Love the way you put the skis in order of how you think they ski. That helps so much, especially for those of us that have skied a couple on the wall but wouldn’t otherwise know where they sit. That was the most valuable part of this review.
I like that you guys throw in your personal preferences. Different skiers, sizes and styles. You acknowledge different types of skis and don't expect them all to be the same to all skiers. Too many reviews rank skis best to worse but depending on the skier, that ranking could be flipped. Too many don't give credit for a ski being great at what it does or designed to do. Often, the higher ranked skis need to be skied fast to get the performance out of them. I've slowed down. I'm more interested in a playful ski I can easily throw around and don't have to drive hard to perform. Love all the skis being lined up and getting comparisons. Very informative!
Great videos! I feel like I understand ski construction and performance much better now. My only trouble is trying to figure out from the couch what type of ski I'd enjoy. I'm a lifetime hobby skier, downhill in my youth, then XC and tele, now in my late 40s I'm returning to the resorts in Oregon with my middle school aged kids and want to try locking my heel down again. I'm not a hard charging skier, but would like to get better at carving yet think I'd still like a bit of playfulness in my ski. I'm looking at the camox, ripstick 96 and ranger 96. I will probably mount with a downhill binding, but if I got something light like the ripstick, I suppose I could mount a fritschi tecton and have a single ski for resort and the occasional backcountry lap. Thoughts? Any of the 3 would probably be super fun.
As always great job guys. Love this format. I could finally get a grasp on the how the tech, shape and weight fits with performance and placement on the wall.
Hey thanks for the vid, I've gotten a pair of enforcers 94 and already have a few days through them. I think you've assessed them quite well. I'm a ex racer who likes everything from carving to trees, moguls, cliffs and big air (where are the true big ones ? Looks like they disapeared from ours stations) For carving they like be at an high angle, they will allow you to charge right through! A bit stiff for moguls and trees for average skiers, you need to visualise your line if you want to push your speed, yet if you use them with a soft almost like your braking slowly with low angle turn they will suddenly be much easier to turn (almost like they want to turn). The stiffness also means they can be quite bouncy allowing for impressive pops when making successive jumps. This power is also usefull in narrow lined cliffs or when landing big jumps to allow you to be stable in this sudden acceleration.
I have 2 seasons on the Stance 96 and all I can say is that this is the ski for me. I have no issues applying speed when necessary and always in full control. They are responsive in the chutes, great in POW and most of the guys are behind me when we finish a run. I ski out of Kicking Horse Mtn Resort.
Good summary of these all mountain rippers. If I didn't already have eight pair of skis mounted and ready to ski, I might be interested in one of these. Having just put a Ripstick Tour 104/Marker Alpinist 12 setup together, I think I'd go for the Ripstick 96 Black for on-piste carving. I'm headed towards a pair of Ripstick Tour 88s for really lightweight assaults, though. Lift serviced skiing can be fun, but I just don't like skiing on snow that someone else has already skied on before. Plus, I'm on the mountain 5 nights a week as a Pisten Bully mechanic and it's nice to get away.
Got to demo four of these last year and for the second year in a row the atomic maverick’s have been my stand out! Will probably buy a pair this year. Awesome reviews!
Thanks, Chris! It's nice to hear, as we try to keep that in perspective. It's never ALL glamor and glitz, but that's the hope for how it looks on film.
This is amazing content, the best I’ve found by far. I’m a Lake Tahoe area skier and heavy, wet snow is our dominant condition. Obviously very different from both hard Stowe/East Coast and soft, powdery Utah/CO and I’m not sure which kinds of skis work best in this type of snow. Is it better to go lighter/wider and “float” or go with heavier skies with more substantial tips to avoid getting deflected/bounced around too much? I’m a lightweight intermediate/advanced skier optimizing for playful and fun at moderate speeds. The QST/mFree/Ripsticks sound like my kind of skis but I’m worried whether they will be “pushed around” in heavy snow. Any thoughts are greatly appreciated.
I generally feel that if you're an aggressive or expert level skier, the heavier skis make more sense, but for most other skiers, the QST style ski will be more than enough to handle the deeper and mankier of snows. I feel QST is a good mid-weight ski while Ripstick feels a bit lighter.
Hey guys, I'm 6' and 200 Ib, I've been looking for an All Mountain ski for a while, and my list came down to Elan Ripstick 96 Black and Atomic Maverick 95ti, I'm a pretty good skier, ski mostly in Mammoth, I wear Dalbello Panterra 120 Boots, I spend most of the day carving but I want something to hold well in any condition.
I'd say the maverick has a better edge grip due to the metal, but the Elan is a better off-piste and versatile choice. I'd lean to the Ripstick just for an all-around performer, but that's not taking anything away from the Maverick at all. Have fun! SE
Great review - organizing the skis by "slarvey to carvey" was great. I have a special request. I know you evaluated the Armada Declivity 92 TI in your 90mm category, but I was wondering how you would place the Declivity 92 TI compared to the other "mid 90" mm skis since I am considering some skis in the mid 90 mm category in addition to the Declivity . Any feedback you can provide would be great. Thanks!!
It's certainly one of those skis that blurs the line between 90 and mid-90, but we felt it fits a bit better in the 90 because it carves so darn well and doesn't/didn't quite share the same shaping principles as some other mid-90's skis like Rustler 9 or Line Blade Optic 92/96. The Declivity just feels a lot more planted on the snow.
It's a fantastic ski. If you like that, check the Line Vision 108 or Dynastar M-Free 108 for playfulness, or the Armada Declivity 108 or Volkl Katana 108 for a beefier pow ski.
It's pretty difficult because the tele demo thing is pretty much non-existent. I have a solid decade of free-heel skiing under my belt and found that the skis are even more subjective than in an alpine format. My favorites were always the 98-mm twin tips like Dynastar Slicer, and the slightly wider Atomic Automatic 102. Personally, I leaned to the non-metallic skis and the more twin-tipped ones. I'd think on this wall, K2 Poacher, ARV 96 and BC Camox would be at the top of my list.
Torn between Line Blade, Sakana, Liberty Origin 96, and Black Crows Serpo. I'm a 178cm 85kg intermediate skier looking for my first pair of skis. I ski in both chopped on-piste runs/groomers and powder (depends on where I go) so I guess something all-mtn would be good.
I'd say the Serpo is your best bet. The other skis are great and a whole lot of fun, but they're not quite as well-rounded or versatile as the Serpo. If this is your first pair, and you're blending on-piste, soft snow, and crud, the Serpo will give you the most to work with.
Another great summary comparison guys. Thank you! I’m primarily an east coast skier (PA) trying to decide between this range and the 90 group. Where on this wall would the QST 92 have landed?
This is a great summary. With almost no ability to demo skis where I am I am struggling to figure out what will be my next ski. I am an expert, former ski instructor so technically very sound. I currently have my race inspired carvers if it want to go lay tracks on the the groomers but I find myself skiing my current all mountain skis more and more as I love the versatility of skiing them. They are a set of 2014 Line Prophet 90s. Looking to replace them with something maybe a tad wider and similar versatility, but with a bit more power to improve the carving and edge hold a bit (I live in the east with all our ice). If you ever skied the Line prophets for my reference where would you slot those on this wall? I trying to gauge where on this wall I should be looking, Elan Black edition, or enforcer territory. Really appreciate your help.
I've gotten a pair of enforcers 94 and they shred those turns ! They have so much power at the end of the turn and are so rigid you can truly charge with them, even in the trees and the moguls if your good enough. Also great on big jumps in the park or cliffs, just a bit heavy for acrobatics but hey I dont think you care! But here is the catch : the radius is like 17 meters on my 179 cm... And I think its a bit too large a turn, giving the stiffness, to be able to be in the bumps or trees and taking it easy making sloppy turns ! No those are not gonna be fun and they are gonna drive you around (thats what he meant when he said he was feeling all the technical mistakes in all his body, its no joke!) They are simply too powerful to be playfull while chilling. Their playfullness shines when you know what / where / when and with how your gonna do it ! (Ski with purpose) and only in that are they fun. I mean mobilise that powerful rebound to pop that small jump into a far away landing or just plow right through ruined groomers late in the day. Also know that if you make a really low angle almost skidding turn the skis really want to turn, so yes you can manage a lot of terrain... with the required amount of precision ! Their moto is Ride hard or go home ! Wich is fine by me huey huey huey 😂
Mid-90's is a great place to be. Enforcer 94 and Stormrider 95 make a whole lot of sense for both carving and off-piste performance. Black Edition is great, and is very versatile, but not quite as carvy as some others.
This ordering of the skis is insightful. Keep it up. Enforcer are awesome on groomers, hard pack and crud, however I agree with Jeff's comments that Enforcers can be a handful in tight trees and moguls. Context: 5'6" 160lbs on 172 E94, used to be an advanced/expert skier but now over 60 . . Found a good deal on Ripstick 96 so pulled trigger without demo to help in trees and bumps . Happy to see they are at opposite ends of the spectrum from Enforcers
Lots of love for both of those skis. The metal in the Serpo gives it a bit more snappy of a feel, and while the carbon tubes do a lot of the same for the Ripstick, I've just found the Serpo to be more reactive and energetic. If you're on trail more often than not, I'd lean to Serpo, but for off-trail and all-around versatility, it doesn't get more well-rounded than the Elan.
I just want to ski them all.... 🙂 ... thanks for the video! .... always looking forward to your videos... best ones out there... thanks again....Loved the format you used on this one... mid 80's please do the same.... thanks again!
I ski a wide variety of skis - everything from Ripstick 96 on the flimsy side to Bonafides and Enforcers 88s on the other end, but Line Blades are almost always given consideration for the ski of the day. If you aren’t having fun on Blades you’re doing it wrong.
Love the video! I find myself watching all your comparison videos even for ski types I have no interest in! Any advice on length for the Sender 94 Ti? I'm 5' 6", 180, and a fairly aggressive Western skier. I love the bumps most but, at 57 years old, don't have the strength to ski them all day like I used to. I'm looking at the Sender 94 Ti as my one-ski and torn between the 164 and 172. I demo a lot of skis and typically ski between 162 and 175 depending on the ski. I've read the Sender skis a bit short due to the mount point so I'm leaning towards the 172.
