Totally agree with everything you've stated. Before purchasing my S6, I hung out in the Facebook community and that's ultimately what sold me. What these cameras offer for the price point is just unbelievable.
Very very very well said. Please remember that the RED started out as a nobody too. The Zcam I bought is not the Zcam I have today. So many updates that made my camera even better than when I bought it. Good video Josh.
Totally agree with you. I have always been a Canon guy, and last year I decided to move from my 1DXM2 that was my main for client work and get into a Cinema camera. I of course was gravitating towards the C200 and the day before I was making my purchase I saw a video on the Z Cam, and spent a few weeks reading on it. I decided to buy the F6 and could not be happier with my purchase. Sure there are some things I would have liked to have, but this thing is a beast and the ability I have to rig it how I like it for each shoot is amazing.
I shot my last video on my zcam s6 it was exposed right I used diffuser to block the sun and people keep saying is that the red you filmed that on I just laughed... when you know what your doing you can make just about any camera look good. These days everyone just want the camera to do everything for them and yet still want to be called film makers or cinematographer. Lol. Great viid.
It's a good point that you make about getting hired based on ur talent and skills, not what gear you got and hoping it'll attract clients. That's where a lot of content producers go broke within their first year.
One thing I can think of is that the Komodo is the cheapest cinema camera with a global shutter, although niche as hell for most individuals and production companies. A global shutter will give you a better image in slow-mo situations, no flickering and any sort of rolling shutter issues you will have, filming helicopters, bicycle spokes, quick pans. That is really appealing and I wish more prosumer options would implement global shutters!
Appreciate the videos and congrats on the major moves! Thinking about the Z Cam E2 S6 only because of the 4K 120 for product work that I do and it won't require a full rig! Just a battery, lens, and monitor. We'll see!
I went from Canon to Sony for film, struggled with getting exactly what I wanted out of the camera and then switched to Z-Cam after researching for a long time. You'll never look back.
I went with the Full Frame E2-F6 over the Komodo and I haven't looked back for a second. As badass as it is to say you own a RED, the Z CAM's are so versatile, with a beautiful color science and at an amazing range of pricing. I highly preach for Z CAM, I can careless if I sound like a fan boy haha.
I heard on another channel that there is no discernible difference to the human eye between 422 and 4444, love to see a side by side from the venice to the one of there 422 consumer cams, would have to be Vimeo probably or on file probably.
My Arri Alexa does ProRes 422 and 4444 and there is huge difference when you have to grade. The power in Alexa is the sensor that is a true 16 but color dual gain architecture
It does looks like a pretty interesting camera, but $2k for 16bit, r3d and the support of a super established company is worth it in my opinion. The brand does make clients feel safer most of the time and if you’re building a production company that will grow then it makes sense to go with a bigger camera manufacturer. I agree with you that is a great camera but probably is aimed to different users compared to RED.
Yep. You know you can rig up a normal ssd external hardrive, from Amazon for like $60 along that cable into a type c. I’ve saved $100’s on those cfast cards. Im probably the only one that does this lol
In before the Komodo fanboys flood the comments. This whole fanboy culture is getting obnoxious so I'm hoping we get away from that but I think it's going to get worse before it gets better. But for real, I'm glad that you're going all in with the Z Cam. It's underrated and joked on a lot but it's hanging with the big boys.
I hear that haha and totally not knocking Red. It's a great system - it's just not for me. I am too tired of the battle of cameras - there are a lot on the market, just pick what works for you and move on haha. Master it rather than yapping. But yeah man ! I'm all in and I'm excited to see what e3 will have but these cameras will last for sure.
The cost of owning Z Cam S6 is around 3 grand (assuming you already have a lens from the previous system), Komodo is around 10! That is why they have to criticize Z Cam and point out all possible flaws and shortcomings in order to keep customers.
I got an S6 recently, still testing out. It's all good so far. I'm basically coming from an A6300. I'm regretting a bit simply because of the whole brand recognition thing 😨
@@AveryCaudill exactly. I was just meaning that it's very dependant on how often you shoot, and within which niche of the industry. Best to consider these things before spending money.
RED's raw is 16 bit linear. The 12 bit raw flavors (BRAW, ZRAW, Pro Res Raw, etc.) are log--which makes them basically the same thing. (If not basically then much much closer than they sound.) Atomos talks about it w/r/t to Sony's 16 bit raw out and Pro Res Raw being 12 bit. All that is to say, I think you got nothing to worry about
any thoughts on s1h As now it can record Braw. The workflow and colour whole lot is Changed with that so my question is S1h better than the zcam or not
Hello Joshua! I will be working sound on a shoot where they will have a E2 S6 as the A-camera, and I am needing to know which adapter I need to purchase to allow timecode input? None of the dealers seem to be 100% sure, unfortunately.
