THE WORST JOKERS
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- Опубліковано 15 лис 2023
- There have been many Jokers in Batman media over the years ---
but at the bottom of the barrel is none other than this.
The WORST Joker ever put to screen ----
Jared Leto is definitely going down in the history books but not for the reasons one would hope.
#batman #joker #harleyquinn
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Not every Joker can be Mark Hamill.
Today we're here to pay tribute to one of the worst criminal clowns ever put to screen.
Young Justice 's own Joker , Brent Spiner.
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This is it.
The worst of the worst.
Far worse than The Joker in Young Justice and maybe even worse than Jared Leto 's Joker in The DCEU---
Is The Joker from Injustice.
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You've seen the worst Jokers on the big and small screen----
This time we'll be taking a look at the worst Joker to ever make it to videogames.
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In Zack Snyder's Justice League, I genuinely believe that Jared Leto's Joker would give Batman a reach-around, given the opportunity.
And Batman probably would've let him.
The best version of his joker
That's pretty much all jokers tho there always a underline homosexual vibe with em
Joker LOVES Batman. Like I actually think he's in love with him. So I wouldn't put it past him. Lol he pretty much does everything to get his attention, hates Tim Drake because he's the only Robin who Joker hasn't truly traumatized. And he does THAT to get Batmans attention. Read 3 jokers. Joker forces Batman to face his trauma JUST so that Joker can be the cause of any and all of Bruce's pain. Dude is obsessed.
In the comics his obsession/love of Batman is just as strange. Heck read Arkham asylum: a serious house on serious earth.
Leto's Joker is what happens when you have a director who doesn't understand the character and when you give an actor creative control.
Nah it was just cause they gutted the sucide squad he seemed cool in the original script but they kept in what seems like the worst parts
@@robinn384To be entirely fair. Leto acted like a fucking asshole the entire time and the scenes we got were because he wouldn't stop being a creep.
@@robinn384Lol, another Snyderverse worshipper. The depiction was trash, get over it
@@robinn384buddy Jared Leto joker was absolutely horrible
Caesar Romero helped design his costume and forced them to work around a mustache he refused to shave.
Jack Nicholson was just given a purple suit and told to "be himself"
Heath Ledger designed his own make-up and ad-libbed half his scenes
Mark Hamill's performance caused the btas crew to make redesigns to Joker instead of the more typical other way around.
Leto's Joker is what happens when you let a *hack* and an idiot to have creative control.
I think the "Kick Me" sign is really the only tattoo that works for the Joker.
Lmao somehow, I agree 😂
Batman should capture him and have it done before dropping him off at arkham.
And it being a giant tattoo on his back just feels like a must
I'm partial to the mouth on his hand
that way he can literally put a smile on others' faces
That one and the smile on his hand felt like something the joker would have. The rest, not so much
I'm a firm believer that YJ Joker was intentionally bland and unappealing because the writers didn't want anyone to focus on him or beg for him to come back
Clearly, it worked then
I think the opposite. I think that they thought that the 'menacing' "I've had practice juggling my multiple personalities," was meant to make people be like "He's so cool! I want to see more of him!"
Young Justice was good in the first two seasons, but damn, was it inconsistent. Also, I don't care what anyone says, Miss Martian, Kid Flash, and Beast Boy sucked in that show.
Wiseman has said something to this idea and he is not a fan of the Joker.
It would make sense since it was all about the young heroes. It's not about Joker since he's mainly Batman's enemy.
The team's enemy was basically The Light. Joker was a pawn for the light.
@@water6teendragon The Light was mostly comprised of enemies of adult heroes. Vandal Savage is the enemy of several reincarnating and immortal heroes as well as the Justice Leauge. Lex is Superman's arch-nemesis and card carrying member and often leader of the Legion of Doom just like Joker except Joker is Batman's arch-nemesis and far as I know, doesn't usually lead the Legion. The version of Queen Bee Young Justice's was based on was an enemy of Justice League International. Suprisingly Klarion is actually Etrigan's enemy rather than Fate's though he's not too very consistent (fitting of a lord of chaos I suppose). Deathstroke is the enemy of Batman, Green Arrow and the Justice League and Ultra-Humanite is another Superman villain.
Zviad Baazovi was the only one who was actually an enemy of the Outsiders.
I thought I was so smart when I thought this was going to be a fake out. I sincerely thought Jared Leto's Joker was going to actually be an imposter trying to ride off the street cred and power of The Joker who would be slayed by the real Joker maybe halfway through the movie.
It would have made it better, that's actually a good idea
Yeah that's not a bad idea actually.