Ha! Thanks for watching! It's a great ski and I don't think it skis that short. I'd go with the 164 in that ski if you're caught in the middle. Have fun! SE
Thanks guys ,good job my top 3 to demos here in Colorado above average skier and mostly front and some trees and bumps are Montra ar, ripstick black, mantra. Coming off 3 year old 93 enforcers and was hoping you could rank the skies I'm looking at. Or maybe add something else to look at....Thanks for all you do!!!
Hi Dan! If you're looking for frontside first, followed by trees and bumps, I'd go Ripstick Black first for overall versatility, Mantra second for great carving with some width, and then AR third, mainly because it's more one-dimensional than the other two, even though it's an amazing ski in its own right. I feel the mid-90's is a great place to be for one ski in Colorado.
Funny, after researching skis, I narrowed it down to the Ripstick 96, Ranger 96 and Rustler 9 (ironically all start with "R"), with the outliers of Enforcer and Maverick. And you have the three "R's" all in a row. I guess I know what I am interested in based on this video. haha. I appreciate all the info you guys put out - both video and written. If I need any more guidance, is there a way to reach someone for more detail on a comparison and my needs?
Thank you so much for the excellent reviews. I watch them every year and appreciate everything I learn from them. I am hoping you can provide a bit of additional information on comparing the Rustler 9 and the Nordica unleashed 98. My main question is which of these would be a "stronger" ski? My last piste ski was a Kastle mx88, and although I loved the precise power, the ski certainly lacked a lot of freeride fun. I live in British Columbia and at 6'2 and 230 pounds, with a background in ski racing my Nordica Enforcer 115 free is my daily driver. Looking for something to have a lot of fun on during the average days, that still has the ability to turn it on and charge through the chunder under a big mans feet!
I'm about the same size as you and I'd go with the Unleashed. I love the longer camber of the ski, and if you're using a 115 for a lot of the time, the energy of the Unleashed will be a whole lot of fun for you. The Rustler feels a bit more rockered, and is a fantastic ski, but we all had very positive experiences on the Nordica. The Rustler may be a bit heavier at the same length, but it's very close overall in terms of strength.
**************** Love your videos. I'm an older agressive Colorado skier. I'm on Bramha88s and love them. My second ski is a StormRider. My fat old man ski. LOL I'm wondering if the next step up to true all around would be the Rustler 9 or the Bonified 94. This is my only media to check ski quality. Thanks
Hey Donald! Thanks! Rustler 9, or even Rustler 10, would be phenomenal additions to your quiver. Bonafide is pretty stiff, and likely too close to your Stormriders and Brahmas to make sense. Rustlers will give you more versatility and better soft snow performance, which certainly can come in handy out there in Colorado.
Great Job as always. I'm 5'9" 250 currently ski the stormrider 95. Great ski but can be demanding at times. i'm looking to add a a ski that would be "more playful or less demanding" for use in the bumps, trees, and groomers. Any thoughts?
Blizzard Rustler 9 feels like a nice option. Still strong enough to support your weight, but more tail rocker than your SR 95, so definitely easier in bumps, trees, etc. Elan Ripstick 96 Black Edition would be a good one too. I'm not sure the non-Black-Edition would be supportive enough, however. I also think Maverick 95 is an interesting option. It's more playful and less demanding due to the fact it's lighter. 3 good options there, hope that helps!
Hey guys just discovered your channel and absolutely love it! Great content! I’m looking to buy my first pair of skis and think something in this category would be best suited to me, what would you recommend? I’m 175cm, 74kg, 24 year old from London who’s been skiing 16 weeks before and have mostly skied in French alps, specifically Val D’isere. I would say I’m in advanced/intermediate skier - I can ski down anything on piste with good technique and control. I can ski off piste too, but not explored skiing off piste too much yet. I’m trying to learn to do 180-360 on jumps and off bumps on the side of the piste. I would say I typically enjoy the most, carving down reds and going through tree runs and the side of pistes bumps and jumps, but always like challenging myself in off piste and moguls and trying and improve my technique also. As someone who’s not owned or ever done research on skis before I’m not sure where I should go for my ‘one ski fits all’. I feel like I’m between the Fischer and enforcer in this video. I’m someone who spends more time on piste and enjoys carving the most out of all types of skiing, but does like a bit of everything. I like the idea of twin tips for doing backward skiing too haha. What do you guys think? Do you feel the mid 90’s is right for me or should I look elsewhere? Thanks again for really informative videos. I’ve learnt a lot, but also realised finding the ski for me is harder than I thought😂 I’m hoping I can demo the ski you recommend when I ski in whistler this year before I buy :)
So if you're a middle aged ex racer Bob's size and skiing out west a mix of soft snow (or perhaps several inches of fresh) groomers and trees (70/30), Liberty Evolv 100 or stance 96? Seems like the stance has more appropriate rocker for trees, but evolv is lighter and perhaps softer tips while also pulling you in to the turn better with that lack of rocker. I guess I would also throw enforcer 94/100 in there too.
Tough choice! You're definitely on the right track... I might lean towards the Stance because of that rocker profile. I (Jeff) skied the Stance 90 a lot at Alta and just couldn't get over how good it was in off-piste terrain and conditions. If you wanted lighter and more responsive, however, Evolv could work too. I think I just like the shape of the Stance more personally. Enforcers don't feel quite as surfy as the Stance. Maybe neither feels particularly surfy, but it's definitely easier to release the tail edge on a Stance. So, deciding between those two would be mostly whether you'd be willing to sacrifice some off-piste maneuverability and forgiveness (Stance) for on trail precision (Enforcer). Hope that helps!!
@@SkiEssentials Thanks Jeff! It does help. I was literally watching the video you made in 2022 at the bench talking about the stance 96 when you posted your reply. I have a problem... :) And the only cure is more skis!
I love the reviews, and this is another Great review. I've going over your review of Mid-90 skis. I'm looking to add to my quiver. I've got an 88 Enforcer but I'm looking for a more playful mid-90, not for park, just playful, slipping turns, "swarvy" playful / fun ski. I don't ski super fast. I'm also looking at the K2 96C, but I'm 6' 240lbs. Am I too big for that ski? If not, I'm also looking at the Ripstick Black, Rustler 9, Optic 96, Oblivion 94, ARV94 or Unleashed 98. I want a playful, easy turning, side sliding, "slarvy" not carvy that turns super easy, and I can be lazy on? Can you please give a bigger skier some guidance - What do you recommend?
Thanks! I'd say you're on the big side. I'm 6/2 225 and felt like I could bend it pretty darn easily. In that 96 range, the Black Edition is one of my favorites, and the Unleashed is another amazing ski for what you're looking to do. I'd stay a bit further away from the non-metallic twins like the Oblivion and ARV, but the Rustler and Optic are still in play. For more all-mountain performance without going too rugged, the Elan makes a lot of sense while the Unleashed is just so well-rounded and damp.
Question. I was on the verge of buying a pair of Volkl Mantra m6 when I saw this review of the Elan RipStick 94 Black. The 94 looks impressive and your comments were obviously very complimentary. My Dynastar Cham 97’s (172 cm) are getting a little long in the tooth and even though I LOVE them, they are a bit heavy and stiff and I ain’t getting any younger 😢. But man are they stable at speed ! I like to go fast! and I hate a ski that chatters like their going to shatter any minute once you get moving fast. How truly stable are the 94 Black’s? At 40 mph - 50 mph are they going to chatter and get a bit squirrelly ? Thanks! Love your channel!
For a ski with carbon instead of metal, the 96 Black Edition is very stable. That said, it still doesn't quite compare to some of the heavier hitters on this wall, including the Enforcer 94 and Mantra M6. But if you want something that's a bit lighter with a high-performance ceiling, you could do a lot worse than the Ripstick. If speed is something that's a big priority for you, there's no substitute for metal when it comes to stability and dampness.
l Love your vids guys keep up the great work, Looking for a ski for my size, 6ft tall 100kg advanced skier, love short turns, carving, small bumps and high speed mainly on piste but if have some fresh a little off... anything you can recommend ?
Definitely need something with a ton of versatility, but also some strength to support your size. Origin 96, Camox, Blade Optic 96, Rustler 9, all great skis with a mix of performance. If you want to go for a stronger on-piste ski, the latter half of this comparison might be better... Stance 96, Sender 94, Enforcer 94, Mantra... all of those skis gain some on-piste performance, but so sacrifice a bit of playfulness and soft snow capabilities.
Great review of this range of skis. The Blizzard Bonfide was omitted from the list and still remains on the far right side of the spectrum with the M6. I switched from there previous Mantra to it in 2015 and haven’t looked back. The M6 has finally caught up to the Bonfide in it’s desire to edge you toward more precision with little nudges of feedback. And a very strong ski, perhaps slightly more demanding, but I’m more on Bob’s side of the body size at 6’6” and 230 in the winter and can really bend it, especially now living in Germany and skiing mostly in Austria, where we don’t get a lot of powder, unlike my CO days. So the stiffness of the Bonafide is great here with similar snow to Vermont. Why did it get left off the list?
Basically just because the wall limits us to the amount of skis we can include, and we felt like most skiers are well versed in the Bonafide and its performance at this point. It's still a tremendous ski, and I agree, still sits on the far right side of the spectrum. Just a space thing, nothing more than that.
I love the way Bob gently flexes the Dancer and says it's stiff, and then Jeff puts his full bodyweight on the Serpo, bends it less, and is barely able to grunt that it's not too stiff. I think you guys need to make Bob the designated ski flexer. Maybe Jeff can stick to flexing the tips.
Im always wondering who can acces the full potential of an enforcer on a loose and chopy day.I get that some people are really better skier than i am,but steel those kind of plank i just dont get... But to each is own ! Great job as usual guys!
It's a rare combination of race-background, aggressive skiing, and very strong feet. The skis are about as sturdy as they get. Thanks for the feedback! SE
If I had to pare my quiver down to one set of skis it would be my Enforcer 94s. I find they shine the most in chopped up snow, as long as your legs can keep up they will track straight through just about anything. For reference I'm a 6'2", 200lb competitive cyclist and my wife is a former racer who has cajoled me into skiing like she does
Great reviews! For a 6ft mid 170 lb upper intermediate, how would you compare the volkl blaze, elan ripstick and blizzard hustle for a mix of groomers and ease to ski soft snow, without nosediving or catching? Do you think the marker f12 tour would be appropriate on all?
