2021 KTM 890 ADVENTURE: IMPRESSIONS from a 1290 SUPER ADVENTURE S & R Rider
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- Опубліковано 30 вер 2021
- As a long time rider of the 1290 Super Adventure S (and now R) this is the first time on a mid-sized adventure bike for me. How the 2021 KTM 890 Adventure feels for someone that rarely rides anything smaller than 1000 cc and how it compares to the 1290 Super Adventure is topic of this video? How does it stack up? Would I consider downsizing to a mid-size adventure bike?
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That was the best test and summary on the internet, plus making the comparisons was brilliant. Thanks
Thank you very much for the kind words 😉 glad liked it 👍
I had a Pan America Special for a year and a half. It has issues, I'll leave it at that. Directly after the PA I bought a 2018 1290 SA-R from the dealership as I needed a capable ADV bike. The 2018 version was too large for me, I'm 5'8" with a 30.5-31" inseam and in my late 50's. So I traded for the 890 Adventure S model. I haven't been doing serious off-road riding but I've put over 4,000 miles on it in three months. It is a highly capable mile muncher. You do notice a difference at first from the larger bikes but it doesn't take long to adjust to the 890. Most fun I've had on a bike since I was a kid. I also love the black & orange version, to each their own. lol
Thanks for sharing your experience and journey that brought you to the 890. I am on my third 1290 and last time around I thought hard about the 890 vs 1290. I still do a good amount of road riding where the 1290 is great. The off-road parts would benefit from a lighter bike. So maybe down the road I will go for something lighter. It would be the R version though 😉
@@MotoVibes I would think you’d love the R version. 👍
Safe and happy trails!
@pinkiewerewolf I've been riding 32 yrs, the same height/inseam as you 165#- I've had the multistrada 1200S, streetfighters V4S, etc and I love the power but I really need a middle weight bike that is manageable to navigate in and out of a tight garage space, has reasonable power and comfort for a daily commuter, AND is decent for 2 up riding (wife is 5'3" 125#) - My daily commute is 30 miles each way of twisty mountain roads - And I love just shooting into town on the weekends with my wife - what's your opinion for my situation?
@@duca503 I would highly recommend a KTM 890 in any of their variations, based on you and your wife's sizes. I have 9K in 7 1/2 months of solo riding with plenty of 500 mile days. Especially for maneuvering in tight places.
If you can't do without blazing speed for long distances I'd give a newer 1290 KTM a look. It won't be as maneuverable in tight places but they have lowered the seat height and the height/weight of the fuel when they made the changes a year or two ago. It would be a better 2-up travel bike because of the increased power and physical size of the bike.
Other bikes I'd look at would be the Triumph Tiger line up.
Great to see you back riding... no matter what kind of bike. Wish you luck in the full
convalescence.
Thanks a lot. This was a recording from before the accident 😉
Enjoyed the review, thanks, I like the handling of the bike, easy and smooth
Thank you very much 😉
Excellent review, thanks - no reason to downsize from my 1290 S yet! :)
Same here 😉
What’s up, my German friend! Happy to see you back on the saddle!👍
Thank you very much- this was before the accident 😉
Great review. I've been given an 890 adventure whilst 1290 S is in for it's 18k service. Like you I'm really impressed with the engine. Feels like there is more usable power and it doesn't feel lacking. Lots of midrange torque so takes off in 5 and 6 gear on the motorway. I use my 1290 for commuting but also long distance (done two ironbutts this year) so not looking to change but it absolutely has its place. If I ever need a lighter bike this would be on my list.
Thank you very much- same here I have been eyeing the 890 series for a while as a possible option in the future- I have yet try the R version especially for off-road riding. It’s on my list 😉
Excellent bonus video. Very thorough first ride review. Not often you here the words, “I have no idea where I’m at” and “there’s a lot of scuba divers around here”. I find that hilarious. Loads of info for those researching this motorbike. Happy Trails my UA-cam friend, I trust your recovery is going well. 👍🏼 😎 🇺🇸 🌎
Thank you very much - I was not even sure if I wanted to release this video as a astand alone video - I was hoping to ride the R model and then maybe do a combined review. I tend to record more than I end up using for videos ;-) Today, I was out for a 400 km ride - first time and it felt great to be back on the bike! I will not attempt any off-road riding any time soon as I am not quite a 100% yet - that will have to wait until next year.
@@MotoVibes………
So looking forward to seeing your next adventure videos.👍🏼 😎 🇺🇸 🌎
Thanks for the balanced and fair review. I like that you mention that most of thing’s that you’re not used to or that aren’t as good as your 1290S/R’s are just that, things you’re not used to.
