Peter Gunz on Giving Up 100% Publishing: We Got Stuck-Up!
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- Опубліковано 2 кві 2015
- www.vladtv.com - Peter Gunz and his former partner in rhyme Lord Tariq's "Deja Vu (Uptown Baby)" was without a doubt their biggest record, but it began as a simple club chant Peter started when he felt Brooklyn and Queens were being represented harder than The Bronx, his native borough.
When he decided to add it to the official song and sample Steely Dan, the song became a street hit, leading to offers from various labels. Of course, with official music comes sample clearances, which Gunz says cost him 100% of the publishing plus $150,000. They paid it, which in hindsight Gunz says was "a stick-up." They even had to give up writing credit.
Gunz is also honest enough, however, to admit if he were in Steely Dan's shoes, he would have done the same thing. He also accepts responsibility for his own career, saying he regrets that he and Lord Tariq didn't follow up with another album.
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I Grew up with Peter we were next door neighbors, he's a good man. I wish he continued with his music I loved watching him perform and his rap flow was smooth. Peter if you out there and reading my comment. Keep on going, create a UA-cam channel. Your name speaks for itself. You got this bro! transcend all others expectations, and leave the past behind. Good luck! your budd Mike from 174th Vyse Ave. Teddy's bro.
u grew up by pistol pete?
@ahiai barnes lol right and on top of that he talking shit to a 4 year old comment that dawg probably will never remember he wrote. This Internet Thugging and Banging Syndrome is crazy
A GOOD MAN? ARE YOU FUCKING SERIOUS?
@@friezasama8860 Prove him wrong boi
@@guccigucci5002 Peter Gunz is NOT Pistol Pete. Both did their things but in different genres.
industry rule number 4080- record company people are shady
Or rule 360 lls
I was thinking the same thing when he was talking
Rule number 4081, never battle KRS One
A tribe called quest said it best
So kids watch ya back cuz I think dey smoke crack...I don't doubt it, look at how dey ack. 🎶 #tribe🔥
This exactly what Dame Dash was talking about
There are Levels to this ish. Rap Music Industry is a labyrinth. Steely Dan's Becker and Fagen were legends
mondoc jenson So, it still artist raping artist.
And this is why dame is pushed out of the music biz, you exposed the lifestyle, you'll be attacked
Lord Tariq and Peter Guns reminds me of hardcore versions of Kid N Play.
I bought the album my junior year in high school. As a light skinned dude, it was cool to see a fellow light skinned guy like Gunz getting some shine and Deja Vu was the dopest song out when I got it. It wasn't a "great" album but it went hard. "Cross Bronx Expressway" was ill. That last joint was with a never heard of group at that time by the name of Jagged Edge. "We Will Ball" was a summertime banger. It hurts to hear that album didn't sell too well
Finally, A person that admits that they have some regrets.
It's the worst thing in life to live with.
He can change it, it's up to him. The regret can be left in the past. Glad he is coming to terms with it though. I pray that he decides to go with his heart and create again whatever he loves. You know! let it go.
100% of the work you did and someone else is getting the credit and paid for it. I would regret it also
@@larrylopez9614 Well not 100% of the work exactly. He sampled their music.
THANK YOU...NOBODY IS PERFECT. EVERYBODY HAS REGRETS. EVERYONE SHOULD STOP FRONTIN.
Wow. Tough lesson. It's like what Lord Finesse said... "You don't get what you deserve. You get what you negotiate."
As a Steely Dan fanatic I have to concur with Peter they woz robbed and not only that Steely Dan got some street cred off the backs of these brothers. However I must point out to my knowledge the late Mr. Becker was born and raised in Queens. Small point but still.
i respect his honesty
It's Crazy how bacc in the Day Rappers sold millions like it was nothing.
BlackJohnnyCage We as consumers were eating that shit up....every Tuesday there would new music to buy...
that song was the shit classic! for yall youngins that only know him from love and hip hop go watch that video.
Fuck just watching the video listen to the whole album it wasn't wack at all.
