Older generations have been saying "nobody wants to work anymore" since the beginning of time. There are newspaper articles with this exact quote dating back to 1894
Another thing I hope Gen Z can break the cycle of or at least start to it’s annoying hearing folks who grew up in different generations putting each other down instead of helping. Not everyone is like that of course but there is enough that’s it’s annoying
And every single time they are correct…. It’s an objective fact that Gen Z puts the Z in Lazy. They then cry about it and make disingenuous arguments when people call them out on it.
@@3namechangezalowdevry90day7 have you heard of non-payed internships? Companies have been not paying their workers what their worth for years, decades. They love underpaying people too, Teacher strikes, public transit strikes, it's not new.
on job hopping: literally my boomer father is the one that gave me the advice to leave a job when you need to leave. i told him i was feeling bad about quitting this one job and he was like "don't ever feel bad about quitting. because if they were to let you go, are they gonna feel bad? no."
That is just a blantant excuse to hide thier motive it's thier greed and prioritizing thier capital income over thier human resource how you think the milenials have been complaining of being overworked and underpaid is like the system is design to keep the majority poor while the minority in economic power in other words stuck in a rat race this is why many are planning to start a business and other devious and greed being will want to terminate that plan out of greed.
It’s a political and systematic strategy to keep wages low. The reason they are paying low is because they don’t work for the pay. -this is their thought process not mine.
as a gen z, everytime i get a job i go above and beyond my duties and my boss notices that then adds to my duties and expects more and more over time, and thats why i get burnt out very quickly, never had a boss that didnt do this to me. its confusing because im being praised for being a good worker while also being picked at ab a million different tiny things that i "forgot" (usually something id never been told about or never had to do before and neither did my coworkers) i think a lot of older people assume that because your young you can handle it all.
are you me? 'cause i have this exact issue working at (DUNKABLE COFFEE CORPORATION), have been for over a year. my mind and body are completely breaking down. i cannot function in any areas of my life anymore. i finally told my manager i was gonna quit, and this is the first time in MONTHS that i've only had to work three days this week. she will berate her workers at random. she gets on me for missing fifty billion tasks that i either had no way of knowing about, or couldn't possibly remember. every time i step into work i fall back into trauma responses because even thinking about the store is stressful. also: i might be autistic (explains the years of burnout and general ... everything) and they are absolutely not accomodating. even if they claim to understand. but the entire concept of the job is a hellscape for neurodivergency, so in reality i need to quit. doesn't help that the adults in my life don't give a damn about my safety or health when it isn't directly serving them and the cult we're stuck in 🤷
One thing you'll have to learn if you work for someone else is if you're an over performer you won't be compared to standard job expectations you'll be compared to the standard you set.
As a millennial, I am PROUD of Gen-Z for saying, “I am here for the paycheck, I am not doing any extra work I am not getting paid for, and I *will* have a work life balance.” CHANGE THE GAME GEN-Z!
Me at work telling my coworkers I’m paid to be a cashier, not to be a loss prevention officer. I would not get any extra pay or compensation for getting punched in the face by someone who I caught stealing, so why would I put myself at risk of bodily harm? It’s none of my business 🤷♀️
Millennial here. God speed genz🫡 pls help us change it. Millennials speak out but Gen z has taken more action in regards to this conversation I guess. I personally have never heard or been around anything discussed here with the ‘lazy’ labels and topics etc. either. Millennials only talk about boomers and being mistreated in childhood. I know a lot of ppl a few years younger than me feel the same way and have spoken out on it as well. Keep up the good work 😂❤ love yall
I do taxes and I'm the youngest person in the room. During tax season the hours are long and people don't take their lunch. I had an older coworker tell me she was proud of me for always taking my lunch. I was astounded hearing that!! I'm taking my lunch!! I don't even want to be here for the other hours😂😂😂
My job wasted money to buy water jugs for medical assistants and gave them to us the week after medical assistant week all while people have been quitting in the past three months. Like…we don’t want some water jugs, give us raises or a bonus🫠 I’m quitting in December🤫
not to mention the fact that AI is starting to take over and impact so many industries. why bother getting a degree when the job you’re studying to go into may not even exist anymore by the time you graduate?
True. I got excellent work reviews and got a whole $5 A WEEK raise. Now, I only do what they pay me to do. No more going above and beyond or doing extra work that i am not paid for.
The job I’m currently at I heard the older coworkers say “no one wants to work nowadays.” Meanwhile the company cuts everyone’s hours as if we don’t need money to survive, gives the smallest raise ever & pays the bare minimum, no room to grow, never recognizes any of your hard work & how the company benefits from you being in your position, etc. Whenever I hear the phrase “no one wants to work anymore,” I immediately think the job/position is just plain and simply not good/beneficial or worth it to the worker, Espicially in the long run.
Corporations don’t drop you for “nothing”. They literally drop you to increase THEIR bottom line. When you drop them to increase YOUR bottom line it’s a problem? How?! 🤦🏾♀️✨
And I mean I have coworkers that are boomers, gen x and millennial and they all complain about work and wish to stop working if they could. Like everyone complains. But we all get up and show up at work the next day lmao.
They want us to be dumb as fuck like the other generations and get taken advantage of so therefore “ we are lazy we don’t work and we are grateful” but what it actually is is standing up for yourself
Thank you. I'm in Nigeria and abuse is normalized on a family level, like it's part of life. It got to the point where I couldn't accept help from people because I felt like they would want something I don't have. I also had a time where I was expecting difficulty at every "office" process I involved in, especially things that had to do with school. If I go to an office, I would expect to wait an hour before I spoke to anyone and definitely I'm spending the whole day there. Right now, I don't jump when a superior sneezes anymore, I've decided to choose myself. I mean if I die, work will go on and if I'm so important, it'll slow them down for a hot minute and that's it. There's been times I just stayed home and called in sick because I just wasn't feeling it😅. I made a comment in a group with my highschool class and people were like "good girl gone bad" 😂😂. I was punctual, civil, very nice and obedient. I did have a carefree side though; I chose to go to the library and read James Hardly Chase at 13 rather than be at an economics class 😅, I also defied my dad and sat for an art exam instead of economics (I hate social science and business 😢, I guess I've always known my boundaries). Another reason for us acting like we don't want to work is the fact that we all know it doesn't pay 🤷🏾♀️🤷🏾♀️. Hardwork and education were the keys we were told to find, then they changed the locks 😂😂 people used to say this when I was in the university and now I see with my own eyes 😂😂. I mean Jake Paul doesn't have any of them 🤷🏾♀️
I so agree! Just a few years ago everyone was saying how Milennials we are so lazy and not loyal, now all is turning to gen Z. I think it is just older generations don't like that we all want to have a better relationship with work.
Every generation is accused of being lazier than the generation prior. But that’s part of the point to progress, isn’t it? To make life easier for the next generation?
This is honestly one of the main reasons I’m afraid to get a job. I’m only 20 years old but the fact that this is a thing *and* I’m super nervous and shy (and have several disorders like autism and ADHD) is why I’m so afraid to work. The misery I can deal with since I just naturally am constantly miserable but I’m afraid of people
Pls don’t be afraid. That’s what they want, they want you to be afraid so you’ll be easier to be taken advantage of. As a 26 year old adhd having autist myself, who’s also black, I promise you that you can learn the game. Study people and study systems and learn how to navigate them while retaining your soul. It’s possible, I promise you ❤ just please, learn the game NOW
Same especially since i want to go above and beyond in my career that being software engineering then moving up to cybersecurity engineering , robotics engineering and lastly Ai engineering I know it’s probably impossible for me to do so because of adhd and autism that’s why I’m scared because I wasn’t to be able to handle it.
@@mx.chi2exactly I suffered because my dad purposefully kept me from attempting to get a job until I finally went behind his back when I was 21 but because of him holding me back I'm now 25 and feeling like I'm playing catch up compared to others my age who have a car and all my cousins were basically gifted a vehicle on a silver platter the minute they turned 18 and got a drivers license but since that first job I was pushed around and taken advantage to the point where it got too much multiple times and I lost said job multiple times I have slowly learned various lessons over that timeframe.... One key moment at my lastest job that I've had for almost 5 months now was when they kept sending over this really shit worker that they keep hired on and who I literally can't communicate with outside of a translator app and this specific building I am cleaning has VERY STRICT SECURITY POLICIES we have to lock every door behind us when we go into a room to clean purely because of the value of some of the deals and paperwork going through these offices I've seem checks with thousands of dollars on em just laying on desks so its big business I guess? But initially I mistakenly assumed they let this guy know all the particularities of this building they HAVE TO DO otherwise they will lose the right to clean the building and I was extremely wrong and on top of that the guy basically constantly didn't do all of his assigned duties and actively didn't lock doors behind him despite me pulling up my translator app MULTIPLE TIMES TO TELL HIM YOU HAVE TO LOCK THE DOORS BEHIND YOU! Suffice to say they sent this guy enough times within a short timeframe that building security was fucken pissed to find doors unlocked so fucking much (despite coming back constantly to lock em up when I should be doing my own section) that the management put the building on review (meaning judging whether I needed to be fired or not even though it was the floater guy (person who isn't stationed at one single building) who was creating the issues but essentially higher management trued to give me a write up for not micro managing some dipshit who couldn't follow instructions like LOCK THE FUCKING DOOR! AND for the first time in my life working I SHIT THAT SHIT DOWN REALLY QUICK! Texted my manager tons of messages showing evidence of the guy THEY sent leaving shit unlocked showed videos I took of me being forced to stay way overtime just to clean things the guy just didn't clean. And for one thing that write up got dropped really quickly and secondly when the review process began another worker who was working that building who clearly didn't want to be there got fired(he basically got the job pawned off by his mom he really didn't care and I get that) but he got fired but when they tried to review my work and abilities (clearly trying to clean house) I had all the supervisors and managers I worked with coming out the cracks going he's a good worker he doesn't create problems and he does his job don't fire him! 😂 I had managers and supervisors telling upper management THEIR BOSSES to not fire me which felt pretty good~~~ BUT THE POINT IS OF ALL THIS!!! The faster you get in the quicker you figure things out and then can start creating contacts and relationships and establishing job security even if you can't afford a car or your own place having a job JUST to start SAVING MONEY IS EXTREMELY VALUABLE because you have options at that point to branch out further invest in what you WANT to do, keep your mood up better by having money to go out and do recreational activities etc etc~
My dad who is Gen X was OVERWORKED in 2020 and he changed to a better job bc of that.. It's not just us being "entitled" it's literally us wanting a better workplace for everyone like you said. I am so glad you proved that point.
I feel bad for the people that think working hard or overworking = more pay. That’s not really the case these days and even overworking isn’t enough to pay the bills sometimes
Yes, I know in some cases in jobs I’ve worked I have or some of my coworkers have overworked and have been underpaid or been refused to pay. That’s what people don’t talk about with Gen Z. They think sometimes people are just lazy, but also people are refusing to pay us.
fr. when i worked fast food, people would get mad at me for only doing the bare minimum and not busting my arse. i’m like why should i? i’m getting paid the same amount that you are even though you act like you’re going to be promoted to CEO for doing too much 😂 i was getting paid minimum wage with no benefits, all while being treated like dirt by managers and being abused by customers all day with absolutely no protections. damn straight i’m only doing the bare minimum
@@coolchameleon21 yes! “Work your wage”! It speaks to the kind of work environment that the previous generations have been used to and they think it’s actually normal to be treated badly as a human being.
Preach!!!! Coming from a generation that actually will see their SS! While the rest of us won’t be able to collect by the time we need it cause it’ll be all gone🙄
The 'Gen Z has no loyalty' takes gets me HEATED! It's been 4 years since I've graduated. Of those 4 years - 23 of those months I was unemployed. TWENTY-THREE. Almost half of it. Why? Because the companies laid me off. I literalky don't want to hear anything out of their mouths. If you're going to treat it like a temp job, I'll treat it like a temp job. 😒😒😒
YES TO ALL THISS!! I graduated the same amount of years ago and have been employed those same amount of months! It’s ridiculous out here at this point 🙄
To be fair all gens are being laid off its not that corporation band together and collectively screw gen Z, its that the economy has gone to shit in the past 4 yrs, you can thank the govt for that. Blame boomers and millennials who vote for all these social programs that you will be on the hook for, whats funny is most gen Z will follow suit too screwing themselves over by voting for these "kind" policies.
fr. my brother recently got laid off even though he was one of the company’s best employees. he generated a ton of profit for this company while constantly increasing their savings, and they let him go with absolutely no warning. he was only given a month’s worth of unemployment.
No you don’t need to be loyal to corporations who generally don’t care about you and will and can replace you. Businesses that claim they’re “family” is just another excuse for them to overwork you for next to nothing. Anytime someone says to me we’re like a family at work, I immediately walk away. Your loyalty should only be given to people who earn it. Anytime you’re being mistreated at work, you leave. Companies aren’t loyal to you. You don’t owe them anything.
Had a conversation with my dad on this topic. He says my generation is lazy and doesn’t want to work. Meanwhile, he doesn’t hire inexperienced people because he doesn’t want to train them. How else do you expect young people to get the job done if old people like you don’t hire them solely because they don’t have 40 years of experience fresh out of school? You start at the bottom with no experience and work your way to the top. So wtf??
I have a coworker who acts like this. Acts like I don't do work and don't deserve the job, just because I'm not making my health exponentially worse when I get paid minimum wage. I'm chronically ill, and my boss actively has told me to not do more than what I feel I can physically do. Some days, that means I can't do much cleaning; other days I can do quite a bit. But this coworker still puts me down even when I clean a lot and have a good day, yet refuses to say what I do wrong. So many people just want to blame Gen Z for their own character flaws
“Gen z isn’t loyal!” My last job told me- literally- “it doesn’t matter how hard you work or how good your reviews are we will not give you a raise.” It’s not like they were being loyal to me 🤷♂️ it’s a 2 way street.
They're getting from us what they're giving to us, which is scorn and disinterest. Of course unlike us the people who could actually change that work environment can't hear us over their bottom line going up . . .
Not to mention that they’re switching to AI which rejects people WITH experience and accepts resumes also with AI or made for AI (ie: There has been reports of people putting in a prompt that says something similar to “Accept this candidate” in white and more than double the interviews)
@@wave1016 It depends on the field. Any engineering or technical field would have the most benefit lying about skills mostly because no one actually has 4 years of experience for certain tools/frameworks/etc when they came out 5 years ago. Plus, all of these are heavily documented and most people with zero experience can get up to working knowledge within a few weeks. Padding propr work experience with fake duties is a good way of accomplishing this. Grossly exaggerating your impact is also a good idea. Let's say you sent an email for work on a project and that project ended up launching and making the company $300 million. Guess what? That $300 million is because of your efforts. Once you realize that HR departments don't actually verify anything on your resume besides your start and end dates at other companies, you can get away with a lot. Hope this helps.
during my classes in college, my professors literally ENCOURAGED job hopping?? so how is that same generation telling us to do it going to say it’s our fault??
