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Ah, should have rewired your Les Paul into "50s" wiring, then compare that to the treble bleed. It just takes your existing wiring in a Standard and re-wire one of the wires to a different post. You can look it up. It's like a treble bleed, only not as harsh as they can be. Jeff McErlain has a few videos talking about it, like his "Dialing in your Les Paul" video. It would have been interesting to see the differences.
EDIT: And I see someone has already suggested this. My point is that it would be interesting to see the difference between 50's wiring and a treble-bleed.
Yea I'm with you. The treble bleed makes more highs present and less mids when down. 50s wiring is solid and has opened up quite a few of my Gibson's.
I always used treble bleeds in everyrhung for the last few years but have recently gone back to 50's wiring. I love it because I still get fuzz and treble booster glassy clean up
On strats I should say
I much prefer 50's wiring to treble bleed. some people ride the tone knob, and for those people treble bleed seems to be their preferred choice (along with 60's wiring or modern wiring), (I am given to understand that if you move your tone knob while live it could effect the volume of the output in 50's wiring, so people that would change tone while playing would have an issue with this....I ONLY change my tone when I need to compensate for an out of balance amp)...also, I ride my volume knob (I use it to drive my amps, you change the volume of your guitar while live it will not effect your tone at all) and for me 50's wiring has always given me better results than treble bleed circuits. (which you would only put in to a guitar wired in modern or 60's wiring configurations. Why would you put a treble bleed circuit in to a guitar wired in 50's config as they do not have any treble loss as an issue? As stated earlier the 50's circuit would produce a volume loss when moving the tone pot, but the volume pot does not effect the tone at all, just the reverse is the issue with 60's and modern wiring circuits.).
A good tip for the awkward springs is to use an aligator clip to hold the spring back when reinstalling the pickup ring👍
Omg! Yes! Thank you! I can’t believe I hadn’t thought of that. And I’ve spent some time on my hands and knees searching for those dad-blasted springs that shot across the room when my grip slipped. More than once, for sure. 😂
@@spankyhanderson3680 you're welcome my friend, it was life changing for me too. I only wish I could remember who shared this tip with me, I can't take the credit unfortunately 😊
I know a technician who is sort of obsessed with guitar electronics. I mod all my humbuckers and P90s Gibsons with him. This is what he does:
1 - Neck volume knob becomes master volume for both pickups.
2 - Bridge volume knob becomes pickups blend (you can blend the bridge pickup when on neck position and vice versa; doesn't do anything on middle position).
3 - Neck tone knob becomes master tone knob (the usual low pass knob we all know).
4 - Finally, bridge tone knob becomes master high pass filter (not a treble bleeder, but something much more powerful and versatile).
I've been playing with different capacitor values for years and every guitar ends up with a different value for this high pass filter knob. It is just so practical and powerful that I can't use a standard wiring Les Paul anymore. At any volume you can dial in just the right amount of bass and treble that you want on your sound, almost like a two band EQ pedal. Not to mention that, to me, it's more practical to have one knob working on both pickups for everything. One master volume, one high pass filter, one low pass filter.
My go-to setup when playing edge of break up sounds on the neck pickup is to blend 20% of the bridge signal (gives it a bit more bite), roll off the bass (high pass knob) to about 7 and then play with the saturation using the master volume knob.
You'd be surprised by how much this mod opens up a world of tonal possibilites. By rolling off the bass 100%, you get almost a rickenbacker sound. Not harsh at all, just thin. It's so cool. Oh, and P90s also benefit a lot from these mods. Highly recommend you do some research on the original Les Paul schematics, designed by Les Paul himself. He was a big fan of the high pass filter knob. I wish Gibson kept it in the final design. People don't know what they're missing.
That's such a killer idea
can ya post va schematic for it please
How exactly is it done?
I'm gonna need a schematic, chief.
@@beefs0ck911 I’ll ask the guy who did the mods for me.
A few things about treble bleed "circuits": First of all, to call it a "circuit" is generous, as it is little more than a capacitor (which we are used to putting on tone pots) put on the volume pot together w/ or w/o a resistor in series or (more usually) in parallel...or with 2 resistors, one in series & one in parallel with the cap.