Never heard the album but I used to fuck with Tariq money boss players shit hard back in the day damn its crazy that shit was almost 20yrs ago
@MrWARBUCKS24 MONEY BOSS PLAYERS HELL YEAH!!!! Classic freestyles Lord Tariq was a beast!! Soundview shit that's my old stomping grounds when I was youngin. I need to find some of those freestyles I had mad money boss shit on cassette.
MrWARBUCKS24 It's too bad MBP never dropped a album. They had some cuts!!!!!! I got the LT & PG album though.
facts, Im from #bronxriver
Because the song came out and became a smash before being cleared, Steely Dan had them by the balls!!! They knew that they would get what they wanted. Same thing happened with the OH Boy sample! Cam went and put the song out behind Just Blaze back before the sample was cleared!! Sting also took 100% of the publishing of Missing You!!!
Cam dumb ass Smdh
Missing You was a different story . Puff actually cleared the sample before the song dropped . In return , he produced a hip hop version of Roxanne in 1997 for Sting as a thank you.
@@GMANKOOL23 was that song "what means the world to you" by Cam'ron?
@@foreverseethe Yes
@@GMANKOOL23
The sample was not cleared before the song dropped. Do some real research. Sting even talked about it on numerous media platforms, including Rolling Stone. Sting and Puff are good friends now, but the sample was not cleared before the song dropped. Sting got paid well from that song. Both have admitted that numerous times
I honestly felt that brothers pain. I almost dropped a tear after the regret line.
Fagen and Becker (RIP) are musical geniuses. Steely Dan songs are written with precision. Listen to the chord progression and atmosphere of the notes. It's blissfully tension building. Listen to _Peg._ Crazy chord progression so much so it's difficult to figure it out to replicate perfectly. _Do It Again_ is a personal fav🔥...
But thankfully that same year they were credited on Tatyana Ali’s “Daydreamin’” which was a big hit. But not as influential as Deja Vu.
Love his honesty. He's giving lessons to the up and comers.
Or if the world was lucky, and it's not, young people would learn how to create music for themselves again
In the documentary of the making of Steely Dan's album "Aja", Donald Fagen starts to sing "Uptown Baby" to the beginning of "Black Cow". Knowing the backstory makes that moment feel so shady.
I was wondering if someone else saw that. Now that I know they took EVERYTHING, that’s hella disrespectful.
What part of the Aja Documentary...on youtube there are 6 parts
Don't regret bother you have done things niggas wouldn't do in a thousand life times,,
DONALD FAGEN AND WALTER BECKER WROTE THE MUSIC DUDE!!!! I LOVE HIP HOP, BUT IF YOU WANT TO USE SOMEONE ELSES MUSIC, YOU GOTTA PAY!
They did NOT write this version. They should've got paid but not 100% period.
J.R. Elgran they had to ask for permission before selling millions made off from their shit man. they’d be able to make a deal then but it was too late. and deja vu literally has nothing else from that sample and uptown baby uptown baby
yup. Street cats don't get it but the law is mightier than the mic.
They were young kids It happened fast They didn't know the music business It's very common and sad It's a mess
over 21 is not a kid
Peter was around 30 years old at the time
I still Rock that album to this day. It was one of the best albums that came out that year. To me it was a classic. It stayed on repeat in my ride. Everything was tight as fuck, production, lyrics...BARS...OMG! I'm mad these dudes didn't do a follow-up. It's never too late. They can still do it for us older fans that still love bars.
They fucked up. You cant leave when you on fire. Strike while the iron hot because you don't how long that money gone be there. Seen it happen to so many artists. Mase, Corey Gunz, Canibus, Camp Lo, Lauryn Hill. That's why Jay, Ja, DMX, Ludacris dropped albums every year. Its never too late. PG and LT could drop an album right now and I would buy it.
QuadrantBottomHalf dude hell yeah. Look at dudes like NORE. He kept it consistant and dropped albums over and over and hit with the neptunes when they got hot but even after he faded out hes still dropping albums and the album he put out recently was actually really good. The point is dont give up on the music.
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To not give writing credits to the writers is fkd up
This is further proof, of what I have been saying for many years. The board room will ALWAYS beat the street corner. The board room, plays for more zeroes on their checks.
