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Guitar Pedals For Pedal Steel With Tim Marcus (Milkman Sound)
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- Опубліковано 7 лис 2018
- Pedal Steel is most known for country music, but today we're gonna explore how versatile it can be. I've invited my friend Tim Marcus creator of Milkman Sound to demonstrate how adding guitar pedals to the Pedal Steel can transform the instrument.
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3:36 Milkman The Amp 50-Watt Hybrid Guitar Amp Head Pedal
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3:38 Ibanez AD99 Analog Delay
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3:48 JHS Unicorn V2
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3:57 Mahoney Bosstone Fuzz
6:12 Boss MT-2 Metal Zone
8:16 Electro-Harmonix MEL9 Tape Replay Machine
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8:26 JHS Lucky Cat Delay
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Tim mentioned Sneaky Pete. Check out his work with the Flying Burrito Brothers (especially Gilded Palace of Sin). Not only is his playing superb, but he uses some great effects including some gnarly fuzz. "Christine's Tune" and "Wheels" immediately come to mind if you want shortcuts to the effects, but really I'd recommend getting the album. The cover is phenomenal as well. Cheers!
Link to the album on YT: ua-cam.com/video/P7_3ak3OmkM/v-deo.html
The solo,by Sneaky pete on Jackson Brownes version of "Take it easy" is mind bending w/ phaser...
Burrito brothers essentially used Sneaky Pete’s playing as the lead guitar.
1) It's nice to see someone using a Metal Zone non-ironically. 2) Anderson Ericson whole milk kicks ass!
I have to admit, the Metal Zone sounds great on a Pedal Steel.
Guess he put his pedal *through* the metal, huh.
To be kind - era swans has a lot of really great atmospheric pedal steel parts on them. That's where I first learned about the instrument tbh
Alright - here is a fun story. in Spring 2003 I was a music intern for SNL and helped the music coordinator manage the Dixie Chicks rehearsal and live process. Basically I was the kid that got all the backing musicians lunch and made sure they had their paperwork filled out. I was a loud brash guitar player more familiar with punk, classic rock and metal and really wasn't into country so I wasn't even paying attention to the slide guitar until the first rehearsal and Lloyd maines steps on what I discovered was a SANSAMP GT on the floor and produced this GOD-Like overdriven sound. it was like the sound of a giant semi-truck downshifting and passing at the same time - so deep and guttural. It changed my life because it was that sound that carried me into pedal distortion and overdrive - where previously I just played amp distortion. here is video of another time they played Sin Wagon on that same tour - which is the song he did this trick on. ua-cam.com/video/qLLg14q27vI/v-deo.html
6:26 "The Metal Zone is a shocker... sometimes" pure grace Josh ❤
Josh just drinking a half gallon of chocolate milk.
Milkman, baby!
yum
haha!
Josh, as usual you offer the most intelligent, fun, inspiring content on music and effects! I loved the univibe and wah tones the best. I play psg and this opened my eyes and ears. Thank you.
great performans, great to see and hear you play!!!!
Garcia is my favorite steel player. His work on American Beauty, Workingman’s Dead, NRPS, and Teach Your Children, The Wheel (Garcia solo) are amazing. I like it with really deep Fender Twin reverb and some echo/delay.
I used to be a king, laughing, eep hour etc
If you like the instrument keep diving.. even Jerry would have NEVER said he was a real steel player.. I mean he was jerry so he was musical on EVERYTHING but... wow.. if you like his playing keep looking as Jerry's playing was great but with a very basic vocab.. but great.
When you show up to you’re country gig with a metal zone on the pedal steel
what a cool episode :) love the humble little crumar synth in the background :)
Great Video guys!!!
This was amazing!!
This is the first time I am that captivated by Josh's playing. Great rhythm section!
Tim Marcus is so awesome. Submitted a question to the general dropbox on the milkman website when buying an amp thinking he would have some intern or shop buddy checking on those, and got a nice email back from the man himself. Truly a one-man operation, and a very humble and talented guy.
awesome sounds!
Greg Leisz, Greg Leisz, and more Greg Leisz! Greg plays on several albums with Bill Frisell, Ryan Adams, Beck, John Mayer, Lucinda Williams, and Ray Lamontagne's "Gossip in The Grain."
I saw Greg Leisz play live with Jackson Browne a couple of years ago. Greg can play anything! Regular guitar, lap steel, pedal steel, Weissenborn, he can do it all!
Love this! As a pedal steel player (who also plays Williams guitars and Milkman amps:) Tim has been my go to guy for advice when buying my steel and pairing it with just the right amp and fix.