@@joshuamartinstudios Thank you, I have many Tentacles, and TC slate, but what adapter to use to connect into the E2 S6? I have cables for the Tentacles for every other camera, but Z-Cam have their weird 4-pin connectors, and the dealers keep referring to the previous DB9 cable, which the S6 has not.
@@joshuamartinstudios Zcam is a beast, don't get me wrong, I met the CEO in Singapore, their customer service is GOLD, and that is something Kinefinity can't say sadly....
@@joshuamartinstudios I'm thinking on selling my Epic W, and I've been looking at other brands. I just realised that a Komodo body is heavier than Mavo LF body.... insane china cameras...
Totally agree with everything you've stated. Before purchasing my S6, I hung out in the Facebook community and that's ultimately what sold me. What these cameras offer for the price point is just unbelievable.
it's only R3D that keeps Red alive , but F6 - it is almost Alexa mini LF, good choice!
Very very very well said. Please remember that the RED started out as a nobody too. The Zcam I bought is not the Zcam I have today. So many updates that made my camera even better than when I bought it. Good video Josh.
Thanks for your support. We keep pushing.
Totally agree with you. I have always been a Canon guy, and last year I decided to move from my 1DXM2 that was my main for client work and get into a Cinema camera. I of course was gravitating towards the C200 and the day before I was making my purchase I saw a video on the Z Cam, and spent a few weeks reading on it. I decided to buy the F6 and could not be happier with my purchase. Sure there are some things I would have liked to have, but this thing is a beast and the ability I have to rig it how I like it for each shoot is amazing.
I shot my last video on my zcam s6 it was exposed right I used diffuser to block the sun and people keep saying is that the red you filmed that on I just laughed... when you know what your doing you can make just about any camera look good. These days everyone just want the camera to do everything for them and yet still want to be called film makers or cinematographer. Lol. Great viid.
Great video Joshua! I never knew much about the Z cam so I learned a lot about them today!!! 😁
It's a good point that you make about getting hired based on ur talent and skills, not what gear you got and hoping it'll attract clients. That's where a lot of content producers go broke within their first year.
Straight away the intro is so relatable haha, I now no longer have a living room
One thing I can think of is that the Komodo is the cheapest cinema camera with a global shutter, although niche as hell for most individuals and production companies. A global shutter will give you a better image in slow-mo situations, no flickering and any sort of rolling shutter issues you will have, filming helicopters, bicycle spokes, quick pans. That is really appealing and I wish more prosumer options would implement global shutters!
Great point!
Appreciate the videos and congrats on the major moves! Thinking about the Z Cam E2 S6 only because of the 4K 120 for product work that I do and it won't require a full rig! Just a battery, lens, and monitor. We'll see!
Yeah bro! It's a simple setup! Plug and play lol nothing to it
Great info in plain talk. In your workflow, have you produced a video outlining the dif between the S6 v F6?
I never really looked into the ZCAM. I’ll check it out now. Thanks!
Yeah bro! Look into it! Love this system
I went from Canon to Sony for film, struggled with getting exactly what I wanted out of the camera and then switched to Z-Cam after researching for a long time. You'll never look back.
I went with the Full Frame E2-F6 over the Komodo and I haven't looked back for a second. As badass as it is to say you own a RED, the Z CAM's are so versatile, with a beautiful color science and at an amazing range of pricing. I highly preach for Z CAM, I can careless if I sound like a fan boy haha.
@@varianography i totally agree
There's only one word that's describes Zcam.. versatility. Only thing it's missing is Prores 4444.
I totally agree
I heard on another channel that there is no discernible difference to the human eye between 422 and 4444, love to see a side by side from the venice to the one of there 422 consumer cams, would have to be Vimeo probably or on file probably.
@@joshuamartinstudios yo I met u in that parking lot with my friend!
@@WhoIsZixpzy ayyyeee what's up man!
My Arri Alexa does ProRes 422 and 4444 and there is huge difference when you have to grade. The power in Alexa is the sensor that is a true 16 but color dual gain architecture
It does looks like a pretty interesting camera, but $2k for 16bit, r3d and the support of a super established company is worth it in my opinion. The brand does make clients feel safer most of the time and if you’re building a production company that will grow then it makes sense to go with a bigger camera manufacturer.
