While working on this video, we found some interesting facts on the age of consent today in different countries - in some, it is as low as 11 years, and in others as high as 21. India's own trajectory of the age of consent goes to show how it depends on cultural context, and also on how perceptions change with time. What do you think?
@@hardeeprajput6564 thats cruel problems are meant to be solved dude i just dont understand how u could be soo rude i mean i get it but traditions that bring humanity in a person down should be fixed in any place of world.
@sai maharaj everyone already knows a statement comes with inbuilt disclaimer that it's "not all ___" and generalization is done for the sake of simplicity. No need to act like a yesteryear lad. And thanks for pointing out that I stated the obvious - Patriarchy is evil. No matter how much it is reiterated, it still meets people who are disturbed by Feminists overthrowing patriarchy. Your reaction was like that
@@maha_sage it's common sense at this point that when we say men we don't mean all men. but I think those who still feel the need to point out "not all men" are absolutely those men.
@sai maharaj And here I am, giving him/her a pat on the back. Also, what are you trying to prove by saying what's already true? Everybody knows that not all men bad and not all women are sweet angels.
@5 G Thank you for prompting me to read further on this topic. I did find many articles on Garbhadhan and Menstruation (Rajodarshan in most cases) for ex: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Garbhadhan_(astrology) , en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Garbhadhana , www.sanatan.org/en/a/105764.html , hindi.webdunia.com/astrology-articles/garbha-dhan-sanskar-118042000025_1.html). But yes, I do not feel Child Marriage is a part of our Sanskars. Maybe that tradition began to "protect" young girls at the time of invasions (Though I do not know much about what happened during invasions). I'm open to further reading if you have more.
dis video makes me feel so sad and dissapointed for all dose women back in d day .They werent even women they were just kids and had to go through so much for d sake of our so called "culture nd heritage " .Truly dissapointed .
You can find similar kind of thing there is an act called venereal diseases act introduced by the British.A book called"The queen's daughters in India" explains in detail www.gutenberg.org/files/47288/47288-h/47288-h.htm
Religion was made by man... Humans weren't made by religion. This habit of justifying every horrible act towards women, children, even men and animals with the farce of religion, has to stop. This can only happen if humans care more about protecting humanity rather than religion.
Perfect! All damn systems,religions ,traditions ,festivals are designed by humans. It was meant to be for our convinience. If people are using for exploitation it is our responsibilty to break the wheel.
When I researched on the topic 'why Marital rape is still not criminalazed in India?', I found such ridiculous statements in the Name of "Indian Culture" stating why Marital rape should not be criminalized. Seriously what's wrong with these people?. RAPE IS RAPE. Hiding behind excuses like 'oh it will damage the concept of family, marriage, trust in partners, how will men prove their innocence'. Face the reality, however you call it, Without consent or under threat forced intercourse is RAPE. Thank you for creating awareness on such important topics.
@5 G should there be a reason to deny sex? ‘I don’t want to have sex’ is reason enough. When the other person does NOT want to have sex, FORCING them to have sex in any way causes mental and emotional trauma to them. Do you ever think about that? Or do you always only think about yourself? Maybe that’s why couples should talk about all of this BEFORE they tie the knot so the husband/wife is secure in knowing that sexual intercourse will be provided to them whenever they desire it coz even their partner wants it. Understand the difference between wanting and giving. YOU are the person who WANTS...the person has to GIVE. In Indian culture, the giver is always given more importance and hence, whatever they want goes. Also not allowing sexual jntervourse is grounds for immediate divorce. So if the husband is not satisfied with how much he is getting, he has all the power to leave his wife. And the wife should be ok with that. Coz if she doesn’t love him enough to even sleep with him...why is she with him. Sex might not be an important part of a relationship...but it is a cornerstone. If she is withholding sex...there’s some deeper problem in the marriage. And it’s better to call it off than stretch it and torture each other!
@5 G Your reasoning is laughable. What should be considered as 'Valid Reason' for refusing sex?. And if your only point regarding sex is 'Sex is biological need' please consider, Are you a being with 6 senses or being with 5 or less senses. Because they are the only one focus only biological needs and functions. Because they don't have self awareness. Even in animals and birds unwilling partner will deny if it's not interested. Refusing to have sex is within her rights even if she doesn't give reason. If the husband don't like that , they both can have a talk like, you know adults and decide what further steps should be taken in their life. Forcing and compelling uninterested partner is called ABUSE. Forcing what you think is right on your partner is ABUSE. Thinking only about yourself and your mental health and emotional health is also ABUSE in a relationship. Just Because you are in a relationship doesn't mean you are owed a woman's body or sex.
@@srinaveena8699 Rights doesn't mean anything without duties also your right is subjective to the rights provided to other as well.Marital rape wherever it has been legalized has only reduced marriage rates.In US already because of feminism marriage rates have gone down the gutter.Only Islam will grow in the future There are many things which are forced on men as well.Erection of penis is not a valid consent for example as given by Supreme consent and declaring someone rapist based on looks is in itself controversial.A woman declare a man to be rapist just because she doesn't like his looks or if he doesn't agree with her.Such law can be be misused.If such a law is brought there will be an open gender war
@@Udta_teer_leliya Every law can be misused. We have to be the one to make sure that the law can't be misused. Saying 'this can be misused so we shouldn't pass the law' is not reasonable. Your logic can be applied to every other law. So what is your reply to that?. That we shouldn't pass this because it can be misused??.. And so what if marriage rate is reduced?. There is no logic in saying we have higher marriage rate if there is no value in that family. Don't blame feminism for this. If people realised and asking equality for both partners in a marriage, that's basic human decency. Don't blame religion. I am talking as a human being who is asking equality for both spouses. And let's not deny the fact in a marriage a man can be raped as well. It's not a 'woman' issue. It's about breach of human rights of a spouse in marriage. Gender based stereotypes exists on both genders. We should not forget that. I agree with your point on where men get judged immediately without proof on certain matters. We first should acknowledge that our society has flaws, then only we can make it better. Blaming other factors, societies, religions won't change that.
I can't imagine being born near that time because till age of 12 I still didn't got maturity enough to look after myself .How could someone except to a twelve year or ten year old to be able to look after the family
18 itself is not a mature age to think and care about a family.....acc to me the right time is after getting a job..after being financially independent .
