Very good way to compare this ship to others, I was pausing the video each time to find her and others in the lists. I was also trying to pick between the Forest Sherman and the Marceau so it was nice to see how they compared together and against ships I already have.
Thanks for the review. Looks like an interesting ship. As for commanders - the people who got Canarias (which is a quite decent ship) from the recent-ish event (where one had to choose between the Dido and the Canarias) can share commander and speed up the levelling process (for future tech tree ships as well).
Like the structure, clarity, and detail of your presentation, and the fact you are incorporating the kind of 'comparative' ship-type data we only used to get from Little White Mouse. Carry on, sir!
Since this ship was announced i grinded my Canarias resulting in a 17 point commander right now, because i don't want another op/meta ship but rather a fun ship. Anyway thx for the review.
After that much grinding in the Canarias what did you find is the best play style to get good games out of her? You may have more play time in that ship then anyone else, tell us what you know!
@@Swarm509 At the start of the match (first ~5 minutes) i play her like a light cruiser without smoke, hiding behind an island and using her shell ballistics to even hit something. Then there are 3 options: 1. Your team looses your flank, then you can easily retreat with ~40 kn and 10 km detectablity, since you have the speed of a dd for over 3 minutes (over 4 with the special engine boost upgrade for coal). 2. Your team wins the flank so you can use your quite impressing speed (with flag + engine boost) to quickly get behind the enemies creating a pretty good crossfire. At this tier most of them don't even realise that they are getting shot from behind, but if they do, get undectected and quickly change position before farming them again. 3. When your flank turns out to be a rough, but winnable fight (these rare hard fights where every shot could be important) you do the same on your flank like in 2. For these action i personally need 2/3 of the engine boost, not using the third one. This is because in some matches when your dd's died you need to get caps and eliminate the enemy dd's. Overall i found this playstyle to be like Edinburgh, since i played her without smoke. In addition you get the tool to quickly change your position. Needless to say that your flak is below average and your asw is pretty much non existing. For the first cancer class i try to dodge while driving over to my teammates "strengthen" the AA and than going somewhere else so the CV stops torturing me. For the 2nd cancer class i simply try to avoid them but when there is one directly near me i drop ASW and run away (if it isn't really game-changing to kill that sub now). Captain: 1: Incoming fire alert 1: Last stand 2: Focus fire training (little anti-cancer treatment) 3: Adrenaline Rush (of course) 3: Survivability Expert 3: Heavy AP Shells 4: Concealment Expert For the last 4 captain skill points i will get 1: Grease the Gears 3: Superintendent Ship improvements: 1st slot: Magazine Modification 1 2nd slot: Engine Room Protection or better: Engine Boost Modification 1 3rd slot: Aiming Systems Modification 1 4th slot: Propulsion Modification 1 Signals: Only Sierra Mike
I am likely to pick her up, I already have Marceau and F. Sherman. But I ran into her a few times when she was in testing and the burst fire and fade makes her extremely dangerous. Thanks for the indepth review!
@@PK-lo6ws There are video guides by much better players than me. But the big thing is, get good at speed juking people shooting at you. And learn to lead her shots, Marceau shells are VERY floaty. Also, she is much more comfortable to play with AFT for more range.
Since it is a destroyer and I am mainly a destroyer player I have my Spanish captain from the Canaris already maxed out at level 21. Just follow the news and check which ships you are interested in and which commander you need. Thanks for the review.
Just got one in a container, played 1 coop match for the Christmas event. in looking at reviews it looks like is an OK DD. Nothing that is OP. (as always) one mans opinion freely given and worth ALMOST that much.
Hey PQ, first of all I want to thank you for this really nice review, I really like how you go into detail. But there is one thing I suggest, I think our spanish wanna be super DD might be a pick in the upcoming cb season, since all the DD engagements you get in higher ranks are pretty short fights. The burst fire might be perfect to fight DDs, although pics such as Smaland, Ragnar and Kleber might be better. I'm looking forward to get it, well after the Malta :P
Hi. First of all, thank you for your videos. As I'm spanish -i dont like "spaniard "-, I'll purchase her for coal with no doubt. Just different. The first of a new tree in WoWS with that special burst (dont mention superships) And I already have a 21 commander, thanks to Canarias. In any case, I liked to know that is a "comfortable" ship. Although, for sure, you shouldnt cap in first instance whith her. Second line message was very clear. Thanks again.