PG you a real one for keeping it 100 about the song and regrets. Yall still made one of the biggest hip hop tracks in history and made the game stand still. Had a young brother like me from the D yelling uptown baby, and yall was flowing like water on the track respect.
If u give up 100% publishing don't even bother putting the song out.
chitizzle true but they got on with that they could have done more songs and learned from that experience
Yeah but they made an anthem for they city. They make it on show money. They still perform that record to this day.
chitizzle I would have just walked away... did a remix or something
Hindsight is 20/20. You heard Peter say what's 115k when they were getting a million, and they THOUGHT they would be able to make another banger to the level of that track. I get the sense that if they didn't do that deal the song wouldn't have been put out.
quanumphysics The song was already out. This is why they were in that impossible situation...
Im a writer and producer, and we are the ones that get paid, hey if you can sing too. Salute to you. Be careful out here in this music game
The first mistake they made was looping the master recording. Perhaps they wouldve gotten writer royalties if they wouldve replayed the melody. Rodney Jerkins used the same Black Cow 3 note bass melody in the Tatiana Ali's Daydreamin' featuring Lord Tariq. He replayed those 3 notes. Didnt sample anything from sound recording. Steely Dan still took about 70%-75% of the publishing and writer share SMMFH. But at least Rodney Jerkins and the new writers got some ownership. I see why most mfs dont sample anymore. If you are going to use a sample, negotiate before your song is big. Replay the necessary parts. You don't need to use the sound recording.
You got it babe..i stay clear away from samples.if anything i hear i like i would make something close to it to get the same vibe...
Samples have always been involved with hip hop! I wonder how the situation with the usage of Steely Dan's "Peg" panned out when DeLaSoul sampled it ? That was back in 89',90! Before "Uptown..."! Ice Cube sampled them too on The Predator album!
I still use samples, but I went the Indie route and my guy and I created our own beat, played it like a sample and went from there. What upsets me is that there are no rules, no one has set down and negotiated appropriate rates. Everything can be regulated, there should be a rate chart with escalator clauses rather than this wild west of just raking cats over the coals. Sampling has been a bedrock of Hip-Hop and it's not going to change, but we need some type of industry rules.
@@Cuffski I agree with you!
@Delgado smooth72 It was the Biz Markie/Gilbert O'Sullivan case of NY that specifically altered hip hop sampling. He sued Biz/Cold Chilln' records for alot of bread.
Steely Dan actually ARE from New York and New Jersey.
PreciousGorgeousisBad2 Yep, Fagen is from Paramus, N.J. (hope I spelled it right) & Brecker is from Brooklyn I believe but before moving to the West Coast in the 1970's they lived in Brooklyn for minute not including the time they were roommates up in college at Anndale !!!
@@cehayes74 Becker was born in Queens.
Yeah. Rudy's is a real dive bar down in Manhattan.
We live we learn
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They rode the single too long and federal agents ran up in their label
That's why you gotta clears samples before they get hot or last minute. Steely Dan knew they had a hit single and it was his music so they back was against the wall. So they either had to take the L or not use it. They should have replayed the sample over and that would've at least cut the owners of the master out of the equation to save money on clearance. I love Tariq and Gunz and they should have dropped more albums when they were hot. If they dropped now I would scoop it.
💯. I still enjoy listening to their album even 22 years later.
Its never too late to come back Pete. D Angelo took 15 years off when people never thought he would come back and dropped a surprise album on all of us last year now he might possibly be nominated for a couple Grammy's next year. Look at jodeci..a group I never thought would come back after 20 years. Now their new album is about to be gold. I was probably the only one that brought the make it reign album back in 97' 98' and it was bangin. Pete should've sent solo ..he was a dope emcee. He still got heat. Just gotta create the right buzz for him cause love and hip hop isn't gonna last forever.
He's talking about the club scene in "how to make it in America " he should've gotten a check for that. Sad
Nope, he can't get a check for sum'n he doesn't have writing credit for.
How come he never talks about that "POP" smash hit they had with Tatyana Ali :-( .