I know, right? I can't even imagine how those little children were forced to give birth in an age when it was their time to play and learn. childbirth in that age must have felt like death.
Yeah, mostly us women are suppressed but men are also bearing bcs of the toxic masculinity implanted on them which some don't want to follow but they need to 'fit in' Rest .. us women did everything on ourselves, for ourselves. And im proud of that
Agreed..it was very different in vedic age..when it turned to bronze and iron age...it became this way.. (Well in short vedic age can be described as time before invaders)
@Amey Shinde and using women as "breeding machines " is respectful some how ??? If something's wrong that's wrong even if it's part of our history Acknowledging that and learning from that is the best we can do
@@___9370 The Vedic age was in the iron age. Major flaws in your points. And invaders did not come right after Vedic age. Vedic age ended with the Mauryan Empire.
Seeing comments i feel like doing 🤦♀️ . Because I can see somany extreme people over here . Some one is forcing someone's opinion to others . Like seriously 🙄. Instead of discussing about topic if u find any drawbacks of the video u can kindly comment . But no somany personal attacks , no dignity at all seeing this kind of behavior in this type of platform
not indian culture but humans choose to follow laws which make them superior over others.In vedas marriage age for boy should be 25 and for girl is 18.But we don't follow it.
@H Khichar you go to a foreign country. We don't need people like you spreading negativity and small mindedness in a country rapidly and fairly developing.
Can't express how much I love your channel ❤ 💕 💛....dear editor if u are reading this I am thankful for your videos ...I request u made a video about altered culture of " Devadasi" how they are exploited in the name of god
Also make video on why people are so obsessed with pink lips. It's not natural that every skintone will hv light pink lips. Every natural shade is pretty!!!
Watching this video was very disheartening, the age of consent and post marital rape should be strictly taken care of. I can't offer much gratitude to this channel to remind me what more to fight for. ❤️🤧
It took me ages to come across a guy who does not say that denying sex is mental abuse and shit . THANKS FOR JUST EXISTING RANDOM GUY FROM THE INTERNET
@@dumb_me195 oh gosh! Guys like that do exist?! I'm really sorry to hear your experience. As you already know, don't hesitate to speak up to them. THANK YOU EMPEROR 👑
@@AdityaAnand-oy3nc yes they do. Check the comments and you will find literally thousands saying the same thing again and again and one actually said refusing is mental abuse. Like what the actual f. Idk how do these people be soooo ignorant. U are the king here 👑👑👑
I really like your videos and the topics you cover are so relevant yet avoided by a lot of content creators. Team Swaddle is definitely swaddling me with great ideas of feminism and interesting stories. Hats off to you guys 👏👏👏
0:29 "because thats too firmly embedded in scripture" - According to the philosophy of the Vedas, there is a restriction on child marriage. The age of marriage for a boy is 25 years or more and that of a girl is 18 years or more. However, from the Middle Ages to the present day the custom of child marriage against Vedas persists in India. source- terredasie.com/english/english-articles/history-of-child-marriage-in-india/#:~:text=According%20to%20the%20philosophy%20of,against%20Vedas%20persists%20in%20India.
Scriptures is very wide in India. Vedas other teachings would still be considered scripture I would think. Ultimately the best part of religion is marred by selfish needs of Patriarchy
@Akshay Satish May be r right ...but how r u 💯 pc sure that these all were due to islamic culture only....may be upper caste people have promoted tooo... multiple reasons....will u explain ...with full reference... please
India being the largest democracy in the world is still ONE OF THE 36 countries not to criminalize marital rape is just disheartening or just pathetic. I see some people saying If I'm married to my spouse, they expect intimate relationship with them and rightful so it's okay. But it should ALWAYS BE WITH CONSENT. No.Matter.What.
According to Mahabharata, a woman's "consent" age is 3 years after her 1st period. Girls in the Pauranic times were not allowed to marry until she finished 3 years after her first period. This is why all the heroines of ancient scriptures, like Ramayana and Mahabharata were always mentioned to be 'shodasha-varshiya' or16-years old. It is right to consummate the marriage within 16 days of her period after the wedding then because that is when the ovulation happens, or in short, the woman can conceive. But for that the girl had to be mature enough. When did this age went from 16 to 10 is a mystery to me.
@5 G yeah I know it requires a lot of courage . It requires a lot of sacrifice and efforts in being a mother ..trynna understand them ... I don’t think they are trying to create phobia ..but trying to bring the fact that society thinks it’s like a necessity of having a child being a mother ... a women without a child are called an incomplete women ( saying this from experience ) ..
🤦♀️🤦♀️🤦♀️🤦♀️🤦♀️🤦♀️thank god I wasn't born in that era,I see some Indian blaming Britishers for the today's situation of india but that British dude deserves applause like child marriage should be a shameful thing for a man and family
I loved your video and information. I don't get the haters,when does getting knowledge is wrong. Women should have consent within marriage. It's happening now too. How could a relationship nourish if it's based on a painful rape. My friend told she got married after 12 grade, she was 18 but she can't forget the behavior his husband did with her on their first night.
It's a shame that India as a country is trying to get the status of a developed country, still has rules like this. Unbelievable. No should always means no. No matter in what relationship you are. All these religions and their rules are developed by men to show their power over women. Unfortunately some women agrees and assist these men too. This subservient feeling in women is so deep rooted that I doubt we will probably not be able to trace back it's origins in history. If every woman in this world fight together, help each other, instead of protecting men, even though it is there son, husband, and father, I believe we will be able to overcome these in human rules and get truly liberised.
Kudos to the research team for bringing out such valid and important content in a time and society which is apparently still stuck in the 18th century!!
She was talking about that green book. Naming it or its author could create riot and sometimes beheading. That book explicitly says a girl is of marriageable age the moment she attains puberty. The reason why the writer of that book himself had a six year old wife
@@DevyaniMulik They are rule books of certain kingdom only. They cannot reflect whole India. Like Rigveda it is commonly used manuscript by all ancient kingdom. Name such commonly used.
Always remember sisters hindu muslim christian whatever religion they fight for women's struggle will always be there for us for them their religion means patriarchy thats it. Stand for yourself stand for sisters.
