One has to change the dynamics of Zionisem. Dynamics of racism was chabged by Dr. King. Dynamic of clonialism was cganged by Ghandi. Dynamics of apatide regime in S. Africa was changed by N. Mandala.
So articulate. Edward has written some very important brilliant books. It is extremely heartbreaking what we are now seeing in Palestine and the west are complicate. I only became aware of Edward Said relatively recently but I am learning a lot. Thank you for sharing this video.🥀
I wish students and teachers in any discipline listen to this discussion. It is an exemplary way of talking in a sane manner about an extremely sensitive subject which attracts more ignorant ranting rather than informed talk. Said is an important person to be read. So is Rushdie of course. Intellectuals such as these two and Chomsky are vital to prevent the complete displacement of dissenting voices
What a Blessing to have this Talk reminded to us These days or even hours, thank you! - Justice is Not to be found, maybe forgiving but that requires admitting all Injustice, Not to Name sin
How very prescient, my goodness. I can remember when we ate oranges with Jaffa stamped on them. I can't imagine what it must feel like to be made to leave the UK., although I tried Canada and Australia, I missed my green and pleasant land so much, just had to come home. I pray one day the Palestinians will have the same privilege 🙏
"They treat me as some sort of ambassador of terrorism" ... Edward Said on when he is invited for media debates. Since 1986 till 2023, it seems nothing has changed in the media discourse. Every Palestinian voice in the western media is treated exactly the same way ... "But do you condemn Hamas"
almost every interview has him having to condemn some action Israelis never have to condemn themselves and when they do...they blame the victims for teaching them to be violent.
At a certain point, you will have to stop blaming the West for everything and look at yourselves: at your inability to run a democratic and egalitarian society, at your abuse of women, at your religious extremism, at your sick victim consciousness, at your lack of talent to reach peace with your Western and non-Western neighbors, at the medieval mentality and your eternal refusal to criticize yourself and your actions.
The conversations on Zionism, settlers, resistance, Yasser Arafat and being a Palestinian with emphasis on having an understanding of the narrative and history are the ingredients of very significant dialog and greater awareness.
God Bless your soul, & Allah fills the hearts of your children as well as every single other member of your family as well as your friends from all over the World!!! You are still loved & respected, you are unique! I know what you said about your dad, he really didn’t mean it, your dad loved you as much as your loving mum. ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤I always look forward to watching all of your conferences a) Obviously regarding your Palestine, as well as the place where you were born Jerusalem!
They are both great intellects and they disagreed on many issues, but humanity is better for having both of them, and if you wish Rushdie were dead, that shows that you are a religious fanatic who doesn't deserve to have a place in decent civillized conversation.
We all now realize in 2024 that the creation of computers, satellites, cell phones since this interview in 1986 have brought the world events into the hands of people everywhere who have a cell phone!
Don''t be negative, it reminds us a time when people could discuss even if they didn't agree on everything, I was interested to watch This encounter between the great Edouard Said and Salman Rushdie who can have some good ideas, we must not forget he comes from the left and he wrote "Children of midnight" about immigrants in UK
Probably having 20 years of death hanging over his head which has completely changed his life and the public vicious attack finally happening where he went blind ...Iran backing proxies that are ruining peoples lives Not really surprising. It must be great not to have to do anything to end up being assaulted by a Islamic maniac
Enjoy this calm and sensible discussion because you will never see this again. Everyone has devolved into tik tok length sound bites and quick hits. No one even speaks this coherently anymore.
That's right. Who will replace these great intellectuals? Can mind like these even grow under the era of the internet and smartphones? Instead we have the grifters passing for intellectuals and the world will forget that conversations like this are even possible.
It’s pretty funny to see these two men together in a friendly conversation. I don’t think one would see Salman Rushdie in the same kind of company today!
it reminds us a time when people could discuss even if they didn't agree on everything, I was interested to watch this encounter between the great Edouard Said and Salman Rushdie who can have some good ideas, we must not forget he comes from the left and he wrote "Children of midnight" about immigrants in UK
How prophetic that he says that the fate of Arafat is reflected in the fate of the Palestinian intellectuals and the younger generation. "What happens to him is a very important index as to what's going to happen to the rest of us."
