Blaire needs to realize that the people she considered her political friends would force her into an asylum if they were ever in control of the government.
So glad that she anticipated just how accepting these conservatives would be given that shes the token tran! maybe her rhetoric wasn't harmful to herself and her community after all :)
@@ARCtheCartoonMaster I dont see what both sides have to do with it since she's talking to the side she identifies with, and they are clearly happy to have her.
i don't understand blaire. she has pushed away and alienated the community that might have actually accepted her, to- what? pander to people who don't treat her like a human?
Its so pitiful she must do it for money i can’t imagine what else would incentivize her to do this. This whole panel thingy felt like when a group of kids at school make fun of the loner kid and everyone else turns their head and laughs quietly-her job is to be bullied and seen as lesser than for her own valid identity. I can’t help but feel sorry its just so pathetic she panders as hard as she does
Because if its not from bigoted conservatives she doesnt feel validated I want to feel sorry for her but she knows conservatives wont accept her its literally in their name
Blaire and Lauren are both compensating for their insecurities. Lauren keeps saying “traditional” marriage is the only acceptable partnership, despite being an unmarried woman & saying all her past relationships with men have been toxic and caused her to abuse drugs. Blaire has said for years that being “passable” and following traditional standards will allow trans people to be accepted, while she is literally being bullied by the party she advocates for. It’s truly sad.
This is a really, really good point. Blaire shuts down for a good portion of this panel, but Lauren also visibly stops in her tracks when Karlyn pushes the "I have a husband and you don't" button. Like, very clearly, neither of them are happy people.
@@ramywiles none of them are happy indeed, and they let out those anger, insecurities and sadness by bullying others, like what blaire did with trans people who don't exactly look like her, and like what lauren did with basically every minority group ever.
Blaire never said that about being passable. She only talks about putting any effort into transition, but she said many times that she doesn’t think being passable is a must.
It’s what happens when you boot lick. Same thing happened to the capital insurrectionist, it was “back the blue” until YOU were the target of the police. But Blair deserved none of this, I’m sorry she had to deal with this
LGBT people should be wary of allying with conservatives. But just because you're LGBT doesn't mean that you should defacto ally with the left either. As a bisexual, it bothers me that leftists feel entitled to our vote. Democrats and the Liberal Party in Canada are not liberals. Liberals believe in individual liberty and civil liberties in general. Things that Democrats and Big-L Liberals have stomped all over during lockdowns and even before then. All I really want at this point is for the government to leave me alone. You can never trust the government to do anything in your interest. Power corrupts people. If you are poor, Democrats and Liberals want to keep you poor and dependent on them. They don't actually care about your material well-being. That doesn't mean the conservatives do either. The point is that government doesn't care about you. And most of society doesn't care about you either. I'm not one to say "pull yourself up by the bootstraps." But that's pretty much the only thing that people can really attempt to do to solve their problems because government has proven themselves to be unreliable at attending to peoples' needs over and over again.
@@marxistdoll2597 The "liberal" parties aren't even liberal. They're something else entirely. They're like Nanny Statists. How can Democrats and big-L Canadian Liberals call themselves liberal when they don't even respect individual civil liberties? I'm not going as far as saying that taxation is theft but I can understand where libertarians are coming from when the vast majority of our taxes go towards bureaucracy and over-paid government employees (especially the higher-ups in government). And the Liberal government turns a blind eye to their wealthy bourgeois friends hiding income and assets abroad while auditing small business owners, hospitality workers and other plebs trying to escape the rat race.
I start to feel bad for her, despite all the horrible things she has done. I don't know if there are underlying reasons for what she does or if it's really just a grift. If it's a grift it's so obviously not worth it.
Absolutely she would, and it reminds me a lot of her debate against Contra from years ago. Even as a Blaire fan, at the time, how transphobic she was being to contra was mad uncomfortable. So, while seeing her having to deal with the same shit she pushes is also very uncomf, I have no sympathy for her.
@@justaguy4081 It is a grift, the question is whether it's JUST a grift. Ain't no honest person out there photoshopping a political compass result for a minor adjustment.
She can't defend herself because she would get clipped and then have her own arguements used against her. She's on the back foot because her own side is treating her how she treats people.
she made a few stupid cringe compilation type videos in like 2015 and apologized to the people she made fun of years ago. how is that comparable to how she's being treated during this debate? i guess i'm biased because i like her videos but i just really don't get what makes people think that blaire is an evil or hateful person. edit: but what i actually meant to say is i completely agree with you that blaire handled the situation as best as anyone could.
@@blondinevloggt she's actively lied or completely misrepresented things in her videos. The main one's I remember her doing it with was Bambi Kardashian and the Trans Bodybuilder whose name I don't remember. Not to mention that the type of misinformation that she spreads is exactly what breeds this type of hatred Even still, I don't think Blair deserves to be treated like this, no one does, this is completely unacceptable
Doesn't change the fact that either way she's consistent while Karlyn isn't and people like her are total hypocrites. If the standards were held she'd be sent to jail (if she wasn't already) and Karlyn's would be deported. I don't think that really conflicts with her beliefs
@@hochmeisterr My great grandfather helped wipe your “reality” off the face of the planet. I would be honored to carry on the tradition... in Minecraft...
She knows these extra conservative republicans exist. You're point-scoring and lazy. Blaire is a moderating trans influence on Republicans. While obviously not perfect, I'm happy there is a strong trans voice to speak to that audience and slowly gain acceptance. I'd argue she is a positive influence in an intolerant part of that community. More trans-positive Republicans is a good thing. Progress is slow. The blonde chick was universally panned by the video's conservative audience. That's good news
@@mypartyisprivate8693 great reply. I find it weird that people try to tell Blaire that she is trying to insert herself into a place where people want her dead but it really isn’t the case. She agrees with a good amount of ways to run the country with the right than with the left. So why should her being trans be the reason why she can’t be a part of the republican side? Her being able to talk to them and to build some types of bridges is not a bad thing !!!
@@cupcakkerares Except she doesn’t. She lied about her political test results. I won’t tell Blaire which party to go to, that’s her decision. I will balk at her basically allowing her own supposed “allies” to thoroughly dehumanise her though. There’s only so many bridges you can build with people who don’t view you as a human being. Sooner or later they will cannibalise you. Though I suppose if some right leaning folks start to sympathise with trans individuals then that’s good. But I feel like society will eventually do that anyway. Blatant homophobia just doesn’t work anymore for the right trying to swing people, for instance.
it's interesting how this "pro-life" person seems to be so pro-torture and psychological abuse. i mean, she literally said conversion therapy should be re-legalized in this discussion.
She's just an idiot fallen way too deep into the nazi propaganda. There's nothing you can do to prove these people wrong. They're just too entangled within their own delusion. No choice but to watch them drive themselves insane.
In her world she doesnt see it as torture she sees it as helping people. But shes so cruel and mean that it's hard to say she ain't grifiting. I assume shes not.
Umm conversion therapy is totally fine for those who fully consent to it, no one is forced you can leave the therapy whenever you want lmao. Nothing wrong with people making their own choices if they want lollll
@Lia's Place that is because even the most extreme right-wing understands that LGBTQ+ rights are not about individual virtues or to define who is a "good" or a "bad" "degenerate" (and boy they scared), the only one who doesn't understand this is Blaire.
eyup, and it does work. Here's a reply to a comment on a superstraight video that made me laugh. _You didnt see this coming? When you push stuff in people's faces, people can push back. You guys could afford some common decency when it comes to the straight community, like being in touch with reality like Blaire White._ Shes the token transgirl Wonder if it worth it.
Absolutely pathetic miserable life. Imagine selling yourself out like that. Girl has no integrity, self worth or dignity. But then again it takes someone who really is messed up mentally to side with such obvious fascists like blondie here.
The part where Doyle said "The private bedroom argument isn't real because there is no private life" needs to be clipped and shipped all over the internet. Jesus Christ, never ever let these depshits pretend to be the party of "individual liberty" again. Never let them put on the mask again.
They're the party of freedom and individual liberty yet they love telling people the proper way to express their gender identity, who they can or can't be attracted to, how many kids they must have and so on. They love policing every single aspect of each others lives but then will whine about the "authoritarian left" lmao it's absolutely ridiculous.
@@eurekamreum5458 I mean it's not really, if you understand their perspective, they probably do believe in personal liberty, for people like themselves, exclusively, there is no contradiction here if you read the subtext, which is that people not like them are not human and therefor able to poses individual liberty.
They don't value individual liberty and they don't want small government. They want a taylor-made government that outlaws whatever they don't like and forces people to live according to how they think everyone should live. That the right wants small govt is the most embarrassing joke ever.
@@HeronSight what do you mean by his history? He's in entertainment business and run a freaking beauty pageant, I don't think you could be successful in those if you're a homophobic. Not to mention he's "ex" democrat
holy. shit. Carlin saying "I'm sorry I have a husband and you don't." to a tradwife larper is probably one of the funniest things I've heard in my entire life
1:23:00 LOL was not expecting to burst out laughing during this but she actually made me. That girl was being a c*nt the entire time and someone finally put her in her place.
They might have told her before the call by the hosts that she had - she very clearly has a virulent hatred for Blaire in her heart. Whats sad is that if she *had* misgendred her, Blaire would probably wouldnt even have defended herself
@@XCeazyX oh for sure, that's why I was shocked she used the right pronouns to Blair. I thought for sure she would call Blair "it" or "he" I'm not giving her credit...cause fuck her, but it just made me do a double take.
@@wowee5334 she's only conservative so she would seem different and get more views. she literally faked things to fit more to her narratives and for the topic to be more shocking so she gets more views, like what she did to that trans athlete janae marie and many others.
don't forget "traditional" yet(i have done a cursory search via google, and can't find her age?) she is presumably in her 30s, un-married and childless.
@@donyates7300 Isn't this most conservatives and other bigoted people who talk like this? They all like to go on about 'degenerates' while not living what they're preaching either.
Can't really fake having a soul very well when you are a soul murder I suppose. The comment about there being no such thing as a private realm was just so precious as well. Not only to reveal what utter fascism the two 'traditional conservatives are but just how full shit it utter is. Just simply ask the two how they feel about the government invading their churches and homes....bet they would run might quick back to the private realm than to argue for 'Their rights.
It’s interesting to watch John Doyle’s face as Lauren goes straight to calling Blaire White a degenerate who shouldn’t be platformed. Like you can tell he’s thinking, “hey, I think that too, but we’re supposed to like... dog whistle about that stuff”
Never forget, Vaush is anarchist. Basically everything is collectivist especially goose stepping conservatives who want everyone to Either conform and accept divine retribution
I know for a fact that the “host” has no respect for Blair, he literally sat there while another guest called her a pedo, the entire time, and let her blatantly insult her whenever she was brought up, then got on Blair’s case about saying “stolen” instead of “borrowed”. I don’t like Blair at all, but I hate the absolute disrespect and hatred even more.
Being able to still empathize with Blair being blatantly disrespected because she's trans and remaining consistent in your views/morals regarding lgbtq+ issues is honestly so admirable and refreshing to see. This ability is something I tend to only see in left leaning circles, majority of my family is conservative and I see them throw their values out the window if it means "owning" the other side. I see this attitude in a lot of conservative communities too.
I hate to defend the guy in this instance... but he said that because of a persecution complex (youtube would take the vid down), rather than an "attack" against Blair. Everything else you said was spot on.
I have hope for her, cuz I have no hope for the right, i think she has it in her to change. I mean she used to be good friends with Shoeonehead, who I don’t love but appreciate her coming around a lil bit
She won't realize it. In fact she made a big show on her social media of going to a club with her friends and later called herself a t slur. And I know people love telling me that it's just "reclaiming" the slur but Blaire isn't using it to reclaim it. She literally thinks she deserves to be called slurs, she literally doesn't think she's a woman, she sees herself as a t slur. I know it's confusing since she loves talking passing and transmedicalism and how there are only two genders while simultaneously denying being a man or a woman but that's what she believes. Gosh I feel so bad for her, she clearly hates herself
@Lia's Place I don't hate her as well even though she's doing a lot of harm. But my heart also breaks for her. Gosh this girl hates herself so much I'm literally starting to worry she'll try to hurt herself.