The fact that marital rape is still not criminalized is making me hella sacred. In my religion they say that having intercourse on the first night is very "pure" but what if I don't want to? My parents will not accept my thought of not getting married and there are 99.9% chances my in-laws won't let me do this first night shit my way cause me saying anything would be "against the religion"(their egos actually). I'm actually terrified now
@@HimanshuSharma-um5kf I know, that's the only way but it's extremely difficult to find a guy who's a good husband but is also completely fine about my opinions and way. I'm not blaming anyone, every human being deserves to be loved and respected the way they love and respect others, I cannot just go to meet a boy and barge him with my straightforward opinions, it would be more like an interview and less like a marriage. Plus he doesn't deserve to be treated the way I want my life to be. I don't want to get married, marrying a guy but making sure he knows I wasn't ready for it is bad for me but worse for him. He shouldn't have to be involved in my mess
@@mariam4699 Why it is extremely difficult for you? When you are meeting a guy or his family for marriage take his mobile number or social media id and talk to him. Or The best way is that, write a post on social media with your temporary email address, about yourself and what you are expecting from your husband. Let the men(including me) know what are the qualities, modern girls like you want in your husband. I want to know that where do you live?
@@kprathamesh3564 or mybe u watch those girls who advocate anti feminism becz they validate ur inavaibility of intelligence to deal with ur emotions better
"Husband and wife must cohabit 16 days after puberty" Who on earth decided that 10 year olds reach puberty? Just the thought of cases like Phulmoni sends shivers. What must they be thinking before acting so cruel towards little girls...
@@sovl2178 Biology disagrees. The average age for menarche is 12, and even that doesn’t mean that the girl is physically mature. Not to mention mentally.
Hinduism is not a prescriptive religion, so there are no definitive guidelines on what should be practiced. Child marriage was a cultural vice which was initiated due to invasions and occupancy of India which threatened the safety of (especially) women. This led to terrible wrongs such as dowry and sati being practiced too which were not the norm in ancient India. Linking what was practiced back then to Hinduism is actually very damaging without the cultural context of the time. Child marriage is permissible in certain religions and even modern American culture but not Hinduism if you go by legitimate Vedic literature (manusmriti for example is a law textbook for society at a point in time - not religious scripture). Since Hinduism is not a prescriptive religion with set rules feel free to dispute what I’ve said. If you look into it ancient Indian women were actually quite liberated unlike today.
The question is not about Hinduism or any other religion. Religion were created by men about thousands of years back. Women have a right to live a dignified life irrespective of whichever religion she follows. Whether any religious books has mentioned child marriage should be of no importance to the Government. The importance of having a democratic country is seperation of religion from constitution. And this is how it should function.
Adwaita Bhaduri a separate religion and constitution is not what was in place by the British at the time of the Raj or even now. British law is based on Christianity and Britain is a Christian country. Mixing religion with law has not been detrimental to Britain. Modern religions are simply put a set of instructions for people to follow to behave in a civil way appropriate to the time that they were created. Hinduism does not contain a set of rules so is adaptable to modern times. My point is why is it that only Hinduism gets demonised as a religion when we talk of social ills of the past? There’s no conversation on the context of why things were the way they were in the first place. Hindus were always prevented from gaining an education and learning about their religion by the invaders and subsequent occupiers, and that ignorance still exists today. So many Indians are afraid of being proud of their identity because they still don’t understand it. My point being that just like all Muslims aren’t jihadists, all Hindus are not ignorant idiots who follow cultural customs like child marriage. There should be a separation of religion from this debate. Also, when conversations like this occur, the British are glorified in a way from making reforms that stop cultural evils like sati. Maybe if the native population of India had not been suppressed and drained of education practices like this wouldn’t have come about. I can’t believe I’m sticking up for Indian identity when Indians don’t even see me as their own (I’m British born and raised), but I find it saddening that Hindus in India are embarrassed of their own religion without understanding its evolution and beauty. Hinduism does not suppress women. Name an ancient society where swayamvars took place or where women had political power or even freedom to obtain an education. If you read Jane Austin for example you’ll discover how prudish British society was just a 100 or so years ago with arranged marriages being the norm. I would hate for Indians to erase their own heritage and religious practices. I hope that whenever I visit in the future with my children that there’s a little bit of true Indian culture left that I can introduce them to.
prak she very clearly mentioned how child marriage was outlined in scripture...it’s not. According to Hindu scriptures, the ideal age for a woman to marry is over 18, whereas for a man it’s after 25 (post gaining a proper education).
prak legitimise Hindu scriptures don’t include manusmriti for a valid reason. People who follow that book are obviously misinformed as it is a book of ancient law and not religion. My point is that when topics like this are mentioned on a public platform that people need to be given the context behind the practices otherwise it leads to misinformation and resentment of your history.
I think marital rape could be presented to the court legally under domestic abuse. I have read it somewhere like that. I am not sure. If i am wrong please correct me.
me n my guy friend were haaving an argument he said that i dont post ab mens issues on my stories i only post ab lgbt n women n racism etc. i told him that i do post ab men but not as mcuh as women n other things cuz they arent facing as many problems as women n then he started to call. me "manophobic" n whne. i tried to explain to him that men dont face as many isssues he continued to call me "manophobic'' this isnt the first time we r having this kind of conversation w him but before he actually understood but this time he is refusing to even try can i get some advice what to do to make him understand??
Civilization came to rescue Indians from their tribal ways. Thank you for that... Left to our own devices this country would be more backward than it is today. Tribal religions and radical religions have always been the enemy of progress and human rights.
You have the internet at your perusal why not do your own research on that before you put your baseless comments to start a comment war over these things. Dimaag bhagwan ne diya hai usse use karne bhi seekh lo ya wo bhi bata na padega kya
Bro are you out of your mind? Or is it just that you don't want to face the truth. Leave Hindu Muslim alone. Focus on facts. This video focuses on the age of consent. Nowhere have they mentioned that the age was different for Hindu and Muslim women. What the hell is wrong with you people?
@Krishnkant Singh I think it is nowhere written in the scriptures but actually made by the people because vedas existed during early vedic period and this problem started in the later vedic period and I have read 4 vedas it wasn't written. Actually than people of high caste could read books and they change the religion according and patriarchy was made which made it difficult for the people. So...... It just my opinion this superstition was there because of evolution and not written.
