"Mortal, you have served your purpose. Now face your End. I am the all-consuming void. What can one mote of golden light illuminate within the abyss? Countless stars. Countless worlds. Countless lives. All fell to me, all brought to nothing. All the teeming chaos of creation? Brought to order. To neutrality. To nothing. I saw your mind as you ran through my prison. You have fought machines and gods. They were mighty. They were finite. I am Infinite. I am nothing. You struggle as so many have done before. You will be consumed like all those before you. I saw your mind. Your courage never wavered. Why? Arrogance? Ignorance? Stupidity? I was contained once. Once. Is that why? My captors bent time and space. My captors built a whole reality to contain me. My captors burnt their souls away to fuel their engines. And you? You glitter; you fly above me like a gnat. I am inevitable, I cannot be denied. You strike this incarnation with all your might. It changes nothing. You are not brave; you are not victorious. No matter what form I take... The End comes for you all!"
Ngl, this line. This freaking line. It perfectly encompasses how an Eldritch Abomination that represents the end of all things might think. And I still suspect that she... They... It isn't dead. Like it said, you may destroy this incarnation, but the End comes for All. It's probably one of the few cases besides Eggman that we might get a recurring villain, but still left on a satisfying enough note that if It weren't to appear again, it wouldn't hurt.
I'll admit it's a good speech, but the fact that The End felt the need to say all of that begs the question: If Sonic's so insignificant next to The End, then why is it going through all the trouble of monologuing to tell Sonic how insignificant Sonic is? If Sonic were *really* that insignificant, then I figure it wouldn't even bother talking to Sonic at all.
@longWriter because The End knows. To anyone else The End is world ending threat that would be considered a near impossible adversary to defeat. To Sonic? Tuesday, just another foe to fight….Geeze Sonic joining Kirby in the “I kill Eldritch abominations club”?
SO WE HAVE ABOUT 23 HOURS BEFORE THIS MOON COMES CRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRASHING INTO US WITH ITS SPACE PISS. I SUGGEST WE GET OUT OF ITS SIGHT BEFORE IT GETS MORE PISSED OFF.
"I AM INFINITE. I AM NOTHING." NGL, I laughed when it said that, I know it is supposed to be a hard quote, but I couldn't help but imagine it as a roast towards Infinite, who's indeed nothing
If only his potential wasn’t wasted. Even though he had bad writing, I still consider him my favorite villain. He has such an awesome design and sega had to write him even worse with the I AM NOT WEEEAAAKK!
According to Kishimoto, the true/physical appearance of the final boss hasn’t been revealed because it depends on how each one perceives what death would look like. Sonic, Sage, and we see different things. Just to clarify, we see the entity as the moon since the symbol of death is typically the moon in fiction. We never know what Sonic and Sage see.
Sage sees a frustrated programmer who just got fired and ready to delete her code That or a kid with a really strong magnet running through a server room
@@thefudgway maybe it could represent no life? We know sonic deeply cares for the freedom of life and to life,the moon being uninhabitable and the many tried destructions of planets in Sonic's world must be tough and scary for a lot of people.he never wants anyone else to go through that do he protects people
Fun Fact: Sage has the same voice actress as Rei from Evangelion in Japanese AND English. And with how this final boss ended and what the titans are, I don't think the casting choice was a coincidence
The End is stagnate. Super Sonic constantly moves at the Speed of Light. The End is a vast darkness. Super Sonic is a single, infinitely bright light. The End is an immortal being. Super Sonic represents the best of mortality. The End, is despair. Super Sonic, is _hope._ I truly believe, all of Sonic's fights, have been preparing him for _this_ moment, and this song represents Sonic's sobering realization that this, is the thing he's always been racing toward.
The end was a crafty one It first trapped Eggman in cyberspace to make sure he didn’t pull anything or blab about it. It took hostages and made Sage look like the culprit to propel Sonic into action. Sage hates Sonic as she was made by Eggman, so she’d never spill the beans. The corruption would have killed Sonic right after he unwittingly freed it. The End was pretty sure of itself, but it’s knowledge probably meant it saw Sonic taking on impossible odds before, so while it was sure it could kill Sonic based on its calculations, it would dispose of him in a sneaky manner to try and not fight him at all to not risk it. Sage’s change of heart was literally the only thing it couldn’t control or predict.
You got a part wrong. Sage was the one who locked away Amy, Tails, and Knuckles. When you speak to her in one of the optional talks on the last island, she says she put them there for their own safety.
@@Prinzherbert in other words, The End’s mind was trapped and freed. Basically it inhabits shells to act and just let Sonic have this win to become unknown again. Sure they know about it now, but they think it’s dead. It’ll get a better body and try again when the time is right. That’s honestly scary.
@@pootissandvichhere9135 I strongly believe that Solaris and Dark Gaia are actually incarnations of The End and it is going to be an ever returning villain in the Sonic games.
@@pootissandvichhere9135 Well, it's says that it is infinite, so technically even they destroy their physical form, it still exist and maybe can take a new form to come back later
From a story perspective, it's epic how you're battling the literal end of an ancient civilization that once harnessed the Chaos Emeralds, using the power of their own final mech combined with Super Sonic and Sage, avenging the lives of many whose tales you witnessed in flashbacks. Their deaths were tragic and needless. From a gameplay perspective, it's a giant space rock with Ikaruga sprinkled on top.
@@Alt_Reflect I agree, they should’ve one upped the insanity, and maybe would’ve nodded to Sin and Punishment instead, having you use the moveset you already have to deflect the attacks because the thing is truly invincible to Super Sonic. It woulda been better if you were given way more rings, but it smacks them out of you if it hits you.
“My captors bent time and space. My captors built a whole reality to contain me. My captors burn their souls away to fuel their engines. And you? You glitter. You fly about me like a gnat.”
"I saw your mind as you ran through my prison. You have fought machines and gods. They were mighty. They were finite. I am infinite. I am nothing." Such a chilling monologue.
Amen to that. I would’ve dismissed this speech as the bluster of a diminished abomination, but since Sonic canonically remembers that 06 happened, this means that The End was remarkably unshaken by the existence of either Solaris (an omnipresent fourth-dimensional time god) or the Egg Salamander and Egg Wizard from the Rush games (a pair of Eggman-Eggman Nega collaboration robots that each commanded the Power of the Stars, a primordial cosmic force that maintains the entire Sonic multiverse by its raw power), which took several Super forms working together to beat and it was still ridiculously close to total defeat.
@@gas9360 Dialogue between Sonic and Silver in… forget if it was Rivals 2 or Team Racing. Sonic was talking with Silver, who’s been presented as a meek dork presently after being a hot-blooded dork back in 06, and reminiscing about how they first met back in that game. Mainly how Silver was spouting off about how he’d kill Sonic to save his future back when they first met. Silver just goes something like “I’m sorry? I don’t recall that happening or what you’re referring to in general” while Sonic shrugs off the dismissal. There’s a link to it somewhere on Modern Sonic’s VS Battles page.
Y’know, some people didn’t like this boss’s gameplay but I find the “hey let’s take this silly minigame’s mechanics and turn them into something heavily plot relevant” very clever. It’s like “hey, all those skills you gained from this seemingly innocuous game thing? Use them to beat the final boss.” It’s like a game design Chekhov’s Gun.
That's like saying it'd be clever if the final boss was pinball because pinball was introduced earlier in the game. In any case, I think it's more that the final boss's identity sucks in general. It's a faceless menace, which would be neat if LITERALLY ANYONE CARED BUT THEY DON'T. Sonic and co NEVER ponder what this thing is and why it wanted to wipe out a civilization. They just accept their victory and move on without even one philosophical question of what they fought even was. If the characters don't care, why would the general audience care?
@@Luiszerep I think this isn't supposed to be the typical Sonic game climax where the real big bad shows up and is promptly, climactically defeated. It's more like a teaser for a new big bad in the future. This is just supposed to be a temporary vessel and the real threat is far in the future. I bet Frontiers 2 already has plans to expand on it. But you still get the climax of a world-ending threat and Sage's character arc finishing. I think they hid this in hard mode specifically because it's not meant to be the de-facto ending, just something for those who didn't find Giganto's boss fight climactic enough.
@@OccuredJakub12 If this is supposed to be a future threat, then why not have any characters show concern or curiosity towards it? Again, nobody in the game seems to care about the who or why of this new enemy, so it makes it easy for the audience to not care either. I think most get that this was supposed to be a more quiet and possibly symbolic climax, but there's no denying the execution is a bit iffy since no one can agree if this final boss is good or bad.
I mean it is possible. I hope they will bring THE END as the new Main Villain to the Sonic Series. As it said it is immortal and cannot be eliminated NO MATTER WHICH FORM IT WILL TAKE. It is absolute so it will be reborn. Solaris and Dark Gaia might be some incarnations of The End but because of the Phantom Ruby maybe it could be finally back by itself tricking Sonic to free him so Sonic had to defeat the Titans to bring THE END back. It is basically the Destruction, the Main Evil Incarnate. In my opinion it would so awesome if Eggman now becomes a good Guy or at least a Rival Like Shadow (Probably a Rival to still have a reason why Eggman will be still a Boss in Sonic Games) and they had to prepared for the next Comeback of THE END. Making THE END the true Main Villain of the Sonic Series. It really is like a Kirby Plot.
@@noventaporcento Meeh I still do not want that Eggman dies because he is one of the Main Characters of the Sonic Series and also one of my favorite Characters. It would not make sense to kill him. He is and will ever be an Enemy from Sonic but in the next Games not as a Villain only as a Rival who still fights together with Sonic. Like Shadow as I said.
"You don't kill something as powerful as the incarnation of order and nothingness that easily." Unless you happen to be a small, pink puffball named 'Kirby', that is.
I often just call this song THE END, rightfully so because unlike I’m With You that has a sense of comfort and return… THE END is straight up a final act to save the ancients and the koco.
I just realized, The End is the embodiment of death itself, the end comes to us all, Sonic is facing death and even then he is still fighting like it's just another day.
He's probably scared out of his mind of what'll happen if he fails, but he keeps going because failure is not an option and that he has to win right here, right now. Courage is not the absence of fear; it's the will and the drive to keep moving forward despite being terrified of everything around you.
@@thegamerator10 That "keep moving forward" itself was a three words that *give so many peoples out there willpower ✊ and drive* to moving on despite *feeling terrified of everything 😨 around them* right then...
Perhaps not even death, but the sense of self-defeat, the renunciation of hope. An end occurs even in life when a person "gives up" - one sees it in several living people who just waste their days away doing nothing with or for their fellow creatures. It's how whole civilizations have fallen. Perhaps it's how The Ancients fell - got too confident, too cocky, too comfy, forgetting that every day is worth preserving and protecting what we and all have, and not just that: celebrating all our creations, hobbies, and social times. Sonic never gives up on hope.
I believe THE END is Sonic’s biggest threat he’s ever faced and it can’t go greater. Yes Dark Gaia split the planet apart… yes Solaris almost erased the entire Space Time Rift… but THE END speaks for itself. Its a moon… a planet that will come for us all in the end… and annihilate the entire human race
@@shrobbyy Yeah that's fair. It was definitely a letdown compared to the spectacle of the first 3 titans, but something about the the fight still worked for me idk
When the Kirby games do a gameplay shift for the final boss, it's normally a gameplay mode that hasn't been used ingame before (Like 02, or Star Allies), but here, it's kinda lame that we just get one of the minigames reused
Considering The End said "You strike this _incarnation_ with all your might", I am not entirely convinced that Sonic and Sage truly managed to kill it. They perhaps managed to take it out of commission for a while, but I doubt this will be the last we have heard of it. The scope of what it is responsible for and how many questions still linger around would be too much of a waste to leave like this.
