I've had my Bryton bike computer for 3 years and love it. It has been reliable, gives me all the information I need and easy to see details on the screen when riding. Battery life between charges is around 30hours although I recharge mine after every second ride. Would I buy another one in the future ... Absolutely!
From where I am from, I have checked and the price for a Bryton cyclocomp isn't what we can call as a budget cyclocomp. One brand in particular that I've found reliable, durable, have a very long battery life and very budget friendly is the XOSS G+ which you can connect to a speed/cadence sensor and heart monitor and can also upload your activities to Strava.
I know a cycling computer is a trend. I use my cellphone with Google maps, and I never take the wrong turn. Battery lasts forever and if needed to charge it I simply stop at a restaurant and charge it while filling up my bottles with ice cubes and water. For the rest of the data an affordable computer with a battery that lasts years is a better option and they are very affordable.
Hi Leonard I have had my Bryton Rider 50 for about 8 years with hrm and cadence. Still works perfectly fine for me although not quite as sophisticated as new models (ie. no wi fi to computer) So on my own experience I can highly recommend Bryton. Just watched your latest you tube film so hope everything goes well for you with just income from you tube. Hopefully more manufacturers will approach you to test and review their products. Sometimes they seem to forget that most cyclists are middle / old aged are not competitive but just enjoy riding. As for me will be 65 in a couple of weeks and retiring from the grind. Looking forward to more cycling in the Derbyshire Peak District. Ps it is not called the Peak District because it is flat. Special thanks to your wife in supporting you through theses difficult times.
Hi Leonard, thanks for your review of the Bryton bike computer. I wasn't aware of the brand. Looking at their prices on line they really do look like quality products and very good value for the money.
I was in the market for a bike computer a few weeks ago and was considering the Karoo. I saw some of the issues you were having so decided to get the new wahoo bolt and I love it. Without your videos I might have made a mistakes so thanks Mike 😃
I’ve had good success with entry level Bryton units too. Passed one along to a beginning rider who still uses it. I like Lezyne a little better. Still much lower than a Wahoo or a Garmin, but well featured, 20+ hr battery life and all the features.
My first ‘real bike gps’ was a ‘Bryton Ryder’. We both took a real hammering one day in a really heavy downpour and I could have cried when it stopped working. We had done a fair few kilometres together. It was my pride & joy. The App worked great too. I replaced it with a Garmin Edge 200 off ‘fleabay’ only to find out that my HRM didn’t work with it. It worked with the Bryton.
Had a 420 for 2yrs and it’s great value for money. Does everything attaches easily to sensors. You can even save a new route you do with friends then upload it and reuse it gain with navigation later on. Battery life is ace never had it run out - longer side 103 miles 6hrs with navigation in use, heart monitor and cadence❤️😀👍
Last month my Wahoo roam gave up. I have been using another entry level computer the Magene c406: for Sunday clubruns and other rides that I do not need navigation, this is fine and I will continue to use it for such purposes as the battery life is so good. I will be replacing my Wahoo for Touring. Having a cheap standby computer also increases the life of an expensive one as it it doesn't need to be used as much.
Entry level units are getting so good, the only reason you'd need a higher level computer would be navigation, and these even include breadcrumb navigation which can be good enough for some people, which is amazing itself.
Great video, got a very basic Bryton rider15 as a present 2 years ago, absolutely love it, great stat's, uploads to strava, fantastic battery life. No need for anything else, when it does eventually give up the ghost will look at replacing with the same.
I bought a Magene C406 with Magene H603 HR along with their Speed and Cadence sensors and it's a great combo. Works flawlessly all the time. All this for well under $200.00 CDN. I've been out in pouring rain on many occasion and or very wet road and have had no issues. It's a great system and gives more than enough data including temperature.
Got a hardly used Edge Explore for £90. Came with a cover, screen protector and a proper mounting bracket. Been good, had it a year. Good for 100 mile range, and uses only a tiny fraction of a phone, so easy to top up. The Best thing is the big coloured screen for nav. The detailed maps also have many things like shops, petrol stations, parks etc. It re-routes if get off course. Also, live tracking via phone.
I've heard good things about their top-flight Bryton 750 which has Garmin like navigation for around £200-£250. The new Sigma ROX range looks interesting as well for a budget GPS computer. You're lucky to be able to try these out. I love cycle tech and being able to compare different GPS must be very interesting.
Thanks for the review! I've been looking at cycling computers for a while now. I don't really ride far enough or long enough to really need one yet but I'll keep this in mind when I get one.
James. Take a look at the Xoss cycle computer. It costs about £35 and does everything that you need. I've had mine since June and it's been excellent. Extremely long battery life, good clear screen that works during the day and lights up at night. Take a look. You wont be dissappointed or skint....
I've always used a Bryton 530 and enjoy it. I've had issues with the app map function and had trouble getting customer service. I've also had to do a factory reset to resolve an issue.
The 420 might be the best bargain unit on the market right now. I found it for under $100 bux shipped, and find the feature set to be the best at the price point..
Nice little gadget! But you can even go cheaper: I have a Xoss G+, which you can get for about 40€ without sensors. It has LCD and 2 buttons (only) but HR, Speed, Cadence via ANT+ or BT GPS (no navigation, only tracking and speed). No Powermeter function. It has its shortcomings, but battery time is gigantic! And it has an app for setups, Data storage and connection to strava and others. Also I know many people, that use a wahoo or similar, but they keep an extra Xoss just for spare, just in case the "Big Guy" has malfunctions or been forgotten to charge...