Martial rape is more of an emotional problem then patriarchal men arent as emotionally stable. U k world would be such a better place if self respect was easy
Problem is not that women's are getting brainwashed by this low level analysis , What i worry about is that these women are going to be trashed in debates if these topics are raised in front of them in future 😂😂😂😂😂😂
But like talk about the persecution maybe? The things that women go through in the name of "culture" yeah maybe sympathy and compassion more than being politically correct might go long way.
Aunty marital rape cannot be punished because how will you prove or define? If the rape is real why didn't she report? What will happen if women changes her statement? Is there any judicial law for that.
Rape is a form of sexual harrassment. Sexual harrasement means sexual acts performed where at least one party did not consent or readily participate. Rape happens when the perpetrator has sex with their victim without the victim's consent. Marital rape happens when a spouse has sex with you without your consent
@@maha_sage some countries even believe in flat earth, some country even beheads people. Stop being influenced by western culture. Or you can leave India if you don't like it.
I AGREE ON FAKE RAPE ACCUSATIONS, BUT IT DOESN'T MEANS IT DOES NOT EXIST. JUST BECAUSE TWO PEOPLE ARE MARRIED IT ISN'T A LICENSE FOR ANY OF THE PARTNERS TO VIOLATE CONSENT.
@@kdjoshi726 it's unnecessary to keep it this low, people who want to engage, engage regardless. So it should be decreased. To be clear I'm not supporting forced sex or rape in any manner or whatsoever, I'm strictly against that!
Embedded in scriptures......this is so annoying, where? Chii, I am hating this channel. And martial rape is criminalised, it comes under sexual cruelty
While working on this video, we found some interesting facts on the age of consent today in different countries - in some, it is as low as 11 years, and in others as high as 21.
India's own trajectory of the age of consent goes to show how it depends on cultural context, and also on how perceptions change with time. What do you think?
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We think you should stop working on how Tradition's are bad for India. If you don't like it. You are allowed to leave India.
@@hardeeprajput6564 you are also allowed to leave this channel.
@@hardeeprajput6564 thats cruel problems are meant to be solved dude i just dont understand how u could be soo rude i mean i get it but traditions that bring humanity in a person down should be fixed in any place of world.
The sentence that if the husband and wife didnt cohabit within 16 days the wife's womb will be contaminated just made me scream 'shut up'😶
Check out this venereal diseases act" the queen's daughters in India"
www.gutenberg.org/files/47288/47288-h/47288-h.htm
Ikr Lmaoo
@@uffho please don't get me wrong check this book too
read.dukeupress.edu/books/book/1292/For-the-RecordOn-Sexuality-and-the-Colonial
@@kdjoshi726 honestly why
That’s ridiculous
and still marital rape is not considered rape.. This orthodoxy is designed to protect the rapist in every sphere..
Yes because in Patriarchy, there is no concept of rape because there is no concept of women being human
@sai maharaj everyone already knows a statement comes with inbuilt disclaimer that it's "not all ___" and generalization is done for the sake of simplicity. No need to act like a yesteryear lad.
And thanks for pointing out that I stated the obvious - Patriarchy is evil. No matter how much it is reiterated, it still meets people who are disturbed by Feminists overthrowing patriarchy. Your reaction was like that
@@maha_sage it's common sense at this point that when we say men we don't mean all men. but I think those who still feel the need to point out "not all men" are absolutely those men.
@sai maharaj And here I am, giving him/her a pat on the back.
Also, what are you trying to prove by saying what's already true? Everybody knows that not all men bad and not all women are sweet angels.
@sai maharaj and that statement had no connection to the context whatsoever
The Swaddle brings out the topic that has always been untouched but has made major backbone of today's society.
Absolutely true!
@H Khichar toh yh dekh le ua-cam.com/video/zSmDq5Czae0/v-deo.html
@H Khichar hmm u watched it wow
@H Khichar why r u angry tho
@H Khichar wow thats sweet btw did u get the point of video about why jack is angry?
I didn't know "Garbhadhan" was a thing. This boils my blood so much.
@5 G Thank you for prompting me to read further on this topic. I did find many articles on Garbhadhan and Menstruation (Rajodarshan in most cases) for ex: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Garbhadhan_(astrology) , en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Garbhadhana , www.sanatan.org/en/a/105764.html , hindi.webdunia.com/astrology-articles/garbha-dhan-sanskar-118042000025_1.html).
But yes, I do not feel Child Marriage is a part of our Sanskars. Maybe that tradition began to "protect" young girls at the time of invasions (Though I do not know much about what happened during invasions). I'm open to further reading if you have more.
How can they mix women's consent right with anti-socialism. #sheer orthodoxy
dis video makes me feel so sad and dissapointed for all dose women back in d day .They werent even women they were just kids and had to go through so much for d sake of our so called "culture nd heritage " .Truly dissapointed .
Yeah...it was a kind of mental physical emotional ...all kind of torchure .😣
You can find similar kind of thing there is an act called venereal diseases act introduced by the British.A book called"The queen's daughters in India" explains in detail
www.gutenberg.org/files/47288/47288-h/47288-h.htm
@Akshay Satish but you can't deny the fact that in india marital rape is still not criminalised even we have come so far.
Religion was made by man... Humans weren't made by religion. This habit of justifying every horrible act towards women, children, even men and animals with the farce of religion, has to stop. This can only happen if humans care more about protecting humanity rather than religion.
Excellent point 👍
Exactly agreed 1000%
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Exactly
Perfect! All damn systems,religions ,traditions ,festivals are designed by humans.
It was meant to be for our convinience.
If people are using for exploitation it is our responsibilty to break the wheel.
When I researched on the topic 'why Marital rape is still not criminalazed in India?', I found such ridiculous statements in the Name of "Indian Culture" stating why Marital rape should not be criminalized. Seriously what's wrong with these people?. RAPE IS RAPE. Hiding behind excuses like 'oh it will damage the concept of family, marriage, trust in partners, how will men prove their innocence'. Face the reality, however you call it, Without consent or under threat forced intercourse is RAPE. Thank you for creating awareness on such important topics.