This thing was on par, hell even stronger then any of the other Sonic final bosses we've faced, Chaos was the forgotten memory of the Ancients, Dark Gaia was the embodiment of destruction, Time Eater just bent Time and Space at will, The End is the destroyer of the universe
Something like The End going down on like that? Nope, I don't see this being the last of The End. Its going to take a lot more than that to finish it off
That monologue was was ice cold pure evil incarnate it didn’t even mind if we defeated its current incarnation. I’m so curious to learn more about this deity, Sage stated that it wasn’t in its true form and the deity stated it had many forms and defeating it means nothing. This might be the scariest and strongest sonic game boss to date. God bosses just hit different lol
I'm Honeslty down when u heard defeated it means nothing I was like oh shit that's the line for the sequel 😭😭😭but again looking back this boss was so much fun mad that it was in the little hacking gameplay but just hearing the music and the two characters talk to each other when the beat drops is insane yes ima nerd
Dark Gaia: What am I? Chopped liver? The End: Ironically. Infinite: And me? The End: Naught more than an atom to a universe compared to me. If this boss reappears, oh boy. Sign me up, getting myself a copy of the game.
*"He took your home world! He took your lives! Are you going to let him do it all over again?! I need your help! We can end this! Please!"* The build up to this fight and the music was just so damn good!
@@Pufftarot Wouldn't be the first time! It felt like it was passable in Unleashed due to the Werehog form being… elastic-y. Possibly a bit much in Sonic 2 and 3 just being able to land safe and sound on the wings of a plane. This time though, it rather felt like a subtle dig at Shadow's supposed death in SA2. Like, what sort of Ultimate Life Form are you if you can't just hop and skip away from a planetary crash landing!?
"He took your home world. He took your lives! Are you really gonna let him do is ALL over again?! I need your help. We can end this! Please!" That immediately gave me chills.
@@KingK1421 i think it was for the titans of the past when they were fighting the end. I feel like it would have been better if the cutscene glitched between sonic and sage flying towards the end and the titans flying towards their fallen comrade
I love how after the end says: "My captors bent time and space. My captors built a whole reality to contain me. My captors burnt their souls away to fuel their engines. *And you?* " The music swells up. It really makes this battle feel so much more intense. Overall, the battle is great! This seems to just be one incarnation of this entity, so I wonder if we will see more forms of it someday.
"You glitter. You fly about me like a *gnat.* You strike this incarnation with all your might -- it changes nothing. You are not brave! You are not victorious!" It was talking a lot of smack for someone within ramming distance of Super Sonic's face...it really should have known better.
@@iancomtois9832 When you think about it, The End should've thought a little longer on that thought. "My captors bent time and space. My captors built a whole reality to contain me. My captors burnt their souls away to fuel their engines, and you?" ... Did none of that. You didn't NEED to bend reality, you didn't NEED to contain me, you DIDN'T NEED to burn your soul, or fuel your machines... you just did it... alone, for no reason other than ignorance, or stupidity, or recklessness, or whatever reason I can come up with... and yet you are standing here, facing me to the same ability as my captors without needing to make ANY sacrifices... I may be inevitable... but this... probably wasn't a good idea.
@@KingTaltia Even so, if it came down to it, I believe Sonic would be more than willing to burn his life away if it meant saving lives. Hell, we see that in the game already, taking the data corruption to the point he's basically dead (until the Power of Friendship(TM) saves the day).
honestly with this song you feel like it is already the end of the game regardless if the final boss it’s just a giant meteor, it gives that feelings, a message from the creators: ¨Thank you for accompanying Sonic on this adventure. We’ve worked really hard to lift the name sonic up to the top. And I, the player with one eye tearing up, i must say: thank you” Normally most final bosses themes are made of super badass songs; but this one is quite differently. What do you think ?
I think much the same, and there isn't much I can add to enhance what you have already said. That being said a guy can try. The melancholy and atmosphere this absolute ripper of a tune bring to the table is nothing short of empowering. I might have died once or twice, but making my way through this final frontier and analyzing the obstacles ahead of me, before letting my charged energy rip was an intuitive and instinctual feeling. Everything felt like it was coming to a natural and ceremonious end and it was up to me- us, no EVERYONE who worked their way up to this point to carry it on home!
@@jettvalen7326 As a person who managed to beat The End in one try, this music definitely was made for that sorta experience instead of having to listen to it for 20 minutes because the player keeps dying, lol. The way the fight ends with Super Sonic flying through space like a comet with the beautiful piano and pad in the background really hit different for me. Was playing this at 1AM and seeing that made me tear up at least somewhat. The whole ending sequence was wonderful, and this music vastly improved it. Thank you, Tomoya Ohtani. Such a beautiful ending, even if it was a bit lackluster gameplay wise, lol. I hope they manage to create a truly amazing final boss for the next one, while still keeping the spectacle that this one had. Wishing everyone at Sonic Team good luck in the future. They've finally made it. 🤟
I agree, this one final boss gameplay wise might have been dissapointing to most people, the expectaction made it seem that something of the caliber of all the other Titan bosses (or even better) was coming, just to get something almost completely opposite. But to me it does perfectly it's job, the first time i got here it was just magical, the atmosphere, the monologue, THE MUSIC, it gives the impression that everything will come to a conclusion here, that this is just the last step to put an end to everything that has happened in the past to the now centuries old extinted race the Ancients and to let it all go. And instead of the usual flashy fight and high-energy/motivational soundtrack that every game (or even this one) had, there is a soothing piano playing throughout the entire sequence and accompanying the whole scenery, which, in my opinion, makes it all the more beautiful, it's different? Yes; It gives kind of different feelings? Yes; It made the boss disappointing? Maybe; But wasn't it pleasing and delightful? to me, it was definitely in my eyes. We may be in the minority when it comes to appreciating this boss, but I'm glad there are others who understand the message Sonic Team was attempting to convey with this one and can enjoy it as much as I did the first time I reached this part.
@@KapitanPazur1 look dude, if this game doesn't scream "we tried" then nothing will impress you. Effort and execution aren't always so perfectly tied as we might think.
After seeing the update 3 final fight and ending, I thought it was good, but.... I actually prefer how bitter sweet this final fight and ending was. The way Sage sacrificed herself and Eggman feeling sad that his daughter died (until he brought her back after credits), his "that's my girl ". Sure, it's not exactly what people wanted, but it was an intense af thing in a Sonic game, a bullet hell final battle. Funny how people forgotten that Rush Adventure ended the same way.
Yeah, and Rush Adventure had us going up against a boss that was probably just as powerful as this boss, because the Egg Wizard wielded the jeweled scepter that was at the moment channeling the ancient primordial energy known as the Power of the Stars…
As Nier Automata is my favourite work of fiction ever, and the ending is exactly like Sonic Frontiers… this was part of the reason why I called this my GOTY of 2022. No joke. THIS was how you did a series comeback and how you perfected a game for newer generations that people liked. Aside from minor issues, I actually thought OG Frontiers was a perfect new stepping stone for Sonic and I seriously am hoping Sega will continue this amazing formula.
This is one of my favorite closing themes to a sonic game that I've ever heard I'm used to this final boss fights being about being on the edge or facing impossible odds But all I feel from this song is the pure vibe of...Hope. This is the song of hope. It just makes you want to get up and run, full speed ahead , regardless of what's around the next corner What a fucking masterpiece
Sonic Frontiers is a masterpiece and easily my third favourite Sonic game (only losing to Gens and Sonic 2) as this title knew what it wanted to be. Despite its short comings… everything Sonic Frontiers had worked. Compelling characters, a mysterious story, amazing music, godtier bosses, and controls that felt responsive and tight. Despite Cyber Space, some of the islands, a few graphical issues, and lack of replayability… this game made me feel different. It made me feel hope and happiness once again for the Hedgehog and I can see myself coming back to this game again and again in the future. It truly is spectacular… and a true *masterpiece*
@@YamuBasalt I highly suggest you look up videos of Touhou, Specifically Legacy of a lunatic kingdom as its widely agreed as the hardest in the series, since one boss literally reverses your controls.
This song is the culmination of all three music styles the game uses. The charming, yet melancholy edm/techno sounds of cyberspace start the song off. It's joined by the energetic, high intensity, motivational sounds of drums, heavy metal guitars and bass that was featured during the titan battles. And the backbone of the whole track, is the triumphant, orchestral string instruments found in the open zone stages, that come in to support the whole song and give it structure. The song also manages to convey a wide emotional range, without uttering a word. Sadness, triumph, heroics, loss, regret, joy, excitement, wonder, calm, focus, fear, strength. All contained within this track. And to top it all off, no matter when you die during the song, it will always perfectly loop itself back to the start seamlessly, without sounding odd or mismatched. It does not matter if you died during the mellow opening, the high intensity middle, or the calm comedown of the final portion. As soon as the song starts from the beginning, it never feels like it interrupted itself. It's a difficult task to compose a piece that manages to wrap up the themes and experiences of whole adventure. But this track knocks it out of the park. It is the perfect final boss theme
I'm gonna be real, as someone who also loves games like Kirby and NieR, seeing Frontiers do that same approach of "now for something completely different", for the final boss no less, and having it be a goddamn Ikaruga homage?? Sonic Team was personally after my own heart there. I get some people being disappointed, I get if the gameplay shift might filter some players, but good lord, dude... this got *me* good. Rock on, Sonic Team!
Now after the dlc, the new battle might have been better gameplay wise but this one was superior at narrative level, also the original had a pretty good atmosphere as well.
Both final battles are good This one for narrative level and emotional weight. Meanwhile Final Horizon's one is good on gameplay and climatic atmosphere. If you ask me which one of both final bosses could be the canon line, this one is my opinion.
I love the melancholic and hopeless atmosphere of the original ending It would be the perfect ending for me if both Supreme and THE END had a boss battle worthy of being the final bosses of the game
Agreed one hundred percent, there is no feeling of stakes in the New Horizon story path, I missed how even with Super Sonic and a Titan teaming up there was no assurances that Sage and Sonic were gonna be able to defeat this primal eldritch horror and made her suicide run on it at the moment of truth hit harder.
I actually preferred OG’s final boss any day over the dlc. OG’s was hard and a little disappointing… but I actually loved the sense of challenge and overcoming it just felt awesome. Final Horizon’s I find despite how amazing it was cinematography wise… it was so unfair and never gave any explanation or context clues as to what to do.
I think the vocal version suggests there's an even deeper meaning to this version of the song. The vocal version describes how glad sage is that she can finally go come home to a family of her own. This version only plays in the timeline where that doesn't initially happen, so it's more her wishing she could stay with eggman forever but can't. It's kind of sad when you think about it.
Something about this theme just breaks me. It literally sounds like the end. But the end of what? The game? The story? A chapter in life? Fond experiences? Memories? Life? It seems like all of those and more. The emotions of this song can be depicted with anything; all those things that eventually passed. A bittersweet memory of something that once was. Something still inside but only as a warm flickering. The transiency of things. This theme is the end. And it breaks me.
1:42 and 2:33 is the best part of the music. One of the greatest. I already beaten the whole game and finish it. Now I'm really glad I didn't see those unrelease leaks. @Mia Datenshi
The end of Sonic’s decay, and the beginning of its new chapter. Honestly between how one way dream was said to be Sonic team’s attitude towards the series now, and the fact that the end was telling Sonic how everything he did was nothing in face of his inevitable end but refusing to give up, is honestly a really cool allegory for the history of Sonic itself. Despite criticism and overwhelming odds it refused to give up and now a new chapter has begun. The end will come back it will always incarnate just as there will always be detractors and haters, but both Sonic and his creators will refuse to give up
If this were the final Sonic game I'd be satisfied. This game really fixed all of the damage they did to the Sonic characters over the last 10+ years. And despite it's flaws, it was an amazing and emotional experience.
@@kaz101 I doubt it is. Sonic is too iconic for them to just stop making games. But like you said if it was the final game, I'd be satisfied with how it ended
@@kaz101 Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if this is the latest sonic game we've yet had in a chronological sense. The cast just feels... older in this game, comparatively speaking. Maybe it's the change in VAs.
@@firewolfkanji1795 Shit. Holy shit, you're right. This thing is basically Nyx, but even more incomprehensible. Because at least Nyx wasn't malevolent. The End? Not so much.
@@tomlynmathewsjr7514 the Japanese dialogue would suggests the The End is neither good or evil and is actually turning towards understanding in the final moments of the fight
I don't know why, but seeing Super Sonic soar across the infinite void of space as the last glimmer of hope for Earth and the Ancients to 7:00 makes me a bit emotional.