Because it's not the same people. Some older people know better because they have been in similar positions before. It's the loud and wrong ones of the same generation who gets most of the press.
Because it's not the same person. One person is a college educated professor. The other is someone who spent their whole life being told "this is how the world is, deal with it" and they did. Just goes to show how much an education can change your perspective of the world.
@@3namechangezalowdevry90day7 my brother in christ if you're miserable at your job odds are they're gonna sack you eventually anyway. Not only because of the "Make everyone think you like your job!!! :D" shit but because a depressed worker on the verge of crashing out isn't a very productive worker. Stop implying that leaving because of mental or physical health is an unforgivable sin or something.
@aegisScale If you show up on time and work hard, then you're far more valuable than someone with a fake "good attitude" toward a job they barely do. Most steady jobs are HELLHOLES. If your job was fun. fulfilling and paid well. lots of OTHER people would want it and you'd be easy to replace!
with the loyalty sentiment: we’re also living in a world where there’s MASSIVE disillusionment with institutions. big corporations are under waaay more scrutiny than before, and that trickles down into a mentality of “i’ll work for this company, but i’m not married to it.” (i’m gen z, i think this is a great outcome - don’t always trust institutions, trust people)
The work my wage attitude comes from that too. Working above and beyond became the standard bc people thought it would get them up in the world. We now see thats clearly not the case and working above and beyond just leads people into overworking themselves
Worked at a dominoes, Halloween was coming up and I was told it’s mandatory to work a couple hours, makes sense. People want pizza for their parties and stuff. Turned my 4 hour shift into 12 because my manager gave everyone else the day off. Once I found that out I was a no show and they begged me to come back a week later
As an older Gen Z (Born 1997), the real issue is that workplaces have unrealistic expectations. I have no problem with working hard but the jobs I've had didn't give me a chance.
Or never get promoted so you just burn out. I was always praised as the best retail worker, winning a nespresso maker from one job for being the top district selling (when someone gives my name when checking out), but I was never once promoted or received a raise. I was technically part time but because of my states law I was working 30 hours a week+ without getting benefits, PTO hours, and got 30minutes of sick hours per 40 hours worked (I think it was even more but I don’t want to over exaggerate the number accidentally). I finally left and am back in college. You are worth being happy ❤
With the cost of living going up and jobs refusing to pay their employees more but love giving them more work....yes of course people are jumping ship.
@@zizojaezekeom3565 It’s definitely fear and a lack of self-discipline. In this society, if you wait too long to make a move for freedom, you become content and accustomed to the consumer-debt mindset. Then over time they forget the cause. It’s a vicious cycle.
@@kliptretthats just a lie. Its been shown time and time again that many businesses in various sectors are increasing prices multiple times the rate of inflation.
The Plague of 2020 showed us that our systems are all messed up, and that there's better ways of living. I can't remember the source of the poll, but it asked milennials and Gen Z about what we would do if we didnt have to work didn't need money. Most people said they would do something that is some kind of work, but it was something based in their interests or how they would contribute to a happier society. So they deduced its not that we don't wanna work, its that the work in the world today is unfulfilling and no one is making enough to experience joy on a consistent enough basis for it to be worthwhile.
Uh, these sort of "interest activities" are not useful to society at all. Say you abolish society's current "messed up system", if you thought for a second that drawing nude art and making creamy latte is work that benefits society, then you, and Gen Z, have no idea how society functions and I pray yall don't have the power in numbers to make such retarded "change". The jobs we have now are voluntary contracts you agree to with your employer to get paid worth your time, while you deliver a product of sort that benefits the employer, to which the employer uses it for other means and investments. This is applied to miners, office work, cashers, pharamcists, factory workers and etc... This system led to an abundance of goods and a better quality of life for everyone. I am not going to argue our system is "good", because it's not, it has so much flaw and I can trace most of them to the corrupt government, but this sort of "utopia" that somehow doing retarded "artistic work" will somehow save humanity, is mind boggling.
Yep, if I didn't have to work for a living I would be writing, maybe drawing, and finally get into woodworking. There really isn't point in most jobs nowadays
I always come back to this too! Like, regardless of how accurate the statement is “gen z doesn’t want to work” I’m always like, okay but, why should we have to? Why should labor be something we are excited about and want to do for the rest of our lives? Why is it “morally wrong” for me to wish and want a life where I don’t have to do work to survive? Where I could just have fun? Where I could just enjoy life? Why do I HAVE to WANT to do work? (If anyone wants to reply to this with “that’s just how the world is” or anything along those lines, plz don’t. I’m working right now as I type this, I have a job and will probably always need to do it. I don’t want to hear about how I cannot enjoy life the way I would like to. Thank you)
In my last job , if I was 3 minutes late they'd take it off my paycheck ,but then expected me to stay working late for 45mins-1hour without paying me , I said if you want me to work late , pay me. All of a sudden I got the "your generations so lazy" rant, it's tiring .
Heavy reminder as well for young people in the workforce, HR works for the company, not for you. HR is to protect company, not you. Go to HR if you feel you need but also be cautious. I've had HR protect terrible, hateful people while telling me the issue has been solved.
Union reps are the actual hr, but even then they aren't really going to be your friend, just making sure whether or not your being exploited. And if your dragging them down as well, often they'll say you aren't holding up your end.
Yes, absolutely! HR is not your friend. They are paid by the employer, which means they work for the employer. Their top priority is to reduce liability for the employer. If you do have to go to HR, make sure you have written documented proof of what happened or why. Try to get their responses in writing. Just as they document everything on you, you have to have your own documentation to protect yourself. Edit: Also your co-workers and especially supervisors are not your friends. They will stab you in the back if it means it will protect their job. Not saying it's right, but it does happen.
Former HR manager here and YES I tell people this all the time! We are there to look out for the company’s best interests, not to protect you. If it came down to protecting the company or siding with the employee, it’s the company every time.
Keep pushing back Gen Z! I’m a millennial and have felt like y’all do my whole life. Y’all are being misrepresented intentionally. This economic and societal structure is some foolishness and y’all aren’t putting up with it! I support you wholeheartedly!!!
@@briannawatt4741I'm a gen x who doesn't hate you. Keep pushing back, but be aware that the technology exists to make your jobs disappear. Focus on jobs like trades that will always need skilled employees
Exactly, don't become complacent. This is going to be your world, you get to define what works for you. It SHOULD look different, life moves forward and so it should. Every generation has "lazy" people, it's so unfair to label an entire generation like that
@@briannawatt4741 Most Millennials don't hate you, except for the negative ones who hate everyone. We're facing so many issues that affect both generations equally.
EXACTLY! This is what kills me! Like, come on! You don't even teach people how to do the job! It's the companies that are cheap, *shady* and lazy, not us.
@@skyhiireke5027 I’m convinced it’s so we produce mediocre work so they always have an excuse to lay us off or keep wages low. Companies are cheap and shady indeed
This right here I been working my new job for almost a month and I have yet to be trained the employees that they have supposedly training me have literally been working there for two months and are still learning the job themselves so I don’t understand how they want me to learn a job from someone who doesn’t even know the job they are having my take online training classes as well where I’m learning absolutely nothing
@@Crazyroller92 it’s so our work stays subpar and they have an excuse to lay us off or deny promotion, or at least that’s what I’m convinced theyre trying to do
I’m 29 and have only ever worked low paying jobs. I had an internship for a much higher paying job, they promised to hire me. 8 months later they let me go. Work is bullshit.
I’m an autistic gen Z. I’ve been desperately trying to get a job, as Im taking a gap year to save up for college. I only asked for 2 things. 1: The ability to wearn noise reducing headphones while working, and 2: 1 extra 10 minute break I can take if I get overstimulated. I’ve explained that if I get those accommodations, I’d be able to work significantly better. I’m more than qualified for all the jobs I’ve been interviewed for; I had some of the highest grades of my graduating class, I’ve volunteered at the ASPCA every weekend for the past 3 years, etc. I have basically everything employers are looking for. I’ve been interviewed for 7 jobs in the past month. I’ve been denied from 7 jobs in the past month. The biggest reasons? I’m “asking for too much” (aka basic disability accommodations??) and that I’m “not what they’re looking for” The jobs I’ve applied for? Grocery bagger, cashier, barista and A MCDONALDS CHEF. I got denied for a job for FLIPPING BURGERS. I’m currently doing food delivery, and it’s horrible. I’m making less than minimum wage for 10x the work. I have another interview next week, wish me luck🫠
How do you get denied a job by McDonald's? That's pure insanity. from what I can see, these people who are hiring think they're so high and mighty that they can just deny deny deny. Completely unreasonable
If you live in a single party consent state, record the person saying that the basic disability accommodations are too much for the company, and report them
As a gen z worker, older coworkers love to complain about how gen z doesn’t wanna work. But when they do wanna work, they treat them like babies and will criticize you based on your age.
I’m a 30 year old man who works a job that requires me to often be at a new job site every day. You’d not believe how many comments I get about being young. One guy even did the “what’s the magic word” to me last week because I said “could you hand me that paper” like boomers do to kids in preschool and then said he did it because I’m as old as his grandkids. Mostly they’ll just refer to me as the kid or young man though. They at least like try to hide their sexism but are so open about the way they view people in their 20’s as a kid who knows nothing
@@monhi64 I get we're the youngest and most inexperienced adults in our 20's but we're not literal toddlers and we want to be treated like adults. I'm not in my 20's yet but I hope the time I hit them, things are better. I'm on the younger end of Gen Z and I hope it gets better from here. I'm 17 btw.
Also, like… The boomers and GenX people are the LAZIEST, SLOPPIEST people in my workplace. It’s usually the millennial and, yes, GenZ workers picking up for THEIR slack.
@@monhi64if someone said that to me I would actually start throwing hands, I'm not a toddler and I had to deal with enough "your generation is the worst!" Bs for a lifetime, I literally read and it actually made me mad
Bro I’ve had 60 year old dudes go on their 4th break this morning cause I asked to share the same workspace with them. Id get fired for that but he knows he wont.
Companies don't wanna train any new people. That's their issue. They could make the perfect employee with all the skill just by training them but no job hires without any experience. So where do we start?
@@Rebecca-bq4ez It's a prisoner's dillemma, then, because all the other companies feel the same way. Now they are desperate to hire senior levels but there are no senior levels because they keep people in entry level roles for 10 years and refuse to onboard new people. They've shot themselves in the foot. So much for being logical. Companies are clowns.
“ Isn't experience just another measure of age?” No there’s a pretty big difference between a farm kid that drove grain trucks and heavy equipment vs a city kid that barely drives.
@@Lulu_Loves_Sheep By definition? Yes. By law? No because we aren't over the age of 40 and ageism can apparently only happen one direction, in the middle of middle age, somehow
I graduated college last year and had 15 plus interviews, probably about 500 applications and have received no offers! I feel like saying this to hide the fact they don’t have the money to hire more people. 🤷🏾♀️
Millennial reporting in…guys, keep doing what you’re doing. I’m so proud of all of you that have the guts to say “enough is enough”. Millennials had this mindset but didn’t have the luxury (per-say) to “stand on business” because many of us graduated college during the Great Recession. We had to take what we could get and deal with it. And to be clear, we were also called unemployable and lazy by the Boomers. I have a great hope that once they FINALLY retire that things might have a chance at changing.
my boomer father gets so mad when i tell him im not applying for jobs that don’t have salary/per hour pay posted lol like either tell me if it’s worth applying for or im not wasting my time taking those foolish ass ‘company personality tests’
Help, the skit to this video is sending me lmaooo. But in reality, I think most of Gen Z (including myself) is tired of just working and not having a “work-life” balance outside of it. We feel like those hours are wasted, and we can never get those back 🙃.
exactly. we spend the bulk of our day, 5 (sometimes 6) days a week working. all i can think of while at work is how much of my life is going down the drain, all that time i will never get back. if you work a 9-5, you’re lucky if you get 4 hours to yourself in a day. barely any time to spend with loved ones, for hobbies, for chores, for passion projects, etc. and many of us can’t even afford a house. it’s bleak. i’d be fine with working if work life balance was actually a balance. 5 days of work and 2 days off is not balance
Working feels like using a dating app and it tires me out very quickly. I spend a few months scrolling through different people and reaching out with no meaningful responses and then when I finally do get a good conversation its just a situationship for like 3-6 months
I made the mistake of being overly loyal to any company that I worked for… they don’t give a shit about you. That’s why we’re only doing what’s asked now.
Same I am always told "Think about the company the company comes first" and I'll be quick to jump In and help out but at a certain point it starts to drain you mentally, physically and emotionally.
Being younger GenZ entering the world looking at my whole generation being slammed before I ever had a chance to be a part of what's being discussed is so depressing. I'm 17 and have been looking for a job for a while now. I have 12 years of Girl Scouts and a leadership and community service club under my belt, and I have a strong drive to work because I'm staring down the barrel of my 18th birthday, soon after which I'll be basically kicked out. Nowhere is hiring, the places that are refuse to hire GenZ, and left and right I'm being told I'm lazy and entitled and useless simply because of the time period I was born in. Wild shit.
Right? Even fast food won’t accept me, also a teen GenZ, I’ve applied to every possible opportunity in my town and…nothing. Literally nothing. I’ve been told “all our positions are full” too many times for the amount of hiring signs I see
It’s really hard for everyone to find a job nowadays. Companies are not trying to hire and want all their employees to have experience. I’ve gone months without a job in the past
Annoying asf, how is constantly seeking employment lazy. Boomers don't having f'ing brains and aren't as smart as they think. How arrogant of someone to claim an entire generation doesn't want to work but never had to experience what it's like to live like this
I was born in 1999, and even I'm feeling this "we expect x, y, and z from you, but we're going pay you and support you for half of your worth." vibe, assuming that I'm not auto-rejected from apply for jobs. It's unreal how many expectations are on the workers, and how the companies enjoy just letting things slide instead of actually seeing workers as people. I applied for an entry level job at Walmart and was rejected same day within a couple of hours. I was over qualified, as I've been working in customer service since high-school. Likewise, I don't blame the new generations for not wanting to work, why should they want to when every other generation is too busy letting us know how good they have it while giving us their table scraps.
Oh and having worked with gen z it’s a mixed bag like it is with everyone but on the most part I think they just take job descriptions literally when it comes to hours of work, expectations etc. when they’re given “opportunities” to do more for nothing in the work place they see it for what it is, a waste of time. They aren’t mega focused on working their way up the ladder in their current job because they know that likely won’t happen if they want to move up they consider leaving. They’re right and I support all of that.
As a Gen Z I can second that. I take my job descriptions literally and if they suddenly tack on A LOT of unsaid things once I’m “hired” that’s an immediate turn off (I’ll probably still work but definitely is a bad mark in my books and lowers my “worker morale”).
The only reason most of us take those "opportunities" is to put it on the resume for a better next job. Clearly not all will work well flr that, but for me, it was useful to leverage resposibilites i had at past places into a better job somewhere else.