I'm been using a Bryton 320 since April 2021, my Garmin 520+ dies after 5 hours. I got the 320 since I don't need the mapping functions. I love having not to worry about my 6+ hour rides not recording anymore. I got friend a Bryton 15 for her birthday since it has GPS and basic functions that was all she wanted.
You found Bryton! Sometimes the app has an update and breaks. Most recently for 2 or so weeks. But they did fix it. The basic computer is great. Battery, as you say, is fantastic. My 410 died after 2 years of use. That may have been due to bad charging practice though. And I was able to replace it. Don't know if a 420 could be cracked open.
I just don't understand why people want all that date! I ride a few thousand miles a year and have no need to know whether my left leg is producing more power than my right 😂
Button control is NOT a bad thing. In pouring rain, touchscreens pick up raindrop impacts and the unit navigates itself to a mess. Top Tip for touchscreen bike computer ( and Garmin Oregon ). Find a clear plastic bottle that fits over the unit. Take a small pair of scissors and trim the clear plastic bottle to fit over the unit. A Rainshield. For Garmin Oregon, the bottle is a Johnson's Baby Oil 200ml. Garmin Oregon is 2 x AA cells. I use Li-Ion 3500mAhr. With 30% backlight, recording and navigating, the unit lasts 6 1/2 hours. I take 4 x spare cells in a plastic battery case. All cells are numbered to avoid confusion. 3 sets of cells can get me comfortably through a 200km Audax. A 300km if I spend less time at the cafes.
Thanks Leonardo. I’m using an old edition Garmin Edge given to me by a friend, for which I’m very grateful. It does the job but I’m fighting the urge to get a ‘better’ bike computer. Don’t know that I need to go all-singing, all-dancing however….. I’ll take a look at the one you show here.
The Xoss G+ isn't a bad option and is half the price if you don't need all-singing and dancing. £149.95 isn't that much cheaper than a Garmin Edge 530.
I have had this bryton rider 420 for the last 3 months and I love it! I came from a cheaper bike computer which was such a hassle to use compared to this. However I have to say I don't really like their mobile app because it doesn't really let me analyze my data and doesn't tell what my data means.
I have various Bryton devices (Rider 330, 530, 450) on my entire fleet of bikes. They have worked admirably for many years. Only the 530’s battery degraded and it could not hold its charge so I decommissioned that device. I have reached out to customer support on several occasions and they have responded promptly.
Had the same problem with my 530, battery fade away and did not hold the power for more then 3 minutes at the end. Opened the unit to find out what kind of battery I need. Bought a Lithium Polymer LiPo Batterie Akku 1000mAh 503450 3.7 V 1S PCB BMS 21on Ebay, old one has only 850? mAh. Took a little bit of fine solding but now the unit works well again :-) Sadly the WiFi syncronization does not work now but transfer by bluetooth still okay
@@sportbootjo When the battery died in mine, I contacted Bryton and, as I mentioned earlier, they were very prompt to reply with assistance. The replacement battery from them would have cost $29 plus shipping and I was already thinking of upgrading to the 450 model so I simply passed.
I had a fairly cheap Garmin computer for 5 years, it cost around £70 I think and also did breadcrumb routes. It was OK but really frustrating as I had the same issues you had when you get to junctions, just not clear where to go. It was also a really basic device I upgraded last week to a Wahoo Elemnt Roam. Cost £300 but the maps are amazing, you get place names, nearby roads, a feature to take you home, lots of data you can look at, elevation maps to show what's coming up and what grade hill you're on.
We have several IG sport ig20se units,have been very good the only drawback is only kph no mph and only basic GPS and manual connection but for bread and butter fit files for Strava and a peanut price great
I have this unit and it's very good. Only gripe is the route planning on the app is too fiddly. However, I simply use another app and then load the gpx files on to my Bryton.
Naaaa... some of us just ride. And we soon learn to sense our mileage. Been that way for 65-years for me :-) One's mirror & scale should reveal all the details one wishes to know, for the bicycling lifestyle. And your happy attitude (hopefully) :-)
My Bryton420 has frozen up on hot long rides (85+ degrees Fahrenheit and 65 mile or longer rides) but it normally runs good on long rides as long as it's not hot out
I have Bryton 320 with set of meters, quite nice. Just HRM has an issue with PC connection to Zwift, but it is more on PC BT side, with mobile and bike computer it works perfectly well.
Thanks mate. If one is on a budget the Bryton is good. They are still a ways off. I will still go with my Garmin. I found the Bryton GPS to be a bit off.
I've got a lezyne which seems to have similar features to the bryton and similar price point. Very robust construction - rated as one of toughest gps, about 30hrs battery, but unique locking system so not compatible with Garmin. Good app for programming and connecting. Useful features include a beacon so people can follow your progress live, on screen messages, live Strava segments, integration with a bunch of other fitness/recording apps, Bluetooth and ant+, dozens of screen combination and data options. More expensive ones have colour screens and on screen map navigation, cheaper ones just have breadcrumb and turn by turn (for pre loaded routes). Smallish side mounted buttons so full gloves can make them hard to press. Also very good free support through their help desk. Most annoying thing is the screens cycle through every 10 secs or so and you can't lock them, although this has been changed one latest more premium models (they were very blunt about not doing a firmware upgrade)
I have the exact same model.. Overall, excellent unit, with the only issue is if it rains steadily, not heavily, bit constant, the altitude feature wjen climbing freezes.. Extremely disappointing.. If ride where it's routinely wet, don't get one.. Sorry the only gripe
A friend of mine has a Bryton, it has issues with the GPS but I don't consider that a big deal, for the rest apparently it is well, however I believe that one's perfecto for those who make 1 hour or 2 hours rides, if you're into long rides 70+ km, or 4+ hours I believe the best option is the Garmin in any of it's references, indeed I'm team Garmin.
