Yeah stealth camping doesn't need fire, I'd say some of the sketchy places I've camped if I'd had a fire it would be like a massive beacon saying 'I'M HERE!'
Great stuff fellas, very true . Some stuff needs to be said.. been at this a long time now and you have nailed a lot of stereotypical outdoors folk so called influencers ..
Here is another one for you, people reviewing gear on amazon having never used it. Last year I had five close encounters with black bear and decided to purchase some bear spray. The reviews were stellar but I couldn't find anyone who claimed to have used it on a bear. I'm not reviewing the product until I can say whether it was effective or not!
@@NCArtVT oh yes.. We don't have that issue here but it's the same with emergency beacons or GPS ones, almost no-one has ever used them so you HOPE they work!
Well thanks for watching! I thought people being able to hear better was enough to post this, also trimmed out some of the 'is it recording' stuff because it's not needed, but otherwsie left is as is, because I think we all made important points.
Yeah, especially when you are walking across many different places on a long through hike....you have to represent them all in your walking shots etc. it simply gets too much to do on a long hike.
@@harduphiker i totally agree 👍 I have been on some short adventures trying to capture shots and all the exercise walking back and forth can get overwhelming at times so much going into making these crazy videos and shots hard up hiker aka Tim Love ❤️ Peace ☮️ And Chicken 🐔 Grease my friend keep pressing forward young man
Wheres the video s lol. How are you doing sir? Went to Florida with daughter husband granddaughter. Pool beach. Sea food 95 degrees day time 78 at night. Absolutely a blast.
Gents, do a serious through hike where there aren't any shops or facilities and you have to carry several days rations and then tell me how bad lightweight dehydrated meals meals are. Try Cape Wrath with days of wet rations extracted from multiple tins, let me know how that goes in terms of both weight and health. I can agree for one or two nights, but rehydrated meals have their place and are a real boon for certain trips.
Are you telling me to do a long through hike? LOL. South Downs Way -3 parts, 95 miles Nov-Jan. Thames Path V1: 170 miles - March in a 2 week period West Highland Way and Great Glen Way - done at the same time, 160-170 miles over a 2 week period in May Thames Path V2 - Goring to Source, 100 miles 2 weeks ago.... I mean some of those (Scotland, TP 2) aren't up yet, but the lives are, and the posts about them, and I even used footage FROM those trips in this video... Maybe you should've taken a quick look at channel before commenting? I mean the very footage I showed testing the Firepot meals - which I streamed live, was from a tent in the middle of nowhere 11 miles from Fort William. So yes I know what I speak of....those meals are foul and not worth the weight benefit - and they are destroying the planet. Please tell me you are reusing the mylar packs and not just throwing them?
@@AnIdiotOutdoors Roger that, I totally agree, there are much cheaper ways to do it, though sometimes for a one nighter I just test these meals for a proper through hike later, if I'm going to suffer these meals they at least have to make an effort on the taste front 🙂
@@harduphiker I know you have done some through hikes, my point is that these dehydrated meals serve a purpose where nothing else is suitable. Whichever strategy you take you have to make compromises, either weight, convenience or something else. When I'm yomping through miles of bog and mountains saving the planet isn't top of my list in a survival situation (though I am mindful of the environment). If saving the planet is your main concern you'd be sleeping on a hemp mat, wearing hemp clothes under canvas, but that doesn't appear to be your current set up, so please don't try to lecture me on a few mylar bags. Until the manufacturers get their acts together there isn't much I can do about their packaging, apart from starve. You have to carry rations in some kind of packaging so I'm not really seeing your point there and rehydrated rations are the only real option on a serious through hike in the wilderness, I have 26 years military experience so I'm comfortable that I'm solid ground on this one. You might also want to temper your tone a little bit, we can have a much more civil discussion without the sanctimony, see the an idiot outdoors' comments for details.
Thing is, there isn't any light usable green alternatives for those things (sleeping pad, tent etc) where there ARE alternatives for single-use mylar. I have used mylar to store dried milk but I try to reuse the bags, and avoid it where I can. Sadly you can't re-use it safely for hot meals as the glue weakens. I use bioethanol for this reason as it's way better than butane which is oil derived. I reuse bottles for water. That is the point, you try and be green where you can and then reuse and reduce where you can't. It is not a binary. But not happy with you coming here lecturing me about tone when you should re-read your first post especially the word "serious" suggesting my hikes so far have been silly or basic. It reads to me as patronising and rude. So the same comment about 'tempering your tone' applies to you. I don't come to your channel and start lecturing you on your hikes, suggesting they are basic?
Thanks guys, enjoyed the video. The slug whisperer.
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Hahaha loved this video guy 😂😂, no man should be sitting in there tent scared of a noise hahaha, keep up the good work. Atb Wullie ✊🏻🏴
Thank you, and glad you liked it!
@@harduphiker we have all been guilty of one or two of them over the years hahahah love it. ✊🏻🏴
Yes Tim this is so much better 100% Well done! I love the banter 😂🫡
Would not be possible without your footage, and ideas we came up together.
Even stealth camping. You must have a fire to be a master. 😊
Yeah stealth camping doesn't need fire, I'd say some of the sketchy places I've camped if I'd had a fire it would be like a massive beacon saying 'I'M HERE!'