Exactly. They aren't going to promote you or give you a raise. Upward mobility is a thing of the past. Why would they promote someone internally and be forced to give them a modest pay increase when they could bring in someone new and trick them into accepting a job managing people who are only making a few pennies' difference than them? This is why they don't want you to discuss your salary. Because then everyone will find out that they're being severely underpaid.
I only started taking my job descriptions more literally after in my first job I was told to wander and keep an eye on things at an art festival, and because it was my first job I had never known that having my phone out meant that I wasn’t doing my job, meanwhile the other workers were camped out at one part of the festival talking for hours. I was sent home and warned I would be fired next time and was run ragged the rest of my time there making 20+ laps at the festival because every time I stopped I was being reprimanded and no one else was. Then I switched to a different job at the same festival and was required to do menial booking. Until my not boss told me I had to do his job, I looked at myself and then the other people in my position and realized I did 3x more work in the booking and was also given my bosses work and was being paid less than them. I no showed during the off season and never went back. Now when I work I know how to communicate with a boss and make sure I only do what won’t burn me out. I still do an above and beyond job but I don’t let myself get taken advantage of.
@@zadarasimoleons1019 Very true, and this is sometimes top-down enforced even in positive workplaces. The place I work right now treats us all insanely well (like actual human beings) but the department is under management of another department and doesn't decide their pay or all their policies independently. Every year they fight for raises for all of us and generally are very successful (11% raise two years ago, 30% raise last year. low wage job so this was financially reasonable although I'm sure the percentages will decrease now as the wage increases). However they can't leverage the department that employs our grad students so even though they work here, they're paid there. If we get one more dollar on our pay we'll have some undergraduates making more than the graduate students who manage them...
I’m 29 and everyone I know that doesn’t stay at a job no longer than 4 years are doing extremely well for their careers. I don’t believe in job loyalty
My dad got laid off from his job of over 15 years in 2008. A lot of Gen z were kids during the recession and I think that influences a lot of the ways we view work. Why put so much into a job that will eventually lay me off and doesn’t even afford me the basic cost of living? What are we even working for? Love your Gen Z content by the way, you do a great job of encapsulating the thoughts and trends of this generation.
Right like I saw the affects of the recession, and then saw my mom get laid off not even a decade later from the BIGGEST industry in my state. And then she went to work for the government. And i saw how many times they shut down. So yeah, I don't have blind faith in companies. I've only had one job I truly loved, which was a small coffee shop with coworkers my age but even that had issues. Now I'm at some bunk office job. I'm not even gonna pretend I'm not here for anything but the money and benefits
So true! I remember that feeling of hopelessness sinking in as a child, too. It was wild being so young and jaded. I’m kind of sad it wasn’t just my experience. That shouldn’t have been the norm
as a gen z who loves to work hard nobody wants to hire me because I don’t have any experience even tho i’m applying to entry level jobs. no shit I have no experience Im 16 trying to get a job for the first time at taco bell why do i need experience? I have applied to 25 seperate places and they either ghost me, say i’m unqualified, interview me and then ghost me, say that I need to be 18 ( keep in mind these job listings literally SAY they are for 16-17 year olds) or they just reject my application. I wouldn’t say my generation don’t want to work, I think it’s a couple different people ruining it for everyone. I am, and a lot of my friends are very hardworking and nobody can seem to find a job. The issue isn’t my resume either, and Ive always said I can work the most hours possible, even holidays.
I’m older Gen Z (1998), and I graduated with my bachelor’s in 2020. I haven’t had trouble getting jobs, but getting jobs that pay well was a constant struggle. I encourage everyone I know to job hop. Otherwise, you’re going to find yourself sitting at a job for 20 years making maybe 10% more than you made when you started. There’s not as much mobility as there once was because people don’t seem to be retiring.
No loyalty also makes me mad… the amount of people I know (boomer and Genx) that have been laid off right before retirement is insane. Many companies have no loyalty or morals when it comes to their employees and it’s crazyyyy
I feel like half the Gen Z discourse is so silly because it’s not a generationally specific thing…it’s an age thing. 18-25 year olds have always been looked down on and less likely to get hired. I’m a Millennial and when I graduated, there was a “Millennials only care about work life balance and don’t want to put in the work.” But as people get further up the ladder, they’re usually compensated enough where this issues no longer matter. If you’re a Gen Z’er making $40k/year in a major city…of course you’re not dreaming about work or putting your company first. You know you’re disposable. And of course a 40-50 something making six figures in an inflated role is going to be all “y’all don’t work hard enough.” I can guarantee that in 10-15 years, the same Gen Z will be shitting on Gen Alpha. The old heads shit on the younger ones. The seniors shit on the freshmen and forgot that they were just like them not too long ago…
Before social media, I would agree with you that Gen Z would talk down on Gen alpha. But now that it's all out in the open for the average person to analyze the bigger picture, I don't think this trend will continue. The constant exposure to news about crises and economic instability through social media, has left most of Gen Z in a different mindset compared to previous generations. I'm expecting Gen Z to either be completely nihilistic, or extremely altruistic toward Gen alpha...nothing in between.
@goosewithagibus I don't know where you live, but $40K in a big city in America would leave most people broke. A huge portion of that salary is taken out for taxes, and then there's rent, food, and bills. Don't even get me started on roommates, which is the only way to reduce rent unless you live with family.
@tvu24 I live in Salt Lake. It's decently expensive here. But I've done fine on 20k for years now. I could definitely do with more, but having double the income sounds insane. I'd probably just save 10-15k a year. I am a minimalist and pretty frugal though. And I refuse to use credit cards, which most Americans use. So maybe it's easier for me 🤷♂️
as a french person who studies sociology, we've be told that americans live to work vs french who work to live. i feel like gen z impersonates the change of mindset from puting your work life as a priority to puting your personal life and mental health as a priority
Honestly at this point Americans are working just to survive. Our affordable food is full of chemicals and preservatives that are illegal in other countries while food that is clean and organic that holds up to say the uk basic standards is triple the price. Add to that outrageous rent prices and healthcare that’s not as affordable as they want you to think and you are going to work just to pay bills, buy groceries and praying you don’t get sick
@@scottrobinson9334 I feel you. THough not an American. I live in Europe. Please, invest in at least some gold and silver jewellry every month. So that after several months, you will have several silver and gold jewellries - just collect them cause you can always rely on them in times of need. And, of course, not to mention, saving money helps, too, however, I know well saving money isnt that realistic with current prices. BUT - please, try to buy the higher quality food and beverages as many times as possible, despite all difficulties. You can start slow. Also, dont forget about some spirituality, as well. Pray a lot to good spiritual entities and ask them for abundance. Relax a lot and develop a stressless mindset, while focusing on investing in silver and gold. Teach others in your country about these things, too. Best wishes.
American work culture is really messed up. We are all forced into this system, but it doesn't mean we like it. I wish I had 5 weeks of PTO like Europeans and the more laid back atmosphere. In american companies, everything is always a fire, they run intentionally short staffed to save costs and then work the employees to the bone until they burn out and break, then the company kicks them to the trash. But many people here are bootlickers and defend the system. They hate their lives so they become workaholics to compensate, and demand the rest of us join them.
I remember watching a video in highschool that was basically "here's why America is shit, and where every other country does it better" 😂 and it focused on France for its work environment. The pay? The vacation time? Maternity leave?? PATERNITY LEAVE??? Y'all are doing it right! 👏
@@chattycatty3336 half the reason I wanna move out of this godforsaken country. I'm not even in the workforce yet (just a student) and all I'm getting from America is the vibe of "WORKWORKWORKWORK oh you're sick? oh you're sad? oh you have a kid on the way? oh your arms are on the verge of breaking from all of the work? FUCK OFF WORKWORKWORKWORKWORK" and the thought of spending the rest of my life like that (because lord knows I'd never retire with how little they pay us) gives me constant stress headaches and procrastination issues.
As a mid range Gen z I’ve quit 4 jobs over the years. 3/4 jobs have begged me to comeback, like I’m sorry no. You literally treated me like garbage, and now you want me back for the same amount of pay because you realized I was a good employee. One of those jobs the regional manager came to me and asked if I would consider just working weekends. I said no, working 5 days a work is already a lot for me (I have a chronic illness that effects my whole body) working 7 days a week for 2 different companies is a hell no from my body.
The "we don't hire gen z" people are the same people who would CRY discrimination if a person 50+ wasn't hired. Why are seniors protected from age discrimination, and we aren't?
I think older generations were abused and they want us to feel abused because they want to be understood. They're in pain. We're all in existential pain. It's the good Ole "We had to suffer, so you gotta suffer too" syndrome.
gosh please your last statement hit me so hard. apparently in my state, there is such a high demand for court reporters that we are considered in a state of emergency, so i went to school. every time i try to apply, they want 5 years experience. i cant get 5 years experience if no one will hire me. the ONE job application that didn’t have any required experience required on the listing interviewed me and said they were looking for someone with 3 years experience. cant win.
I had a coworker yell at me for wearing a skort to a golf charity event and the girl got so hot when I very calmly said “I didn’t like the way you spoke to me, I wish this conversation could have gone differently” babes I am not the one!
That’s so wrong of her. I really wish some of this predominant discourse could include how many work practices that are very common amongst older generations are actually very unprofessional, much more so than the generalized “Gen Z behavior.”
I mean it probably wouldn’t be acceptable in an office setting but you’re at a sports event, the dress code is obviously going to be different. If it was just a miniskirt I could definitely see why that could be a problem but a skort is made so everything is covered up. At that point you’re just nitpicking.
Older generations wanting us to go through what they went through is just such a foreign concept to me. I'm turning 21 soon, and I'm already hoping and praying for a better future for those who come after me. I don't want them to go through the same things I've gone through so far. Wishing hardships on other people just because you had to deal with them is just so gross, and sounds like an exhausting way to live.
I've known older people in the work place who are lazy or incompetent, I've known younger people who are lazy or incompetent. There is no age limit on stupidity.
im reading so many news articles about boomers complaining genz wanting flexability, hybrid work, work life balance, no overtime and treating everyone as equals as work...like isn't that a good thing? lol
Okay can we talk about how it’s literally ILLEGAL to not hire someone based on age!? It’s in the constitution. Age is a protected group. Edit: y'all. I'm not young and naive. I know it's difficult to prove age discrimination in a court of law, and even more so for young people. I was just making a point. Please stop being condescending. Another edit: PLEASE STOP REPLYING TO THIS AND TELLING ME I’M WRONG. I AM NOT WRONG THAT THE CONSTITUTION DOES NOT SPECIFY AGE. THAT’S ALL I WAS SAYING.
It may be illegal, but it's hard to prove that someone discriminated based on age. They'll do their best to make it seem like that wasn't the reason they didn't hire someone, despite it being the reason.
If you’re talking about the Age Discrimination in Employee Act, it only forbids age discrimination of those 40 years or older so it still doesn’t apply 😭 and on top of that, it’s like the other commenter said, as well: how could you prove that’s what you’re experiencing especially if they never state that as their reasoning. I will say that some states have laws that protect younger generations, but those obviously aren’t constitutional or federal.
@1nerd187 unfortunately, and you will understand this as you get older, you can be very qualified, but someone else may have more work experience and life experience that will make it easier for them to jump into the role, and that makes it hard to prove they were discriminating. There are jobs that I have had in the past that I would be much better at now, not because I am more qualified, but because I have experience understanding the workforce, work culture, and how to ask appropriate questiond to get the training I need and how to advocate for myself.
@ I appreciate the attempt to advise, but I am not that young. I have had many jobs. I'm not really sure where you got the idea I wouldn't know that some people have more experience and are more qualified for certain jobs. That's common sense. I've interviewed and held my fair share of jobs. I don't appreciate the condescension.
I feel like back when my parents'grandparents entered the workforce, going above and beyond and putting in that extra effort meant they would be recognized and given a raise or a promotion. For us that's just not true. Since it's an "expected" behavior they won't reward it, especially because all the higher up positions are already filled by boomers/gen x and they aren't willing to give it up. I used to go above and beyond but when I realized that it didn't matter and the people who needed to notice didn't, I stopped. The work experience thing sucks so bad too. I graduated college during covid, so I had to take a retail job right out of college (even though I literally have an engineering degree) because that's all I can find. Eventually I got a job that was slightly more relevant? but all employers see when I apply for the types of jobs that I LITERALLY went to school for is that I'm 27 with no relevant work experience so they don't want me. it's so frustrating.
I definitely feel you. Those of us millennials who graduated at the height of the Great Recession had a similar impact experience. I’d like to say it gets better, but for a lot of us it never did and we were never able to secure jobs in our fields. Best thing I can recommend is trying to forge your own path somehow. Whether that’s going Freelance or trying the entrepreneur route. I managed to carve out a place in my field as a consultant, though it’s not at all what I imagined my career would be at this point. Best of luck to you!
I got told at my previous job that I in spite of having a really productive year and exceeding all my goals, I could not get "exceeds expectations" on my performance review (and the 5% raise that comes with it) because I got "exceeds expectations" last year. So best they could give me was "meets expectations" and a 2.5% raise - so not even beating inflation at that point. Like why even try or care if there's no incentive?? I left that job and am on to a different one now that hopefully has better growth potential but I'm incredibly jaded at this point so I'm not holding my breath. I'm a younger millennial (born 95) but I very much align with Gen Z in all matters related to the workplace.
I think you should give extra effort for your own career. When you apply to other jobs you want to have a good track record of work, that makes you competitive.
I had the same experience after graduating, and that was before covid. I couldn't get anything in my field because they all wanted experience. Even the internships I applied to wanted experience, which is why I couldn't land one. They complain that no one "wants to work" but when someone shows up asking to work they slam the door in their face. I've been treated like garbage and i won't forget it.
Elder gen z here. I agree with everything you said. We want to work but we want to be paid for our work. We do not want to be told to come in an hour early to “set up” for our shift and not get paid for it. We do not want to get calls about work once we have clocked out and are home. We want a good work/life balance. We saw what our parents and older siblings had to go through and we don’t want that. Life is short and we want to enjoy it. Yes we will work because we need money but we do not want to sacrifice our mental well-being for money. We sell our labor and because we are valuing that labor we are told we are told we are lazy and entitled.
Entry level IT intern position at NIST was asking for proficiency in 5 different programming languages and a degree along with examples of own personal labs. This is ENTRY LEVEL INTERN
Nobody has proficiency in 5 different languages anyway. That’s ridiculous. Every project you work on will require different stacks and research abilities often replace proficiency.
I think genZ is over being told what to do with their lives. I feel like previous generations were more submissive to social pressures and the opinions of others.
This may correlate with how there's a significant decrease in drinking amongst younger people. I don't care if someone wants to drink - they can do whatever they want - but for me, alcohol of any kind tastes terrible, and it having the effect of worsening your ability to think & make decisions absolutely does not sound like something I want to willingly experience. I haven't personally been pressured into drinking, but I have gotten the occasional "oh, why not?" like I've suddenly grown a second head when I decline an offer. Like, sorry if I made the moment awkward (apparently), but I'm not going to consume something I don't want to just to socially fit-in.