The experiences of the Jews and Palestinians is so similar when cause and perpetrator are set aside. They have more in common than not. What if Palestinians are, at least in part, the descendants of the original Israelites? Surely, there is a way to peaceful co-existence for these nations that have both experienced so much loss
Nothing similar at all. The Palestinians have been treated badly, but nothing compares to the Holocaust. I don't understand the fascination with using Holocaust analogies (on either side) because the only real similarity is that Jews are involved.
@@mrmustard1633 I agree. The Jews have suffered more prior to 1948, and the Palestinians have suffered more since. I wish people could stop making comparisons and focus on what's happening now and how to resolve it
wild to see that this is the same Salman Rushdie that recently uttered the horribly orientalist and ignorant claim that an independent Palestinian state would look like a Taliban state
You might have missed the part where Rushdie had his eye gouged out by an Islamist because of a book he wrote decades ago. I imagine that tends to colour one's opinions. No doubt you think he deserved the fatwa which basically proves his point.
@@el-Cu9432 Some people think that people shouldn't be assassinated or have their eyes gouged out because of making statements or sharing ideas. It's a question of completely incompatible ethical standards.
the irony of Netanyahu saying a Palestinian academic wants to kill him so he won't sit with him, to go on decades later to enact a genocide on Palestinians and target, amongst women, children and healtcare personnel, academics too is too much for me to process.
One has to change the dynamics of Zionisem. Dynamics of racism was chabged by Dr. King. Dynamic of clonialism was cganged by Ghandi. Dynamics of apatide regime in S. Africa was changed by N. Mandala.
@@rebeccaday8612 the 👁DF has killed 143 journalists reporting from Gaza since Oct. as of today, May 11, 2024 (source: PressTV) AJ headline Feb. 15, 2024: “Nearly 75% of journalists killed in 2023 died in Israel’s war on Gaza: CPJ “Committee to Protect Journalists says of the 99 journalists killed globally last year, 72 were Palestinians.” Did you know killing journalists is a w.a.r. c.r.i.m.e. and 🇮🇱 is committing them? This’ll probably be deleted…
He does. 😆 I gotta stick up for Kubrick a little - he died a few days after an argument with the producers of Eyes Wide Shut. They wanted to remove 18 min. (roughly) and he refused. Then he died. Despite his age, the timing is very suspicious given the plot and subject matter of the movie.
And the final cut didn’t have the 18 min. he wanted removed so the producers got their way. How nice for them! 🤨 ALWAYS ask, “Who benefits?” from certain events.
Palestinians and Arabs need more articulate voices like this. Not the radical views that are often shown on the Main Street media . I’m an Arab and I am ashamed of what I see everyday.
I think the whole reaction to his The Satanic Verses, including the fatwa from ayatollah Khomeini, severed him from the left. It seems like large parts of the left had a hard time condemning the fatwa and supporting Rushdie (this was before I was born, so I’m not totally sure), so my guess is that the whole affair around The Satanic Verses basically made it impossible for him to remain a part of the left.
Definition of oppressor in the Qur'an: 'wa al kafiroon humu al zalimoon' - Kafir is the Oppressor (by denying belief) 2.254 'Asshirk lazulmu aazeem' - Idolatry is great oppression/injustice 31.13 next level: Jihad is obligatory to fight oppression Fundamentals in a nutshell.
If you don't understand words then don't talk about them. The translation is wrong. Zalim comes from zulm and zulm meaning not keeping things where they ought to be. In other words, not doing justice to things or ideas by keeping them where they don't deserve. Thus, idolatry and saying that there is someone else equal to God is essentially zulm. Menaing either you decrease God to the position of that idol which He doesn't deserve OR you increase the idol to the position of God which the idol and God both don't deserve. AND a person who does so is ZALIM. You have commited a logical fallacy or you have done so by purpose
Neither of them would agree with you or even like you..The only people that like you are your own kind. If only you had been born a century ago ! With a little travelling you would have found yourself in your spiritual homeland - only the people that now you profess to love were treated the way Palestinians are being treated today !
This is ominous, Edward Said doesn’t know anything about Islamic fanaticism, Rushdie doesn’t take it seriously, this is 2 years before Hamas’s Charter and 3 years before the Ayatollah’s fatwa on Rushdie.
The connection of Islamic fundamentalism with serving the western imperial interests is uncanny. Like dedicating Rambo III to the brave Afghani people just to invade them 14 short years later in a war against terror? Or Khaled Mahfouz's of BCCI fame involvement in a SAAR Foundation via his lawyer Cherif Sedky lobbying for Muslims to vote for Dubya in 2000? X files stuff man.
