I love this area! I would have moved there if work allowed it. I used to visit often back in the pre vineyard days. It was so peaceful there. Those hills were filled with oaks. Lots have been removed. Sadly
I would have enjoyed seeing that area before man’s greed turned it into his want. The amount of water needed to keep these grapes going is different from the volume of additional water the oaks need. Eventually, the increase in added irrigation will impact the lifespan of the oaks.
You are a man after my own heart, Blair. You are 10 years my senior and I learn so much. I love you passion, inquisitiveness, curiosity, and love for nature and what you do. I suspect my retirement plan may be similar to yours.
I grew up in the central valley (San Joaquin) thru junior high and our neighborhood was full of gigantic Valley oaks. It had been a citrus grove before being developed in the late 60s, and we had an original orange tree next to the house. As much as I enjoyed the oranges, the massive oaks always held my attention.
If only we had a time machine and go back to the years before these trees were cut down. To see miles & miles of huge old trees in all directions must have been jaw-dropping..!! Even here in north central Arkansas, old growth forests used to be everywhere and I have read that at one time, a man could ride a horse all day long through these forests and never hit a limb from a tree. The trees were so old and big that even the lowest limbs were higher than a man on a horse. Oh...for want of a time machine...!!!
@@arboristBlairGlenn Trees that you have never seen...? Yea, maybe a few, but I bet that in your life you have seen and worked on hundreds of different kinds of trees. Twenty three years ago now ( wow....that long ago....!! ), I took a tree identification class at the local community college here that was taught by a forester. I learned a great deal about trees and basic forestry practices and stuff. Our text book was a tree book put out by the Arkansas Forestry Commission, called: Trees of Arkansas. It is 142 pages full of different trees here...how to identify, leaf types, all of that good stuff. There must over 100 trees in the paperback. I have it here on my computer desk even now.
The natural growth of a mature oak will lend those long limbs to eventually touch the ground and buttress the weight of the limbs and trunk. This does not lend itself to a "beautiful" old oak and most like you see are trimmed to lift the canopy and provide space under them for wine gardens ect. There are some Black Oaks(Q. kelloggii) in Paso Robles as well.
I did not see any Black Oaks but I’m sure you are right. Thanks for commenting. Not sure what your first name is but I know you are a long time viewer.
When John C Fremont walked thru Calif in 1844 he wrote of the Valley Oak because of the large acorn, he noted oaks 10ft in diameter. and pines too. I have a photo of me under a 6ft diameter Valley Oak near Calif 2nd mission, Mission San Antonio--Nacimiento Area, west of King city. It's hard to see me standing under the outer diameter of one of the large limbs, the outer diameter is some 100Ft! and when I walked to the trunk I was immediatly greeted by zillions of ants
In german "profession" and "vocation" are almost the same word - "Beruf" and "Berufung". Far to often that doesn't depict reality. I believe if you were an insurance broker you would still be wandering around gasing at trees while the others where whine tasting. Something beautifully infant about it. A german poet wrote: "Only who grows up and remains a child is human." I'm glad you're not an insurance broker Blair.
Just imagine the Vally full of these majestic Oaks
Vineyards destroy many amazing trees.
All for the sake of the drink. And the money.
I love this area! I would have moved there if work allowed it. I used to visit often back in the pre vineyard days. It was so peaceful there. Those hills were filled with oaks. Lots have been removed. Sadly
I would have enjoyed seeing that area before man’s greed turned it into his want. The amount of water needed to keep these grapes going is different from the volume of additional water the oaks need. Eventually, the increase in added irrigation will impact the lifespan of the oaks.
You are a man after my own heart, Blair. You are 10 years my senior and I learn so much. I love you passion, inquisitiveness, curiosity, and love for nature and what you do. I suspect my retirement plan may be similar to yours.