As an 890R owner who came from a 1090R and 950Adv, I think you’d be more comfortable with slower pegs as the would make the bars feel higher and the seating position feel about the same size as the 1090/1290. For me the 890 “felt” small when I first got it, but you get used to that pretty quick. I prefer the bars as far forward as possible to aid in off road control. But ofc that’s a bit of a compromise for seated road riding.
You really need to try an 890R off road with decent tires! You’re welcome to take mine for a spin if you’re ever in Norway ;)
Thank you very much James. Who knows I might take you up on the offer 😉 you have a lot more places to ride a bike off the pavement and with speed limits as they are I would very likely go for an 890 R too. Next year I hope to try the R version 😎
Great review
Thank you - glad you liked it ;-)
Overall nice review especially from someone riding a 1290 SAR like myself. Putting the ugly looks of the 790/890s aside, I seriously considered getting one. It is too bad you did not have a chance to test ride the 890 R version, as that would have been a much better comparison. Also I hope you recover soon and will maybe be able to test ride the 890 Adventure R off road!
The main drawback on these bikes compared to our „old“ 1290s is Euro 5 and the sound (or the total lack of it)!
I hope I get do ride the R version next year. I am sure the different suspension will be a major change in how the bike will ride and feel. I finally took out my 1290 SAR yesterday - first long day trip after the crash. I really loved the sound of the Akrapovic. I think it gets better over time 😉.
Thanks for your review. This spring I changed my 1290 SAS (previous a 1190) for a 890 Adventure S and I am still very, very happy with it. The reason was the 1290 is for me to heavy for offroad riding. I am 1,75 and rond 70 kg so littlle mass compareerden to the mass of a 1290.. For me the 890 is more agile. The seat is hard but I got used to it. I did allready 12.000 km and no technical issues. I changed the Avon tires at 1600 km to the Michelin Anakee Adventure and recently to the Motoz GPS. The 890 is also very fuel economic. Stay safe!
Thank you for your feedback 😉 how much of off-road riding to you get to do if may ask?
@@MotoVibes This year I did some training sessions. I hope next year to do some TET in Holland and some of the tracks in the Alps, like you. My goal is to ride the Sommelier.
The sections in your video of the Salt road did not look as Denzel’s 4-5? Some sections look steep but the gravel road looked OK to me. Grtzz
@@robhahn7422 the Salt Road is easy - there is only one spot that could be considered Denzel 4-5. The Col de Sommeiller is more challenging over a longer distance
Great looking bike.
KTM has definitely improved on the looks with the latest iteration of the 890 Adventure series ;-)
It is really a choice to make beween versatility and comfort. For me the 890 works perfect.... and this is good for my wallet 😀 Thank you for your video, very well done! 👍
Thank you very much Christian
Thank you for another great review I also like to know where you got your motorcycle helmet it what kind of camera you use I really like it if you could send me information on that I surely would appreciate it and I love your videos they're really good
The latest video on the helmet (and similar one from Nexx) is this one: ua-cam.com/video/ysiMw_UWN1o/v-deo.html I also have a video dedicated to my dual camera setup for the motorcycle including the camera and sound setup up on the helmet: ua-cam.com/video/d7eh1HCxp0c/v-deo.html
That should answer most questions ;-)
@@MotoVibes Thank you so much.I really appreciate it and keep putting out those great videos very well done and very well informative thank you so much again
@@MotoVibes Thank you so much for this information again great presentation and presenting the information thank you again
@@MrRambo50 thank you very much- glad it was helpful 😉
Another great review from Atlanta Georgia I still think I'll stick with the 1290 Al Vita Zane
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Good to see you had a Helite Vest...I have a Helite and a TechAir-5
Right on! I am going to try the KLIM vest next year as the Helite vest did not work for me for light off-road riding (to be fair - it was never meant to do it) ua-cam.com/video/4O7xjgOfCPo/v-deo.html
@@MotoVibes
My Helite is the analog model with the tether, but wow, that Bump was big enough to set yours off 😂👍
@@elithegreat6463 i had to try it 😂
I borrowed one of these when my 1290 SAS was being serviced. Like you, I found it small however I was so light I took it places I wouldn’t have been to go on my big bike. I cannot agree about the seat though - I found it more comfortable than the stock 1290 seat. I wouldn’t like to ride the 890 on a long trip - much prefer the bigger bike for that.
I was very surprised to see such a big difference between the 890 and the 1290 in long distance touring comfort. I thought these bikes would be a lot closer together in that respect but that is where they differ the most.
Really cool helmet and riding suit - what brand and model are each of those? I see a K and an M so far so maybe a KLIM HELITE and too expensive for me. But maybe someday as I heard they're probably worth it.
Thank you Brad. Have a look in the description for reviews and details on the riding gear. 😉
The sound of REMUS exhaust is much better than Akrapovic (talking about the two options od exhausts provided by KTM for this bike). Akrapovic souns very like stock one. And REMUS costs slightly less and looks IMHO much nicer.