I feel like at this point, Blaire is playing a character, and I wish she would quit. On her second channel, where she does more personal type content, I actually find her valley girl personality endearing. She could have a better career just being herself and not throwing other trans women under the bus. I almost (ALMOST) feel bad for her because she clearly feels trapped by the character she's created. She's talked openly about feeling depressed and lost in her UA-cam career.
Unless she’s a total psychopath - I doubt that - there’s no way she can take all this without it doing her damage. Maybe I’m projecting but she looks and sounds like a broken woman here and I can’t help but feel deeply sorry for her. She’s still so young ffs. I know she does a lot of harm and there’s no excuse for that. Still though.
Yep, like Dave Rubin, she found a lane within conservative circles early on, made a ton of money, but since then that token shtick has worn off and she's starting to lose subs so she's caught between a rock and a hard place.
I have so many mixed feelings about Blair. She's done so much harm but I still think that she doesn't deserve to be treated like rubbish. It makes me sad honestly. I wish she would see that she's a prop and be more honest and challenge her world view and advocate against her previously held harmful stances. Being trans is so rough and shes making it harder but part of me will always sympathize with her because I know she probably struggled a lot even if she has done some messed up stuff.
@I like fat chicks. didn't blaire white admit to having an eating disorder? and she fatshames people and she's trans and looks down on other trans people? she needs therapy
Fuck, I hate Blair as a person, but this is genuinely painful to watch. I still don't want her to go through this, but she's the only one that can change that.
No one should be attacked for their gender identity. She absolutely deserves criticism for breeding this kind of hate but no one deserves to be treated that way.
@@alisonfool eh, I don't know if she deserves it or not (actually, I think she does). But I certainly don't feel bad for her, she earned it every step of the way
I've said this before but minorities siding with social conservatives is like little kids thinking the teenagers actually like them and aren't just messing with them
@@lysergidedaydream5970 there's actually a larger chance they thought you were super cool than there is a chance of conservatives caring about minorities
@@macmcskullface1004 I definitely think that a big part to it but a lot of them come from homes that openly shame them for who they are and they seem to think taking it out on the group's they're in will make their conservative family want them again
Blaire's videos and entire career is built around bashing the trans community. She deserves whatever roasting the conservatives can dish out. She is an enemy to the TG community. No aid and no comfort for the enemy.
@@jerm-gv9rv you can hook a Tesla battery up to a potato but it won't generate a coherent and thoughtful worldview. This isn't on the hamster, it's on the big guy in the clouds who drew up the blueprints for the potato and hooked it up wrong in John's head.
as the masterpiece ratatouille would say “this is me. i think it’s apparent that i need to rethink my life a little bit. what’s my problem? first of all...i’m a conservative grifter that aligns myself with people who see me as sub-human for being transgender”
Because as being LGBTQ+ becomes accepted they'll have to decide whether they openly hate them or just do so behind closed doors. Plus Blaire isn't cis so they that one crazy woman had to attack her the whole time smh. I almost feel bad for her. If she wasn't present I'm feel like they wouldn't keep looping back to LGBT people so much.
Because Republicans are no longer on the populist side of any issue, so the only thing they have to fall back on is identity politics and fear tactics. And it's working, for now.
That's both the past and the future of their party. That's who they are. Being conservative means they won't change due to the fact they don't want to. That's why we are still dealing with the Confederacy here.
the debate is just lauren bullying blaire and blaire trying so hard o be accepted and be palatable, like a kid trying to get their abusive mother to love them
Right? Also everyone is created in God's image. Pulled that one with my mom yesterday when she kept being a transphobe when I was with her in the car. But then she agreed but then kept being one a little longer. Then I brought up this video to her cuz I saw it friday morning and she then said Christians or conservatives are not all like lauren or John and I busted out laughing in my head because like 3 min before she was saying the same crap they were spewing. Love my mom but not her ideology.
@@drock9009 shame about your mum's transphobia, but she is luckily right on one thing most Christians aren't like her and as shown by the polls Vaush brought up, a majority are for gay rights and hopefully trans.
Omg when Doyle was like “umm so Jesus was talking about being vaguely nice to each other” my first thought was, what about “do unto others as you would have done yourself?” I’m not even a Christian and I know that’s supposed to be the rule followed above all else. Smh
@@NixDolores I didn't know that she had a deadname though, and by 'trans' I assumed she was born female and wanted to transition into a guy, and this thread threw me the other direction. I agree, I'm just saying 'Wow I didn't know this I thought it was the other way around, she's just settling into the idea she wants to change.'.
Blaire definitely hates herself. I was conservative & trans when i was younger, i hated other trans people because i hated myself. I know blaire cried after this
don't, if you were in the same room as that white blonde witch, and telling you the same things she told Blaire, she would laugh at you together with the other 3.
@@CRSB00 I feel you, and I can understand why. It hurts to see one of your own hurting themselves and the people in their community. We're all human. To see such self-loathing and hate without at least trying to see them.. To me it's like telling a suicidal person to pull the trigger. She's obviously swimming in a sea of self-hate and that sh- is hard to break. There has to be some way to show her a way towards love, a way towards discovery, she's drowning in a sea of conservatism for crying out loud! Of course it seems impossible but there is importance in maintaining a healthy amount of empathy. When we dehumanize people to the bare exoskeleton of a hateful, transphobic, and homophobic person we are obviously going to hate them. Hate the the things they say, do, stand for, but hating them as a person crosses into a dangerous territory of potentially being able to excuse violence towards them.
Shit as a cis/het white guy it hurt my heart to see a trans woman treated like that by fascism barbie, but I agree that she encourages people like that with her own actions and outspoken ideology. Hell she couldn't even stand up for herself at all when she was being attacked like that because her ideology wouldn't let her. It shows the failure of her ideology and the hate it inevitably leads to.
I saw this video friday on someone elses channel who was reacting to this and I said Boom there it is he said it he openly said it. Just needed confirmation! We knew it but needed that confirmation.
It's almost as if, as time moves on, and as people and societies change, conservative ideals become outdated and are no longer fit for purpose in a modern world. Ultimately meaning that conservatives need to be progressive and change their ideals to no get left behind.
YES! She didn't defend LGBTQ people; instead, she bolsters her tokenism by throwing the community under the bus. They refused to take her token though and spit in her face while refusing her.
blonde girl: attacks trans people calling them IT, telling blaire to grow out facial hair. blonde girl after being rosted: w-well I was in toxic relationships a-a-and I'm g-g-ggeting their :( god their so fucking weak when they get punched back.
Kaiser But isn't this Blaire getting punched back? After years of saying being cruel to people is ok and the way to go? I'm fine with it. So why does it seem like we're on the side of the people that have been spreading hate and racism for years now over the other people who are more honest about their bigotry? Because those people could fit in somewhat left/liberal spaces? The one's that are supposed to be worse than Blaire and Karlyn on race didn't even say or do anything explicitly racist. Really what we should be talking about is how Karlyn is being 'intolerant' because she can't accept people she disagrees with and wants to censor them. She's an enormous hypocrite
Seeing that clip with Blaire's compass test made me so sad. She clearly does not align with the views of the audience she panders to, but she still seeks acceptance from them.
blonde actually thinks just being in the US and not being a citizen or permanent resident makes you an "illegal". She doesn't know about all the tourists I guess
My favorite visas: Alien of extraordinary talent(basically musicians and actors and stuff like that. Get to stay for a year and gets renewed) The rich guy visa(set up a LLC and pay 250k and you get a visa)
I would feel bad for Blaire if she hadn’t built her brand around being the “good trans” while throwing non-binary and non-passing trans people under the bus.
well if she pays attention and dissociating, she might started crying. after all she'd done to be acceptable by the altright, she still got told to grow a mustache. i understand why she acts like that throughout this whole "debate"
Damn, I'm not necessarily surprised by her faking her political compass test results, but I guess I'm shocked at how shameless she is. I hope more people pick up on that.
Idk if her faking it is a good thing or bad? Cause its like if her true beliefs are lib left (fairly okay imo) then maybe theres hope for her idk her whole thing is really pathetic and just pitiful to me
I know this was months ago, but.. People like Doyle are terrifying. People see them as reasonable because they’re able to remain “polite” and “well-spoken.” He’s just as nuts as Lauren, but passes his beliefs off as reasonable and well thought-out. That’s how dangerous, fascist ideas spread like wildfire. When it’s mistaken for being “acceptable” because they say it with a smile and a clean appearance. Even Blair called him reasonable though he argued for the same things as Lauren.
I was just about to write this! I know blondie is nuts, but Doyle says just as bad shìt, but with a "nerdy" vibe, so it comes off not as bad. His comments on blaming Jared for everything he hates about Trump makes my skin crawl. I've been through some terrifying antisemitism in my life & it's people like him that make me still scared. When my husband goes out, he's noticeably Jewish, (he wears his yarmulke always) I'm always worried in the back of my mind that he'll be attacked for it, because idiots like Doyle are spreading their hate more & more.
@@j.c.jeggis1818 That's how I found out about it. After watching Big Joel's video, I instantly searched for a Vaush video, curious to see his takes on the debate.
I can't believe I'm saying this, but Dr. Karlyn is achieving her goal of seeming like a common sense centrist. Unfortunately, it's because she's opposite a mask-off Christian fascist.
@;; m&m 's I'm Christian Agnostic most days. People like her definitely push would-be Christians or even people interested in Christianity away. All the venom she spits out is antithetical to Jesus's life whether you believe in He existed or not.
@@sentientvegan3070 I mean, yeah, the Bible COULD be interpreted as a centrist or center left text... But the meme of Jesus being a based anarchist is actually pretty easy to defend on textual grounds. What's wrong with giving that reading of the table-flipping radical who preaches against the evils of greed, and whose mythological deeds include giving bread to the common people? I'm speaking as an atheist who's read chunks of Bible for research purposes. But basically, this is generally a good thing, because it means the less outright fascist elements of Christian communities can probably be breadpilled way more easily if we start arguing substantively in favor of pretty much any left leaning interpretation of religious scripture. Do you have any idea how many people would become leftists if we started quoting Scripture next to every point instead of Marx or Kropotkin?
@;; m&m 's Damn right. Honestly, maybe you should start trying to legit breadpill devout Christians in your community if you haven't already. Say "Oh, you know, welfare programs are basically like the time Jesus multiplied the bread and fish... And you want to be more Christ-like, right?"
@;; m&m 's What the heck is vuvuzela supposed to mean in this context? I mean, yeah, it beats the hell out of trying to sell atheism AND leftism to religious people. I'm a complete atheist - I can't hold a single religious belief, I've tried - but I genuinely don't care about aesthetic purity or group cohesion at all, only about results. So, to me, it's as simple as - if it keeps people out of the far right, good. If it alienates people and drives them toward the far right, bad. Incidentally, where are you even from? In the US, evangelical Christianity is like that because the churches are literally run by professional con artists who follow the gospel of Barnum. Here in the Philippines it's because the Catholic Church wants a theocracy by any means.
Doyle hates equality. Thing is my life is far from perfect im a straight cis afro latino and while I dont typically think im better then anyone regardless of race. However I know I am better then every single far right white conservative nut like doyle who believe the universe needs to revolve around them because 100 years ago thats what society was like as if every white dude had power other then their skin back then.
He believes the best time to be alive was during the 50s. The time where if you weren't a straight, white, cis dude you were suffering constant social and political discrimination. It honestly tells you how much he cares about these groups who don't conform to the aforementioned categories.
@@sowietdoge6259 It's not even that, he only cares for the aesthetics of the 50s, not the actual reality of the decade. Plenty of white cishet women were increasingly getting tertiary sector jobs. Life also sucked for housewives and their husbands so there's that too.
