How to do permaculture when your neighbors don't: Food Forest abundance garden tour 2020 Part 2
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- Опубліковано 12 вер 2024
- 11 years of Food Foresting: how to be a good neighbor when your neighbors don’t do Permaculture. Tour the side yard and property line and learn about the plants I grow here and thoughts on how to garden next to folks who don’t know about permaculture and who use pesticides and herbicides.
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Wow, finally someone on a typical lot. Difference between half acre and quarter is huge. Seems like everyone is on over a half, or in a tropical region where anything grows.
Thank you for addressing the topic of "neighbours"! Sadly, here in the U.K., we still seem to have many gardeners who like to use weedkillers and slug pellets. It breaks my heart, and as a rehabber of sick/injured hedgehogs, I cringe every time I hear someone use a strimmer on their long grass 😔
I understand. I have rescued many things and also love the environment just as passionately. I hate every time I hear someone discussing terrible synthetic man-made chemicals. They don't realize that it kills and affects more than "their" eye will see.
We do permaculture on 1/10 acre in a large city, zone 10a. I have about 40 fruit trees, a small vegetable garden, lots of fresh herbs and plants for pollinators.
That’s amazing to have fit so much in a such a small space. Would have loved to see a picture of your space
How big is 1/10 acre 9,000 sq feet?
Correction 1/10 is 4356 sq ft
what a lovely tour!
regarding the RoundUp: where I live the government has announced that glyphosate-containing herbicides will no longer be allowed after 2024. Also neonicotinoids have been strongly discouraged and restricted. Really, what helps is legislation. If your neighbors can’t buy glyphosate then they’ll have to use something less poisonous.
Also also: garden centers can really help shift people’s gardening culture. Meaning that if they encourage more pollinator friendly ways of maintaining a non-permaculture garden (by encouraging people to use alternatives to pesticides/ herbicides) then people who have no interest in having a permaculture garden will still be gardening in a more ecological way.
Lobbying your state government and local garden centers might be more effective than trying to convince neighbors who just want to have a conventional garden.
Thanks for the inspiration! I've got a similar situation, with a slightly smaller lot in Rhode Island - which I've owned for about 3 years. My region is somewhat colder, so my challenges are a little different. Most of my neighbors are awesome, and very supportive, except maybe one. We do have some folks who use lawn chemicals. So my yard becomes a safe haven for the insects. My neighbors say they are getting inspired by my front lawn, but I haven't seen anyone building their own edible landscapes. I'm hopeful, though, that they will become inspired. I might start offering some of my volunteer plants for people who want to do something similar. It would be great to have more of a network in the neighborhood. Either way, it's been a great conversation starter. When I'm out in the front yard picking alpine strawberries or haskaps, people always stop to say hi and to tell me how much they enjoy what I'm doing. 🙂🌱
We use distilled white vinegar in a pump spray bottle from a garden center to kill weeds. It works great. Just as well as Round-up. It's non-carcinogenic and much less expensive.
Hi neighbor, I also am in Parkrose. Thanks for being such an inspiration to someone who is in their 3rd year of slowly starting a food forest in our neighborhood. We are also hoping to put an ADU in our back yard which will cause part of our driveway to be taken out and I love the idea of reclaiming it as stepping stones. What a lovely forest you have.
The Edible Acres channel has a video where he carves a water leach trench along the property line & the water winds back onto the neighbor’s property
How cool! I need to find that video! I'd love to do gardening with/into my neighbor's yard! I try to have herbs and edible berries next to the fence line so the kids can grab some. Also, sweet peas, vining spinach, and cherry tomatoes. My neighbor appreciates that I help encourage her kids to eat healthy and enjoy fruits and vegetables.
@@midwestribeye7820 it’s called managing toxins from neighbors orchard. ua-cam.com/video/y3I5G3-uo6s/v-deo.html
I regularly use all of my lemon balm as chop and drop and never have to worry about it going to seed.
Thank you for what you shared about your neighbors. Seeing your videos, it's easy to idealize. It's good to understand some of the challenges and ways you've had to be flexible, thoughtful, and do your best in a less than ideal pesticide situation.
Well Done Angela!...another great permie description of your suburban garden!...which is, after-all, where most of us live!...and you are a very thoughtful neighbour!...next time you get some mulch you might offer some for your neighbours strip so that they do not need to spray?...Good Luck!...👏👏👏
Hi Angela, I live across the river in Camas and have been enjoying your videos immensely for the past month, you are a wealth of knowledge. I literally sit with pen and paper taking notes as you walk us through your beautiful urban permaculture property. I am excited to see your setup for collecting the rainwater off your shed for your ducks and also how you make your mint behave.
thank you for mentioning the size of the lot, it really helps me imagine my future property in a new development.
I wish that insecticides/pesticides with harmful chemicals were never invented 😔
Me too! Anaphylaxis due to chemical poisoning is no joke, let alone the multitude of other problems caused by toxins....