Thx for video, have fun on roads!
Good to know. I usually like Akrapovic for their sound but on this bike it’s pretty weak 😬
Hi there, great video and very impartial.. I'm 62 and I bought a 2020 Ktm 1290 super adventure S, it's a great bike but I found it a bit too tall, I even bought boots with big heels and soles but if there's a slope on the road at traffic lights etc when I need to stop I was stressed out. The 1290 is heavy for an oul fella to move around the garage too. I took a 2022 Kttm 890 adventure for a test ride and I was overjoyed to be able to plant both feet on the ground.. As you reported there are compromises but the 890 is much easier to handle than the former model 1290 S (ballast from fuel low down ).. I collect the 890 on Friday. Also, what is the helmet you wear? Please keep up the good work. Kindest regards, Gerry from Dublin
I have going back and forth on considering to size down for the better handling. Someday I likely will - congratulations to your new 890 - I hope you will have hundreds of enjoyable miles on it. As for the helmet- this is the latest video I did on it ua-cam.com/video/ysiMw_UWN1o/v-deo.html
Thanks for the helmet review, looks great.
Great to see you on the motorbike. Glad you are recovering from your bicycle crash.
Thank you- I should have mentioned that this was recorded before the crash 😉
Well, I hope you are well on the road to a full recovery soon to put out more freat content!
What number setting for traction control were you on when the bike was weaving ?
I do not think this bike came with the rally mode - what part of the video are you referring to Dave?
What are the RPM's @80-85 mph...I have a 1250 R/T and am used to rolling at 90+ on the freeways...
Honestly I cannot say. It’s been too long but a small bike like the 890 will not compare to an excellent touring bike like the RT in matters of smoothnesses at freeway speeds.
Good to see you back in the saddle! 890 not a bad one to be on either!
Must feel like a toy to you! Ha Ha...
Did you ever get that Helite Air bag jacket again that didn't need a lanyard attachment to the bike? As the company recalled the new one you bought, did they sort it out?
I went with the lanyard Helite vest
The new model is just another thing that needs to be charged up
Yeah. It’s my electronic vest which I received back in just a few days after the recall. This was recorded before my accident by the way- just did not get around to editing it sooner 😉
Late comment but... I have a -20 1290s and i tested a 890 duke. And strangely the duke felt faster than my 1290. I know it isnt, but the acceleration felt much more agressive. Maybe lower gearing?
Also the slighter weight and the agile handling may have something to do with it. I tried the big 1290 duke for a day and that is a completely different beast entirely 😎
Leider find ich die 790/890 adv Reihe brutal hässlich, aber das geringe Gewicht hat schon was. Da ich vor zwei Wochen bei einem Unfall mit meiner Tiger selbige vermutlich vollkommen geschrottet habe geht's jetzt um die Frage 1290 SAS BJ 2021 oder eine ältere. Aber wenn die Versicherung weiterhin so schnell ist, hab ich noch reichlich Zeit für meine Überlegung :o)
Schön dich wieder im Sattel zu sehen!
Vielen Dank Max! meine Entscheidung kennst Du ja 😉 1290 all the way 👍
bad sholder lightbike ahahaahah. good to see you on 2 wheels again my frend 🤘🏻🤙🏻👍🏻 try to test the 890 adv R RALLY THATS THE ONE FOR OFF-ROAD
Yeah. That is what I am hoping to do and give it a proper test off-road. This by the way was recorded before my accident 😉
@@MotoVibes are you driving again or not.....
Not yet - but I am planing to go out for a short ride tomorrow - see how it is - I patiently waited my 3 months ;-)
How was the wind protection;;
It’s Ok for touring- kinda like my small wind screen on the 1290 😉
Hi My German friend 👻
Great to see you riding 🏍
I’m not convinced with the 890 looks
Those mirrors 😵💫 bars need risers
No I think I would go with the Tenere
If I changed to a middleweight bike
Still got a lot of mile to do on my 1090r
Before I think of change
But remember stay safe and you are awesome 😎
Thank you very much David. The R is better looking i think- also this was recorded before my crash - not riding yet 😬
I think that I’m not the only one thought yuh was back in the saddle
Let’s hope it not too far away my German. Friend
it is not - I am planing to take the 1290 R for a spin tomorrow ;-)
Great news 🏍
I know this is a really old video but: after the 600 mile service - the bike gets much louder & faster. I'm pretty sure you / he said this was still in breakin miles.
Good to know - yes it was right before the 600 mile mark
21-inch front tire 19-inch rear might be the reason that it feels wobbly...