The point is to "brighten" tones as volume is reduced, such that it has more and more effect as volume is decreased (...when tone would normally get more "muddy"). Those who complain that it make the tone too "bright" or "tinny" need experiment with different values of capacitor & resistor(s).
This experimentation can be accomplished by soldering two leads in place of the treble bleed, that can exit from under the pick-guard. With alligator clips on the end of the leads, different value components can be swapped in until the most desirable combination is found.
Note, too, the the treble bleed does not affect tone at all at full volume and a toggle switch can be added to bypass it if desired. Alternatively, for under $10-15 tiny units like V-Treb provide the ability to vary the amount of treble bleed effect...even to the extent of allowing the installation of a small pot to vary that effect at will.
BTW, I think the presence of two volume controls is bad design, though it is used in some guitar models for decades. Much more practical is one master volume control & a balance which varies the volume of one channel (pickup) from 0 to 100%, while the other remains at 100% (both on full at mid-detent/click).
That Treble-bleed circuit really makes a difference on your neck pickup. I like the improved presence. Gives more of an ES-335 tone.
I refurbished a telecaster I built in the 90's over the winter and spent a lot of time listening to the wiring before I changed it. First I got rid of the treble bleed circuit and then changed out the brand of cap in the tone circuit (orange drop now). The tone really improved and the Texas special pickups really sound great now (repotted the neck pickup too). Adding a 4-way switch was a nice touch (so two pickup with a serial and parrallel wiring option) It's always a good idea to spend time with your wiring, a couple of amps, and a few pedals and see what really works for you.
Your videos are becoming better and more varied. I like it. What got me into your channel was the backstage vlogs. Please continue that when you can. Thanks.
As much as I love the Company’s pedals, from what I heard, the Mythos actually sounded muddier to me on most examples.
Yeah that's why I nevered liked alnico II magnets. If those were alnico V's it would probably sound way better.
Honestly, I find it really hard to tell in this video. Not sure what Rhett was playing through on this video, but his tone was super boomy with way too much bass. Sounded like the amp was crapping out and way too muddy when on the treble pickup for both sets of pickups. Sounded like way too much room mic too, so maybe he's still working on dialing in the new studio.
@@Stratisfied22 I love jazz and clean very slight edge of breakup blues and alnico II are my favorite magnets
everything sounded compressed and very similar
@@AndrewNuttall his tone was his usual tone, a little less crispy maybe which is not a bad thing.
Great videoI When I install treble bleed capacitor, I always use a heat sync to solder to the pot. If the potentiometer gets too hot from solder, the disk that turns the dial inside warps and then it's wrecked. I've learned that the hard way!
The Wizz sounded much more "open" and clear - like they were breathing - The Mythos were quite muffled.
I have Wizz in one of my guitars, and they never left me wanting. They sound perfect in it.
they both sounded very similar and compressed.
@@jfar3340 Do you mean compressed like with a compressor? it has less attack?
@@DynamicRockers ''Do you mean compressed like with a compressor?'' yes
''it has less attack?'' among other things
Everything just sounds so compressed, no dynamics.
That's strange, I thought just the opposite. The Wizz pickups sounded like there was a blanket over the amplifier un my opinion... 🤔🤔🤔
Then again I thought the stock BurstBuckers sounded better than both of the aftermarket pickups...lol
Treble bleed sounds awesome on that LP. Once I saw Fender had installed one on my 2017 Pro Strat, I went ahead and installed them on all of my guitars. Once you've tried it, it makes you wonder why most guitars don't just come with those installed stock.
Because the prices would have to be slashed. Believe it or not this is a feature that the big makers like to slam $300 and more onto the retail price. Pardon the pun, but in time this feature will 'Bleed' into the features of less expensive Guitars. It's as you say a selling point.
@@fongy200 yeah, crazy that it’s a basic $5 mod that I’m sure is used as a expensive up sell. But like you said, only for so long until it becomes more expected and standard.
Probably because many people including myself use the volume control to completely turn off the volume at certain moments when playing live
Thanks for clearing things up. That's why I love this channel.
Very informative RS. I love when you show us alternative stuff to try. Keep that rolling sir! Love your channel my fellow Georgian.
Great video Rhett. The pickups sound very good and the guitar mods were fun to watch. I really liked the video production. The cuts to Zach gave it a Discovery Channel vibe.