I think the burst is really nice when the enemy is about to dip out of detection. i.e. when a sub goes to dive. Or a dd disappearing from smoke. You can burst it out. But like you really need to be patient and hold. Then fire everythang.
Just wanted to say one thing i loved about this review over some others was it didnt have a segment where you just sat and read out the numbers without any comment or comparison. Looking at you carbine carlito
The commander issue is why I won't get the ship right away. I do have the ECXP and the coal, but the rational person in me doesn't want to spend those resources to get the ship and make the captain work. 1. I wouldn't be too surprised if the nation gets a "age of sail" unique commander like the Dutch did when they get a tech-tree class in the future. Yet I don't expect the nation to get a second one in the near/intermediate future (or even at all). So I don't need two commanders, so raising one now is just a bad investment if you end up spending another 1.5-2.7M FXP to buff the unique captain to Lv19-21. 2. I don't have enough coal for two ships and my modus operandi is to keep a reserve for one ship if possible, so that I can always react if WG releases something that I REALLY want. So I'd rather not buy a ship ASAP if I end up not playing it in the forceable future anyway, unless I do a) have way too much coal and b) nothing else to buy at T10. And given that Malta will be released in the near future two, I'd rather go for that one. Not that I play CVs at all, but if I wanted I always could because you don't have those captain problems with a nation like UK as a veteran player.
Between Marceau , Forest Sherman and Alvaro de Bazan what DD do you recommend to get as my first coal DD for mission/ribbons farming? Thanks in advance !
Thank for your videos, I love how you introduce the ships. I hope we get a Spanish cruiser line ... they wer planned but, mmmh ... Álvaro de Bazan looks interesting and better then the Italian destroyer. Italian destroyer needs a buff. Hope the Spanish fleet get a special commander with nice and helpful skills
I wonder if they are going to introduce a Spanish line of ships with a burst fire "gimmick" and are using this DD to test the waters of that in lower tiers.
I mean this ship is for coal and there are two insanely good destroyers also for coal at the moment so I dont see the point of it sure the burst fire is fun and all but a battleship reload on a destroyer seems miserable
This ship is great for killing DDs especially if they about 65% health or less. I do a normal shot then if they down to below 50 hit F key. The burst dmg is great. I hit a full health Shima with F key AP and he went down to 4550Hp.
@@matsab7930 As a Sherman main, i agree. Sherman handles everything this ship can, but better imo. only positive is the 8 guns instead of 3, giving you salvo weight instead of constant melting power
I appreciate the honest review. When I faced a few of these in randoms, I thought they were super OP, but that was because they were blasting me with burst fire in multiple brief engagements. With enough oomph behind you, you could just push all-in on the AdB and crush it. Might consider getting it but I have a lot of other DDs to go for first. Been saving my coal for the T9 Black.
Yeah, if I was in a radar or hydro DD you take your hits and try to keep them spotted long enough to out damage them, ideally with friendlies helping. Going be a rough ship if you are lower health and she jumps you, she will always have that crazy damage potential even with low HP.
when i returned to the game after 7 year break, i played a lot of co-op and I'd only pick destroyers with depth charges, i thought that was the coolest thing ever...til i tried it in randoms! 😂😅
Great review as always PQ. I have all of the coal ships that I really wanted and was saving up for the Khaba since I never got it when it was a tech tree ship. But now I think I will get this one. Your pronunciation of its name wasn´t perfect, but it wasn´t that far off either, just so you know :)
Not bad, but a shame it's not in the EU line. Idk why that line isn't just renamed "Sweden" and be done with it. Maybe get it after the SP line comes out.
Sometimes, I feel there should be an option to double-like a video if it's really good. Perhaps limited to two or three such double-likes per day for any user. Thank you, that was awesome. Now I've got to look up the one about the other ship you talked about ... Incomparable, is it ?