I really don't like to use the "self-hating trans" description for Blaire because I don't like to try and diagnose psychological issues, but more and more it seems like the case. She attacks any trans person who does anything wrong, and here she can't even stick up for herself. The girl has issues
@Lia's Place no I understand it's the world we lived in, I'm a transwoman and I used to be transphobic....thought not as bad as that blond woman more like how liberals are transphobic
@@Pink_pr1ncess I mean it was gods plan for his son to die for humanities sins, right? So crucifying him (or shooting him in the neck in a modern setting) would be the right thing to do, technically, would it not? The Roman Empire is somewhat important in traditional catholic belief I think, in Dantes Inferno Julius Caesar is in Limbo while the traitors Brutus and Cassius are, with Judas, in the depths of hell, getting chewed up by Lucifer - this would be because the line of Roman emperors is seen as divinely inspired by the catholic church, as Jesus was allegedly born under the reign of Augustus.
@@yeager14 we will gladly take her when she realizes how disgusting the conservatives right wingers are and learns that she is at fault for putting many trans including herself at so much risk. If she apologizes and learns we will gladly accept her. But even if she ain't a lefty right now i still don't want her to get harassed..
@@wayln2591 Yeah, this shit is hard to watch. Every time I see a right leaning trans person, I cringe because I know damn well that said person is getting harassed by other right wingers for it.
I actually feel bad for Blaire, hopefully this was a wake-up call for her that the people she caps so hard for literally would take away her rights if they could.
I don't feel shit for Blaire. Like Vaush said, she knows full well what these people believe and she will gladly support them no matter how many people they hurt.
Let me say this... hypothetically... woke disappears... wait for it... "I didn't change, the party changed" is going to go back to the Democrat party and actual conservatives will have their party fully back. Blaire will be Democrat... only if woke disappears or they turn her woke.
I don't feel sorry for her. She's been doing this long enough to know exact how her chosen peer group treats her. She literally signs up for this treatment every day because she either likes the money, hates herself, or both. If she wasn't pushing ideas, policies, and politicians that harm people for profit, I would pity her. She could have stopped at any time and still can and chooses not to.
@@dontuserachelslurs doesn't mean it feels good to watch someone get treated that way. My empathy doesn't end because a person may not have any. Doesnt mean she didn't put herself in the line of fire for sure
@Gil Hannity yeah I just dont base my compassion on the person in question. I still feel bad. And I dont waste anything by doing so. My empathy isn't a reservoir that can be drained. Now granted I also know that this is what happens when you dig yourself a grave. Im not gonna stop her from burying herself but I also can still feel bad watching a human being treated that way. Just like I wouldn't be cool with Candace Owen's being called "a black" in front of people.
@Gil Hannity I agree with everything. For me I look at it the way I did Richard Spencer. I didn't want him to get punched in the face. I dont like looking at it. It shouldn't happen. But I also wouldn't remove him from harms way. It ought not happen. But im also going to...honestly...let it happen. Someone digs that grave for themselves they can see if they can avoid it. But to me it's how I feel with all the pick mes.
the worse thing is she still tries to be palatable and pandering towards lauren, like agreeing with some of lauren's points, etc. it's like a child who's trying to please their abusive mother.
She didn't need "emotions" to justify her right to live. The Nazi woman was using emotions too and making false claims that could have been easily debunked with facts, facts I'm sure Blair knows of. But Blaire chose to let that woman and man denigrate her. I feel sorry for her. She clearly hates her life.
@@Whackadoo1 even if she had used facts, she would still looked like an SJW to the conservative audience. the woman is a NAZI, but if blaire called her that she would be saying she doesn't belong there. blaire's whole deal is to normalize LGBT people in conservative conversations, she does this by lying that she is right-wing. you have to admit that she has done some good, like made conservative parents understand their kids ( go to her comment sections). she is obviously not making these parents into activists but she is still trying to normalize lgbt people (at least certain lgbt people).
@@unlucky1349 but her accomplishments dont outweigh her detriments to society though. She is encouraging people to vote for a party that does not want them with rights or dignity at best or to exist at all, at worst. Either way she's leading herself towards the oppression and destruction of her people. She cant even defend her against blatant disrespect? I'm not trans but I cant imagine how that would be good representation for either side. It's like Candan Owen for me. Black authoritarians make no sense to me.
@@Whackadoo1 you are right she doesn't make sense. she may be inviting liberals to vote for the republican party but at the same time, just by simply existing in the republican party she is making it more liberal or at least inclusive. she IS changing what it means to be republican. she might not fully eliminate the bias and prejudices of her audience but she was able to challenge conservatives like Ben Shapiro into admitting that using preferred pronouns is actually appropriate. the problem is that she misrepresents trans people so that her audience sees her as the "one of the good ones". she doesn't fully educate her audience. she only provides what is digestible to them. her whole thing is "I am not an SJW", "identity politics bad", "i have common sense".
@@unlucky1349 a lot of liberals vote Republican. Many Republicans are fiscally liberal and socially conservative. She is not helping because the right will always lead towards authoritarianism and fascism, ie. Fascist Barbie and Specs McGoo in this video. Right wing ideology is built on keeping things the same at best and not moving forward at all at worst. Being a good Black Republican doesn't help when your are a greedy capitalist who hangs around white capitalists, who support inequality which serves capitalism. See what I'm saying? Her being a good trans won't matter much because her ideology is shared by people who eventually want to control and destroy and subjugate, with minorities being the first up always. History tells us this.
She's liked a kicked puppy in how she comes crawling back to the far-righters that insult her and demean her - except that on top of that she spends all her energies also insulting and demeaning trans people herself
What bothers me is how she's willing to go sooooo beyond the lowest point to keep that 1 Birkin they're willing to throw her way while misgendering her.
She won’t lose money. Her base isn’t Laur-Whoren. Her base is more centrist & not this far right imo. But she leads her base down this path if she keeps this up. Blaire Is a definite dummy, and sell out. Clip 1:28:03 and send it to her dumb ass.
I have defended vaush on the twitter so many times but I really can't take his side anymore. His attack on wrist watches is the last straw I am official anti-vaush now.
i was so offended, I love my wrist watch! I have an unhealthy emotional bond to it, it makes me feel safe and like I'm in control of my day and I'll never trust my phone like I trust my wrist watch. my baby. :(
She really hates herself... Also, you go blonde woman, throw every bigoted trope at your opponent in the hopes that they’ll get too confused about where to start...
@Lia's Place on one had I understand her, I understand why she wants to side with these people in hope that they will accept her and I truly feel sorry for her, but in the process she’s throwing everyone else under the bus and there’s simply no excuse for that... they will never accept her, they’re just using her...
Why is Lauren even allowed to be there?? She promotes traditional, religious, hierarchal conservatism... yet... She's a woman who ran for office... a woman who sought to have authority over men... Why doesn't Doyle call this out? Why is she trying to influence anything?? That's not my politics; that's HER politics!
That's what bothers me about conservative women like this. They want to reap the benefits of feminism for power but speak against it. If the blonde lady truly believed her ideology, she would stay in the kitchen.
John Doyle is the exact type of staunch conservative online persona who likes being tied down and pegged in private and needlessly hates himself for it.
Lauren to Blaire: “The best thing you can do for us is grow out moustache and tell people not to live like you?” Blaire in a moment of self-reflection: “Are we the baddies?”
Amazing to see someone genuinely affected by "I'm sorry I have a husband and you don't." Like I'm so used to that being such a nothing comment but it really touched a nerve with her lol
When you put your entire worth as a man/woman based on the sole Merit of you being able to fill some toxic gender role, then an insult like that is really going to get to you. It's the same reasons why inceIs get so mad at it
@@TheSlipperyNUwUdle Yeah, that'd be like saying "Lol I have a dog and you have cats." ".... And? At least cats can purr and cure depression for a bit. Dogs just dribble on you. So do some cats but that's a minority at least."
@@simonlee4504 same I appreciate peoples Empathy but this is the natural conclusion of her own transphobic rhetoric (one example is Blair literally has made dozens of videos about Jessica Yaniv the “transgender predator”), guarantee you the blonde is a nazi
@@someonerandom8552 I’m the same way, Blaire has no respect whatsoever for trans people nor does she advocate for them. I wouldn’t make the claim she’s a transphobic but at the same time she demeans trans people constantly. But on the other hand no one deserves to be disrespected and demeaned as she did. But then again she shouldn’t take that woman serious just as no one else should.
I actually had to pause the beginning of this video .... Jesus Christ. I never thought I would feel this sorry for Blaire. She tries to come off confident, but when that woman told her to grow a mustache you can just hear it in her voice that her comment cut deep into what little self esteem she has. I know that she's done considerable harm to the trans community, and has legitimized a lot of transphobia by capitulating to right wing talking points, but I still can not help but feel bad for her. I can't imagine how it must feel to have so little self esteem that you'd delegitimize your own community to gain social acceptance from people who ultimately view you as a defective person. I like to think maybe one day she will find some self esteem and stop being a reactionary. She could be such a great advocate for trans people. Sigh
that's kind of the Blaire story though, trying to paint herself as confident and better than other trans people while also not even being appreciated by the right. Remember that conversation she had with Candace Owens back in the day too. The only way she has of having some self esteem is to feel superior to other trans people because she herself believes she's not valid.
She's a product of her social environment. She talked in a video about how no one in her family (even her gay uncle) didn't accept her as a woman. I think it triggered something in her what makes her seek acceptance from those who will never give it to her.
@@rubyluisa1756 She didn't defend transgender people at all in this debate, has a very narrow view of acceptable transness (firing ad-hominem at transgender people she doesn't like and don't pass), and has willfully lied multiple times about other lgbtq people to pander to the right (for instance that bodybuilder transwoman, dunno what her name is).
You can't believe in "Just" transexuality,the freedom of transexuals comes with the inherent ascribing of personal personal freedom to everyone and that just can be achieved in a socio-liberal Society and its that these people are inherent against Her rethoric and believes Just point tô onde conclusion
@@zant2146 It is true that on Blaire's political compass test, they apparently lied about the results and that they were actually in the Lib Left quadrant. But still, it seems like Blaire is just reacting against the far left when it comes to trans issues. They may agree with the left more on some issues, but at least on trans issues, they believe that the left has gone too far. So they identify with the right since that's the only other option in America. Maybe Blaire is just a centrist and doesn't know where to go, only that they don't like how the left handles trans issues.
Keep crying, in-group preference/bias is a well established concept in the social sciences and all groups have a healthy ingroup preference/bias, except 1, White leftists who have grown accustomed to an outgroup bias/preference. Whites show the least racial and ethnic bias out of all groups, and that needs to change. White people are beggining to play identity politics again.
after trying so hard to be acceptable by the republican she got told to grow a mustache instead. if i were her i'd cry myself before even say a word to defend myself. blaire looks like she was about to cry
@@blepblep7245 I don’t think she’s ever denied that though, her father’s side of the family completely disowned her :/ People shit on her so much but I really don’t think she’s that bad. People accuse her of lying but i legit think she’s just come across bad sources and not done her research properly. She’s sold out a bit recently but she seems like a genuine and sweet human being.
@@aero3318 she doesnt seem bad. idk what's actually happening in her head, but the way i see it she seems like she just wants to be accepted, and just go and do everything she thinks would get her there without thinking abt the cost (like for example calling other trans ppl cringe and laugh at them). but imo she needs to realise that some group of people are never going to accept her, and that's not her or any other trans ppl's fault, it's just that some people are THAT judgemental and insensitive.
@@blepblep7245 yeah I agree with you there. While I also find some trans people cringe I wouldn’t milk them for views and likes when they’re likely still figuring themselves out.
The sad part is, that Borysenko being the most sane person on this panel, isn't that high a bar to get over. Because no matter how "sane" she appears here, _she will probably still vote along the same lines as the Nazi wannabe duo(Doyle, Witzke) here in the end_ .
I really despise Blaire, but everytime she got verbally abused I felt bad for her, I kinda wanted to be there and protect her. It's sad to watch, I know how much transphobia hurts and she's probably hiding a lot of pain there.
I am assuming you are trans because of your pfp. Lol why would you protect or feel bad for someone who advocates to devalue your own self worth and teaches cognitive dissonance. That's weak. This is what she is asking for, and i hope she gets more. She has absolutely no spine, and she is a backstabbing coward.