Actually kinda works tbh even with past comics. Kinda sorta like the 3 Joker comic storyline in away. Since we've as far as I know haven't seen that dynamic on the big screen yet.
It’s better than the Jason Todd imposter theory.
Basically it would work perfect in a Batman Beyond movie
My main problem with the Tattoos is that they are too simple and way too many.
Joker always been (the good ones at least) about the show, the entertaiment. If he were to get tattos he would probably one of those Yakuza style back tats but like a big cartoon fish with a stupid smile, wearing a fancy hat and... maybe brushing its teeth with a batarang.
Joker is a sociopath and a murderer but he is also a showman.
I don't think it matters too much. How often do we see the Joker with his shirt off?
@@SeasideDetective2 it could work, if done properly.
He had a dragon tattoo on his back at one point
@@Who_Tye709 - He only had the dragon in one issue of *"All-Star Batman & Robin"* by Frank Miller (the story is notoriously weird, but there is some fantastic art by Jim Lee, who also did the Joker tattoo on the cover, and in a couple panels of issue #8)
The funny part is that Jared Leto's Joker actually rocks the exact same dragon tattoo on his back (but in black-and-white instead of red-green), but in the cut of the movie we got we only see it a bit after he jumps into the acid vat to save Harley, and his shirt starts to melt...
There is some Behind the Scenes footage of that moment from different angles with more light, where we see more of the dragon tattoo than we do in the movie proper.
It was also confirmed that it was the same dragon on 2 officials pieces of merchandise: the METAL Die-Cast Joker statue (shirtless), and the DC's COLLECTIBLE SS Joker statue sculpted by the very talented James Marsano.
We might get a better look at the DCEU Joker's back in the Ayer cut, somehow? Not sure what the circumstances might be, but there are quite a few extra scenes with the Joker in it, after all... (I really want to see his tête-à-tête with Enchantress, and then his face-off with the Squad when he comes to take Harley back).
That’s perfect.
I think the problem with Jerod Leto's Joker is that it wasn't written like the Joker, this Joker was written like a gangster trying to do a Joker impression without ever having seen any media that includes the character
Yep this version of joker should of been written the opposite way around, it should of been the Joker cos playing as a gangster instead just because he can but it also serves a purpose for later 💯
We never got see his joker they cut most of his parts out and used take the original director dint want, why is so hard for ppl to understand
You perfectly described the joker gang from Batman beyond 😭
@@tunafxsh lol
This is how I feel about the new SSKTJL Joker
I’m still mad that they gave him a face tattoo that says “damaged” but not clown makeup face tattoos like it was there right in front of them
wait now, tattoo make up wouldve worked soooo well
Leto wanted to be Heath Ledger so bad but didn't ever know what made Heath Ledger's Joker special, he tried staying in character off screen during production just like Heath but to him that apparently meant "send used condoms to your co-stars".
And worse of all, what is even the joke there?
If he's acting like the Joker the condom thing should be a ironic statement or a punchline.
Either he just thought "Joker = Weird" or we're missing the setup of his joke.
Ledger wasn't even like that, between scenes he was extremely respectful and inquisitive according to his co-stars and Christopher Nolan. There was a level of method there but he wasn't Joker 24/7.
@@Ethan-wr2osoff screen He locked himself in a room for hours playing the Joker in front of a mirror for practice. Which is like... the most normal and expected thing for a serious career actor to do. If anything Leto should have been doing that not trying LARP in front of his coworkers when theyre not filming.
I think Leto was trying to be crazy in real life, which did not translate over well on film, he only turned in a weak performance.
Instead of Joker breaking out of Arkham to commit random violence, he breaks out of Arkham to go to the club.
Young Justice Joker looks like the fanart a thirsty teenager would make
I cant stop seeing Adachi from persona 4 in him, for some reason for me they are so similar....
i knew twink jokers were a thing in fanart but i didn't think there would be an official twink joker
@@AMIGACD Lmao
The most ironic thing for me is Jared Leto was the first actor to have the slender skinny body type of comic book Joker. He could have been at least visually a perfect adaptation, if not acting wise, but instead of sticking to the classic they thought they knew better.
All you had to do was painting this guy green, white and give him a purple suit.
I hate Leto as an actor and a human I literally avoid everything he’s in If I can but I agree with this, his body type and look could’ve been utilised if they gave him the classic joker look
Really?
Heath Ledger looked slim when he played Joker(R.I.P)
@@StardogChampion06 he did but leto’s body type is perfect
What are you talking about? Heath Ledger was the first actor to have that body type for the Joker on screen. He was skinny af, Jared Leto is ripped compared to him. Just look at those shirtless tattoo pics, he looks tone as hell. Ledger had the perfect physique for the role.