All good options. Blaze feels the best in soft snow to me, largely thanks to the long rocker profile and long turn radius. Ripsticks are the best on groomers, while still being a lot of fun in soft snow too. Hustle kind of falls right in between. It's not as floaty or as surfy as the Blaze, not as responsive on a groomer as the Ripsticks, but a very fun, well-rounded option. F12 Tour could work on all 3, yes. It's somewhat of an outdated binding at this point and will create a little bit of a dead spot with the frame system, but it's a very affordable option that boasts a lot of value. Hope that helps!
@@SkiEssentials Thanks a heap for the reply! For a hybrid resort / touring capable setup, what bindings would you suggest I look into (given the f12 might not be optimal)?
Maverick 95 ti. Could you put a touring binding on it. Would you. I have the bent chetler 120 2019 with a Frisch tetron 12 binding. Would they be a good match. Trying to keeping everything light. Have squirrel killers to remove and fit bindings on other skis. Save having two bindings. Keeping weight down when flying.
Definitely something you can do! About 1800 g per ski in the 180 cm length, so not the lightest ski in the world, but certainly light enough to justify a touring binding. You'll get a nice strong, versatile ski for the descents too.
I'm an east coast skier in NY and Vermont. I loved this video as I'm looking into wider skies to use as my daily drivers. I'm 5.7 at 199lbs and really trying to find the best all mountain ski. groomers, tree's, moguls ect. I have the Ikon pass and will be in Utah and Wyoming this year. I was considering the Elan ripstick 96 Black, Kastle FX 96 as the two skies I thought you were most excited about. Please advise and Thanks for the awesome clip!
Two great choices! Very similar in that they use lighter material in the shovels in order to make the ski engage easily, while keeping the bulk of the ski strong and stable for high-end and precision carving performance. For more soft snow performance and agility, I'd lean to the Ripstick, but for higher-power levels and higher-speed skiing, the Kastle is a very strong performer. If I had to choose one, I think I'd go with the Elan because it's just so darn versatile.
@@michaelderks5999 For the Black Edition, the Pivot 15 Raw looks better than anything out there on the planet. Other than that, I'm a fan of the Salomon/Atomic/Armada STH bindings as well.
I am in the midst of researching my next skis and was wondering your thoughts on a direct comparison between the Head kore 93's and the Black Crow serpo. The pair I have now are the Kore's but I am leaning towards the serpo currently. Can you please help me, also your videos have helped a lot, thanks.
Hi Oliver! Definitely similar skis in what they accomplish, but they feel different. The Serpo is a bit heavier, but also has better vibration damping and a much smoother overall feel. It doesn't feel as quick, especially noticeable in bumps, trees, etc, but IMO, it's a better firm snow ski for most skiers, and still quite fun off trail too. The Kore 93 is so stiff, energetic, and reactive, which can be great, but sometimes unforgiving too, as you may know.
Ripstick Black vs. Mantra for a frontside/hard pack Whistler ski? Like to go fast on groomers, but also need something to handle tight spots easily. 5’8” 170lbs. Been on an older Mantra for years.
ripstick fits that description, im 6'0" 200lbs on ripstick 88s and they fit my same use case. scary as all hell on ice though. Mantra is more like my enforcers, hard to handle but great on ice. I guess its a trade off. If you dont have to deal with ice I say ripstick
If you like the feel of the Mantra, then the M6 will continue that forward. If you're looking for something a bit more manageable and versatile, I'd go Ripstick.
Awesome video as always guys, thank you. I know it's 100mm, but would be curious to find out where you'd put the Black Crow Justis on this wall?? Thanks!
Hi guys! Big fan of your content. I was hoping you could explain why you went w Enforcer 94 over the Unleashed 98? Your review of the Unleashed (10 mos ago) seemed to intimate that the Unleashed was the ski you didn’t realize you had been hoping Nordica would make -unless I misunderstood your comments!
Both are winners, and I know that's the easy statement, but it's pretty darn true. The skis certainly do different things, though. I was actually on the 94 the other day, skied it in a 179 (I'm normally a 186) and totally loved it. Sometimes just changing up the sizing adds a new dimension to a ski that you didn't know was there. On that day, in those conditions, I don't think I'd have chosen the Unleashed 98 over the Enforcer 94, but given a longer period of time, I may feel differently.
@@SkiEssentials Cheers for responding! Yeah, I get what you’re saying to some extent that both skis have their merits. I suppose I was just hoping to coax a “this is better than that” statement (since I don’t have the luxury of switching up my skis too much 😉).
Outstanding and informative content as always, thanks a lot😊 looking for a playfull all mountain ski to throw a hybrid pin binding on, kind of a one for all ski no matter where im going (resort, side piste off piste/backcountry) advanced/expert. what could you recommend in that regard? all the best
Backland 100 would be cool if you want to keep it on the lighter side of the spectrum. A handful of people on our staff use the Enforcer 104 Unlimited for basically the same application and really like it, so certainly a good option if you're willing to go a little wider. Blaze 94/106 are great for that too. Hustle 10... Those would all be on my short list for a "do everything" ski. Then you could also consider something like the normal Ripstick 96 (non Black Edition, non Tour). That ski is still relatively lightweight. Hope that helps narrow things down a little bit!
Great reviews! Picked up a mantra this spring at the end of the season as my first real ski purchase and can't wait to try it out... was a little worried to see it at the end of the wall but glad to hear it's still pretty accessible (I'm an advanced skier but not a former racer or something like you mentioned). Do you think it will still hold up well in bumps and trees? Feeling a bit of buyer's remorse hearing you talk about the ripstick black nailing the playful/charging balance but I'm past my return window so guess I'm locked in!
It's all relative. Just because the Mantra is the most business-like of the group doesn't mean it won't work well overall in bumps and trees. It just takes more work and finesse than others to get the same type of performance in those zones. On the other hand, the Ripstick Black, no matter the skier, will not be able to achieve the same levels of on-trail performance of the Mantra.
Another amazing yearly roundup, been looking forwards to this years. I've been skiing my Kendo 88 for the past 2 years. I love it, but skiing it for more than a day or back country/trees it's demanding. I'm looking for something more forgiving, but can deal with back bowl like conditions and tree's. I'm leaning to Liberty Origin or Elan Ripstick. Would you have any other recommendations or just something on Jeff's side rather than Bob's haha.
Thanks! If you're more of a directional skier, I'd lean to the Elan over the Liberty. The skis work much better on trail, and aren't too shabby in the bumps or trees either. Black Crows Camox is another great ski for sure. SE
Hey guys, love your videos. I am struggling to make decision. I skid the Volkl deacon 80 and absolutely loved the way it carved on the piste. I’m looking for the same feeling in the carved turns, but with slightly more soft snow or ‘off piste’ performance. I think I’m set on a Volkl. Would the M6 Mantra offer the same incredible edge feeling? Is it more difficult to get edge to edge? My ability is advanced, primarily I love ripping down groomed runs (80% of the time)on an edge but also like to dabble in the softer stuff when the group decides to and the snow conditions allow. Thanks
I think the move to the mid-90's makes sense. The Mantra isn't a great "dabbler" so much as it loves to charge on firmer snow. I'd take a look at the Blaze 94 for a lighter version and a more capable dabbler. I think it has very impressive grip and stability for the weight, but still nowhere near that of the Mantra, which is in a class of its own. It is pretty demanding, so take that into account.
Guys, I am still on a Vokyl RTM 84 because they are the best thing I have ever skied. I am 69 but ski quick, most on groomers with lots of fast turns. Time to buy my next pair. I am intrigued with Stockli’s or Vokyls again. What do I look at??
Dude get the Blaze 94s or the Mantra. The Blaze is lighter and better in light snow and turns well when your in tight surroundings/slower. The Mantra is for aggressive faster skiing on less powdery conditions. But there is lots of overlap there.
If you're still in the mood for the RTM style of ski, look no further than the Deacon 84 or the slightly lighter Deacon V.Werks. The Stockli Montero AR and Rossignol Experience 82 Ti are also great groomer skis with tons of performance, quality , and precision.
Hi, I am trying to decide on a ski purchase this week...here are the contenders..Elan Wingman 86 CTI Fusion X, Volkl Deacon 84, Volkdo Kendo 88 and Elan Ripstick 88. I live in Pittsburgh but will have more skiing days in Colorado this year in January and March..total days out west 11..vs probably 5 at home. I am in mid 60's and have been skiing for 58 years...not as aggressive as in the past...mainly groomed slopes (east) and hopefully more powder west... real thoughts on what I should by...5'8 and 200lbs. Thanks
I think the Ripstick 88 makes the most sense, especially if you're mainly in CO and are less aggressive than you've been. They carve really well with a strong edge grip, and while it's no Kendo in terms of stability at speed, it's pretty darn good. I think this makes more sense than the more front-side oriented skis on your list. I'd go with the Ripstick 88 in the 172, unless that sounds a bit long.
Awesome stuff, guys. Really love the effort and dedication you put in these videos. I am looking at the Mirrus Cor or Line Blade - they seem to fit in the same / own unique category. I currently see the Mirrus Cor as a bit more playful and the Blade maybe with a bit more range due to better float. If you would directly compare them, what would be your choice?
For me, as a larger skier, it comes down more to stability in a turn, and I found the Blade to have a better response in that department. The Blade is actually quite playful, as the ski needs a fair amount of torsional flexibility in order to adhere to the tight radius. The fun side effect is that the tail is pretty loose and fun when the edge angles are lower. Likely more freestyle performance with the Mirus Cor, but pretty close. I'd still take the Blade.
Great video as always! You guys seemed a little more keen on the Serpo in last years review. Anything change in the construction? Seems like just graphics. I've been skiing on Enforcers for a while - first the 93, then the 88, and I was considering going to the 94 this year. However, I might look to just add something altogether different in the mid 90's segment and keep the 88. The Serpo and that snap 😀 you guys keep talking about is drawing my attention. Seems like it would be something different and a good addition to my quiver. Thoughts?