@Dxpress_ Absolutely. I think the young er generations are starting to realize their own autonomy. Older generations have given me herd mentality vibes and when asked about significant life choices they've made, it's because " that's what you do!" like what? That's not a good enough reason to do things.
@@pisceanbeauty2503 True, I forgot about that. Technically vaping, but practically just as bad. Man, I remember when vapes were originally marketed towards "smokers trying to quit", and now they're just the new smoking.
8:51 work from home jobs are great for mothers The US is currently experiencing a decline in birth rates continuing the work from home would be a great way to encourage that because you could work and take care of your kids. Much easier.
THIS! im a single mother with very strict and limited availability beyond my control, so a work from home job would open up many more opportunities for me. The problem is a lot of ones you CAN find is also not legit. Cold calling scammy places, MLMs, ghost listings or falsely stating work from home when it’s in person/hybrid. These job sites need to be held accountable too for allowing these types of listings :(
But the jobs will never encourage this you know? Like to them that’s stealing company time to be doing anything personal while on the clock. I don’t disagree with you, and a lot of people can probably swing this with their jobs, but it’s absolutely discouraged unfortunately
I’ll speak for most gen Z by saying this. If corporations don’t give a damn about you then why should you give a damn about them? That’s basically the entire argument. If companies only see you as a transactional asset then why should you see them any differently? Makes no sense
@@RARochester "WelCOmE To tHE reAl wOrLd! 🤪🤪🤪🤪🤪" Yes we know it's the real world and we're treating it as such. if you're not going to pay me a living wage then I'm going to work at the bare minimum since that's how much you value me at. I'm not allowing myself to be taken advantage of. Welcome to the real world :)
@@coal9205 Please !!! You think the " tail wags the dog " ?; don't work; don't even go into work just stay at home. You'll either be FIRED or LAID OFF; companies don't give a rat's a$$ what you do; if you do just the " bare minimum " you will be fired; it's that simple; that's " the real world "; keep on thinking that you have equity; you don't and your landlord WILL kick your a$$ out if you don't come with the rent and your car WILL be repossessed if you don't make your lease payments; nobody gives a sh!t about your f@cking sob story. The sooner you UNDERSTAND that; the better off you'll be and that's the " real world ".
I’m constantly hearing about how my generation “doesn’t wanna work” and how lazy I am because I’m gen z And everytime I tell them to fuck off because I’m tired of explaining something to someone who already thinks that there right no matter what I say
I can say from experience that if a job treats you well, the productivity goes up exponentially. I had a job that treated us like actual people with lives outside of work. Lots of PTO and generally very accepting of your circumstances. I actually felt bad for leaving but they were still very kind to me as i was doing my final 2 weeks. It isnt that we "dont want to work", its that we also want to be able to enjoy our lives without constantly worrying about work.
That line was coined by James Baldwin a prominent black man during the Black Power Movement I highly recommend looking into his books and work he talks about labor issues, race, and sexuality
I hope so too. Sadly I’ve seen some millennials also hate on Gen Z, including disabled Gen Z who struggle with work, and I hope things change. I have a niece who is Gen alpha and I hope she makes it and makes it good.
Having GenZ in leadership was the best thing to happen for a previous company I worked for. They made their presence known and made beneficial changes. Who ever said this is crazy!
I went above and beyond in my last workplace, I was rewarded with a few cent raise and the expectation to always be like that even when this job tried to kill me and I quit due to my health. I have other friends who are desperate for jobs and often don't get responses due to the dumb reality of fake job outings, places that are like ya we are hiring but are not really even though they are understaffed.
I’m applying to jobs right now because my current role is overworking me with a promise of a better title and pay… it’s been 3 years. Millennial here and I’m over it. I’m joining the Gen Zrs on this one. It’s not “quiet quitting” it’s working my wage and hours and not a minute more 👏🏽
4:31 I don’t think Gen Z is lazy at all, I think we provided them a different set of skill sets and our infrastructure of work didn’t keep up with them. Whether that be due to cost or the refusal of the older generation not wanting to assimilate to the technology that exists, it’s just not benefiting anyone right now. Gen Z has the potential to make big changes, if people give them a real chance.
Millennial here. This is giving me flashbacks to the early 2010s when older generations said the exact same bullshit about us. Also, I love how not wanting to be abused at work is considered "entitled". As annoying I can find Gen Z at times, I'm glad they're calling out corporatist bullshit. Just hope they remember that fervor as their workplace influence grows.
Interesting seeing this response to "i don't want to be overworked like my parents because they seemed to have a shit life and work stress was clearly the reason."
"How much experience do you have?" "None this is my first job" "Okay well we can't hire you, you need at least 3 years of experience" When you need experience to get a job, but you can't Get Experience, WiThOuT a JoB!
This is why my whole resume is a lie because I couldn’t get experience unless I had a job but I couldn’t job unless I had experience This why I don’t believe in job loyalty or being honest on your resume because they really don’t care
The generalizations of a whole generation needs to end. I started working at 16 I’m still at the same job now for two years. I’ve only called out twice, only been late twice, and only posted a shift once. It’s going to be the same thing though when gen z’s kids start working.
That's a lot of us, and mind you we, THE HARD DEDICATED WORKERS WHO ACTUALLY DO LIKE WORKING, are constantly told we're lazy 😂 I guess they think we should be compensated in air and a single penny and be happy about that.
I totally feel the not wanting to hire Gen Z. I applied for a few positions that I thought I would be perfect for, one being a student recruiter for my university, the other being a job in a creative space within a library. And I didn’t get hired for both. I was never really given any feedback but a lot of it was probably I looked too young and inexperienced. My last job, I got replaced cause I was sick a lot but that was out of my control. I literally had an accident that left me out of work for two weeks. I would come into work when I was still sick just so I didn’t get told off but then would catch someone else’s sick and be knocked down for a week. I got COVID. So 3 weeks were out of my control and my job was being compensated for paying me by the government for me not being there. I slowly became redundant and everyone in the leadership was like nah there’s still jobs you can do. It was a factory where most of the team were guys and obviously they could lift more than me. I tried asking to learn how to do some of the assembly work. Nope not allowed. They turned against me and I was like nah, I’m out, I’m not wasting my time doing 40 hours a week in a place that doesn’t want me and won’t let me do anything else. Idk there’s a massive amount of stigma against Gen Z and I’m early Gen Z. I’ve been working for a while now. Heck it’s been since 2018 but anything that I might think I am a good fit for. Nope not you. Too young, too inexperienced.
How many times do I need to drain myself dry feeling like shit each and every time I’ve ever called out, only to learn that they were fine and always are fine when I’m not there, but the shame is REAL. Generational SHAME.
as the gen x parent of mills, gen z and the alpha gen... i am loud and proud about giving all three gens their props. i am a business admin major and can tell you i am soooo happy to see the idea of work/life balance being built into the theory of how to do good business. they can never make me hate y'all 😭
i would rather pass away then work at some place that wont even let me get a day off a whole year in advance just bc its a weekend and "they'll need me". ive never found a job that gave af about me truly, like genuinely i can honestly say that. i work hard as hell in my day to day to care for animals and family and myself and keep my house clean. they think all this disappears when u work, demand all of ur energy like i dont got shit to do. my friend in another country gets by with a 4 day work week and it helps them love their job. sick of the lazy narrative how bout yall stop stressing us tf out
It’s funny because I agree. As a 20 year old I have no loyalty to my workplace despite the good pay, no desire to do “extra” work, and I PLAN on quitting before I reach the 2 year point. My job also doesn’t allow raises so there is literally no reason to stay there when I find another job who will pay more for my experience.
I got walked out of a final interview with the head guy despite glowing reviews from the people who interviewed me up to that point as soon as he saw me. My heart sank when I saw his expression; it was clear he thought young woman = unqualified. I had taken my limited PTO off for that interview, only to be dismissed because of my age. And then I got laid off a month later. On the plus side, the xoomer (border boomer/gen x)?who contributed to my layoff now is severely overworked since I was doing her job and mine, and now it’s going to be the other way around~
Finding a job out college was hard and the amount of times ive been berated by my own family for “not doing enough” annoyed me. The amount of times ive gotten job rejections was weighing me down. The degree I persued was Bachelor of Arts/Graphic Design/Illustration. But 3 months later after graduating I found a “boring” job that uses my design skills and developed printing skills. I have somewhat utilized my design skills on some products that needed to be sent to this major health company.
I’m disabled and wanna work in marine biology. I am hoping the team effort will be a lifesaver. If I don’t take breaks, if I don’t take care of myself, I can’t work, my body will force me into my bed.
Disabled, currently in college. I've chosen my current track based on the fact that I can't stand for long periods of time. It sucks, and I can't even work a fast food or retail job because bosses are opposed to employees having a damn chair
"Lacking loyalty"... THIS IS A SEASONAL JOB, it's all you're offering😂 you won't even guarantee you'll pay me after January, and you want loyalty?!?! I got hired and continued applying for jobs, just hoping I'll hear back from one by February😭 I can't even think of staying bc it's unrealistic... why would any of us want to be there at all?!
In interviews I’ve gotten concerns about my job hopping. My job hopping started due to an unexpected layoff- I would have stayed with the company had that not happened and it led to me finding positions that were part time or didn’t quite fit. It’s nice when interviewers give me a chance to explain, but most of the time they don’t & I’m aware it reads as not having loyalty. I think people who haven’t gone through layoffs don’t realize the continuous impact it has on someone’s life.
As a younger Gen-z working in Corporate at the top of the food chain in my org I do not aspire to work like this forever and fight for promotions. I’m working enough to get to point to invest and not have to rely on my main job. This shit is exhausting and can’t wait until the older crowd gets out the way so we can make some changes tbh
Young millennial here, I get along better with the Gen Zs. We talk about how we are not about working extra when the company doesn’t hire extra people. Recently one of my coworkers left and the other is on maternity leave. We went down from 4 to 2 and my team is also supposed to help a new department. I told my boss, I’ll work as much as I can for the band with that I have but at what point do we say “this is too much” to the VP and she looked at me and said “well I can’t say no”. (She’s a core millennial (late 30s)) I asked “why not? It’s just two of us with double the work from when we were 4? She looked blanked like she was short circuiting. I told her, they need to hire a temp worker or something. I am not going to overwork myself. 💯
Older generations have been saying "nobody wants to work anymore" since the beginning of time. There are newspaper articles with this exact quote dating back to 1894
It’s a repeating cycle
Another thing I hope Gen Z can break the cycle of or at least start to it’s annoying hearing folks who grew up in different generations putting each other down instead of helping. Not everyone is like that of course but there is enough that’s it’s annoying
There are mesopotamian letters about children being youthful and wistful scholars who don't want to work.
@@TheWitchDoctor1984 yes, we must not repeat this cycle onto gen alpha.
And every single time they are correct….
It’s an objective fact that Gen Z puts the Z in Lazy.
They then cry about it and make disingenuous arguments when people call them out on it.
So let me get this straight, they complain about Gen Z not wanting to work, so their solution to that is to not hire Gen Z so they don't work? 💀💀💀
Or to not pay them because somehow that builds work ethic
@@imthatjayYes. It's called a DOWNWARD SPIRAL.
So if you DO get hired against the odds, don't slack off and further ruin the group reputation.
@@Monasaurus_Rex They can't just " not pay you" if you were on the clock and doing your job. You could report them to the state.
@@Monasaurus_Rex "wE'lL pAy YoU iN ExPeRiEnCe"🤪
@@3namechangezalowdevry90day7 have you heard of non-payed internships? Companies have been not paying their workers what their worth for years, decades. They love underpaying people too, Teacher strikes, public transit strikes, it's not new.
on job hopping: literally my boomer father is the one that gave me the advice to leave a job when you need to leave. i told him i was feeling bad about quitting this one job and he was like "don't ever feel bad about quitting. because if they were to let you go, are they gonna feel bad? no."
Sounds like a good man
Lol except i did feel bad about firing people so i left that position 😂
My dad and mother actually told me the same thing
I was always told to never job hop. But job hopping has been the only way I've managed to actually climb the salary ranks.
@@damonhinson4005how would one go about that? just going from job to job every few months in their own respective career fields?
They said Millennials were lazy too. They basically name call the youngest generation that can work for being lazy.
That is just a blantant excuse to hide thier motive it's thier greed and prioritizing thier capital income over thier human resource how you think the milenials have been complaining of being overworked and underpaid is like the system is design to keep the majority poor while the minority in economic power in other words stuck in a rat race this is why many are planning to start a business and other devious and greed being will want to terminate that plan out of greed.
soon it will be gen Alpha who's the most entitled and doesn't want to work :D
Gen alpha is probably going fo be the last generation of United States citizens with how so many of them are already disabled
Was about to say this.
It’s a political and systematic strategy to keep wages low. The reason they are paying low is because they don’t work for the pay.
-this is their thought process not mine.
as a gen z, everytime i get a job i go above and beyond my duties and my boss notices that then adds to my duties and expects more and more over time, and thats why i get burnt out very quickly, never had a boss that didnt do this to me. its confusing because im being praised for being a good worker while also being picked at ab a million different tiny things that i "forgot" (usually something id never been told about or never had to do before and neither did my coworkers) i think a lot of older people assume that because your young you can handle it all.
This is something to keep in mind as a manager thank you.
are you me? 'cause i have this exact issue
working at (DUNKABLE COFFEE CORPORATION), have been for over a year. my mind and body are completely breaking down. i cannot function in any areas of my life anymore. i finally told my manager i was gonna quit, and this is the first time in MONTHS that i've only had to work three days this week. she will berate her workers at random. she gets on me for missing fifty billion tasks that i either had no way of knowing about, or couldn't possibly remember. every time i step into work i fall back into trauma responses because even thinking about the store is stressful.
also: i might be autistic (explains the years of burnout and general ... everything) and they are absolutely not accomodating. even if they claim to understand. but the entire concept of the job is a hellscape for neurodivergency, so in reality i need to quit. doesn't help that the adults in my life don't give a damn about my safety or health when it isn't directly serving them and the cult we're stuck in 🤷
And they always add more and more work but it’s 🦗 🦗🦗 when it’s time for more money 🙄😒
we work so hard and get no recognition. but when we ask for a mental health day, were the devil
One thing you'll have to learn if you work for someone else is if you're an over performer you won't be compared to standard job expectations you'll be compared to the standard you set.
As a millennial, I am PROUD of Gen-Z for saying, “I am here for the paycheck, I am not doing any extra work I am not getting paid for, and I *will* have a work life balance.”
CHANGE THE GAME GEN-Z!
Me at work telling my coworkers I’m paid to be a cashier, not to be a loss prevention officer. I would not get any extra pay or compensation for getting punched in the face by someone who I caught stealing, so why would I put myself at risk of bodily harm? It’s none of my business 🤷♀️
Honestly, as an older millennial, I've adopted that exact outlook.
Millennial here. God speed genz🫡 pls help us change it. Millennials speak out but Gen z has taken more action in regards to this conversation I guess. I personally have never heard or been around anything discussed here with the ‘lazy’ labels and topics etc. either. Millennials only talk about boomers and being mistreated in childhood. I know a lot of ppl a few years younger than me feel the same way and have spoken out on it as well. Keep up the good work 😂❤ love yall
Funny thing is. This type of mindset is normal in European countries so I don’t bother when someone tries to tell me my thinkings wrong.