@@wesleythomas7705 it's probably bc transphobia hurt this person (who got the trans flag pfp), so they can kinda feel what blaire white might feel, and then feel bad.
The blonde lady is evil and rude and disgusting. The way she was looking into the screen when she was like “tell them not to live like you” I got GENUINELY angry
Blaire needs to realize that the people she considered her political friends would force her into an asylum if they were ever in control of the government.
Or straight up murder here if it were legal
That's the "good" ending. We already know what fascists did to lgbtq people
@@ranbummerz729 Glad I'm not the one who has to point that out. Thank you.
@@ranbummerz729 Sadly true. When conservatives are in power there is no “good” outcome for lgbtq+ people.
@@Spongebrain97 yeah, god forbid that ever happens on a massive scale in the U.S.
Rare footage of Blaire White being lovingly welcomed with open arms by right-wingers, who are so open minded and accepting.
💀💀
So glad that she anticipated just how accepting these conservatives would be given that shes the token tran! maybe her rhetoric wasn't harmful to herself and her community after all :)
Still, that doesn't make the left all sunshine and rainbows. Can we all agree that both wings are trash?
@@ARCtheCartoonMaster I dont see what both sides have to do with it since she's talking to the side she identifies with, and they are clearly happy to have her.
@@Panthro-lo2lh Sorry, I thought you were being sarcastic, since everyone else here is saying these right-wingers hate Blaire’s guts.
i don't understand blaire. she has pushed away and alienated the community that might have actually accepted her, to- what? pander to people who don't treat her like a human?
Its so pitiful she must do it for money
i can’t imagine what else would incentivize her to do this.
This whole panel thingy felt like when a group of kids at school make fun of the loner kid and everyone else turns their head and laughs quietly-her job is to be bullied and seen as lesser than for her own valid identity.
I can’t help but feel sorry its just so pathetic she panders as hard as she does
Because if its not from bigoted conservatives she doesnt feel validated
I want to feel sorry for her but she knows conservatives wont accept her its literally in their name
Money will do that to some ppl
She hates herself. Contra made a video describing the phenomenon of trans women seeking out people to say terrible things to them.
Money. The grift pays and it pays very well.
Blaire and Lauren are both compensating for their insecurities. Lauren keeps saying “traditional” marriage is the only acceptable partnership, despite being an unmarried woman & saying all her past relationships with men have been toxic and caused her to abuse drugs. Blaire has said for years that being “passable” and following traditional standards will allow trans people to be accepted, while she is literally being bullied by the party she advocates for. It’s truly sad.
This is a really, really good point. Blaire shuts down for a good portion of this panel, but Lauren also visibly stops in her tracks when Karlyn pushes the "I have a husband and you don't" button. Like, very clearly, neither of them are happy people.
@@ramywiles none of them are happy indeed, and they let out those anger, insecurities and sadness by bullying others, like what blaire did with trans people who don't exactly look like her, and like what lauren did with basically every minority group ever.
Awww. This insight makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside. I hope they both live to a 150 and stay miserable for that entire time.
Blaire never said that about being passable. She only talks about putting any effort into transition, but she said many times that she doesn’t think being passable is a must.
@@DemanaJaire yea and once she ridiculed a seemingly "tomboy" transwoman who already went through bottom surgery, calling "her having a fetish." :/
Blaire really tried to preach about how she’s one of the good ones and still got told that she’s going to a death camp
It’s what happens when you boot lick. Same thing happened to the capital insurrectionist, it was “back the blue” until YOU were the target of the police. But Blair deserved none of this, I’m sorry she had to deal with this
What did she expect when she sided with the right wingers 😭 they hate trans people so they definitely gonna hate her
LGBT people should be wary of allying with conservatives. But just because you're LGBT doesn't mean that you should defacto ally with the left either. As a bisexual, it bothers me that leftists feel entitled to our vote. Democrats and the Liberal Party in Canada are not liberals. Liberals believe in individual liberty and civil liberties in general. Things that Democrats and Big-L Liberals have stomped all over during lockdowns and even before then. All I really want at this point is for the government to leave me alone. You can never trust the government to do anything in your interest. Power corrupts people. If you are poor, Democrats and Liberals want to keep you poor and dependent on them. They don't actually care about your material well-being. That doesn't mean the conservatives do either. The point is that government doesn't care about you. And most of society doesn't care about you either. I'm not one to say "pull yourself up by the bootstraps." But that's pretty much the only thing that people can really attempt to do to solve their problems because government has proven themselves to be unreliable at attending to peoples' needs over and over again.
@@blackpill9431 leftists know this .... leftists aren’t liberals
@@marxistdoll2597 The "liberal" parties aren't even liberal. They're something else entirely. They're like Nanny Statists. How can Democrats and big-L Canadian Liberals call themselves liberal when they don't even respect individual civil liberties? I'm not going as far as saying that taxation is theft but I can understand where libertarians are coming from when the vast majority of our taxes go towards bureaucracy and over-paid government employees (especially the higher-ups in government). And the Liberal government turns a blind eye to their wealthy bourgeois friends hiding income and assets abroad while auditing small business owners, hospitality workers and other plebs trying to escape the rat race.
Blaire is literally sitting there speechless. She ain’t even defending herself lmao. She would have so much more energy for a “radical leftist”.
DAT PART. She is worried about getting clipped probably.
Vaush debated her a year ago.
I start to feel bad for her, despite all the horrible things she has done. I don't know if there are underlying reasons for what she does or if it's really just a grift. If it's a grift it's so obviously not worth it.
Absolutely she would, and it reminds me a lot of her debate against Contra from years ago. Even as a Blaire fan, at the time, how transphobic she was being to contra was mad uncomfortable. So, while seeing her having to deal with the same shit she pushes is also very uncomf, I have no sympathy for her.
@@justaguy4081 It is a grift, the question is whether it's JUST a grift. Ain't no honest person out there photoshopping a political compass result for a minor adjustment.
She can't defend herself because she would get clipped and then have her own arguements used against her. She's on the back foot because her own side is treating her how she treats people.
I truly believe it's because she hates herself more then anything
Ye but blaire will never understand that cus she is dense asf
What’s stopping people from clipping this and using it against her when she talks about other trans women?
she made a few stupid cringe compilation type videos in like 2015 and apologized to the people she made fun of years ago. how is that comparable to how she's being treated during this debate? i guess i'm biased because i like her videos but i just really don't get what makes people think that blaire is an evil or hateful person.
edit: but what i actually meant to say is i completely agree with you that blaire handled the situation as best as anyone could.
@@blondinevloggt she's actively lied or completely misrepresented things in her videos. The main one's I remember her doing it with was Bambi Kardashian and the Trans Bodybuilder whose name I don't remember. Not to mention that the type of misinformation that she spreads is exactly what breeds this type of hatred
Even still, I don't think Blair deserves to be treated like this, no one does, this is completely unacceptable
The irony of the blonde woman saying that the other womans husband did something illegal and yet she was a literal cartel member.
THE DOUBLE STANDARDS
HELLO. SHE WAS A CARTEL MEMBER. WHAT
@@themyofmy SHE ACTUALLY WAS LMAOOOOOOOO
HOLY SHIT THIS WOULD'VE BEEN TOP COMMENT
Doesn't change the fact that either way she's consistent while Karlyn isn't and people like her are total hypocrites. If the standards were held she'd be sent to jail (if she wasn't already) and Karlyn's would be deported. I don't think that really conflicts with her beliefs
put 2 republicans in a room and sooner or later one will call the other a radical leftist
lmao that's exactly what happened in that infamous The BBC/Shapiro interview
@@eurekamreum5458 no British conservative would ever be considered a republican
give it 10 minutes and they'll have warpaint on their faces and a pig head on a stick
@@cannedrabiesHow I know my conservatives, it is more likely to be blackface than warpaint
@@enmysigmaquadrat9464
ironically enough they're both already pigs so
Blonde lady is just saying what right wingers are thinking
Refreshingly honest
Thinking or feeling?
@@50-50_Grind oh yeah, I forget the fact that conservatives have no thoughts or feelings of their own
@@hochmeisterr that’s edgy bro
@@hochmeisterr My great grandfather helped wipe your “reality” off the face of the planet. I would be honored to carry on the tradition... in Minecraft...
Blaire: /bootlicks Republicans/
Republicans: /spews transphobic comments at her/
Blaire: /surprised Pikachu face/
Pretty much
Except she literally wasn’t phased at all?
She knows these extra conservative republicans exist. You're point-scoring and lazy.
Blaire is a moderating trans influence on Republicans. While obviously not perfect, I'm happy there is a strong trans voice to speak to that audience and slowly gain acceptance. I'd argue she is a positive influence in an intolerant part of that community. More trans-positive Republicans is a good thing. Progress is slow.
The blonde chick was universally panned by the video's conservative audience. That's good news
@@mypartyisprivate8693 great reply. I find it weird that people try to tell Blaire that she is trying to insert herself into a place where people want her dead but it really isn’t the case. She agrees with a good amount of ways to run the country with the right than with the left. So why should her being trans be the reason why she can’t be a part of the republican side? Her being able to talk to them and to build some types of bridges is not a bad thing !!!
@@cupcakkerares Except she doesn’t. She lied about her political test results. I won’t tell Blaire which party to go to, that’s her decision. I will balk at her basically allowing her own supposed “allies” to thoroughly dehumanise her though. There’s only so many bridges you can build with people who don’t view you as a human being. Sooner or later they will cannibalise you. Though I suppose if some right leaning folks start to sympathise with trans individuals then that’s good. But I feel like society will eventually do that anyway. Blatant homophobia just doesn’t work anymore for the right trying to swing people, for instance.
it's interesting how this "pro-life" person seems to be so pro-torture and psychological abuse. i mean, she literally said conversion therapy should be re-legalized in this discussion.
She obviously doesnt see conversion therapy as torture
She's just an idiot fallen way too deep into the nazi propaganda. There's nothing you can do to prove these people wrong. They're just too entangled within their own delusion. No choice but to watch them drive themselves insane.
In her world she doesnt see it as torture she sees it as helping people. But shes so cruel and mean that it's hard to say she ain't grifiting. I assume shes not.
"Pro-a very specific subset of lives, and those lives only" doesn't roll off the tongue in the same way, I suppose
Umm conversion therapy is totally fine for those who fully consent to it, no one is forced you can leave the therapy whenever you want lmao. Nothing wrong with people making their own choices if they want lollll
Even as she's openly being mocked and degraded by this woman the most important thing she feels to emphasize is that she is a "good tran".
@Lia's Place that is because even the most extreme right-wing understands that LGBTQ+ rights are not about individual virtues or to define who is a "good" or a "bad" "degenerate" (and boy they scared), the only one who doesn't understand this is Blaire.
Model minority 101
Be a good minority and TAKE OUR ABUSE!
If being told to grow a mustache and stop being who you are doesn't make her see the light nothing will.
eyup, and it does work. Here's a reply to a comment on a superstraight video that made me laugh.
_You didnt see this coming? When you push stuff in people's faces, people can push back. You guys could afford some common decency when it comes to the straight community, like being in touch with reality like Blaire White._
Shes the token transgirl
Wonder if it worth it.
Absolutely pathetic miserable life. Imagine selling yourself out like that. Girl has no integrity, self worth or dignity. But then again it takes someone who really is messed up mentally to side with such obvious fascists like blondie here.
The part where Doyle said "The private bedroom argument isn't real because there is no private life" needs to be clipped and shipped all over the internet. Jesus Christ, never ever let these depshits pretend to be the party of "individual liberty" again. Never let them put on the mask again.
They're the party of freedom and individual liberty yet they love telling people the proper way to express their gender identity, who they can or can't be attracted to, how many kids they must have and so on. They love policing every single aspect of each others lives but then will whine about the "authoritarian left" lmao it's absolutely ridiculous.