It's just an okay ship it seems. Not really game changing and probably other ships that are better in it's role. It really needs a DPM upgrade or some sort of torpedo upgrade to be worth getting over say the Sherman or the Marceau.
It’s a easy pass for me. I have every tier ten and super ship DD and cannot see any use for this ship. That much coal or doubloons for a port queen, no thanks, but if could get it in a Santa Crate, now we’re talking. Maybe nexts year Christmas event, but not going to hold my breathe on that either. F.Y.I, I enjoy your videos.
You did well with the pronunciation. Alvaro de Bazan is one of the most important admirals of the age of sail, he never lost a battle. Thanks for the video!!
What seems slightly OP is the non-existant reload time before switching to the burst. It should be treated similar to swapping ammunition at least. Because you initially just reload for standard gunfire and by a press of a button suddenly have the burst available.
The torps are better than you'd think, check out the detection, only 1.1 km....those are almost as stealth as deep waters, except they can hit everything, there are 8, with a decently quick reload.
@@Corocotta15 Nono I'm actually commending him, I'm trying to say that his pronunciation is still correct even tho that's not the pronunciation from Spain
The funny button on this DD has me standoff-ish about it. Coming from experience going up against Conde in last season of CBs, I am weary of getting this ship.
I really enjoy the way you present information in this video. Very clear, good graphics, no bs. I get a good understanding of what the ship is like.
Very good way to compare this ship to others, I was pausing the video each time to find her and others in the lists.
I was also trying to pick between the Forest Sherman and the Marceau so it was nice to see how they compared together and against ships I already have.
D. Álvaro de Bazán was my ancestor, from my grandgrandfather side..Very proud of him...😊
As someone who is named Álvaro I'll say your pronunciation of Álvaro de Bazán is a solid 8/10. Very good
Thanks for the review. Looks like an interesting ship. As for commanders - the people who got Canarias (which is a quite decent ship) from the recent-ish event (where one had to choose between the Dido and the Canarias) can share commander and speed up the levelling process (for future tech tree ships as well).
I enjoyed the review, PQ . Hope you can make more review like this
Also have a good day
Like the structure, clarity, and detail of your presentation, and the fact you are incorporating the kind of 'comparative' ship-type data we only used to get from Little White Mouse. Carry on, sir!
This YT video just came with a Spanish language advertisement. KEKL
Best holistic review content on UA-cam so far. Thank you!
Thanks for an easy to understand review. This format your using is great.
Since this ship was announced i grinded my Canarias resulting in a 17 point commander right now, because i don't want another op/meta ship but rather a fun ship. Anyway thx for the review.
After that much grinding in the Canarias what did you find is the best play style to get good games out of her? You may have more play time in that ship then anyone else, tell us what you know!
@@Swarm509 At the start of the match (first ~5 minutes) i play her like a light cruiser without smoke, hiding behind an island and using her shell ballistics to even hit something. Then there are 3 options:
1. Your team looses your flank, then you can easily retreat with ~40 kn and 10 km detectablity, since you have the speed of a dd for over 3 minutes (over 4 with the special engine boost upgrade for coal).
2. Your team wins the flank so you can use your quite impressing speed (with flag + engine boost) to quickly get behind the enemies creating a pretty good crossfire. At this tier most of them don't even realise that they are getting shot from behind, but if they do, get undectected and quickly change position before farming them again.
3. When your flank turns out to be a rough, but winnable fight (these rare hard fights where every shot could be important) you do the same on your flank like in 2.
For these action i personally need 2/3 of the engine boost, not using the third one. This is because in some matches when your dd's died you need to get caps and eliminate the enemy dd's.
Overall i found this playstyle to be like Edinburgh, since i played her without smoke. In addition you get the tool to quickly change your position.
Needless to say that your flak is below average and your asw is pretty much non existing. For the first cancer class i try to dodge while driving over to my teammates "strengthen" the AA and than going somewhere else so the CV stops torturing me.