Who was the bleeding liberal the nutty Islamists of Iran did topple in 1979? A US bottom bitch grade A tyrant Shah Reza Pahlavi. So what is the US shtick with dictators and tyrants? As long as they are faithful servants of US who gives a crap about democracy? Have nice time with white Nazi messiah Trump bringing fascism to the US as everything US foreign policy did was exporting fascism.
Read the book and you will see why things turned out the way they did for him. His statements regarding Prophet Muhammad were intently provocative and insulting. He knew very well who he was dealing with and underestimated the consequences.
Archie Bunker used to simulate a suicidal act while his wife, Edith, waxxed on indefinitely. I understand him now. Take me, Elahi, leave me not to the grating sounds of Rushdie.
" the supremacist ideology of Imperialism "...? Despite their condemnation of Western Imperialism they both opted to enjoy the benefits of living in the hated " West "..? They could have chosen the Middle East , Africa , India etc . Did anyone ever ask them why they didn't...??
To answer Said's questions, there is no such thing as a "Palestinian" that excludes Jews. BTW Said is Egyptian, not a Palestinian, even though he'd like to identify as one. (So much for only American ignorance).
"there is NO such thing". There's been ethnic and religious tensions between Jews and Muslims ever since Abraham decided to get gnarly with a slave girl instead of his wife.
You're so right! ENOUGH with people having multiple identities based on multiple influences... EVERYONE must choose just ONE nation or region to identify with...and that's it! Brilliant!
@@pneron2032excellent point, very inline with analysis as James Baldwin regarding the black experience in USA: one thing is to subjugate a people, steal their dignity and oppress them for generations, it a completely different matter to say this never happened or these people never existed. It’s a far bigger crime than the original crime According to him.
Thirty eight years have gone past this conversation, it feels as if Dr. Edward Said is talking about today.
Alas, to return to the days of my youth, when intelligent conversations like this were standard fare.
love Edward Said. My philosophy professor introduced me to him. ❤
Good for you.. I was not that lucky..
One has to change the dynamics of Zionisem. Dynamics of racism was chabged by Dr. King.
Dynamic of clonialism was cganged by Ghandi.
Dynamics of apatide regime in S. Africa was changed by N. Mandala.
21:15 For those listening in 2024 you will get the biggest shock when Said drops this name.
*Yes, he calls the criminal.*
Really love the intellectuality and soothing sensation of Dr saeed's voice
yes, i feel he is the truth
So articulate. Edward has written some very important brilliant books. It is extremely heartbreaking what we are now seeing in Palestine and the west are complicate.
I only became aware of Edward Said relatively recently but I am learning a lot.
Thank you for sharing this video.🥀
Amazing interview, still amazingly relevant today.
Sadly
How is it possible that there isn't one comment on such an interesting conversation?
Perhaps everyone gave up after 15 minutes of waiting for Rushdie to let Professor Said speak.
They hid this video well....
1-not very famous people
2-yt search can be bad. very bad. searching literal, precise terms can produce irrelevant results...
but here's one possible path of conversation:
15:00
boy, oh boy how the tables have turned if in 1986 palestinians were threatened by jews!
I wish students and teachers in any discipline listen to this discussion. It is an exemplary way of talking in a sane manner about an extremely sensitive subject which attracts more ignorant ranting rather than informed talk. Said is an important person to be read. So is Rushdie of course. Intellectuals such as these two and Chomsky are vital to prevent the complete displacement of dissenting voices
A perpetually tragic situation,so well articulated by these fine gentlemen.
What a Blessing to have this Talk reminded to us These days or even hours, thank you! - Justice is Not to be found, maybe forgiving but that requires admitting all Injustice, Not to Name sin
Thanks for sharing this outstanding conversation.
How very prescient, my goodness. I can remember when we ate oranges with Jaffa stamped on them. I can't imagine what it must feel like to be made to leave the UK., although I tried Canada and Australia, I missed my green and pleasant land so much, just had to come home.
I pray one day the Palestinians will have the same privilege 🙏
I've given up eating Jaffa Cakes in protest !!
Mr. Said is such a generous spirit. This was a great talk. Saddening, but great.
Wow, the time has passed! Thanks for this upload.
