Oh lord i'm a none farmer and I can not begin to count the hours that you put in to your equipment repair, not to mention maintenance.We or I usually think that the most work of the farmer is getting seeds, getting crops in, fertilizing and harvesting and selling your crops. Watching your videos make me realize that there is a whole hell of a lot more to farming than "farming". I cant imagine all of the farmers out there who have call repair people with problems like this. I guess they either learn to weld, be a heavy machine mechanics and all of the other stuff that you have educated me on about farming or they have to find a new vocation. Thanks.
The synchronizers control the rolling/clutched shift of 2 to 3 and 3 to 2. It's the same as shifting from 2nd to 5th or 5th to 2nd with a 4020. When you shift Ranges, you are not affecting the topshaft, only the bottom shaft. The symptom of failed synchronizers would be grinding when you shift from 2 to 3 or 3 to 2. When they come apart, you cannot shift from 2 to 3 or 3 to 2 as the components will be "locked." Your tractor probably wasn't grinding with this shift, but, as you explained in your video, soon would be. Hope this helps.
Hey Wes, many thanks to you and the "Pandy Clan" for the live stream yesterday. Always a huge case of the "Ya might as well" when you break something down this much.
I remember splitting our 3010 because of the pto pin what a sucker to split my dad didn't trust the stands so we used heavy cribbing block regular 8 speed so no synchronisers and the sync's are why i like ford just a regular 8 speed dont have to split it for stuff like that John Deeres arn't bad but had some dumb ideas just like ford and id never own an international because of the TA anyhow Great Video like all the rest keep them up
I think you would lose 2 and 3 gear because that's what two gears the synchros are used on the thing actually power shifts every time you go from 2 to 3 also. Lots going on in there all at once. Nice vid
Wes.... just a thought...... if you have one place where you do most of your work, why not try and hang your lights around that area so you dont have to worry about where they are positioned, they will be shining down from above you to light the entire area up.
I hope that bits of synchros didn't get fed thru the hydraulic pump , and that's what is causing your problems . Case MX series tractors have a habit of feeding brake linings thru the pump at around 5000hrs so if you don't change the brake linings you will be going for a more expensive replacement of a hydraulic pump. We know this from experience.
I think if that was my tractor when I got the transmisson back together I'd pull the axle for all the time it will take and check the brakes. It looks like a lot of brake material in there usually the left one it's the one everyone uses the most good video
We have a track on the floor with an adjustable stand that ride on the rails you put the stand under the engine and push it its a realy easy way of splitting your tractor
Wes, you welded feet to your stands for stability, wouldn't adding a second bolt from the stand to the frame take away an chance for a front to back pivot or roll?
For someone who seems to have so many people telling him he doesn't know what he is doing, You are certainly very thorough and seem to know what you are doing Wes! Lol!
I like working on transmissions of all kinds tractors or trucks . I had my JD 730 down for 3 years between having my son finding part that weren't over priced and availability was a problem to. If you had to pick what would you work on ?
I THINK that's Wes's own rendition of Liza Jane. I could be wrong though-- just this one time. No wait, I just re-watched him playin' Liza Jane . I couldn't have been more wrong. I don't know who the artist is. 57
I have been hearing some ramblings about a website of some sort... But this video doesn't show the address and there isn't an address in the description. What gives? Hurr hurr.
You guys complains about the price of parts have never worked in a machine shop! Lots of time and expensive machines and steel , men have to be payed to run them .
Oh lord i'm a none farmer and I can not begin to count the hours that you put in to your equipment repair, not to mention maintenance.We or I usually think that the most work of the farmer is getting seeds, getting crops in, fertilizing and harvesting and selling your crops. Watching your videos make me realize that there is a whole hell of a lot more to farming than "farming". I cant imagine all of the farmers out there who have call repair people with problems like this. I guess they either learn to weld, be a heavy machine mechanics and all of the other stuff that you have educated me on about farming or they have to find a new vocation. Thanks.
More to farming than most believe, tis why a lot of people aren't "cut out" to be farmers. Farmers = jack of all trades and a master of all of them.
your knowledge on many subjects is amazing
i grew watching my father fix all the neighbors tractors...cool stuff
Thanks for sharing Wes!!!! Man that's a lot of work!! Enjoy your upcoming vacation. Well deserved!!
Wes, you have inspired me to repair the syncro ring problem on syncro-range transmission on my 3020. thanks!!
Hi from the garage in sweden im splitting a 2040 as we speak, must say its really easy machine to work on 😊
The synchronizers control the rolling/clutched shift of 2 to 3 and 3 to 2. It's the same as shifting from 2nd to 5th or 5th to 2nd with a 4020. When you shift Ranges, you are not affecting the topshaft, only the bottom shaft. The symptom of failed synchronizers would be grinding when you shift from 2 to 3 or 3 to 2. When they come apart, you cannot shift from 2 to 3 or 3 to 2 as the components will be "locked." Your tractor probably wasn't grinding with this shift, but, as you explained in your video, soon would be. Hope this helps.
Hey Wes, many thanks to you and the "Pandy Clan" for the live stream yesterday.
Always a huge case of the "Ya might as well" when you break something down this much.