He mentioned Greg Leisz who is my steel idol. That guy has played with Clapton, Joni Mitchell, Jackson Browne but then his steel play is all over newer records, my favorite was Bon Ivers self titled album. Steel all over it. Another steel hero of mine will always be Eric Heywood, he toured with Ray Lamontagne and I got the pleasure of listening to him and Greg live. 2 steels. Amazing!
this is awesome... Cheers from Brazil !
That was fun! I love Pretzel Logic. I've also recently discovered Larkin Poe who play blues with Megan Lowell on lap steel with a lot of pedals!
Great stuff!
UNIVOX BASS SPOTTED - and the super fuzz woot!!
Coolest episode yet Josh!!!!
I love my Milkman pedal amp 🥛 Tim is the man. Great episode nice playing lads!
Favorite episode to date!
Nice one guys! Get ahold of Buddy Emmons Live in Denver if you can. It's from '76 and he goes way into effects during the show then talks about the fx pedals he's using in a Q&A afterwards. He uses delays for a rhythmic multiplying thing, an MXR harmonizer, all kinds of stuff. Still sounds futuristic 40+ years later.
Hi Brett!
Love us some pedal steel. Great vid, nailed it.
Gotta admit- I saw the video title and thought, "This is gonna be lame". I was sooooooo wrong! Love this stuff. I never ever considered that steel guitar could be this cool. Thanks for expanding my mind a bit.
Thanks for watching!!!
Same thought process here Ted.
check out a band called "pink floyd"
Seeing Josh playing bass is so special
i remember hearing the opening to the eric clapton mtv unplugged version of running on faith and it was simple but i just fell in love with that sound and have always loved it since.
I have always loved the pedal steel - I really dug 'Dark side of the bitcoin' - Tim really nailed that Gilmour sound and style. That dude has some serious talent!
Bought my first JHS pedal last week. Thanks to your videos. Morning Glory.
Awesome! Thanks, and hope you love it!
Thank You For This!!!
I'm gonna need at least one of those as well. Thanks!
think hes talking about "It might be a one shot deal" on Waka/Jawaka. Such an amazing solo. Took me awhile to figure out I coudn't play it on a guitar
Nice jamming - something you don't see a lot of on this channel. Tim's a great pedal steel player, too.
Shout out for the Anderson Erickson whole milk!!!! That’s my life. I live in Des Moines, IA and that is hands down the best dairy in the nation!
Zappa-One Shot Deal. Thanks for reminding me of that, I haven’t heard it for 30 years!
Josh! Love the episode on pedal steel! I play the instrument myself. My favorite pedals: the sarno freeloader variable load/buffer. The pigtronix philosophers tone micro and the tighty Whitey for parallel compression (they are tied for top spot, ATM). For dirt I stack a sarno earth drive and a Durham mucho boosto both set very low. Delay is an MXR carbon copy bright. Reverb is a hardwire digital reverb (digitech).
I’d like to hear your thoughts on pigtronix pedals. I love the philosopher’s tone germanium on guitar, and their key master is pretty amazing. Also, I’ve loved every Durham pedal I’ve tried. Take care!
I forgot to mention how much I've loved the crazy lap steel work of Queens of the Stone Age. Loved all the pieces you guys played.
Josh, awesome episode! I’ve never been much of a steel player. But as a part time Lap Steel guy, I am big fan of fender reverb, might use a little blues driver mixed with a pedal you designed with your buddy Tim. The Milkman.
On another note, I met sneaky Pete in Northern KY years ago when he was playing in a band with Garth Hudson from the “Band” on keys called Burrito Deluxe. He was a really nice guy. Interesting note he did stop action work for “The Empire Strikes Back” when he was not doing as much with music. He told me he only ever used 1 pedal steel in his whole career.
All the jams were killer!
Great talents, all!
so nuts! I've wanted to get into steel guitar for months now.
Do it!
Effing amazing. I'm a Dobro convert and play electric lap steel as well. This was inspiring. I'm having trouble recruiting for a steel-fronted instrumental band. This might help.
John Neff in his time with Drive By Truckers. Incredible slide player.
Anything with Speedy West, especially if Jimmy Bryant is on the record. :-)
*Ya'll McCartney*! This is some fantastic programming (once again), guys! Love the milk container cameos in every frame.
I love the old Slim Whitman catalog for pedal steel X yodeling = WIN
HEY JHS! 2:50 that vibe sound from the jhs pedal is soooooo thick and chewy very very nice!!!! i know this was not an add for that pedal BUT i am going to buy one!
Nice! Thanks!!