How did this comment get so many likes?
Tbh if they had been a bit more conservative with the wardrobe and toned down the tattoos he would have had a good paul diny joker
Letos joker is like if bat-boy from weekly world news took up villainy in Gotham.
WOW. You, sir, are a star!😂😂😂 That's the best thing I've heard in a long time!
Yea you hit the nail in the head hahaha. I couldn’t quite put my finger on it until now
Ha!
Remember when he said "it's Jokin time" and then he actually didn't tell any jokes?
I knew Leto's Joker reminded me of something.
I think if I ever wrote a Joker part for a larger superhero movie, I'd almost write him like the protagonist of a screwball comedy... Like every time we see him he's in the middle of some bizarre situation, and you ALMOST forget what kind of movie you're watching... Until he resolves his situation by killing someone.
Honestly that straight up works better than having his film being a melodrama
I was kinda expecting the one from the 2004 series “The Batman” to be on here. Honestly, that one is probably one of my favorites for how unique he is. Usually the Joker is portrayed as a psychotic party clown, or just a psycho in clown makeup. What made that version unique was that he was a psychotic, acrobatic circus clown. It’s kind of a shame that idea isn’t used as much
Crazy Hobo Joker is the Joker I grew up with. Kevin Michael Richardson made that version of the character unique without trying to copy Hamill like others do. Also The Batman 2004 cartoon is seriously underrated.
Yeah the batman had a really fun joker design, i liked his straight jacket sleeves a lot
The best part about 2004 Joker is that they didn’t focus on the angle of “He’s Batman’s enemy”. They focused on “He’s a clown”, and that made it so his plans were always interesting.
@@RookTVchannel They also made his dark psychotic personality work, in the future its implied that he crippled Barbara Gordon and I can actually believe that because we've seen him drive Ethan Bennet insane
@@sandyscrapwitch2064 The episode where Joker drives Ethan insane even parallels The Killing Joke.
The big problem? Joker was made to look sexy and edgy. They wanted to sell merch at hot topic and have young girls want a relationship like harley and joker. It was a gimic.
Jared Leto may not have played the Joker well but he portrayed a damn fine Melvin brother of the joker.
This comment as ruined my day. Why would you remind people of that?
@@ScreechingLoser Because Melvin Brother of the Joker refuses to be forgotten and I am one of his acolytes spreading the bad word.
Melvin! melvin! brother of the joker!
You joke, but now that I think about it I sincerely believe Doug Walker would have made a better Joker
I disagree about Lettos Joker needing a close relationship with Batman, not all Jokers do. The original goldenage joker didnt. He was a mobster, a gangster, I think they tried to do that. A modern gangster is what they tried to make him, unfortunately it fell flat on its face, Jack Nicholson already did the gangster Joker perfecty, I dont think anyone could do that version as well as Jack did. Also in the goldenage Batman was annoying to the Joker, which makes me think thats what they were going for.
I'm on the part he rambles about that and it's so stupid
Like there are only a few movies in the universe and these 2 have 1 proper scene with each other in first ss movie (we won't talk about apocalypse) and it's the chace where he fucks off and batman saves harley so there was not even a chamce to establish anything between them on screen
What he says has to either take up a chunk of another movie or a whope batman movie to show and he demands it from like 15 minutes of joker in all of dceu
I think he can be a character without Batman. Personally I like him more as a villain who isn’t just evil for power but evil for a vendetta that borders on obsession. It adds to the unsettling craziness instead of a monster out for money he’s an insane stalker obsessed with showing the world that it sucks like Heath Ledgers.
This is really making me ponder on what makes the Joker seem like the Joker. Like, I would hand on heart swear that Cameron Monaghan's "Not-The-Joker" character from Gotham looks more like the Joker than Jared Leto's incarnation... but he doesn't even have green hair, or the name, and he looks Joker-like right from his first appearance. HOWWWWW.
He's just so good at playing Jack Nicholson Joker and Heath Ledger Joker so well.
The smile
You have to ask how? Seriously? Just watch it. It's self-evident.
I HATE joker throwing Harley into the vat of chemicals, I think that's so stupid.
Now she's literally just a female Joker, vs a fan girl who was manipulated into falling in love, and now does all these horrible things just to impress him, out of crazy fanaticism to him.
I think it's because what the movie is *trying* to go for is to have harley replace joker as the main bad guy, but both are just bad at being characters in general.
Like, I prefer to think of Harley's devotion to Joker, something like those "mothers" devoted to Ian Watkins... if you don't know what I'm talking about, and you don't want to have a bad day, then don't look that up.
being a fangirl and being maniplated is still a stupid modern shit. it was much better when she was just med student.