"They treat me as some sort of ambassador of terrorism" ... Edward Said on when he is invited for media debates. Since 1986 till 2023, it seems nothing has changed in the media discourse. Every Palestinian voice in the western media is treated exactly the same way ... "But do you condemn Hamas"
Why dont you condemn hamas then? Thats why they ask you in the first place. Because you celebrate what hamas does. All the Muslim world
Really loved the phrase also and many of his other eloquent utterances
It's because islam is inherently violent.
almost every interview has him having to condemn some action Israelis never have to condemn themselves and when they do...they blame the victims for teaching them to be violent.
At a certain point, you will have to stop blaming the West for everything and look at yourselves: at your inability to run a democratic and egalitarian society, at your abuse of women, at your religious extremism, at your sick victim consciousness, at your lack of talent to reach peace with your Western and non-Western neighbors, at the medieval mentality and your eternal refusal to criticize yourself and your actions.
Thank you ICA for publishing this on UA-cam.
The conversations on Zionism, settlers, resistance, Yasser Arafat and being a Palestinian with emphasis on having an understanding of the narrative and history are the ingredients of very significant dialog and greater awareness.
Beautiful conversation
This is absolutely brilliant.
So enlightening...!
One of the greatest intellectuals of the middle east and arab world in the last centery.
I like both of these gentlemen. I’ve read them both.
Rushdie is a vile bigot who wrote an islamaphobic book
God Bless your soul, & Allah fills the hearts of your children as well as every single other member of your family as well as your friends from all over the World!!! You are still loved & respected, you are unique!
I know what you said about your dad, he really didn’t mean it, your dad loved you as much as your loving mum. ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤I always look forward to watching all of your conferences a) Obviously regarding your Palestine, as well as the place where you were born Jerusalem!
I dont have much high opiniion of Rushdie but Edward Said appears someone very respectful.
Rushdie is a bug
Just noticed how incredibly handsome Edward Said is.
Thank you.
It's too bad that a wonderful man like Edward W Said has passed away but Salman Rushdie is still here!
It’s too bad that’s what you deduced from the entire interview and comparing who’s alive and who passed away. Cognitive bias at its best
They are both great intellects and they disagreed on many issues, but humanity is better for having both of them, and if you wish Rushdie were dead, that shows that you are a religious fanatic who doesn't deserve to have a place in decent civillized conversation.
@@Mika619-c5q ill help you understand ; too bad Rushdi learnt nothing from Said..(maybe a bit too subtle for you)
unfortunately so
Nothing like picking and choosing your agenda and narrative. You are screaming of hypocrisy.
Edward W Said is admirable
Excellent program
We all now realize in 2024 that the creation of computers, satellites, cell phones since this interview in 1986 have brought the world events into the hands of people everywhere who have a cell phone!
13 minutes and still droning on. ahaaaaa
skip to 15:00
The earth is closing on us
please share this video as much as you can.
*A victory over **-Zionism-** is a victory for humanity.*
Absolutely. And there is a significant difference between antisemitism and anti-Zionism.
@@craigmankin4497 *It's absolutely true, and most of the people know it, except those who try to intentionally conflate those two together.*
"It is impossible to overestimate American ignorance on world affairs."
It is impossible to overestimate palestinian ignorance on world affairs”. There fixed it for you.
@@vondas1480 🤡
It means that the excellence of the speaker left any follower speechless and lettetless🤔
Òh, get on with it, Rushdie! We're here for Professor Said.
Don''t be negative, it reminds us a time when people could discuss even if they didn't agree on everything, I was interested to watch This encounter between the great Edouard Said and Salman Rushdie who can have some good ideas, we must not forget he comes from the left and he wrote "Children of midnight" about immigrants in UK
And he is also the Western-paid to write against Muslims & Islam!
I watched it for Rushdie.
@@fan1985ful you must have been disappointed.
He's one eyed now lol😂
It’s very sad to see what happened to sultan Rushdie opinions since then
Probably having 20 years of death hanging over his head which has completely changed his life and the public vicious attack finally happening where he went blind ...Iran backing proxies that are ruining peoples lives
Not really surprising.
It must be great not to have to do anything to end up being assaulted by a Islamic maniac
edward said and salman rushdie listened
Enjoy this calm and sensible discussion because you will never see this again. Everyone has devolved into tik tok length sound bites and quick hits. No one even speaks this coherently anymore.
That's right. Who will replace these great intellectuals? Can mind like these even grow under the era of the internet and smartphones? Instead we have the grifters passing for intellectuals and the world will forget that conversations like this are even possible.