As a keyboard player, I was trying to focus to see which ones are in the background. I also dabble in lap steel with an old copper colored Harmony with a weird looking stainless steel nut that is circular and notched for the strings
Red Sparowes did a pretty good job sneaking pedal steel into instrumental metal.
Milkman amps are now the first thing I think of when lap steel comes up. Perfect
David Gilmour on One of These Days: some of my favorite steel guitar. Oh my yes. Also a bunch of the tracks on I, Flathead by Ry Cooder.
I can’t get over how full it makes the band it’s like he is the Edge of slide. Very cool. I need some chocolate milk now
love the steel guitar on Queens of the Stone Age records, tasty and adding so much texture. Troy Van Leeuwen and Dave Catching in the early days.
amazing! i also got into steel guitar in NY when i lived there 10+ years ago. And i also got into it from Bob Hoffnar. He was my first teacher and he helped me find and by a Rains double neck steel guitar. I bought it from Gary Carpenter directly. Still have it and love it. I mainly make ambient music with it. Susan Alcorn is an amazing experimental steel guitar player that i highly recommend checking out. As well as Bob - his music is amazing!
and obviously Daniel Lanois is a genius. He's last album is all steel and slide.
My best memory of hearing a pedal steel guitar out of country was in ATV Off-road Fury 3 with Robert Randolph and the Family Band in the track Squeeze.
OMG totally!!!!!
Great game
I see your milk jug of choice is Anderson-Erickson; I live in Iowa and the home town of Anderson Erickson Dairy ....so Bravo to you!!! As a pedal steel guitar player, I use reverb(BossRV-6), chorus(Boss), delay(Roland DE7), a resonator simulator pedal, and a Harmonist(Boss) but not very often. Attached to the guitar is a Goodrich Steel Driver which is an impedance matching box that also has a killer distortion in it. Thanks for doing something for us steel players!!!!!!!!
Looking forward to getting home watching the end of this video ,always something I was interested in. Sneaky Pete in the Flying Burrito Brother's has that solo with fuzz it's amazing but the traditional guys hated it .
All time favorite pedal steel song is "Squeeze" by Robert Randolph and the Family Band. Just an absolute jam. That man changed my opinion of the pedal steel forever
Robert Randolph and the Family Band blew me away, too. As good as Tim Marcus' plays, the song titles may steal the show.
Josh, I am a Sacred Steel Guitar player in Huntsville, AL...I must say I appreciate the exposure...Dwight
Hugely underrated episode.
Peter Gilmour & Steve Howe had some fantastic lap/pedal steel guitar stuff during the early parts of Pink Floyd & Yes.
Also, "Y'all McCartney" was brilliant. Would definitely jam that on Spotify.
Peter's brother David wasn't too bad either.
Mario Driessen SAVAGE.
Wow. I just realized a massive typo. That should've been David Gilmour. I guess I get several points for 0 double checking >_>
Can’t talk about steel guitar without talking about Speedy West! I highly recommend his stuff with Jimmy Bryant. Also Nels Cline has been know to play some out there lap steel.
That "Ya'll McCartney" section I swear sounded like it could be something off the Flaming Lips album "The Soft Bulletin" (I think that's the album name). Either way - its very close to the sound. I think the similar sound is right there on the first track of that album. Really cool to see these demonstrations. The sounds of pedal steel, lap steel and then just slide period have to be my favorite guitar and guitar-esque sounds. I'm an off and on country fan, but I listen to all genres of music and I think pedal steel guitar (or the other variants) can make music of any genre more expressive or heart-tuggingly beautiful. Good stuff. :-)
LOve it all ! MOre More More and Come on ! Bring on the Steel Guitar ! Lets Go ! Thats stuff is Wicked!
True, pedal steel has been on a bunch of top 40 and classic rock since the 70's, not just country. Interesting ideas with the pedals in this video. I could see a pedal steel, bass and drum trio playing in the prog/jam band scene.
Actually does anyone know of a band like that? I'd like to check them out.
The sound on “Dark Side” reminds me of Buddy Cage’s sound on Meet Me in the Morning, which I always assumed was his steel through a Rat. Must have been a fuzz of some sort.
dark side of the moon do you mean
Breathe in the air
My favourite track with pedalsteel is probably 3‘s and 7‘s by Queens of the Stone Age.
That lead riff is so glorious!
Daniel Lanois is a master at pedal steel, listen to his album Belladonna, just magnificient.
The Nash sounds great! Also the outro! I'd buy that record.
Gotta check out the flat edge on regular steel bars Ralph Mooney used. Makes a sitar like sound, very cool.