Just graphics on the Serpo. It seems to want to finish one turn and enter the next a whole lot faster than the Enforcers do. It's also got more of an all-mountain feel than the Enforcer 88, which I love, but also find to be a bit of a handful in the bumps and trees. Have fun! SE
Hi! I'm quite an advanced skier and I'm looking for some new skis. I used my dads FX84 from 2015 and loved their performance on piste and would like to have something a bit wider that still performs really well on piste. Leaning towards either the FX96 TI or the Stöckli Stormrider 95. How do those compare in your opinion? Thanks!!! :)
The Kastle has a bit more power and grip to it than the Stockli. The Stockli is quieter and smoother, but doesn't quite have the same stout feel that the Kastle has. I'm impressed with the FX 96's hard snow performance for sure, and while the Stormrider may be slightly lighter and more maneuverable, it's not quite as rugged as the Kastle.
I love skiing trees and want a good pop in my ski. Realistically i mostly ski groomers and park with some ice in their (midwest skier). Was looking at these skis -black crow camox -black crow captis -mirus cors -bent 90 -faction prodigy 1s - and these what do you think would be best for me?
Sounds like Mirus Cor skier to me! They have a very unique blend of pop, woods, park, and groomers, and are surprisingly good on ice. I'd take a square look at those skis for your application!
I can't decide what to buy, i am intermediate skier, i am 183 cm and 85 kg i want to improve my carving skills on groomers and also to try to explore ungroomed snow. I am trying to decide between elan ripstick 96 and head core 93. And also I don't know what is the correct ski length for me . I am confused what to buy
The Ripstick is a safe bet while the Kore can be a reach for an intermediate skier. It handles groomed snow as well as off-trail situations quite well. The Kore can do it too, but can feel stiff for skiers who don't necessarily enjoy that aspect of a ski. I'd go 172 in the Ripstick 96.
Hey guys, I’m looking for a new ski in the 90s. I really enjoyed skiing the declivity 102. The combo of stability at speed (point em down the fall line and go), surfiness at slow speeds, and carving prowess (love feeling the kick/edge grip out of the tail when tipped over)really ticked all the boxes for me. The only thing I didn’t like was the cumbersome width. The obvious answer might be the declivity 92, but I’ve skied the 82 and found it a bit lacking at speed. So I’m not sure if the 92 is the right call or not. So, is there anything out there, including skis outside of the declivity line, that would give me all the declivity 102 stability and characteristics (though I wouldn’t mind it to be a touch more on the carving side of the spectrum, or a touch more energy) in a 90s width? Thanks
It also depends if you're looking for something similar or different. My first thought goes to the Serpo, as it has a lot of the same feels and qualities of the Armada--I'd definitely have that one on the list. Enforcer 94 takes it to the next level, and does fall a bit more on the carving side. It's like the Serpo and Declivity, just to another degree of ruggedness. I think between those, you'll find a whole lot to like, and I don't think it's silly to have the Declivity 92 on that list either.
Hi guys, if you were to choose only one ski that could suit all conditions from icy to powdery slopes, which one would that be? Like when you wake up in the morning, it shouldn't matter if it's sunny or if it snows, just grab that one pair of skis that will make you smile all day long on the slopes...
This year, I picked up a Head Kore 93 for that use. It basically lives in the car. Jeff has a Nordica Unleashed 98 for that purpose. I'd be happy skiing pretty much anything on this wall in an every day format, but I love the combination of carving power and light weight maneuverability from the Kore. Jeff loves park, so he needs a ski that can perform on and off piste as well as jumps and rails.
Great review gents! I really like the look of the ripstick black edition. Just wondering in regards to sizing, I'm 6'1, 210 pounds. Like to ski quite hard accross the whole mountain and generally like my skis slightly on the shorter side. What do you guys think would be the better option for me with the size 180 or 188? Which do you prefer Bob? Keep up the good work, Cheers!
I'm 6/2 225 and I like the 188 all day. I did not find the 180's to be "bad" in the least, so if you prefer shorter skis and are a bit smaller than me, I'd say 180 will be the way to go. Have fun! SE/Bob
Skiessentials, which ski in entire 90-100 bracket is the best carver whilst still being fun in deeper snow? You also mention the Ripstick Black as the best carvers in the lineup - but you also say that the Stance 96 are like skiing on rails. Which are better all round? Advanced to expert level.
If I were only skiing on-trail, I'd take the Stance, but if soft snow was mixed in, I think the Ripstick is a more versatile ski. It's not quite as aggressive as the Stance, so it also kind of depends on how hard you're pushing it. At the end of the day, the Elan still does not have metal, and also has vapor tips, so it's just not as strong from tip to tail as the Stance. For its weight and what else it does, the Ripstick is one of the coolest skis out there, just not quite as powerful as Stance.
So if Blizzard made something waist sized between a Brahma and Bonifide with same construction,, that would probably be your last ski on the wall again too 😉 Always the same top 3, but boy they are all good in different ways
Hey guys, I’m an intermediate skier looking for a fun and manageable ski that I can carve, mogul and hop in the trees with. I don’t need insane speed (just got off of Enforcer 94 in VT and it wasn’t for me) and have tried the Camox and liked it but agree it felt a bit slidey. Seems the Elan Ripstick black or Black Crows Serpo would fit my profile well. What’re your thoughts? Open to suggestions and appreciate your insights in these videos, really helpful all around. Thanks!
I think you're in a great zone with awesome choices so far--can't really go wrong from here. Both the Ripstick and Serpo offer more pop and zing than the Enforcer while being a bit sturdier than the Camox. Between those, the Serpo has more of a kick out of the tail, which I think you may like since you use the term "hop". I'd lean that way, but it's tough to argue against the Ripstick as well!
Thank you for the great videos! I consider myself an advanced skier. Looking for a versatile ski for quick and carves on groomed and moguls but would like to hit the trees and powder sometime.. What would you recommend? I have been thinking about mindbender 89 Ti but would like to hear your picks!
That's a great choice! I think the ~88's is a great place to be. Elan Ripstick 88 and Atomic Maverick 86C are two other great options worth checking out. Have fun! SE
Hello, please could you advice on what skis are best 50/50 all mountain skis of this group mid 90, we have Ranger 96, Rustler 9, Rossi Sender 94, Maverick 95, Ripstick 96 black? which one are still stable in speed on groomers but off piste they floating and are more agile and easier to move around trees and are less demanding on input from rider? As for other contenders skis in this category it would be : enforcer 94, stance 96, mantra m6 and bonafide 97. These are superb skis but they are very demanding and more front side orientated( like 70% piste, 30% off piste) Thank you for your time and advice
Serpo has considerably better grip and energy. I liked the Navis in softer snow, but felt like the tip and shovel were not nearly as responsive as the Serpo, while the tails were a bit more similar.
Hi. I am skiing in Austria & Switzerland and a advanced/expert (not a professional) skiier. I have to ski most the time on piste but go so much its possible off piste. I’m over 200 cm tall and about 115kg. Which ski would you recommend to me? (I like the right half of the skis on your wall).
I think the Serpo is such a complete ski when it comes to on-piste performance and off-piste versatility. It's sharp as well as playful. 186 would likely be a good choice for your stats and application.
I don't even need more skis and I still watch this. 😄
Everyone needs more skis!
Same
I don't need more, but I want more.
Same
Dumb comment, that’s impossible
Never clicked on something so fast. Been waiting for this one for a while
Ha! Hope you liked it!
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What amazes me is that you don't tire. You give the same high level of assessment to the Mantra as you do to the Origin. Fabulous job! Thanks
We must hide it pretty well, then. It's more in the knees and back rather than a lack of things to talk about! Thanks for the compliments!
Definitely best way you guys have organized the skis so far! Love it!
Thanks, it is fun to be creative rather than alphabetical.
Did i watch it already? No. Did i like it already? Absolutely.
Love the way you put the skis in order of how you think they ski. That helps so much, especially for those of us that have skied a couple on the wall but wouldn’t otherwise know where they sit. That was the most valuable part of this review.
Thanks! We love playing around with order and lists!
Ah perfect, I've been waiting for this one! Cheers for all the hard work you guys do for us skiers every year!
We'll keep it up!
Best best best ski comparison videos on the youtoobs. Appreciate you guys!
I like that you guys throw in your personal preferences. Different skiers, sizes and styles. You acknowledge different types of skis and don't expect them all to be the same to all skiers. Too many reviews rank skis best to worse but depending on the skier, that ranking could be flipped. Too many don't give credit for a ski being great at what it does or designed to do. Often, the higher ranked skis need to be skied fast to get the performance out of them. I've slowed down. I'm more interested in a playful ski I can easily throw around and don't have to drive hard to perform. Love all the skis being lined up and getting comparisons. Very informative!
Thanks so much for the great feedback! Glad you noticed what we're up to around here!
Love how you guys organized the presentation! I’m sharing this with my husband who is searching for his perfect ski to grow with.
Awesome! Thank you!
I was waiting for this video so impatiently. thanks guys
Great review this format where you put the more forgiving skis on left and go to more demanding ones as you go to the right makes a lot of sense.
Great videos! I feel like I understand ski construction and performance much better now. My only trouble is trying to figure out from the couch what type of ski I'd enjoy. I'm a lifetime hobby skier, downhill in my youth, then XC and tele, now in my late 40s I'm returning to the resorts in Oregon with my middle school aged kids and want to try locking my heel down again. I'm not a hard charging skier, but would like to get better at carving yet think I'd still like a bit of playfulness in my ski. I'm looking at the camox, ripstick 96 and ranger 96. I will probably mount with a downhill binding, but if I got something light like the ripstick, I suppose I could mount a fritschi tecton and have a single ski for resort and the occasional backcountry lap. Thoughts? Any of the 3 would probably be super fun.
I have become addicted to your videos. Great job guys, really -- most informative reviews ever. Thank you.
Glad you like them!
As always great job guys. Love this format. I could finally get a grasp on the how the tech, shape and weight fits with performance and placement on the wall.
Thanks Nick! So glad you found it useful and informative.
Hey thanks for the vid, I've gotten a pair of enforcers 94 and already have a few days through them. I think you've assessed them quite well. I'm a ex racer who likes everything from carving to trees, moguls, cliffs and big air (where are the true big ones ? Looks like they disapeared from ours stations)
For carving they like be at an high angle, they will allow you to charge right through! A bit stiff for moguls and trees for average skiers, you need to visualise your line if you want to push your speed, yet if you use them with a soft almost like your braking slowly with low angle turn they will suddenly be much easier to turn (almost like they want to turn). The stiffness also means they can be quite bouncy allowing for impressive pops when making successive jumps. This power is also usefull in narrow lined cliffs or when landing big jumps to allow you to be stable in this sudden acceleration.