Yeah I hated that they went that route since the renewed universe
@@dilloncrowe1018damn bro, you made me remember ian watkins. But I get what you're saying, interesting if very dark perspective.
Rest in peace Kevin, the best Batman.
😭😭😭
Young Justice Joker is ironically funny to me because he always looks so confidence when he pulls out his knives to fight super heros. Who seriously thought to give Joker knives?
I don't know how many people notice this but Joker is the opposite of Batman in terms of Batman has muliple gadgets on him at all times while Joker instead of carrying a bunch of weapons like to focus on a small list weapons a lot of the time.
Tbh I like when the Joker uses gimmicky murder gadgets he rigs up kinda like an acid flower on his suit and a knife in his shoe that he can sheathe when he wants to conceal it. Pretty much I feel like injustice the games series is a pretty good representation of how Joker could seriously fight although Arkham isn't a bad representation either. I like when Joker is some kinda of threat in a fight. The dark Knight movie was good at it too but just set the Joker more ominous and unpredictable threat rather than all out fighting but he indeed always had a plan just wanted you to think it was all random but yet he always comes prepared lol
.... TAS joker used knives all the time
@@rwg6357 The problem is less with the knives and more of that's the only thing I can remember about him.
Heath Ledger's Joker LOVED using knives, but he used guns, rocket launchers, shoe blades and anything else at his disposal. He truly was an Agent of Chaos.
@@rwg6357He also used sharp playing cards.
“Suicide Squad Kill The Justice League” Joker is probably gonna be worse
Yes we need elseworlds Joker on this list when he fully comes out
I’m genuinely interested to see how badly they mess him up.
@@chayimweinstock443At least buy him dinner first.
It surprisingly is
@@real1mem3s I actually don’t mind him tbh
Jared Let's Joker doesn't feel like the Joker, he feels like a teenage boy who saw the Dark Knight once and made Heath Ledger his entire personality.
I feel like Leto was less playing the Joker and more trying to channel Alex from "A Clockwork Orange".
He shouldn't even be filmed reading the credits to "A Clockwork Orange".
I always felt like he was trying to do the mask ngl
A Clockwise Orange is good tho...
Mf couldn’t be the prince of crime, so he became a farcry 5 villain
That last one wasn't too bad. It sounded like they wanted Mark Hamill but couldn't get him so they paid another actor to do an impression of him without prep-work and an hour to go through the lines.
That sounds pretty bad to me.
I honestly dont think Brent Spiner was that bad of a Joker. He wasnt homicial sociopath Joker, but his performance was good.
It's bizzare. He *is* a comedian first, and his roles as Lore in TNG and Purple Man in Avengers EMH demonstrate he had the acting chops to be both funny and menacing.
YJ's writing, once again, fell flat.
@@USSMariner Lore was a great example that Spiner could do a believable Joker. I just think the YJ character design didn’t fit his voice. It seemed weird with that design and I think that’s why some people didn’t like it
The worst Joker is The Joker That Doesn't Laugh or as The Flash called him, The Batman Who Tries Too Hard but is officially known as The Batman Who "Laughs"
TBWL wasn’t awful until they put him every comic for like a year straight
Batman who Laughs is a Batman variant, not a Joker.
Tbh I don't hate Batman Who Laughs that much. It's like, fine in concept, but only as like, a one time thing.
@@user-gw3bs2in5iHis biggest problem seems to be just a problem with comics in general nowadays
@@SadMoribundas far as I'm aware he's jokers mind in Batmans body, might be wrong tho
I watched Joaquin phoenix joker and it scares me as it was based on reality. It felt so real watching it due to the world Arthur was living in and how his entire life is falling apart causing him to turn into this villain. It’s a good movie and unlike suicide Squad, a joker that is well written and executed perfectly terrifies me a lot. The more you go through trauma, it becomes funny as it’s a joke.
Let’s not exaggerate, he’s not scary at all and let’s not pretend that copy of Taxi Driver + King of Comedy has anything groundbreaking about it. Arthur Fleck is not the Joker, all they have in common is the purple suit. Arthur is nowhere near smart enough nor does he have a genuinely sick sense of humor and he’s definitely not capable of becoming Batman’s arch nemesis. He’s not even truly evil
What really sucks is that when you look at some of the concept art for the joker he had a different style originally that kinda had a mob vibe to him and he looked older and less over the top and more of a crazy man that had a reputation that spread fear.
The fact that they got Brent Spiner to play him in YJ... You have to have some truly terrible writing to make that man seem like he can't act. What a waste. Apparently the character designers were inspired to make him look like Lupin the 3rd. It really shows how much they thought that their inspiration ALONE would make it work.
