Yeah I feel the same, I don't understand how people had to think about it at all... If I was with the person, I'd give them all of it, cause "what's mine is yours" and I share money in my relationships anyway. If it was a stranger, or someone I'm not close to, I'd have given $10, we're both getting the same amount, why not??
@@allanfaigao4677 that`s a very good point you are making. How would the amount at stake change the dynamics? I can imagine that for those couples that are wildly in love with each other (like those two girls) the amount would not change anything. You could probably put $2 billion on the table, and the result would be the same. However, if a relationship is driven by reason, tactics, powerplays ... the results could be vastly different and highly unpredictable, I guess.
That's what I think too, but then I decided it's against the spirit of the excercise... it's an ultimatum, not a comprimise. In that vein, I'd offer 8 dollars. Extracting as much as I can while being sure that the offer is palatable.
@@InternetMameluq I don't think it's against the spirit of the exercise. You can offer literally any amount that would be satisfactory to the other person and that is $0 to $20. My first thought was, that if I sat at the table, I'd probably go with 10/10 because it's fair for both sides and thus easy to accept. The variety of results came as a surprise to me, quite frankly.
This is actually an exercise in game theory that shows that we aren't purely rational beings. A purely rational person would accept any offer because you're better off with even just one dollar compared to nothing. I guess it's our sense of justice/fairness that tells us not to accept an offer we perceive as unfair even if it is objectively worse for us.
Yes! We have a lot of human biases while negotiating and most times we just go with our gut feeling rather than rational thinking. And that's why maybe some day humans will be replaced by negotiating AI.
Meg Guzman but on the other hand, if we meet this person again they will remember that they can't do what they want with us. That might benefit us in the future.
Wow, amazing to see such different reactions! And that couple who gave all 20 is so beautiful, nearly made me cry too. Both couples were very sweet actually
This activity is actually an example of game theory which is more or less about rational/strategic decision making. I could see how it could potentially be related to empathy, but I don't think it's that tightly related. I was also hoping Julian would mention that empathy is different from sympathy because empathy means you are able to share in a person's feelings because you have experienced the same (or similar) thing that they currently are, while sympathy means you can be supportive/compassionate, but you can't exactly understand their feelings because you have not had that experience. Both are good to practice, but I think it's an important distinction to make.
I can't imagine keeping any of it unless I was literally hungry and had absolutely NO money!! You could make someones day for a lousy $20. Are we all really so starved for a few bucks? We all see how beautiful it was when the one woman gave her Love the whole amount... Nicely done.
Julian! I love how you break facts down with such a caring and yet unbiased attitude. We definitely need more videos with you breaking awesome science down brotha!!! Peace, love, light and happiness to you and all the other Soul Pancakers :-D
Regardless of the precise definitions, this video was a bit of an eye-opener for me. There are definitely situations, most recently when I talk with and about gay people, where I find it much more logical to imagine what they are feeling than to imagine me being in the same positon. However, I'm sure that in more everyday situations, where I have been in the same position as the other person, I too often only look at how I felt or would feel, rather than how the other person is actually feeling about said position. After all, it's about the emotions that are actually being felt and not about the ones that would be 'logical' to feel. :)
This is awesome!!! This video really highlights the fact that you don't have to go through what someone else is going through in order to feel the emotion that they feel. An argument I hear frequently from people who have a ton of privilege is that they don't know what it's like not to have it so they can't understand how someone without their same privillage would feel. That's sympathy and not as helpful as empathy. Connecting with emotions of others is hard.
I missed this and caught it when I saw the second vid! Could you maybe put 'science of empathy' on the thumbnail so it does get lost in the sea of videos? Already enjoying these immensely
For the next part series Soulpancake should do a series on 'The science of Hope and optimism' since it has already covered most of the other positive emotions.
Jello k. I learned that empathy could play a deep role in a process of making decisions that actually are gonna impact to people's happiness. It would be no more about putting yourself into people's position to make the choice they probably would make if they were in your place, but to make the right choice based on how they would feel out of your action.
Whatever the offer might be, the person accepting should take whatever is on offer as they will be better off. (S1 still better than $0). But a fun lil' video with great production value btw! :)
The guy with 1$ theory is right. But not only about what he said. Here's another. If you gave them 21$ to share, I could almost guarantee almost 3/10 pairs would share it 2/3 to 1/3 in personal advance. And if you would have gave them that money - not telling them amount - and tell them to split 50/50... Who gets a dollar more?
Perhaps that's the lesson of the experiment. Those who acted out of self preservation were not being as empathetic as those who took a moment to feel what the other person would feel receiving a certain amount of money.
Agreed. I also think empathy could be studied both ways... the person accepting it would feel empathetic to the person that offered. The guy who got 8 dollars could be happy his friend got to keep 12. Where as the one that rejected the offer didn't have empathy towards his cousin.
I wish they had also broken it down by the relationships people have with each other. Married people figure they already share that money. It is different in other relationships.