@5 G so the man can leave his wife on this ground, right? Why will he force her, when according to you, she's "denying sex without a reason"?
@5 G should there be a reason to deny sex? ‘I don’t want to have sex’ is reason enough. When the other person does NOT want to have sex, FORCING them to have sex in any way causes mental and emotional trauma to them. Do you ever think about that? Or do you always only think about yourself? Maybe that’s why couples should talk about all of this BEFORE they tie the knot so the husband/wife is secure in knowing that sexual intercourse will be provided to them whenever they desire it coz even their partner wants it. Understand the difference between wanting and giving. YOU are the person who WANTS...the person has to GIVE. In Indian culture, the giver is always given more importance and hence, whatever they want goes. Also not allowing sexual jntervourse is grounds for immediate divorce. So if the husband is not satisfied with how much he is getting, he has all the power to leave his wife. And the wife should be ok with that. Coz if she doesn’t love him enough to even sleep with him...why is she with him. Sex might not be an important part of a relationship...but it is a cornerstone. If she is withholding sex...there’s some deeper problem in the marriage. And it’s better to call it off than stretch it and torture each other!
@5 G Your reasoning is laughable. What should be considered as 'Valid Reason' for refusing sex?.
And if your only point regarding sex is 'Sex is biological need' please consider, Are you a being with 6 senses or being with 5 or less senses. Because they are the only one focus only biological needs and functions. Because they don't have self awareness. Even in animals and birds unwilling partner will deny if it's not interested.
Refusing to have sex is within her rights even if she doesn't give reason. If the husband don't like that , they both can have a talk like, you know adults and decide what further steps should be taken in their life.
Forcing and compelling uninterested partner is called ABUSE.
Forcing what you think is right on your partner is ABUSE.
Thinking only about yourself and your mental health and emotional health is also ABUSE in a relationship.
Just Because you are in a relationship doesn't mean you are owed a woman's body or sex.
@@srinaveena8699 Rights doesn't mean anything without duties also your right is subjective to the rights provided to other as well.Marital rape wherever it has been legalized has only reduced marriage rates.In US already because of feminism marriage rates have gone down the gutter.Only Islam will grow in the future
There are many things which are forced on men as well.Erection of penis is not a valid consent for example as given by Supreme consent and declaring someone rapist based on looks is in itself controversial.A woman declare a man to be rapist just because she doesn't like his looks or if he doesn't agree with her.Such law can be be misused.If such a law is brought there will be an open gender war
@@Udta_teer_leliya Every law can be misused. We have to be the one to make sure that the law can't be misused. Saying 'this can be misused so we shouldn't pass the law' is not reasonable. Your logic can be applied to every other law. So what is your reply to that?. That we shouldn't pass this because it can be misused??..
And so what if marriage rate is reduced?. There is no logic in saying we have higher marriage rate if there is no value in that family. Don't blame feminism for this. If people realised and asking equality for both partners in a marriage, that's basic human decency. Don't blame religion. I am talking as a human being who is asking equality for both spouses.
And let's not deny the fact in a marriage a man can be raped as well. It's not a 'woman' issue. It's about breach of human rights of a spouse in marriage.
Gender based stereotypes exists on both genders. We should not forget that. I agree with your point on where men get judged immediately without proof on certain matters.
We first should acknowledge that our society has flaws, then only we can make it better.
Blaming other factors, societies, religions won't change that.
im so glad to see people talking about things that actually need to be talked about
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Why should we discuss about 1890's era law? I think we already have enough legal problems in current times.
@@rajashashankgutta4334 then why we study history we shouldn't right?
@@Priyanka-bq4ze because they changed this law.
Saddle isn't a history channel.
@@rajashashankgutta4334 haven't you watched the whole video? Martial rape is still not criminalised. The problem still exists.
I can't imagine being born near that time because till age of 12 I still didn't got maturity enough to look after myself .How could someone except to a twelve year or ten year old to be able to look after the family
18 itself is not a mature age to think and care about a family.....acc to me the right time is after getting a job..after being financially independent .
I know, right? I can't even imagine how those little children were forced to give birth in an age when it was their time to play and learn. childbirth in that age must have felt like death.
@@SleepIntoTheDiamondLife true... it's a mental physical emotional torture
@@makeneeteasy7956 I agree with you but at least 18 year olds have a sense of taking care of themselves
@@makeneeteasy7956 exactly
Who wants to join next wave of feminism led by swaddle? 🙋
I can't believe how our society has done so much for one sex and almost nothing for another
Yeah, mostly us women are suppressed but men are also bearing bcs of the toxic masculinity implanted on them which some don't want to follow but they need to 'fit in'
Rest .. us women did everything on ourselves, for ourselves. And im proud of that
Agreed..it was very different in vedic age..when it turned to bronze and iron age...it became this way..
(Well in short vedic age can be described as time before invaders)
@Amey Shinde and using women as "breeding machines " is respectful some how ???
If something's wrong that's wrong even if it's part of our history
Acknowledging that and learning from that is the best we can do
@@___9370 The Vedic age was in the iron age. Major flaws in your points. And invaders did not come right after Vedic age. Vedic age ended with the Mauryan Empire.
The current age of consent is 18 years in India according to Protection of Children Against Sexual Offences Act, 2012.
I guess it changed to 21 recently
@@curious7961 nop, still 18 but should be 16
@@curious7961 it's planned to but as of now it isn't
@Jigyasa jha why? What's so magical in 18?? How it's inappropriate, please elaborate
@@satvikkeshtwal7662 why should it be 16
Somebody please headline this channel. India needs content like this. We discuss videos from this channel in our class in college.
Wow very creative way to learn i wish i had something like that like how they have series in commerce n stuff
Knowing about the past shivers me.. No wonder why our parents mentality are like that...
Yes now it makes sense that why they are the way they are...
I'm American and I love this channel and find it very informative.
You know what, being a girl feels like a curse.😧😢
Seeing comments i feel like doing 🤦♀️ . Because I can see somany extreme people over here . Some one is forcing someone's opinion to others . Like seriously 🙄. Instead of discussing about topic if u find any drawbacks of the video u can kindly comment . But no somany personal attacks , no dignity at all seeing this kind of behavior in this type of platform
This garbhadan thing irks me to the core .