Letos Joker is like The real Jokers annoying nephew 😆🤦♂️
To be completely fair, I liked the idea of a younger, more wreckless modern age Joker. He’d definitely drive a lambo for sure, but they had a horrible execution for it.
He’d probably drive a stolen lambo once and crash it. I can’t see Joker actually caring about material possessions, expensive cars… or sitting still for a couple of hours to get a tattoo, let alone several
Reckless.
The Young Justice version of Joker absolutely seems like they were going for the Heath Leger version but instead came up somewhere _between_ the Heath Leger and Jared Leto versions.
I genuinely don’t understand what people could dislike about Richard Epcar’s depiction of the joker. (Other than his Injustice 2 design but that’s a dev problem.)
His voice is just gravelly enough, he can be intimidating, but he still has the manic flamboyance. Also his laugh is my second favorite Joker laugh.
hes an amazing joker yeah comic book fans just complain a lot about things like that
I think Jared Leto with a better writer and director could have worked as the Joker. The metal teeth never bothered me because I could totally see Batman punching Joker's teeth out.
Interesting
I recall in one comic Batgirl knocked all of Joker's teeth out as revenge for paralyzing her, so it could in a work more focused on her.
I think what would have improved the portrayal would have been a post-credit scene where he walked into the shower, spit out the tooth bling, and washed off the tats. Then Harley walks in, sees his isn't permanent like her's, and she tries to kill him.
Tbh, the idea of that look just being the Joker trying something new for a day is oddly in-character (for some versions) lol
The grills is honestly the only thing i didnt really hate. Because the implication is that hes fought batman so much that just all his front teeth have been broken/knocked out at this point
Lmfao what a stupid take
@@johnLennon255 how so?
@@johnLennon255 Explain.
I still remember the day I saw that first picture of Jared Leto as The Joker. I was at a high school house party and it ruined my entire night
Worst live action? Jared Leto.
Worst animation? Kevin Pollak
It's funny to me how when they do that flashback animated thing for Harley that the joker actually looks true to the character in the animated version and looks nothing like their live-action version so why did they even bother making it look like the actual Joker like they tryin to insult us or something lol
Ledger's Joker's self analysis is also largely bs. Intentionally so. Like when he says "I'm an agent of chaos" and "do I look like a man with a plan?"... My guy, you are THE man with a plan.
Them trying to make the joker a hot topic gangsta was the worst part of the jared leto joker
If you told me Jared Leto’s joker was played designed and written by Pete Davidson. I’d believe you
If Kevin Pollack just did his Jack Nicolson impersonation it would probably be an improvement on his take of the Joker.
I know, right???? It's baffling.
Nostalgia critic did a review on suicide squad when the movie came out and in the review Jim (one of the crew) was doing a bit where he was so inspired by jerrad Leto he was method acting as Jerrod Leto playing the joker.
And I think this tiny bit in the video got the fundamentals of the joker better than Jerrod Leto and the entirety of suicide squad
Holy f*** someone mentioning nostalgia critic in 2023 and not shitting on him brutally???
@@N.I.A23 I mean it's a really old video I honestly have not watched him for a long time but I do know his content went down the shitter really bad
@ozthebeeman I honestly don't think he's near as bad as people make him out to be. Some of his "serious" video (can a joke go too far, why do good directors go bad, are the prequels better than the sequels) are REALLY well done, and I do agree with tons of his criticism. His sketches are a bit cringey to some but he's just having fun really.
Overall, I think the the hate he gets is over the top.
@@N.I.A23 I agree i still like the guy but his content is so stale. For a guy that makes fun of Disney for their formula he found his formula and sticks to it for a lot of the videos I saw and it got so boring. He does still make some good videos but they were rare so I just stopped watching his videos all together
i like to think the idea was Leto's Joker was Harley's view of Joker. her twisted pov, she could never see joker's obsession with Batman. She thought he was just eccentric (i.e the tattoos style and etc). and also that it was meant to be completely obvious that she fell for something false
I will always ADORE the young Justice joker purely on his character design and art style. Drawing wise, he’s my favorite animated joker.
I didn't like him. Nor did I like the version of Poison Ivy that came with him. Nowhere near beautiful enough to be worth dying for, which is what Ivy's supposed to be all about.
@@SeasideDetective2 fair enough! I know he isn’t exactly popular haha
I adore his "Ladies and gentlemen" quote so much.
I will always love Harley Quinn's adaption of joker more, being the fucking mayor of gotham just to stick it to a karen is fucking insane and I love it.
@@conscripthornet4430 WHERES MAH GODDAMN ELECTRIC CAH BRUCE???