@@eurekamreum5458 I mean it's not really, if you understand their perspective, they probably do believe in personal liberty, for people like themselves, exclusively, there is no contradiction here if you read the subtext, which is that people not like them are not human and therefor able to poses individual liberty.
They don't value individual liberty and they don't want small government. They want a taylor-made government that outlaws whatever they don't like and forces people to live according to how they think everyone should live. That the right wants small govt is the most embarrassing joke ever.
Exactly!
These people do not give a shit about freedom or anything the constitution says, they just want America to be like Nazi Germany
The other girl with glasses fought harder for LGBTQ in this conversation than Blaire did
@@GamerKittyEuphoric considering his history, its seems hard to believe.
@@HeronSight what do you mean by his history? He's in entertainment business and run a freaking beauty pageant, I don't think you could be successful in those if you're a homophobic.
Not to mention he's "ex" democrat
@@LarryVasquez82 a lot of the anti trans laws that were spiteful passed by his administration at the end of his term.
@@LarryVasquez82 What a stupid argument
@@LarryVasquez82 bruh are u alt right cause I"m gonna lose it
holy. shit. Carlin saying "I'm sorry I have a husband and you don't." to a tradwife larper is probably one of the funniest things I've heard in my entire life
It's literally just an OOOOOHHHHH moment
Even John Doyle laughed at that. He probably thinks Lauren is batshit crazy and hearing that was probably a moment of catharsis.
That killed me. I know i don't agree with Carlin but i love her for that. Fucking murdered her
Time stamp plss
@@omkarjadhav86641:22:58
Borysenko not only defended herself from the Nazi better than Blaire did,
she also defended Blaire better than Blaire did...
Karlyn Borysenko might be an ignorant egotistical weirdo, but I get the feeling she’d be an ok friend
1:23:00 LOL was not expecting to burst out laughing during this but she actually made me. That girl was being a c*nt the entire time and someone finally put her in her place.
The blonde lady would kill people if she could get away with it, that's just the vibe she gives me.
But she is Girl Power though...
Not babies though!
Like 6 million people?
That vibe would be based if her ideology wasn't cringe
@@Z-O-D-I-Y-A-K no only 250k xd
I'm honestly shocked that the crazy blonde called Blair she/her. I was expecting her to misgender out of hate and spite alone.
She's probably too airheaded to consciously remember that Blaire used to be biologically male.
@@jjabbott7249 this.
It's like that time when Ben Shapiro accidentally used someone's right pronouns, then immediately corrected himself
They might have told her before the call by the hosts that she had - she very clearly has a virulent hatred for Blaire in her heart. Whats sad is that if she *had* misgendred her, Blaire would probably wouldnt even have defended herself
I think she used “it” for trans people in general multiple times though
@@XCeazyX oh for sure, that's why I was shocked she used the right pronouns to Blair.
I thought for sure she would call Blair "it" or "he"
I'm not giving her credit...cause fuck her, but it just made me do a double take.
Blair isn’t a republican, she’s just a democrat who watched way too
many SJW cringe compilations.
That's exactly what I though. She seems exactly like a disaffected liberal who watched too many "FEMINISTS REKT" videos in 2016.
Lol this^ 💯💯
@@wowee5334 she's only conservative so she would seem different and get more views. she literally faked things to fit more to her narratives and for the topic to be more shocking so she gets more views, like what she did to that trans athlete janae marie and many others.
@@neophilosophy1764 I used to love those videos.
@Deconstruction618 Yes but when all you do is watch those videos, you have a warped sense of reality of anything related to social justice
Wait, if she was really a social conservative shouldn’t she be in the kitchen supporting her husband while he takes part in these “debates”?
don't forget "traditional" yet(i have done a cursory search via google, and can't find her age?) she is presumably in her 30s, un-married and childless.
I think it just means racist lmao
@@pompitousoflove how is that a bad thing
@@kingofracism The racism or the fact she doesn't have any kids?
@@donyates7300
Isn't this most conservatives and other bigoted people who talk like this? They all like to go on about 'degenerates' while not living what they're preaching either.
"I just like to win and save babies"
She lost the election when she ran for congress in Delaware. Hopefully she still has the babies thing going on.
"My number one priority in life is to produce as many white children as possible" - every virgin nazi who has never held hands with a girl.
Well she won at drug dealing and running for the cartel so I guess she's right.
As a drug runner she killed more people and babies than she will ever know until her judgement day.
Hopefully she doesn't...she shouldn't be raising kids
Well she doesn't like babies if she doesn't support trans kids getting the help they need
that blonde woman telling blaire to grow out her mustache was disgusting
Blondie should try growing out her soul/spirit/conscience.
@@Ragitsu and a braincell would be useful 🙁
as if she doesn’t bleach hers
@@Ragitsu tru
@@ameliaj8791 She bleached her brain?
That blonde woman's smile is horrific. She's making the motion with her mouth, but her eyes remain cold and lifeless.
Can't really fake having a soul very well when you are a soul murder I suppose.
The comment about there being no such thing as a private realm was just so precious as well. Not only to reveal what utter fascism the two 'traditional conservatives are but just how full shit it utter is. Just simply ask the two how they feel about the government invading their churches and homes....bet they would run might quick back to the private realm than to argue for 'Their rights.
I call them psycho smiles
She is LITERALLY genuinely evil.
Nazi grimace.
Working in customer service I have met many psychopaths with that smile with the lifeless eyes.
It’s interesting to watch John Doyle’s face as Lauren goes straight to calling Blaire White a degenerate who shouldn’t be platformed. Like you can tell he’s thinking, “hey, I think that too, but we’re supposed to like... dog whistle about that stuff”
Dogwhistle? What's that? is that the background noise in my head because I have no thoughts?
@@nikdoesstuff9338 yes
“Don’t say the quiet part out loud!”
@@CEOofAutism oh boy I get a raise
Seriously though. I honestly felt like eventually he went quiet because Lauren was saying _everything_ he felt, but without any kind of filter. None.
Milo vs Blair White vs Jesse Lee Peterson self hate contest. Who would win?
Is Candace Owens the reserve in case someone falls out?
That's an AMAZIN question!
@@eman22017 she rounds it out into a proper battle royal
@@eman22017 shes a grifter i doubt shes as bad as JLP
What about Candace Owens?
So, John Doyle doesn’t think individual rights exist because.....we throw gay pride parades......?
“Makes sense to me!”
-Patrick Star
Never forget, Vaush is anarchist. Basically everything is collectivist especially goose stepping conservatives who want everyone to Either conform and accept divine retribution
Doyle is the real cancel culture because he wants to cancel pride parades
When the somewhat sympathetic villain gets beaten and humiliated by the more powerful and more evil villain to introduce them as a bigger threat
Blaire is gonna through Lauren down the waste chute like Darth Vader did to Palpatine 😭
@@chunguslongjon9666 and then Lauren comes back from the dead by "Moustache growing."
@So tired of this. It's "Always A Bigger Fish"
If Lauren could finger snap half the country away she would do it via party lines
loki getting killed by thanos
I know for a fact that the “host” has no respect for Blair, he literally sat there while another guest called her a pedo, the entire time, and let her blatantly insult her whenever she was brought up, then got on Blair’s case about saying “stolen” instead of “borrowed”. I don’t like Blair at all, but I hate the absolute disrespect and hatred even more.
His show runs ads for TheBlazeTV™ and prep food, he is in Glenn Becks corner. So yeah, this guy is uber pilled.
Being able to still empathize with Blair being blatantly disrespected because she's trans and remaining consistent in your views/morals regarding lgbtq+ issues is honestly so admirable and refreshing to see. This ability is something I tend to only see in left leaning circles, majority of my family is conservative and I see them throw their values out the window if it means "owning" the other side. I see this attitude in a lot of conservative communities too.
@@rewdskwid Conservatives don't have morals or values. They only care about winning.
I hate to defend the guy in this instance... but he said that because of a persecution complex (youtube would take the vid down), rather than an "attack" against Blair.
Everything else you said was spot on.
True she doesn't deserve that
This debate:
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Thanks for the recap 😂
@@thisisthewaterandthisisthe3254 no prob Bob.
@@kayakat1869 it’s Lapis
I really hope at this point Blaire white realises who she is defending and changes her mind, but the money will probably keep her on the right
I have hope for her, cuz I have no hope for the right, i think she has it in her to change. I mean she used to be good friends with Shoeonehead, who I don’t love but appreciate her coming around a lil bit
She won't realize it. In fact she made a big show on her social media of going to a club with her friends and later called herself a t slur. And I know people love telling me that it's just "reclaiming" the slur but Blaire isn't using it to reclaim it. She literally thinks she deserves to be called slurs, she literally doesn't think she's a woman, she sees herself as a t slur. I know it's confusing since she loves talking passing and transmedicalism and how there are only two genders while simultaneously denying being a man or a woman but that's what she believes. Gosh I feel so bad for her, she clearly hates herself
@Lia's Place I don't hate her as well even though she's doing a lot of harm. But my heart also breaks for her. Gosh this girl hates herself so much I'm literally starting to worry she'll try to hurt herself.
@Lia's Place I think I would pity her if she wasn't such a grifter
@@disastermidi1990 I pray vaush can do a hunter avallone on her
This is unironically a Contrapoints sketch
Which one?
@@Richard-jm3um Pretty much anything with her character 'Tiffany Tumbles' who represents Blair imo. You can check out Contrapoints' Transtrenders vid
those tiffany tumbles skits really comes to life
@@JoshSci Blaire is hot tho 🤷🏾
@@Vyper78 Not sure what that has to do with anything, but alright lol 😂
I feel like at this point, Blaire is playing a character, and I wish she would quit. On her second channel, where she does more personal type content, I actually find her valley girl personality endearing. She could have a better career just being herself and not throwing other trans women under the bus. I almost (ALMOST) feel bad for her because she clearly feels trapped by the character she's created. She's talked openly about feeling depressed and lost in her UA-cam career.
Unless she’s a total psychopath - I doubt that - there’s no way she can take all this without it doing her damage. Maybe I’m projecting but she looks and sounds like a broken woman here and I can’t help but feel deeply sorry for her. She’s still so young ffs. I know she does a lot of harm and there’s no excuse for that. Still though.
Yep, like Dave Rubin, she found a lane within conservative circles early on, made a ton of money, but since then that token shtick has worn off and she's starting to lose subs so she's caught between a rock and a hard place.
@@chrisstoltz3648 wait, which grifters?
I have so many mixed feelings about Blair. She's done so much harm but I still think that she doesn't deserve to be treated like rubbish. It makes me sad honestly. I wish she would see that she's a prop and be more honest and challenge her world view and advocate against her previously held harmful stances. Being trans is so rough and shes making it harder but part of me will always sympathize with her because I know she probably struggled a lot even if she has done some messed up stuff.
@I like fat chicks. didn't blaire white admit to having an eating disorder? and she fatshames people
and she's trans and looks down on other trans people?
she needs therapy
Fuck, I hate Blair as a person, but this is genuinely painful to watch. I still don't want her to go through this, but she's the only one that can change that.
I’m going to LA next week hopefully I get to see her out on the street and say “ girl what the fuck was that?! “
@@oopsiepoopsie2898 she’s in Dallas now I think
No one should be attacked for their gender identity. She absolutely deserves criticism for breeding this kind of hate but no one deserves to be treated that way.
@@alisonfool eh, I don't know if she deserves it or not (actually, I think she does). But I certainly don't feel bad for her, she earned it every step of the way
She was also physically attacked on the street by a lefty because she was wearing a maga hat. She had injuries. These people infuriate me.
I've said this before but minorities siding with social conservatives is like little kids thinking the teenagers actually like them and aren't just messing with them
wait... they were just messing with me?
@@lysergidedaydream5970 there's actually a larger chance they thought you were super cool than there is a chance of conservatives caring about minorities
@@Nonaryfame damn you're actually super cool for this. No cap.