One of the best videos yet! I really enjoy the diversity you explore with your channel. 👊🏼
First, you promised my mind would be blown, and it was. The best song was the intro one and “Dark side of the bitcoin”! As a fairly new steeler, I’m just starting to experiment and mostly just with my current guitar pedals. I was kind of surprised he didn’t talk about volume since that is the standard for pedal steel. I have the boss RV-5 which gets great spring reverb for traditional steel sounds, but also cool shimmery sounds with the modulate setting. I also use the el capistan which similarly can be tamed or can be wild tape echo with looping.
I really loved the fuzz sound and I liked the univibe sound! I’ll have to try those out in the near future! I was most excited to see Tim and the new milkman the amp because I’m saving up for that currently! Also, Josh - id love to try the VCR on pedal steel and electric if you still ever feel like getting generous with sending that!
Also, that was a lot of exclamation points but clearly I’m very excited. I wish I would’ve known more about JHS the last time I was in Kansas City... next time I’ll stop by!
Russ Freeman did some cool pedal steel work with Rippingtons....
Great episode.
I built a lap steel guitar, because I wanted the growl and sustain--LOVE the way it sounds. I'd love to get a pedal steel...heck, maybe I'll build one! KD Lang's producer Ben Mink turned me onto what an ambient pedal steel can sound like. Listen to KD Lang's album Ingenue. Stereo analog chorus sounds awesome with a lap or pedal steel guitar.
that Ibanez delay looks awesome...I love those old, massive pedals even though they're impractical as far as the space they take up.
Second David Gilmour. The pedal steel on 'Great Gig in the Sky' makes the song. And another vote for Daniel Lanois. (great producer also)
so rad. I just bought a Mullen Discovery E9.
Thanks for making this video and promoting use of pedal steel that breaks the stereotypical mold. Pedal steel guitar is most recognizable when it is used in its traditional setting in Hawaiian or Country music, but it has so many other applications. After playing guitar for about 15 years I finally made the plunge into the world of pedal steel. I've been there for about 10 years now, and every time I sit down at the instrument I find new ways to use it in all kinds of music. Here is my rig: Sierra Timberwolf pedal steel guitar -> Lovepedal Tone Bender -> Origin Slide Rig -> Ernie Ball MVP -> TC Polytune Mini (outside of signal path) -> Hudson Electronics Broadcast -> Wampler Tumnus mini -> TC Viscous Vibe -> Keeley Memphis Sun -> TC Hall of Fame Reverb -> Supro Dual Tone (I have a footswitch for the amp's tremolo). I use an E-Bow on the steel sometimes, too. Pretty much every steel player uses a volume pedal and reverb or a delay, but I find that fuzzes, overdrives, boosts, compressors, tremolos, phasers/flangers/vibes, and synthesizers can all work well with the pedal steel. I wish there were more pedal steel players talking about how they use effects with the instrument, and I appreciate what JHS and Milkman are doing to promote pedal steel in all genres of music.
Also check out Carl Broemel (of My Morning Jacket) for an example of a guitarist who plays both six-string guitar and pedal steel. He uses a bunch of effects for both and he sounds great.
Double dip as the old guys in AA use to say. Got home finished listening in my truck . Ironic Sneaky Pete + the same solo I mentioned was mentioned. Ok so you know what (Edit-we) to I want, I don't have a b bender tele but did briefly. Invent it the BG bender pedal for guitar . Like a wah wah but way smaller with a small sweep for B + G bends or any string I guess could bend .I know you can do it + I want the - 1st one.
I've always loved the Pedal Steel and tried emulate it when playing slide.
But there's nothing like the real thing and Tim is the real thing.
My favorite effect for the pedal steel, all of them, for real. In the right hands they all work.
There is a Trailer Park Boys Chrismas episode that features the pedal steel,
And It so captivating, I'll find out who it is and edit my post.
Thanks Josh and Tim for such a cool segment
Trailer Park Boys pedal steel players name is John Johncampbelljohn
Great steel guitar on CAKE tracks too. Greg Vincent is his name. "Mexico" comes to mind.
Check out Four Giants of Swing with Joe Venuti, Jethro Burns, Curly Chalker on steel, and Eldon Shamblin.
Love this! I play lap stell, hope to graduate to pedal someday. I love the pulp n peel on steel!
oh man we should have tried that! I like using a compressor *before* the volume pedal on days where my right hand refuses to cooperate :)
milkmansound yes!
Awesomeness!
I love running steel through the warped vinyl.
Man, steel guitar. Love it. My grandpa modded them back in the day. Gave me one before he passed but it was stolen a couple years ago! The mel9 is insane! Sounds so ballad-ish. And the unicorn on a steel! Sounded so good. Fresh sounds coming out of the pedal steel would make my grandpa smile.