Whenever I hear Vee Infuso talk about Jared Leto's Joker - I cant help but feel he is speaking my thoughts! The Justice League Snyder Cut Cameo... PERFECT! More or less... It certainly worked... But Leto's Joker was SO BAD otherwise...
However, I am actually going to DEFEND LETO... As this is an issue that plagues Batman! It seems NO ONE can make a Batman Movie without JOKER or WITHOUT HARLEY QUINN...
Batman has one of the largest Rouges Galleries of Any Super Hero - Yet every time a movie is made, JOKER OR HARLEY QUINN MUST BE REFRENCED OR APPEAR! And that's a major issue....
Take ALL THE SUICIDE SQUAD MOVIES... Harley Quinn is in all of them, She is in the games... She is PART O FTHE SUICIDE SQUAD... Screw the fact that The Suicide Squad PERDATES HARLEY QUINNS EXISTENCE PERIOD... Studios (Warner Bros.) are constantly playing Fan Service without understanding the property!
While I have yet to watch it - Even THE BATMAN has a nice End Credit scene where a NEW VILLAIN could be introduced and everything seems set up for HUSH... An Iconic villain that MANY FANS, Including myself want to see on the big screen... BUT NO - ITS THE F**KING JOKER AGAIN! CONFIRMED... THE DIRECTOR CONFIRMED ITS THE F**KING JOKER!
Give us a Joker who Lives, Who Batman refuses to kill, In ONE SINGLE MOVIE... Then have him be nothing more than a reference for a while, A Background part, Give us HUSH, PENGUIN, RIDDLER, FALSE FACE, THE MNAD HATTER, Then bring Joker back to the forefront... Having planned and waited and he was portrayed to have done in the animated "Killing Joke"
Constantly throwing him and Harley Front and Centre to play Fan Service KILLS THE THREAT! It becomes teh thing the the Joker should never be... BOOORING!
why does this read like a trump tweet lmao
That's less a problem with Batman films and more an issue with Batman in general. Joker's like DC's Wolverine, he'd be on a cover of an issue he isn't in just to sell more comics. Joker's too popular for his own good.
@@Scatmanseth Very True... Same with Harley Quinn... I love both character's, but even I can call overkill!
I have still not seen THE BATMAN but I did hear about the "Easter Egg" at the movies end - Saw a theory that it was going to be HUSH in the sequel but the director confirmed the mysterious figure was in fact The Joker...
It sad, there is so much potential in the DC universe... But no one seems to be able to get past Joker / Quinn!
Marvel are facing a similar problem, Robert Downey Junior was so good as Iron Man, Many fans seem to have fallen off since he decided to leave... (I will be frank, I also feel that leading with Infinity War was a mistake as legal issues aside, Kang the Conqueror is not as compelling as Thanos... In my opinion anyway!)
Every time I saw Joker with a grill. I mentally blocked it out so that I could completely forget it existed.
I'll ask because I didn't see it in this video but what was your take on Kevin Michael Richardson's Joker in The Batman cartoon series (which, if nothing else, had the best Batmobile IMHO )....
For the YJ I think they made him mediocre because they have other major villains they wanted to go into and the joker here is just to remind us that he exists. Because everybody has done Joker and if they had writers on just him. They could fill an entire show with just joker interacting being an agent of chaos even against darkseid.
It also doesn't make sense he is still alive in a world where Batman kills...
I genuinely hope to god that they cast Jim Carrey as Joker in the new DCEU. Not only does he physically fit the role, but he also has the acting chops to pull it off.
He's too old
@@johnLennon255So is the joker
I can't believe I never thought of that or no one ever tried to get him to play Joker. He's absolutely perfect. Even if it's just Jim Carrey being Jim Carrey I'd love to see it.
I feel like they should make another Batman cartoon where joker starts out goofy but as seasons pass he should get more and more viscous because of him trying to make Batman break. Also make him smart I’ve yet to see him be the genius that he is implied to be most of the time
I love and hate Young Justice Joker. His saving grace is that he’s better than Jared Leto and he is just insanely weird, but still he’s fine. Probably because, as you mentioned, he reminds of the Joker from the old cartoons/Silver Age.
I don’t mind young justice joker but that injustice one is the worst thing I’ve ever seen.
I remember thinking he was the worst as soon as I saw him in one scene.
Even worse than Jarrod Leto.
Leto didn't design the character, it's extremely near-sighted to blame the actor who just took a role that they were paid for for bad writing and character design. I hate Jared Leto, but the character's failure wasn't his fault.
It was his fault and you would know that if you had done just a little bit of research.