That was past. We still got a lot to be upset about. Like being considered impure or touching the pickle or tulsi will cause it to rot or dry
The Indian "culture " reducing the lives of women to that of servitude till this date is disgusting.
not indian culture but humans choose to follow laws which make them superior over others.In vedas marriage age for boy should be 25 and for girl is 18.But we don't follow it.
@H Khichar you go to a foreign country. We don't need people like you spreading negativity and small mindedness in a country rapidly and fairly developing.
@@deekshabhamidipati2368 didi koi baat nahi aise ye apne pita ji se ye sab sikh ke aaya hai uske pita ji iski mata ji ko bhi aise hi rakhte honge
Can't express how much I love your channel ❤ 💕 💛....dear editor if u are reading this I am thankful for your videos ...I request u made a video about altered culture of " Devadasi" how they are exploited in the name of god
Hey The Swaddle. Could you please make a video about public display of affection in India?
The lack of it and the prejudice against it you mean?
@@abhishekvijayan5296
Yes!
@@shourjoroychaudhuri3111 good topic
Kudos to you brother
@@abhishekvijayan5296 thanks☺️
I agree
Also make video on why people are so obsessed with pink lips.
It's not natural that every skintone will hv light pink lips. Every natural shade is pretty!!!
I can't believe all this content for free! *for free*
Watching this video was very disheartening, the age of consent and post marital rape should be strictly taken care of. I can't offer much gratitude to this channel to remind me what more to fight for. ❤️🤧
It took me ages to come across a guy who does not say that denying sex is mental abuse and shit . THANKS FOR JUST EXISTING RANDOM GUY FROM THE INTERNET
@@dumb_me195 oh gosh! Guys like that do exist?! I'm really sorry to hear your experience. As you already know, don't hesitate to speak up to them. THANK YOU EMPEROR 👑
@@AdityaAnand-oy3nc yes they do. Check the comments and you will find literally thousands saying the same thing again and again and one actually said refusing is mental abuse. Like what the actual f. Idk how do these people be soooo ignorant. U are the king here 👑👑👑
@@dumb_me195 of course, thank you 😭 you are so admirable! And let me see those dudes and slap some comments into them
@@AdityaAnand-oy3nc there is one named 5 g
Thanks to you guys, I am getting to know stories of Indian historical events. Though women centric, still knowledgeable.
We would like some more information on this. Could you extend this to a part 2 or longer?
I hope your channel grows more because it's bringing out issues that no one dares to talk about. Hats off to you all
This channel is a gem
Your videos are really thought provoking,your deep study and comparison from history to modern era is commendable 🙂🙂
I really like your videos and the topics you cover are so relevant yet avoided by a lot of content creators. Team Swaddle is definitely swaddling me with great ideas of feminism and interesting stories. Hats off to you guys 👏👏👏
Love the channel. Practical and realistic topics which need actual discussion.
0:29 "because thats too firmly embedded in scripture"
- According to the philosophy of the Vedas, there is a restriction on child marriage. The age of marriage for a boy is 25 years or more and that of a girl is 18 years or more. However, from the Middle Ages to the present day the custom of child marriage against Vedas persists in India.
source- terredasie.com/english/english-articles/history-of-child-marriage-in-india/#:~:text=According%20to%20the%20philosophy%20of,against%20Vedas%20persists%20in%20India.
Exactly it was a lack of knowledge. Our Vedas are very broad but due to evolution and patriarchy to makes everything worst
Ideologies change every decade...
It depends on ruling party...not on Vedas ...what to follow and what not to.
Scriptures is very wide in India. Vedas other teachings would still be considered scripture I would think.
Ultimately the best part of religion is marred by selfish needs of Patriarchy
@Akshay Satish May be r right ...but how r u 💯 pc sure that these all were due to islamic culture only....may be upper caste people have promoted tooo... multiple reasons....will u explain ...with full reference... please
@Akshay Satish eh? Evil practice of Sati was a defence against Islam?? How? What rubbish. Don't spread rumours
India being the largest democracy in the world is still ONE OF THE 36 countries not to criminalize marital rape is just disheartening or just pathetic. I see some people saying If I'm married to my spouse, they expect intimate relationship with them and rightful so it's okay. But it should ALWAYS BE WITH CONSENT.
No.Matter.What.
I recently read about in a message and I was really shocked. Thank you for this video
According to Mahabharata, a woman's "consent" age is 3 years after her 1st period. Girls in the Pauranic times were not allowed to marry until she finished 3 years after her first period. This is why all the heroines of ancient scriptures, like Ramayana and Mahabharata were always mentioned to be 'shodasha-varshiya' or16-years old. It is right to consummate the marriage within 16 days of her period after the wedding then because that is when the ovulation happens, or in short, the woman can conceive. But for that the girl had to be mature enough. When did this age went from 16 to 10 is a mystery to me.
Yes...all those seem to follow the historical tradition but infact they are taking them to the worst 🙄
I still feel the responsibility of pregancy is like an unwanted, additional burden on a women *sign*
@5 G Well, I think its her choice to be a mother or not...having kids don't make a woman stronger...her emotions do...
@5 G please don’t get offended ...being a mother is everyone’s personal choice ...
@5 G yeah I know it requires a lot of courage . It requires a lot of sacrifice and efforts in being a mother ..trynna understand them ... I don’t think they are trying to create phobia ..but trying to bring the fact that society thinks it’s like a necessity of having a child being a mother ... a women without a child are called an incomplete women ( saying this from experience ) ..
🤦♀️🤦♀️🤦♀️🤦♀️🤦♀️🤦♀️thank god I wasn't born in that era,I see some Indian blaming Britishers for the today's situation of india but that British dude deserves applause like child marriage should be a shameful thing for a man and family
I loved your video and information. I don't get the haters,when does getting knowledge is wrong. Women should have consent within marriage. It's happening now too. How could a relationship nourish if it's based on a painful rape. My friend told she got married after 12 grade, she was 18 but she can't forget the behavior his husband did with her on their first night.
This channel helps me know alot about people whom I had held in unnecessarily high stead.
So, Lokmanya is not that "Lokmanya". ആളത്ര വെടിപ്പല്ല.