Excellent tip. Many thanks. Really enjoying your new breaking out of the pentatonic box course.
Fck yeah! Way to go zach! We've been waiting! Great vid as per the ush rhett💛🤙
What I usually do with treble bleeds Rhett is fit them using a push-pull so that the treble bleed is 'switchable', means you can choose to let the sound get darker as you roll off the volume or have it retain those highs depending on whether the pot is in the up or down position
In a couple of my guitars I did something different, 50s tone wiring also retains more of the highs when you back off the volume, in a couple of guitars I have the tone as a push-pull which allows me to switch between 50 and 60s or 50s and 'modern' tone wiring, found I prefer that to the switchable treble bleed
Off to get a treble bleed set for my 2019 Classic. Nice playing Rhett & that finish on your Standard is a work of art.
Nice clear usable tone when volume rolled off....bet it sits in a mix well. Thanks for scoop!
Treble bleeds are a godsend when you are playing at low levels to keep that bright bite intact. Love them, especially when you can buy them for $3 pre-made. Great upgrade for single coils too
I’m so glad you said that about chrome pick ups! And your comparison to chrome rims made perfect sense and couldn’t agree more. Well stated and I’ll be stealing that!
I have treble bleeds on my LP, SG, Tele, and 335., both pickups on all. At very low volumes, you can get borderline strat sounds from the LP, especially on the neck pick-up.
Gary, can you post a link to the treble bleeds you use? Thanks
@@Starkman3 sure, will do. I will take some pictures and post a link.
Had a treble bleed in a guitar once, took it out within a few days. Didn’t like it at all, but each to their own. It just reduces bass and mid frequencies and you’re left with a thin sounding guitar. To me it was more useful to use the volume control as it is to knock back treble in harsh sounding rooms/amps. And then use a volume pedal if I want to reduce actual volume.
That's what I'd be worried about too. I like dialing back the volume to kill the jangles from my strat copy lol
I had a similar problem, I ended up making the treble bleed switchable with a push/pull pot.
@@StephenGallacher Now that's dope
Never had that problem/those anomalies. ever; just sayin’
TRY vintage wiring instead! Works almost as well, no bass loss!
I disagreed with you that the mythos pick up sound better than the Wizz PAFs. The Wizz pick ups, at least to my ears have more clarity and more of the telecaster sound that you
are referring too. I do like the trouble bleed circuit that makes a huge difference, and look forward to getting my hands on one at some point. Great stuff!
I'm thinking the sound in his room is much different than what's coming out of our devices.
That’s because you’re used to just the neck sound… and a crossover is a blend… the Mythos’s are more bite than smooth especially with the treble bleed. Not saying you’re not right it’s more a gravitation to the fruit of the sound… so yeah I get your view.. If I am correct he wanted more bite in the sound across the fret board… and it seemed like it did that… the video sound quality on UA-cam Is so so…
I've installed quite a few treblebleed caps (usually on a master volume), and they are definitely worth checking out!!
The Mythos Pickups sounded kind of muffled and dark. Probably would sound good with a Slide. I preferred the other set.
I've tried a Treble Bleed on my Strat several times, but since that guitar is rather bright to start out with, that mod isn't useful for me.
I thought the same, much preferred the PAF’s
I think it's more his amp settings.
Phew, I'm not the only one. I thought the original pickups sounded better. Rhett says at 6:17 that the Mythos is giving him "more, especially on the top end..." I don't hear it. I much preferred the Whizz pickups.
I had the same impression. To my ears the Mythos had darker tone, less defined highs (I was surprised when Rhett said he got more top end from them). I too preferred the other set, and overall I do prefer the clarity of my R8 Custom Buckers. Maybe linked to UA-cam compression? I'm listening through JBL monitors though. Guitar looks great by the way.
this could be solved by turning up the treble on the amp by a notch or two.
Wow best post ever!! Loved this thanks Rhett. Great look at some cool mods. The diff was audible even on a phone
Sounded incredible dude!
I agree about rolled down volume knob + fuzz pedal = best clean sound. It's just so damn great 👍
The Ibanez JS Joe Satriani models all have the "high pass filter" on the volume push pull. I use it all the time, it is really useful when playing with high gain as it allows you to go to an almost clean tone without changing channels but maintains good definition.