The Bryton sells itself as a GPS bike computer, but the simple fact is that the GPS doesn’t work and will get you lost going from point A to point B on a straight road. Yes you can connect all your sensors and it provides you plenty of ride metrics, uploads to Strava etc.. but there’s a plethora of cycle computers on the market which will do exactly the same, but for a fraction of the price.
I have an old ride 40 it is roughly 6 years old the battery still lasts 8 or so hours it also only has 6 metrics on the screen at any time but you can page through them all if you want. I love mine but a few weeks ago the twist lock broke on one side I done a hack on it to replace it but cut the buzzer off it lol apart from no buzzer it still works lol I will be looking another one this winter maybe Santa could bring me one 🤔 🤣😂
I wouldn't state not having a touchscreen is unfortunate. My Garmin 830 is a touchscreen which makes me wish I would have purchased the 530 instead. It starts to go haywire when sweat drips onto the screen. If I touch the screen with wet fingers after wiping sweat from my eyes the thing won't do what I want. I've gotten so mad at it at times I've wanted to just throw it as far as I can. I had a Wahoo Elemnt before and it gave me issues too when navigating. The 830 has features that I can't imagine why they were included in a cycling computer but at the time of purchase I paid the premium for that just in case moment. I can say battery life is fantastic because I can ride for more than 2 hours and it will only drain down to 97%.
I bought a karoo 2 on payments. Then had the strokes. I've been religiously updating it every time a new update comes, salivating at the thought of getting out. Looks like the payments will be complete before I can test it and get back on the bike for any real riding
Two years ago I bought a used Garmin Edge 810 for $63. Does everything I would need including, most importantly, my Varia radar. My rides are almost always around 4hrs and battery life is about 50% at the end of my ride. Should I ever need a replace,ent I’d not hesitate to purchase a good used Garmin again.
I had a Giant Neostrack (essentially a rebadged Bryton 530 apparently) for about 2 years, an amazing unit. Switched to a Garmin Edge 530 when I sold my Giant bike, but probably wouldn't have switched should it not have been Giant branded.
Us cyclists just love our countryside gates 😏😁😁 The more I watch cycle computer vlogs the more I’m convinced I’ll stick to my iPhone XR and quadlock mounts. 👍🙂 I use a Dynamo and sinewave revolution USB charger on my bikepacking bike so phone is always charged. On my road/endurance/long distance bike I’m always using a small top tube back/frame bag so keeping my phone charged is not a problem either. Unless a person races, I can’t see why a phone is not all you need. 😏😏😊
Do any phone apps include watts sensor? It would be nice to have watts without buying entire bike computer. The basics, except rpm, a watch or cheap hiker GPS can perform.
@@MK-rn2hm @M K that's all I have right now. Sometimes it goes high too easy and other days stays down even if trying harder. So watts would be nice. The money had long held me off. I would have thought that tech would have gotten cheaper but no.
I had a Rider 330 for a bit, super cheap paired with sensors fine, did WiFi direct uploading and the main thing I bought it for was the battery life which exceeded Garmin by miles... Unfortunately I found the Bryton app you needed to use to set it up frustrating and badly designed, the unit decided to double my cadence at one point, it then managed to lose a couple of rider's and then couldn't upload for a couple of months without any support or backup from Bryton... The computer itself was fine, the.main feature I was interested in, the battery life, was excellent. But all the other issues sadly drove me back to Garmin (who certainly aren't perfect either). If Bryton ever improve the "back end" their app and web support I'd certainly be interested in them again but based on my first go with their products currently I'd advise others to avoid them.
Looks very similar to my Giant Neostrack which I've been using for about a year with absolutely no issues. I don't use it for navigation as my smart phone and komoot does that way better ( phone is mounted to my stem) but it links faultlessly to my Garmin speed sensor. My Garmin ralley power meter and my HRM. Thanks for sharing
Aw come on. Karoo, like most, works just fine 80% of the time. It is critical to know what one needs a bike computer for, as "feature creep" impairs reliable use, across the board. Collecting data and uploading to Golden Cheetah with the Bryton and your phone may do most of what is needed. None are totally graceful. Where some focus, is the fixation on social media.
It does have a lot of features for its price point (the gearing screen being a particularly nice one) but the proprietary fitting mount instead of just going with the standard Garmin style makes it a no no for me.
Hi Leonard, this looks interesting. I don't know much about bike computers. I just use my Garmin GPS eTrex.Does the cadence sensor come with the Bryton or does it have to be bought separately. I've just taken up cycling again, since June, after god knows how long, at 71. Really good channel. I ride my 31 yo retro mountain bike and am having a great time!
I was wondering whether a cycle computer would help be on a cycle tour for a few days. This is the third or fourth video I have started watching, only to find cyclists don’t seem to be interested in getting about, just in cadence and heartrate and stuff, and of course finding out how many miles they cycled yesterday, none of which I need to know. Harder to find stuff out than I thought.
A question. Can you pause a ride, turn off the unit, then turn back on and continue with the same ride much in the way you would if you were stopping for a coffee
Aaah but does a Bryton measure your stiffy as you descend out of the clouds into the warm arms of a coffee shop. Its the edge/Fenix all the way for me. Mine even shouts at me to go to bed and stop watching UA-cam.
Garmin 530 is great and gives me massive confidence for long rides even on hot days. Also a 10Ah rechargeable pack in a waterproof case. I’ve spent more on my rear wheel than my 530 thanks to supplychain issues
I am using a Briton Rider 15, even more entry level but does exactly the same things. After 3 years of daily use the battery is starting to fade and it has started freezing on me from time to time mid-ride, so I am looking for a replacement. Will stick with Bryton, just not sure what model. Have you got any tips?