Swaddle pleassseee.. make your videos longer...
Its so frustrating 😔....
It seems like it's just about to begin and then it ends....
Pleeassse!!
It's a shame that India as a country is trying to get the status of a developed country, still has rules like this. Unbelievable. No should always means no. No matter in what relationship you are. All these religions and their rules are developed by men to show their power over women. Unfortunately some women agrees and assist these men too. This subservient feeling in women is so deep rooted that I doubt we will probably not be able to trace back it's origins in history. If every woman in this world fight together, help each other, instead of protecting men, even though it is there son, husband, and father, I believe we will be able to overcome these in human rules and get truly liberised.
Developed😂😂 with 3000 per capita .more than 30 year needed
I agree 💯% with all of your contents and I always get so much anger after watching your videos. You are doing something right.
Wow I when when they did one thing right that was highly fought about in the name of culture
I can't even imagine being born at those times
Kudos to the research team for bringing out such valid and important content in a time and society which is apparently still stuck in the 18th century!!
It is needed to be talked.
Law created by british what do you aspect?
Salt law
Agricultural taxes
Zero dislike what the power swaddle
Thank you
India should increase marriageable age upto 23-25.
So both adults can finish there graduation atleast!!!
Are you sick ?
Exactly
Poor children :" What did they do to deserve that 😭😭
0:32 Aunty should have mentioned the name for scripture. If anyone knows please let me know for research purposes only.
Gautam dharamshastra, manusmriti, even the vedas I believe
@@DevyaniMulik not the Vedas, Vedas mention that males should be above 25 years and female should be above 18 years for marriage
She was talking about that green book. Naming it or its author could create riot and sometimes beheading. That book explicitly says a girl is of marriageable age the moment she attains puberty. The reason why the writer of that book himself had a six year old wife
@@ajaykarmakar4944 6 years??
Oh my god!
@@DevyaniMulik They are rule books of certain kingdom only. They cannot reflect whole India. Like Rigveda it is commonly used manuscript by all ancient kingdom. Name such commonly used.
Well Explained!
And Bal Gangadhar opposed this? *Instant loss of respect *. Tell me again how feminism is not important?
Please Hindi subtitles
Always remember sisters hindu muslim christian whatever religion they fight for women's struggle will always be there for us for them their religion means patriarchy thats it. Stand for yourself stand for sisters.
That's so scary🙄
The fact that marital rape is still not criminalized is making me hella sacred. In my religion they say that having intercourse on the first night is very "pure" but what if I don't want to? My parents will not accept my thought of not getting married and there are 99.9% chances my in-laws won't let me do this first night shit my way cause me saying anything would be "against the religion"(their egos actually). I'm actually terrified now
Talk to your husband before marriage and clear your every doubt.
@@HimanshuSharma-um5kf I know, that's the only way but it's extremely difficult to find a guy who's a good husband but is also completely fine about my opinions and way. I'm not blaming anyone, every human being deserves to be loved and respected the way they love and respect others, I cannot just go to meet a boy and barge him with my straightforward opinions, it would be more like an interview and less like a marriage. Plus he doesn't deserve to be treated the way I want my life to be. I don't want to get married, marrying a guy but making sure he knows I wasn't ready for it is bad for me but worse for him. He shouldn't have to be involved in my mess
@@mariam4699 Why it is extremely difficult for you?
When you are meeting a guy or his family for marriage take his mobile number or social media id and talk to him.
Or
The best way is that, write a post on social media with your temporary email address, about yourself and what you are expecting from your husband.
Let the men(including me) know what are the qualities, modern girls like you want in your husband.
I want to know that where do you live?
Thnku
RAM RAM ❤️
B.G. Tilak opposed the Age of Consent bill 1891. He told that Britishers had no right to interfere in our Religion, our daily lives.
No ! . He is conservative not fanatic .
I just hate lokmany tilak thaught procedure and him as well
So they make her pregnant without her wish and yes but have to produce male child
Let me guess,, you all watch saloni gaur's videos,.
No but lemme guess u watvh arnab Goswami
@@fatemakhanpurwala1473 worst guess ever🤣🤣
@@kprathamesh3564 or mybe u watch those girls who advocate anti feminism becz they validate ur inavaibility of intelligence to deal with ur emotions better
@@fatemakhanpurwala1473 who is antifaminist😅😅😅
Matlab kuch bhi🤣🤣,,,
Ooh thanks for the suggestion bro. Never heard of this funny girl before... She's got some talent!
"Husband and wife must cohabit 16 days after puberty"
Who on earth decided that 10 year olds reach puberty? Just the thought of cases like Phulmoni sends shivers. What must they be thinking before acting so cruel towards little girls...
>who on earth decided that 10 year olds reach puberty?
God/Nature
@@sovl2178 Biology disagrees. The average age for menarche is 12, and even that doesn’t mean that the girl is physically mature. Not to mention mentally.
Keep up
colonists always ruining everything, INDIA #1 FOREVER
Thts easy
Hinduism is not a prescriptive religion, so there are no definitive guidelines on what should be practiced. Child marriage was a cultural vice which was initiated due to invasions and occupancy of India which threatened the safety of (especially) women. This led to terrible wrongs such as dowry and sati being practiced too which were not the norm in ancient India. Linking what was practiced back then to Hinduism is actually very damaging without the cultural context of the time. Child marriage is permissible in certain religions and even modern American culture but not Hinduism if you go by legitimate Vedic literature (manusmriti for example is a law textbook for society at a point in time - not religious scripture). Since Hinduism is not a prescriptive religion with set rules feel free to dispute what I’ve said. If you look into it ancient Indian women were actually quite liberated unlike today.
The question is not about Hinduism or any other religion. Religion were created by men about thousands of years back. Women have a right to live a dignified life irrespective of whichever religion she follows. Whether any religious books has mentioned child marriage should be of no importance to the Government. The importance of having a democratic country is seperation of religion from constitution. And this is how it should function.