Funguses are natures answer to long term or forever chemicals
Some are better than others it’s called mycoremediation
Then there are phytoremediators to follow like sunflowers
I will border my property with deepen barrières and deposit wood mulch and mycelium. Plant sunflowers. Have soil tested by lab, and save that for lawsuit
Lovely, really enjoyed the walk through your garden. It is always helpful to see how others garden in a climate similar to mine.
I'm so glad I found your channel! We are in opposite parts of the country, but doing the same thing. I am in a subtropical to tropical coastal area of Florida. We have about a 6th of an acre in a suburban area. I completely understand about the neighbor situation. We have one not so nice neighbor behind us, but otherwise they're lovely just really close. We're not supposed to be able to grow raspberries here, but my red lantham have flowered and fruited two seasons in a row! I'm also growing apples where you're not supposed to. Plants are crazy and awesome. We struggle with annuals due to constant fungal issues. We get a lot of rain as well and it's almost always highly humid. Thank you so much for sharing your knowledge!
Thank You for your wonderfully inspirational and informative videos. It's so good to have a "mentor" on a small urban site, not only to demonstrate what is possible but also as visual inspiration. I particularly appreciate your detailed descriptions and names of plants etc.
Absolutely amazing I love it so much great job
i'm amazed that your plants arent being hurt by the round up
Hi, it was so nice to see your stunning quince tree. Hopefully one day our two will be just as amazing. I like the vase style of pruning, I will give a go with that. The last couple of years I sadly lost the leaves on both, they all dried out and fall. It is really difficult to find any information how to care about quince, as hardly any people know what it is. I'll give a deep layer of compost around them and hope for the best.
It is also lovely to see a small scale permaculture garden. This example speaks to so many souls. I cannot be grateful enough for your amazing, inspiring videos. Our mulberry tree, that arrived a few days ago, will be definitely planted to the chicken's, ducks and Guinea fowls. Sadly I can't do the same with our figs, the fruit would not get ripe there here in Scotland. I absolutely love your advices, I learned so much from it. I am glad that our June Berry is away from the two quince trees. Sadly last year her leaves had issues too. This year I will not let the comfrey right next to it grow taller than my tiny June Berry, let it breath more. I will cut the comfrey regularly and lay it on the ground instead.
We planted strawberries as ground cover too, now I am just wondering how can I put compost down. As we experimented on a smaller area last year, put compost on top and the strawberries did not come back up there. I love that fact that we have so many of them, we made so much jam and we ate so many every single day, we shared strawberry plants to neighbours, but at the moment I feel like I have no space for vegetables 😅 a bit out of control, have to find a good solution. Probably I will move some of our alpine strawberry to the front, although it will be next to the road. I did not plant edibles to the front, because of the road yet. But replacing the grass between our fence and the road with edibles at least to wildlife would be moch nicer to the soul. Our lownmover is broken anyway and it would be too risky to let the hens to cut the grass out there. It will be woodchips and alpine strawberries, as their roots are not deep. A previous owner put bitumen there, and soil on the top, so I can't plant anything with deeper roots to there.
Thanks for your fantastic videos again, it is lovely to look around in your garden, you created heaven there with your experience and hard work.
Great going. I am the only person in my area of Cape Town, South Africa to have started a Permaculture garden in August 2021. I even dug a mini swale to catch the water coming of my roof and so far it is slow going as there was only a lawn. There were no trees in my yard at all and now I have 5 that I grew from seed or cuttings.
I’m so sad about your orchard that got taken out. We have a 1/3 acre property. And someone wanted to buy it and subdivide it. Luckily t was a childhood home of the owner and they didn’t want that. So I have 3 apples, a gold plum, a filbert and a cherry out back. All plants I don’t have to put in. And they’re very well-established.
I just discovered your channel. I have to watch all videos. They are great.
I would love to see up close how you created the arch with the hazel cuttings. That sounds like a great idea and it looks really beautiful.
Very efficient, environmentally friendly and financially productive use of sideyard. I do some of these in my sideyard but not as elegantly as in this video. Thanks for providing the insipration to do better with my sideyard.
this is amazingly beautiful; i'm a portland native, now residing in Vancouver, WA. thanks neighbor, keep it growin !
Hi Angela, I'm a newbie! I'm just trying to start. I love your videos. I just planted my first two heirloom apple trees. I have 10 acres I can fill!! I love that you mentioned garden "rooms"...that somehow relates to my thinking.
I’ve got some sorrel blooming right now. It’s lovely. If you ever get speedwell, it becomes a beautiful ground cover. It’s a weed, and spreads lovely draping runners over edges like something you deliberately bought to cascade down over something.
I’m just thrilled that the way we’re treating the lawn has caused it to start become more biodiverse. I’ve recently found wild geranium in the yard. ‼️❤️
We just bought our first home and I am loving all the info - I have every intention of doing urban permaculture.
Hows your experience been with wasps? In the past whenever I have a lot of fruiting plants like berries, apples, etc, there's always a month at the end of the summer where the wasps terrorized us.
We love our paper wasps! I let them build all under the eaves of my house and they deter yellow jackets.
I love your thoughts on putting berries along the path!