Ah shoot, I’m mainly looking for a navigation device to replace my phone with so it seems this might not be ideal for me. Still a very helpful review though, thank you!
For navigation the Hammerhead Karoo2 is absolutley amazing. I can only compare to the Garmin Edge 830 and it was far far superior in terms of knowing where you want to go, making it clear and routing you quickly if you go off course. It's Garmin prices so not cheap I've had mine since Decemer last year and love it.
The last thing I want is somebody disturbing/destroying my bike ride sending an e-mail or text message that I can't read anyway. 99,9999999% of them I won't be able to respond on properly, even if I could have read it. When I'm riding my phone is on "quiet"
Take a look on 3d printing sites , fairly sure somebody has thought of it. Then print it or find someone to print it for you. I printed a 2nd wahoo mount myself.
Meters mean less to me after many decades of cycling. What I feel and what I can drive are matter now. In basic meters speed is dominant value in screen and is meaningless. The speed cameras can not catch you anyway.
That flaky route finder and no maps was the deal breaker for me I'm afraid. I'm watching for Beeline's Velo 2 as my first cycling computer. The Velo has been out for a while now and attracts good reviews - the Velo 2 promises to build on that. Have you got any knowledge of Beeline products Leonard?
my battery on my karoo 2 lasts most of the day using mapping only
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I had one. Fortunately I could return it in Decathlon. Poor GPR accuracy, poor app, poor interface. At least price was little enough, but still not worth that.
The Bryton Rider 420 is far, far from being entry level, it's £130, and about level 5, there are Bryton computers for 40-50-60 and the Bryton 320 is for £80! Of course if you wanna spend £130 on a cycling computer go ahead, but it's not and entry level computer as you mentioned it several times!
With high end cycling computers costing as much as £450- 500, I would say it’s fairly budget for its functionality. Of course, if you don’t want GPS, navigation HR, cadence, etc there are cycling computers for under £10 on Amazon.
I have this and my advice is as follows regarding downloading a route: 1. Use Komoot (free)or Strava (paid version) to create and download a route. The Bryton active app is terrible for route creation! Don’t count on using it for this purpose. 2. Make sure your route is tagged as “public” in Strava. Otherwise it will not download! Be sure to set up your device for auto synch with Strava and Komoot. It’s a good computer with excellent sunlight readability and battery life. If you don’t need mapping (or use your smartphone with mapsme, of Google this is a good choice. The instructions supplied with unit are terrible, and the app suffered from bugs , but it now works in Android. It doesn’t send your position to Bryton and Android 12 can disable it. Manufacturer videos are also out of date.
Once you create a route and use the smartphone app to encode the turns it will create a new file (with file name ending-1, and showing a small green symbol on the route icon) and it is this file you send to your 420 unit. (nowhere to be explained by Bryton!) When it has been loaded, you no longer need the smartphone on for turn-by-turn directions. The unit will beep before a turn and tell you which way to turn. It works reasonably well in rural environments but the gps and map data are not sensitive enough for small street blocks in an urban environment. Overall, it can be useful, and sufficient if you have a detailed off line map on your phone as a backup.
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I've had my Bryton bike computer for 3 years and love it. It has been reliable, gives me all the information I need and easy to see details on the screen when riding. Battery life between charges is around 30hours although I recharge mine after every second ride. Would I buy another one in the future ... Absolutely!
do you use cadence and speed sensors, if so, which one?
I'm a Wahoo man, just got the latest version. It works great! Ride on.😎
From where I am from, I have checked and the price for a Bryton cyclocomp isn't what we can call as a budget cyclocomp. One brand in particular that I've found reliable, durable, have a very long battery life and very budget friendly is the XOSS G+ which you can connect to a speed/cadence sensor and heart monitor and can also upload your activities to Strava.
I've had the 420 for over a year, now with their latest firmware update it's flawless, follow track (breadcrumbs) works very well. 70+ data fields
I know a cycling computer is a trend. I use my cellphone with Google maps, and I never take the wrong turn. Battery lasts forever and if needed to charge it I simply stop at a restaurant and charge it while filling up my bottles with ice cubes and water. For the rest of the data an affordable computer with a battery that lasts years is a better option and they are very affordable.
Hi Leonard
I have had my Bryton Rider 50 for about 8 years with hrm and cadence. Still works perfectly fine for me although not quite as sophisticated as new models (ie. no wi fi to computer) So on my own experience I can highly recommend Bryton.
Just watched your latest you tube film so hope everything goes well for you with just income from you tube. Hopefully more manufacturers will approach you to test and review their products. Sometimes they seem to forget that most cyclists are middle / old aged are not competitive but just enjoy riding. As for me will be 65 in a couple of weeks and retiring from the grind. Looking forward to more cycling in the Derbyshire Peak District. Ps it is not called the Peak District because it is flat. Special thanks to your wife in supporting you through theses difficult times.
Yes, she has been extremely supportive; and not just over the last 20 months.
Hi Leonard, thanks for your review of the Bryton bike computer. I wasn't aware of the brand. Looking at their prices on line they really do look like quality products and very good value for the money.
I was in the market for a bike computer a few weeks ago and was considering the Karoo. I saw some of the issues you were having so decided to get the new wahoo bolt and I love it. Without your videos I might have made a mistakes so thanks Mike 😃
I’ve had good success with entry level Bryton units too. Passed one along to a beginning rider who still uses it. I like Lezyne a little better. Still much lower than a Wahoo or a Garmin, but well featured, 20+ hr battery life and all the features.