@I am 40 1) Space is waaaay bigger than people think. The distance of moon to the earth is 200+ thousand miles, or 300+ thousand kilometers. If Sonic wanted to build up speed, he would have it. 2) The point of the shot is more as a response to one of The End's taunts. "What can one mote of golden light illuminate within the abyss?" Because as the shot shows, *all* it takes is one mote of golden light to shine into the abyss. At that moment, Sonic represents everyone's hopes. -His friends hopes of their own future adventures and growth -The Ancients hope to protect this new world they came to call home -Sage's hope to protect her newly realized family. -Eggman's hope of living up to Gerald's genius and accomplishments. -Hell, you could even add in Sonic Team and its fans hope for the future success of the franchise Even if the shot doesn't make much sense, the spectacle and potential meaning behind it more than make up for it, I think.
Maybe I’m just easy to please but after finding the Supreme Titan kinda “whelming” as a final boss I REALLY loved the true hard mode-only final boss. Just the sheer insanity of Sonic Team going the full 9 yards for an Ikaruga shoutout had me stunned, and The End having some of the coolest lines in the series while you weave between shots kept me in that bewildered hype state. Not at all what I expected from this game’s final boss, both the fight and the music and I love both of them.
@@GuardianOfDandelions oh dang didn't know that'd effect it, brilliant thanks!! (But also yeah I might just go through it all again on Hard for the fun of it anyway haha)
This song gives a sense of hope in trying circumstances. I've been battling anxiety and depression for several years. I've heard so many songs that give me a sense of healing, but this one is incredible. Thank you Sega for such a wonderful song. Can't wait to play this game and to listen to this song!
You know maybe that was the whole point? Othani san said that One way dream was a song with a message from all of Sonic Team. So.maybe the final boss was somehow the same. Sonic Team was really trying really hard to pull of something not giving up Even if things looked pretty bad . And they pulled it off at the end . I dunno it really feels like that
bro, me too, i have anxiety and it's a fucking hell, but with hope, passion, and friends, everything is posible, you're not alone (srry for my bad english i'm spanish)
One of the reasons why this song hits hard for me, what made me cry as my first time with this boss, as it ridicules you for your efforts. This song is nothing but Sorrow. But also Hope. For all of those that died, to the embodiment of death, The End. The inevitable. But hope is what keeps us alive and keep moving forward, to keep fighting the uphill battle. Giving it all you got till the very end. Thank you so much Sonic team for such a great built up.
At first, I was kind of upset that the final boss was basically a bullet hell shooter. But...honestly this fits. Hearing this THING trash talk you the whole time during this actually difficult final boss, death after death, you actually begin to appreciate this boss for what it truly is. It's like an acquired taste...this was a brilliant final boss.
Oh man, I 100% felt the same way, but it’s also kind of genius. Since it’s not a Super Sonic fight, it ENSURES that everyone has the same level of difficulty, no matter how much you leveled up in the game. (At least I think your attack level doesn’t effect your damage output in the final boss.) I thought at first it was a super weird direction to take the final boss, but after my 5th death, I was like, “Ok, never mind, this is actually hard.” For reference, I beat all the Titan battles first try, so I think this honestly was a more satisfying final boss in terms of difficulty. And besides, we already had our epic Super Sonic final boss with “Supreme”. So getting a tougher final boss along with extra dialogue from “The End” honestly was super cool. (Especially when “The End” finishes their monologue and the music raises in volume. That part is always awesome.)
Yeah I was really upset about the whole final boss thing. I'm 100% feel the same way. Every time I keep mashing L and R buttons during the final boss by shooting a bullet, my hands gets really tired.
Willing to admit this boss served my cheeks on a plate twice 😅 It's brilliant to see the Sonic Franchise get the much needed love it deserves! I'm glad I've stuck with it through the good times and the bad times. The Sonic Team and Sega deserve this win
Personally I really adore how this isn't just another Super Sonic fight. It emphasizes how this isn't really Sonic's moment, it's a moment focused on putting to rest all of the Ancients' loss and suffering and especially... It's Sage's moment, it's the cap to her story and so controlling the Ancients' final mech controlled by Sage cannot be more fitting. Now, did it really have to be a bullet hell though?... No... but I'm not complaining
I think The End should have kept the shooter part of the boss but have a second phase where you play as the titans and you have to fly around in space, getting access to its full moveset. Maybe each titan would get defeated by the end one by one and you have to switch to the next one each time, until you get control of supreme and deliver the final blow. So basically playing as Sage controlling the titans, with gameplay similar to Super Sonic's.
@@FirestoneAnimation in this fight it is. I think he’s supposed to be flying by her side or on top, we just can’t see him cuz he’s so small, but in the shooter minigames, idk what it is. Maybe super sonic?
I wonder if this theme was composed with Hyper Sonic in mind? For context, the writer of the game confirmed that, originally, Sonic was supposed to fight The End as Hyper Sonic, but SEGA doesn’t want Sonic to achieve different forms to become more powerful like Goku does in Dragon Ball Z.
it was never confirmed that sonic was supposed to fight the end as hyper sonic. word for word, ian flynn suggested bringing back hyper sonic because they were treating the end as the next powerful entity, but like you said, they dont want Sonic to be DBZ which is for the better honestly
this game...its about a weird blue hedgehog...its a weird blue hedgehog...and this damn weird blue hedgehog actually got me to feel emotions. This is a strange new world were living in.
I hope this eldritch death rock is the new Dark Matter/Zero of Sonic; a constant threat even when you don't see it, he said it herself, strike this Incarnation down and nothing changes you only delayed the inevitable, "The End comes for you all!"
the eldritch death rock is actually the perception of death to whoever is viewing it. It takes the appearance of a moon ingame cause Sonic would perceive death as a dead planet
"No matter what form I take... The End comes for you all. This boss makes me think so much. I don't think it's a thing, or a single thing, or many things. it's not evil that is trying to destroy everything. it's the natural order of existence. this whole story leads me to believe that the ancients have been around for a very very very very VERY long time. their time was up. it was time for their End. and obviously no one wants the end to happen so we try to prevent it as much as we can. thousands upon thousands of years from now when the sun of our solar system dies, the humans on earth will be faced with this scenario. Our End. As humans we'll of obviously try everything in our power to prevent our demise from happening because we have so much love, sorrow, hopes, history and dreams for the future.. If we're gone, everything is gone. we won't be remembered. We would probably do the same thing the ancients did. because it's a terrifying thought. That''s why this boss hits so hard for me. Sonic may have defeated this incarnation. But that doesn't change anything, it will return one day. It may not be now, it may not be tomorrow. But eventually, The End come's for us all.
There’s no value on our existence, save what we define for ourselves. No higher power or force of nature can hope to match the human mind, so to maintain it, we rage, rage against the dying of the light.
There is something about 2:57 - 4:27 that leaves me feeling things. This song left me in awe as I took it all in. And this specific part reached something that I feel. This song means so much to me.
The monolog The End gave goes hard for no reason. I love it! But I also hope we get to see them as the villain for the games again. The End adds so much lore to the Sonic series. And the fact that there's a hint of it having more than one form is seriously giving me Darkseid vibes.
I mean it is possible. I hope they will bring THE END as the new Main Villain to the Sonic Series. As it said it is immortal and cannot be eliminated NO MATTER WHICH FORM IT WILL TAKE. It is absolute so it will be reborn. Solaris and Dark Gaia might be some incarnations of The End but because of the Phantom Ruby maybe it could be finally back by itself tricking Sonic to free him so Sonic had to defeat the Titans to bring THE END back. It is basically the Destruction, the Main Evil Incarnate. In my opinion it would so awesome if Eggman now becomes a good Guy or at least a Rival Like Shadow (Probably a Rival to still have a reason why Eggman will be still a Boss in Sonic Games) and they had to prepared for the next Comeback of THE END. Making THE END the true Main Villain of the Sonic Series. It really is like a Kirby Plot.
The end thought it was UNDEAFTABLE. it thought it could BREAK THROUGH IT ALL. but it didn't expect the forces against it to FIND THEIR FLAME. And now THEIR HERE to set things right.
Hearing this while listening to "the end" speak throughout really got me thinking about how Sonic and us have gone through so much in each game. This game's story is so fucking incredible and I loved every single minute I had playing this game.
This theme got me. Hits all the right notes for The End, and I’m still surprised how Outstanding Sonic Frontiers was. A solid change of pace, and I hope they continue this style going forward potentially branching out to other playable characters with refined move sets like Sonic.
Fun Fact: This was a scrapped first Titan boss theme! The themes were originally going to be much more emotional sounding but were changed to be sung by Kellin Quinn for more loud, screamo type, metal sounding theme.
@@Uvigamers I did hear this on Twitter, and I’m pretty sure they proved it with an image with one of the people who worked on it talking about it or something. I can’t remember the person who made the tweet unfortunately, but it is pretty much true.
@@Arichson me too! I do prefer the much heavier and metal-like stuff, but it’d be cool to see what the soundtrack, and what the OTHER songs would’ve been like in this kind of music genre
Genuinely such an emotional and beautiful moment. When it zooms out and you see Super Sonic like a shooting star of hope throughout the sky, really hit me. I've been a Sonic fan for over a decade, the games were my comfort throughout my teenage years and Frontiers for me was a letter of love for the fans. The game isn't flawless but I had so much fun and I enjoyed the story like I use to all those years ago.
I'm a grown man and this seriously made me cry. Was lucky enough to beat The End the first time of asking. What an amazing finale to a phenomenal game. Thank you Sonic for always being with me, through thick and thin ❤️
The End's monologue (credit to GamerBlade84 and Charisma Entertainer for quoting it for me) taking the entire fight was just. MMMM I love it so much! This music which plays alongside the monologue fit it perfectly as well: an ancient unstoppable creature who was made overconfident based on past exploits, and is unable to understand why Sonic insists on fighting despite everything, not able to comprehend the brilliance known as willpower. So hearing it play while The End is trying and failing to understand why anyone would insist on the uselessness of fighting when there is no hope is just BEAUTIFUL. On that, the music is hollow and simultaneously empowering. A perfect embodiment of what this fight represents. Fights like these, the embodiments of hope in the face of hopelessness, are the pinnacle of flawless storytelling. These are demonstrations of the impossible power of will. A power we humans in real life possess. Additionally, these two characters are blatant opposites, made even more clear by how Sonic (alongside Sage and the spirits of the Ancients) is wordlessly destroying this ancient creature who is spending the fight monologing. This is a creature who does not understand the soul. It would rather endlessly devour with no satisfaction. Sonic himself understands this, as the intro dialogue to the fight shows. "He took your home world! He took your lives! Are you going to let him do it all over again? I need your help! We can end this! Please!" Lastly, it's even better how all this was built up throughout the game, most especially in the case of this particular exchange between Sonic and Sage: "You're always talking about odds and simulations, but we living beings don't live by calculations. The will to live, the drive to achieve, the desire to protect the ones you love - That kind of thing can grant a power you can't imagine." - Sonic The Hedgehog. The power of Ian Flynn as a writer, everyone.
That last quote really showed how Sonic feels about the world. He knows how dire the situation is, he knows knows that is at stake but also knows that he can't give up because if he gives up, if he backs down its over for everyone. He represents everyone's hope so he has to not doubt himself.
I discovered something embarrassingly late. Sage is using her color palette as the Light and Dark shots while the Golden Burst (Gonna call that multishot attack) is Sonics super attack. Edit: I keep coming back to this and the more I did, the more I felt afraid of The End than other godly beasts like Solaris, existing in the past, present and future simultaneously, or Time Eater, consumer of timelines. Something about The End just felt all the more terrifying than those.
It's because the End is intelligent and communicates with Sonic/the player. It voices its intent to destroy or consume. There's no mistaking it for something all-powerful, but unknowing.
Once you understand frontiers lore it is clear that the end is truly a being like no other. For Solaris and time eater, all it took was more than 1 super form which is a HUGE feat but the fact that the end was shown to wipe out a race that was a type 2 civilization is incredible but I guess Solaris could've done that. But the fact they needed not a place but a whole dimension to contain THE END and it could still filter trough to talk to sonic means it was basically plotting everything long long before it happened. THE END could never be fully contained and according to sage not even super sonic would be able to stop it. The end is literally nothing, it is the existence of the void. It's very existence is impossible. And even while weakened and not fully restored, the end could still kill super sonic and Supreme at the same time which can block it's laser. The end can also never be destroyed as it will just take a new form and begin the cycle again.