For the 2nd cancer class i simply try to avoid them but when there is one directly near me i drop ASW and run away (if it isn't really game-changing to kill that sub now).
Captain:
1: Incoming fire alert
1: Last stand
2: Focus fire training (little anti-cancer treatment)
3: Adrenaline Rush (of course)
3: Survivability Expert
3: Heavy AP Shells
4: Concealment Expert
For the last 4 captain skill points i will get
1: Grease the Gears
3: Superintendent
Ship improvements:
1st slot: Magazine Modification 1
2nd slot: Engine Room Protection
or better: Engine Boost Modification 1
3rd slot: Aiming Systems Modification 1
4th slot: Propulsion Modification 1
Signals: Only Sierra Mike
Your pronunciation was actually quite good! Great vid :)
good structured review, keep it coming pls
Very nice PQ, liking the review format
Epic review! Detail and to the point. Graphs very very useful! Great job PQ!
Your reveiws have been top notch so far, thanks !
I am likely to pick her up, I already have Marceau and F. Sherman. But I ran into her a few times when she was in testing and the burst fire and fade makes her extremely dangerous.
Thanks for the indepth review!
can you give me a few tips on playing marceau??
@@PK-lo6ws There are video guides by much better players than me. But the big thing is, get good at speed juking people shooting at you. And learn to lead her shots, Marceau shells are VERY floaty.
Also, she is much more comfortable to play with AFT for more range.
@@liirha ahh thanks
Good thing about the burst fire is it doesn't have limited charges like a reload booster
there is nothing good about this ,bad game design
Your pronunciation was on point
Since it is a destroyer and I am mainly a destroyer player I have my Spanish captain from the Canaris already maxed out at level 21. Just follow the news and check which ships you are interested in and which commander you need. Thanks for the review.
Ahoy hoy PQ. I love the new content. The mega reviews are very interesting and easy to follow.
Chart at 3:30 shows HE stats for Druid, are these secret buffs? ;D
that and forrest sherman ap pen at 10km chart before
You actually pronounced the ship good enough, so congrats
Another fantastic review Potato, thank you!
Just got one in a container, played 1 coop match for the Christmas event. in looking at reviews it looks like is an OK DD. Nothing that is OP. (as always) one mans opinion freely given and worth ALMOST that much.
Hey PQ, first of all I want to thank you for this really nice review, I really like how you go into detail.
But there is one thing I suggest, I think our spanish wanna be super DD might be a pick in the upcoming cb season, since all the DD engagements you get in higher ranks are pretty short fights. The burst fire might be perfect to fight DDs, although pics such as Smaland, Ragnar and Kleber might be better.
I'm looking forward to get it, well after the Malta :P
Great reviews -- excellent data and pacing. Always worth watching. Thanks
Love the charts and presentation. Well done
Hi. First of all, thank you for your videos. As I'm spanish -i dont like "spaniard "-, I'll purchase her for coal with no doubt. Just different. The first of a new tree in WoWS with that special burst (dont mention superships) And I already have a 21 commander, thanks to Canarias. In any case, I liked to know that is a "comfortable" ship. Although, for sure, you shouldnt cap in first instance whith her. Second line message was very clear. Thanks again.
I think the burst is really nice when the enemy is about to dip out of detection. i.e. when a sub goes to dive. Or a dd disappearing from smoke. You can burst it out. But like you really need to be patient and hold. Then fire everythang.
Just wanted to say one thing i loved about this review over some others was it didnt have a segment where you just sat and read out the numbers without any comment or comparison. Looking at you carbine carlito
How is druid on your fires per minute chart? it doesn't have HE
I love the look of it too. Really like the Spanish flag and hope to see their navy in the game.
Pretty good review PQ!
Really well done PQ
Worth coal, never in any way worth dubs.
Good review ^_^
Why is Druid present in the fires per minute list?
The commander issue is why I won't get the ship right away. I do have the ECXP and the coal, but the rational person in me doesn't want to spend those resources to get the ship and make the captain work.
