Scriabin - Sonata No. 5, Op. 53 (Trifonov)

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    After finishing his symphonic poem Le Poème de l'Extase, Op.54, Scriabin did not feel comfortable living in Paris. In early September 1907 he wrote:
    "Life is fearfully expensive, and the climate is rotten. The air in the areas where we could find an apartment big enough for us at a reasonable price is frightful [...] you cannot make any noise. You have to wear house slippers after 10 at night."
    Scriabin decided to go to live in Lausanne with his pregnant wife Tatyana, since he found the place to be cheaper, quieter, and healthier, and only 7 hours away from Paris. Also, he had his music being printed there, as he had recently broken his long-term partnership with publisher M.P. Belaieff due to financial discrepancies.
    In his new peaceful household in Edifice C Place de la Harpe, Scriabin could play the piano without fear of complaints from neighbours, and soon began to compose again, alongside the revisions he was making to the score of Le Poème. On 8 December, Tatyana wrote to a friend:
    "We go out a little, having caught up on our sleep. We begin to look normal again. Sasha even has begun to compose - 5th Sonata! I cannot believe my ears. It is incredible! That sonata pours from him like a fountain. Everything you have heard up to now is as nothing. You cannot even tell it is a sonata. Nothing compares to it. He has played it through several times, and all he has to do is to write it down [...]."
    In late December, Scriabin wrote to Morozova about the imminent completion of his new work:
    "The Poem of Ecstasy took much of my strength and taxed my patience. [...] Today I have almost finished my 5th Sonata. It is a big poem for piano and I deem it the best composition I have ever written. I do not know by what miracle I accomplished it [...]."
    Although the actual writing took only six days, from 8 to 14 December 1907, some ideas had been conceived much earlier. The initial nine bars of the first theme of the exposition, Presto con allegrezza (mm. 47 ff.), can be found in a notebook from 1905-1906, when Scriabin was in Chicago. Another notebook from 1906 contains the Imperioso theme (mm. 96 ff.), while elements from the Meno vivo (mm. 120 ff.) can also be made out, as well as sketched-out passages for a few other sections.
    Scriabin included an epigraph to this sonata, extracted from his essay Le Poème de l'Extase:
    Original Russian text:
    Я к жизни призываю вас, скрытые стремленья!
    Вы, утонувшие в темных глубинах
    Духа творящего, вы, боязливые
    Жизни зародыши, вам дерзновенье приношу!
    Original French translation:
    Je vous appelle à la vie, ô forces mysterieuses!
    Noyées dans les obscures profondeurs
    De l’esprit créateur, craintives
    Ebauches de vie, à vous j’apporte l’audace!
    English translation:
    I call you to life, O mysterious forces!
    Drowned in the obscure depths
    Of the creative spirit, timid
    Shadows of life, to you I bring audacity!
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 66

  • @sanatsanat5609
    @sanatsanat5609 3 роки тому +110

    I don't care you like this interpretation or not, I listen to this sonata now since about 40 years, and Trifonov made it interesting again for me and I loved it. People who use words like "I hate this interpretation" or something else are the cancer of good music. Here is a quote by Hamelin: "To me a performance is not an exhibition-- it's an offering."

    • @1872scriabin
      @1872scriabin Рік тому +8

      Players needs a premium audience like u

    • @DynastieArtistique
      @DynastieArtistique 5 місяців тому

      @@1872scriabinI’d say this is more braindead then premium but ok

    • @fredsik
      @fredsik 5 місяців тому +1

      @@DynastieArtistique How about stating your views on the matter instead of calling people braindead? Or do you assume that we instantly recognise you as an authority on the matter, as it seems like you view yourself to be?

    • @DynastieArtistique
      @DynastieArtistique 5 місяців тому

      @@fredsiksure, “People who use words like ‘I hate this interpretation’ or something else are the cancer of good music.” Pretty self explanatory I think. This person has either never been in the musical world or refuses to accept the way things work in it

    • @Jamesphilipjfry
      @Jamesphilipjfry 11 днів тому

      Right ? And they always say stupid ass shit like “omg too fast!”