I fucking love this theme and the monologue that accompanies it. A surprisingly unique vibe for a Sonic finale. I cant help but love it even if I understand why it wasnt popular.
Very few songs have ever made me this emotional before, i can feel the raw emotion signifying ‘The end’ in most other tracks but they pale in comparison to the emotion and symbolism this conveys
You know all the other bosses before this one were super hard rock music but the final boss being less intense even hopeful piano music with the exception of a little guitar in there is really beautiful to me like symbolizing the end of your journey
Really wish it had a second form wasn't really a fan of the space invader stuff i was hoping for another chance to play super sonic... the QTE doesn't count
Not alot of people saw that this fight was deeper than we think Sage is a Sega and Sage fought for Sonic not to meet his end. Sega fought for their franchise not to die
@@awesomeocelot7475 I found out that it was used for the combat trailer but I haven’t seen anything about it being used for the first boss battle originally. Was it revealed somewhere else?
The End has been living rent free in my head ever since I finished this game. I can't stop thinking about it and its implications to the universe it's in. Hear me out on this. We can presume that The End is a primordial force, something that had existed even long before the Ancients came into being. Its sole purpose was to bring ruination to any that it comes across, and that is its role for all time. But there must be something in place to counteract this. If there is only destruction then there's no way for the cycle to continue. Balance has to be struck. If there is a Destructor, then it goes without saying that there should also be a Creator. The existence of The End implies that there also exists its complete antithesis - an entity as powerful as its dark counterpart whose sole purpose is to give life and light to the Universe. What if this entity was the true origin of the Master Emerald? Or better yet.... _....what if this entity of light IS the Master Emerald?_
Far out dude... It does make a lot of sense considering in one of the flashbacks on Rhea Island it shows the Ancients noticing the change in the Chaos Emeralds (which we know is due to the Master Emerald) and that was when they just managed to make their way to Earth (apparently that's what it is to be called). It would only be logical if shortly after landing on Earth they discovered the Master Emerald and via their in depth knowledge of the Chaos Emeralds, manage to use it's abilities to create Cyberspace.
The Japanese version basically spells it out, saying that The End is just a natural force of existence that is attempting to bring order to a universe of chaos, like Galactus. It's the antithesis to chaos, order.
Glad they kept the og ending in tbh it was pretty good love the alternate one aswell but this one is very emotional literally fighting what everyone fears the ineviteable end
I don't care if we didn't get one proper final fight with all the fighting you used throughout the game, this song, the build up, the hard mode only fight, everything The End was saying, it was so damn awesome it doesn't matter if we didn't get a final proper fight with what we learned throughout. The ending especially made up for it even more. Thank you for uploading this and including what The End said, I was pausing the game at times to hear what they were saying, it's awesome to be able to read everything without having to shoot and dodge so much lol
I'd note a key thing about this fight, is that we're playing as Sage, not Sonic. (yes The End is ignoring Sage, but The End might not even be able to properly comprehend an entirely artificial being.)
Gives me massive Sonic Unleashed vibes for some reason - only Dark Gaia was doing its job. This monster just wants to one-up Solaris and consume all. It took everything from Chaos and the Ancients for fun. Man, how cathartic its death is!
I must admit though, I do wish for something that claims to be the end of everything, it would have been more like fighting a black hole than a dinosaur slaying meteor type enemy. Also, scholars must be really jealous of Eggman, it seems every other week he's dug up some ancient godly being to unleash upon the world!
@@ShaimingLong Well he just has to throw Rouge at a general direction and somehow someway she WILL snatch anything valuable that shines lol Plus unlike scholars Eggman doesnt obey a governement so if he wants to make a giant flying fortress drill or smt that digs entire mountains in a few weeks well oops
My thing is did dark Gaia happen after the ancients landed? They had those chaos powered temples for a reason. Dark gaia happens every 1 million years and the ancients came 10-100,000 years ago IIRC.
Sonic's speech gave me serious chills. Say what you will about the execution of the fight itself, but it really drove home that you're not only saving the world, but you're avenging the Ancients and ensuring their deaths weren't in vain by taking down the sadistic cosmic horror that murdered them.
Man Frontiers is just a Experience for fans, I've been growing up with sonic all my life and man this game made feel emotions and goosebumps. Something no other sonic game has done
You know what this song is telling me? Its that no matter what happens or wherever life takes you there is always someone with you, and that someone is yourself.
In mid December last year, I went to Japan alone for a month and a half. I had a playlist with a bunch of songs I'd listen to on the way there, and this was one of the songs in it. It just so happened to be the one playing right I landed, and as I walked into the hotel room at night for the first time. For reference, I had been anticipating this trip for over 9 years prior to this. I then decided to not touch the song for the entire duration I was there, and only listen again when sitting on the flight to leave. And man, did that listen on the runway hit hard. Having to leave after having such a great time, and having accomplished my nearly 10 year long dream, all while listening to this song was something else. I'm glad I didn't give up on the idea after so many years. There are plenty more things to accomplish on the horizon. So if you have some goal you want to achieve, big or small, keep at it. I'm with you.
![Endless Possibility - Sonic Unleashed [OST]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/tJjxKhjR9H4/mqdefault.jpg)
"Mortal, you have served your purpose. Now face your End. I am the all-consuming void. What can one mote of golden light illuminate within the abyss? Countless stars. Countless worlds. Countless lives. All fell to me, all brought to nothing. All the teeming chaos of creation? Brought to order. To neutrality. To nothing. I saw your mind as you ran through my prison. You have fought machines and gods. They were mighty. They were finite. I am Infinite. I am nothing. You struggle as so many have done before. You will be consumed like all those before you. I saw your mind. Your courage never wavered. Why? Arrogance? Ignorance? Stupidity? I was contained once. Once. Is that why? My captors bent time and space. My captors built a whole reality to contain me. My captors burnt their souls away to fuel their engines. And you? You glitter; you fly above me like a gnat. I am inevitable, I cannot be denied. You strike this incarnation with all your might. It changes nothing. You are not brave; you are not victorious. No matter what form I take... The End comes for you all!"
Ngl, this line. This freaking line. It perfectly encompasses how an Eldritch Abomination that represents the end of all things might think. And I still suspect that she... They... It isn't dead. Like it said, you may destroy this incarnation, but the End comes for All. It's probably one of the few cases besides Eggman that we might get a recurring villain, but still left on a satisfying enough note that if It weren't to appear again, it wouldn't hurt.
I'll admit it's a good speech, but the fact that The End felt the need to say all of that begs the question:
If Sonic's so insignificant next to The End, then why is it going through all the trouble of monologuing to tell Sonic how insignificant Sonic is? If Sonic were *really* that insignificant, then I figure it wouldn't even bother talking to Sonic at all.
@@longWriter It's probably saying that for itself. It's probably scared shitless at the fact that Sonic actually has a fighting chance
@longWriter because The End knows. To anyone else The End is world ending threat that would be considered a near impossible adversary to defeat. To Sonic? Tuesday, just another foe to fight….Geeze Sonic joining Kirby in the “I kill Eldritch abominations club”?
@@skytheidiott That computes!
Sonic Adventure 2: I PISSED ON THE MOON
Sonic Frontiers: I PISSED OFF THE MOON
HOW DO YOU LIKE THAT OBAMA?
@@krackers5061 I PISSED OFF THE MOON
@@krackers5061 2022: HOW DO YOU LIKE THAT JOE BIDEN?
SO WE HAVE ABOUT 23 HOURS BEFORE THIS MOON COMES CRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRASHING INTO US WITH ITS SPACE PISS. I SUGGEST WE GET OUT OF ITS SIGHT BEFORE IT GETS MORE PISSED OFF.
2017: my game is the best sonic game yet. 2 hours of full gameplay.
2022: Frontiers is best. 12 hours of full gameplay. Makes Forces look like nothing
Nice to see that Sage is following in her father’s footsteps of delivering grievous harm onto space rocks
SHE'S PISSING ON THE MOOOOOOOOOOOON!
LMAO FR DHBWWQEHQRU
Oh my god this comment is so underrated
Goddamn you caught me off guard brother LOOOL
Like father, like daughter
"I AM INFINITE. I AM NOTHING."
NGL, I laughed when it said that, I know it is supposed to be a hard quote, but I couldn't help but imagine it as a roast towards Infinite, who's indeed nothing
God DAMN!!! Now I can't hear it any other way.
"I am not WEAK!AAAAAAAAARRRGGGHH!!!"
"I am NOTHING!"
When I get kept dying and getting annoyed at this fight, I always replied “AND I AM CRINGE! I AM AN EDGELORD!!!”
Just kidding I love this fight
Infinite The Jackal??
If only his potential wasn’t wasted. Even though he had bad writing, I still consider him my favorite villain. He has such an awesome design and sega had to write him even worse with the I AM NOT WEEEAAAKK!
1991 Final Boss - A guy in a stompy machine
2022 Final Boss - Literally Unicron
Transformers Prime: Approved!
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That’s freaking cool!! Beating the shit out of Unicron
No lol. It’s the literal incarnation of death.
My little brother is gon a laugh hysterically
I like to imagine The End is Pluto taking its revenge for us deciding it's not a planet anymore.
Underrated comment
LOL that's funny!
That time when Pluto has enough of our crap.
Oh no, now’s a time to really panic.
that just made the end so much better for me lmao
According to Kishimoto, the true/physical appearance of the final boss hasn’t been revealed because it depends on how each one perceives what death would look like. Sonic, Sage, and we see different things.
Just to clarify, we see the entity as the moon since the symbol of death is typically the moon in fiction. We never know what Sonic and Sage see.
That's honestly a damn cool detail. I have a new found respect for this boss fight now
The new story dlc coming out next year might use this
Someone theorised that Sonic sees the moon like in the game, because it is meant to be a dead planet, which is what Sonic depicts fear death as.
Sage sees a frustrated programmer who just got fired and ready to delete her code
That or a kid with a really strong magnet running through a server room
@@thefudgway maybe it could represent no life? We know sonic deeply cares for the freedom of life and to life,the moon being uninhabitable and the many tried destructions of planets in Sonic's world must be tough and scary for a lot of people.he never wants anyone else to go through that do he protects people
Never has a rock dissing me sounded more epic.
LMAO
Underrated
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Moon is a better title.
The bad moon rising is the correct name of the boss
Fun Fact: Sage has the same voice actress as Rei from Evangelion in Japanese AND English. And with how this final boss ended and what the titans are, I don't think the casting choice was a coincidence
Matt patt on his way crack up some wacky theory about sonic and evangelion being connected for some reason:
"pilot the eva sonic, or sage will have too"
@@Roto3 Sega did have the game rights to Evangelion a long time ago, so you might not be far off.
Really? Nice choice
Neon Genesis Sonic Frontiers
The End is stagnate. Super Sonic constantly moves at the Speed of Light.
The End is a vast darkness. Super Sonic is a single, infinitely bright light.
The End is an immortal being. Super Sonic represents the best of mortality.
The End, is despair. Super Sonic, is _hope._
I truly believe, all of Sonic's fights, have been preparing him for _this_ moment, and this song represents Sonic's sobering realization that this, is the thing he's always been racing toward.
You mean: Reach the Goal.
You mean: "get to the Billboard"
Hol' up. Let 'im cook.
Brilliantly put, well done 👍
The End is straight up Sonic's antithesis!
The final boss being a MOON on the SAME DAY AS AN ECLIPSE IS INSANELY EPIIIIIIIIC!!
Literally meant to be.
THIS HAPPENED WITH AMPHIBIA
@@The_Blueray HOLY SHIT IT DID??!??!
@@The_Blueray not gonna lie, the final boss reminded me of The Core taking over the moon
Eggman: "I'm not Doing that Reference Again!"
The end was a crafty one
It first trapped Eggman in cyberspace to make sure he didn’t pull anything or blab about it.
It took hostages and made Sage look like the culprit to propel Sonic into action. Sage hates Sonic as she was made by Eggman, so she’d never spill the beans.
The corruption would have killed Sonic right after he unwittingly freed it. The End was pretty sure of itself, but it’s knowledge probably meant it saw Sonic taking on impossible odds before, so while it was sure it could kill Sonic based on its calculations, it would dispose of him in a sneaky manner to try and not fight him at all to not risk it.