I do taxes and I'm the youngest person in the room. During tax season the hours are long and people don't take their lunch. I had an older coworker tell me she was proud of me for always taking my lunch. I was astounded hearing that!! I'm taking my lunch!! I don't even want to be here for the other hours😂😂😂
They’re mad that we want to be compensated fairly for our labor and not “pizza parties” or $10 amazon gift cards LMAO
Literally this. Keep it babe, I'll be gone in a month.
My job wasted money to buy water jugs for medical assistants and gave them to us the week after medical assistant week all while people have been quitting in the past three months. Like…we don’t want some water jugs, give us raises or a bonus🫠 I’m quitting in December🤫
@@schokococoa575 understandable lol
Yes your bonus being in the GROSS pay so you never see it and it’s taxed
Whole ass parties out of town 😂
when even a college degree can't guarantee a job who tf is going to be enthusiastic!!! specially when the pay is not even enough to just survive!
YES!!!!
Woke college degrees guarantee no job
not to mention the fact that AI is starting to take over and impact so many industries. why bother getting a degree when the job you’re studying to go into may not even exist anymore by the time you graduate?
@@coolchameleon21 literally my situation rn.....i'm studying for an art degree and i'm already seeing jobs being taken from artists irl its so bad
@@nikozalive same with my graphic design degree :( it doesn’t even feel worth it anymore because AI is already taking jobs in the industry
"Why give my all if the company won't even give their 1%?" Has been my belief the entire time
True. I got excellent work reviews and got a whole $5 A WEEK raise. Now, I only do what they pay me to do. No more going above and beyond or doing extra work that i am not paid for.
The job I’m currently at I heard the older coworkers say “no one wants to work nowadays.” Meanwhile the company cuts everyone’s hours as if we don’t need money to survive, gives the smallest raise ever & pays the bare minimum, no room to grow, never recognizes any of your hard work & how the company benefits from you being in your position, etc. Whenever I hear the phrase “no one wants to work anymore,” I immediately think the job/position is just plain and simply not good/beneficial or worth it to the worker, Espicially in the long run.
Corporations don’t drop you for “nothing”. They literally drop you to increase THEIR bottom line. When you drop them to increase YOUR bottom line it’s a problem? How?! 🤦🏾♀️✨
It’s not a prob, they just hate people and value corporate profit.
They be jealous of our success without them
We should buy less stuff to drop their bottom lines even further.
We call this narcissistic abuse.
Because they own you
Whenever I hear "Gen Z doesn't want to work". I always respond "No, Gen Z doesn't want to be taken advantage of."
And I mean I have coworkers that are boomers, gen x and millennial and they all complain about work and wish to stop working if they could. Like everyone complains. But we all get up and show up at work the next day lmao.
Issue is yall act as if this is unique to yall and use it as an excuse to off load work to everyone around you.
They want us to be dumb as fuck like the other generations and get taken advantage of so therefore “ we are lazy we don’t work and we are grateful” but what it actually is is standing up for yourself
Thank you. I'm in Nigeria and abuse is normalized on a family level, like it's part of life. It got to the point where I couldn't accept help from people because I felt like they would want something I don't have. I also had a time where I was expecting difficulty at every "office" process I involved in, especially things that had to do with school. If I go to an office, I would expect to wait an hour before I spoke to anyone and definitely I'm spending the whole day there. Right now, I don't jump when a superior sneezes anymore, I've decided to choose myself. I mean if I die, work will go on and if I'm so important, it'll slow them down for a hot minute and that's it. There's been times I just stayed home and called in sick because I just wasn't feeling it😅. I made a comment in a group with my highschool class and people were like "good girl gone bad" 😂😂. I was punctual, civil, very nice and obedient. I did have a carefree side though; I chose to go to the library and read James Hardly Chase at 13 rather than be at an economics class 😅, I also defied my dad and sat for an art exam instead of economics (I hate social science and business 😢, I guess I've always known my boundaries). Another reason for us acting like we don't want to work is the fact that we all know it doesn't pay 🤷🏾♀️🤷🏾♀️. Hardwork and education were the keys we were told to find, then they changed the locks 😂😂 people used to say this when I was in the university and now I see with my own eyes 😂😂. I mean Jake Paul doesn't have any of them 🤷🏾♀️
The older generations throw all their work and criticism on me. I only have one year of experience, you all were there decades ago 😂
As a milennnial I'm having flashbacks because so many points we were accused of are said about this gen z now.
this happens literally every generation even dating back hundred of years ago
I so agree! Just a few years ago everyone was saying how Milennials we are so lazy and not loyal, now all is turning to gen Z. I think it is just older generations don't like that we all want to have a better relationship with work.
I remember how folks used to dog out Millennials back in the day. So many insults.
Every generation is accused of being lazier than the generation prior. But that’s part of the point to progress, isn’t it? To make life easier for the next generation?
Yeah i was gonna say we were the never let them catch you sober generation first lmao
This is honestly one of the main reasons I’m afraid to get a job. I’m only 20 years old but the fact that this is a thing *and* I’m super nervous and shy (and have several disorders like autism and ADHD) is why I’m so afraid to work.
The misery I can deal with since I just naturally am constantly miserable but I’m afraid of people
Pls don’t be afraid. That’s what they want, they want you to be afraid so you’ll be easier to be taken advantage of. As a 26 year old adhd having autist myself, who’s also black, I promise you that you can learn the game. Study people and study systems and learn how to navigate them while retaining your soul. It’s possible, I promise you ❤ just please, learn the game NOW
Same especially since i want to go above and beyond in my career that being software engineering then moving up to cybersecurity engineering , robotics engineering and lastly Ai engineering I know it’s probably impossible for me to do so because of adhd and autism that’s why I’m scared because I wasn’t to be able to handle it.
@@mx.chi2exactly I suffered because my dad purposefully kept me from attempting to get a job until I finally went behind his back when I was 21 but because of him holding me back I'm now 25 and feeling like I'm playing catch up compared to others my age who have a car and all my cousins were basically gifted a vehicle on a silver platter the minute they turned 18 and got a drivers license but since that first job I was pushed around and taken advantage to the point where it got too much multiple times and I lost said job multiple times I have slowly learned various lessons over that timeframe....
One key moment at my lastest job that I've had for almost 5 months now was when they kept sending over this really shit worker that they keep hired on and who I literally can't communicate with outside of a translator app and this specific building I am cleaning has VERY STRICT SECURITY POLICIES we have to lock every door behind us when we go into a room to clean purely because of the value of some of the deals and paperwork going through these offices I've seem checks with thousands of dollars on em just laying on desks so its big business I guess? But initially I mistakenly assumed they let this guy know all the particularities of this building they HAVE TO DO otherwise they will lose the right to clean the building and I was extremely wrong and on top of that the guy basically constantly didn't do all of his assigned duties and actively didn't lock doors behind him despite me pulling up my translator app MULTIPLE TIMES TO TELL HIM YOU HAVE TO LOCK THE DOORS BEHIND YOU! Suffice to say they sent this guy enough times within a short timeframe that building security was fucken pissed to find doors unlocked so fucking much (despite coming back constantly to lock em up when I should be doing my own section) that the management put the building on review (meaning judging whether I needed to be fired or not even though it was the floater guy (person who isn't stationed at one single building) who was creating the issues but essentially higher management trued to give me a write up for not micro managing some dipshit who couldn't follow instructions like LOCK THE FUCKING DOOR!
AND for the first time in my life working I SHIT THAT SHIT DOWN REALLY QUICK! Texted my manager tons of messages showing evidence of the guy THEY sent leaving shit unlocked showed videos I took of me being forced to stay way overtime just to clean things the guy just didn't clean.
And for one thing that write up got dropped really quickly and secondly when the review process began another worker who was working that building who clearly didn't want to be there got fired(he basically got the job pawned off by his mom he really didn't care and I get that) but he got fired but when they tried to review my work and abilities (clearly trying to clean house) I had all the supervisors and managers I worked with coming out the cracks going he's a good worker he doesn't create problems and he does his job don't fire him! 😂 I had managers and supervisors telling upper management THEIR BOSSES to not fire me which felt pretty good~~~
BUT THE POINT IS OF ALL THIS!!! The faster you get in the quicker you figure things out and then can start creating contacts and relationships and establishing job security even if you can't afford a car or your own place having a job JUST to start SAVING MONEY IS EXTREMELY VALUABLE because you have options at that point to branch out further invest in what you WANT to do, keep your mood up better by having money to go out and do recreational activities etc etc~
My dad who is Gen X was OVERWORKED in 2020 and he changed to a better job bc of that.. It's not just us being "entitled" it's literally us wanting a better workplace for everyone like you said. I am so glad you proved that point.
I feel bad for the people that think working hard or overworking = more pay. That’s not really the case these days and even overworking isn’t enough to pay the bills sometimes
Yes, I know in some cases in jobs I’ve worked I have or some of my coworkers have overworked and have been underpaid or been refused to pay. That’s what people don’t talk about with Gen Z. They think sometimes people are just lazy, but also people are refusing to pay us.
fr. when i worked fast food, people would get mad at me for only doing the bare minimum and not busting my arse. i’m like why should i? i’m getting paid the same amount that you are even though you act like you’re going to be promoted to CEO for doing too much 😂 i was getting paid minimum wage with no benefits, all while being treated like dirt by managers and being abused by customers all day with absolutely no protections. damn straight i’m only doing the bare minimum
@@coolchameleon21 yes!
“Work your wage”! It speaks to the kind of work environment that the previous generations have been used to and they think it’s actually normal to be treated badly as a human being.
Preach!!!! Coming from a generation that actually will see their SS! While the rest of us won’t be able to collect by the time we need it cause it’ll be all gone🙄
And the guy next to you not doing anything great gets promoted before you
The 'Gen Z has no loyalty' takes gets me HEATED! It's been 4 years since I've graduated. Of those 4 years - 23 of those months I was unemployed. TWENTY-THREE. Almost half of it. Why? Because the companies laid me off. I literalky don't want to hear anything out of their mouths. If you're going to treat it like a temp job, I'll treat it like a temp job. 😒😒😒
YES TO ALL THISS!! I graduated the same amount of years ago and have been employed those same amount of months! It’s ridiculous out here at this point 🙄
4 years here. many companies only need help for 2 months or 3. then you get tossed to the curb
To be fair all gens are being laid off its not that corporation band together and collectively screw gen Z, its that the economy has gone to shit in the past 4 yrs, you can thank the govt for that. Blame boomers and millennials who vote for all these social programs that you will be on the hook for, whats funny is most gen Z will follow suit too screwing themselves over by voting for these "kind" policies.
fr. my brother recently got laid off even though he was one of the company’s best employees. he generated a ton of profit for this company while constantly increasing their savings, and they let him go with absolutely no warning. he was only given a month’s worth of unemployment.
@@gahaha8565yeah so that has absolutely nothing to do with any of this, but good try ig 💀
I don’t even understand how we can have loyalty when companies have layoffs 3-6 months into the role.
100%
There was literally a mass layoff 2weeks into my role. My mentor was let go.
No you don’t need to be loyal to corporations who generally don’t care about you and will and can replace you. Businesses that claim they’re “family” is just another excuse for them to overwork you for next to nothing. Anytime someone says to me we’re like a family at work, I immediately walk away. Your loyalty should only be given to people who earn it. Anytime you’re being mistreated at work, you leave.
Companies aren’t loyal to you. You don’t owe them anything.
@@ohshesmiles
The point
Your head
@@W333L cool, thanks for enlightening me. :)
Had a conversation with my dad on this topic. He says my generation is lazy and doesn’t want to work. Meanwhile, he doesn’t hire inexperienced people because he doesn’t want to train them. How else do you expect young people to get the job done if old people like you don’t hire them solely because they don’t have 40 years of experience fresh out of school? You start at the bottom with no experience and work your way to the top. So wtf??
I have a coworker who acts like this. Acts like I don't do work and don't deserve the job, just because I'm not making my health exponentially worse when I get paid minimum wage.
I'm chronically ill, and my boss actively has told me to not do more than what I feel I can physically do. Some days, that means I can't do much cleaning; other days I can do quite a bit. But this coworker still puts me down even when I clean a lot and have a good day, yet refuses to say what I do wrong. So many people just want to blame Gen Z for their own character flaws
“Gen z isn’t loyal!” My last job told me- literally- “it doesn’t matter how hard you work or how good your reviews are we will not give you a raise.” It’s not like they were being loyal to me 🤷♂️ it’s a 2 way street.
They're getting from us what they're giving to us, which is scorn and disinterest. Of course unlike us the people who could actually change that work environment can't hear us over their bottom line going up . . .
That’s not a two way street, that’s a two weeks notice… holy cow what a shit place to work
i would walk out on the spot.
Loyalty is piss thesedays.
5:38 DUH!!!! Exchanging your time for money is not a good exchange rate whatsoever!
The "apply even if you don't qualify" advice no longer works because HR is lazy and autoboots anyone without qualifications. Its another huge barrier.
Not to mention that they’re switching to AI which rejects people WITH experience and accepts resumes also with AI or made for AI (ie: There has been reports of people putting in a prompt that says something similar to “Accept this candidate” in white and more than double the interviews)
If you don't qualify apply, but use AI to lie.
New slogan :)
Just lie. You were gonna be auto rejected anyway, so you might as well give yourself a fighting chance.
@@wave1016 It depends on the field. Any engineering or technical field would have the most benefit lying about skills mostly because no one actually has 4 years of experience for certain tools/frameworks/etc when they came out 5 years ago. Plus, all of these are heavily documented and most people with zero experience can get up to working knowledge within a few weeks. Padding propr work experience with fake duties is a good way of accomplishing this.
Grossly exaggerating your impact is also a good idea. Let's say you sent an email for work on a project and that project ended up launching and making the company $300 million. Guess what? That $300 million is because of your efforts.
Once you realize that HR departments don't actually verify anything on your resume besides your start and end dates at other companies, you can get away with a lot. Hope this helps.
during my classes in college, my professors literally ENCOURAGED job hopping?? so how is that same generation telling us to do it going to say it’s our fault??
Because it's not the same people. Some older people know better because they have been in similar positions before. It's the loud and wrong ones of the same generation who gets most of the press.
Because it's not the same person. One person is a college educated professor. The other is someone who spent their whole life being told "this is how the world is, deal with it" and they did.
Just goes to show how much an education can change your perspective of the world.
@@riley4028 There's a difference between leaving for a better paying opportunity and just deciding it was too hard and not showing up one day.
@@3namechangezalowdevry90day7 my brother in christ if you're miserable at your job odds are they're gonna sack you eventually anyway. Not only because of the "Make everyone think you like your job!!! :D" shit but because a depressed worker on the verge of crashing out isn't a very productive worker. Stop implying that leaving because of mental or physical health is an unforgivable sin or something.