Keep rockin'
Gretsch had been putting a treble bleed on their master volume pots for Filter'tron equipped models lately. Sounds fantastic.
I used treble bleeds for ages.... and then I tried 50's wiring. I went back and forth for a while because 50's wiring does change the sound of the instrument (makes it clearer and not as dark) and how the volume and tone pots act and interact. Now I love 50's wiring and can't go back. They are on all my guitars....
I installed a treble bleed in my latest build/mod and love how it works at different volume levels. I did a demo on YT when testing it. I'm also looking at installing them in my other guitars. Nice demo Rhett.
I'm telling you, the Mojotone '59 Clone - Low Wind humbucker set will blow your mind. Old PAF's are a lot brighter than the stuff people make these days. The Mojotone PAF's nail it. Their pots work miracles by themselves.
Both the Wizz and Mythos set still sound like mudbuckers to me.
I’ve got a limited run set of Mojotone premium historic ‘59 PAFs installed in a HH jazzmaster (maybe a bit sacrilegious haha), and they’re great. They’re pretty bright and clear, sometimes even more spiky than my strat. But very warm and full sounding that break up super great, even with digital modelers.
Totally agree.
@@omoon66 nah man, jazzmasters should have had at least a bridge humbucker anyway.
I’ve heard Wizz pickups with a lot more treble air than Rhett is getting from ‘em, so I assume the dark sound is about amp settings and recording setup rather than the pickups themselves.
@@davidkieltyka9 Did you ever hear the expression, "damned with faint praise" ?? That's kind of what Rhett did with those Wizz pickups. The way he said, "I'm not gonna get rid of them, I'm gonna save them... they're really good PAFs so they're gonna end up going... in something else...but..." seems to lump Wizz PAFs in with all the other replacement humbuckers out there, when in fact they really are something quite special in the rarified and exclusive world of PAF clones.
I have a guitar that came stock with a treble bleed circuit and I always tell people that the guitar came with a clean channel. It’s a wonderful mod.
The switchable treble bleed is a really cool idea.
To my old start pounded ears I like the mythos more smooth and as you said bitey .that bleed really cleans it up
Personally preferred the Wizz to Mythos, they had more of the qualities i enjoy from a good set of PAFs. Im surprised you found the mythos to have the “tele on steroids” thing, they def sounded woolier to my ears, kind of like the lollar imperials imo. Good pickups for sure, not my thing. 50s wiring with the Wizz wouldve been my move and wouldve corrected all the issues you were having.
I agree, I thought the Mythos sounded woollier. They wouldn't cut through in a band situation like the Wizz would.
I second this. I liked the Wizz set as well.
Liked the mythos better
I've installed them on every guitar I own. A must have if you roll the volume down.
Me as well. It's a must. Playing with fuzz has never been this fun before.
Even on a strat?
I recently removed every treble bleed from all my guitars. I enjoy the different sounds by rolling off.
@@zacadelic7247 especially on a strat! Gives you amazing dynamics because you won't lose any top end from those single coils when you roll the volume down.
@@popeye089 For sure! All depends on the player and the application. For me personally I do prefer being able to have my full pickup volume be where I set my default crunch/gain sound and then be able to roll the volume down for a quieter/cleaner sound with more touch dynamics without it getting muddy or boomy. I think in the context of a song a lot of the times it's great to use the input gain (i.e. the pickup volume) rather than turning a pedal on or off to control the overdrive differences inside of a song whenever possible as it usually ends up more natural sounding and less abrupt/jarring. In other genre's though I could absolutely see why you might want something else.
Hi Rhett, I have treble bleeds on all my custom made Strats and they are great. I own a Les Paul Gold Top from 1969 with two fantastic PU's, so called T-Tops. This guitar sounds great as it is.
I have another LP from 2007 which had awful sounding Classic '57 PU. I found another T-Top for the neck and combined it with a Seymour Duncan JB Model. This guitar became a killer one.
But the biggest improvement was to replace bridges and tailpieces with ABM products for both LP's, a German company. This was absolutely mind blowing. The tone turns out to be more accurate, defined and precise. Maybe this is the reason why I never noticed my LP's sounding muddy when backing off the volume. I can recommend replacing the bridges with ABM or another equivalent brand for Strat's too, it's simply amazing. After watching this video I will listen closely to my LP's and if needed I will install treble bleed's.