I have the same large wheels my 1290 super adventure R. Larger wheels increase stability not decrease. I will have to trachte 890 adventure R and see how this bike rides with better suspension 😉
Glad I watched this before heading to the dealership to possibly trade my ‘17 1290 SAR TO THE 890 Adventure. As I’ve gotten older, I’m finding myself more on the asphalt than off-road; thus, thinking of the 890 Adv. With your review, now I’m not so sure.
I did not mean to spoil anything for anyone 😉 You should still give the bike a try and see for yourself. Also, the R version of the 890 Adventure may be completly different - especially if you are riding the 1290 SAR now this may be closer to what your are looking for. Then again - if the road is where you spend most of your time it is hard to beat the big 1290 in comfort and power - I am not bothered by the weight at all on pavement - off-road the lighter 890 will be better or more difficult terrain. I hoping to take the 890 Adventure R on a test spin ideally in off-road conditions - I am very curious to see how much easier it will handle than the 1290 SAR. cheers!
@@MotoVibes I just came from the dealership, and after talking to a couple of the guys there, I’m convinced to keep the bike… for now. If anything, they suggested to convert the wheels into the S and out on road tires. Or, just go with a Bridgestone 90/10 tires. I currently have the Anakee Adventure 80/20.
@@georgegopiao4411 It is relatively expensive to get a second set of wheels - especially if you include the rotors. I have a second set of wheels which I bought for my S model (I wanted to spoked wheels for offroad riding). If you are interested in this topic check out the following 2 videos
ua-cam.com/video/jIKVfJC2uz4/v-deo.html and this one ua-cam.com/video/jhHcqK-eaNA/v-deo.html - I do not think I would spend that kind of money if I were in your shoes - a good 90/10 tire will go a long way ;-) cheers, Oliver
@@MotoVibes Makes a lot of sense, Oliver. I’m leaning toward the 90/10 option instead. Cheers!
I really liked this bike when I test rode it earlier in the summer, except for one thing - the screen. It is terrible. I got lots of buffeting on the top of my helmet. I'm not particularly tall either and the screen was apparently on it's highest setting. It was brutal at certain speeds. You can only adjust the screen with the bike stopped and you off it, using tools which is absolutely ridicalous. What were KTM thinking? It has more than enough power for the road. I test rode it back to back against a SDR 3.0, the Beast which feels even smaller. I wanted to ride an 890 Adv R but the dealer only had one and that was not a demo bike so wouldn't allow me out on it. I think it looks ok. IIRC the Rally with QS option was another £800.00 which I think is a bit cheeky of KTM.
Thank you Alex for sharing your experience. I am sure there are aftermarket wind shields that will work better than stock but KTM really dropped the ball on the height adjustment that requires tools - who does that in this day and age 🤔 so, what are you going to do?
Dude I like most of your video's. But this time it is almost annoying how you keep mentioning "small", "downsized", "midsized" or how surprised you are... etc. You seem to refere to a 1290 as the normal size since you drive it, and everything smaller as less. IMHO that is a common problem in bikeland, where people do ego buying because others might think you are not the real deal or less of a man.... or worse, men calling a lighter bike a girls bike? Yikes, imagine being short sighted like that...
In the KTM streetrange I'd consider the 390 as light, 690-890 as medium and heavier than that as oversized.
Don't judge, love em all...
First off - thank you very much for your feedback rather than just leaving a dislike! I did not intend to belittle smaller cc bikes - I think the mid-size adventure category is actually hitting the initial intend of an adventure motorcycle much better nowadays as the the "top of the line" bikes which are still get bigger and heavier. The 700-900 cc category is especially interessting for those whose spent a lot of time off-road. In this review I was merely giving you guys the very first impression of riding the 890 adventure from someone that has only ever ridden large cc motorcycles - this was indeed the very first time for me to ride an aventure bike smaller than 1200 cc - no judging just sharing the experience from that vantage point ;-) If I had the funds I would love to add a smaller cc adventure bike or even a 250-350 cc enduro to my current bike. Ride Safe!
@@MotoVibes Great: thanks for your answer! I appreciate it.
Are you getting one.?
Not this year. If I did it would be the R version 😉
@@MotoVibes Never had KTM but good luck, I'll make sure to watch it. 👍
@@aarsenalfan I am on my third KTM but so far it has been the 1290 series - which is for the moment the best fit - however, off-road a smaller lighter bike would sometimes be a better fit ;-)
@@MotoVibes Have you tried Aprilia Tuareg 660 as cheaper option.?
Small engine???? You only need a street bike. This is for some serious off-road. You could drive a Corvette on the "off-road" you took. You don't need a 1290 either. Just go by a Harley Dresser it will suit all your needs
It's a damn ugly bike! 🤣 R version much better looking.. Though I wouldn't buy either.
Yeah. The R would be my preference too for sure 😉
Wirklich furchtbares Design, ganz schlimm...
Als R oder Rallye R geht es dann fast schon wieder aber eine Schönheit ist sie nicht 😉