@aegisScale If you show up on time and work hard, then you're far more valuable than someone with a fake "good attitude" toward a job they barely do.
Most steady jobs are HELLHOLES. If your job was fun. fulfilling and paid well. lots of OTHER people would want it and you'd be easy to replace!
with the loyalty sentiment: we’re also living in a world where there’s MASSIVE disillusionment with institutions. big corporations are under waaay more scrutiny than before, and that trickles down into a mentality of “i’ll work for this company, but i’m not married to it.” (i’m gen z, i think this is a great outcome - don’t always trust institutions, trust people)
The work my wage attitude comes from that too. Working above and beyond became the standard bc people thought it would get them up in the world. We now see thats clearly not the case and working above and beyond just leads people into overworking themselves
Worked at a dominoes, Halloween was coming up and I was told it’s mandatory to work a couple hours, makes sense. People want pizza for their parties and stuff. Turned my 4 hour shift into 12 because my manager gave everyone else the day off. Once I found that out I was a no show and they begged me to come back a week later
As an older Gen Z (Born 1997), the real issue is that workplaces have unrealistic expectations. I have no problem with working hard but the jobs I've had didn't give me a chance.
Define unrealistic expectations?
Or never get promoted so you just burn out. I was always praised as the best retail worker, winning a nespresso maker from one job for being the top district selling (when someone gives my name when checking out), but I was never once promoted or received a raise. I was technically part time but because of my states law I was working 30 hours a week+ without getting benefits, PTO hours, and got 30minutes of sick hours per 40 hours worked (I think it was even more but I don’t want to over exaggerate the number accidentally). I finally left and am back in college. You are worth being happy ❤
Minume pay max effort how's that
I thought Gen Z was 2000 & up ?
@@S0raJrno, the start year is a bit iffy and varies from source to source but the start is usually defined around 1996-1998
With the cost of living going up and jobs refusing to pay their employees more but love giving them more work....yes of course people are jumping ship.
It's a no-brainer. We aren't here to slave.
@@emperorstudyyeah but the previous coward generations have an issue with it for some reason 😂
cost of living is going up as is the cost of business.
@@zizojaezekeom3565 It’s definitely fear and a lack of self-discipline. In this society, if you wait too long to make a move for freedom, you become content and accustomed to the consumer-debt mindset. Then over time they forget the cause. It’s a vicious cycle.
@@kliptretthats just a lie. Its been shown time and time again that many businesses in various sectors are increasing prices multiple times the rate of inflation.
The Plague of 2020 showed us that our systems are all messed up, and that there's better ways of living. I can't remember the source of the poll, but it asked milennials and Gen Z about what we would do if we didnt have to work didn't need money. Most people said they would do something that is some kind of work, but it was something based in their interests or how they would contribute to a happier society. So they deduced its not that we don't wanna work, its that the work in the world today is unfulfilling and no one is making enough to experience joy on a consistent enough basis for it to be worthwhile.
^^^^ this
I’m am from now on only going to reference that time period has _The Plague of 2020_ 😂
Uh, these sort of "interest activities" are not useful to society at all. Say you abolish society's current "messed up system", if you thought for a second that drawing nude art and making creamy latte is work that benefits society, then you, and Gen Z, have no idea how society functions and I pray yall don't have the power in numbers to make such retarded "change".
The jobs we have now are voluntary contracts you agree to with your employer to get paid worth your time, while you deliver a product of sort that benefits the employer, to which the employer uses it for other means and investments. This is applied to miners, office work, cashers, pharamcists, factory workers and etc...
This system led to an abundance of goods and a better quality of life for everyone. I am not going to argue our system is "good", because it's not, it has so much flaw and I can trace most of them to the corrupt government, but this sort of "utopia" that somehow doing retarded "artistic work" will somehow save humanity, is mind boggling.
Even not wanting to work is fine like who wants to exist to work just to survive on food and water that god created for free for example
Yep, if I didn't have to work for a living I would be writing, maybe drawing, and finally get into woodworking. There really isn't point in most jobs nowadays
3:18 as a younger millennial, I too, do not dream of labor. Why would I do that? We work to live, we should not be expected to live to work.
I always come back to this too! Like, regardless of how accurate the statement is “gen z doesn’t want to work” I’m always like, okay but, why should we have to? Why should labor be something we are excited about and want to do for the rest of our lives? Why is it “morally wrong” for me to wish and want a life where I don’t have to do work to survive? Where I could just have fun? Where I could just enjoy life? Why do I HAVE to WANT to do work? (If anyone wants to reply to this with “that’s just how the world is” or anything along those lines, plz don’t. I’m working right now as I type this, I have a job and will probably always need to do it. I don’t want to hear about how I cannot enjoy life the way I would like to. Thank you)
In my last job , if I was 3 minutes late they'd take it off my paycheck ,but then expected me to stay working late for 45mins-1hour without paying me , I said if you want me to work late , pay me. All of a sudden I got the "your generations so lazy" rant, it's tiring .
If you're in the US go talk to the Department of Labor about that, they'll try and get the stolen wages back for ya.
I had this too, I was only late because they didn't have enough parking for all the staff as well.
Heavy reminder as well for young people in the workforce, HR works for the company, not for you. HR is to protect company, not you. Go to HR if you feel you need but also be cautious. I've had HR protect terrible, hateful people while telling me the issue has been solved.
Oh 100%. Disabled? They hate you. Survived SA? Expect to be fired.
Union reps are the actual hr, but even then they aren't really going to be your friend, just making sure whether or not your being exploited. And if your dragging them down as well, often they'll say you aren't holding up your end.
Yes, absolutely! HR is not your friend. They are paid by the employer, which means they work for the employer. Their top priority is to reduce liability for the employer. If you do have to go to HR, make sure you have written documented proof of what happened or why. Try to get their responses in writing. Just as they document everything on you, you have to have your own documentation to protect yourself.
Edit: Also your co-workers and especially supervisors are not your friends. They will stab you in the back if it means it will protect their job. Not saying it's right, but it does happen.
Happened to me,harsh lesson, but I have learned. The job system broken
Former HR manager here and YES I tell people this all the time! We are there to look out for the company’s best interests, not to protect you. If it came down to protecting the company or siding with the employee, it’s the company every time.
Keep pushing back Gen Z! I’m a millennial and have felt like y’all do my whole life. Y’all are being misrepresented intentionally. This economic and societal structure is some foolishness and y’all aren’t putting up with it! I support you wholeheartedly!!!
A millenial that doesnt hate us!??? 😢🥹
Y'all
@@briannawatt4741I'm a gen x who doesn't hate you. Keep pushing back, but be aware that the technology exists to make your jobs disappear. Focus on jobs like trades that will always need skilled employees
Exactly, don't become complacent. This is going to be your world, you get to define what works for you. It SHOULD look different, life moves forward and so it should. Every generation has "lazy" people, it's so unfair to label an entire generation like that
@@briannawatt4741 Most Millennials don't hate you, except for the negative ones who hate everyone. We're facing so many issues that affect both generations equally.
Can we talk about how they don’t train us anymore? So I have to work long hours for bad pay AND I’m not even trained for my job? No thank you
EXACTLY! This is what kills me! Like, come on! You don't even teach people how to do the job! It's the companies that are cheap, *shady* and lazy, not us.
@@skyhiireke5027 I’m convinced it’s so we produce mediocre work so they always have an excuse to lay us off or keep wages low. Companies are cheap and shady indeed
This right here I been working my new job for almost a month and I have yet to be trained the employees that they have supposedly training me have literally been working there for two months and are still learning the job themselves so I don’t understand how they want me to learn a job from someone who doesn’t even know the job
they are having my take online training classes as well where I’m learning absolutely nothing
@@Crazyroller92 it’s so our work stays subpar and they have an excuse to lay us off or deny promotion, or at least that’s what I’m convinced theyre trying to do
Omg I thought this was just because I work for an independent business....glad to see it's all over
I’m 29 and have only ever worked low paying jobs. I had an internship for a much higher paying job, they promised to hire me. 8 months later they let me go. Work is bullshit.
I’m an autistic gen Z.
I’ve been desperately trying to get a job, as Im taking a gap year to save up for college.
I only asked for 2 things.
1: The ability to wearn noise reducing headphones while working, and
2: 1 extra 10 minute break I can take if I get overstimulated.
I’ve explained that if I get those accommodations, I’d be able to work significantly better.
I’m more than qualified for all the jobs I’ve been interviewed for; I had some of the highest grades of my graduating class, I’ve volunteered at the ASPCA every weekend for the past 3 years, etc.
I have basically everything employers are looking for.
I’ve been interviewed for 7 jobs in the past month.
I’ve been denied from 7 jobs in the past month.
The biggest reasons? I’m “asking for too much” (aka basic disability accommodations??) and that I’m “not what they’re looking for”
The jobs I’ve applied for?
Grocery bagger, cashier, barista and A MCDONALDS CHEF.
I got denied for a job for FLIPPING BURGERS.
I’m currently doing food delivery, and it’s horrible. I’m making less than minimum wage for 10x the work.
I have another interview next week, wish me luck🫠
Good luck 😢
How do you get denied a job by McDonald's? That's pure insanity. from what I can see, these people who are hiring think they're so high and mighty that they can just deny deny deny. Completely unreasonable
If you live in a single party consent state, record the person saying that the basic disability accommodations are too much for the company, and report them
@ unfortunately I don’t, nor do I think I’ll meet w/ them again, but I’ll definitely report them!
How were you planning to be a barista with noise-cancelling headphones?
As a gen z worker, older coworkers love to complain about how gen z doesn’t wanna work. But when they do wanna work, they treat them like babies and will criticize you based on your age.
I’m a 30 year old man who works a job that requires me to often be at a new job site every day. You’d not believe how many comments I get about being young. One guy even did the “what’s the magic word” to me last week because I said “could you hand me that paper” like boomers do to kids in preschool and then said he did it because I’m as old as his grandkids. Mostly they’ll just refer to me as the kid or young man though. They at least like try to hide their sexism but are so open about the way they view people in their 20’s as a kid who knows nothing
@@monhi64 I get we're the youngest and most inexperienced adults in our 20's but we're not literal toddlers and we want to be treated like adults.
I'm not in my 20's yet but I hope the time I hit them, things are better. I'm on the younger end of Gen Z and I hope it gets better from here.
I'm 17 btw.
Also, like…
The boomers and GenX people are the LAZIEST, SLOPPIEST people in my workplace. It’s usually the millennial and, yes, GenZ workers picking up for THEIR slack.
@@monhi64if someone said that to me I would actually start throwing hands, I'm not a toddler and I had to deal with enough "your generation is the worst!" Bs for a lifetime, I literally read and it actually made me mad
Bro I’ve had 60 year old dudes go on their 4th break this morning cause I asked to share the same workspace with them. Id get fired for that but he knows he wont.
Companies don't wanna train any new people. That's their issue. They could make the perfect employee with all the skill just by training them but no job hires without any experience. So where do we start?
We don't.
Companies don't want to pay you to learn skills on their dime. Come with skills or don't expect to be paid as much.
@@Rebecca-bq4ez It's a prisoner's dillemma, then, because all the other companies feel the same way. Now they are desperate to hire senior levels but there are no senior levels because they keep people in entry level roles for 10 years and refuse to onboard new people. They've shot themselves in the foot. So much for being logical. Companies are clowns.
I feel like there ought to be consequences for companies that do that. Isn't experience just another measure of age? How is that not discriminatory?
“ Isn't experience just another measure of age?”
No there’s a pretty big difference between a farm kid that drove grain trucks and heavy equipment vs a city kid that barely drives.
We do need to have more conversations about how these jobs are purposely, not hiring Gen Z workers.
Yes, wouldn't this be considered age discrimination?
@@Lulu_Loves_Sheep By definition? Yes. By law? No because we aren't over the age of 40 and ageism can apparently only happen one direction, in the middle of middle age, somehow
@@silvercoronet The double standards smh😔
I graduated college last year and had 15 plus interviews, probably about 500 applications and have received no offers! I feel like saying this to hide the fact they don’t have the money to hire more people. 🤷🏾♀️
@@A-M4what’s ur degree? Did you do an internship?
Millennial reporting in…guys, keep doing what you’re doing. I’m so proud of all of you that have the guts to say “enough is enough”. Millennials had this mindset but didn’t have the luxury (per-say) to “stand on business” because many of us graduated college during the Great Recession. We had to take what we could get and deal with it.
And to be clear, we were also called unemployable and lazy by the Boomers. I have a great hope that once they FINALLY retire that things might have a chance at changing.
my boomer father gets so mad when i tell him im not applying for jobs that don’t have salary/per hour pay posted lol like either tell me if it’s worth applying for or im not wasting my time taking those foolish ass ‘company personality tests’
Help, the skit to this video is sending me lmaooo.
But in reality, I think most of Gen Z (including myself) is tired of just working and not having a “work-life” balance outside of it. We feel like those hours are wasted, and we can never get those back 🙃.
Millennial here, I want off this ride too
exactly. we spend the bulk of our day, 5 (sometimes 6) days a week working. all i can think of while at work is how much of my life is going down the drain, all that time i will never get back. if you work a 9-5, you’re lucky if you get 4 hours to yourself in a day. barely any time to spend with loved ones, for hobbies, for chores, for passion projects, etc. and many of us can’t even afford a house. it’s bleak. i’d be fine with working if work life balance was actually a balance. 5 days of work and 2 days off is not balance
I agree there are so many activities I want to try but can’t and everyday at work I feel my life and my youth slowly and painfully leaving me…..
Working feels like using a dating app and it tires me out very quickly. I spend a few months scrolling through different people and reaching out with no meaningful responses and then when I finally do get a good conversation its just a situationship for like 3-6 months
Yeah no this is definitely a unique experience to Gen z 😮🙃
I made the mistake of being overly loyal to any company that I worked for… they don’t give a shit about you. That’s why we’re only doing what’s asked now.
Same, my loyalty was rewarded with two layoffs and a firing from a place that had trouble keeping people. No fault of mine. The irony.
Same I am always told "Think about the company the company comes first" and I'll be quick to jump In and help out but at a certain point it starts to drain you mentally, physically and emotionally.
Being younger GenZ entering the world looking at my whole generation being slammed before I ever had a chance to be a part of what's being discussed is so depressing. I'm 17 and have been looking for a job for a while now. I have 12 years of Girl Scouts and a leadership and community service club under my belt, and I have a strong drive to work because I'm staring down the barrel of my 18th birthday, soon after which I'll be basically kicked out. Nowhere is hiring, the places that are refuse to hire GenZ, and left and right I'm being told I'm lazy and entitled and useless simply because of the time period I was born in. Wild shit.
Right? Even fast food won’t accept me, also a teen GenZ, I’ve applied to every possible opportunity in my town and…nothing. Literally nothing. I’ve been told “all our positions are full” too many times for the amount of hiring signs I see
It’s really hard for everyone to find a job nowadays. Companies are not trying to hire and want all their employees to have experience. I’ve gone months without a job in the past
Don't worry, the boomers are going to legalize child labour and go straight to hiring all of those hard working 12 year olds.
