
Great, alway wondered about this.
Fuck me! I’m watching this, eager to go ride and in 48hrs I won’t be able able to for 3.5 months. December 1 to March 15 it’s illegal in my Canadian province. 😩
The video for all intents and purposes ends about 15 seconds after 3:52
Unfortunately the Bobber has very ridiculous small fuel tank ?
Should have asked Charlie which one he would buy if he didn't own a bike. :)
Yeah, seemed an obvious question
Bobber for me ... stunning Bike, Racing Green and Silver thanks and I'm done.
I have tested them both, but liked the Bobber more, a lot more. But, the brakes, wth how can a bike 2017 be allowed to sell with those brakes, so bad. And a minor thing was that I felt like it flexed/snaked a bit where the rear shock is, very odd. But the brakes, Omg how are they even be approved for road use with such bad brakes. Other than that, the Bobber was super cool, waiting for a new revision of it.
I thought they were made in Thailand
Thruxton are still being made in the UK as far as I know. These things are always subject to change.
Charlie is James may's cousin, fun fact.
Long Way Back?! What?!?!
I think he was just referring to how long his leg is taking to heal.
no its his autobiography. not another trip.
Thanks for that info. Will be buying it shortly.
The best thing Triumph have done over the last few years is to end their obsession with copying and trying to compete with BMW. My last two Triumphs were the Street Triple and the Tiger 1050 and since then their model line up was dire they lost the connection with their core base. I have just bought the Bobber and as far as I am concerned they are now back where they should be manufacturing bikes that people want to buy. I few tears ago I could walk into a Triumph showroom and there was nothing there that interested me. When I bought the Bobber there were several bikes including the Thruxton that I wanted to buy. Now just bring production back to the UK and dump the rubbish that the Chinese are producing on the cheap and stealing Triumph's R and D that will solve Triumph's horrendous reliability reputation and they may have a very successful company on their hands.
A good vid worth watching
Brunch racer...the Bobber!
Triumph needs to release a TT like the export only 60s Bonneville. Thruxton engine in T120 guise
To the video editor, please, please, please, please, please refrain from injecting music into motorcycle videos. The motorcycles should be providing the music.
I think the bobber looks better
awesome ..triumph always triumphs...if not in speed then in class...i had a 2009 900 thruxton but id take the bobber any day
Thruxton is NOT 1200 HP. He says so wrongly at 05:30. It is CC and not HP
HP refers to its 'High Power' engine! I like that you thought people might be wondering whether had around 4x the power of, say, a Kawasaki H2R...
Can I have the bobber speedmaster instead😬
I watch all Visordown videos, but I don''t like either of these bikes.
British made? Aren't the Bobbers made in Thailand?
Think ill take my triumph and disassemble it. Take it to America. Put it together and call it an Harley. Its a British bike. Put together to British standards. No matter where you build it up. But who cares. Love the brand anyways. No complaints
"Ones a Bobber the others a cafe racer"
Not really though are they. Nice bikes but they are inspired by those bikes rather than actually BEING one
One more slip and he's back in hospital.
Bobber for me, awesome
The bobber is way too expensive for what it is.
compared to a harley, you think!!!!
THRUXTON looks cramped.....and the BOBBER has only one seat...cant share the fun.
Charlie doesn't like triumphs. He,s a harley man. So why do this. Wrong person
나는 이상하게 들린다 왼쪽사람이 말하는게 너무 심하게 더듬는다 집중이 전혀안된다 버퍼링이 있는 느낌이다
Sorry Charlie. But their not made in England. Try Thailand.
Oh FFS. The Thruxton by a long shot. That pos bobber is only good for the cliff scene in Quadrophenia.
Just one little thing- these are Hinkleys, not Triumphs! There is NO connection between the two companies. Annoying when looking for something on youtube on classic Triumphs.
2 made in England or NO made in Thailand bikes.............No thanks
Bobber
British owned by bmw!!😂😂
Boreman. Meh.
PS. IT IS NOT BRITISH, nothing on it beside maybe, just maybe the tyres maybe British. I has an old British name. Triumph does not make these bikes in Britain.
They assemble them here though
"Triumph has six-world class factories around the world. Two of these factories are based in Hinckley in the UK, just a stone's throw from the Mallory Park race track. There are also three factories in Chonburi, Thailand, and one in Manaus, Brazil."
ray b - They are designed in Britain by the British. Just because you "assemble" my product somewhere else, doesn't make it yours. Also, what does an old British name mean? Do they have to have a "New" British name to be something they always were? They've always had the name Triumph, lol. I mean hell, I guess Honda and Kawasaki aren't Japanese because they have an "Old" Japanese name.
rabbish review
Not British made, Thailand made in fact
kentoxymoron not for the British market they are from hinckley England i believe some sold elsewhere may be assembled in Thailand
Dusty Rhodes they are designed in England & made in Thailand. They are sold in the U.K.
Assembled.....is slightly different but yes
They are assembled in Thailand, how does that make them 'British Made'?
Parts....made....assembled....i'm not arguing, just defining.
Kentoxymoron is correct, these are not British made. You want genuine 'British made'? Get a new Norton Commando.
Moto 949 some are still made in Hinckley..rocket,explorer,the 1050's,speed triple,and tiger? but for howlong before they're all made abroad??
"Assembled"
Why do Triumph hire Charley ???