@@maybemablemaples2144 thanks
@@macmcskullface1004 I definitely think that a big part to it but a lot of them come from homes that openly shame them for who they are and they seem to think taking it out on the group's they're in will make their conservative family want them again
That blonde woman is awful and hateful. And Blaire failing to defend herself is utterly shameful and spineless
Blaire's videos and entire career is built around bashing the trans community. She deserves whatever roasting the conservatives can dish out. She is an enemy to the TG community. No aid and no comfort for the enemy.
It's was genuinely depressing to listen to her and the dude with glasses.
The bad audio quality is a result of the mic picking up the hamster running on a wheel inside John Doyle’s head
LMFAO
Poor hamster 😢
@@plaguedoctorjamespainshe6009 “poor” lol
Clearly that hamster has been slacking
@@jerm-gv9rv you can hook a Tesla battery up to a potato but it won't generate a coherent and thoughtful worldview. This isn't on the hamster, it's on the big guy in the clouds who drew up the blueprints for the potato and hooked it up wrong in John's head.
@@samus598 ohh yeah that’s right I forgot him....I guess this would fall on him wouldn’t it, ugh fine the hamster’s innocent
* record scratch * * freeze frame *
Yup, that’s me, *Blaire White* .You’re probably wondering how I ended up in this situation.
This was everything And More
"Let me take you back... to the summer of 2016."
I screamed lmfaaao
as the masterpiece ratatouille would say “this is me. i think it’s apparent that i need to rethink my life a little bit. what’s my problem? first of all...i’m a conservative grifter that aligns myself with people who see me as sub-human for being transgender”
GOD..
"Our country was founded on family."
Slavery had a pretty big impact on family. So did genocide. Whose family are you talking about, Barbie?
White, middle upper class ones, duhhhh 💀
Please don't call her barbie. Barbie is so much better than this 😍
White Christian patriarchal Anglo business owners.
@@frostbitegaming3289 Barbie is a whole icon
Gang 🙋🏼♂️⚡⚡
How was the debate topic “future of the Republican Party” but 90% of the discussion was “lgbt bad” like?
Because as being LGBTQ+ becomes accepted they'll have to decide whether they openly hate them or just do so behind closed doors. Plus Blaire isn't cis so they that one crazy woman had to attack her the whole time smh. I almost feel bad for her. If she wasn't present I'm feel like they wouldn't keep looping back to LGBT people so much.
Because Republicans are no longer on the populist side of any issue, so the only thing they have to fall back on is identity politics and fear tactics. And it's working, for now.
That's both the past and the future of their party. That's who they are. Being conservative means they won't change due to the fact they don't want to. That's why we are still dealing with the Confederacy here.
the debate is just lauren bullying blaire and blaire trying so hard o be accepted and be palatable, like a kid trying to get their abusive mother to love them
All the right is capable of is inventing and rallying around a moral panic. That’s how.
It's fascinating watching two "Christians" pretend as if the golden rule, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself isn't a thing.
Right? Also everyone is created in God's image. Pulled that one with my mom yesterday when she kept being a transphobe when I was with her in the car. But then she agreed but then kept being one a little longer. Then I brought up this video to her cuz I saw it friday morning and she then said Christians or conservatives are not all like lauren or John and I busted out laughing in my head because like 3 min before she was saying the same crap they were spewing. Love my mom but not her ideology.
@@drock9009 shame about your mum's transphobia, but she is luckily right on one thing most Christians aren't like her and as shown by the polls Vaush brought up, a majority are for gay rights and hopefully trans.
Omg when Doyle was like “umm so Jesus was talking about being vaguely nice to each other” my first thought was, what about “do unto others as you would have done yourself?”
I’m not even a Christian and I know that’s supposed to be the rule followed above all else. Smh
To a lot of Christians, the ultimate expression of love is to save you from damnation. This can lead to some....terrible results.
@@andrewkruse7899 I'd say in my experience that isn't true, remember there are 2.4 billion Christians.
What’s wild is blaire has been so broken that she blames “trenders” for why nazis treat her like this : /
they'd probably make her wanna go back to just being "Robby" 😳
@@LelynnsSquirrels Yikes. Blaire sucks but don't deadname her.
@@NixDolores This is news to me. I was under the impression, from the comments, that Blaire was wanting to switch, not that she had switched.
@@Roadent1241 Wait what? I was just saying it's in poor taste to make a joke at her expense that uses her dead name.
@@NixDolores I didn't know that she had a deadname though, and by 'trans' I assumed she was born female and wanted to transition into a guy, and this thread threw me the other direction.
I agree, I'm just saying 'Wow I didn't know this I thought it was the other way around, she's just settling into the idea she wants to change.'.
Blaire definitely hates herself. I was conservative & trans when i was younger, i hated other trans people because i hated myself.
I know blaire cried after this
Damn how you sure she cried
She looked like she was about to cry *during* this
I was in the same spot a few years ago except I am black and was a race realist :))))))
Hating yourself to own the libs
Should I feel bad for her
As much as I hate Blair, being a transwoman myself it really hurt to see her get treated like this.
Trans guy here and I feel the same way. I can only hope she learned something from this. :/
don't, if you were in the same room as that white blonde witch, and telling you the same things she told Blaire, she would laugh at you together with the other 3.
@@CRSB00
I feel you, and I can understand why. It hurts to see one of your own hurting themselves and the people in their community.
We're all human. To see such self-loathing and hate without at least trying to see them..
To me it's like telling a suicidal person to pull the trigger. She's obviously swimming in a sea of self-hate and that sh- is hard to break.
There has to be some way to show her a way towards love, a way towards discovery, she's drowning in a sea of conservatism for crying out loud!
Of course it seems impossible but there is importance in maintaining a healthy amount of empathy. When we dehumanize people to the bare exoskeleton of a hateful, transphobic, and homophobic person we are obviously going to hate them.
Hate the the things they say, do, stand for, but hating them as a person crosses into a dangerous territory of potentially being able to excuse violence towards them.
Shit as a cis/het white guy it hurt my heart to see a trans woman treated like that by fascism barbie, but I agree that she encourages people like that with her own actions and outspoken ideology. Hell she couldn't even stand up for herself at all when she was being attacked like that because her ideology wouldn't let her. It shows the failure of her ideology and the hate it inevitably leads to.
That mustache comment made me wanna snatch that girls wig for sure
John Soyle's sickly little half-smile whenever the blonde lady whales on Blaire. He's such a creep.
one of the most entertaining parts tbh
Its always entertaining to watch Republicans go full mask off.
I really find him such a joke.
@@discdoggie why tho
@@craigwatchesyoutube401 Did you watch the video?
I would bet all the money in the world that the blonde chick has called the cops on black people minding their own business at some point.
I would bet all the money in the world that she's done it on multiple occasions
Anyone who takes that bet is running their pockets for sure
The white dude: in conclusion you shouldn’t vote Republican if you believe in equality.
Facts, Couldn’t have stated it better 👏🏾👀💯
I saw this video friday on someone elses channel who was reacting to this and I said Boom there it is he said it he openly said it. Just needed confirmation! We knew it but needed that confirmation.
People really need to clip all these comments and put them in a compilation and just call it "Republican party: mask off"
@@theearthisnotflat4398 The blonde chick would be the star of that video lmfao.
@@theearthisnotflat4398 For real
Time stamp?
It's almost as if, as time moves on, and as people and societies change, conservative ideals become outdated and are no longer fit for purpose in a modern world. Ultimately meaning that conservatives need to be progressive and change their ideals to no get left behind.
Conservatives always find themselves on the wrong side of history.
@@kazmiller96 It never fails…
It's really telling that most of Blaire's responses are arguments for why SHE should be allowed in the party, not LGBT people in general.
YES! She didn't defend LGBTQ people; instead, she bolsters her tokenism by throwing the community under the bus. They refused to take her token though and spit in her face while refusing her.
blonde girl: attacks trans people calling them IT, telling blaire to grow out facial hair.
blonde girl after being rosted: w-well I was in toxic relationships a-a-and I'm g-g-ggeting their :(
god their so fucking weak when they get punched back.
Kaiser
But isn't this Blaire getting punched back? After years of saying being cruel to people is ok and the way to go? I'm fine with it. So why does it seem like we're on the side of the people that have been spreading hate and racism for years now over the other people who are more honest about their bigotry? Because those people could fit in somewhat left/liberal spaces? The one's that are supposed to be worse than Blaire and Karlyn on race didn't even say or do anything explicitly racist. Really what we should be talking about is how Karlyn is being 'intolerant' because she can't accept people she disagrees with and wants to censor them. She's an enormous hypocrite
You a furry?
@@dimthecat9418 ye
@@mauzki- epic me too
Ha ha . Is that why you guys cry so much about transphobia? Sure.
Seeing that clip with Blaire's compass test made me so sad. She clearly does not align with the views of the audience she panders to, but she still seeks acceptance from them.
She actually faked the results. There's a video showing evidence that she looked up a lib-left results sheet to pretend that's what she got
@@TheReddShinobi13 can you share it?
the left is very forgiving (almost too forgiving). does she not realize that she’d be accepted over here? it’s just so sad.
@@randomperson-pt3lv no y'all aren't! You kidding me?
@@resistancearmy5385 you don't know anything about the left lol. like i said, people here are way too forgiving imo.
blonde actually thinks just being in the US and not being a citizen or permanent resident makes you an "illegal". She doesn't know about all the tourists I guess
My favorite visas:
Alien of extraordinary talent(basically musicians and actors and stuff like that. Get to stay for a year and gets renewed)
The rich guy visa(set up a LLC and pay 250k and you get a visa)
I would feel bad for Blaire if she hadn’t built her brand around being the “good trans” while throwing non-binary and non-passing trans people under the bus.
Candace Owens, Dave Rubin, Blaire White...now we just need a lesbian and a latino person and we'll have the complete set
@@cjvaye99 The lesbian is Arielle Scarecella
@@cjvaye99 Fuentes?
@@Anthropomorphic is he actually Hispanic? I know some people have Hispanic last names but they're just white or European like Spain.
@@cjvaye99 I think he's said that part of his family is Mexican. He thinks he's white enough, though.
I can FEEL Blaire just disassociating every time the crazy blonde lady starts talking.
You can see it in the eyes. It’s hard to watch
well if she pays attention and dissociating, she might started crying. after all she'd done to be acceptable by the altright, she still got told to grow a mustache. i understand why she acts like that throughout this whole "debate"
Damn, I'm not necessarily surprised by her faking her political compass test results, but I guess I'm shocked at how shameless she is. I hope more people pick up on that.
I think I'm going to rewatch that vid and copy her answers to see what I get.
Idk if her faking it is a good thing or bad? Cause its like if her true beliefs are lib left (fairly okay imo) then maybe theres hope for her idk her whole thing is really pathetic and just pitiful to me
@@zebraskin Yes you should! I was thinking that too. I hope people do that and see what happens.
@@claritybluee I'll report back with my findings
If they did no right winger would ever have a chance ever
I know this was months ago, but.. People like Doyle are terrifying. People see them as reasonable because they’re able to remain “polite” and “well-spoken.” He’s just as nuts as Lauren, but passes his beliefs off as reasonable and well thought-out. That’s how dangerous, fascist ideas spread like wildfire. When it’s mistaken for being “acceptable” because they say it with a smile and a clean appearance. Even Blair called him reasonable though he argued for the same things as Lauren.
I was just about to write this! I know blondie is nuts, but Doyle says just as bad shìt, but with a "nerdy" vibe, so it comes off not as bad. His comments on blaming Jared for everything he hates about Trump makes my skin crawl. I've been through some terrifying antisemitism in my life & it's people like him that make me still scared. When my husband goes out, he's noticeably Jewish, (he wears his yarmulke always) I'm always worried in the back of my mind that he'll be attacked for it, because idiots like Doyle are spreading their hate more & more.
If you haven't already, go check out Big Joel's video on this debate! Though I have a hunch you may be here because of that video :)
@@j.c.jeggis1818 That's how I found out about it. After watching Big Joel's video, I instantly searched for a Vaush video, curious to see his takes on the debate.
2023 update: John Doyle is now prancing around with red pilled podcasters :/
I can't believe I'm saying this, but Dr. Karlyn is achieving her goal of seeming like a common sense centrist. Unfortunately, it's because she's opposite a mask-off Christian fascist.