@@aldiascholarofthefirstsin1051 Cite a source or keep absently replying to month-old comments
While the movie may be a bit too weird overall and I understand the dislike for it, I loved the Joker in Batman: Ninja. He was just so animated and expressive, yet as seen in his final battle with Batman, he could be absolutely terrifying as well.
Jared Letos Joker always felt like those Joker Gang guys from Batman Beyond, recreations of a person theyve never met
i literally commented asking you to do this video and i’m so so so so so so so so so happy
What an amazing video.
I couldn’t agree more.
Jared Leto's Joker just wasn't scary. He always struck me as Justin Bieber breaking bad. Joker should have a sense of menace, that if you get in his way or just be in the wrong place at the wrong time, he might rip off your face to make a point or as a punchline.
This Joker, he feels like if you got in his way in Columbus Ohio let alone Gotham city, they'd find him laying face down in the city's sewage treatment pools.
Off topic, but the Punk Goes Crunk thing made me laugh. I havent thought about Lorene Drive in so long lmao
I think the Joker from Kill the Justice League might be the new worst video game Joker.
The only, and I mean ONLY thing I like about this Joker is that for once, he exists solely to serve Harley’s story. Since in every other piece of media she’s in, Harley only exists to serve the Joker and his story. In this case, the Joker needs Harley to exist for once, and it’s a huge breath of fresh air
I actually agree with all of your takes.
Jared's Joker would have been fine to me... If this was a Batman Beyond movie and is the Joker for that timeline.
Joker as a criminal mastermind is actually a relatively recent development. For a long time, he was just an impulsive madman who just wanted to kill people and get attention. He wasn't anything like Leto's Joker but he also didn't do everything for a reason. Hell, the death of Jason Todd was a spur-of-the-moment decision because someone delivered a tied-up Robin to him and he only realised after the fact that Batman would 100% kill him if he caught him after that.
Worst part of Leto's to me? When the camera is far enough away you cant see the tats because of how dark the film is, it doesnt look half bad. Then they get closer and ruin it.
I can't really hate Leto's Joker because the character barely did anything. He wasn't even the focus of the movies he's in.
New trash joker dropped
Young Justice Joker sounded like Nick Cage doing a Heath Ledger impression.
Joker got tatoos? That means he went to a tattoo artists and sat quietly while he got inked
disturbing thought. thank you
All these Jokers suffer from bad writing/dialogue, not the performance, not the visual (except for Letto's), and not the setting.
This is the first take of yours i disagreed with. I like Young Justice Joker.
I think the issue often arises when they add Joker in with other DC characters thay have powers. Joker works best in more grounded stories, but i didnt think his inclusion or portrayal here was all thay bad. He isnt really a main villain, he is a side character in the show
I heard this version of the character had all his teeth chipped punched out and broken by Batman and that's why he has silver caps
Weird, I thought I knew at least most of the DC video games but Batman: Dark Tomorrow flew right under my radar.
Just wait until Suicide Squad KTJL Joker come out
Yeah, I'd take a million Jokers with "damaged" tats on their forehead, when compared to this _Trickster (Dead By Daylight) wannabe ass, lazy eye-having ass _*_Jonkler_* with from... "another universe" -YEAH, I HOPE SO!
Knowing that for most of the people "True Jokers" are those who doesn't have anything in common with character, my guess there's a list of comic-based Joker.
Jared Leto on the first second proves me right
Jared Leto isn't comic-based Joker, he was an attempt to "modernize" comic-based Joker that ended up going horribly wrong.
@@youtubeneedstochange4414 He was based on All-star Batman and Robin, Batman R.I.P. and Return of the Dark Knight. Also actor was consulting with Grant Morrison himself about the Joker.
If the movie is bad, it doesn't mean that he's bad. Not to mention that he doesn't have to look or act like ledger and Phoenix, who doesn't have anything in common with the Joker
@@sobakaspyA bunch of stories that included bad renditions of DC characters? Basing anything off of All-Star Batman and Robin is a sure way to make bad media
Jared Leto sort of redeemed himself in the Snydercut version though
I see the logic of the Leto Joker, they needed a Joker that fits the tone of the movies, one that's more of a street thug Kingpin than a classic old timey gangster in a suit, i'm not a big fan of the design but I get the purpose of it when you look at how Harley and friends look
He sure is low energy though, nowhere near as bombastic, insidious or insane as an older Joker was, he just seems like a jackass and spouse abuser which is villainous but not super-villainous
People do love The Joker
Letos joker acts more like black mask from the animated stuff like under: the red hood. If we put a black skull mask on and took off the grills bros literally him. But he would also be a cool black mask for like a live action arkham origins (spoilers black mask is joker in that sorry). Id say her really did have potential but multiple factors really just cause it to no longer be "the joker" and more like you're average gta 5 roleplay character
Still love how Jared had more screen time in a promotional music video
I think the reason the YJ Joker was so bland was to keep people from wanting more of the character. If you were to take the best depictions of Joker and drop them into YJ, they wouldn’t fit in at all. All the best YJ villains were schemers with complex and very human motivations. Joker is a force of nature; he’s chaos incarnate. Thematically, he doesn’t mesh all that well with that show, which is why he was never more than a B-tier villain in that ‘verse.