Oh no! That's terrible, man :(
JHS Pedals I’ll get another one eventually and get back on the seat and have some fun with pedals now too. Awesome topic to tackle for your vlog!
Way to be! I love that you're so positive :)
Amazing
"Hot Milk" by far the best track! I'm sure after being posted up for a year you're probably not going to see this but one of my favorite "modern" albums with a pedal steel is "Plays One Sound and Others" by the band Knife in the Water.
When i started learning to play steel I used a Big Muff, FOX fuzz wah, Maestro 3 button phase shifter, moved away from all that for a long time as i became a player. Sneaky, Buddy Cage, & Rusty Young were influential. Now years later it’s an overdrive dejour, auto wah , RESO sim, and a Lexicon for all time based EFX, delays, rotary, chorus, phase, flange etc.
There are some great and creative players out here today but to quote Herbie Wallace in 1985 , “ everyone wants to play like Buddy Emmons” and it’s still true.
Also, I noticed the various milk containers too. Very cool
Love a good phaser on steel guitar.
This blew my mind, especially the "Y'all McCarteny" with the EH Mel pedal. If you like steel guitar, check out Friends of Dean Martinez - lots of great steel guitar but not a country/western song anywhere.
I play my Sho-Bud pedal steel through a Keeley/JHS Steak N Eggs all the time. Pretty much every guitar needs to be played through that pedal though...
My two big tricks on pedal steel are chorus and reverb (or slapback delay). Again, I think all guitars can benefit from a bit of those two a lot of the time, but a pedal steel is so sonically complex that giving it some extra breathing room is really nice. But here’s the trick - go digital! A TC Electronic Gravy is a killer digital chorus, I love the Tri-Chorus sound. I don’t really like a modulated delay or reverb with pedal steel, so I go with my trusty Dan-Echo (the greatest delay pedal ever, I don’t care what anyone says) and Keeley Aura Reverb. I have never really noticed digital artifacts, but I love the clean headroom of digital effects for pedal steel. If you want saturation in your pedal steel signal, that’s awesome, but I don’t really like my non-drive effects clipping my pedal steel signal, there’s just too much dynamics and harmonics that get lost and smushy.
One last thing - fuzz. Just throw any fuzz in your line and see what works. If I wanna get weird, I’ll use a Keeley Sfocato, and the Keeley Psi is really gnarly on pedal steel, especially with the tone down and gain up, it gets all muffled and weird. I really like my Lovepedal (or it could be Hermida Audio?) Dover Drive with the gain up for pedal steel.
I always thought pedal steel (or lap steel) was only used in country music and it didn't even occur to me that I was listening to it all the time in many of the Pink Floyd songs I love! I even hear it in a song called Lunatic Fringe by Red Rider, being played by Ken Greer. It's definitely a cool instrument and if I had say 15-20 more hours in each day I would love to learn how to play it (along with all the other things I'm trying to learn)!
Earthquaker's Spatial Delivery (specifically sample & hold mode) sounds incredible on pedal steel. Anything Earthquaker works, really!
Hey Josh .. I have been into slide & pedal steel since Dark side of the Moon & Lowell George .. Robert Randolph .. of course .. jerry Donahue ? plays with Vince Gill & Alison Krauss union station .. Brad Paisley said about Alison if he ever gets to Heaven he expects the angels to sing like her .. so true .. But you know somepeople think everything happens for a reason .. I'm not so sure but I try to find the positive when I can .. so when I got a skin condition that meant I couldnt play gtr & I started getting arthritis .. I learned to play keyboards & started working on my slide .. a good pedal steel is beyond my budget for now .. but this is why I have been ragging on you about making a decent wah & volume pedal .. & why so far in the Jhs range it would be the Milkman b4 the Ryan Adams .. for me .. Although I see now that your new bigger colorsound thingy that is like a big mixing desk one channel .. D.i. & again would take me half a years pension to get two .. But I do love real controls & not menus etc .. Anyhow Y'all McCartney .. lol .. but I just loved that vintage guitar you played at the start.. Dark tobacco burst .. looked like an Epiphone ? .. thats my style .. B4 I go if you haven't heard of " Larkin Poe " .. give them a listen .. two sisters from the bluegrass circuit .. seriously good blues & slide Americana .. & not hard on the eyes to look at either .. lol .. The story goes they jumped up to sing along with Elvis Costello .. not knowing he was famous & the next thing they were on tour with his Band .. Bye Y'all .. from the Deep woods of ye olde Englande ..