Awesome video!! Lots of good info! How inspiring to find a kindred spirit plant-nerd 😆
I love that you are thoughtful about the appearance of things, especially as it concerns the neighbors. ❤
Have you eaten the sunchoke? Someone said they make it into cakes. Thoughts?
Love the arch! Great repurposing. 👍
I had no idea you had two standard poodles! It gives me hope that I can have a garden oasis and not feel like I am taking away space from both of mine. I've been focusing on the front yard because of it, but this has given me hope that I can expand to the back too.
Hi Alisha, I also have dogs and started "to food forest" about 3 years ago. I started planting trees, shrubs, etc along the fenceline and put in another fenceline (I use the "electric" netting stuff, which is easy tu put up and move around, but WITHOUT electricity) to keep the dogs out of my edibles during the establishing period and growing season. That way the "fence garden" also doubles as a privacy sreening so the dogs don't bark at everything that goes down the street :)
I really am all about the food, but that rose arch is absolutely stunning.
rose flower petals are edible, rose hips, too :)
I saw the first three seconds of the vid and was like I gotta like this. How good does it look!
Tacoma, WA here. What up, YO!🤣
Invite your neighbors on all sides to an evening drink and serve them berries from your garden. Then explain what you're doing. Then open a discussion on bees and poisons. Don't assume you will convince them but you can educate them and maybe they will start to get the picture, if not now then later. Send them away with some fresh tomatoes or something. Nice neighborliness and possible future improvement of your local environment.
Beautiful garden!
Loving these tours. can you talk about what you do when it's not raining, do you have a drip or other watering system?
you truly are great neighbor. unfortunately permaculture is not for everyone and we need to respect that. my neighbors both have their entire gardens covered in tiles with my food forest in between. they still appreciate the occasional eggs and tomatoes;).
also, picking my favorite berries as if they are weeds still hurt a little;)
offer to put thick layer of woodchips next to your fence... show proof that weeds only grow to fix excess nitrogen in soil.. like chemical fertilizers
I would love to live next to you
Even though it is not your responsibility, You could suggest a trade off. Ask hem if you can apply a plastic barrier to their side ,and in turn they don't spray . Maybe move that piece of art to the top of the fence to make a better silhouette .
This is great, you're good at this, audio is sublime ASMR quality lol What zone/area are you in?!
I'm also worried that my neighbor might be using something that is not allowed or not good for us. That's why I plant on that side only plants that we don't eat. The neighbors on the other side don't use pesticides there I can plant food.
Do you have any videos on native violets? I've planted Viola adunca a few times but they tend to not get established and die on me :(, not sure what I am doing wrong.
Breaks my heart to see you pull the raspberries and I want them… sigh.
Wow, your research on Round up…. All around bad stuff.
New to your channel very nice
How do you find native violets? I have wanted to add violets to my yard.
I got mine from a friend but there is a nursery here Bosky Dell Natives that carries it too.
I hope this does not apply. If the siding on your house is very old it likely contains asbestos. It may not be a problem unless it is friable (crumbly).
Asbestos should not be dangerous to ingest, only to inhale. I don’t believe it’s toxic to humans, the danger is that tiny mineral particles cut your lungs and become lodged there.
So if it is sitting in the soil and a plant absorbs some of it, there shouldn’t be any risk from harvesting the plant, unless there’s so much that when you disturb the soil it launches large amounts of asbestos into the air. If there’s that much coming off your walls then you probably shouldn’t even be standing next to them.
Quince. Can't stand it 😂 We have quince. It's very usual where I live, but I hate to cut those hard fruits.
My property was originally a 160 acre orchard in Boise. And it was still 7.5 acres when in 1973, I'm assuming, Widow Frazier needed the money after her husband died. My "main house", a 1910 bungalow, was left with 1/2 acre. And I also have a quince shrub. What exactly does one do with those things? I thought those dinky fruits were just never ripening because of the 30' arborvitae hedge someone planted on the W side of it.
Do you do permaculture here? I would love to hear what you have planted and what has worked well for you in this climate
Did you set up your marionberry?
Do you have a picture of your design that shows your plant placement?
her garden is an ever changing, live system.. she doesnt make drawings of it, and moves things as they need to adjusted.
A Garden is a Progressive Life, it's living and changing, you can't have a permanent design.
Portland sucks , but your place is awesome.
Do you get plum curculio? If so how do you deal with it? Also, do you get brown or black rot?
I rent an allotment here in Ireland and the owner of the allotment regularly sprays the paths navigating the allotment with roundup!! :(
@Ei Dirst Unfortunately its not my land
Why would your neighbors not want free raspberries???
I hate round up it could never convince my parents it was bad stuff
Do you know how far is safe to plant root veggies from the house? Our is house is old too, so same issues here...
Maybe just get the soil tested?
Disliked because never showed fig that was in background
Really? Wow. Ok. Or you could watch other videos and see what figs I have. Or ask me. It’s a Desert King.
@@ParkrosePermaculture lol its a joke 😂
Some neighbors need to disappear
offer to put thick layer of woodchips next to your fence... show proof that weeds only grow to fix excess nitrogen in soil.. like chemical fertilizers