It wasn't their song , they just featured on it
I hear ya Peter, ya shudda kept it rolling, even if you never had a next hit youd've got that D-Block respect
I grew up listening to the Aja album and still think it’s one of the best albums of all time, but when I got introduced to Deja Vu, I’ve not been able to listen to the original, the flow absolutely slayyyys. Steely Dan made a funky ass beat, and Lord Tarik and Peter Guns turned it into one of my favorite hip hop songs of all time, it’s a drag they did them like that, but like what Peter Gunz said, if you can get it, get it.
I like to believe it's more of a management or record label thing rather than Donald Fagen and Walter Becker asking for 100% publishing themselves. Because I'm a fan, I want to believe they're nicer guys than that.
CANDID. I respect Peter for keepin it so real. Saw him perform live once a few yrs ago at a small venue in the city. POWERFUL stage presence.
He right , back then with that single out they could have dropped the album while that single was hot it was platinum no doubt thats how the game was back then single hot drop the album gold or platinum easy. Plus tour money. I would regret it to
But peter got bread though shit all that stuff he did and co wrote with shaq that did gold and platinum dude not hurting for bread at all
Steely Dan wanted a 100% because they wanted to make a point to the Hip Hop Producers of the world world,that you have to clear it with owners of the publishers. The fact they didn't share additional lyrics with them,proved it was a done deal from the start. Those young kids at the time made more people aware of Steely Dan,and they were that selfish not to share.Intellectual property is no joke.They ended up being a one hit wonder act.. having no more hits after(Uptown Baby)..was Steely Dan correct?? that is the question:
Garfield Harrison Sad but true
Like Peter said, they exploited a grey area in the situation. Steely Dan were only supposed to get 50% as production credit. Its not like Peter and Tariq remade the whole Black Cow song. They only looped the intro. Steely Dan must've felt to themselves that the rappers were not successful enough for them to recoup long term royalties, so they decided to use the courts to take the whole pie. So I guess Donald Fagen and Walter Becker wrote the lyrics "Cause I push a Lex, and I rock a Rolex And I lounge on Lex, and I love sex And I wave techs on sets that be tryin to flex"........
Royal George Thank You. To anybody who says Donald Fagen and Walter Becker did something wrong is Naive but explaining the truth is Difficult when people do not understand Intelectual Property Rights. Sure Gunz and Toriq wrote the lyrics and you can write all the lyrics you want BUT you better have Sample Clearance before you attach them to music otherwise the way it ends up you didn't write Shit. Just cause you put rims on a stolen car Doesn't make it half yours. The truth be know Fagen and Becker Lost Money. They had a deal in the works with Puff for a percentage of publishing for a song he was working on. What happens then it's discovered the song has been illegally sampled and distributed WITHOUT CONSENT (Label or Not that Bitch has left the House). Puff then backs out of the deal and Fagen and Becker end up getting $115,000 plus 100% publishing of a flash in the pan rather than what surely would have been ~$2M-3M or more in publishing Thru Puff. Would you rather have thousands or MILLIONS. Putting it another way Fagen and Becker didn't get to decide how they wanted to sell their work. Someone else Hijacked their work and in the end gave them back Pennies when they had expected to get Dollars. They gave them Chicken Shit but told everybody listening it was Chicken Soup. Nobody reading this will understand Clearance but you better believe musicians do. That's why everybody in the music industry hearing this is silently saying "You didn't get Clearance for the sample" ...BYE.!!!
Anytime someone samples your song, you can give them or deny permission to use that ish. They gave them permission. But took everything. Peter Gunz and Lord Tariq were stupid af to keep the sample in the song. They shouldve removed it and had someone else replay a different 3 note bass melody. Then put some drums over it. Bam, they wouldhave had 100% rights and royalties. I see why a lot of producers do not sample ish as much as mfs used to. Because you are at mercy of the og publishers.
Hey, play by the Rules.
I grew up in the Bay Area and they remixed it for us for the radio. The chorus went “ Oakland baby, Frisco baby...” and “Richmond baby, San Jose baby...” I always wondered if they remixed it for other demographics.
Baylien Yep, they did here too, for VA, DC, Maryland, and Carolina.
you have to keep in mind how things were back then. There is a laundry of list of royal fux in the olden days of the industry in all genres...