Pls educate urself befor knocking an entire generation
@@skoetkonung7353 go ahead and give us a link to a conversation of this nature between intellectuals under 40 years old recorded im the past 5 years.
Wow!
21:45 is he talking about natanyaho who is the current prime minister? Wow LOL
The ongoing genocide in Palestine didn't begin in October 7. 2025
almost all of today's happenings relate to everything that was said in this talk 40 years ago
It’s pretty funny to see these two men together in a friendly conversation. I don’t think one would see Salman Rushdie in the same kind of company today!
Edward Said was a Christian.
Both are important each in his own way.
It’s very sad that this 21st century is void of all intellectuals that our generation grew up with. They were and are irreplaceable.
we still have them. They're just persecuted or killed and replaced by puppets like Elon Musk.
it reminds us a time when people could discuss even if they didn't agree on everything, I was interested to watch this encounter between the great Edouard Said and Salman Rushdie who can have some good ideas, we must not forget he comes from the left and he wrote "Children of midnight" about immigrants in UK
It would be interesting to hear/see a comment on this talk by Salman Rushdie now in 2024...
How prophetic that he says that the fate of Arafat is reflected in the fate of the Palestinian intellectuals and the younger generation. "What happens to him is a very important index as to what's going to happen to the rest of us."
Impressive nuance discussion. Respect. USA played biased otherwise should have been resolved
...is Rushddie more free or more happy today? So talkative!!
Gracias Edward Said, excepcional
Beautiful
This might as well have been recorded yesterday.
Thanks for post it. Very interesting. A jew from Brasil.
They have salman rushdie and we have Richard Wagner and Arthur Schoppenhauer.
What we need is another Mandela moment. So much has changed, yet things are maddeningly the same. It’s very sad really.
Thanks ICA
The experiences of the Jews and Palestinians is so similar when cause and perpetrator are set aside. They have more in common than not. What if Palestinians are, at least in part, the descendants of the original Israelites? Surely, there is a way to peaceful co-existence for these nations that have both experienced so much loss
Nothing similar at all. The Palestinians have been treated badly, but nothing compares to the Holocaust. I don't understand the fascination with using Holocaust analogies (on either side) because the only real similarity is that Jews are involved.
@@alexrothwell2053 no one has a monopoly on suffering my friend, they are both injustices
@@mrmustard1633 I agree. The Jews have suffered more prior to 1948, and the Palestinians have suffered more since. I wish people could stop making comparisons and focus on what's happening now and how to resolve it
Except the Jews don’t celebrate the torture, gang rape and murder of innocents and parade their rape victims around the streets. The Palos are beasts.
It’s not a “what if” it is a matter of fact. They do descend from ancient Israelites, Canaanites, Judeans, Phoenicians.
I’m interested in the history of the Middle East.
It deep. Just a heads up, the history starts well before the advent of Islam.
Very refined dialog by two privileged intellectuals. The tragedy, the deaths, the injuries, the sufferings, the losses are not that refined.
Excellent interview! Nothing has changed except for the worse. Don't think ES imagined the extent to which Israel would go. Or maybe he did!
wild to see that this is the same Salman Rushdie that recently uttered the horribly orientalist and ignorant claim that an independent Palestinian state would look like a Taliban state
Really? Wow. Must've been channelling the 'spirit' of his dearly departed friend Christopher Hitchens.
You might have missed the part where Rushdie had his eye gouged out by an Islamist because of a book he wrote decades ago. I imagine that tends to colour one's opinions. No doubt you think he deserved the fatwa which basically proves his point.
I see he still hasn't learned to be careful with the statements he makes.
@@el-Cu9432 Some people think that people shouldn't be assassinated or have their eyes gouged out because of making statements or sharing ideas. It's a question of completely incompatible ethical standards.
the irony of Netanyahu saying a Palestinian academic wants to kill him so he won't sit with him, to go on decades later to enact a genocide on Palestinians and target, amongst women, children and healtcare personnel, academics too is too much for me to process.
One has to change the dynamics of Zionisem. Dynamics of racism was chabged by Dr. King.
Dynamic of clonialism was cganged by Ghandi.
Dynamics of apatide regime in S. Africa was changed by N. Mandala.
Rushdie loves the sound of his own voice
There are people who would commit violence to take his voice away. I say, let him speak!