1. I wouldn't be too surprised if the nation gets a "age of sail" unique commander like the Dutch did when they get a tech-tree class in the future. Yet I don't expect the nation to get a second one in the near/intermediate future (or even at all). So I don't need two commanders, so raising one now is just a bad investment if you end up spending another 1.5-2.7M FXP to buff the unique captain to Lv19-21.
2. I don't have enough coal for two ships and my modus operandi is to keep a reserve for one ship if possible, so that I can always react if WG releases something that I REALLY want.
So I'd rather not buy a ship ASAP if I end up not playing it in the forceable future anyway, unless I do a) have way too much coal and b) nothing else to buy at T10. And given that Malta will be released in the near future two, I'd rather go for that one. Not that I play CVs at all, but if I wanted I always could because you don't have those captain problems with a nation like UK as a veteran player.
it would be really nice if you could make a video on how to get submarine in world of warships 2022
plzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz because i'm try to get a submarine and i have no idea how to plzzz
Already got a Kleber, and now I am deciding between Marceau and Napoli. Any tips on which one I should pick next?
Between Marceau , Forest Sherman and Alvaro de Bazan what DD do you recommend to get as my first coal DD for mission/ribbons farming? Thanks in advance !
Very nice organize review, thanks.
Thank for your videos, I love how you introduce the ships.
I hope we get a Spanish cruiser line ... they wer planned but, mmmh ...
Álvaro de Bazan looks interesting and better then the Italian destroyer. Italian destroyer needs a buff.
Hope the Spanish fleet get a special commander with nice and helpful skills
I wonder if they are going to introduce a Spanish line of ships with a burst fire "gimmick" and are using this DD to test the waters of that in lower tiers.
I mean this ship is for coal and there are two insanely good destroyers also for coal at the moment so I dont see the point of it sure the burst fire is fun and all but a battleship reload on a destroyer seems miserable
It's more like Álvaro de BazAn, with énfasis on that last A, but overall great pronunciation!
Got the Black as my last coal ship, but Alvaro seems like she’ll be my next!
wow 11/10 for presentation
Hmmm sounds interesting but I'm really waiting for Velos, the Greek destroyer, any news on that?
Very nice review, thanks.
This ship is great for killing DDs especially if they about 65% health or less. I do a normal shot then if they down to below 50 hit F key. The burst dmg is great. I hit a full health Shima with F key AP and he went down to 4550Hp.
You actually pronounced it right.
Nice job PQ
It looks like a ship you should take when you like gunboats, but don't like the bad concealment of the french/russian lines.
Honestly I can’t see the point in this when f. Sherman exists
@@matsab7930 As a Sherman main, i agree. Sherman handles everything this ship can, but better imo. only positive is the 8 guns instead of 3, giving you salvo weight instead of constant melting power
I appreciate the honest review. When I faced a few of these in randoms, I thought they were super OP, but that was because they were blasting me with burst fire in multiple brief engagements. With enough oomph behind you, you could just push all-in on the AdB and crush it. Might consider getting it but I have a lot of other DDs to go for first. Been saving my coal for the T9 Black.
Black is not the same than before :(
Yeah, if I was in a radar or hydro DD you take your hits and try to keep them spotted long enough to out damage them, ideally with friendlies helping. Going be a rough ship if you are lower health and she jumps you, she will always have that crazy damage potential even with low HP.
Sorry if already asked… how’s the AA?
Great review! Looks like a decent DD. I might pick her up someday.
With that burst fire and smoke, I wonder if it may be one of the only ships that would benefit from dazzle as terrible a skill as it is
Just got this in a Santa Container. Pretty happy with that
Still waiting for malta, so i can decided which one is more worth my coal for my next ship
when i returned to the game after 7 year break, i played a lot of co-op and I'd only pick destroyers with depth charges, i thought that was the coolest thing ever...til i tried it in randoms! 😂😅
waiting for this one to drop
Great review as always PQ. I have all of the coal ships that I really wanted and was saving up for the Khaba since I never got it when it was a tech tree ship. But now I think I will get this one. Your pronunciation of its name wasn´t perfect, but it wasn´t that far off either, just so you know :)
I picked it up and I like it. Using a 14 pt commander
Not bad, but a shame it's not in the EU line. Idk why that line isn't just renamed "Sweden" and be done with it. Maybe get it after the SP line comes out.