Thanks for sharing your experience! Spot on description of the Enforcer 94.
I have 2 seasons on the Stance 96 and all I can say is that this is the ski for me. I have no issues applying speed when necessary and always in full control. They are responsive in the chutes, great in POW and most of the guys are behind me when we finish a run. I ski out of Kicking Horse Mtn Resort.
They are fantastic! Love at first turn for me.
Jealous - Kicking Horse is a great mountain.
I cannot say this enough: I love the longer format!
Thanks! We could probably go longer, too, that's the funny part.
@@SkiEssentials Point is, don't ever go shorter. Size matters you know...
@ Skiessentials: I honestly wish you did.
Nicely done guys! Reviewing and having video of the ski beeing skied with îs really nice and easier to follow!
Amazing videos! Best reference for ski tech, exhaustive and honest.
Keep the passion alive!
Thanks! We'll keep going!
SE
This is such a great video! Super helpful, thanks guys!
Our pleasure!
"Equating money to performance is a dangerous slope..."😂😂
You guys are just amazing. By far the best review ever. Thanks a lot!
Thanks! I think the money thing works the other way with stuff like bikes, but not skis!
I understand the no pole comment for the Blades.
This year i ditched the poles a few times and enjoyed the freedom.
I know, right? I feel like the Blade just calls for a lack of timing, boosting creativity.
Those golden bears are way too nice!
Good summary of these all mountain rippers. If I didn't already have eight pair of skis mounted and ready to ski, I might be interested in one of these. Having just put a Ripstick Tour 104/Marker Alpinist 12 setup together, I think I'd go for the Ripstick 96 Black for on-piste carving. I'm headed towards a pair of Ripstick Tour 88s for really lightweight assaults, though. Lift serviced skiing can be fun, but I just don't like skiing on snow that someone else has already skied on before. Plus, I'm on the mountain 5 nights a week as a Pisten Bully mechanic and it's nice to get away.
Ha! There's always room for one more!
Got to demo four of these last year and for the second year in a row the atomic maverick’s have been my stand out! Will probably buy a pair this year. Awesome reviews!
Good choice!
you guys have the best job in the world
Thanks, Chris!
It's nice to hear, as we try to keep that in perspective. It's never ALL glamor and glitz, but that's the hope for how it looks on film.
Absolutely the best in depth reviews of skis!
Thanks!
This is amazing content, the best I’ve found by far. I’m a Lake Tahoe area skier and heavy, wet snow is our dominant condition. Obviously very different from both hard Stowe/East Coast and soft, powdery Utah/CO and I’m not sure which kinds of skis work best in this type of snow. Is it better to go lighter/wider and “float” or go with heavier skies with more substantial tips to avoid getting deflected/bounced around too much? I’m a lightweight intermediate/advanced skier optimizing for playful and fun at moderate speeds. The QST/mFree/Ripsticks sound like my kind of skis but I’m worried whether they will be “pushed around” in heavy snow. Any thoughts are greatly appreciated.
I generally feel that if you're an aggressive or expert level skier, the heavier skis make more sense, but for most other skiers, the QST style ski will be more than enough to handle the deeper and mankier of snows. I feel QST is a good mid-weight ski while Ripstick feels a bit lighter.
Hey guys, I'm 6' and 200 Ib, I've been looking for an All Mountain ski for a while, and my list came down to Elan Ripstick 96 Black and Atomic Maverick 95ti, I'm a pretty good skier, ski mostly in Mammoth, I wear Dalbello Panterra 120 Boots, I spend most of the day carving but I want something to hold well in any condition.
I'd say the maverick has a better edge grip due to the metal, but the Elan is a better off-piste and versatile choice. I'd lean to the Ripstick just for an all-around performer, but that's not taking anything away from the Maverick at all. Have fun!
SE
Great review - organizing the skis by "slarvey to carvey" was great. I have a special request. I know you evaluated the Armada Declivity 92 TI in your 90mm category, but I was wondering how you would place the Declivity 92 TI compared to the other "mid 90" mm skis since I am considering some skis in the mid 90 mm category in addition to the Declivity . Any feedback you can provide would be great. Thanks!!
It's certainly one of those skis that blurs the line between 90 and mid-90, but we felt it fits a bit better in the 90 because it carves so darn well and doesn't/didn't quite share the same shaping principles as some other mid-90's skis like Rustler 9 or Line Blade Optic 92/96. The Declivity just feels a lot more planted on the snow.
Thank you for the response.
Guys great comparison as always. Ripstick 2022 96 Black Edition one of the best skis I have ever skied. Now looking for 108+ powder ski.
It's a fantastic ski. If you like that, check the Line Vision 108 or Dynastar M-Free 108 for playfulness, or the Armada Declivity 108 or Volkl Katana 108 for a beefier pow ski.
the best east coast do it all width.... I use to be more carvy, and now I'm more slarvy... wood feels good
I'm with you--I like the drifty nature of the woody skis, and now I'm leaning more to carbon than metal in my advancing years.
Hey, tele skier during the Armada on-slope footage! When will you guys get a tele expert in to do a review of skis from that perspective?
It's pretty difficult because the tele demo thing is pretty much non-existent. I have a solid decade of free-heel skiing under my belt and found that the skis are even more subjective than in an alpine format. My favorites were always the 98-mm twin tips like Dynastar Slicer, and the slightly wider Atomic Automatic 102. Personally, I leaned to the non-metallic skis and the more twin-tipped ones. I'd think on this wall, K2 Poacher, ARV 96 and BC Camox would be at the top of my list.
Torn between Line Blade, Sakana, Liberty Origin 96, and Black Crows Serpo. I'm a 178cm 85kg intermediate skier looking for my first pair of skis. I ski in both chopped on-piste runs/groomers and powder (depends on where I go) so I guess something all-mtn would be good.
I'd say the Serpo is your best bet. The other skis are great and a whole lot of fun, but they're not quite as well-rounded or versatile as the Serpo. If this is your first pair, and you're blending on-piste, soft snow, and crud, the Serpo will give you the most to work with.
Another great summary comparison guys. Thank you! I’m primarily an east coast skier (PA) trying to decide between this range and the 90 group. Where on this wall would the QST 92 have landed?
I'd say right about where the Camox is. A great place to be!
Waiting on that mid 80mm all mountain review!!!
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It's on the list! Might be the first week in October.
This is a great summary. With almost no ability to demo skis where I am I am struggling to figure out what will be my next ski. I am an expert, former ski instructor so technically very sound. I currently have my race inspired carvers if it want to go lay tracks on the the groomers but I find myself skiing my current all mountain skis more and more as I love the versatility of skiing them. They are a set of 2014 Line Prophet 90s. Looking to replace them with something maybe a tad wider and similar versatility, but with a bit more power to improve the carving and edge hold a bit (I live in the east with all our ice). If you ever skied the Line prophets for my reference where would you slot those on this wall? I trying to gauge where on this wall I should be looking, Elan Black edition, or enforcer territory. Really appreciate your help.
I've gotten a pair of enforcers 94 and they shred those turns ! They have so much power at the end of the turn and are so rigid you can truly charge with them, even in the trees and the moguls if your good enough. Also great on big jumps in the park or cliffs, just a bit heavy for acrobatics but hey I dont think you care!
But here is the catch : the radius is like 17 meters on my 179 cm... And I think its a bit too large a turn, giving the stiffness, to be able to be in the bumps or trees and taking it easy making sloppy turns ! No those are not gonna be fun and they are gonna drive you around (thats what he meant when he said he was feeling all the technical mistakes in all his body, its no joke!) They are simply too powerful to be playfull while chilling. Their playfullness shines when you know what / where / when and with how your gonna do it ! (Ski with purpose) and only in that are they fun. I mean mobilise that powerful rebound to pop that small jump into a far away landing or just plow right through ruined groomers late in the day. Also know that if you make a really low angle almost skidding turn the skis really want to turn, so yes you can manage a lot of terrain... with the required amount of precision !
Their moto is Ride hard or go home ! Wich is fine by me huey huey huey 😂
Mid-90's is a great place to be. Enforcer 94 and Stormrider 95 make a whole lot of sense for both carving and off-piste performance. Black Edition is great, and is very versatile, but not quite as carvy as some others.
This ordering of the skis is insightful. Keep it up.
Enforcer are awesome on groomers, hard pack and crud, however I agree with Jeff's comments that Enforcers can be a handful in tight trees and moguls. Context: 5'6" 160lbs on 172 E94, used to be an advanced/expert skier but now over 60 . .
Found a good deal on Ripstick 96 so pulled trigger without demo to help in trees and bumps . Happy to see they are at opposite ends of the spectrum from Enforcers
Thanks for sharing!
In between the ripstick black and the black crows serpo- any thoughts?
Lots of love for both of those skis. The metal in the Serpo gives it a bit more snappy of a feel, and while the carbon tubes do a lot of the same for the Ripstick, I've just found the Serpo to be more reactive and energetic. If you're on trail more often than not, I'd lean to Serpo, but for off-trail and all-around versatility, it doesn't get more well-rounded than the Elan.
I just want to ski them all.... 🙂 ... thanks for the video! .... always looking forward to your videos... best ones out there... thanks again....Loved the format you used on this one... mid 80's please do the same.... thanks again!
It's a great group. We'll likely get to the mid-80's over the next two weeks, but not this week.
Your personal opinions and preferences on the Camox - awesome
We liked that one too!
I ski a wide variety of skis - everything from Ripstick 96 on the flimsy side to Bonafides and Enforcers 88s on the other end, but Line Blades are almost always given consideration for the ski of the day. If you aren’t having fun on Blades you’re doing it wrong.
Agree 100%!
Yes!!!!! Grabbing some snacks😂
Season Kin would be great in this comparison.
Those skis have certainly caught our attention recently, as the shorter-turning group of skis in the market these days is a whole lot of fun.