I remember buying this tune on 12". Good track but what a price they paid. I also remember the Lox track, same beat but slower If memory serves me.
Deja vu was and still is a big tune for me
It was good to see Peter after all these years
'Peter got 9 millimeter'
Thanks for sharing the truth Peter. You are helping the next star make less missteps.
Itz fucked cuz their album wuz actually pretty good for a debut
Good music never dies brothers, y'all can always come back with more classics🎵🎵🎵
People are shocked by this? If so, they're not paying attention because this was going on long before PG and LT sampled Black Cow. Unfortunately this has been a commonplace industry practice for decades, even when the sample was cleared. There's many a track from the 80s where sampling was involved and this was the scenario that transpired with the artist losing the entire publishing royalties, forever.
Peter Gunz is so beautiful...
Decisions are final. There is no do over in life, no restart! Sometimes we have other opportunities. When it’s your time catch it and score.
This was the realest interview I've saw on vlad Peter gunz spoke truth and he spoke genuinely from his heart both the brothers were sick with there flows but I pray they find they ways 🙏 💯
Smart move for Steely Dan...ppl saying Pete got fucked which he did, but some of those old heads won't even let you sample their shit period. At least Pete got to eat off it somewhat-- but having publishing is paramount.
Always remember thinking where the hell did these guys go after that single coz the song was everywhere! London
Steely Dan straight up sampled Horace Silver's "A Song for My Father" in "Rikki Don't Lose That Number".Blue Note Records & Horace Silver should've took them for every dollar. Give both songs a listen & then scream out "F*ck Steely Dan"
It's not about what you deserve.....it's about what you negotiate.
Back in the day, I almost got into a fist fight at a bar over that fact. Was telling this guy it was a Horace Silver tune. Same bass line. Not gonna fight over some steely Dan shit.
Why do someone think they can use someone else’s work and say it’s some fuck shit because they want 100% publishing of THEIR WORK. If you don’t like it, use another sample 🤷🏾♂️
that song had jerry riveras trumpets on it too not jus steely dans beat the beginning was exactly how jerry riveras song sounded exact
Could've got somebody to replay the sample.. The chorus WAS THE TRACK.
If they had interpolated Black Cow by replaying the elements live, Peter Gunz and Lord Tariq would still have had to reach an agreement with Steely Dan over the publishing for the song composition - at which point they would've still insisted on 100% of the songwriting royalties. Interpolations where the artist gets a musician to replay the sample for them, would've meant they didn't have to pay the $150,000 fee for the master usage of the sound recording but the publishing would've remained an issue.
CaptainCorleone Not if you stray the notes a bit..
CaptainCorleone The first mistake they made was looping the master recording. Perhaps they wouldve gotten writer royalties if they wouldve replayed the melody. Rodney Jerkins used the same Black Cow 3 note bass melody in the Tatiana Ali's Daydreamin' featuring Lord Tariq. He replayed those 3 notes. Didnt sample anything from sound recording. Steely Dan still took about 70%-75% of the publishing and writer share SMMFH. But at least Rodney Jerkins and the new writers got some ownership. I see why most mfs dont sample anymore. If you are going to use a sample, negotiate before your song is big. Replay the necessary parts. You don't need to use the sound recording. Also, SDS Overfiend is right. Copyright protection for a song is limited to melodies and words. Not style, concept, or anything else. The producers of De Ja Vu couldve used 3 other notes and used the same concept with their own mf drums. They wouldnt have had to pay them bihs anything.
@@SDSOverfiend Check out Ray Parker Jr. having to pay Huey Lewis on Ghost Busters because it sounds like I want a new drug. If it's close enough, you lose.
tjrox definitely.. I’m on it. Thank Diddy for fucking the game up. Sampling all those records the flossing on videos having the original artist thinking they losing out on Millions. Can’t even blame them for it.
Walter Becker was from one of the burroughs.