Probably, in the future, will be at least 2 spanish lines. So...
Great Review. I am going to get the ship but i gona need to use some Steel to buy it.
Scharnhorst one take?
Thanks for the video as always. Interesting ship. Won't be picking her up anytime soon, however. Way way way too expensive!
Sometimes, I feel there should be an option to double-like a video if it's really good. Perhaps limited to two or three such double-likes per day for any user. Thank you, that was awesome. Now I've got to look up the one about the other ship you talked about ... Incomparable, is it ?
Did I hear you correctly 30 SECOND reload on cool down ?!
Now is 20, I think
Thx for review, with 360k coal sitting in my armory I'll get her for sure
When will we get burst fire bb ?
It's just an okay ship it seems. Not really game changing and probably other ships that are better in it's role. It really needs a DPM upgrade or some sort of torpedo upgrade to be worth getting over say the Sherman or the Marceau.
Fuckin WG puts the DD behind a 34k doubloon paywall for the first three weeks of release just to see which whale wants her before everyone else lmao
It’s a easy pass for me. I have every tier ten and super ship DD and cannot see any use for this ship. That much coal or doubloons for a port queen, no thanks, but if could get it in a Santa Crate, now we’re talking. Maybe nexts year Christmas event, but not going to hold my breathe on that either. F.Y.I, I enjoy your videos.
I have 300k coal I get her in Thursday , I allready have 2.4mil cap xp to get my first Spanish commander to 21p at once :)
im gona buy it! looks solid and well id never seen a spanish ship on the game, so why not??!! :)
but how will this help tom brady win another superbowl
You did well with the pronunciation. Alvaro de Bazan is one of the most important admirals of the age of sail, he never lost a battle. Thanks for the video!!
So basically a Spanish Grozovoi
Reviews are quite useful, For example, I won't be getting this ship. Good job though.
GJ
short answer no, long answer nooooooo
I will take it - for coal - just because i actually live in Spain.
Will be a pain with only 10 captain points.
If you have the Canarias then you can use it to help you grind up captain xp.
@@bravosierra2447 Don't own that one
What seems slightly OP is the non-existant reload time before switching to the burst.
It should be treated similar to swapping ammunition at least.
Because you initially just reload for standard gunfire and by a press of a button suddenly have the burst available.
Why? Swapping ammunition means taking shells back out of the guns. Burst firing means taking the shells... out the barrel.
My point is, if burst reload takes 19 seconds, there should also be an additional reload for switching from single to burst. Seems logical, right?
yes but a needed a yes or no
The torps are better than you'd think, check out the detection, only 1.1 km....those are almost as stealth as deep waters, except they can hit everything, there are 8, with a decently quick reload.
спасибо за обзор
Yeah. Take away Annapolis' alt fire and it will still wreck shop... This thing? Less so...
Could not stop laughing when i saw the price tag. No.
Actually, you don't need to have 21 pt cpt, having 4 mln elite xp is enough)
Bazán is pronounced “Bah-Thahn”
He pronounced the z like Argentinians do (and Latin Americans in general I think)
@@burt591 He did quiet well. Dont blame him for this little details.
@@Corocotta15 Nono I'm actually commending him, I'm trying to say that his pronunciation is still correct even tho that's not the pronunciation from Spain
Also i know i am kinda greedy but can you review about the New Tier 8 German BB - Aanhalt 😀
Much appreciated PQ😍
pretty sure it's under NDA still
Looks like another Khaba 2.0
I spot a Malta in your port…
Finally something to spend coal on
Not exactly a fan of the burst gimmick, I'd rather just swap it for a reload booster. Gonna be a pass for me.
The funny button on this DD has me standoff-ish about it. Coming from experience going up against Conde in last season of CBs, I am weary of getting this ship.
80 € for a single boat? really?
Meh, nothing interesting in this ship. Sounds like the burst is the best way to get caught pants down at the worst possible moment.
dpm better than the delny lmao
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