I feel like that woman never had a mask to begin with... why are the most zealous religious people the most like demons??
@;; m&m 's I'm Christian Agnostic most days. People like her definitely push would-be Christians or even people interested in Christianity away. All the venom she spits out is antithetical to Jesus's life whether you believe in He existed or not.
@@sentientvegan3070 I mean, yeah, the Bible COULD be interpreted as a centrist or center left text... But the meme of Jesus being a based anarchist is actually pretty easy to defend on textual grounds. What's wrong with giving that reading of the table-flipping radical who preaches against the evils of greed, and whose mythological deeds include giving bread to the common people?
I'm speaking as an atheist who's read chunks of Bible for research purposes. But basically, this is generally a good thing, because it means the less outright fascist elements of Christian communities can probably be breadpilled way more easily if we start arguing substantively in favor of pretty much any left leaning interpretation of religious scripture. Do you have any idea how many people would become leftists if we started quoting Scripture next to every point instead of Marx or Kropotkin?
@;; m&m 's Damn right. Honestly, maybe you should start trying to legit breadpill devout Christians in your community if you haven't already. Say "Oh, you know, welfare programs are basically like the time Jesus multiplied the bread and fish... And you want to be more Christ-like, right?"
@;; m&m 's What the heck is vuvuzela supposed to mean in this context?
I mean, yeah, it beats the hell out of trying to sell atheism AND leftism to religious people. I'm a complete atheist - I can't hold a single religious belief, I've tried - but I genuinely don't care about aesthetic purity or group cohesion at all, only about results.
So, to me, it's as simple as - if it keeps people out of the far right, good. If it alienates people and drives them toward the far right, bad.
Incidentally, where are you even from? In the US, evangelical Christianity is like that because the churches are literally run by professional con artists who follow the gospel of Barnum. Here in the Philippines it's because the Catholic Church wants a theocracy by any means.
I have so much respect for Blaire tbh.
I mean it must be hard to sit upright for an hour without a spine.
I too wonder in moments like this if she even has a clarity of thought that "wow if these people ever get into full power I'm a fucking dead woman."
@@drmobius2343
good transphobe joke, im crying
@@drmobius2343
i simply hope you never get the chance to hurt any trans people you come across, people like you are dangerously stupid
@@drmobius2343
what are you talking about? you're clearly homophobic and possible danger to trans people near you. that's all i said
@@drmobius2343 you know most times when someone's particularly hostile to a group like trans people its because they're suppressing their own identity
Why does nobody notice that John Doyle said that "real conservatism" hasn't been a thing for 70 years. When the civil rights movement happened
Doyle hates equality. Thing is my life is far from perfect im a straight cis afro latino and while I dont typically think im better then anyone regardless of race. However I know I am better then every single far right white conservative nut like doyle who believe the universe needs to revolve around them because 100 years ago thats what society was like as if every white dude had power other then their skin back then.
He believes the best time to be alive was during the 50s.
The time where if you weren't a straight, white, cis dude you were suffering constant social and political discrimination.
It honestly tells you how much he cares about these groups who don't conform to the aforementioned categories.
PepeHmm
Oh my god, I never noticed that before lol. Its all coming together now...
@@sowietdoge6259 It's not even that, he only cares for the aesthetics of the 50s, not the actual reality of the decade. Plenty of white cishet women were increasingly getting tertiary sector jobs. Life also sucked for housewives and their husbands so there's that too.
Conservatives: Why do people not like us! 😢
Conservatives: *makes this video*
Cultural marxism is when i can't say slurs, the less slurs i can say, the more marxist it is.
@@fisheryboi835 haha I don’t know how I missed this but yeah that’s spot on.
I really don't like to use the "self-hating trans" description for Blaire because I don't like to try and diagnose psychological issues, but more and more it seems like the case. She attacks any trans person who does anything wrong, and here she can't even stick up for herself. The girl has issues
Sick
Self hating isnt really a diagnostic, I mean I'm black, if I took shit for conservative money I'd have to hate myself or love money more
@Lia's Place in 1 of 2 ways
1 fascist take over and behead her or Republicans run out of money because socialism
@Lia's Place no I understand it's the world we lived in, I'm a transwoman and I used to be transphobic....thought not as bad as that blond woman more like how liberals are transphobic
Blaire is a grifter
when Carolyn Borysenko is the most reasonable sounding person on a panel, there's a problem.
Jesus was brown, like these people wouldn't even let him come into the country...
They would crucify him and defend the Romans
The left tends to avoid talking points like this and I hate it. Powerful observation and great point that needs to be repeated ad nauseam
@@wabznasm9660 ***the right
Jesus was white what you talking about Willis?
@@Pink_pr1ncess I mean it was gods plan for his son to die for humanities sins, right? So crucifying him (or shooting him in the neck in a modern setting) would be the right thing to do, technically, would it not?
The Roman Empire is somewhat important in traditional catholic belief I think, in Dantes Inferno Julius Caesar is in Limbo while the traitors Brutus and Cassius are, with Judas, in the depths of hell, getting chewed up by Lucifer - this would be because the line of Roman emperors is seen as divinely inspired by the catholic church, as Jesus was allegedly born under the reign of Augustus.
“Win the country back from the left” has literally the same energy as “white people are oppressed” like I can’t- 😂
It's not a bad idea. The left have officially jumped the shark.
@@matthewbaumann630 okay boomer
@@Thebes342 Maybe you should say a stupid phrase like that to an actual boomer. LOL
@@matthewbaumann630 So you're a boomer in spirit then?
@@Thebes342 Nope, I just use common sense. Apparently it's not very common.
Blaire. You can pander to them all you want but they will never accept you.
Dave Rubin and Milo Yiannopolis too. Conservatives HATE the LGBT.
You goddamn right we won't. You guys take him.
@@yeager14 we will gladly take her when she realizes how disgusting the conservatives right wingers are and learns that she is at fault for putting many trans including herself at so much risk. If she apologizes and learns we will gladly accept her. But even if she ain't a lefty right now i still don't want her to get harassed..
@@wayln2591 Yeah, this shit is hard to watch. Every time I see a right leaning trans person, I cringe because I know damn well that said person is getting harassed by other right wingers for it.
@@yeager14 i am totally fine with that
She did a lot of bad things
But she desearves more than to be in a group full of 14 yo edgy lords
I actually feel bad for Blaire, hopefully this was a wake-up call for her that the people she caps so hard for literally would take away her rights if they could.
She needs therapy.
off topic but i luv ur pfp!
they literally have
I don't feel shit for Blaire. Like Vaush said, she knows full well what these people believe and she will gladly support them no matter how many people they hurt.
Let me say this... hypothetically... woke disappears... wait for it... "I didn't change, the party changed" is going to go back to the Democrat party and actual conservatives will have their party fully back. Blaire will be Democrat... only if woke disappears or they turn her woke.
"We have a trans gender in here"
This is gonna be a long video that's actually going to make me feel sympathy for Blaire. Youch
I don't feel sorry for her. She's been doing this long enough to know exact how her chosen peer group treats her. She literally signs up for this treatment every day because she either likes the money, hates herself, or both.
If she wasn't pushing ideas, policies, and politicians that harm people for profit, I would pity her.
She could have stopped at any time and still can and chooses not to.
@@dontuserachelslurs doesn't mean it feels good to watch someone get treated that way. My empathy doesn't end because a person may not have any. Doesnt mean she didn't put herself in the line of fire for sure
@Gil Hannity yeah I just dont base my compassion on the person in question. I still feel bad. And I dont waste anything by doing so. My empathy isn't a reservoir that can be drained. Now granted I also know that this is what happens when you dig yourself a grave. Im not gonna stop her from burying herself but I also can still feel bad watching a human being treated that way. Just like I wouldn't be cool with Candace Owen's being called "a black" in front of people.
@Gil Hannity I agree with everything. For me I look at it the way I did Richard Spencer. I didn't want him to get punched in the face. I dont like looking at it. It shouldn't happen. But I also wouldn't remove him from harms way. It ought not happen. But im also going to...honestly...let it happen. Someone digs that grave for themselves they can see if they can avoid it. But to me it's how I feel with all the pick mes.
Damn, I feel bad for Blaire. She really let Lauren denigrate her to such a degree that it was gross 🤮
the worse thing is she still tries to be palatable and pandering towards lauren, like agreeing with some of lauren's points, etc. it's like a child who's trying to please their abusive mother.
@@blepblep7245 Was Blaire abused? This is abused person behavior.
@@richardarriaga6271 i mean probably. a lot of trans people are abused by their transphobic parents
but if Blaire had defended herself, she would have looked like an SJW to them. I think she didn't want her emotions to be used against her.
She didn't need "emotions" to justify her right to live. The Nazi woman was using emotions too and making false claims that could have been easily debunked with facts, facts I'm sure Blair knows of. But Blaire chose to let that woman and man denigrate her. I feel sorry for her. She clearly hates her life.
@@Whackadoo1 even if she had used facts, she would still looked like an SJW to the conservative audience. the woman is a NAZI, but if blaire called her that she would be saying she doesn't belong there. blaire's whole deal is to normalize LGBT people in conservative conversations, she does this by lying that she is right-wing. you have to admit that she has done some good, like made conservative parents understand their kids ( go to her comment sections). she is obviously not making these parents into activists but she is still trying to normalize lgbt people (at least certain lgbt people).
@@unlucky1349 but her accomplishments dont outweigh her detriments to society though. She is encouraging people to vote for a party that does not want them with rights or dignity at best or to exist at all, at worst. Either way she's leading herself towards the oppression and destruction of her people. She cant even defend her against blatant disrespect? I'm not trans but I cant imagine how that would be good representation for either side. It's like Candan Owen for me. Black authoritarians make no sense to me.
@@Whackadoo1 you are right she doesn't make sense. she may be inviting liberals to vote for the republican party but at the same time, just by simply existing in the republican party she is making it more liberal or at least inclusive. she IS changing what it means to be republican. she might not fully eliminate the bias and prejudices of her audience but she was able to challenge conservatives like Ben Shapiro into admitting that using preferred pronouns is actually appropriate. the problem is that she misrepresents trans people so that her audience sees her as the "one of the good ones". she doesn't fully educate her audience. she only provides what is digestible to them. her whole thing is "I am not an SJW", "identity politics bad", "i have common sense".
@@unlucky1349 a lot of liberals vote Republican. Many Republicans are fiscally liberal and socially conservative. She is not helping because the right will always lead towards authoritarianism and fascism, ie. Fascist Barbie and Specs McGoo in this video. Right wing ideology is built on keeping things the same at best and not moving forward at all at worst. Being a good Black Republican doesn't help when your are a greedy capitalist who hangs around white capitalists, who support inequality which serves capitalism. See what I'm saying? Her being a good trans won't matter much because her ideology is shared by people who eventually want to control and destroy and subjugate, with minorities being the first up always. History tells us this.
I’ve never seen someone lick a boot while that boot is repeatedly kicking them in the face. Amazin’
Seems to be a steel-toed boot too
True talent. I think you hate to stick your tongue out right on the downward blow.
I really hope that this is blaire whites wakeup call because this grifting must be so damaging to her mentally
It won’t be she wants the 💁🏼♀️💰 and she hates herself
Mmmmh yea thats not happening .
@@agirlthatstrans7815 yeah it probably won't but i just wanna keep a little hope on the side just in case ya know
It’s damaging to every grifter, even if you’re a white male. Wisdom frees the soul.
I genuinely want someone on the left to meaningfully reach out to her, in private.
Every time Lauren smiles I feel like she's telling me that I'm going to hell if I don't repent for my sins and stop touching myself
Blaire truly is a sad human being.
She really is
She's liked a kicked puppy in how she comes crawling back to the far-righters that insult her and demean her - except that on top of that she spends all her energies also insulting and demeaning trans people herself
Of course she won’t defend herself. Gotta keep the bag.