It might also be a good idea to look at the value of your pots. The values of the pots on some LPs from some eras were lowish. 500K tone pots are worth looking into.
250K on a strat or tele
I always wire the treble bleed or bright cap via the tone pot, so I can have the tone pot controlling treble boost or cut. Tone pot wiper to the pickup (selector), one end of the pot via treble cut cap to the ground, the other end via bright cap to the volume pot wiper. Cap sizes according to the pickups and taste.
The treble bleed sounds great. At the lower volume makes it sound more like a vintage LP Deluxe mini humbuckers.
I installed treble bleeds on both volumes of my les paul. I ended up taking it off the bridge pickup, the bleed kept it too "dirty" and i rolled off the volume. It however sounded beautiful on the neck as it rolled off.
I did a blind test on this video and the Wizz PU's were quite a bit better than the Mythos PU's. I thought the Mythos were more muddy and they just sounded better. Most of the time we rate sound/tone not with our ears but with brand names and cost. No matter who you are, it will be a big factor in your preference. So always do a blind test, this way your ears make the choices. I am kinda on the fence for the treble bleed, yes I could hear a difference but not sure it was better or worse with it on.
i just installed a treble bleed in my Strat (Kent Armstrong pickups, 1 nanofarad cap + 120k ohm resistor in series, 250k pots) and i love it!! i added a switch to enable/disable it for easy comparison and the difference was night and day! sounds so much brighter and lively when volume is rolled down. highly recommend it!
I had a Stratocaster for about 15 years before I had a friend of mine install a treble bleed into my volume pot and it absolutely changed everything about the way that I interacted with my volume knob on My Guitar they are beautiful things to have and they are almost instrumental in making you a better guitar player no pun intended
Peavey has used bleed on their guitars and basses on their T series since 1978. Great feature.
The Mythos manage to make a pickup which has even more lower mids then the muddy Gibson's. For the classic PAF tone you need something done to the 50s Gibson brief: make a HB to sound like a P90 without the noise. These do not meet that brief, the Whizz are much closer. Mythos are pretty muddy. Wizz wins these one for me.
I love the low end coming out of the Mythos pickups. Don't hear that coming from the Whizz. Both sound great! I do think the amp needs to be brighter, but maybe that's just my cheap monitors. Love to see the diy work! People need to see this stuff. This is the nitty gritty that goes on behind the scenes of being a musician
Zach really does have a great ear. Keeping these in mind for the next time I’m looking for a low output humbucker
I indeed like the way my pickups darken up with the volume pot down
That way when I go to full volume for a solo (for example) I get a little bit better cutting through
Just a matter of setting my eq to full brightness with the volume up, getting it down to "rhythm sound" and adjust if I need it
Listening via my Beyer ref headset, the Mythos have a good punch, but to me are muddy, as you stated prior to the treble bleed. That definitely helped. Although I really liked the sound of the Wizz pickups in general, more so. To me I prefer clarity over punch. I would like to hear the treble bleed with the Wizz pickups - wondering if they would thin out too much. Great review Rhett. Love watching all your stuff, and the stuff you do with Rick. As I'm right up the road from him in Gville, you guys always make me wish I could just drop by and hang out. lol
Yeah I really like the Mythos pickups as well, they have what I call a musicality to them that makes me wanna play more!!
The treble mod works well too but I'm on the fence w it cause I like that darker tone you can get when you roll the volume pot back on the neck providing it doesn't start to muddy out ....its a fine line to play with lol
I first tried a treble bleed circuit on my 2016 Professional Jaguar, and holy does that make a huge difference. I’ve since modded my 2019 LP standard with the same mod too.
Love Mythos but for my tastes the Wizz takes it in this comparison, the mythos has something muffley going on in the lows / lower mids that was a bit too much. Treble bleed sounds amazing though, great fix for the turned down Les Paul muddiness
Don't like that neck much either. But feel like the bridge is actually clearer than the wizz?
That was awesome I think that was the best front pickup I’ve heard in a while.
I put the series version in. Massive difference in my strat and the volume knob still works as good.
Popped one in my American Standard 96 Strat. Gave it new life. I use the volume knob more now.