I agree with you that is a great camera but probably is aimed to different users compared to RED.
Komodo is 6K though.
Almost got into Z Cam but just yesterday they bump their price up off their M4 to $2000. Im waiting on my GH6 now...
Yep. You know you can rig up a normal ssd external hardrive, from Amazon for like $60 along that cable into a type c. I’ve saved $100’s on those cfast cards. Im probably the only one that does this lol
hey bro this sounds like an awesome hack!
In before the Komodo fanboys flood the comments. This whole fanboy culture is getting obnoxious so I'm hoping we get away from that but I think it's going to get worse before it gets better. But for real, I'm glad that you're going all in with the Z Cam. It's underrated and joked on a lot but it's hanging with the big boys.
I hear that haha and totally not knocking Red. It's a great system - it's just not for me. I am too tired of the battle of cameras - there are a lot on the market, just pick what works for you and move on haha. Master it rather than yapping.
But yeah man ! I'm all in and I'm excited to see what e3 will have but these cameras will last for sure.
@@joshuamartinstudios I feel the exact same way man! "Master it rather than yapping" should be 2021's battle cry :D
The cost of owning Z Cam S6 is around 3 grand (assuming you already have a lens from the previous system), Komodo is around 10! That is why they have to criticize Z Cam and point out all possible flaws and shortcomings in order to keep customers.
Upgraded to the s6 from the GH5S, I brought the M4 at first, wasn't happy with the MFT look. Super 35mm style is very pleasing to the eye.
glad i found this video z cam is def the way to go
I got an S6 recently, still testing out. It's all good so far. I'm basically coming from an A6300. I'm regretting a bit simply because of the whole brand recognition thing 😨
@I Am JTEK that's not always true. If you're being hired by producers - they often hire based on specific kit.
@@HendrikusDeVaan but if you need a specific kit you can always rent it:) many dps do
@@AveryCaudill exactly. I was just meaning that it's very dependant on how often you shoot, and within which niche of the industry. Best to consider these things before spending money.
RED's raw is 16 bit linear. The 12 bit raw flavors (BRAW, ZRAW, Pro Res Raw, etc.) are log--which makes them basically the same thing. (If not basically then much much closer than they sound.) Atomos talks about it w/r/t to Sony's 16 bit raw out and Pro Res Raw being 12 bit. All that is to say, I think you got nothing to worry about
I hear ya! Not worried at all.
Red is 16 bit color deep, z cam is 10 bit color deep. Linear or log is another thing about how file are compressed and saved
any thoughts on s1h As now it can record Braw.
The workflow and colour whole lot is Changed with that so my question is S1h better than the zcam or not
any camera is good nowadays. It's really how you use it and what workflow you choose to use.
Hi thanks for your videos,.. do you by any chance know if M4 e2 does 120p 4k zRaw ??
Not sure, what does the site say?
Hello Joshua! I will be working sound on a shoot where they will have a E2 S6 as the A-camera, and I am needing to know which adapter I need to purchase to allow timecode input? None of the dealers seem to be 100% sure, unfortunately.
You best bet is probably tentacle sync, along with a clapper on set.
@@joshuamartinstudios Thank you, I have many Tentacles, and TC slate, but what adapter to use to connect into the E2 S6? I have cables for the Tentacles for every other camera, but Z-Cam have their weird 4-pin connectors, and the dealers keep referring to the previous DB9 cable, which the S6 has not.
yesssssiiiirrrr!!!
Doesn't the a7s3 already take 16-bit color externally?
No it's down converted to 12 bit with ProRes Raw
@@joshuamartinstudios Sony and their gimmicks. smh😒
Bro, Kinefinity allows you to change mounts.
Yep that is true
And canon and black magic ursa. But not at this price point. Which is a steal
@@joshuamartinstudios Zcam is a beast, don't get me wrong, I met the CEO in Singapore, their customer service is GOLD, and that is something Kinefinity can't say sadly....
I know it’s so sad. I really like what kinefinity is doing with the edge. But the CS needs work
@@joshuamartinstudios I'm thinking on selling my Epic W, and I've been looking at other brands. I just realised that a Komodo body is heavier than Mavo LF body.... insane china cameras...
countdown to... "Why I'm selling my cameras for the Sony FX3"
jk many good points here!
LOL it'll be more like "why I added the fx3 to my workflow"
More like, "why I sold my FX3 for the Panasonic S5" true story xDDD
do you feel the same way in 2/2022
Yes
@@joshuamartinstudios i am thinking of ordering the f6 how dose your editing station handle the footage if you don't mind me asking