Sage’s change of heart was literally the only thing it couldn’t control or predict.
Not just Sage's change of heart, the End seemingly did not calculate what Sonic's friends are willing to do to save him
You got a part wrong. Sage was the one who locked away Amy, Tails, and Knuckles. When you speak to her in one of the optional talks on the last island, she says she put them there for their own safety.
@@Prinzherbert in other words, The End’s mind was trapped and freed. Basically it inhabits shells to act and just let Sonic have this win to become unknown again. Sure they know about it now, but they think it’s dead. It’ll get a better body and try again when the time is right.
That’s honestly scary.
@@pootissandvichhere9135 I strongly believe that Solaris and Dark Gaia are actually incarnations of The End and it is going to be an ever returning villain in the Sonic games.
@@pootissandvichhere9135 Well, it's says that it is infinite, so technically even they destroy their physical form, it still exist and maybe can take a new form to come back later
The piano solo alongside Super Sonic flying like a shooting star was such a beautiful spectacle
Only to comedically face plant into The End if you failed the QTE.
I love that moment so much
I tried not to cry.
I'm so glad we all collectively agree that was awesome
Yeah you rigth
From a story perspective, it's epic how you're battling the literal end of an ancient civilization that once harnessed the Chaos Emeralds, using the power of their own final mech combined with Super Sonic and Sage, avenging the lives of many whose tales you witnessed in flashbacks. Their deaths were tragic and needless.
From a gameplay perspective, it's a giant space rock with Ikaruga sprinkled on top.
They didn’t harness the Emeralds.
They MADE them.
@@pootissandvichhere9135 never stated. The emeralds were USED by them, they didn't even know there was a master emerald
Exactly the issue sadly. Crazy story, really disappointing gameplay. Really threw me off last night.
yep, it sucks imagining how epic and grand the fight could've been if it wasnt a bullet hell
@@Alt_Reflect I agree, they should’ve one upped the insanity, and maybe would’ve nodded to Sin and Punishment instead, having you use the moveset you already have to deflect the attacks because the thing is truly invincible to Super Sonic. It woulda been better if you were given way more rings, but it smacks them out of you if it hits you.
“I saw your mind as you ran through my prison. You have fought machines and gods. They were mighty. They were finite. I am infinite. I am nothing.”
The most fire quote
“Youre not infinite at all! Youre a much better character than him“
“My captors bent time and space. My captors built a whole reality to contain me. My captors burn their souls away to fuel their engines. And you? You glitter. You fly about me like a gnat.”
@@ProfessorHeavy1 "lol stupid moon you can't hit me, you're just a moon. what are you gonna do, piss on me?"
@@ProfessorHeavy1 “You are not brave, you are not victorious. The End comes for you all!”
"I saw your mind as you ran through my prison. You have fought machines and gods. They were mighty. They were finite. I am infinite. I am nothing." Such a chilling monologue.
Amen to that. I would’ve dismissed this speech as the bluster of a diminished abomination, but since Sonic canonically remembers that 06 happened, this means that The End was remarkably unshaken by the existence of either Solaris (an omnipresent fourth-dimensional time god) or the Egg Salamander and Egg Wizard from the Rush games (a pair of Eggman-Eggman Nega collaboration robots that each commanded the Power of the Stars, a primordial cosmic force that maintains the entire Sonic multiverse by its raw power), which took several Super forms working together to beat and it was still ridiculously close to total defeat.
"In a brief moments, it shall remain to you."
@@mayborneflower wait...what said that sonic remembers 06?
@@gas9360 Dialogue between Sonic and Silver in… forget if it was Rivals 2 or Team Racing. Sonic was talking with Silver, who’s been presented as a meek dork presently after being a hot-blooded dork back in 06, and reminiscing about how they first met back in that game. Mainly how Silver was spouting off about how he’d kill Sonic to save his future back when they first met. Silver just goes something like “I’m sorry? I don’t recall that happening or what you’re referring to in general” while Sonic shrugs off the dismissal.
There’s a link to it somewhere on Modern Sonic’s VS Battles page.
"I'm 14 and this is deep"
Considering how epic the Titans looked, it really threw me for a loop when the True Final Boss turned out to be a GIANT ROCK.
and that boss only consist of 3 Quick Times
@@LamBosco Wait, no, it's Ikaruga.
@@LamBosco not on hard mode
Fr
@@LamBosco play it on hard mode
Y’know, some people didn’t like this boss’s gameplay but I find the “hey let’s take this silly minigame’s mechanics and turn them into something heavily plot relevant” very clever. It’s like “hey, all those skills you gained from this seemingly innocuous game thing? Use them to beat the final boss.” It’s like a game design Chekhov’s Gun.
That's like saying it'd be clever if the final boss was pinball because pinball was introduced earlier in the game.
In any case, I think it's more that the final boss's identity sucks in general. It's a faceless menace, which would be neat if LITERALLY ANYONE CARED BUT THEY DON'T. Sonic and co NEVER ponder what this thing is and why it wanted to wipe out a civilization. They just accept their victory and move on without even one philosophical question of what they fought even was. If the characters don't care, why would the general audience care?
@@Luiszerep I think this isn't supposed to be the typical Sonic game climax where the real big bad shows up and is promptly, climactically defeated. It's more like a teaser for a new big bad in the future. This is just supposed to be a temporary vessel and the real threat is far in the future. I bet Frontiers 2 already has plans to expand on it. But you still get the climax of a world-ending threat and Sage's character arc finishing. I think they hid this in hard mode specifically because it's not meant to be the de-facto ending, just something for those who didn't find Giganto's boss fight climactic enough.
Deltarune Chapter 2 did something similar; there's a Punch-Out style mini game early on, only for the final boss to be a Punch-Out/bullet hell hybrid.
@@OccuredJakub12 If this is supposed to be a future threat, then why not have any characters show concern or curiosity towards it? Again, nobody in the game seems to care about the who or why of this new enemy, so it makes it easy for the audience to not care either.
I think most get that this was supposed to be a more quiet and possibly symbolic climax, but there's no denying the execution is a bit iffy since no one can agree if this final boss is good or bad.
@@Luiszerep if the final boss was pinball thatd actually be awesome
The game's only been out for a month and this song already feels nostalgic 😭
Yeah same the boss took me thirty whole minutes because i didn't know you're immunine to the shot you're using
I agree, this song just hits so differently and I can't explain why.
Sonic is 30 now… I mean… that’s a huge number…
2018 vibes
I fully expect The End to come back at some point. You don't kill something as powerful as the incarnation of order and nothingness that easily.
I mean it is possible. I hope they will bring THE END as the new Main Villain to the Sonic Series. As it said it is immortal and cannot be eliminated NO MATTER WHICH FORM IT WILL TAKE. It is absolute so it will be reborn. Solaris and Dark Gaia might be some incarnations of The End but because of the Phantom Ruby maybe it could be finally back by itself tricking Sonic to free him so Sonic had to defeat the Titans to bring THE END back. It is basically the Destruction, the Main Evil Incarnate. In my opinion it would so awesome if Eggman now becomes a good Guy or at least a Rival Like Shadow (Probably a Rival to still have a reason why Eggman will be still a Boss in Sonic Games) and they had to prepared for the next Comeback of THE END. Making THE END the true Main Villain of the Sonic Series. It really is like a Kirby Plot.
@@lookslikenik6931 I'm with you on this one. Eggman could even sacrifice himself like Sage did.
@@noventaporcento Meeh I still do not want that Eggman dies because he is one of the Main Characters of the Sonic Series and also one of my favorite Characters. It would not make sense to kill him. He is and will ever be an Enemy from Sonic but in the next Games not as a Villain only as a Rival who still fights together with Sonic. Like Shadow as I said.
"You don't kill something as powerful as the incarnation of order and nothingness that easily."
Unless you happen to be a small, pink puffball named 'Kirby', that is.
@@fallatiuso Yeah Kirby is basically the strongest being of all known Nintendo Characters
Even if we got a new version of I'm With You, this ones still my favorite. For a bad ending for the game, this song feels really nostalgic.
i fesl like it would be better if they did the old version in the credits. this one"s way more emotional
I often just call this song THE END, rightfully so because unlike I’m With You that has a sense of comfort and return… THE END is straight up a final act to save the ancients and the koco.
I just realized, The End is the embodiment of death itself, the end comes to us all, Sonic is facing death and even then he is still fighting like it's just another day.
He's probably scared out of his mind of what'll happen if he fails, but he keeps going because failure is not an option and that he has to win right here, right now.
Courage is not the absence of fear; it's the will and the drive to keep moving forward despite being terrified of everything around you.
@@thegamerator10
That "keep moving forward" itself was a three words that *give so many peoples out there willpower ✊ and drive* to moving on despite *feeling terrified of everything 😨 around them* right then...
Pretty symbolic how chaos is pretty much life energy while the end is death it self
Perhaps not even death, but the sense of self-defeat, the renunciation of hope. An end occurs even in life when a person "gives up" - one sees it in several living people who just waste their days away doing nothing with or for their fellow creatures. It's how whole civilizations have fallen. Perhaps it's how The Ancients fell - got too confident, too cocky, too comfy, forgetting that every day is worth preserving and protecting what we and all have, and not just that: celebrating all our creations, hobbies, and social times. Sonic never gives up on hope.
I believe THE END is Sonic’s biggest threat he’s ever faced and it can’t go greater. Yes Dark Gaia split the planet apart… yes Solaris almost erased the entire Space Time Rift… but THE END speaks for itself. Its a moon… a planet that will come for us all in the end… and annihilate the entire human race
He took your home world... He took your lives... Are you going to let him do it all over again?! I need your help. We can end this! Please!!
"I'm Here, I'm With You."
I was just about to comment something on this
It's like poetry.
I completely get why people would be thrown off by this as a final boss, but as a Touhou and Kirby fan i absolutely loved this sorta stuff lmao
Nier autamata had something like that with its end credits
I like both but I didn't like this as a Sonic final boss
@@shrobbyy Yeah that's fair. It was definitely a letdown compared to the spectacle of the first 3 titans, but something about the the fight still worked for me idk
When the Kirby games do a gameplay shift for the final boss, it's normally a gameplay mode that hasn't been used ingame before (Like 02, or Star Allies), but here, it's kinda lame that we just get one of the minigames reused
@@xero5x The music and the lines saved it for me, shame we didn't hear anything from sonic or sage during the fight.
8:16 This part with Super Sonic slowly speeding across the screen in space is beautiful
@I am 40 Not the point of the shot. It's supposed to be climactic. I mean, the glowing Super Saiyan hedgehog doesn't make much sense either.
"Now or never!"
“Slowly speeding”
True
Oh, you don’t say?!
Considering The End said "You strike this _incarnation_ with all your might", I am not entirely convinced that Sonic and Sage truly managed to kill it. They perhaps managed to take it out of commission for a while, but I doubt this will be the last we have heard of it. The scope of what it is responsible for and how many questions still linger around would be too much of a waste to leave like this.
This thing was on par, hell even stronger then any of the other Sonic final bosses we've faced, Chaos was the forgotten memory of the Ancients, Dark Gaia was the embodiment of destruction, Time Eater just bent Time and Space at will, The End is the destroyer of the universe
Something like The End going down on like that? Nope, I don't see this being the last of The End. Its going to take a lot more than that to finish it off
@@WeaponXSigma I feel like The End will be similar to Overlord in Ninjago
It's almost sure there will be a sonic frontiers 2 even more with the post credits scene
@@SeleDreams I'm just glad Sega didn't make Sage a one off character like Mephiles
That monologue was was ice cold pure evil incarnate it didn’t even mind if we defeated its current incarnation. I’m so curious to learn more about this deity, Sage stated that it wasn’t in its true form and the deity stated it had many forms and defeating it means nothing. This might be the scariest and strongest sonic game boss to date. God bosses just hit different lol
They set up for the sequel (or potential dlc) so maybe this could be a returning villain?
I'm Honeslty down when u heard defeated it means nothing I was like oh shit that's the line for the sequel 😭😭😭but again looking back this boss was so much fun mad that it was in the little hacking gameplay but just hearing the music and the two characters talk to each other when the beat drops is insane yes ima nerd
Dark Gaia: What am I? Chopped liver?