Love the video! I find myself watching all your comparison videos even for ski types I have no interest in! Any advice on length for the Sender 94 Ti? I'm 5' 6", 180, and a fairly aggressive Western skier. I love the bumps most but, at 57 years old, don't have the strength to ski them all day like I used to. I'm looking at the Sender 94 Ti as my one-ski and torn between the 164 and 172. I demo a lot of skis and typically ski between 162 and 175 depending on the ski. I've read the Sender skis a bit short due to the mount point so I'm leaning towards the 172.
Ha! Thanks for watching!
It's a great ski and I don't think it skis that short. I'd go with the 164 in that ski if you're caught in the middle. Have fun!
SE
Thanks guys ,good job my top 3 to demos here in Colorado above average skier and mostly front and some trees and bumps are Montra ar, ripstick black, mantra. Coming off 3 year old 93 enforcers and was hoping you could rank the skies I'm looking at. Or maybe add something else to look at....Thanks for all you do!!!
Hi Dan!
If you're looking for frontside first, followed by trees and bumps, I'd go Ripstick Black first for overall versatility, Mantra second for great carving with some width, and then AR third, mainly because it's more one-dimensional than the other two, even though it's an amazing ski in its own right. I feel the mid-90's is a great place to be for one ski in Colorado.
Funny, after researching skis, I narrowed it down to the Ripstick 96, Ranger 96 and Rustler 9 (ironically all start with "R"), with the outliers of Enforcer and Maverick. And you have the three "R's" all in a row. I guess I know what I am interested in based on this video. haha. I appreciate all the info you guys put out - both video and written. If I need any more guidance, is there a way to reach someone for more detail on a comparison and my needs?
Really radical that you revere our reviews!
Thank you so much for the excellent reviews. I watch them every year and appreciate everything I learn from them. I am hoping you can provide a bit of additional information on comparing the Rustler 9 and the Nordica unleashed 98. My main question is which of these would be a "stronger" ski? My last piste ski was a Kastle mx88, and although I loved the precise power, the ski certainly lacked a lot of freeride fun. I live in British Columbia and at 6'2 and 230 pounds, with a background in ski racing my Nordica Enforcer 115 free is my daily driver. Looking for something to have a lot of fun on during the average days, that still has the ability to turn it on and charge through the chunder under a big mans feet!
I'm about the same size as you and I'd go with the Unleashed. I love the longer camber of the ski, and if you're using a 115 for a lot of the time, the energy of the Unleashed will be a whole lot of fun for you. The Rustler feels a bit more rockered, and is a fantastic ski, but we all had very positive experiences on the Nordica. The Rustler may be a bit heavier at the same length, but it's very close overall in terms of strength.
@@SkiEssentials thank you! I have taken this review to heart, and also passed it along to a friend!
**************** Love your videos. I'm an older agressive Colorado skier. I'm on Bramha88s and love them. My second ski is a StormRider. My fat old man ski. LOL I'm wondering if the next step up to true all around would be the Rustler 9 or the Bonified 94. This is my only media to check ski quality. Thanks
Hey Donald! Thanks! Rustler 9, or even Rustler 10, would be phenomenal additions to your quiver. Bonafide is pretty stiff, and likely too close to your Stormriders and Brahmas to make sense. Rustlers will give you more versatility and better soft snow performance, which certainly can come in handy out there in Colorado.
Great Job as always. I'm 5'9" 250 currently ski the stormrider 95. Great ski but can be demanding at times. i'm looking to add a a ski that would be "more playful or less demanding" for use in the bumps, trees, and groomers. Any thoughts?
Blizzard Rustler 9 feels like a nice option. Still strong enough to support your weight, but more tail rocker than your SR 95, so definitely easier in bumps, trees, etc. Elan Ripstick 96 Black Edition would be a good one too. I'm not sure the non-Black-Edition would be supportive enough, however. I also think Maverick 95 is an interesting option. It's more playful and less demanding due to the fact it's lighter. 3 good options there, hope that helps!
I want some Rossi Roc 550's !!!
Hey guys just discovered your channel and absolutely love it! Great content!
I’m looking to buy my first pair of skis and think something in this category would be best suited to me, what would you recommend?
I’m 175cm, 74kg, 24 year old from London who’s been skiing 16 weeks before and have mostly skied in French alps, specifically Val D’isere. I would say I’m in advanced/intermediate skier - I can ski down anything on piste with good technique and control. I can ski off piste too, but not explored skiing off piste too much yet. I’m trying to learn to do 180-360 on jumps and off bumps on the side of the piste. I would say I typically enjoy the most, carving down reds and going through tree runs and the side of pistes bumps and jumps, but always like challenging myself in off piste and moguls and trying and improve my technique also.
As someone who’s not owned or ever done research on skis before I’m not sure where I should go for my ‘one ski fits all’. I feel like I’m between the Fischer and enforcer in this video. I’m someone who spends more time on piste and enjoys carving the most out of all types of skiing, but does like a bit of everything. I like the idea of twin tips for doing backward skiing too haha. What do you guys think? Do you feel the mid 90’s is right for me or should I look elsewhere?
Thanks again for really informative videos. I’ve learnt a lot, but also realised finding the ski for me is harder than I thought😂 I’m hoping I can demo the ski you recommend when I ski in whistler this year before I buy :)
So if you're a middle aged ex racer Bob's size and skiing out west a mix of soft snow (or perhaps several inches of fresh) groomers and trees (70/30), Liberty Evolv 100 or stance 96? Seems like the stance has more appropriate rocker for trees, but evolv is lighter and perhaps softer tips while also pulling you in to the turn better with that lack of rocker. I guess I would also throw enforcer 94/100 in there too.
Tough choice! You're definitely on the right track... I might lean towards the Stance because of that rocker profile. I (Jeff) skied the Stance 90 a lot at Alta and just couldn't get over how good it was in off-piste terrain and conditions. If you wanted lighter and more responsive, however, Evolv could work too. I think I just like the shape of the Stance more personally. Enforcers don't feel quite as surfy as the Stance. Maybe neither feels particularly surfy, but it's definitely easier to release the tail edge on a Stance. So, deciding between those two would be mostly whether you'd be willing to sacrifice some off-piste maneuverability and forgiveness (Stance) for on trail precision (Enforcer). Hope that helps!!
@@SkiEssentials Thanks Jeff! It does help. I was literally watching the video you made in 2022 at the bench talking about the stance 96 when you posted your reply. I have a problem... :) And the only cure is more skis!
I love the reviews, and this is another Great review. I've going over your review of Mid-90 skis. I'm looking to add to my quiver. I've got an 88 Enforcer but I'm looking for a more playful mid-90, not for park, just playful, slipping turns, "swarvy" playful / fun ski. I don't ski super fast. I'm also looking at the K2 96C, but I'm 6' 240lbs. Am I too big for that ski? If not, I'm also looking at the Ripstick Black, Rustler 9, Optic 96, Oblivion 94, ARV94 or Unleashed 98. I want a playful, easy turning, side sliding, "slarvy" not carvy that turns super easy, and I can be lazy on? Can you please give a bigger skier some guidance - What do you recommend?
Thanks!
I'd say you're on the big side. I'm 6/2 225 and felt like I could bend it pretty darn easily. In that 96 range, the Black Edition is one of my favorites, and the Unleashed is another amazing ski for what you're looking to do. I'd stay a bit further away from the non-metallic twins like the Oblivion and ARV, but the Rustler and Optic are still in play. For more all-mountain performance without going too rugged, the Elan makes a lot of sense while the Unleashed is just so well-rounded and damp.
Question. I was on the verge of buying a pair of Volkl Mantra m6 when I saw this review of the Elan RipStick 94 Black. The 94 looks impressive and your comments were obviously very complimentary. My Dynastar Cham 97’s (172 cm) are getting a little long in the tooth and even though I LOVE them, they are a bit heavy and stiff and I ain’t getting any younger 😢. But man are they stable at
speed ! I like to go fast! and I hate a ski that chatters like their going to shatter any minute once you get moving fast. How truly stable are the 94 Black’s? At 40 mph - 50 mph are they going to chatter and get a bit squirrelly ? Thanks! Love your channel!
For a ski with carbon instead of metal, the 96 Black Edition is very stable. That said, it still doesn't quite compare to some of the heavier hitters on this wall, including the Enforcer 94 and Mantra M6. But if you want something that's a bit lighter with a high-performance ceiling, you could do a lot worse than the Ripstick. If speed is something that's a big priority for you, there's no substitute for metal when it comes to stability and dampness.
l Love your vids guys keep up the great work, Looking for a ski for my size, 6ft tall 100kg advanced skier, love short turns, carving, small bumps and high speed mainly on piste but if have some fresh a little off... anything you can recommend ?
Definitely need something with a ton of versatility, but also some strength to support your size. Origin 96, Camox, Blade Optic 96, Rustler 9, all great skis with a mix of performance. If you want to go for a stronger on-piste ski, the latter half of this comparison might be better... Stance 96, Sender 94, Enforcer 94, Mantra... all of those skis gain some on-piste performance, but so sacrifice a bit of playfulness and soft snow capabilities.
@@SkiEssentials Thank you very much for your time.
Great review of this range of skis. The Blizzard Bonfide was omitted from the list and still remains on the far right side of the spectrum with the M6. I switched from there previous Mantra to it in 2015 and haven’t looked back.
The M6 has finally caught up to the Bonfide in it’s desire to edge you toward more precision with little nudges of feedback. And a very strong ski, perhaps slightly more demanding, but I’m more on Bob’s side of the body size at 6’6” and 230 in the winter and can really bend it, especially now living in Germany and skiing mostly in Austria, where we don’t get a lot of powder, unlike my CO days. So the stiffness of the Bonafide is great here with similar snow to Vermont.
Why did it get left off the list?
Basically just because the wall limits us to the amount of skis we can include, and we felt like most skiers are well versed in the Bonafide and its performance at this point. It's still a tremendous ski, and I agree, still sits on the far right side of the spectrum. Just a space thing, nothing more than that.
I love the way Bob gently flexes the Dancer and says it's stiff, and then Jeff puts his full bodyweight on the Serpo, bends it less, and is barely able to grunt that it's not too stiff. I think you guys need to make Bob the designated ski flexer. Maybe Jeff can stick to flexing the tips.