Hey Rhett, I would highly recommend replacing the Stock volume pots with 525+ ohm VIPs & wire the harness 50's style. It will bring the pickups to life with greater clarity & way smoother attenuation. I wasn't completely satisfied when I swapped the Stock PU's to OX4 A4 LW , Until I changed the Pots. Maybe replace the entire Harness with a 50s kit from Throwback or VIP???
Love your playing & grateful for all the time & effort you put into the channel.
Cheers
I put a treble bleed circuit in my strat. I know many people like the excessive way strats darken as you roll off volume, but it was driving me nuts. Once you get used to playing a few Gretsches, you can’t stand life without it.
Fender obviously agree as all their pro series guitars have it by default.
Hey, Rhett. Do a "What's the Princeton Reverb sound?".
Short and simple
Thank you so much !!!
I absolutely love the treble bleed mod. I have it on my P90 Gibson Les Paul. I think I may give those pickups a try in one of my other Les Pauls!!
I put treble bleeds on a few of my neck pick ups. They sound so clear and clean and I love rolling back the neck volume to a crisp clean tone then I go to the Bridge pick up gain roar. Very Pagey 🤗
I've been using treble bleed circuits for around 12 years. When I first tried the simple version of only a capacitor (like many early Telecasters had) I didn't like it because it became too bright with the volume below 5. But adding a resistor with it really helped. Have you compared 50's Gibson wiring with modern wiring? That's part of why older Les Paul's have that "bloom" sound
"step away from the soldering iron". 50's wiring is the way and has always been the way!
Another great vid Rhett, love the Mythos pickups and treble bleed in your Paul. What year LP is that?
I installed a treble bleed on my les paul and it barely had any effect. It's a lot more effective to rewire your tonepot as a "roll of bass" control than the standard wiring.
The magnetic pull (Gauss) from different pickups will be different. If your string is too far onto the field it will struggle vibrating properly sounding muddy. Use a scope and measure for good output and adjust greatest distance between string and mag pole.
Rhett your Paul has never sounded better my friend !! everything sounds great !!!
I got treble bleeds in all my humbucker guitars. Love it! 50’s wiring is not enough. On the neck pickup, that is.
So right about shiny chrome pickups, good call having him dull them up.
Be careful using a treble bleed with vintage style fuzz pedals. When you turn your volume down it will get way too bright and harsh
This tradeoff is heart-breaking for jimi fans
Rj Ronquillio demoed a treble bleed circuit that can be switched on and off. It also had several sound options while on. Definitely seems cool if you like to use a fuzz face with a strat. Turn the treble bleed off while fuzzing out, and turn it back on with overdrive or playing through a darker amp. I'd like to try one with my PlexiDrive pedal to see if it would brighten it up with the volume rolled back.
Rather interesting about how one modification can change the whole game! Definitely have to give those a shot
Hey those tones were very cool, hope you have a lot of fun with your Les Paul or whatever else you decide to use those pickups for.
Those new pickups sound great...agree with the treble bleed
Tip for you Rhett (and anyone else who has fought this problem) ...When swapping the rings, use a pair of small alligator clips as spring compressors to help get the screws started...The ones I use are about a half inch jaw length. Good luck!
When I had my buddy install my Screamin Demons in my Les Paul, he added a treble bleed in my bridge pot. Made a big difference, especially since I play Thrash/Heavy Metal
Rhett, You can make a treble bleed with mini-alligator clips to install temporarily to see if you like it before permanently installing one. As far as the pickups, I honestly would need to play a guitar to determine if they worked for me. It’s so hard for me to discern the difference by listening to a video, but if you’re happy I’m happy.
Wow, a logical and rational comment on UA-cam! A rare sight
@@dansimpson1729 It's not that rare, however you're mostly on guitar and gaming videos which has the most toxic and senseless communities out there 😂 It's like The Gear Page forum where nobody seems to know what they're talking about and yet amongst themselves.
@@stevelife8505 Except for the TPG Helix forum, which has outstanding contributors.
Highly doubt that lol
I mean, there are a lot of members there who take credit for other people's work, Helix forum included. Mods are too lazy to ban the trolls but quick to clean up evidence 😂
You've got my support brother 👍
Love my Dimarzio Tone Zones with alnico iv and iii mag swaps. Hot and overwound like hell but with the "correct" magnets and 550k pots too.