The End: Ironically.
Infinite: And me?
The End: Naught more than an atom to a universe compared to me.
If this boss reappears, oh boy. Sign me up, getting myself a copy of the game.
Honestly its only match seems to be the one being Sonic would naturally forget about... Solaris.
@@SeriousStriker The End may in fact be even more powerful than Solaris
*"He took your home world! He took your lives! Are you going to let him do it all over again?! I need your help! We can end this! Please!"*
The build up to this fight and the music was just so damn good!
"Now Or Never!"
I got goosebumps when that happened
*(Super Sonic is knocked back to Earth...)*
"...Please... look after.... Father...."
@@christopherchasteen4990 Yeah, then he lands and doesn't even act as if it happened. Brother is stone cold
@@Pufftarot Wouldn't be the first time!
It felt like it was passable in Unleashed due to the Werehog form being… elastic-y.
Possibly a bit much in Sonic 2 and 3 just being able to land safe and sound on the wings of a plane.
This time though, it rather felt like a subtle dig at Shadow's supposed death in SA2. Like, what sort of Ultimate Life Form are you if you can't just hop and skip away from a planetary crash landing!?
"He took your home world. He took your lives! Are you really gonna let him do is ALL over again?! I need your help. We can end this! Please!"
That immediately gave me chills.
Who was sonic saying that to?
@@KingK1421 i think it was for the titans of the past when they were fighting the end. I feel like it would have been better if the cutscene glitched between sonic and sage flying towards the end and the titans flying towards their fallen comrade
@@KingK1421 The titans that he fought.
It’s just a shame that that line is completely botched in the context of the ACTUAL fight.
@@KingK1421 I said that to the titans to help me
I love how after the end says: "My captors bent time and space. My captors built a whole reality to contain me. My captors burnt their souls away to fuel their engines. *And you?* " The music swells up. It really makes this battle feel so much more intense. Overall, the battle is great! This seems to just be one incarnation of this entity, so I wonder if we will see more forms of it someday.
I believe so. I also believe we have been fighting incarnations of The End before in past games.
"You glitter. You fly about me like a *gnat.* You strike this incarnation with all your might -- it changes nothing. You are not brave! You are not victorious!"
It was talking a lot of smack for someone within ramming distance of Super Sonic's face...it really should have known better.
@@iancomtois9832 When you think about it, The End should've thought a little longer on that thought. "My captors bent time and space. My captors built a whole reality to contain me. My captors burnt their souls away to fuel their engines, and you?" ... Did none of that. You didn't NEED to bend reality, you didn't NEED to contain me, you DIDN'T NEED to burn your soul, or fuel your machines... you just did it... alone, for no reason other than ignorance, or stupidity, or recklessness, or whatever reason I can come up with... and yet you are standing here, facing me to the same ability as my captors without needing to make ANY sacrifices...
I may be inevitable... but this... probably wasn't a good idea.
@@KingTaltia Even so, if it came down to it, I believe Sonic would be more than willing to burn his life away if it meant saving lives. Hell, we see that in the game already, taking the data corruption to the point he's basically dead (until the Power of Friendship(TM) saves the day).
And me are gonna finish what they try
honestly with this song you feel like it is already the end of the game regardless if the final boss it’s just a giant meteor, it gives that feelings, a message from the creators: ¨Thank you for accompanying Sonic on this adventure. We’ve worked really hard to lift the name sonic up to the top. And I, the player with one eye tearing up, i must say: thank you”
Normally most final bosses themes are made of super badass songs; but this one is quite differently. What do you think ?
I think much the same, and there isn't much I can add to enhance what you have already said.
That being said a guy can try. The melancholy and atmosphere this absolute ripper of a tune bring to the table is nothing short of empowering. I might have died once or twice, but making my way through this final frontier and analyzing the obstacles ahead of me, before letting my charged energy rip was an intuitive and instinctual feeling.
Everything felt like it was coming to a natural and ceremonious end and it was up to me- us, no EVERYONE who worked their way up to this point to carry it on home!
@@jettvalen7326 As a person who managed to beat The End in one try, this music definitely was made for that sorta experience instead of having to listen to it for 20 minutes because the player keeps dying, lol. The way the fight ends with Super Sonic flying through space like a comet with the beautiful piano and pad in the background really hit different for me. Was playing this at 1AM and seeing that made me tear up at least somewhat. The whole ending sequence was wonderful, and this music vastly improved it. Thank you, Tomoya Ohtani.
Such a beautiful ending, even if it was a bit lackluster gameplay wise, lol. I hope they manage to create a truly amazing final boss for the next one, while still keeping the spectacle that this one had. Wishing everyone at Sonic Team good luck in the future. They've finally made it. 🤟
I think the game was shit quality and I wish Sonic Team could try at least once while making their game. At least once.
I agree, this one final boss gameplay wise might have been dissapointing to most people, the expectaction made it seem that something of the caliber of all the other Titan bosses (or even better) was coming, just to get something almost completely opposite. But to me it does perfectly it's job, the first time i got here it was just magical, the atmosphere, the monologue, THE MUSIC, it gives the impression that everything will come to a conclusion here, that this is just the last step to put an end to everything that has happened in the past to the now centuries old extinted race the Ancients and to let it all go. And instead of the usual flashy fight and high-energy/motivational soundtrack that every game (or even this one) had, there is a soothing piano playing throughout the entire sequence and accompanying the whole scenery, which, in my opinion, makes it all the more beautiful, it's different? Yes; It gives kind of different feelings? Yes; It made the boss disappointing? Maybe; But wasn't it pleasing and delightful? to me, it was definitely in my eyes.
We may be in the minority when it comes to appreciating this boss, but I'm glad there are others who understand the message Sonic Team was attempting to convey with this one and can enjoy it as much as I did the first time I reached this part.
@@KapitanPazur1 look dude, if this game doesn't scream "we tried" then nothing will impress you.
Effort and execution aren't always so perfectly tied as we might think.
After seeing the update 3 final fight and ending, I thought it was good, but.... I actually prefer how bitter sweet this final fight and ending was. The way Sage sacrificed herself and Eggman feeling sad that his daughter died (until he brought her back after credits), his "that's my girl ". Sure, it's not exactly what people wanted, but it was an intense af thing in a Sonic game, a bullet hell final battle. Funny how people forgotten that Rush Adventure ended the same way.
Yeah, and Rush Adventure had us going up against a boss that was probably just as powerful as this boss, because the Egg Wizard wielded the jeweled scepter that was at the moment channeling the ancient primordial energy known as the Power of the Stars…
I forget, wasent egg wizard capable of actully knocking rings out of super sonic and blaze?
As Nier Automata is my favourite work of fiction ever, and the ending is exactly like Sonic Frontiers… this was part of the reason why I called this my GOTY of 2022. No joke. THIS was how you did a series comeback and how you perfected a game for newer generations that people liked. Aside from minor issues, I actually thought OG Frontiers was a perfect new stepping stone for Sonic and I seriously am hoping Sega will continue this amazing formula.
This is one of my favorite closing themes to a sonic game that I've ever heard
I'm used to this final boss fights being about being on the edge or facing impossible odds
But all I feel from this song is the pure vibe of...Hope.
This is the song of hope. It just makes you want to get up and run, full speed ahead , regardless of what's around the next corner
What a fucking masterpiece
Sonic Frontiers is a masterpiece and easily my third favourite Sonic game (only losing to Gens and Sonic 2) as this title knew what it wanted to be. Despite its short comings… everything Sonic Frontiers had worked. Compelling characters, a mysterious story, amazing music, godtier bosses, and controls that felt responsive and tight. Despite Cyber Space, some of the islands, a few graphical issues, and lack of replayability… this game made me feel different. It made me feel hope and happiness once again for the Hedgehog and I can see myself coming back to this game again and again in the future. It truly is spectacular… and a true *masterpiece*
Never in my life would I have to say my time playing Touhou games would help me in a sonic game of all things.
I’ve never played touhou but playing a lot of UNDERTALE and SPACE INVADERS Helped me a lot too💀
@@YamuBasalt I highly suggest you look up videos of Touhou, Specifically Legacy of a lunatic kingdom as its widely agreed as the hardest in the series, since one boss literally reverses your controls.
@@LynxRecruit I know what you touhou is and played it what I meant to say it that I don’t play it as much but I can agree that shit is hard💀
@@LynxRecruit you mean Double Dealing Character with the reverse controls, right?
Why everyone is so hype about final boss? They are really easy almost boring with the worst ost among bosses in the game
This song is the culmination of all three music styles the game uses.
The charming, yet melancholy edm/techno sounds of cyberspace start the song off. It's joined by the energetic, high intensity, motivational sounds of drums, heavy metal guitars and bass that was featured during the titan battles. And the backbone of the whole track, is the triumphant, orchestral string instruments found in the open zone stages, that come in to support the whole song and give it structure.
The song also manages to convey a wide emotional range, without uttering a word. Sadness, triumph, heroics, loss, regret, joy, excitement, wonder, calm, focus, fear, strength. All contained within this track.
And to top it all off, no matter when you die during the song, it will always perfectly loop itself back to the start seamlessly, without sounding odd or mismatched. It does not matter if you died during the mellow opening, the high intensity middle, or the calm comedown of the final portion. As soon as the song starts from the beginning, it never feels like it interrupted itself.
It's a difficult task to compose a piece that manages to wrap up the themes and experiences of whole adventure. But this track knocks it out of the park. It is the perfect final boss theme
not many people appreciate the song in the comments _OF the theme_ and i really love your analysis
Very few songs can achive the last thing with which you describe this ost
Truly a masterpiece
Indeed, the perfect final boss battle
Good observation.
I'm gonna be real, as someone who also loves games like Kirby and NieR, seeing Frontiers do that same approach of "now for something completely different", for the final boss no less, and having it be a goddamn Ikaruga homage?? Sonic Team was personally after my own heart there. I get some people being disappointed, I get if the gameplay shift might filter some players, but good lord, dude... this got *me* good. Rock on, Sonic Team!
Whoa whoa whoa, careful with the s+f words
I love this final boss so much! The most fun ive had with a last boss in sonic.
Honestly the only thing that disappointed me was the fact that I completely missed this the first time because I wasn't on hard mode
@@Crickajou fine I'll edit it just for you pal 👍
@@Crickajou ?
Now after the dlc, the new battle might have been better gameplay wise but this one was superior at narrative level, also the original had a pretty good atmosphere as well.
true!
Both final battles are good
This one for narrative level and emotional weight.
Meanwhile Final Horizon's one is good on gameplay and climatic atmosphere.
If you ask me which one of both final bosses could be the canon line, this one is my opinion.
I love the melancholic and hopeless atmosphere of the original ending
It would be the perfect ending for me if both Supreme and THE END had a boss battle worthy of being the final bosses of the game
Agreed one hundred percent, there is no feeling of stakes in the New Horizon story path, I missed how even with Super Sonic and a Titan teaming up there was no assurances that Sage and Sonic were gonna be able to defeat this primal eldritch horror and made her suicide run on it at the moment of truth hit harder.
I actually preferred OG’s final boss any day over the dlc.
OG’s was hard and a little disappointing… but I actually loved the sense of challenge and overcoming it just felt awesome.
Final Horizon’s I find despite how amazing it was cinematography wise… it was so unfair and never gave any explanation or context clues as to what to do.
I think the vocal version suggests there's an even deeper meaning to this version of the song.
The vocal version describes how glad sage is that she can finally go come home to a family of her own.
This version only plays in the timeline where that doesn't initially happen, so it's more her wishing she could stay with eggman forever but can't.
It's kind of sad when you think about it.
This was the only game that made me feel emotions while playing it.
I’m so happy.
Something about this theme just breaks me. It literally sounds like the end. But the end of what? The game? The story? A chapter in life? Fond experiences? Memories? Life? It seems like all of those and more. The emotions of this song can be depicted with anything; all those things that eventually passed. A bittersweet memory of something that once was. Something still inside but only as a warm flickering. The transiency of things.
This theme is the end.
And it breaks me.
And end of an Era for our favorite blue blur, the next chapter is coming
1:42 and 2:33 is the best part of the music. One of the greatest. I already beaten the whole game and finish it. Now I'm really glad I didn't see those unrelease leaks. @Mia Datenshi
Man, that's deep.
