The silence about Ezra in the Dead Sea Scrolls: where do we go from here?
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- Опубліковано 18 кві 2020
- Public lecture in association with the Ezra's Legacy and the Dead Sea Scrolls Conference - www.birmingham.ac.uk/ezraslegacy
Leading scholars discuss what ancient sources tell us about Ezra.
Panel chair
Professor Charlotte Hempel, University of Birmingham
Speakers
Professor Lawrence H. Schiffman, New York University- What do the Rabbis say about Ezra?
Professor Hugh Williamson, University of Oxford- Was Ezra the father of Judaism?
Professor Hindy Najman , University of Oxford- Ezra the Prophet in 4 Ezra
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The first speaker from NY University was very concise and to the point, good approach.
And you wouldn't fall asleep during that lecture.
Thank you for the availability of this lecture. I wonder if the meaning of the names we discussed she’d any light on the historicity of the individual, esp concerning the topic of Ezra. Thanks! 💕🐝🇺🇸
"To get at the spirit that moves in it's timeless relevance."
This was an absolute delight, thank you for recording this.
My understanding is that a covenant means people are held to a higher standard.
This doesn't explain everything that happens to people, but it can help us understand why there is not always an immediate consequence for those who are high profile examples of God's promises to humankind.
@28:33 - 29:15 That is a very profound question... to which I say is evidence of God. By all accounts, the text of the Bible shouldn't have survived history without divine intervention.
Clearly, the Holy Scriptures are Divine. The best way to know that is true is to experience the power of those Divine Words. If you live by them, and breath them and think them, and meditate them as David said, "day and and night," and accept them unreservedly as God's Word by faith, you will experience the power of it and hear God speak through it to your heart. A person should experience it by living by it and then they will have the witness in them, and know beyond a shadow of a doubt that the Divine Library is indeed the Oracles of the Almighty.
@@louisaccardi6808 I'm confused. The only way to learn that something is divine is to totally immerse yourself in it with the idea that it is divine? Isn't that just self-deception? People say the exact same thing about other scriptures that you don't consider to have holy origin.
I was hoping this would speak more to 2nd Ezra, found in the dead sea scrolls... but no, this is sadly not the case...
That's due to compelling truth being contained in them. Truths that directly shine the light on the apostasy of the religious leaders, my friend 🥺. Religion is preferred to God's Word in some circles.
@@karinecarde1254 2Esdras has a ton of prophecy about Yeshuah and end times
13 minutes in… Well we know why Ezra isn’t mentioned in the Dead Sea Scrolls.
I feel that each speaker drifted further away from the question
The tendency of all men to focus on their understanding of Torah and the book their fathers have written “about it,” rather than a humble examination of the actual record that comprises TaNaKh.
The result of this is criminal. Through the obfuscation of a endless minutia of details, it steals most of the applicability of the protocols of Heaven that our Creator gave Israel for the benefit of “all the families of the Earth.”
Truly, no one can give anything to others that they do not possess.
If we are to benefit from the understanding of other men, rather than Scripture alone, the Essenes are far better examples…
Ezra seems bizarrely a controversial character. A scholar of vast information. Reviver of the forgotten Torah. His self appointment to a prophetic mission. Reported as shapeshifting into a Malachi years later. He also forms the prelude to the infamous Sanhedrin of Jesus's time. These 'great assembly' sages he helped unite, do seem to be eradicating his work and name. Thankyou for throwing some light on this personality. Unfortunately he still remains shrouded in speculation and mystery.
From their viewpoints it seems a blur, but there are more saner approaches. Their methods are not the only ones to consider.
Great Talk... creaky floorboards, fix them UofB
What about the Dead Sea Scrolls and the extensive work of the Essenes?
You would be interested in Dr. Rachel Elior's lecture at the University of Chicago on UA-cam, entitled "Who Wrote the Dead Sea Scrolls and Why Were They Forgotten? Her1 hr, 23 min lecture is fascinating!
@@suekeith yes, very!!
4 Ezra is dated post destruction of the Second Temple era, not the first ,and seems like a copycat book. This is why this conference gets confusing , because it points to the canonical book of the Bible, Ezra, dated about 440 B.C. and then you hear double talk intermixing "4 Ezra" that is dated after 70 A.D. around the same time as the Book of Revelation was made, 100 A.D. or so, and so it becomes a bait and switch argument, you can see that both Revelation and this other " 4 Ezra" attempts to explain where Judaism and Christianity parted. That assertion is false. The Jewish Zealots failed in their last attempt around 135 A.D. and then Judaism was invented in the 12th Century A.D. about a thousand years later. There is simply incongruity about the comparison to Ezra of the Bible.
What happened in those thousand years after 135 A.D. ?
As far as I am aware, there is the small matter of the exile Jews in Babylon, that became Persia, then later Iran. These guys were kicked out en-mass when the Ayatollah regime took over in 1978, about 80 000 of them. They had been there since 586 BC, and were protected by the pogroms of the Romans which successfully crushed Judaism in the west. As the Roman pogrom finished around the 2 century AD, this allowed the Jews to recolonize Jerusalem, then the west. So its really not true that Judaism was invented in the 12 century AD. If that was the case, then who were the Jews that were displaced by the Arabs during the documented Islamic invasion of the 7th century?
Hebrews 7:2
I hope by now someone has fixed that irritating squeaking floor. it is so bad i quit watching. maybe you can filter that out and repost this video because it was quite interesting until that bothersome repetition. and what the HECK is that background music, what a poor recording especially for someone like me that hears everything because of tinitus, very sensitive to sound.
Who is Ezra? The academics will figure it out I am sure.
Source from Quran.
Quran 9:30 The Jews say, "Ezra is the son of Allah "; and the Christians say, "The Messiah is the son of Allah ." That is their statement from their mouths; they imitate the saying of those who disbelieved [before them]. May Allah destroy them; how are they deluded?
It will be interesting to see what the dead sea scroll said??