If you worked in other studios and paid for studio time and haven't got raped or
ripped for your $#!% then consider yourself blessed back in the 90's this type of
stuff happened and I learned from my experience now I have my own studios
to work out of but there's always this thing hanging over your head I got ripped and raped and some other well known artists are making millions off of my $#!%
Here's my advice be careful who you work with and around and make sure if you
use an outside studio make sure no record buttons are pressed and make sure you delete everything once your session is over and take any disk and make sure any
samplers are empty and this information is for any new Artist or Producers coming
in the game learn from our mistakes people are thirsty and they are grimy they will
steal it's nothing worse than to go into a studio without having your music
copyrighted before you do a session and hear your music on some well known
multi platinum artist record on the radio a month later or turn on the television
and hear a commercial playing your music they will cut your throat standing right
in front of you in this business if you aren't on your P's and Q's. and I'm not talking
about samples either which makes it hurt even worse.
real fucking Shit!
Uptown baby uptown
Steely Dan will fuck shit up over using their samples.
ask Kayne
lilHippo
Lol...I'm scared for MF Doom. If Steely Dan ever stumbles across even "Gas Drawls"...man...I don't know if he has the money to survive that wrath.
fonkymaster MF Doom won't earn enough for Steely Dan to come after him.
+fonkymaster
Kanye didn't get fucked up. He asked them for permission, they listened to his track and said no because it was shit (and it is). Kanye wrote a letter to them explaining his feelings toward their track and they were touched, so they gave him permission.
Gunz put out Deja Vu without expecting it to get big, and it shows. Deja Vu is a lazy track - the sample is the only part of the beat. No additional instruments, no chopping, just a pitch shift.
Gas Drawls is actually really good though, best use of the three by far.
Nameguy
Huh...
Same shit happened to The Verve with “Bittersweet Symphony”.
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My wife's cousin is,Chris Martin from kid and play and he said when you owe the rite or samples you control the cash not the rapper or singer.tgey get crap.
I’m actually a little disgusted with Steely Dan. They don’t need the money.
I was so into that joint when I was in high school! I even bought the single at a local mall. I was disappointed that Gunz and Tariq didn't follow this up because I was into their music.
Make It Reign Was Full Of Potential Hit Records. Just repurchased the album off ebay today.
Dejavu,Cross Bronx Expressway,Streets to da stage,Who Am I, the list goes on should've kept making music like they said in the song keep on.
They can never take that from you Gunz, Deja Vu is a hood classic FOREVER...Brooklyn nigga here✊🏾
Crazy how guys out here (west coast) and dudes down south had a lot more independent hustle smarts. It's not that they were any smarter then NY guys, it's just that they had to break in to the industry a little different. You HAD to have your business straight, way before the labels started calling. So by the time they were hitting these guys with those sucker deals, they already knew what they were worth. So they could take it or leave it.
That song popped because of hot 97, battle of the beats. They through the song out on a white label and it won battle of the beats everytime for like 2 months.
Uptown track was an anthem every bar verse was crack and we was all addicts
They also weren't in a really good negotiating position. Most of the time you clear shit before the album or single comes and you can make a decision as to whether it's worth the cost. They already had the single out and it was hot and then you go back and try and negotiate you're in a tough spot. Steely Dan could pull the single back and then you got nothing.
Gunz doesn't realize he has a lapel mic and keeps leaning towards the phone so Vlad can hear him, lol!!!
Love that song til this day.
Kanye wrote Steely Dan a letter asking permission to sample Kid Charlemagne and got them to okay it. People rework a song when they realize it's going to cost big money.
He's wrong. Walter Becker is from Queens NY.
"They not from Brooklyn/Queens", Walter Becker grew up in Queens though...
@subcomandante marcos Jewish is a religion. Not a race, you moron
@@flipflopmcgurt3403 call a tru jew a white boy n see what he says
@subcomandante marcos Walter Becker wasn't Jewish
"They not from NONE of the Burroughs!" Ummm...Walter Becker was from Queens and went to Stuyvesant High School. Damn, Gunz...it's called "Google"? No wonder y'all got "stuck up".
Um Peter Gunz I hate to inform you, but Walter Becker is from Queens.
I have but one word: Remix!!!! I applaud those cats for having the guts to proceed forward with the track. If I was in that situation, then I would've remixed it.