@roberttolley5055 I couldn't agree more! 😄💪👊
Hahaha loved this video guy 😂😂 keep up the good work. Atb Wullie ✊🏻🏴
Great stuff fellas, very true . Some stuff needs to be said.. been at this a long time now and you have nailed a lot of stereotypical outdoors folk so called influencers ..
Thank you!
Here is another one for you, people reviewing gear on amazon having never used it. Last year I had five close encounters with black bear and decided to purchase some bear spray. The reviews were stellar but I couldn't find anyone who claimed to have used it on a bear. I'm not reviewing the product until I can say whether it was effective or not!
@@NCArtVT oh yes.. We don't have that issue here but it's the same with emergency beacons or GPS ones, almost no-one has ever used them so you HOPE they work!
Am watching the rewatch for stuff i missed
yeah its a long video with a lot of points 🙂
Just getting ready for Florida. Helping neighbor. Leave Friday 14 hr ride.
Not sure if I prefer Paul's version or this. Either way, you two were obviously enjoying yourselves on this one 🫡
Well thanks for watching! I thought people being able to hear better was enough to post this, also trimmed out some of the 'is it recording' stuff because it's not needed, but otherwsie left is as is, because I think we all made important points.
I'm keeping eye on you jokers. 🐟
Yes we are trouble ;-)
2:35 it’s a lot of work filming
Yeah, especially when you are walking across many different places on a long through hike....you have to represent them all in your walking shots etc. it simply gets too much to do on a long hike.
@@harduphiker i totally agree 👍 I have been on some short adventures trying to capture shots and all the exercise walking back and forth can get overwhelming at times so much going into making these crazy videos and shots hard up hiker aka Tim Love ❤️ Peace ☮️ And Chicken 🐔 Grease my friend keep pressing forward young man
@@lowermichiganadventures Thanks! 🙂
Wheres the video s lol. How are you doing sir? Went to Florida with daughter husband granddaughter. Pool beach. Sea food 95 degrees day time 78 at night. Absolutely a blast.
This is it for now. I've been ill.
Get better buddy @@harduphiker
Gents, do a serious through hike where there aren't any shops or facilities and you have to carry several days rations and then tell me how bad lightweight dehydrated meals meals are. Try Cape Wrath with days of wet rations extracted from multiple tins, let me know how that goes in terms of both weight and health. I can agree for one or two nights, but rehydrated meals have their place and are a real boon for certain trips.
Are you telling me to do a long through hike? LOL.
South Downs Way -3 parts, 95 miles Nov-Jan.
Thames Path V1: 170 miles - March in a 2 week period
West Highland Way and Great Glen Way - done at the same time, 160-170 miles over a 2 week period in May
Thames Path V2 - Goring to Source, 100 miles 2 weeks ago....
I mean some of those (Scotland, TP 2) aren't up yet, but the lives are, and the posts about them, and I even used footage FROM those trips in this video...
Maybe you should've taken a quick look at channel before commenting?
I mean the very footage I showed testing the Firepot meals - which I streamed live, was from a tent in the middle of nowhere 11 miles from Fort William. So yes I know what I speak of....those meals are foul and not worth the weight benefit - and they are destroying the planet.
Please tell me you are reusing the mylar packs and not just throwing them?
@Lands_Solo I hear you, but I'm talking people going on an overnight camp and having them camping meals like it's a 'got to have.'
@@AnIdiotOutdoors Roger that, I totally agree, there are much cheaper ways to do it, though sometimes for a one nighter I just test these meals for a proper through hike later, if I'm going to suffer these meals they at least have to make an effort on the taste front 🙂
@@harduphiker I know you have done some through hikes, my point is that these dehydrated meals serve a purpose where nothing else is suitable. Whichever strategy you take you have to make compromises, either weight, convenience or something else. When I'm yomping through miles of bog and mountains saving the planet isn't top of my list in a survival situation (though I am mindful of the environment).
If saving the planet is your main concern you'd be sleeping on a hemp mat, wearing hemp clothes under canvas, but that doesn't appear to be your current set up, so please don't try to lecture me on a few mylar bags. Until the manufacturers get their acts together there isn't much I can do about their packaging, apart from starve. You have to carry rations in some kind of packaging so I'm not really seeing your point there and rehydrated rations are the only real option on a serious through hike in the wilderness, I have 26 years military experience so I'm comfortable that I'm solid ground on this one. You might also want to temper your tone a little bit, we can have a much more civil discussion without the sanctimony, see the an idiot outdoors' comments for details.
Thing is, there isn't any light usable green alternatives for those things (sleeping pad, tent etc) where there ARE alternatives for single-use mylar. I have used mylar to store dried milk but I try to reuse the bags, and avoid it where I can. Sadly you can't re-use it safely for hot meals as the glue weakens.
I use bioethanol for this reason as it's way better than butane which is oil derived. I reuse bottles for water. That is the point, you try and be green where you can and then reuse and reduce where you can't. It is not a binary.
But not happy with you coming here lecturing me about tone when you should re-read your first post especially the word "serious" suggesting my hikes so far have been silly or basic.
It reads to me as patronising and rude. So the same comment about 'tempering your tone' applies to you. I don't come to your channel and start lecturing you on your hikes, suggesting they are basic?