I remember splitting our 3010 because of the pto pin what a sucker to split my dad didn't trust the stands so we used heavy cribbing block regular 8 speed so no synchronisers and the sync's are why i like ford just a regular 8 speed dont have to split it for stuff like that John Deeres arn't bad but had some dumb ideas just like ford and id never own an international because of the TA anyhow Great Video like all the rest keep them up
Great videos this old ones Wes
I think you would lose 2 and 3 gear because that's what two gears the synchros are used on the thing actually power shifts every time you go from 2 to 3 also. Lots going on in there all at once. Nice vid
Goode job wes now I know how to get mine out, wes you are the best jd mechanic I know if those dealer guys suck as the most part and over priced.
Yes... and once again you got the shaft!
dude i love your laugh, so evil but so cool at the same time lol
Great idea!
Shit or get off the pot…lol.I haven't heard anyone say that in 20+ years since i last heard my dad say it. Thanks for bringing a smile to my face!
great progress! time to get the check book out. Hopefully there's a JD parts man who subscribes and would give you some deep discounts!
wes will you be checking the clutch pack why it is apart? great video you make it look so easy.
My 2630 needs balancer shaft bushings , I keep putting it off , old man ,old tractor ,old tools ,going to take me forever.
Hey Wes. Didn't see the Benie on your website. Do you have them for sale?
How about the clutch pack behind the planetary gears? Can you inspect it at this point or would you need to take more of the tractor apart?
hey Wes what year is the 4230 ??? i grew on on a 4430 and 4230 when i was young
Wes.... just a thought...... if you have one place where you do most of your work, why not try and hang your lights around that area so you dont have to worry about where they are positioned, they will be shining down from above you to light the entire area up.
Yeah that's a great idea
Would that effect Reverse?
Wess, Please explain again how do you know if the synchronizers are bad????
Are you going to look at the clutch packs while the case is split?
Good job.
Can you show us in your next video how the hi/lo powershift works?
I hope that bits of synchros didn't get fed thru the hydraulic pump , and that's what is causing your problems . Case MX series tractors have a habit of feeding brake linings thru the pump at around 5000hrs so if you don't change the brake linings you will be going for a more expensive replacement of a hydraulic pump. We know this from experience.
I want a Tim Pandy shirt
None at your website
I think if that was my tractor when I got the transmisson back together I'd pull the axle for all the time it will take and check the brakes. It looks like a lot of brake material in there usually the left one it's the one everyone uses the most good video
We have a track on the floor with an adjustable stand that ride on the rails you put the stand under the engine and push it its a realy easy way of splitting your tractor
Sounds like a pretty good idea!
How is desperado doing?
Wes, you welded feet to your stands for stability, wouldn't adding a second bolt from the stand to the frame take away an chance for a front to back pivot or roll?
Nice job guys
For someone who seems to have so many people telling him he doesn't know what he is doing, You are certainly very thorough and seem to know what you are doing Wes! Lol!
remember doing this to my 3400 back in the 80s replaced it with a 6610 back In 2005
Would you ever consider showing how to do a brake job on a tractor?
Are you checking the clutch packs while she is open?
those are some nifty gloves youve got
the 4640 it has the same tranmission ?
I like working on transmissions of all kinds tractors or trucks .
I had my JD 730 down for 3 years between having my son finding part that weren't over priced and availability was a problem to. If you had to pick what would you work on ?
57fitter
why do you type 57 after every comment?
57fitter
huh? what on earth are you bullshitting about
Joe Poe Look at his name numpty .
EXTREME4YEARSTOCOME
huh?
seems to be your favourite word atm.
Can you make a video about your camera
Fun 👍👍👍👍
Now the waiting game for parts.
Wes, what's the name of the banjo song? Another great video, keep em coming. Cheers
I THINK that's Wes's own rendition of Liza Jane. I could be wrong though-- just this one time. No wait, I just re-watched him playin' Liza Jane . I couldn't have been more wrong. I don't know who the artist is. 57
Thanks, just have heard the song many times before on other videos, (not just on Wes's). Cheers
hey wes, why does te 6200 have so much bigger synchronisers?
Remy Rood no they are different but about the same size
interesting wes as it been running with only one syncro pack
looks like they got the shaft
15 minutes. Right Tim?
Whenever someone accuses me of being an "expert," I just say we all know what we do. And, you demonstrate that in spades! Right Tim?
How many people in high school called you Pandy bear?
Is it just me or do you guys like to grind gears. Jk I know your fleet is pretty old, good on you for wanting to fix stuff yourself.
I have been hearing some ramblings about a website of some sort... But this video doesn't show the address and there isn't an address in the description. What gives?
Hurr hurr.
Cadde Dude,thats the stupidest comment ive ever seen. This aint 1puglife. Grow up
Joe Poe Get sat on.
***** Cry moar.
Cadde I think its spelled "more"
Joe Poe ORLY? I DIDN'T KNOE!
Where's your boys that are suppose to help you?????
Tough to roll that rear end on flat tires. Just sayin ...
3rd comment
hi from cyclist and daisy the border collie
2nd comment i think
hey hows it goin
Approx how many engine hours has this tractor done? What is wrong with the PTO shaft? -You mentioned that it was looking a bit rough that's all.
You guys complains about the price of parts have never worked in a machine shop! Lots of time and expensive machines and steel , men have to be payed to run them .
Would you ever consider showing how to do a brake job on a tractor?