Yeah, but Jeff is likely more in line with the size of the average person while I'm on the bigger side. I also think he hams it up a bit when flexing.
More great stuff from the Jeff & Bob Show. Or the Bob & Jeff Show!
Thank you!! I wish I had seen this before I bought my ripsticks last year….
We're stoked on the Ripsticks, too!
SE
@@SkiEssentials i lové them too, I think, but I may have chosen differently if I’d seen this a year ago…. Keep up the great reviews, guys…..
When will the 110mm powered skis video be released? I’m dying with anticipation. 😂
I think we're a few weeks out from that, but it's definitely on the list and there's a lot of good skis in that category!
How would you compare the K2 Poacher and the black crows campox in terms of an all mountain carver.
Hey Luka! Camox has a little more strength and precision to it, IMO. Holds an edge slightly better and finishes a turn with more cleanliness.
Stormriders are difficult to beat. I still want the M6 tho. Perhaps because already own two pairs of SR95😊
Ha! The M6 is quite a bit more precise in the shovel and through the waist--still a comparable tail, I'd say.
Im always wondering who can acces the full potential of an enforcer on a loose and chopy day.I get that some people are really better skier than i am,but steel those kind of plank i just dont get... But to each is own ! Great job as usual guys!
It's a rare combination of race-background, aggressive skiing, and very strong feet. The skis are about as sturdy as they get. Thanks for the feedback!
SE
If I had to pare my quiver down to one set of skis it would be my Enforcer 94s. I find they shine the most in chopped up snow, as long as your legs can keep up they will track straight through just about anything. For reference I'm a 6'2", 200lb competitive cyclist and my wife is a former racer who has cajoled me into skiing like she does
Great reviews! For a 6ft mid 170 lb upper intermediate, how would you compare the volkl blaze, elan ripstick and blizzard hustle for a mix of groomers and ease to ski soft snow, without nosediving or catching? Do you think the marker f12 tour would be appropriate on all?
All good options. Blaze feels the best in soft snow to me, largely thanks to the long rocker profile and long turn radius. Ripsticks are the best on groomers, while still being a lot of fun in soft snow too. Hustle kind of falls right in between. It's not as floaty or as surfy as the Blaze, not as responsive on a groomer as the Ripsticks, but a very fun, well-rounded option. F12 Tour could work on all 3, yes. It's somewhat of an outdated binding at this point and will create a little bit of a dead spot with the frame system, but it's a very affordable option that boasts a lot of value. Hope that helps!
@@SkiEssentials Thanks a heap for the reply! For a hybrid resort / touring capable setup, what bindings would you suggest I look into (given the f12 might not be optimal)?
nice to see a pair of Faction skis in the mix 😊
They do a nice job!
Maverick 95 ti. Could you put a touring binding on it. Would you. I have the bent chetler 120 2019 with a Frisch tetron 12 binding. Would they be a good match. Trying to keeping everything light. Have squirrel killers to remove and fit bindings on other skis. Save having two bindings. Keeping weight down when flying.
Definitely something you can do! About 1800 g per ski in the 180 cm length, so not the lightest ski in the world, but certainly light enough to justify a touring binding. You'll get a nice strong, versatile ski for the descents too.
Why did you decided to not put the line chronic in this comparison?
Oversight? Lack of time and space? It certainly has a place there for sure, and I'd put it right between Oblivion and ARV I think. Great skis!
I'm an east coast skier in NY and Vermont. I loved this video as I'm looking into wider skies to use as my daily drivers. I'm 5.7 at 199lbs and really trying to find the best all mountain ski. groomers, tree's, moguls ect. I have the Ikon pass and will be in Utah and Wyoming this year. I was considering the Elan ripstick 96 Black, Kastle FX 96 as the two skies I thought you were most excited about. Please advise and Thanks for the awesome clip!
Two great choices!
Very similar in that they use lighter material in the shovels in order to make the ski engage easily, while keeping the bulk of the ski strong and stable for high-end and precision carving performance. For more soft snow performance and agility, I'd lean to the Ripstick, but for higher-power levels and higher-speed skiing, the Kastle is a very strong performer. If I had to choose one, I think I'd go with the Elan because it's just so darn versatile.
@@SkiEssentials Awesome advice and great review. any suggestions on a wicked binding for those Ripsticks?
@@michaelderks5999 For the Black Edition, the Pivot 15 Raw looks better than anything out there on the planet. Other than that, I'm a fan of the Salomon/Atomic/Armada STH bindings as well.
I am in the midst of researching my next skis and was wondering your thoughts on a direct comparison between the Head kore 93's and the Black Crow serpo. The pair I have now are the Kore's but I am leaning towards the serpo currently. Can you please help me, also your videos have helped a lot, thanks.
Hi Oliver! Definitely similar skis in what they accomplish, but they feel different. The Serpo is a bit heavier, but also has better vibration damping and a much smoother overall feel. It doesn't feel as quick, especially noticeable in bumps, trees, etc, but IMO, it's a better firm snow ski for most skiers, and still quite fun off trail too. The Kore 93 is so stiff, energetic, and reactive, which can be great, but sometimes unforgiving too, as you may know.
Ripstick Black vs. Mantra for a frontside/hard pack Whistler ski? Like to go fast on groomers, but also need something to handle tight spots easily. 5’8” 170lbs. Been on an older Mantra for years.
ripstick fits that description, im 6'0" 200lbs on ripstick 88s and they fit my same use case. scary as all hell on ice though. Mantra is more like my enforcers, hard to handle but great on ice. I guess its a trade off. If you dont have to deal with ice I say ripstick
If you like the feel of the Mantra, then the M6 will continue that forward. If you're looking for something a bit more manageable and versatile, I'd go Ripstick.
Awesome video as always guys, thank you. I know it's 100mm, but would be curious to find out where you'd put the Black Crow Justis on this wall?? Thanks!
I'd say somewhere around the Stance. It's stiffer than the Serpo, but more slarvy than Enforcer 94.
Hi guys! Big fan of your content. I was hoping you could explain why you went w Enforcer 94 over the Unleashed 98? Your review of the Unleashed (10 mos ago) seemed to intimate that the Unleashed was the ski you didn’t realize you had been hoping Nordica would make -unless I misunderstood your comments!
Both are winners, and I know that's the easy statement, but it's pretty darn true. The skis certainly do different things, though. I was actually on the 94 the other day, skied it in a 179 (I'm normally a 186) and totally loved it. Sometimes just changing up the sizing adds a new dimension to a ski that you didn't know was there. On that day, in those conditions, I don't think I'd have chosen the Unleashed 98 over the Enforcer 94, but given a longer period of time, I may feel differently.
@@SkiEssentials Cheers for responding! Yeah, I get what you’re saying to some extent that both skis have their merits. I suppose I was just hoping to coax a “this is better than that” statement (since I don’t have the luxury of switching up my skis too much 😉).
Outstanding and informative content as always, thanks a lot😊 looking for a playfull all mountain ski to throw a hybrid pin binding on, kind of a one for all ski no matter where im going (resort, side piste off piste/backcountry) advanced/expert. what could you recommend in that regard? all the best
Backland 100 would be cool if you want to keep it on the lighter side of the spectrum. A handful of people on our staff use the Enforcer 104 Unlimited for basically the same application and really like it, so certainly a good option if you're willing to go a little wider. Blaze 94/106 are great for that too. Hustle 10... Those would all be on my short list for a "do everything" ski. Then you could also consider something like the normal Ripstick 96 (non Black Edition, non Tour). That ski is still relatively lightweight.
Hope that helps narrow things down a little bit!
@@SkiEssentials thanks a lot for helping me out!
Great reviews! Picked up a mantra this spring at the end of the season as my first real ski purchase and can't wait to try it out... was a little worried to see it at the end of the wall but glad to hear it's still pretty accessible (I'm an advanced skier but not a former racer or something like you mentioned). Do you think it will still hold up well in bumps and trees? Feeling a bit of buyer's remorse hearing you talk about the ripstick black nailing the playful/charging balance but I'm past my return window so guess I'm locked in!
It's all relative. Just because the Mantra is the most business-like of the group doesn't mean it won't work well overall in bumps and trees. It just takes more work and finesse than others to get the same type of performance in those zones. On the other hand, the Ripstick Black, no matter the skier, will not be able to achieve the same levels of on-trail performance of the Mantra.
It's starting to feel like Christmas
Thanks for the video guys great presentation. Where would the K2 mindbenders 99ti come in the lot?
That ski made it to this wall: www.skiessentials.com/Chairlift-Chat/2023-ski-comparisons-mens-100-mm-all-mountain-ski-guide/
Another amazing yearly roundup, been looking forwards to this years. I've been skiing my Kendo 88 for the past 2 years. I love it, but skiing it for more than a day or back country/trees it's demanding. I'm looking for something more forgiving, but can deal with back bowl like conditions and tree's. I'm leaning to Liberty Origin or Elan Ripstick. Would you have any other recommendations or just something on Jeff's side rather than Bob's haha.
Thanks!
If you're more of a directional skier, I'd lean to the Elan over the Liberty. The skis work much better on trail, and aren't too shabby in the bumps or trees either. Black Crows Camox is another great ski for sure.
SE
Hey guys, love your videos. I am struggling to make decision. I skid the Volkl deacon 80 and absolutely loved the way it carved on the piste. I’m looking for the same feeling in the carved turns, but with slightly more soft snow or ‘off piste’ performance. I think I’m set on a Volkl. Would the M6 Mantra offer the same incredible edge feeling? Is it more difficult to get edge to edge? My ability is advanced, primarily I love ripping down groomed runs (80% of the time)on an edge but also like to dabble in the softer stuff when the group decides to and the snow conditions allow. Thanks
I think the move to the mid-90's makes sense. The Mantra isn't a great "dabbler" so much as it loves to charge on firmer snow. I'd take a look at the Blaze 94 for a lighter version and a more capable dabbler. I think it has very impressive grip and stability for the weight, but still nowhere near that of the Mantra, which is in a class of its own. It is pretty demanding, so take that into account.
Guys, I am still on a Vokyl RTM 84 because they are the best thing I have ever skied. I am 69 but ski quick, most on groomers with lots of fast turns. Time to buy my next pair. I am intrigued with Stockli’s or Vokyls again. What do I look at??