He is not alone. 🙂
So do you! 😂
@@rebeccaday8612 the 👁DF has killed 143 journalists reporting from Gaza since Oct. as of today, May 11, 2024 (source: PressTV)
AJ headline Feb. 15, 2024:
“Nearly 75% of journalists killed in 2023 died in Israel’s war on Gaza: CPJ
“Committee to Protect Journalists says of the 99 journalists killed globally last year, 72 were Palestinians.”
Did you know killing journalists is a w.a.r. c.r.i.m.e. and 🇮🇱 is committing them? This’ll probably be deleted…
@@rebeccaday8612 my reply to you is 🫥 - look up how to see it.
Wow! The author who looks like Stanley Kubrick is interviewing the "Other".
He does. 😆 I gotta stick up for Kubrick a little - he died a few days after an argument with the producers of Eyes Wide Shut. They wanted to remove 18 min. (roughly) and he refused. Then he died. Despite his age, the timing is very suspicious given the plot and subject matter of the movie.
And the final cut didn’t have the 18 min. he wanted removed so the producers got their way. How nice for them! 🤨 ALWAYS ask, “Who benefits?” from certain events.
what book are they reading from?
8 minutes in and Rushdie is still talking....please when will you let Said talk?
Right Said Ed
*"It’s like we’re watching Auschwitz on TikTok!" < Gabor Mate >* 🍉🇵🇸💯✌
netanyahu flashbang is crazy
17 minutes, finally he let Said have a word. After noticing that Said had been threatened by jews.
Long live Rushdie.
Fuck him. One of the world's greatest racists.
that's what you get from this? Rushdie has sold his soul too and completely changed his opinions now.
What?
What did Edward said?
What did Edward say?
Palestine will be free from the river to the sea long live Aaron Bushnell ❤
Palestinians and Arabs need more articulate voices like this. Not the radical views that are often shown on the Main Street media . I’m an Arab and I am ashamed of what I see everyday.
Arabs voices don’t get to be heard in the media, that’s why you have this opinion.
What radical arab views have you seen on mainstream media?
@@muddi900 He's also a product of the Western media bias.
Edward Said was a radical; he supported armed struggle against Israel. Being articulate does not in any way exclude radicalism.
What happened to Palestinians who protested peacefully? Killed!
I suppose you only support Israel’s right to defend itself by slaughtering babies?
Salman, why don't you say anything about the Palestinian people? where are you ? Are you scared? Or do you not care anymore?
Because he has been owned by the Zionists.
I don’t know, he seems to be a quite centrist liberal nowadays.
I think the whole reaction to his The Satanic Verses, including the fatwa from ayatollah Khomeini, severed him from the left. It seems like large parts of the left had a hard time condemning the fatwa and supporting Rushdie (this was before I was born, so I’m not totally sure), so my guess is that the whole affair around The Satanic Verses basically made it impossible for him to remain a part of the left.
Why would he? He’s speaking with Prof. Said & getting him to talk. Are you trying to goad? Why? 😢Do you realize the age of this interview?
Dont think he ever 'cared'
Well, this interview was before The Satanic Verses!
Definition of oppressor in the Qur'an:
'wa al kafiroon humu al zalimoon' - Kafir is the Oppressor (by denying belief) 2.254
'Asshirk lazulmu aazeem' - Idolatry is great oppression/injustice 31.13
next level: Jihad is obligatory to fight oppression
Fundamentals in a nutshell.
And you are from the US ?
@@PartiallyTI am Hindu and from India.I discovered what quran was preaching only recently
If you don't understand words then don't talk about them.
The translation is wrong. Zalim comes from zulm and zulm meaning not keeping things where they ought to be. In other words, not doing justice to things or ideas by keeping them where they don't deserve.
Thus, idolatry and saying that there is someone else equal to God is essentially zulm. Menaing either you decrease God to the position of that idol which He doesn't deserve OR you increase the idol to the position of God which the idol and God both don't deserve. AND a person who does so is ZALIM.
You have commited a logical fallacy or you have done so by purpose
Mistranslation, you clearly don't know arabic, and thus should not speak on this topic before educating yourself
Neither of them would agree with you or even like you..The only people that like you are your own kind. If only you had been born a century ago ! With a little travelling you would have found yourself in your spiritual homeland - only the people that now you profess to love were treated the way Palestinians are being treated today !
Wait, Pushdie was a thing already befo the satanic panic furcookle?