Big Stacks they didn't actually do a remix but I remember it being on a mix tape different beat but fpr me the one on the mix tape was more 🔥 than the original it was a little faster and they sounded harder more believable shall I say
Big Stacks The meat of the instrumental were the 3 bass notes. They couldve replayed any 3 bass notes in that same style and would not have had to pay anything. Because copyright protection for a song are lyrics and melodies.
Where is Lord Tariq? Ain't heard from him in a long minute...
Walter Becker is from Queens...
That Puffy song was If You Want It w/ The Lox
oh man!! So sad too hear
When I first heard this. I asked my aunt did they get permission from Steely Dan to do this, and she replied something about that`s business she did not know. I told her to make sure. because if that single goes Successful ,they are ( Steely Dan) going to take all the royalties and sue for the rest. And comes to pass my cousin and Peter Gunz got screwed. Shame it happened.
@Brett Sylvester I disagree. Provided they had business representation, but In the long run I wished it did not turn out the way it did they`re still talented artists. Peace Cuz.
@Brett Sylvester They Could have but had no experience in the Record Game business or got bad advice.
I brought the album on cassette tape, the album wasn't that good but they was still fucking with the mixtape shit. They was a dope group, I always said they should've got down with Rocafella and that might have saved there rap careers at that moment😎
Uptown was straight classic charted on the lick back in school days
Yeah they should have came back with another album
This brother was the heat back in the day... Reppin the Big Apple
you got to be smart..... this is why it is so important to know how to read and write. These hood dudes dont know business...
Lakers Fan Since 1974 He knew what he was doing, but Peter gunz and lord tariq took the situation for granted and did put nothing else out.
Lakers Fan Since 1974 What does read and write have to do with it? They produced a song not knowing how big it would get which is why they didn't contact Steely Dan early on. Once it became a hit, Steely Dan had all of the leverage unless they were going to discontinue the song, Steely owned the publishing for one song, not their careers. The only mistake they made was not making more hits to ride the fame of this give away single.
Lakers Fan Since 1974 You're correct in the statement of reading and writing being a necessity but it's irrelevant to this situation. What could have they read or written to change the out come? nothing. The bad business decision was not reaching out to Steely Dan's publishing Co. to get clearance for the sample once they saw the big potential for the song. They just waited to long.
Of course they don't. When you are from the hood, and you come into a whole bunch of money, they wouldn't know how to spend it.
It's doesn't matter if your from the hood burds or the country, no one can escape the rape😂
Steely Dan? Y’all knew damn well they was gonna have y’all in court
Interviews with old school artists are getting better and better. The reason is they dont have an image to protect anymore. Peter Guns, Jamar, Ja Rule, etc, they all give the best interviews.
Bruh !! I am soo sorry to hear how you got screwed. I listened to the original music soundtrack that Pharoah Monche used for his "Simon Says", hit. It sound soo BLAND and nothing no body no beat, just a little snippett was used for a great creation by the Brotha who brought life to that musical piece. Nas was right in his "I can be what I wanna be" song. We are some creative Motha Fatha's. Blak folk that is.
Why the lack of eye contact.
Great question!
Maybe the interview is on speakerphone.
Y’all did it for hip hop at the end of the day that song will forever be the Bronx anthem after its ofcourse but as a Brooklyn nigga that song reps for all of us I love to see niggas rep they slums they hood fuck the money the song is priceless fuck the fame lord Tarik is one of the illest very powerful flow peter Gina is just the glue I will forever respect y’all cats from Brooklyn baby pa uptown nigga
2:32. Walter Becker is from Queens and attended Stuyvesant High School, my dude.
I remember that song
Mix a lot...... 100 million dollar on baby got back.....
Always keep your publishing.ALWAYS! I cant believe Peter fell for the Okey Doke SMDH
They should try to renegotiate. It happened with Richard Berry, songwriter of the classic 60's rock song "Louie Louie." That song sold millions and millions. Berry signed away the credits before the song blew up. He was on welfare in the 80s, but was able to regain writes to the song and made millions. Gunz wouldn't ever be able to get full credit but even a slice of that for writing the raps would be huge.