My first ‘real bike gps’ was a ‘Bryton Ryder’. We both took a real hammering one day in a really heavy downpour and I could have cried when it stopped working. We had done a fair few kilometres together. It was my pride & joy.
The App worked great too.
I replaced it with a Garmin Edge 200 off ‘fleabay’ only to find out that my HRM didn’t work with it.
It worked with the Bryton.
Had a 420 for 2yrs and it’s great value for money. Does everything attaches easily to sensors. You can even save a new route you do with friends then upload it and reuse it gain with navigation later on. Battery life is ace never had it run out - longer side 103 miles 6hrs with navigation in use, heart monitor and cadence❤️😀👍
Last month my Wahoo roam gave up. I have been using another entry level computer the Magene c406: for Sunday clubruns and other rides that I do not need navigation, this is fine and I will continue to use it for such purposes as the battery life is so good. I will be replacing my Wahoo for Touring. Having a cheap standby computer also increases the life of an expensive one as it it doesn't need to be used as much.
Entry level units are getting so good, the only reason you'd need a higher level computer would be navigation, and these even include breadcrumb navigation which can be good enough for some people, which is amazing itself.
Great video, got a very basic Bryton rider15 as a present 2 years ago, absolutely love it, great stat's, uploads to strava, fantastic battery life. No need for anything else, when it does eventually give up the ghost will look at replacing with the same.
I bought a Magene C406 with Magene H603 HR along with their Speed and Cadence sensors and it's a great combo. Works flawlessly all the time. All this for well under $200.00 CDN. I've been out in pouring rain on many occasion and or very wet road and have had no issues. It's a great system and gives more than enough data including temperature.
Is it touch screen or buttons only ? Thanks
Got a hardly used Edge Explore for £90. Came with a cover, screen protector and a proper mounting bracket. Been good, had it a year. Good for 100 mile range, and uses only a tiny fraction of a phone, so easy to top up. The Best thing is the big coloured screen for nav. The detailed maps also have many things like shops, petrol stations, parks etc. It re-routes if get off course. Also, live tracking via phone.
I have the 420 and love it. I found the turn guidance, which can be displayed as a metric on any screen, better than the breadcrumbs.
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I love my Bryton Rider 750. (Most of the time!). Another great vid from Leonardo 👍🏼
I've heard good things about their top-flight Bryton 750 which has Garmin like navigation for around £200-£250. The new Sigma ROX range looks interesting as well for a budget GPS computer.
You're lucky to be able to try these out. I love cycle tech and being able to compare different GPS must be very interesting.
Thanks for the review! I've been looking at cycling computers for a while now. I don't really ride far enough or long enough to really need one yet but I'll keep this in mind when I get one.
James. Take a look at the Xoss cycle computer. It costs about £35 and does everything that you need. I've had mine since June and it's been excellent. Extremely long battery life, good clear screen that works during the day and lights up at night. Take a look. You wont be dissappointed or skint....
I've always used a Bryton 530 and enjoy it. I've had issues with the app map function and had trouble getting customer service. I've also had to do a factory reset to resolve an issue.
Great review, told me everything I wanted to know about a budget cycling computer Thanks Leonard.
The 420 might be the best bargain unit on the market right now. I found it for under $100 bux shipped, and find the feature set to be the best at the price point..
Nice little gadget! But you can even go cheaper: I have a Xoss G+, which you can get for about 40€ without sensors. It has LCD and 2 buttons (only) but HR, Speed, Cadence via ANT+ or BT GPS (no navigation, only tracking and speed). No Powermeter function. It has its shortcomings, but battery time is gigantic! And it has an app for setups, Data storage and connection to strava and others.
Also I know many people, that use a wahoo or similar, but they keep an extra Xoss just for spare, just in case the "Big Guy" has malfunctions or been forgotten to charge...
I'm been using a Bryton 320 since April 2021, my Garmin 520+ dies after 5 hours. I got the 320 since I don't need the mapping functions. I love having not to worry about my 6+ hour rides not recording anymore. I got friend a Bryton 15 for her birthday since it has GPS and basic functions that was all she wanted.
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You found Bryton! Sometimes the app has an update and breaks. Most recently for 2 or so weeks. But they did fix it. The basic computer is great. Battery, as you say, is fantastic. My 410 died after 2 years of use. That may have been due to bad charging practice though. And I was able to replace it. Don't know if a 420 could be cracked open.
I just don't understand why people want all that date! I ride a few thousand miles a year and have no need to know whether my left leg is producing more power than my right 😂
My Vette VR 100 has over 54,000 miles on it! Takes one little 2025 battery about every other year.
Button control is NOT a bad thing. In pouring rain, touchscreens pick up raindrop impacts and the unit navigates itself to a mess.
Top Tip for touchscreen bike computer ( and Garmin Oregon ). Find a clear plastic bottle that fits over the unit. Take a small pair of scissors and trim the clear plastic bottle to fit over the unit. A Rainshield.
For Garmin Oregon, the bottle is a Johnson's Baby Oil 200ml.
Garmin Oregon is 2 x AA cells. I use Li-Ion 3500mAhr. With 30% backlight, recording and navigating, the unit lasts 6 1/2 hours.
I take 4 x spare cells in a plastic battery case. All cells are numbered to avoid confusion. 3 sets of cells can get me comfortably through a 200km Audax. A 300km if I spend less time at the cafes.
Thanks Leonardo. I’m using an old edition Garmin Edge given to me by a friend, for which I’m very grateful. It does the job but I’m fighting the urge to get a ‘better’ bike computer. Don’t know that I need to go all-singing, all-dancing however….. I’ll take a look at the one you show here.