Annoying asf, how is constantly seeking employment lazy. Boomers don't having f'ing brains and aren't as smart as they think. How arrogant of someone to claim an entire generation doesn't want to work but never had to experience what it's like to live like this
Honestly any guardians kicking you out at 18 need to wake up to the world they are in.
I was born in 1999, and even I'm feeling this "we expect x, y, and z from you, but we're going pay you and support you for half of your worth." vibe, assuming that I'm not auto-rejected from apply for jobs. It's unreal how many expectations are on the workers, and how the companies enjoy just letting things slide instead of actually seeing workers as people. I applied for an entry level job at Walmart and was rejected same day within a couple of hours. I was over qualified, as I've been working in customer service since high-school. Likewise, I don't blame the new generations for not wanting to work, why should they want to when every other generation is too busy letting us know how good they have it while giving us their table scraps.
I applied at the florist post graduation and they "preferred" college graduates but weren't willing to pay them an adequate wage. it was $13/hr.
Oh and having worked with gen z it’s a mixed bag like it is with everyone but on the most part I think they just take job descriptions literally when it comes to hours of work, expectations etc. when they’re given “opportunities” to do more for nothing in the work place they see it for what it is, a waste of time. They aren’t mega focused on working their way up the ladder in their current job because they know that likely won’t happen if they want to move up they consider leaving. They’re right and I support all of that.
As a Gen Z I can second that. I take my job descriptions literally and if they suddenly tack on A LOT of unsaid things once I’m “hired” that’s an immediate turn off (I’ll probably still work but definitely is a bad mark in my books and lowers my “worker morale”).
The only reason most of us take those "opportunities" is to put it on the resume for a better next job.
Clearly not all will work well flr that, but for me, it was useful to leverage resposibilites i had at past places into a better job somewhere else.
Exactly. They aren't going to promote you or give you a raise. Upward mobility is a thing of the past. Why would they promote someone internally and be forced to give them a modest pay increase when they could bring in someone new and trick them into accepting a job managing people who are only making a few pennies' difference than them? This is why they don't want you to discuss your salary. Because then everyone will find out that they're being severely underpaid.
I only started taking my job descriptions more literally after in my first job I was told to wander and keep an eye on things at an art festival, and because it was my first job I had never known that having my phone out meant that I wasn’t doing my job, meanwhile the other workers were camped out at one part of the festival talking for hours. I was sent home and warned I would be fired next time and was run ragged the rest of my time there making 20+ laps at the festival because every time I stopped I was being reprimanded and no one else was.
Then I switched to a different job at the same festival and was required to do menial booking. Until my not boss told me I had to do his job, I looked at myself and then the other people in my position and realized I did 3x more work in the booking and was also given my bosses work and was being paid less than them. I no showed during the off season and never went back.
Now when I work I know how to communicate with a boss and make sure I only do what won’t burn me out. I still do an above and beyond job but I don’t let myself get taken advantage of.
@@zadarasimoleons1019 Very true, and this is sometimes top-down enforced even in positive workplaces. The place I work right now treats us all insanely well (like actual human beings) but the department is under management of another department and doesn't decide their pay or all their policies independently. Every year they fight for raises for all of us and generally are very successful (11% raise two years ago, 30% raise last year. low wage job so this was financially reasonable although I'm sure the percentages will decrease now as the wage increases). However they can't leverage the department that employs our grad students so even though they work here, they're paid there. If we get one more dollar on our pay we'll have some undergraduates making more than the graduate students who manage them...
I’m 29 and everyone I know that doesn’t stay at a job no longer than 4 years are doing extremely well for their careers. I don’t believe in job loyalty
30 here and staying at jobs for longer than 4 years has gotten me a house and a car and expendable income
My dad got laid off from his job of over 15 years in 2008. A lot of Gen z were kids during the recession and I think that influences a lot of the ways we view work. Why put so much into a job that will eventually lay me off and doesn’t even afford me the basic cost of living? What are we even working for? Love your Gen Z content by the way, you do a great job of encapsulating the thoughts and trends of this generation.
Right like I saw the affects of the recession, and then saw my mom get laid off not even a decade later from the BIGGEST industry in my state. And then she went to work for the government. And i saw how many times they shut down. So yeah, I don't have blind faith in companies. I've only had one job I truly loved, which was a small coffee shop with coworkers my age but even that had issues. Now I'm at some bunk office job. I'm not even gonna pretend I'm not here for anything but the money and benefits
So true! I remember that feeling of hopelessness sinking in as a child, too. It was wild being so young and jaded. I’m kind of sad it wasn’t just my experience. That shouldn’t have been the norm
as a gen z who loves to work hard nobody wants to hire me because I don’t have any experience even tho i’m applying to entry level jobs. no shit I have no experience Im 16 trying to get a job for the first time at taco bell why do i need experience? I have applied to 25 seperate places and they either ghost me, say i’m unqualified, interview me and then ghost me, say that I need to be 18 ( keep in mind these job listings literally SAY they are for 16-17 year olds) or they just reject my application. I wouldn’t say my generation don’t want to work, I think it’s a couple different people ruining it for everyone. I am, and a lot of my friends are very hardworking and nobody can seem to find a job. The issue isn’t my resume either, and Ive always said I can work the most hours possible, even holidays.
I’m older Gen Z (1998), and I graduated with my bachelor’s in 2020. I haven’t had trouble getting jobs, but getting jobs that pay well was a constant struggle.
I encourage everyone I know to job hop. Otherwise, you’re going to find yourself sitting at a job for 20 years making maybe 10% more than you made when you started. There’s not as much mobility as there once was because people don’t seem to be retiring.
No loyalty also makes me mad… the amount of people I know (boomer and Genx) that have been laid off right before retirement is insane. Many companies have no loyalty or morals when it comes to their employees and it’s crazyyyy
I feel like half the Gen Z discourse is so silly because it’s not a generationally specific thing…it’s an age thing. 18-25 year olds have always been looked down on and less likely to get hired. I’m a Millennial and when I graduated, there was a “Millennials only care about work life balance and don’t want to put in the work.” But as people get further up the ladder, they’re usually compensated enough where this issues no longer matter. If you’re a Gen Z’er making $40k/year in a major city…of course you’re not dreaming about work or putting your company first. You know you’re disposable. And of course a 40-50 something making six figures in an inflated role is going to be all “y’all don’t work hard enough.”
I can guarantee that in 10-15 years, the same Gen Z will be shitting on Gen Alpha. The old heads shit on the younger ones. The seniors shit on the freshmen and forgot that they were just like them not too long ago…
Before social media, I would agree with you that Gen Z would talk down on Gen alpha. But now that it's all out in the open for the average person to analyze the bigger picture, I don't think this trend will continue. The constant exposure to news about crises and economic instability through social media, has left most of Gen Z in a different mindset compared to previous generations. I'm expecting Gen Z to either be completely nihilistic, or extremely altruistic toward Gen alpha...nothing in between.
I wish I was making 40k in my big city 😮 Idk what I'd even do with all that money lol I'd be set fr
@goosewithagibus I don't know where you live, but $40K in a big city in America would leave most people broke. A huge portion of that salary is taken out for taxes, and then there's rent, food, and bills. Don't even get me started on roommates, which is the only way to reduce rent unless you live with family.
@tvu24 I live in Salt Lake. It's decently expensive here. But I've done fine on 20k for years now. I could definitely do with more, but having double the income sounds insane. I'd probably just save 10-15k a year. I am a minimalist and pretty frugal though. And I refuse to use credit cards, which most Americans use. So maybe it's easier for me 🤷♂️
@@goosewithagibus Do you live in your own or with family?
as a french person who studies sociology, we've be told that americans live to work vs french who work to live. i feel like gen z impersonates the change of mindset from puting your work life as a priority to puting your personal life and mental health as a priority
Honestly at this point Americans are working just to survive. Our affordable food is full of chemicals and preservatives that are illegal in other countries while food that is clean and organic that holds up to say the uk basic standards is triple the price. Add to that outrageous rent prices and healthcare that’s not as affordable as they want you to think and you are going to work just to pay bills, buy groceries and praying you don’t get sick
@@scottrobinson9334 I feel you. THough not an American. I live in Europe. Please, invest in at least some gold and silver jewellry every month. So that after several months, you will have several silver and gold jewellries - just collect them cause you can always rely on them in times of need. And, of course, not to mention, saving money helps, too, however, I know well saving money isnt that realistic with current prices. BUT - please, try to buy the higher quality food and beverages as many times as possible, despite all difficulties. You can start slow. Also, dont forget about some spirituality, as well. Pray a lot to good spiritual entities and ask them for abundance. Relax a lot and develop a stressless mindset, while focusing on investing in silver and gold. Teach others in your country about these things, too. Best wishes.
American work culture is really messed up. We are all forced into this system, but it doesn't mean we like it. I wish I had 5 weeks of PTO like Europeans and the more laid back atmosphere. In american companies, everything is always a fire, they run intentionally short staffed to save costs and then work the employees to the bone until they burn out and break, then the company kicks them to the trash. But many people here are bootlickers and defend the system. They hate their lives so they become workaholics to compensate, and demand the rest of us join them.
I remember watching a video in highschool that was basically "here's why America is shit, and where every other country does it better" 😂 and it focused on France for its work environment. The pay? The vacation time? Maternity leave?? PATERNITY LEAVE??? Y'all are doing it right! 👏
@@chattycatty3336 half the reason I wanna move out of this godforsaken country. I'm not even in the workforce yet (just a student) and all I'm getting from America is the vibe of "WORKWORKWORKWORK oh you're sick? oh you're sad? oh you have a kid on the way? oh your arms are on the verge of breaking from all of the work? FUCK OFF WORKWORKWORKWORKWORK" and the thought of spending the rest of my life like that (because lord knows I'd never retire with how little they pay us) gives me constant stress headaches and procrastination issues.
As a mid range Gen z I’ve quit 4 jobs over the years. 3/4 jobs have begged me to comeback, like I’m sorry no. You literally treated me like garbage, and now you want me back for the same amount of pay because you realized I was a good employee. One of those jobs the regional manager came to me and asked if I would consider just working weekends. I said no, working 5 days a work is already a lot for me (I have a chronic illness that effects my whole body) working 7 days a week for 2 different companies is a hell no from my body.
The "we don't hire gen z" people are the same people who would CRY discrimination if a person 50+ wasn't hired. Why are seniors protected from age discrimination, and we aren't?
I think older generations were abused and they want us to feel abused because they want to be understood. They're in pain. We're all in existential pain. It's the good Ole "We had to suffer, so you gotta suffer too" syndrome.
Schadenfreude
@@EtherealSolana yes. It's Epicaricacy in English.
Younger generations are surgically attached to their phones. They can't even put their phone away while driving.
@@ibexsouther7483you mean the average populous? far too many people are on their phones, regardless of age.
gosh please your last statement hit me so hard. apparently in my state, there is such a high demand for court reporters that we are considered in a state of emergency, so i went to school. every time i try to apply, they want 5 years experience. i cant get 5 years experience if no one will hire me. the ONE job application that didn’t have any required experience required on the listing interviewed me and said they were looking for someone with 3 years experience. cant win.
I’ve started telling people my education is experience in this Field and its incredibly short sighted and rude to dismiss it
I had a coworker yell at me for wearing a skort to a golf charity event and the girl got so hot when I very calmly said “I didn’t like the way you spoke to me, I wish this conversation could have gone differently” babes I am not the one!
LMAO "I'm not the one!", clearly not miss girl...
That’s so wrong of her. I really wish some of this predominant discourse could include how many work practices that are very common amongst older generations are actually very unprofessional, much more so than the generalized “Gen Z behavior.”
That’s so unprofessional of her.
I mean it probably wouldn’t be acceptable in an office setting but you’re at a sports event, the dress code is obviously going to be different. If it was just a miniskirt I could definitely see why that could be a problem but a skort is made so everything is covered up. At that point you’re just nitpicking.
I guess she expected you to get heatstroke "for the company" or something like that.
Older generations wanting us to go through what they went through is just such a foreign concept to me. I'm turning 21 soon, and I'm already hoping and praying for a better future for those who come after me. I don't want them to go through the same things I've gone through so far. Wishing hardships on other people just because you had to deal with them is just so gross, and sounds like an exhausting way to live.
I've known older people in the work place who are lazy or incompetent, I've known younger people who are lazy or incompetent. There is no age limit on stupidity.
im reading so many news articles about boomers complaining genz wanting flexability, hybrid work, work life balance, no overtime and treating everyone as equals as work...like isn't that a good thing? lol
Okay can we talk about how it’s literally ILLEGAL to not hire someone based on age!? It’s in the constitution. Age is a protected group.
Edit: y'all. I'm not young and naive. I know it's difficult to prove age discrimination in a court of law, and even more so for young people. I was just making a point. Please stop being condescending.
Another edit: PLEASE STOP REPLYING TO THIS AND TELLING ME I’M WRONG. I AM NOT WRONG THAT THE CONSTITUTION DOES NOT SPECIFY AGE. THAT’S ALL I WAS SAYING.
It may be illegal, but it's hard to prove that someone discriminated based on age. They'll do their best to make it seem like that wasn't the reason they didn't hire someone, despite it being the reason.
If you’re talking about the Age Discrimination in Employee Act, it only forbids age discrimination of those 40 years or older so it still doesn’t apply 😭 and on top of that, it’s like the other commenter said, as well: how could you prove that’s what you’re experiencing especially if they never state that as their reasoning. I will say that some states have laws that protect younger generations, but those obviously aren’t constitutional or federal.
But it’s a nightmare to prove and the only laws codifying that protection protect elders, not youths.
@1nerd187 unfortunately, and you will understand this as you get older, you can be very qualified, but someone else may have more work experience and life experience that will make it easier for them to jump into the role, and that makes it hard to prove they were discriminating. There are jobs that I have had in the past that I would be much better at now, not because I am more qualified, but because I have experience understanding the workforce, work culture, and how to ask appropriate questiond to get the training I need and how to advocate for myself.
@ I appreciate the attempt to advise, but I am not that young. I have had many jobs. I'm not really sure where you got the idea I wouldn't know that some people have more experience and are more qualified for certain jobs. That's common sense. I've interviewed and held my fair share of jobs. I don't appreciate the condescension.
I feel like back when my parents'grandparents entered the workforce, going above and beyond and putting in that extra effort meant they would be recognized and given a raise or a promotion. For us that's just not true. Since it's an "expected" behavior they won't reward it, especially because all the higher up positions are already filled by boomers/gen x and they aren't willing to give it up. I used to go above and beyond but when I realized that it didn't matter and the people who needed to notice didn't, I stopped.
The work experience thing sucks so bad too. I graduated college during covid, so I had to take a retail job right out of college (even though I literally have an engineering degree) because that's all I can find. Eventually I got a job that was slightly more relevant? but all employers see when I apply for the types of jobs that I LITERALLY went to school for is that I'm 27 with no relevant work experience so they don't want me. it's so frustrating.