  • @_jeff65_
    @_jeff65_ 2 роки тому +37

    Trifonov gave an all Scriabin recital in Montreal in February 2020 and that was the best concert I've ever attended.

  • @nowkentapplegate5315
    @nowkentapplegate5315 3 роки тому +29

    Trifonov creates an unbroken continuity. Many try bu end up with sewn together fragments. He tells the whole as a story.

  • @tainokreb5200
    @tainokreb5200 3 роки тому +27

    Such a poetic sonata

  • @p4c1fixbeats
    @p4c1fixbeats 2 роки тому +24

    I think this interpretation is one of the best I've ever heard: skriabin represents madness (horowitz himself said he was crazy) as a rule breaker in his late period. The perfect interpretation exists only in Skriabin's head but I believe that trifonov recreate this madness in such a good way.

  • @ИгорьПочкаев-ю1ж

    Великолепное , роскошное исполнение ! Вдохновенно ! Уверен Александр Николаевич прям , обнял бы с благодарностью за такое прочтение !! Браво !!

  • @nikolaimedtner7248
    @nikolaimedtner7248 4 роки тому +20

    Oh, Scriabin, I absolutely adore his music.

  • @mantictac
    @mantictac 2 роки тому +10

    If you dislike the style of this interpretation, listen to any extant piano roll recording of Scriabin playing his own pieces. It can be stranger.

  • @cvborges
    @cvborges 9 місяців тому +2

    First time I hear it and i feel flabbergasted ❤

  • @SeigneurReefShark
    @SeigneurReefShark 3 роки тому +41

    Why all the bad comments about the interpretation? I find it very great

    • @robb6560
      @robb6560 3 роки тому +7

      I don't know, I'm a musician and this interpretation is remarkable

    • @SCRIABINIST
      @SCRIABINIST 3 роки тому +14

      It is very great, perhaps Trifonov's style isn't appealing to some hardcore conservative musicians

    • @cadenzalien4554
      @cadenzalien4554 3 роки тому +6

      yes, the more "conservative" musicians usually dislike him, idk why tho

    • @SCRIABINIST
      @SCRIABINIST 3 роки тому +9

      @@cadenzalien4554 This is most likely the case because of how Trifonov in this case doesn't exactly follow the score and indicated instructions by Scriabin. Compared to someone like Rachmaninoff as a performer, who is very strict with playing the music according to the sheet music.

    • @em8714
      @em8714 3 роки тому +12

      @@cadenzalien4554 They're generally older people that look at the likes of Rubinstein, Horrowitz, Richter... as gods. They just shit on modern pianists despite the fact many modern pianists have far greater recordings of certain pieces from the older pianists.

  • @GrosseFuge-i9i
    @GrosseFuge-i9i 3 роки тому +2

    좋은 연주 듣고 가요!

  • @alhths-n9w
    @alhths-n9w Рік тому +2

    this is really cool

  • @misterkay3554
    @misterkay3554 4 місяці тому

    Trifonov's Scriabin n.5 =
    almost like Glenn Gould's interpretation
    BUT with Regular Tempo as scores indicated
    ONE OF MY FAVORITES RECORD!!!

  • @Dee.CeeHaich
    @Dee.CeeHaich 3 місяці тому

    Love it!

  • @PoochiePookie12
    @PoochiePookie12 2 роки тому

    music note: 1:46 (and maybe 10 seconds before)

  • @Pianodud
    @Pianodud Рік тому +1

    1:41 windows 10's sound effect?????