Thanks Ron
Another great share, of what the average person will never see . but you share for us curious tree people . thanks Blair
My pleasure Joe
I grew up in the central valley (San Joaquin) thru junior high and our neighborhood was full of gigantic Valley oaks. It had been a citrus grove before being developed in the late 60s, and we had an original orange tree next to the house.
As much as I enjoyed the oranges, the massive oaks always held my attention.
They are magnificent trees
Great oaks.
I think, defects gives less problems when other growing conditions are good, like good soil, lots of sun, water and air.
The grapevines are not what these trees need
...and plenty of other valley oaks to protect them from the wind
If only we had a time machine and go back to the years before these trees were cut down. To see miles & miles of huge old trees in all directions must have been jaw-dropping..!! Even here in north central Arkansas, old growth forests used to be everywhere and I have read that at one time, a man could ride a horse all day long through these forests and never hit a limb from a tree. The trees were so old and big that even the lowest limbs were higher than a man on a horse.
Oh...for want of a time machine...!!!
Arkansas? Never been there. I’m sure you have trees I have never seen.
@@arboristBlairGlenn Trees that you have never seen...? Yea, maybe a few, but I bet that in your life you have seen and worked on hundreds of different kinds of trees.
Twenty three years ago now ( wow....that long ago....!! ), I took a tree identification class at the local community college here that was taught by a forester. I learned a great deal about trees and basic forestry practices and stuff. Our text book was a tree book put out by the Arkansas Forestry Commission, called: Trees of Arkansas. It is 142 pages full of different trees here...how to identify, leaf types, all of that good stuff. There must over 100 trees in the paperback. I have it here on my computer desk even now.
The natural growth of a mature oak will lend those long limbs to eventually touch the ground and buttress the weight of the limbs and trunk. This does not lend itself to a "beautiful" old oak and most like you see are trimmed to lift the canopy and provide space under them for wine gardens ect. There are some Black Oaks(Q. kelloggii) in Paso Robles as well.
I did not see any Black Oaks but I’m sure you are right. Thanks for commenting. Not sure what your first name is but I know you are a long time viewer.
Those are beautiful valley oaks.oaks that are grown in the open are so majestic. Similar to the ones here like bur oak and white oak.
Where do you live?
@arboristBlairGlenn southwest Wisconsin there's alot of old postures and remnant oaksavanas.
@@jimschlaugat6475 never been to Wisconsin
@arboristBlairGlenn it's beautiful here there's a whole different kinds of forest and prairies and wetlands
When John C Fremont walked thru Calif in 1844 he wrote of the Valley Oak because of the large acorn, he noted oaks 10ft in diameter. and pines too. I have a photo of me under a 6ft diameter Valley Oak near Calif 2nd mission, Mission San Antonio--Nacimiento Area, west of King city. It's hard to see me standing under the outer diameter of one of the large limbs, the outer diameter is some 100Ft! and when I walked to the trunk I was immediatly greeted by zillions of ants
Don’t ten footers any more.
I love Paso!
I see why
You should come to south Georgia and Florida and see the live oaks.
He lives in Santa Cruz. Lots of Live Oaks there.
@f.demascio1857 I know but there's no Virginiana
your last two words said it all
Yup
I’m definitely not a tree guy but some of them limbs looked threatening to my untrained eyes 😮
I always appreciate your comments. Even if you are an “Armchair Arborist” 😊
Es row -bless
Don’t understand this comment
@@arboristBlairGlenn pronounced row bless
@@engineerinhickorystripehat got it. Need to turn on mi Espanol dialect. Gracias senor.
@@arboristBlairGlenn so , do you think that Oak I mentioned will have butt rot after being filled in with sand @ 2foot for three years ?
In german "profession" and "vocation" are almost the same word - "Beruf" and "Berufung". Far to often that doesn't depict reality. I believe if you were an insurance broker you would still be wandering around gasing at trees while the others where whine tasting. Something beautifully infant about it.
A german poet wrote: "Only who grows up and remains a child is human."
I'm glad you're not an insurance broker Blair.
I could not do that type of work. It would kill me