Adwaita Bhaduri a separate religion and constitution is not what was in place by the British at the time of the Raj or even now. British law is based on Christianity and Britain is a Christian country. Mixing religion with law has not been detrimental to Britain. Modern religions are simply put a set of instructions for people to follow to behave in a civil way appropriate to the time that they were created. Hinduism does not contain a set of rules so is adaptable to modern times. My point is why is it that only Hinduism gets demonised as a religion when we talk of social ills of the past? There’s no conversation on the context of why things were the way they were in the first place. Hindus were always prevented from gaining an education and learning about their religion by the invaders and subsequent occupiers, and that ignorance still exists today. So many Indians are afraid of being proud of their identity because they still don’t understand it. My point being that just like all Muslims aren’t jihadists, all Hindus are not ignorant idiots who follow cultural customs like child marriage. There should be a separation of religion from this debate. Also, when conversations like this occur, the British are glorified in a way from making reforms that stop cultural evils like sati. Maybe if the native population of India had not been suppressed and drained of education practices like this wouldn’t have come about. I can’t believe I’m sticking up for Indian identity when Indians don’t even see me as their own (I’m British born and raised), but I find it saddening that Hindus in India are embarrassed of their own religion without understanding its evolution and beauty. Hinduism does not suppress women. Name an ancient society where swayamvars took place or where women had political power or even freedom to obtain an education. If you read Jane Austin for example you’ll discover how prudish British society was just a 100 or so years ago with arranged marriages being the norm. I would hate for Indians to erase their own heritage and religious practices. I hope that whenever I visit in the future with my children that there’s a little bit of true Indian culture left that I can introduce them to.
prak she very clearly mentioned how child marriage was outlined in scripture...it’s not. According to Hindu scriptures, the ideal age for a woman to marry is over 18, whereas for a man it’s after 25 (post gaining a proper education).
prak legitimise Hindu scriptures don’t include manusmriti for a valid reason. People who follow that book are obviously misinformed as it is a book of ancient law and not religion. My point is that when topics like this are mentioned on a public platform that people need to be given the context behind the practices otherwise it leads to misinformation and resentment of your history.
Child marriage is "firmly rooted in scripture"??? What the hell is she on about?? Hinduism is against anything disgusting like child marriage.
I think marital rape could be presented to the court legally under domestic abuse. I have read it somewhere like that. I am not sure. If i am wrong please correct me.
This is the reason I don't like humans 😶
me n my guy friend were haaving an argument
he said that i dont post ab mens issues on my stories i only post ab lgbt n women n racism etc.
i told him that i do post ab men but not as mcuh as women n other things cuz they arent facing as many problems as women
n then he started to call. me "manophobic" n whne. i tried to explain to him that men dont face as many isssues he continued to call me "manophobic''
this isnt the first time we r having this kind of conversation w him but before he actually understood but this time he is refusing to even try
can i get some advice what to do to make him understand??
Please speak in hindi.
Civilization came to rescue Indians from their tribal ways. Thank you for that... Left to our own devices this country would be more backward than it is today. Tribal religions and radical religions have always been the enemy of progress and human rights.
😆 🤣 😂
"He couldn't abolish child marriage bcz that was too firmly embedded in scripture"
Which scripture? Quran?
You have the internet at your perusal why not do your own research on that before you put your baseless comments to start a comment war over these things.
Dimaag bhagwan ne diya hai usse use karne bhi seekh lo ya wo bhi bata na padega kya
Bro are you out of your mind? Or is it just that you don't want to face the truth. Leave Hindu Muslim alone. Focus on facts. This video focuses on the age of consent. Nowhere have they mentioned that the age was different for Hindu and Muslim women. What the hell is wrong with you people?
Dimag se tatti bahar Lao. Fir comment karna.
No hindu scripture, which says that only virgins can marry and that a girl is to be married to someone 3 times her own age
@Krishnkant Singh I think it is nowhere written in the scriptures but actually made by the people because vedas existed during early vedic period and this problem started in the later vedic period and I have read 4 vedas it wasn't written. Actually than people of high caste could read books and they change the religion according and patriarchy was made which made it difficult for the people. So...... It just my opinion this superstition was there because of evolution and not written.
first
Martial rape is more of an emotional problem then patriarchal men arent as emotionally stable. U k world would be such a better place if self respect was easy
Wow 😦 then maybe go to therapy? Like rape is not the solution I guess
@@AdityaAnand-oy3nc damn right these men who think rape is ok already need therapy
@5 G i think that might be right for u snowflake
Problem is not that women's are getting brainwashed by this low level analysis , What i worry about is that these women are going to be trashed in debates if these topics are raised in front of them in future 😂😂😂😂😂😂
But like talk about the persecution maybe? The things that women go through in the name of "culture" yeah maybe sympathy and compassion more than being politically correct might go long way.
Aunty marital rape cannot be punished because how will you prove or define? If the rape is real why didn't she report? What will happen if women changes her statement? Is there any judicial law for that.
Rape is a form of sexual harrassment. Sexual harrasement means sexual acts performed where at least one party did not consent or readily participate. Rape happens when the perpetrator has sex with their victim without the victim's consent. Marital rape happens when a spouse has sex with you without your consent
myvacriminallawyer.com/arlington-criminal/sex-crimes-lawyer/burden-of-proof/
Some countries are recognising it. You could do well by researching. Don't just run away and throw garbage on women because you can't deal with change
@@maha_sage some countries even believe in flat earth, some country even beheads people. Stop being influenced by western culture. Or you can leave India if you don't like it.
I AGREE ON FAKE RAPE ACCUSATIONS, BUT IT DOESN'T MEANS IT DOES NOT EXIST.
JUST BECAUSE TWO PEOPLE ARE MARRIED IT ISN'T A LICENSE FOR ANY OF THE PARTNERS TO VIOLATE CONSENT.
Back when India was BASED
It's now 18 but should be 16
Why?
@@kdjoshi726 it's unnecessary to keep it this low, people who want to engage, engage regardless. So it should be decreased.
To be clear I'm not supporting forced sex or rape in any manner or whatsoever, I'm strictly against that!
But like that's not going to stop the oppression-
@@AdityaAnand-oy3nc what oppression?
@@satvikkeshtwal7662 assaults, harressments, misogynoir, lack of opportunities Because of society and stuff...
Embedded in scriptures......this is so annoying, where? Chii, I am hating this channel. And martial rape is criminalised, it comes under sexual cruelty
Vidyasagar even said that I didn't knew that. Sad😓