What bothers me is how she's willing to go sooooo beyond the lowest point to keep that 1 Birkin they're willing to throw her way while misgendering her.
like a beaten puppy doesn't even begin to describe this
She won’t lose money. Her base isn’t Laur-Whoren. Her base is more centrist & not this far right imo. But she leads her base down this path if she keeps this up. Blaire Is a definite dummy, and sell out. Clip 1:28:03 and send it to her dumb ass.
and the bag is big.
She sold her dignity and can't buy it back.
I have defended vaush on the twitter so many times but I really can't take his side anymore. His attack on wrist watches is the last straw I am official anti-vaush now.
Lmao
The disrespect against Wrist-watches can't be tolerated
Wrist vaushes
i was so offended, I love my wrist watch! I have an unhealthy emotional bond to it, it makes me feel safe and like I'm in control of my day and I'll never trust my phone like I trust my wrist watch. my baby. :(
Its time to cancel
Karlyn: Generally sane
Blaire: Suffering, drinking watar to cope
Lauren: White woman jumpscare
John: White man jumpscare
Karyln though that hitler goes to heaven because Jewish people chose to be oppresed
John is more like that kid with the glasses off of the polar express.
Karlyn has so many dumb takes but goddamn she killed lauren here
You can see the life leave Blair's eyes.
Blair and Karlyn can be annoying at times.
But Specs and Bimbo are just insufferable.
She’s not a bimbo, she doesn’t have the right to that title
Do not use bimbo to describe this dumpster fire, that is just mean to bimbos.
She really hates herself...
Also, you go blonde woman, throw every bigoted trope at your opponent in the hopes that they’ll get too confused about where to start...
@Lia's Place on one had I understand her, I understand why she wants to side with these people in hope that they will accept her and I truly feel sorry for her, but in the process she’s throwing everyone else under the bus and there’s simply no excuse for that... they will never accept her, they’re just using her...
@Lia's Place for a moment there, I almost did. I almost felt sorry for her but then I remember what Blaire espoused for the last 5 years.
Fun fact
In her world she wouldnt have any rights
@@anonlvl1957 well, as daddy said, she’s trying to be the last one in line to the camps...
@@walterl322 TRUE
But i meant that about tha blonde bitch
Like is she aware that she would be next in line
After trans,gays,blacks,
Why is Lauren even allowed to be there??
She promotes traditional, religious, hierarchal conservatism... yet...
She's a woman who ran for office... a woman who sought to have authority over men...
Why doesn't Doyle call this out? Why is she trying to influence anything??
That's not my politics; that's HER politics!
Exactly
That's what bothers me about conservative women like this. They want to reap the benefits of feminism for power but speak against it. If the blonde lady truly believed her ideology, she would stay in the kitchen.
Don’t forget she doesn’t have a husband or children. She really is failing to fulfill “a woman’s role”.
See: Phyllis Schlafly.
It's one of the oldest grifts there is.
@@mackenziegoodwin459
Phyllis married when she was in her 20s and never ran for office.
John Doyle is the exact type of staunch conservative online persona who likes being tied down and pegged in private and needlessly hates himself for it.
Lauren to Blaire: “The best thing you can do for us is grow out moustache and tell people not to live like you?”
Blaire in a moment of self-reflection: “Are we the baddies?”
Always been
She knows they are, she just want their money
@@milico2935 I think deep down she actually feels guilty, but she's to hard-headed to back down as this is what she chose and gives her a lot of money
"self reflection" good one
I would pay GOOD MONEY to see Vaush debate that THING.... that Blond “Wife from Handmaid’s Tale” THING....
yeah but instead of a debate it's a fist fight
@@TM-qt2ze I wouldn’t hit a woman........
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UNLESS SHE PISSED ME OFF. 🥳
I’m sorry but what’s the fucking point? Entertainment?
@@kx7500 vaush demolishing her and demonstrating fascism bad
@@kx7500 yes
Amazing to see someone genuinely affected by "I'm sorry I have a husband and you don't." Like I'm so used to that being such a nothing comment but it really touched a nerve with her lol
When you put your entire worth as a man/woman based on the sole Merit of you being able to fill some toxic gender role, then an insult like that is really going to get to you. It's the same reasons why inceIs get so mad at it
Honestly I wouldn’t be insulted by that at all. Lol I would just be like... okay?
@@TheSlipperyNUwUdle Yeah, that'd be like saying "Lol I have a dog and you have cats."
".... And? At least cats can purr and cure depression for a bit. Dogs just dribble on you. So do some cats but that's a minority at least."
Lauren is just mad that Blair is prettier than her
Incels must stop saying "you're jealous" when you'll disagree with a women.
Blaire White:
Also Blaire White: Well well well, if it isn't the consequences of my own actions
Its so sad that she tries this hard to fit in with conservatives even though they still call her a man. Smh
I'd normally make a "leopards ate my face" joke, but when she said that shit to Blaire, it genuinely hurt. I genuinely hope she's doing alright.
I don't 😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎
I’m a little torn between saying this is just Karma biting her and feeling bad on a human level. Like she’s trash but jeez, that was painful to watch
@@simonlee4504 same I appreciate peoples
Empathy but this is the natural conclusion of her own transphobic rhetoric (one example is Blair literally has made dozens of videos about Jessica Yaniv the “transgender predator”), guarantee you the blonde is a nazi
@@someonerandom8552 I’m the same way, Blaire has no respect whatsoever for trans people nor does she advocate for them. I wouldn’t make the claim she’s a transphobic but at the same time she demeans trans people constantly. But on the other hand no one deserves to be disrespected and demeaned as she did.
But then again she shouldn’t take that woman serious just as no one else should.
@@hochmeisterr Are you a bot?
Just gonna say it, Karlyn looks exactly like the caricature conservatives like to use to mock progressive lesbians
I actually had to pause the beginning of this video .... Jesus Christ. I never thought I would feel this sorry for Blaire. She tries to come off confident, but when that woman told her to grow a mustache you can just hear it in her voice that her comment cut deep into what little self esteem she has. I know that she's done considerable harm to the trans community, and has legitimized a lot of transphobia by capitulating to right wing talking points, but I still can not help but feel bad for her. I can't imagine how it must feel to have so little self esteem that you'd delegitimize your own community to gain social acceptance from people who ultimately view you as a defective person. I like to think maybe one day she will find some self esteem and stop being a reactionary. She could be such a great advocate for trans people. Sigh
that's kind of the Blaire story though, trying to paint herself as confident and better than other trans people while also not even being appreciated by the right. Remember that conversation she had with Candace Owens back in the day too. The only way she has of having some self esteem is to feel superior to other trans people because she herself believes she's not valid.
@@MadderCommotion That's honestly heartbreaking, her political views may not be valid, but her identity absolutely is.
She's a product of her social environment. She talked in a video about how no one in her family (even her gay uncle) didn't accept her as a woman. I think it triggered something in her what makes her seek acceptance from those who will never give it to her.
how does that make sense when most of her audience are right wing too? a lot of whom are also lgbt
@@rubyluisa1756 She didn't defend transgender people at all in this debate, has a very narrow view of acceptable transness (firing ad-hominem at transgender people she doesn't like and don't pass), and has willfully lied multiple times about other lgbtq people to pander to the right (for instance that bodybuilder transwoman, dunno what her name is).
I don't get why Blaire is trying so hard to pander to people who would treat her as something less than human if they were to gain power.
You don't even need to add that "if they were to gain power" They already treated her like something less than human in this debate.
Because she agrees with them on every other issue besides transsexuality.
You can't believe in "Just" transexuality,the freedom of transexuals comes with the inherent ascribing of personal personal freedom to everyone and that just can be achieved in a socio-liberal
Society and its that these people are inherent against
Her rethoric and believes Just point tô onde conclusion
@@zant2146 It is true that on Blaire's political compass test, they apparently lied about the results and that they were actually in the Lib Left quadrant. But still, it seems like Blaire is just reacting against the far left when it comes to trans issues. They may agree with the left more on some issues, but at least on trans issues, they believe that the left has gone too far. So they identify with the right since that's the only other option in America. Maybe Blaire is just a centrist and doesn't know where to go, only that they don't like how the left handles trans issues.
@@greywolf7577 Or, maybe she realized this was a great grift and has made a lot of money milking the gullible. The SJW hysteria was manufactured.
I love how she specifies which working class, the "white" one, LMAO, this couldn't get any better.
Keep crying, in-group preference/bias is a well established concept in the social sciences and all groups have a healthy ingroup preference/bias, except 1, White leftists who have grown accustomed to an outgroup bias/preference. Whites show the least racial and ethnic bias out of all groups, and that needs to change. White people are beggining to play identity politics again.
@@kingofracism Username checks out
@@nessie7306 thank you
@@kingofracism White nationalist but 127 comments of vaush videos lmao L
Blair was literally dissociating because of how much trauma she’s being put through and she won’t defend herself girl needs some help oml
after trying so hard to be acceptable by the republican she got told to grow a mustache instead. if i were her i'd cry myself before even say a word to defend myself. blaire looks like she was about to cry
she def needs therapy so she can realise that no matter how hard she tries those altright just hate her by default
@@blepblep7245 I don’t think she’s ever denied that though, her father’s side of the family completely disowned her :/
People shit on her so much but I really don’t think she’s that bad. People accuse her of lying but i legit think she’s just come across bad sources and not done her research properly. She’s sold out a bit recently but she seems like a genuine and sweet human being.
@@aero3318 she doesnt seem bad. idk what's actually happening in her head, but the way i see it she seems like she just wants to be accepted, and just go and do everything she thinks would get her there without thinking abt the cost (like for example calling other trans ppl cringe and laugh at them). but imo she needs to realise that some group of people are never going to accept her, and that's not her or any other trans ppl's fault, it's just that some people are THAT judgemental and insensitive.
@@blepblep7245 yeah I agree with you there. While I also find some trans people cringe I wouldn’t milk them for views and likes when they’re likely still figuring themselves out.
You can see Blaires soul being crushed throughout the entire interview. Hope that money is worth it.
For people who advocate for freedom they sure as hell like limiting others Freedom.
What freedoms? You heard them, there's no such thing as personal freedoms because everyone affects society. :|
@@bigdog91paper Yeah your right, can’t argue against that outstanding logic.
No freedoms for them not for anyone else to doesn't agree to my religion and politics. These people are disgusting.
No man fights their own freedom. _At best,_ they fight the freedom of others.
- K. Marx
Freedom is a European concept
The fact that Borysenko is the most sane person on this panel is _terrifying_
Lmao so true
You made me laugh so hard! Hardest laugh I've had in years
The sad part is, that Borysenko being the most sane person on this panel, isn't that high a bar to get over.
Because no matter how "sane" she appears here, _she will probably still vote along the same lines as the Nazi wannabe duo(Doyle, Witzke) here in the end_ .
I really despise Blaire, but everytime she got verbally abused I felt bad for her, I kinda wanted to be there and protect her.
It's sad to watch, I know how much transphobia hurts and she's probably hiding a lot of pain there.
I'd call it karma for betraying the trans community.
@@tysondennis1016 even if shes a conservative, I dont believe anyone deserves transphobia
I am assuming you are trans because of your pfp. Lol why would you protect or feel bad for someone who advocates to devalue your own self worth and teaches cognitive dissonance. That's weak. This is what she is asking for, and i hope she gets more. She has absolutely no spine, and she is a backstabbing coward.
@@wesleythomas7705 it's probably bc transphobia hurt this person (who got the trans flag pfp), so they can kinda feel what blaire white might feel, and then feel bad.
@@blepblep7245 yeah I agree
Balirs grift is getting to the point where it might actually kill her
Sad but true!! Very sad!
Does she still think optics will stop them?
She doesn’t care at this point, she hates herself a ton! I wouldn’t be surprised if Blair has attempted to harm herself
"WHY WON'T BLAIRE DEFEND HERSELF?" - Because she hate hereself.
I think it worked tactically in the debate
She just looks really fucking sad
No sympathy from me.
High time she learned that conservatives are not her friends.
The blonde lady is evil and rude and disgusting. The way she was looking into the screen when she was like “tell them not to live like you” I got GENUINELY angry