The end of Sonic’s decay, and the beginning of its new chapter. Honestly between how one way dream was said to be Sonic team’s attitude towards the series now, and the fact that the end was telling Sonic how everything he did was nothing in face of his inevitable end but refusing to give up, is honestly a really cool allegory for the history of Sonic itself.
Despite criticism and overwhelming odds it refused to give up and now a new chapter has begun.
The end will come back it will always incarnate just as there will always be detractors and haters, but both Sonic and his creators will refuse to give up
@@nullanma5134 well said
this song makes me cry, this game was so good and it will be remembered in sonic history
This doesn't sound like the final boss theme of this game, it sounds like the final boss of the entire Sonic series.
If this were the final Sonic game I'd be satisfied. This game really fixed all of the damage they did to the Sonic characters over the last 10+ years. And despite it's flaws, it was an amazing and emotional experience.
@@kaz101 I doubt it is. Sonic is too iconic for them to just stop making games. But like you said if it was the final game, I'd be satisfied with how it ended
@@kaz101 Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if this is the latest sonic game we've yet had in a chronological sense. The cast just feels... older in this game, comparatively speaking. Maybe it's the change in VAs.
It feels like the end of an era and the beginning of new one.
@@Epsilonsama *coughcoughVoidTerminacoughcough*
People calling it a space rock while my first thought was “Holy shit, we can’t even comprehend this thing”
I was thinking about the Brethren moons when I saw what the end was
@@F0XHunter I was thinking of Nyx (The moon) from Persona 3.
Dang things was just Sonic's Version of Unicron from Transformers.
@@firewolfkanji1795 Shit. Holy shit, you're right.
This thing is basically Nyx, but even more incomprehensible. Because at least Nyx wasn't malevolent. The End? Not so much.
@@tomlynmathewsjr7514 the Japanese dialogue would suggests the The End is neither good or evil and is actually turning towards understanding in the final moments of the fight
I don't know why, but seeing Super Sonic soar across the infinite void of space as the last glimmer of hope for Earth and the Ancients to 7:00 makes me a bit emotional.
he really looked like a shooting star
Dude in that little moment, i teared up. A game hasn't done that to me since Mother 3. The feeling was and is...indescribable.
A Mote of Golden light soaring through the abyss to save those he loves.
As the whole world watches Sonic stop the coming end!
@I am 40 1) Space is waaaay bigger than people think. The distance of moon to the earth is 200+ thousand miles, or 300+ thousand kilometers. If Sonic wanted to build up speed, he would have it.
2) The point of the shot is more as a response to one of The End's taunts. "What can one mote of golden light illuminate within the abyss?" Because as the shot shows, *all* it takes is one mote of golden light to shine into the abyss. At that moment, Sonic represents everyone's hopes.
-His friends hopes of their own future adventures and growth
-The Ancients hope to protect this new world they came to call home
-Sage's hope to protect her newly realized family.
-Eggman's hope of living up to Gerald's genius and accomplishments.
-Hell, you could even add in Sonic Team and its fans hope for the future success of the franchise
Even if the shot doesn't make much sense, the spectacle and potential meaning behind it more than make up for it, I think.
7:50 made me cry
Maybe I’m just easy to please but after finding the Supreme Titan kinda “whelming” as a final boss I REALLY loved the true hard mode-only final boss. Just the sheer insanity of Sonic Team going the full 9 yards for an Ikaruga shoutout had me stunned, and The End having some of the coolest lines in the series while you weave between shots kept me in that bewildered hype state.
Not at all what I expected from this game’s final boss, both the fight and the music and I love both of them.
The End was only on hard mode? Glad I played on that mode if that’s the case
Wait the ending is different in hard mode??!! God damn it, guess I'm restarting the game again
@@monkeyman767 You can just change the difficulty to hard before fighting it on your current save, but also *yes play the game again it's great*
@@GuardianOfDandelions oh dang didn't know that'd effect it, brilliant thanks!! (But also yeah I might just go through it all again on Hard for the fun of it anyway haha)
I had max upgrades so I kind of destroyed supreme with the Koko upgrades and seeds
This song gives a sense of hope in trying circumstances. I've been battling anxiety and depression for several years. I've heard so many songs that give me a sense of healing, but this one is incredible. Thank you Sega for such a wonderful song. Can't wait to play this game and to listen to this song!
Just so you know this boss is only if you beat the game on hard mode
You know maybe that was the whole point? Othani san said that One way dream was a song with a message from all of Sonic Team. So.maybe the final boss was somehow the same. Sonic Team was really trying really hard to pull of something not giving up Even if things looked pretty bad . And they pulled it off at the end . I dunno it really feels like that
bro, me too, i have anxiety and it's a fucking hell, but with hope, passion, and friends, everything is posible, you're not alone (srry for my bad english i'm spanish)
@@YamuBasalt Beat it today. Got to hear it. Boss gave me a hard time, but I had fun.
One of the reasons why this song hits hard for me, what made me cry as my first time with this boss, as it ridicules you for your efforts.
This song is nothing but Sorrow. But also Hope.
For all of those that died, to the embodiment of death, The End. The inevitable.
But hope is what keeps us alive and keep moving forward, to keep fighting the uphill battle. Giving it all you got till the very end.
Thank you so much Sonic team for such a great built up.
My son was born last night. I’m sitting outside the hospital, reflecting on the last 30 years of life.
This song is the perfect soundtrack to it.
Félicitations🎉🎊 et heureuse vie pour votre fils :)
Congratulations! Hope everything goes well!
Well just look at you, you'll be a excellent father.
Congratulations mate ;D
Congratulations
Congrats, be assured you'll be a good father/mother
After hearing this again in update 3, no matter what, I'm With You will always be Sonic's best work in my opinion
At first, I was kind of upset that the final boss was basically a bullet hell shooter.
But...honestly this fits.
Hearing this THING trash talk you the whole time during this actually difficult final boss, death after death, you actually begin to appreciate this boss for what it truly is.
It's like an acquired taste...this was a brilliant final boss.
Oh man, I 100% felt the same way, but it’s also kind of genius. Since it’s not a Super Sonic fight, it ENSURES that everyone has the same level of difficulty, no matter how much you leveled up in the game. (At least I think your attack level doesn’t effect your damage output in the final boss.)
I thought at first it was a super weird direction to take the final boss, but after my 5th death, I was like, “Ok, never mind, this is actually hard.” For reference, I beat all the Titan battles first try, so I think this honestly was a more satisfying final boss in terms of difficulty. And besides, we already had our epic Super Sonic final boss with “Supreme”. So getting a tougher final boss along with extra dialogue from “The End” honestly was super cool. (Especially when “The End” finishes their monologue and the music raises in volume. That part is always awesome.)
@@Prinzherbert I didn’t even know that was possible. I need to try that for myself now. Lol
Glad I wasn't the only one lol
Yeah I was really upset about the whole final boss thing. I'm 100% feel the same way. Every time I keep mashing L and R buttons during the final boss by shooting a bullet, my hands gets really tired.
Willing to admit this boss served my cheeks on a plate twice 😅 It's brilliant to see the Sonic Franchise get the much needed love it deserves! I'm glad I've stuck with it through the good times and the bad times. The Sonic Team and Sega deserve this win
This music can make a grown ass man cry.
Personally I really adore how this isn't just another Super Sonic fight. It emphasizes how this isn't really Sonic's moment, it's a moment focused on putting to rest all of the Ancients' loss and suffering and especially... It's Sage's moment, it's the cap to her story and so controlling the Ancients' final mech controlled by Sage cannot be more fitting. Now, did it really have to be a bullet hell though?... No... but I'm not complaining
I like to believe that special golden attack is Sonics golden burst.
It could've like doomsday zone of sonic 3 good ending but this is better lol
I think The End should have kept the shooter part of the boss but have a second phase where you play as the titans and you have to fly around in space, getting access to its full moveset. Maybe each titan would get defeated by the end one by one and you have to switch to the next one each time, until you get control of supreme and deliver the final blow. So basically playing as Sage controlling the titans, with gameplay similar to Super Sonic's.
Ikr
@@FirestoneAnimation in this fight it is. I think he’s supposed to be flying by her side or on top, we just can’t see him cuz he’s so small, but in the shooter minigames, idk what it is. Maybe super sonic?
I wonder if this theme was composed with Hyper Sonic in mind?
For context, the writer of the game confirmed that, originally, Sonic was supposed to fight The End as Hyper Sonic, but SEGA doesn’t want Sonic to achieve different forms to become more powerful like Goku does in Dragon Ball Z.
it was never confirmed that sonic was supposed to fight the end as hyper sonic.
word for word, ian flynn suggested bringing back hyper sonic because they were treating the end as the next powerful entity, but like you said, they dont want Sonic to be DBZ which is for the better honestly
then the dlc final boss literally has Super Sonic 2 lol
And then there's Final Horizon...
[The Ancients escape their home world, just before it is blown to bits, and resettle on Earth]
The End: "...And I took that personally."
This boss is like: Have you played Ikaruga?
Me: No?
The End: dO yOu WaNt To?
I play a little bit of bullet hell but its the big laser that always gets me
the end: the end come for you all
sonic: nuh uh
this game...its about a weird blue hedgehog...its a weird blue hedgehog...and this damn weird blue hedgehog actually got me to feel emotions.
This is a strange new world were living in.
I hope this eldritch death rock is the new Dark Matter/Zero of Sonic; a constant threat even when you don't see it, he said it herself, strike this Incarnation down and nothing changes you only delayed the inevitable, "The End comes for you all!"
the eldritch death rock is actually the perception of death to whoever is viewing it. It takes the appearance of a moon ingame cause Sonic would perceive death as a dead planet
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"No matter what form I take... The End comes for you all.
This boss makes me think so much. I don't think it's a thing, or a single thing, or many things. it's not evil that is trying to destroy everything. it's the natural order of existence. this whole story leads me to believe that the ancients have been around for a very very very very VERY long time. their time was up. it was time for their End. and obviously no one wants the end to happen so we try to prevent it as much as we can.
thousands upon thousands of years from now when the sun of our solar system dies, the humans on earth will be faced with this scenario. Our End. As humans we'll of obviously try everything in our power to prevent our demise from happening because we have so much love, sorrow, hopes, history and dreams for the future.. If we're gone, everything is gone. we won't be remembered. We would probably do the same thing the ancients did. because it's a terrifying thought.
That''s why this boss hits so hard for me. Sonic may have defeated this incarnation. But that doesn't change anything, it will return one day. It may not be now, it may not be tomorrow. But eventually, The End come's for us all.
Oh boy do I love an existential crisis in my Sonic games!
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Who knew a game about a super fast blue pinecone could make you question life
Never imagined a sonic game starts making me question the very purpose of all life on earth
There’s no value on our existence, save what we define for ourselves. No higher power or force of nature can hope to match the human mind, so to maintain it, we rage, rage against the dying of the light.
There is something about 2:57 - 4:27 that leaves me feeling things.
This song left me in awe as I took it all in.
And this specific part reached something that I feel.
This song means so much to me.
"My heart was disguised, a ghost brought into life, we'll see it when I'm With You..."
I understood that reference.
@@YuzuMelodious 😁
God i know where you got this from 😅
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Well, well, Yuzu Melodious 🎧🎶, Dat Bry Guy and you, Mr. Toonsy...👈😏
The monolog The End gave goes hard for no reason. I love it! But I also hope we get to see them as the villain for the games again. The End adds so much lore to the Sonic series. And the fact that there's a hint of it having more than one form is seriously giving me Darkseid vibes.
I mean it is possible. I hope they will bring THE END as the new Main Villain to the Sonic Series. As it said it is immortal and cannot be eliminated NO MATTER WHICH FORM IT WILL TAKE. It is absolute so it will be reborn. Solaris and Dark Gaia might be some incarnations of The End but because of the Phantom Ruby maybe it could be finally back by itself tricking Sonic to free him so Sonic had to defeat the Titans to bring THE END back. It is basically the Destruction, the Main Evil Incarnate. In my opinion it would so awesome if Eggman now becomes a good Guy or at least a Rival Like Shadow (Probably a Rival to still have a reason why Eggman will be still a Boss in Sonic Games) and they had to prepared for the next Comeback of THE END. Making THE END the true Main Villain of the Sonic Series. It really is like a Kirby Plot.