The Xoss G+ isn't a bad option and is half the price if you don't need all-singing and dancing. £149.95 isn't that much cheaper than a Garmin Edge 530.
I have had this bryton rider 420 for the last 3 months and I love it! I came from a cheaper bike computer which was such a hassle to use compared to this. However I have to say I don't really like their mobile app because it doesn't really let me analyze my data and doesn't tell what my data means.
I have various Bryton devices (Rider 330, 530, 450) on my entire fleet of bikes. They have worked admirably for many years. Only the 530’s battery degraded and it could not hold its charge so I decommissioned that device. I have reached out to customer support on several occasions and they have responded promptly.
Had the same problem with my 530, battery fade away and did not hold the power for more then 3 minutes at the end. Opened the unit to find out what kind of battery I need. Bought a Lithium Polymer LiPo Batterie Akku 1000mAh 503450 3.7 V 1S PCB BMS 21on Ebay, old one has only 850? mAh. Took a little bit of fine solding but now the unit works well again :-) Sadly the WiFi syncronization does not work now but transfer by bluetooth still okay
@@sportbootjo When the battery died in mine, I contacted Bryton and, as I mentioned earlier, they were very prompt to reply with assistance. The replacement battery from them would have cost $29 plus shipping and I was already thinking of upgrading to the 450 model so I simply passed.
I had a fairly cheap Garmin computer for 5 years, it cost around £70 I think and also did breadcrumb routes. It was OK but really frustrating as I had the same issues you had when you get to junctions, just not clear where to go. It was also a really basic device
I upgraded last week to a Wahoo Elemnt Roam. Cost £300 but the maps are amazing, you get place names, nearby roads, a feature to take you home, lots of data you can look at, elevation maps to show what's coming up and what grade hill you're on.
We have several IG sport ig20se units,have been very good the only drawback is only kph no mph and only basic GPS and manual connection but for bread and butter fit files for Strava and a peanut price great
Great info! It always looks like your going at a good speed 👍🏻
I have this unit and it's very good. Only gripe is the route planning on the app is too fiddly. However, I simply use another app and then load the gpx files on to my Bryton.
Hv used bryton for the 3 yrs. Will upgrade with another bryton. Good GPS bike computer. Kriss. Kenya
I’ve had two of these devices and the processor packed up just after a couple months use on the two of them
Wow yea awesome bit of kit I had the old bryton rider 35 loved it but upgraded to garmin 810 but that 420 looks good as a backup unit
Naaaa... some of us just ride. And we soon learn to sense our mileage. Been that way for 65-years for me :-) One's mirror & scale should reveal all the details one wishes to know, for the bicycling lifestyle. And your happy attitude (hopefully) :-)
My Bryton420 has frozen up on hot long rides (85+ degrees Fahrenheit and 65 mile or longer rides) but it normally runs good on long rides as long as it's not hot out
I'm rocking on XOSS G+. that is the best value and superb basic computer.
PS: I can only afford that. Lol
I have Bryton 320 with set of meters, quite nice. Just HRM has an issue with PC connection to Zwift, but it is more on PC BT side, with mobile and bike computer it works perfectly well.
Still love my Ryder 15. Always trying to keep costs down.
Thanks mate. If one is on a budget the Bryton is good. They are still a ways off. I will still go with my Garmin. I found the Bryton GPS to be a bit off.
You have such wonderful roads in Britain.
I've got a lezyne which seems to have similar features to the bryton and similar price point. Very robust construction - rated as one of toughest gps, about 30hrs battery, but unique locking system so not compatible with Garmin. Good app for programming and connecting.
Useful features include a beacon so people can follow your progress live, on screen messages, live Strava segments, integration with a bunch of other fitness/recording apps, Bluetooth and ant+, dozens of screen combination and data options. More expensive ones have colour screens and on screen map navigation, cheaper ones just have breadcrumb and turn by turn (for pre loaded routes). Smallish side mounted buttons so full gloves can make them hard to press.
Also very good free support through their help desk.
Most annoying thing is the screens cycle through every 10 secs or so and you can't lock them, although this has been changed one latest more premium models (they were very blunt about not doing a firmware upgrade)
I was having battery issues with my old garmin edge 820. I have had the battery changed it seems much better.
I have been using this bike computer for over a year. I have a very detailed video on this.
I have the exact same model.. Overall, excellent unit, with the only issue is if it rains steadily, not heavily, bit constant, the altitude feature wjen climbing freezes.. Extremely disappointing.. If ride where it's routinely wet, don't get one.. Sorry the only gripe
A friend of mine has a Bryton, it has issues with the GPS but I don't consider that a big deal, for the rest apparently it is well, however I believe that one's perfecto for those who make 1 hour or 2 hours rides, if you're into long rides 70+ km, or 4+ hours I believe the best option is the Garmin in any of it's references, indeed I'm team Garmin.
The Bryton sells itself as a GPS bike computer, but the simple fact is that the GPS doesn’t work and will get you lost going from point A to point B on a straight road. Yes you can connect all your sensors and it provides you plenty of ride metrics, uploads to Strava etc.. but there’s a plethora of cycle computers on the market which will do exactly the same, but for a fraction of the price.
I have an old ride 40 it is roughly 6 years old the battery still lasts 8 or so hours it also only has 6 metrics on the screen at any time but you can page through them all if you want. I love mine but a few weeks ago the twist lock broke on one side I done a hack on it to replace it but cut the buzzer off it lol apart from no buzzer it still works lol I will be looking another one this winter maybe Santa could bring me one 🤔 🤣😂
It does everything I would want it to do, and a nice price too.