Yes, his first success was Midnight Children.
Yes he was.
This is ominous, Edward Said doesn’t know anything about Islamic fanaticism, Rushdie doesn’t take it seriously, this is 2 years before Hamas’s Charter and 3 years before the Ayatollah’s fatwa on Rushdie.
The connection of Islamic fundamentalism with serving the western imperial interests is
uncanny. Like dedicating Rambo III to the brave Afghani people just to invade them 14 short years later in a war against terror?
Or Khaled Mahfouz's of BCCI fame involvement in a SAAR Foundation via his lawyer Cherif Sedky lobbying for Muslims to vote for Dubya in 2000?
X files stuff man.
Why is Salman Rushdie talking for so long? He’s such a dullard
Full of himself.
And look what the nutty Islamists of Iran did to Rushdie.
The guy who stabbed him is from new jersy
@@lovescent46 😆🤣
because rushdie sold his soul for money and despite knowing the truth chose to change his opinions and spread propaganda.
Who was the bleeding liberal the nutty Islamists of Iran did topple in 1979? A US bottom bitch grade A tyrant Shah Reza Pahlavi. So what is the US shtick with dictators and tyrants? As long as they are faithful servants of US who gives a crap about democracy? Have nice time with white Nazi messiah Trump bringing fascism to the US as everything US foreign policy did was exporting fascism.
Rushdie brought it on himself.
Three years later SR would get fatwed by the same people 😂
Read the book and you will see why things turned out the way they did for him. His statements regarding Prophet Muhammad were intently provocative and insulting. He knew very well who he was dealing with and underestimated the consequences.
@el-Cu9432 Wow, it seems to me you are justifying terrorism.
Oh, so it's Edward Said's show, according to Salman, but Salman will be the one who talks the most. Cool. Thanks for the barf bag necessity head's up.
Effin just let Edward speak!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Oh Em Gee, I am screaming at the voice of this idiot. How in love are you with yourself?
Archie Bunker used to simulate a suicidal act while his wife, Edith, waxxed on indefinitely. I understand him now. Take me, Elahi, leave me not to the grating sounds of Rushdie.
!!!!????JAI NA RIEN COMPRIS 🕎☦️☪️MOHAMED MAHDI IMAM DE JURSALEM C'EST LA FIN DU MONDE 🌏🏴🐎🕋👤12:06🕔🕘🕟🧭
01:09:00 us support for is
37.14 and yet not one woman in attendance spoke...
Bilgelik ve zeka bazen ters orantılıdır...
21:42 f in bibi man
and Rushdie eventually became a zionist
" the supremacist ideology of Imperialism "...? Despite their condemnation of
Western Imperialism they both opted to enjoy the benefits of living in the
hated " West "..? They could have chosen the Middle East , Africa , India etc .
Did anyone ever ask them why they didn't...??
I Love Edward Said and I Hate Salman Rushdi (Better named Salman Dhaal not Rushdi)
My name is Edward and I said know such thing
Nobody asked scvmbag
Can't abide the pompous Rushdie.....
To answer Said's questions, there is no such thing as a "Palestinian" that excludes Jews. BTW Said is Egyptian, not a Palestinian, even though he'd like to identify as one. (So much for only American ignorance).
You know what they say about needing to be able to acknowledge the problem before anything can be done about.
"there is NO such thing".
There's been ethnic and religious tensions between Jews and Muslims ever since Abraham decided to get gnarly with a slave girl instead of his wife.
You're so right! ENOUGH with people having multiple identities based on multiple influences... EVERYONE must choose just ONE nation or region to identify with...and that's it!
Brilliant!
I need to go to the optometrist because my eyes rolled so far back into my skull
BTW
There don't exist any Palestinians just Arabs . 😔
That's ridiculous - it's the equivalent of saying there are no Spanish, French, Germans, English etc ... there's just Caucasians!
Why can't you people just say "we're strong so we can steal whatever land we want". Why pretend that the people you dispise "dont exist"?
@@pneron2032excellent point, very inline with analysis as James Baldwin regarding the black experience in USA: one thing is to subjugate a people, steal their dignity and oppress them for generations, it a completely different matter to say this never happened or these people never existed. It’s a far bigger crime than the original crime
According to him.
???
The Palestinians like the Egyptians are not Arabs to begin with.. they are just Arabs by culture not by ethnicity
Both sick in mind
😂