Always something lost over the computer, but to my ear these pickups sound really, really good.
I have considered throwing in a treble bleed to my electronics, but feel that the 50's wiring alone saves quite a bit of high end when rolling off the volume (at least in comparison to the PCB that came on my guitar). I also have coil splits, so the control cavity is already a bit cramped, and a treble bleed definitely wouldn't help with that.
I use treble bleed circuits in a lot of my guitar builds. They do work well at higher volumes but there is not a big difference if you play at low volume or clean. Doesn't hurt your tone at all though so give it a try.
Then you do not have the right capacitor installed. The Treble bleed in my guitars works good at every volume and also very good with clean sounds.
@@Andreorsel, I use the same set up as Lindy Fralin.
@@jonahguitarguy , don’t know about that one,but it’s important to have the right capacitor matching your pickups and volume pot.
As i said, in my guitars the treble bleed works great at every volume and also with clean sounds.
I am impressed with the treble bled. more so than the pick ups. I use the volume nob for tone on both bridge and neck. Very curious if the bleed on the bridge makes it too bright. Cool video, thanks
I just installed a treble bleed and grease bucket circuit on my Sheraton when I swapped the pickups out for Lollar El Rayo's. The guitar sounds amazing, but I find myself slightly disappointed because I no longer really need any of my OD pedals. 😅 Instead of dialing in a clean, edge of breakup sound, I now have to dial in the sound based off the most amount of drive I'll be using, since it keeps so much articulation. I also found that a little dirt goes a lot further now; even my Soul Food, which I use as a light boost, is bordering on too much.
This, exactly 👏
Nothing beats an awesome sounding Les Paul.. Sounds great man. Good job
haven't even watched the video yet but i know its great lol keep it up Rhett you're awesome!
Very cool!!!! Sounds great.
I think treble bleed is cool for single-channel-amp-players who want more high end when going clean. I had it in my PRS McCarty but didn’t like the „unnatural“ retention of treble so I took it out. I like that my guitar goes in the background a bit when I lower the volume. If I want glossy cleans I just change the amps channel.
I play a Schecter PT Fastback and loved the Duncan humbuckers, I’d like to try these ones out on that one too! ☺️
That sound is killer!!! thanks for the video! btw, need to know what pick you're using :D It is giving an extra tone there for those neck sounds!
I’ve been using a treble bleed on all my guitars for 18 years and now I can’t stand playing a guitar without it. But I use the PRS Custom 24 treble type which is just a 180 pF capacitor without the resistor. I’ve notice the your guitar tones are usually too dark for my taste.It’s like Clapton’s Cream era tone, but it still sounds nice and sweet.
Very hard to hear the difference when not in person. Both sound good. The treblebleed comes across. A treblebleed for those that don't know is just a cap soldiered from the middle lug on the pot to one lug of the wiper on the pot. You can use Metallized Polypropylene Film, Ceramic, Mylar Polyester Film they do not have polarity so it don't matter which way you put them in. You can also use different values.
I'm subscribed, and every time I watch you, I get smarter! Man, those sound good!!!!! And the treble bleed-wow!
I have a guitar Brian Porter built when he apprenticed with John Bolin here in Boise. It has some "prototype" pups Brian rolled before starting his Porter Pickups company. According to Brian, he was hoping to impress Bolin enough with his pups to include them in some John Bolin guitar models. Looks like that passion carried right into Porter Pickups and Porter Guitars.
I actually love those Mythos pickups and the treble bleed wow your not kidding on clarity and Hume of the whisp of sounds… hope Zakk gets going hot on these… I know tons of LP players and real good ones… You should put this in Billy Gibbons ear…!!! Bet he would be impressed being now that Elwood is now on the floor team banging out Dusty’s spot and clearing head space…!! A new sound for Billy would hop up the spurs and get Elwood a new flavor upgrade too… and sounds like your soldering is better than you thought… nice posting …!!!
also do try out 550k volume/tone pots. it kinda takes that "blanket on top of speakers" out and really opens up those pickups
That’s a nice top. I prefer the 50s wiring personally. The treble bleed makes the tone pot less interactive with the volume but that’s not always a bad thing