I wouldn't state not having a touchscreen is unfortunate. My Garmin 830 is a touchscreen which makes me wish I would have purchased the 530 instead. It starts to go haywire when sweat drips onto the screen. If I touch the screen with wet fingers after wiping sweat from my eyes the thing won't do what I want. I've gotten so mad at it at times I've wanted to just throw it as far as I can. I had a Wahoo Elemnt before and it gave me issues too when navigating. The 830 has features that I can't imagine why they were included in a cycling computer but at the time of purchase I paid the premium for that just in case moment. I can say battery life is fantastic because I can ride for more than 2 hours and it will only drain down to 97%.
I bought a karoo 2 on payments. Then had the strokes.
I've been religiously updating it every time a new update comes, salivating at the thought of getting out.
Looks like the payments will be complete before I can test it and get back on the bike for any real riding
Thank you Shane uk 🇬🇧
Two years ago I bought a used Garmin Edge 810 for $63. Does everything I would need including, most importantly, my Varia radar. My rides are almost always around 4hrs and battery life is about 50% at the end of my ride.
Should I ever need a replace,ent I’d not hesitate to purchase a good used Garmin again.
Where could I get a good deal on a used garmin?
@@musinguzimark2012 I purchased mine from eBay. Took me a while to find one at a good price.
@@kge420 You sure got a super deal.I will keep looking
I had a Giant Neostrack (essentially a rebadged Bryton 530 apparently) for about 2 years, an amazing unit. Switched to a Garmin Edge 530 when I sold my Giant bike, but probably wouldn't have switched should it not have been Giant branded.
Us cyclists just love our countryside gates 😏😁😁
The more I watch cycle computer vlogs the more I’m convinced I’ll stick to my iPhone XR and quadlock mounts. 👍🙂
I use a Dynamo and sinewave revolution USB charger on my bikepacking bike so phone is always charged. On my road/endurance/long distance bike I’m always using a small top tube back/frame bag so keeping my phone charged is not a problem either.
Unless a person races, I can’t see why a phone is not all you need. 😏😏😊
A phone is all you will ever need.
Do any phone apps include watts sensor? It would be nice to have watts without buying entire bike computer. The basics, except rpm, a watch or cheap hiker GPS can perform.
@@stevek8829 I don’t think so. Maybe the Garmin watches have them. My best watts sensors are my heart rate. It never lies…😀
@@MK-rn2hm @M K that's all I have right now. Sometimes it goes high too easy and other days stays down even if trying harder. So watts would be nice. The money had long held me off. I would have thought that tech would have gotten cheaper but no.
@@stevek8829 My dilemma exactly. Stay safe
I had a Rider 330 for a bit, super cheap paired with sensors fine, did WiFi direct uploading and the main thing I bought it for was the battery life which exceeded Garmin by miles... Unfortunately I found the Bryton app you needed to use to set it up frustrating and badly designed, the unit decided to double my cadence at one point, it then managed to lose a couple of rider's and then couldn't upload for a couple of months without any support or backup from Bryton...
The computer itself was fine, the.main feature I was interested in, the battery life, was excellent. But all the other issues sadly drove me back to Garmin (who certainly aren't perfect either). If Bryton ever improve the "back end" their app and web support I'd certainly be interested in them again but based on my first go with their products currently I'd advise others to avoid them.
Looks very similar to my Giant Neostrack which I've been using for about a year with absolutely no issues.
I don't use it for navigation as my smart phone and komoot does that way better ( phone is mounted to my stem) but it links faultlessly to my Garmin speed sensor. My Garmin ralley power meter and my HRM.
Thanks for sharing
Garmin edge 130 is a great budget option too
@ $200? come on.
You can get them on eBay for £60. They're very good.
The US link takes you to the 320E not the 420. At least it does for me..
Aw come on. Karoo, like most, works just fine 80% of the time.
It is critical to know what one needs a bike computer for, as "feature creep" impairs reliable use, across the board.
Collecting data and uploading to Golden Cheetah with the Bryton and your phone may do most of what is needed.
None are totally graceful. Where some focus, is the fixation on social media.
It does have a lot of features for its price point (the gearing screen being a particularly nice one) but the proprietary fitting mount instead of just going with the standard Garmin style makes it a no no for me.
Garmin mount was designed for watches and has issues with anything bigger and heavier.
I use a ride 40 older model it works with any Garmin mount I have
@@whazzat8015 I'm using an XOSS G+ head unit in one and haven't had any problems thankfully.
My Bryton rider 750 works fine in my Topeak branded mount designed for a Garmin
Hi Leonard, this looks interesting. I don't know much about bike computers. I just use my Garmin GPS eTrex.Does the cadence sensor come with the Bryton or does it have to be bought separately.
I've just taken up cycling again, since June, after god knows how long, at 71. Really good channel. I ride my 31 yo retro mountain bike and am having a great time!
I was wondering whether a cycle computer would help be on a cycle tour for a few days.
This is the third or fourth video I have started watching, only to find cyclists don’t seem to be interested in getting about, just in cadence and heartrate and stuff, and of course finding out how many miles they cycled yesterday, none of which I need to know.
Harder to find stuff out than I thought.
You don't have a fully aero bike nor deep carbon rims and not even electronic gears. How on earth do you cope with rides longer than 10miles?
A question. Can you pause a ride, turn off the unit, then turn back on and continue with the same ride much in the way you would if you were stopping for a coffee
I would imagine so, although I have not tested it. Most cycling computers can.
Aaah but does a Bryton measure your stiffy as you descend out of the clouds into the warm arms of a coffee shop. Its the edge/Fenix all the way for me. Mine even shouts at me to go to bed and stop watching UA-cam.