The end thought it was UNDEAFTABLE. it thought it could BREAK THROUGH IT ALL. but it didn't expect the forces against it to FIND THEIR FLAME. And now THEIR HERE to set things right.
And most importantly...
They ARE WITH SONIC.
Dig how this song meshes well with Sonic’s and Sage’s personalities. Overall hopeful for victory while having a constant somber and melancholy tone.
Hearing this while listening to "the end" speak throughout really got me thinking about how Sonic and us have gone through so much in each game. This game's story is so fucking incredible and I loved every single minute I had playing this game.
This theme got me. Hits all the right notes for The End, and I’m still surprised how Outstanding Sonic Frontiers was. A solid change of pace, and I hope they continue this style going forward potentially branching out to other playable characters with refined move sets like Sonic.
“You ended their peace, that may be true…
…
But you can’t end infinity.”
I feel like the correct way to experience ‘I’m with you’ now is to listen to the vocal theme and then this. Makes this half hit hard AF
Fun Fact: This was a scrapped first Titan boss theme! The themes were originally going to be much more emotional sounding but were changed to be sung by Kellin Quinn for more loud, screamo type, metal sounding theme.
Where did you hear this ? I'm interested.
@@Uvigamers I did hear this on Twitter, and I’m pretty sure they proved it with an image with one of the people who worked on it talking about it or something. I can’t remember the person who made the tweet unfortunately, but it is pretty much true.
I kinda wish we got to hear that version of the game’s soundtrack now.
@@Arichson me too! I do prefer the much heavier and metal-like stuff, but it’d be cool to see what the soundtrack, and what the OTHER songs would’ve been like in this kind of music genre
Genuinely such an emotional and beautiful moment. When it zooms out and you see Super Sonic like a shooting star of hope throughout the sky, really hit me. I've been a Sonic fan for over a decade, the games were my comfort throughout my teenage years and Frontiers for me was a letter of love for the fans. The game isn't flawless but I had so much fun and I enjoyed the story like I use to all those years ago.
I'm a grown man and this seriously made me cry. Was lucky enough to beat The End the first time of asking. What an amazing finale to a phenomenal game. Thank you Sonic for always being with me, through thick and thin ❤️
The End's monologue (credit to GamerBlade84 and Charisma Entertainer for quoting it for me) taking the entire fight was just. MMMM I love it so much! This music which plays alongside the monologue fit it perfectly as well: an ancient unstoppable creature who was made overconfident based on past exploits, and is unable to understand why Sonic insists on fighting despite everything, not able to comprehend the brilliance known as willpower. So hearing it play while The End is trying and failing to understand why anyone would insist on the uselessness of fighting when there is no hope is just BEAUTIFUL.
On that, the music is hollow and simultaneously empowering. A perfect embodiment of what this fight represents. Fights like these, the embodiments of hope in the face of hopelessness, are the pinnacle of flawless storytelling. These are demonstrations of the impossible power of will. A power we humans in real life possess.
Additionally, these two characters are blatant opposites, made even more clear by how Sonic (alongside Sage and the spirits of the Ancients) is wordlessly destroying this ancient creature who is spending the fight monologing. This is a creature who does not understand the soul. It would rather endlessly devour with no satisfaction. Sonic himself understands this, as the intro dialogue to the fight shows.
"He took your home world! He took your lives! Are you going to let him do it all over again? I need your help! We can end this! Please!"
Lastly, it's even better how all this was built up throughout the game, most especially in the case of this particular exchange between Sonic and Sage:
"You're always talking about odds and simulations, but we living beings don't live by calculations. The will to live, the drive to achieve, the desire to protect the ones you love - That kind of thing can grant a power you can't imagine." - Sonic The Hedgehog.
The power of Ian Flynn as a writer, everyone.
That last quote really showed how Sonic feels about the world. He knows how dire the situation is, he knows knows that is at stake but also knows that he can't give up because if he gives up, if he backs down its over for everyone. He represents everyone's hope so he has to not doubt himself.
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A Golden Light Soaring Across The Abyss of Space like a Shooting Star, lighting the darkest night.
I discovered something embarrassingly late.
Sage is using her color palette as the Light and Dark shots while the Golden Burst (Gonna call that multishot attack) is Sonics super attack.
Edit: I keep coming back to this and the more I did, the more I felt afraid of The End than other godly beasts like Solaris, existing in the past, present and future simultaneously, or Time Eater, consumer of timelines.
Something about The End just felt all the more terrifying than those.
It's because the End is intelligent and communicates with Sonic/the player. It voices its intent to destroy or consume. There's no mistaking it for something all-powerful, but unknowing.
@@mortified_penguin2355 Yeah, it ain't no almighty idiot, it actively manipulates those involved to make sure it is released from Cyberspace.
@@mortified_penguin2355 that is truly terrifying.
Once you understand frontiers lore it is clear that the end is truly a being like no other. For Solaris and time eater, all it took was more than 1 super form which is a HUGE feat but the fact that the end was shown to wipe out a race that was a type 2 civilization is incredible but I guess Solaris could've done that. But the fact they needed not a place but a whole dimension to contain THE END and it could still filter trough to talk to sonic means it was basically plotting everything long long before it happened. THE END could never be fully contained and according to sage not even super sonic would be able to stop it. The end is literally nothing, it is the existence of the void. It's very existence is impossible. And even while weakened and not fully restored, the end could still kill super sonic and Supreme at the same time which can block it's laser. The end can also never be destroyed as it will just take a new form and begin the cycle again.
@@mortified_penguin2355 also, what makes The End far more dangerous is that it actually succed in destroying a world
I fucking love this theme and the monologue that accompanies it. A surprisingly unique vibe for a Sonic finale. I cant help but love it even if I understand why it wasnt popular.
Very few songs have ever made me this emotional before, i can feel the raw emotion signifying ‘The end’ in most other tracks but they pale in comparison to the emotion and symbolism this conveys
You know all the other bosses before this one were super hard rock music but the final boss being less intense even hopeful piano music with the exception of a little guitar in there is really beautiful to me like symbolizing the end of your journey
"He took your homeworld! He took your lives! Are you really going to let him do it all over again? I need your help. We can end this... Please..."
"This isn't even my final form" *TURNS INTO A GIANT ROCK*
I mean the Giant Rock isn't its final form ether according to sage.
Really wish it had a second form wasn't really a fan of the space invader stuff i was hoping for another chance to play super sonic... the QTE doesn't count
You can't comprehend The End. You can only comprehend it as a moon, coming to end everything everyone has ever done.
This song hits completely different now…
Yup, Benditø-247...🎵🎶
The moment you realize, Sonic wasn't the one who saved the world this time. It was Sage. And, by extension, Eggman.
Mind blown.
*boom*
Not alot of people saw that this fight was deeper than we think Sage is a Sega and Sage fought for Sonic not to meet his end. Sega fought for their franchise not to die
"I have seen your mind, your courage never faultered, why is that? Is it arrogance? Ignorance? Stupidity?"
It’s crazy that this was originally gonna be the theme for the FIRST boss of the game!
Wait what
@@Cr102y yeah apparently it was
@@awesomeocelot7475 I found out that it was used for the combat trailer but I haven’t seen anything about it being used for the first boss battle originally.
Was it revealed somewhere else?
The End has been living rent free in my head ever since I finished this game. I can't stop thinking about it and its implications to the universe it's in.
Hear me out on this.
We can presume that The End is a primordial force, something that had existed even long before the Ancients came into being. Its sole purpose was to bring ruination to any that it comes across, and that is its role for all time.
But there must be something in place to counteract this. If there is only destruction then there's no way for the cycle to continue. Balance has to be struck.
If there is a Destructor, then it goes without saying that there should also be a Creator. The existence of The End implies that there also exists its complete antithesis - an entity as powerful as its dark counterpart whose sole purpose is to give life and light to the Universe.
What if this entity was the true origin of the Master Emerald?
Or better yet....
_....what if this entity of light IS the Master Emerald?_
Far out dude... It does make a lot of sense considering in one of the flashbacks on Rhea Island it shows the Ancients noticing the change in the Chaos Emeralds (which we know is due to the Master Emerald) and that was when they just managed to make their way to Earth (apparently that's what it is to be called).
It would only be logical if shortly after landing on Earth they discovered the Master Emerald and via their in depth knowledge of the Chaos Emeralds, manage to use it's abilities to create Cyberspace.
The Japanese version basically spells it out, saying that The End is just a natural force of existence that is attempting to bring order to a universe of chaos, like Galactus. It's the antithesis to chaos, order.
A force like What Primus is to Unicron. I get you
Order...antithesis of Chaos...chaos emeralds?
This theme is genuinely a banger
Glad they kept the og ending in tbh it was pretty good love the alternate one aswell but this one is very emotional literally fighting what everyone fears the ineviteable end
I don't care if we didn't get one proper final fight with all the fighting you used throughout the game, this song, the build up, the hard mode only fight, everything The End was saying, it was so damn awesome it doesn't matter if we didn't get a final proper fight with what we learned throughout. The ending especially made up for it even more.
Thank you for uploading this and including what The End said, I was pausing the game at times to hear what they were saying, it's awesome to be able to read everything without having to shoot and dodge so much lol
I'd note a key thing about this fight, is that we're playing as Sage, not Sonic. (yes The End is ignoring Sage, but The End might not even be able to properly comprehend an entirely artificial being.)
Gives me massive Sonic Unleashed vibes for some reason - only Dark Gaia was doing its job.
This monster just wants to one-up Solaris and consume all. It took everything from Chaos and the Ancients for fun.
Man, how cathartic its death is!
Dark Gaia was just following the natural cycle, The End was doing it for its amusement you really described them perfectly
I must admit though, I do wish for something that claims to be the end of everything, it would have been more like fighting a black hole than a dinosaur slaying meteor type enemy.
Also, scholars must be really jealous of Eggman, it seems every other week he's dug up some ancient godly being to unleash upon the world!
@@devilbringer1102 the end came out of nowhere 😂💯
@@ShaimingLong Well he just has to throw Rouge at a general direction and somehow someway she WILL snatch anything valuable that shines lol
Plus unlike scholars Eggman doesnt obey a governement so if he wants to make a giant flying fortress drill or smt that digs entire mountains in a few weeks well oops
My thing is did dark Gaia happen after the ancients landed? They had those chaos powered temples for a reason. Dark gaia happens every 1 million years and the ancients came 10-100,000 years ago IIRC.
In a way, this symbolizes "the end" of the beginning for Sonic-the origin of the Chaos Emeralds and his friends starting out on new paths.
Sonic's speech gave me serious chills. Say what you will about the execution of the fight itself, but it really drove home that you're not only saving the world, but you're avenging the Ancients and ensuring their deaths weren't in vain by taking down the sadistic cosmic horror that murdered them.
"MORTAL, YOU HAVE SERVED YOUR PURPOSE. NOW FACE YOUR END."
Man Frontiers is just a Experience for fans, I've been growing up with sonic all my life and man this game made feel emotions and goosebumps.
Something no other sonic game has done
This is a great song, to end on. After all the hardcore music. A lovely note, to end an already epic game.
This song and the dialogue with the End has me feeling a type of way.
Me too
Thought I was the only one
This is one of those games where all of the boss OST’s are just my absolute favorites and I can’t pick one or the other.
You know what this song is telling me? Its that no matter what happens or wherever life takes you there is always someone with you, and that someone is yourself.
They just had to add lyrics and make me cry from this huh
This song and the boss is giving me Undertale's vibe.
And I like it.
In mid December last year, I went to Japan alone for a month and a half. I had a playlist with a bunch of songs I'd listen to on the way there, and this was one of the songs in it. It just so happened to be the one playing right I landed, and as I walked into the hotel room at night for the first time. For reference, I had been anticipating this trip for over 9 years prior to this. I then decided to not touch the song for the entire duration I was there, and only listen again when sitting on the flight to leave. And man, did that listen on the runway hit hard. Having to leave after having such a great time, and having accomplished my nearly 10 year long dream, all while listening to this song was something else. I'm glad I didn't give up on the idea after so many years. There are plenty more things to accomplish on the horizon. So if you have some goal you want to achieve, big or small, keep at it. I'm with you.