Hot take:Kevin Pollack and Brent Spiner weren't bad Jokers.
Just curious, which Jokers (if any) do you consider bad?
For the Young Justice version there's something they could play on that might be interesting. "MY multiple personalities." What if it's like there's personalities that we just don't see? Like you said YJ skips over a TON of events between seasons 1 and 2.
The Injustice Joker sounds like an old leprauchan stuck in a nursing home.
I love how the video straight up starts with Leto's face
For what I ve read about OG Joker he was just another villain fighting Batman with and over phuns nowadays that Batman is so serious, yet fighting a mad clown is something that has to have a balance. Joker and Batman just cant both be all about darkness or phuns. There has to be a balance
How about joker from Batman hush
Just the concept of any version of the joker standing still for hours getting dozens of tattoos is just ridiculus. He's a pretty versatile character, but the tattoos just dont fit him. I think it would have been far more effective to keep the tattoos(not the exact ones Leto had cause they suck) but have them be scars. I think the concept of him staying up for hours carving these symbols into his own skin with a knife all night just for the sake of showmanship and pizzaz is far more in character, shocking, and gives far more insight.
Leto's interpretation for me felt fake, forced, unnatural, and overall a disgrace to all the Jokers before and after him.
If the Joker was gonna have tattoos: they would be messy, chaotic, incoherent, filled with noticeable scars and stretch marks.
If the Joker was gonna wear anything: It would symbolize his chaotic nature, but make him look like a Joker.
Leto wore tattoos that the Joker would never realistically have. He wears the most generic outfits imaginable. His laugh isn't sinister, scary, ominous, or even creepy, just flat and annoying, like he was going for The Simpson's Nelson laugh.
And him giving a crap about Harley? Seriously, none of the Jokers really cared about her, they ALL saw her as a useful idiot tool, nothing more. Leto's Joker felt more like it was designed around Harley's fantasy than anything else.
The arrangement of the knives scene: All I got from that was "Really?"
Him breaking into prison to rescue Harley: For 1, Joker would never do that. For 2, he wouldn't dress up as a guard to get in, he'd level the place.
If anything, Leto's Joker is the sanest but most seemingly desperate for attention interpretation I've ever seen.
And the most crucial bit that Leto seriously lacked is that the Joker while very clearly insane, always has something dark and humorous that tends to have words to shake the foundations of reality & morality, whereas he just sounds like a moron spitting random words hoping something will stick, like a failed actor.
Can you start labelling videos that are new versus when you’re reposting videos that already exist on your channel? I can’t tell anymore.
And what makes it worse is that he talks about the exact same things over and over.
I did. The Final Cut logo means it has recycled footage in it
I feel like Jared Leto’s joker is the Borderlands version of Joker. Also for how much shit he gets and how easy it is to hate it, but I am happy to see you can appreciate some of the portrayal’s characteristics
DC’s problem with the joker they made him too obsessed with Harley Quinn and not Batman. The role of joker was always to abandon harley because his true love is Batman.
"They gave us Harley Quinn's boyfriend" is the funniest description of the Leto Joker so far.
the iconic damaged forehead tattoo
Christian Bales Batman is equally as offensive as Jared Letos Joker. But, the fandoms still not ready to have that brutally honest conversation.
I've been saying the same thing for years...
Bale SUCKED as Batman, was almost as bad playing Bruce Wayne, and doesn't deserve the fandom or high praise that he gets for the role.
I'll add one more thing... Heath Ledger was NOT a good Joker.
Overrated is an understatement.
@@thisisnotachannelYou sound like Jack Nicholson playing himself but with makeup is an improvement. THAT Joker is overrated. Heath gave a performance that is unique to his character, it's memorable and solely his. Nicholson has been doing the same hammy performance since The Shining. He plays the same crazy dude in nearly every movie he's in, that's not Joker facing off against Batman in the 89' movie, that's Jack Nicholson with facepaint and a mouth prosthetic.
That conversation happened and people disagree with you on that.
@@thisisnotachannelBale was the best Bruce wayne ever, he is not as great as batman but still a miles better than thh chubby old killer ben Affleck, an insult to the character. Glad he is finally gone together with hack Snyder.