Garmin 530 is great and gives me massive confidence for long rides even on hot days.
Also a 10Ah rechargeable pack in a waterproof case.
I’ve spent more on my rear wheel than my 530 thanks to supplychain issues
More fun with a basic cycle computer and a map!
I am using a Briton Rider 15, even more entry level but does exactly the same things. After 3 years of daily use the battery is starting to fade and it has started freezing on me from time to time mid-ride, so I am looking for a replacement. Will stick with Bryton, just not sure what model. Have you got any tips?
How does this compare the the Shanren Miles bike computer. Which would be good for a beginner if you had to choose one?
Ah shoot, I’m mainly looking for a navigation device to replace my phone with so it seems this might not be ideal for me. Still a very helpful review though, thank you!
phone may still be the best bet.
@@whazzat8015 phone for what GPS?
Get the rider 750, has proper turn by turn
For navigation the Hammerhead Karoo2 is absolutley amazing. I can only compare to the Garmin Edge 830 and it was far far superior in terms of knowing where you want to go, making it clear and routing you quickly if you go off course. It's Garmin prices so not cheap I've had mine since Decemer last year and love it.
Bryton Rider 750. Voice activated nav, touch screen, colour map....
Hi. My bryton 420 suddenly started showing date and time from 2015! I have failed to find a way to get the dates and time to present.
Strange!
The last thing I want is somebody disturbing/destroying my bike ride sending an e-mail or text message that I can't read anyway. 99,9999999% of them I won't be able to respond on properly, even if I could have read it. When I'm riding my phone is on "quiet"
I need to look into this. My Garmin 520 battery life stinks.
What mount do you use? I've been looking for one that works with my light and wahoo. 🙂
Take a look on 3d printing sites , fairly sure somebody has thought of it. Then print it or find someone to print it for you. I printed a 2nd wahoo mount myself.
@@srvaughan2502 cheers for that, I'll have a look.
Meters mean less to me after many decades of cycling. What I feel and what I can drive are matter now. In basic meters speed is dominant value in screen and is meaningless. The speed cameras can not catch you anyway.
such a good unit.
I'm not impressed with touch screen on my Garmin.
In heavy rain it's impossible to change screens and at some other times it has a mind of its own
i thought you were financial advise channel like graham stephan from the thumnail
That flaky route finder and no maps was the deal breaker for me I'm afraid. I'm watching for Beeline's Velo 2 as my first cycling computer. The Velo has been out for a while now and attracts good reviews - the Velo 2 promises to build on that. Have you got any knowledge of Beeline products Leonard?
my battery on my karoo 2 lasts most of the day using mapping only
I had one. Fortunately I could return it in Decathlon. Poor GPR accuracy, poor app, poor interface. At least price was little enough, but still not worth that.
The Bryton Rider 420 is far, far from being entry level, it's £130, and about level 5, there are Bryton computers for 40-50-60 and the Bryton 320 is for £80! Of course if you wanna spend £130 on a cycling computer go ahead, but it's not and entry level computer as you mentioned it several times!
Can you pair Polar HR sensors?
If they are ANT+ is should pair.
@@jollygoodvelo Bought the Polar M460 instead. Safer option.
I'm not sure what you class as a budget cycle computer.. this is not a budget one.. its £150 at best ??
With high end cycling computers costing as much as £450- 500, I would say it’s fairly budget for its functionality. Of course, if you don’t want GPS, navigation HR, cadence, etc there are cycling computers for under £10 on Amazon.
Thx but ill stick to my Wahoo Bolt
hi could you show on a vid how to download a route onto it
I’ll see what I can do.
@@jollygoodvelo that would be amazing if you get the time. I'm clueless how to do it x
I have this and my advice is as follows regarding downloading a route:
1. Use Komoot (free)or Strava (paid version) to create and download a route. The Bryton active app is terrible for route creation! Don’t count on using it for this purpose.
2. Make sure your route is tagged as “public” in Strava. Otherwise it will not download! Be sure to set up your device for auto synch with Strava and Komoot.
It’s a good computer with excellent sunlight readability and battery life. If you don’t need mapping (or use your smartphone with mapsme, of Google this is a good choice. The instructions supplied with unit are terrible, and the app suffered from bugs , but it now works in Android. It doesn’t send your position to Bryton and Android 12 can disable it. Manufacturer videos are also out of date.
@@bengt_axle thanks 👍😁
Once you create a route and use the smartphone app to encode the turns it will create a new file (with file name ending-1, and showing a small green symbol on the route icon) and it is this file you send to your 420 unit. (nowhere to be explained by Bryton!) When it has been loaded, you no longer need the smartphone on for turn-by-turn directions. The unit will beep before a turn and tell you which way to turn. It works reasonably well in rural environments but the gps and map data are not sensitive enough for small street blocks in an urban environment. Overall, it can be useful, and sufficient if you have a detailed off line map on your phone as a backup.
Might try this with my MTB.. how can I buy one of these.. haven't seen any in my local bike shops
Hey Jamie, there are some links in the description
Seen that, thanks
The processor is very slow on bryton computer’s
The price of excellent battery life.
Doh why do you need a digital gear indicator.
Cadence and experience is all you need. Omg
All gear no idea
It’s called progress but maybe that hasn’t quite reached the experienced penny farthing riders yet.
ah finally, something that I can afford 🤣
I have the same computer 87 pounds from amazon bargain five pounds for a gel cover and screen protector from ebay
Looks like a winner! Thanks
Di di ypu through away your hammerhead karoo???😱
Cheaper is always better
I just use my phone it tells me all I want to know.