I definitely feel you. Those of us millennials who graduated at the height of the Great Recession had a similar impact experience. I’d like to say it gets better, but for a lot of us it never did and we were never able to secure jobs in our fields. Best thing I can recommend is trying to forge your own path somehow. Whether that’s going Freelance or trying the entrepreneur route. I managed to carve out a place in my field as a consultant, though it’s not at all what I imagined my career would be at this point.
Best of luck to you!
I got told at my previous job that I in spite of having a really productive year and exceeding all my goals, I could not get "exceeds expectations" on my performance review (and the 5% raise that comes with it) because I got "exceeds expectations" last year. So best they could give me was "meets expectations" and a 2.5% raise - so not even beating inflation at that point. Like why even try or care if there's no incentive??
I left that job and am on to a different one now that hopefully has better growth potential but I'm incredibly jaded at this point so I'm not holding my breath. I'm a younger millennial (born 95) but I very much align with Gen Z in all matters related to the workplace.
I think you should give extra effort for your own career. When you apply to other jobs you want to have a good track record of work, that makes you competitive.
I had the same experience after graduating, and that was before covid. I couldn't get anything in my field because they all wanted experience. Even the internships I applied to wanted experience, which is why I couldn't land one. They complain that no one "wants to work" but when someone shows up asking to work they slam the door in their face. I've been treated like garbage and i won't forget it.
You dont put in the extra work for a raise at the current job. You use that experince for your resume and get a new job with it
Elder gen z here. I agree with everything you said. We want to work but we want to be paid for our work. We do not want to be told to come in an hour early to “set up” for our shift and not get paid for it. We do not want to get calls about work once we have clocked out and are home. We want a good work/life balance. We saw what our parents and older siblings had to go through and we don’t want that. Life is short and we want to enjoy it. Yes we will work because we need money but we do not want to sacrifice our mental well-being for money. We sell our labor and because we are valuing that labor we are told we are told we are lazy and entitled.
Entry level IT intern position at NIST was asking for proficiency in 5 different programming languages and a degree along with examples of own personal labs. This is ENTRY LEVEL INTERN
Nobody has proficiency in 5 different languages anyway. That’s ridiculous. Every project you work on will require different stacks and research abilities often replace proficiency.
I think genZ is over being told what to do with their lives. I feel like previous generations were more submissive to social pressures and the opinions of others.
This may correlate with how there's a significant decrease in drinking amongst younger people.
I don't care if someone wants to drink - they can do whatever they want - but for me, alcohol of any kind tastes terrible, and it having the effect of worsening your ability to think & make decisions absolutely does not sound like something I want to willingly experience.
I haven't personally been pressured into drinking, but I have gotten the occasional "oh, why not?" like I've suddenly grown a second head when I decline an offer.
Like, sorry if I made the moment awkward (apparently), but I'm not going to consume something I don't want to just to socially fit-in.
@Dxpress_ Absolutely. I think the young er generations are starting to realize their own autonomy. Older generations have given me herd mentality vibes and when asked about significant life choices they've made, it's because " that's what you do!" like what? That's not a good enough reason to do things.
@@Dxpress_ Yes, but they smoke more.
@@pisceanbeauty2503 True, I forgot about that. Technically vaping, but practically just as bad.
Man, I remember when vapes were originally marketed towards "smokers trying to quit", and now they're just the new smoking.
@@Dxpress_ Yeah, I remember that too. It’s wild.
8:51 work from home jobs are great for mothers The US is currently experiencing a decline in birth rates continuing the work from home would be a great way to encourage that because you could work and take care of your kids. Much easier.
THIS! im a single mother with very strict and limited availability beyond my control, so a work from home job would open up many more opportunities for me. The problem is a lot of ones you CAN find is also not legit. Cold calling scammy places, MLMs, ghost listings or falsely stating work from home when it’s in person/hybrid. These job sites need to be held accountable too for allowing these types of listings :(
But the jobs will never encourage this you know? Like to them that’s stealing company time to be doing anything personal while on the clock. I don’t disagree with you, and a lot of people can probably swing this with their jobs, but it’s absolutely discouraged unfortunately
That, and paid maternity/paternity leave. Pay the mother's and they would have the money for children
I’ll speak for most gen Z by saying this. If corporations don’t give a damn about you then why should you give a damn about them? That’s basically the entire argument. If companies only see you as a transactional asset then why should you see them any differently? Makes no sense
It has always been this way for generations; if you recall your parents or grandparents saying " welcome to the real world ".
@@RARochester "WelCOmE To tHE reAl wOrLd! 🤪🤪🤪🤪🤪"
Yes we know it's the real world and we're treating it as such. if you're not going to pay me a living wage then I'm going to work at the bare minimum since that's how much you value me at. I'm not allowing myself to be taken advantage of.
Welcome to the real world :)
@@coal9205 Please !!! You think the " tail wags the dog " ?; don't work; don't even go into work just stay at home. You'll either be FIRED or LAID OFF; companies don't give a rat's a$$ what you do; if you do just the " bare minimum " you will be fired; it's that simple; that's " the real world "; keep on thinking that you have equity; you don't and your landlord WILL kick your a$$ out if you don't come with the rent and your car WILL be repossessed if you don't make your lease payments; nobody gives a sh!t about your f@cking sob story. The sooner you UNDERSTAND that; the better off you'll be and that's the " real world ".
I’m constantly hearing about how my generation “doesn’t wanna work” and how lazy I am because I’m gen z
And everytime I tell them to fuck off because I’m tired of explaining something to someone who already thinks that there right no matter what I say
I can say from experience that if a job treats you well, the productivity goes up exponentially. I had a job that treated us like actual people with lives outside of work. Lots of PTO and generally very accepting of your circumstances. I actually felt bad for leaving but they were still very kind to me as i was doing my final 2 weeks. It isnt that we "dont want to work", its that we also want to be able to enjoy our lives without constantly worrying about work.
my gen x mom increased her salary by over 40k by job hopping LEAVE THAT JOB!
I'm pretty independent, but I see where a lot of people are coming from. They want you all to be John Wick, but won't pay you a Keanu Reeves salary.
As a wise millennial once said ‘I do not dream of labour’. we walked so gen z can run and I’m excited to see how Gen Alpha will shake things up.
Facts
That line was coined by James Baldwin a prominent black man during the Black Power Movement I highly recommend looking into his books and work he talks about labor issues, race, and sexuality
I hope so too. Sadly I’ve seen some millennials also hate on Gen Z, including disabled Gen Z who struggle with work, and I hope things change. I have a niece who is Gen alpha and I hope she makes it and makes it good.
"As a wise millennial once said ‘I do not dream of labour’." you guys didn't coin this shit lmfao
Who said that, who you quoting
Having GenZ in leadership was the best thing to happen for a previous company I worked for. They made their presence known and made beneficial changes. Who ever said this is crazy!
I’m being so serious when I ask like…isn’t this like the definition of age discrimination? 😂☠️
I went above and beyond in my last workplace, I was rewarded with a few cent raise and the expectation to always be like that even when this job tried to kill me and I quit due to my health. I have other friends who are desperate for jobs and often don't get responses due to the dumb reality of fake job outings, places that are like ya we are hiring but are not really even though they are understaffed.
I’m applying to jobs right now because my current role is overworking me with a promise of a better title and pay… it’s been 3 years. Millennial here and I’m over it. I’m joining the Gen Zrs on this one. It’s not “quiet quitting” it’s working my wage and hours and not a minute more 👏🏽
This gen z gal is proud of you. Welcome home ❤
Hell yeah! You don't owe your life to these companies, why should you do more for them when they won't return the favor?
4:31 I don’t think Gen Z is lazy at all, I think we provided them a different set of skill sets and our infrastructure of work didn’t keep up with them. Whether that be due to cost or the refusal of the older generation not wanting to assimilate to the technology that exists, it’s just not benefiting anyone right now. Gen Z has the potential to make big changes, if people give them a real chance.
Millennial here. This is giving me flashbacks to the early 2010s when older generations said the exact same bullshit about us.
Also, I love how not wanting to be abused at work is considered "entitled". As annoying I can find Gen Z at times, I'm glad they're calling out corporatist bullshit. Just hope they remember that fervor as their workplace influence grows.
Interesting seeing this response to "i don't want to be overworked like my parents because they seemed to have a shit life and work stress was clearly the reason."
"How much experience do you have?" "None this is my first job" "Okay well we can't hire you, you need at least 3 years of experience"
When you need experience to get a job, but you can't Get Experience, WiThOuT a JoB!
Hence why everyone lies on resume. Yes I have 30 years experience at age 26
This is why my whole resume is a lie because I couldn’t get experience unless I had a job but I couldn’t job unless I had experience
This why I don’t believe in job loyalty or being honest on your resume because they really don’t care
Internships is what they expect like somehow they expect you to be doing years of unpaid labor it’s insane
@@b3791even most internships expects you to have experience now.
@@Crazyroller92 how does lying on your resume even work? wouldn't the company check or something?
The generalizations of a whole generation needs to end. I started working at 16 I’m still at the same job now for two years. I’ve only called out twice, only been late twice, and only posted a shift once. It’s going to be the same thing though when gen z’s kids start working.
Good 4 U
That's a lot of us, and mind you we, THE HARD DEDICATED WORKERS WHO ACTUALLY DO LIKE WORKING, are constantly told we're lazy 😂 I guess they think we should be compensated in air and a single penny and be happy about that.
Sadly it won't end. Honestly go back and probably every generation complained about the younger ones.
@@ChenilleSagoe-x9h ikr
Thank you for talking about this! They don’t want to adjust to changing times. Our expectations are different
I totally feel the not wanting to hire Gen Z. I applied for a few positions that I thought I would be perfect for, one being a student recruiter for my university, the other being a job in a creative space within a library. And I didn’t get hired for both. I was never really given any feedback but a lot of it was probably I looked too young and inexperienced.
My last job, I got replaced cause I was sick a lot but that was out of my control. I literally had an accident that left me out of work for two weeks. I would come into work when I was still sick just so I didn’t get told off but then would catch someone else’s sick and be knocked down for a week. I got COVID. So 3 weeks were out of my control and my job was being compensated for paying me by the government for me not being there. I slowly became redundant and everyone in the leadership was like nah there’s still jobs you can do. It was a factory where most of the team were guys and obviously they could lift more than me. I tried asking to learn how to do some of the assembly work. Nope not allowed. They turned against me and I was like nah, I’m out, I’m not wasting my time doing 40 hours a week in a place that doesn’t want me and won’t let me do anything else.
Idk there’s a massive amount of stigma against Gen Z and I’m early Gen Z. I’ve been working for a while now. Heck it’s been since 2018 but anything that I might think I am a good fit for. Nope not you. Too young, too inexperienced.
How many times do I need to drain myself dry feeling like shit each and every time I’ve ever called out, only to learn that they were fine and always are fine when I’m not there, but the shame is REAL. Generational SHAME.
0:44 I felt that “please” so hard😭
as the gen x parent of mills, gen z and the alpha gen... i am loud and proud about giving all three gens their props. i am a business admin major and can tell you i am soooo happy to see the idea of work/life balance being built into the theory of how to do good business.
they can never make me hate y'all 😭
i would rather pass away then work at some place that wont even let me get a day off a whole year in advance just bc its a weekend and "they'll need me".
ive never found a job that gave af about me truly, like genuinely i can honestly say that. i work hard as hell in my day to day to care for animals and family and myself and keep my house clean. they think all this disappears when u work, demand all of ur energy like i dont got shit to do. my friend in another country gets by with a 4 day work week and it helps them love their job. sick of the lazy narrative how bout yall stop stressing us tf out
What country lol?
@@calliope3237probs in uk that’s more common.
@@calliope3237 he lives in Sweden
It’s funny because I agree. As a 20 year old I have no loyalty to my workplace despite the good pay, no desire to do “extra” work, and I PLAN on quitting before I reach the 2 year point. My job also doesn’t allow raises so there is literally no reason to stay there when I find another job who will pay more for my experience.
I got walked out of a final interview with the head guy despite glowing reviews from the people who interviewed me up to that point as soon as he saw me. My heart sank when I saw his expression; it was clear he thought young woman = unqualified.
I had taken my limited PTO off for that interview, only to be dismissed because of my age.
And then I got laid off a month later. On the plus side, the xoomer (border boomer/gen x)?who contributed to my layoff now is severely overworked since I was doing her job and mine, and now it’s going to be the other way around~
Finding a job out college was hard and the amount of times ive been berated by my own family for “not doing enough” annoyed me. The amount of times ive gotten job rejections was weighing me down. The degree I persued was Bachelor of Arts/Graphic Design/Illustration.
But 3 months later after graduating I found a “boring” job that uses my design skills and developed printing skills. I have somewhat utilized my design skills on some products that needed to be sent to this major health company.
I’m disabled and wanna work in marine biology. I am hoping the team effort will be a lifesaver. If I don’t take breaks, if I don’t take care of myself, I can’t work, my body will force me into my bed.
Disabled, currently in college. I've chosen my current track based on the fact that I can't stand for long periods of time. It sucks, and I can't even work a fast food or retail job because bosses are opposed to employees having a damn chair
"Lacking loyalty"... THIS IS A SEASONAL JOB, it's all you're offering😂 you won't even guarantee you'll pay me after January, and you want loyalty?!?!
I got hired and continued applying for jobs, just hoping I'll hear back from one by February😭 I can't even think of staying bc it's unrealistic... why would any of us want to be there at all?!
“nO oNe WaNtS tO wOrK aNyMoRe!!!!” No. No one wants to be exploited anymore
In interviews I’ve gotten concerns about my job hopping. My job hopping started due to an unexpected layoff- I would have stayed with the company had that not happened and it led to me finding positions that were part time or didn’t quite fit. It’s nice when interviewers give me a chance to explain, but most of the time they don’t & I’m aware it reads as not having loyalty. I think people who haven’t gone through layoffs don’t realize the continuous impact it has on someone’s life.
As a younger Gen-z working in Corporate at the top of the food chain in my org I do not aspire to work like this forever and fight for promotions. I’m working enough to get to point to invest and not have to rely on my main job. This shit is exhausting and can’t wait until the older crowd gets out the way so we can make some changes tbh
Elder millennial here, went through this bullshit and came to the same mindset as you gen Z folks. Always thought you kids had it together.
Young millennial here, I get along better with the Gen Zs. We talk about how we are not about working extra when the company doesn’t hire extra people. Recently one of my coworkers left and the other is on maternity leave. We went down from 4 to 2 and my team is also supposed to help a new department. I told my boss, I’ll work as much as I can for the band with that I have but at what point do we say “this is too much” to the VP and she looked at me and said “well I can’t say no”. (She’s a core millennial (late 30s)) I asked “why not? It’s just two of us with double the work from when we were 4? She looked blanked like she was short circuiting. I told her, they need to hire a temp worker or something. I am not going to overwork myself. 💯
13:56 I had to pause the video, stand up, and applaud 👏 that ain’t bratty that’s just facts! Standing ovation for you my dude 🫡
5:03 I love working hard. But not for someone else. I’ll work hard for me and those I actually care about