  • @themobiusfunction
    @themobiusfunction 3 роки тому +3

    10:40 Coda

  • @okleodpadseeote5317
    @okleodpadseeote5317 3 роки тому +2

    1:54

  • @themobiusfunction
    @themobiusfunction 3 роки тому +2

    10:56 con luminositá

  • @DynastieArtistique
    @DynastieArtistique 6 місяців тому +1

    Trifonov’s awful forced artificial rubato just adds to his plastic-sounding Scriabin. The imagination here is absent, and the dramatic elements surrounding Scriabins music, the roaring waves, thunder, flashes of light, caressing breeze, are all gone and replaced by an attempt to imitate them rather than embody them

  • @bilimtv791
    @bilimtv791 4 роки тому +1

    Hi

  • @Tulanir1
    @Tulanir1 4 роки тому +6

    2:34 ?

  • @Dichweed
    @Dichweed 8 місяців тому +1

    Not a good interpretation.

  • @Kalen1457
    @Kalen1457 4 роки тому +13

    He distorts a lot of the rhythms, I mean a little rubato is fine but in excess it comes across as distorted and sacrilegious to the written music itself.

    • @seanfogarty5559
      @seanfogarty5559 3 роки тому +5

      Yes! I thought I noticed that. The opening has him cutting things short, elongating them, and that happens throughout... I think this piece is best when played with a lot of rubato, but the way he's done it here just feels inexact and odd.

    • @themobiusfunction
      @themobiusfunction 3 роки тому

      I noticed that at 3:20

    • @jabarzey
      @jabarzey 3 роки тому +7

      Whilst I totally agree that what he does here is very unique and oftentimes in disagreement with the score, I find Trifonov's interpretation to be very refreshing in most of this piece. There are only a few parts where I'd rather he did something different, but with all of his decisions I feel like there is musical justification for it, even if you might disagree!
      I've been searching for the "perfect" interpretation of this piece for years and still haven't found it, so I'm starting to believe that it just doesn't exist...

    • @8beef4u
      @8beef4u 3 роки тому +8

      I quite like that actually. I think this is somewhat of an ignorant comment as it does not take into account the majority of musical history where there was much much more room for interpretation, including adding notes and slight improvisation if it is justified. I think Trifonov clearly makes it work whilst being true to the score.

    • @TomCL-vb6xc
      @TomCL-vb6xc 3 роки тому +25

      Were he playing the music of another composer like Ravel I would agree, but it’s Scriabin - who was known for his erratic rubato and almost always played his own works differently from the score. It’s also a piece about rapturous ecstasy - I’m not exactly looking for a pianist to take a controlled or measured approach when performing it.

  • @Chorizo727
    @Chorizo727 Рік тому +2

    Ouch. Could be better

    • @Jamesphilipjfry
      @Jamesphilipjfry Рік тому

      Dude grow some ears. The sonorities he gets out of the piano are INSANE in this one

    • @DynastieArtistique
      @DynastieArtistique 6 місяців тому

      @@Jamesphilipjfrydude wtf is your point😭 the “sonorities” are great and therefore it’s a good interpretation? Also trifonovs tone and sound production is far from special anyways

  • @aidanm.1683
    @aidanm.1683 3 роки тому

    More romantic with rubato
    Less dream-like

  • @cme1447
    @cme1447 4 роки тому +3

    It sounds horrible :/

    • @LucasPianoSalon
      @LucasPianoSalon 3 роки тому +1

      @Jcil A Technically, it is a stunning piece, but unfortunately with a stunningly poor interpretation.

    • @IAmDylanPowers
      @IAmDylanPowers 2 роки тому

      Why does it sound horrible? Maybe it's because he wrote very difficult piano music? Or isn't it because of the sound of the introduction and the coda?

    • @FranzLiszt0904
      @FranzLiszt0904 Рік тому +3

      @@IAmDylanPowers It has a meaning

    • @CatkhosruShapurrjiFurabji
      @CatkhosruShapurrjiFurabji Рік тому +2

      This is one of the last pieces you can call horrible.

    • @DynastieArtistique
      @DynastieArtistique 6 місяців тому

      @@CatkhosruShapurrjiFurabjiI think he’s talking about the intepertation (and I agree)

  • @themobiusfunction
    @themobiusfunction 3 роки тому +2

    3:52