Dude get the Blaze 94s or the Mantra. The Blaze is lighter and better in light snow and turns well when your in tight surroundings/slower. The Mantra is for aggressive faster skiing on less powdery conditions. But there is lots of overlap there.
If you're still in the mood for the RTM style of ski, look no further than the Deacon 84 or the slightly lighter Deacon V.Werks. The Stockli Montero AR and Rossignol Experience 82 Ti are also great groomer skis with tons of performance, quality , and precision.
Hi, I am trying to decide on a ski purchase this week...here are the contenders..Elan Wingman 86 CTI Fusion X, Volkl Deacon 84, Volkdo Kendo 88 and Elan Ripstick 88. I live in Pittsburgh but will have more skiing days in Colorado this year in January and March..total days out west 11..vs probably 5 at home. I am in mid 60's and have been skiing for 58 years...not as aggressive as in the past...mainly groomed slopes (east) and hopefully more powder west... real thoughts on what I should by...5'8 and 200lbs. Thanks
I think the Ripstick 88 makes the most sense, especially if you're mainly in CO and are less aggressive than you've been. They carve really well with a strong edge grip, and while it's no Kendo in terms of stability at speed, it's pretty darn good. I think this makes more sense than the more front-side oriented skis on your list. I'd go with the Ripstick 88 in the 172, unless that sounds a bit long.
Awesome stuff, guys. Really love the effort and dedication you put in these videos. I am looking at the Mirrus Cor or Line Blade - they seem to fit in the same / own unique category. I currently see the Mirrus Cor as a bit more playful and the Blade maybe with a bit more range due to better float. If you would directly compare them, what would be your choice?
For me, as a larger skier, it comes down more to stability in a turn, and I found the Blade to have a better response in that department. The Blade is actually quite playful, as the ski needs a fair amount of torsional flexibility in order to adhere to the tight radius. The fun side effect is that the tail is pretty loose and fun when the edge angles are lower. Likely more freestyle performance with the Mirus Cor, but pretty close. I'd still take the Blade.
Best reviews
Thanks Marc!
Great video as always! You guys seemed a little more keen on the Serpo in last years review. Anything change in the construction? Seems like just graphics.
I've been skiing on Enforcers for a while - first the 93, then the 88, and I was considering going to the 94 this year. However, I might look to just add something altogether different in the mid 90's segment and keep the 88. The Serpo and that snap 😀 you guys keep talking about is drawing my attention. Seems like it would be something different and a good addition to my quiver. Thoughts?
Just graphics on the Serpo. It seems to want to finish one turn and enter the next a whole lot faster than the Enforcers do. It's also got more of an all-mountain feel than the Enforcer 88, which I love, but also find to be a bit of a handful in the bumps and trees. Have fun!
SE
Hi! I'm quite an advanced skier and I'm looking for some new skis. I used my dads FX84 from 2015 and loved their performance on piste and would like to have something a bit wider that still performs really well on piste. Leaning towards either the FX96 TI or the Stöckli Stormrider 95. How do those compare in your opinion? Thanks!!! :)
The Kastle has a bit more power and grip to it than the Stockli. The Stockli is quieter and smoother, but doesn't quite have the same stout feel that the Kastle has. I'm impressed with the FX 96's hard snow performance for sure, and while the Stormrider may be slightly lighter and more maneuverable, it's not quite as rugged as the Kastle.
great review---what is width of K2 poacher? and what size would Jeff use? and what is radius?
Poacher is 96 mm underfoot, has a 19-meter turn radius in the 184, and Jeff would likely use the 184.
I love skiing trees and want a good pop in my ski. Realistically i mostly ski groomers and park with some ice in their (midwest skier).
Was looking at these skis
-black crow camox
-black crow captis
-mirus cors
-bent 90
-faction prodigy 1s
- and these
what do you think would be best for me?
Sounds like Mirus Cor skier to me! They have a very unique blend of pop, woods, park, and groomers, and are surprisingly good on ice. I'd take a square look at those skis for your application!
Wonder were el Salomon qst are in this line up
92 went in the 90 mm comparison and the 98 went in the 100 mm comparison. Just fit better there than this mid-90 grouping.
I can't decide what to buy, i am intermediate skier, i am 183 cm and 85 kg i want to improve my carving skills on groomers and also to try to explore ungroomed snow. I am trying to decide between elan ripstick 96 and head core 93. And also I don't know what is the correct ski length for me . I am confused what to buy
The Ripstick is a safe bet while the Kore can be a reach for an intermediate skier. It handles groomed snow as well as off-trail situations quite well. The Kore can do it too, but can feel stiff for skiers who don't necessarily enjoy that aspect of a ski. I'd go 172 in the Ripstick 96.
Hey guys, I’m looking for a new ski in the 90s.
I really enjoyed skiing the declivity 102. The combo of stability at speed (point em down the fall line and go), surfiness at slow speeds, and carving prowess (love feeling the kick/edge grip out of the tail when tipped over)really ticked all the boxes for me. The only thing I didn’t like was the cumbersome width.
The obvious answer might be the declivity 92, but I’ve skied the 82 and found it a bit lacking at speed. So I’m not sure if the 92 is the right call or not.
So, is there anything out there, including skis outside of the declivity line, that would give me all the declivity 102 stability and characteristics (though I wouldn’t mind it to be a touch more on the carving side of the spectrum, or a touch more energy) in a 90s width?
Thanks
It also depends if you're looking for something similar or different. My first thought goes to the Serpo, as it has a lot of the same feels and qualities of the Armada--I'd definitely have that one on the list. Enforcer 94 takes it to the next level, and does fall a bit more on the carving side. It's like the Serpo and Declivity, just to another degree of ruggedness. I think between those, you'll find a whole lot to like, and I don't think it's silly to have the Declivity 92 on that list either.
Hi guys,
if you were to choose only one ski that could suit all conditions from icy to powdery slopes, which one would that be? Like when you wake up in the morning, it shouldn't matter if it's sunny or if it snows, just grab that one pair of skis that will make you smile all day long on the slopes...
This year, I picked up a Head Kore 93 for that use. It basically lives in the car. Jeff has a Nordica Unleashed 98 for that purpose. I'd be happy skiing pretty much anything on this wall in an every day format, but I love the combination of carving power and light weight maneuverability from the Kore. Jeff loves park, so he needs a ski that can perform on and off piste as well as jumps and rails.
Great review gents! I really like the look of the ripstick black edition. Just wondering in regards to sizing, I'm 6'1, 210 pounds. Like to ski quite hard accross the whole mountain and generally like my skis slightly on the shorter side.
What do you guys think would be the better option for me with the size 180 or 188?
Which do you prefer Bob?
Keep up the good work, Cheers!
I'm 6/2 225 and I like the 188 all day. I did not find the 180's to be "bad" in the least, so if you prefer shorter skis and are a bit smaller than me, I'd say 180 will be the way to go. Have fun!
SE/Bob
Skiessentials, which ski in entire 90-100 bracket is the best carver whilst still being fun in deeper snow? You also mention the Ripstick Black as the best carvers in the lineup - but you also say that the Stance 96 are like skiing on rails. Which are better all round? Advanced to expert level.
If I were only skiing on-trail, I'd take the Stance, but if soft snow was mixed in, I think the Ripstick is a more versatile ski. It's not quite as aggressive as the Stance, so it also kind of depends on how hard you're pushing it. At the end of the day, the Elan still does not have metal, and also has vapor tips, so it's just not as strong from tip to tail as the Stance. For its weight and what else it does, the Ripstick is one of the coolest skis out there, just not quite as powerful as Stance.
So if Blizzard made something waist sized between a Brahma and Bonifide with same construction,, that would probably be your last ski on the wall again too 😉
Always the same top 3, but boy they are all good in different ways
I'd say that's pretty accurate, and that Bonafide is pretty close and certainly could have gone on this wall had it not been in the ~100 mm one.
Hey guys, I’m an intermediate skier looking for a fun and manageable ski that I can carve, mogul and hop in the trees with. I don’t need insane speed (just got off of Enforcer 94 in VT and it wasn’t for me) and have tried the Camox and liked it but agree it felt a bit slidey. Seems the Elan Ripstick black or Black Crows Serpo would fit my profile well. What’re your thoughts? Open to suggestions and appreciate your insights in these videos, really helpful all around. Thanks!
I think you're in a great zone with awesome choices so far--can't really go wrong from here. Both the Ripstick and Serpo offer more pop and zing than the Enforcer while being a bit sturdier than the Camox. Between those, the Serpo has more of a kick out of the tail, which I think you may like since you use the term "hop". I'd lean that way, but it's tough to argue against the Ripstick as well!
Thank you for the great videos! I consider myself an advanced skier. Looking for a versatile ski for quick and carves on groomed and moguls but would like to hit the trees and powder sometime.. What would you recommend? I have been thinking about mindbender 89 Ti but would like to hear your picks!
That's a great choice! I think the ~88's is a great place to be. Elan Ripstick 88 and Atomic Maverick 86C are two other great options worth checking out. Have fun!
SE
Hello, please could you advice on what skis are best 50/50 all mountain skis of this group mid 90, we have Ranger 96, Rustler 9, Rossi Sender 94, Maverick 95, Ripstick 96 black? which one are still stable in speed on groomers but off piste they floating and are more agile and easier to move around trees and are less demanding on input from rider? As for other contenders skis in this category it would be : enforcer 94, stance 96, mantra m6 and bonafide 97. These are superb skis but they are very demanding and more front side orientated( like 70% piste, 30% off piste)
Thank you for your time and advice
You will likely get all you need from any of those skis, but I've had my best experiences on the Ripstick Black for all conditions and terrain.
How does the Serpo compare to the Navis?
Serpo has considerably better grip and energy. I liked the Navis in softer snow, but felt like the tip and shovel were not nearly as responsive as the Serpo, while the tails were a bit more similar.
Hi. I am skiing in Austria & Switzerland and a advanced/expert (not a professional) skiier.
I have to ski most the time on piste but go so much its possible off piste.
I’m over 200 cm tall and about 115kg. Which ski would you recommend to me? (I like the right half of the skis on your wall).
I think the Serpo is such a complete ski when it comes to on-piste performance and off-piste versatility. It's sharp as well as playful. 186 would likely be a good choice for your stats and application.