5:35 This Ultimatum Exchange made me very uncomfortable. ☹️ The guy in the blue shirt gave himself $12 and only offered $8 to the baseball cap guy which made him settle. It basically put the cap-wearing dude in a situation where HE HAD TO SETTLE FOR LESS (self-sacrifice) or both parties would lose which might tick off the other guy. Blue shirt guy... I don't know you, but that move seemed VERY SELFISH. 😑 In the future, please offer 50/50 so it's fair for BOTH PARTIES or be a generous gentleman and offer the other party MORE. #Done
lialiakicks I agree but also think about a perspective where the $20 was yours from the beginning, you’re giving away a sum of money from your own pocket for nothing in exchange to total stranger. That would change things wouldn’t it? It’d kinda be like well they should be grateful they’re getting any money at all, there’s no context behind the other person they’re literally just endangering your money (if you think of larger sums like thousands of dollars)
zamxit To be honest, that perspective is very dangerous. Almost psychopathic... This game is more like an heritance that's available under certain conditions. Yes, the money is yours BUT you have to please the other player, therefore the money is not only yours.
jjspot It's true you have to consider the other person but what if we were talking about your life savings? You'd essentially be a hostage to their level of contentment because they have nothing to lose, only something to gain, whereas you only have something to lose. In the context of empathy the taker should be content with any amount; would you find it right to take half of someone's life savings when you really don't know them or deserve any of it? I'd say it's more psychopathic to gamble with someone's money with no risk at all than the giver's act of self preservation
I would say that the two with the 100% looked like infatuation rather than empathy. However, I'm still waiting to see a video about the science of empathy.
The science we learn in school never comes to use. Because how the flying fk am I gonna use the DNA and the way a leaf work to pay my rent every month?
If you're married/together, give them all of it (buy burgers together afterwards??), if you're strangers/have a meagre relationship, split it in half??
Had me and my girlfriend played this game i would have given her all the cash & she would have given me nothing & we would have won. She knows i hate carrying cash on me 😭😂 I’m not bad with my money, but i feel it goes a lot faster when you aren’t able to keep track of how much you’re spending 24/7. I don’t have it in me to keep a mental tab each time i spend. I like the simplicity of just checking my account 🤷🏾♂️😂
I don't get it. Why wouldn't you accept it, you get nothing by turning it away. Also it really just makes sense to me to just split it 50/50. Also it was such a small amount of money, so there weren't any real stakes, so I think that probably influenced people here.
I understand the point of this game, but why decline the other persons offer? It would make the most sense to accept any offer except for an offer of $0. Why? Because at least your getting a bit of money. My first thought if I was the person with money would be to offer $1. If the person isn't filled with spite, then they should understand the concept enough to accept the offer because at least they would get a dollar.
How did the black and white guy know each other? Every other pair we knew their relationship to each other. This is important to me because I couldn’t figure out why the white guy was wanting more of the money. He made a big deal out of not feeling it was okay to give any more than he did.
Empathy is only relevant because they have a relationship with the recipient right? Since the recipient would feel some entitlement for their personal relationship? If they were a total stranger the empathy focus would shift to the recipient rather than the giver wouldn’t it? I feel like in a situation where the money is yours from the beginning and the recipient is a total stranger, the recipient should be scrutinised for empathy because they should realise they’re taking money from someone and shouldn’t expect much/should be grateful they’re getting any (as they aren’t entitled to any), instead of endangering the other person’s money. If they possess high empathy they would know not to take so much of someone’s money, and would accept anything as they wouldn’t want the person to lose anything. In the vid, even if the giver offered more it’s really just a means to safeguard their own possessions, since they are considering what amount will appease the other party before they lose everything. It’s determining a Nash equilibrium based on judgement of the recipient’s character and predicted satisfaction level rather than a test of one’s empathy, no? I don’t see how empathy is relevant when there is no context behind the recipient (like struggling, homeless etc), and if they were a total stranger empathy seems further out of the equation. It’s more of a judgement of how selfish/empathetic the other person is rather than how selfish/empathetic the giver is.
I wish you could just subscribe to a certain series on a channel and not have to subscribe to every video the channel puts out. I wanna follow this series, but I don't want a notification every time they upload any video.
I'm really suprised more people didn't just give 10 dollars it seems like the most straight forward thing to do.
Yeah I feel the same, I don't understand how people had to think about it at all... If I was with the person, I'd give them all of it, cause "what's mine is yours" and I share money in my relationships anyway. If it was a stranger, or someone I'm not close to, I'd have given $10, we're both getting the same amount, why not??
Splitting $20 is easy. Now make it $20 million and things will get interesting.
@@allanfaigao4677 that`s a very good point you are making. How would the amount at stake change the dynamics? I can imagine that for those couples that are wildly in love with each other (like those two girls) the amount would not change anything. You could probably put $2 billion on the table, and the result would be the same. However, if a relationship is driven by reason, tactics, powerplays ... the results could be vastly different and highly unpredictable, I guess.
I'm really surprised more people didn't just split the money 50/50. That was my immediate reaction.
Ibno Zizou gay
Same
That's what I think too, but then I decided it's against the spirit of the excercise... it's an ultimatum, not a comprimise.
In that vein, I'd offer 8 dollars. Extracting as much as I can while being sure that the offer is palatable.
@@InternetMameluq I don't think it's against the spirit of the exercise. You can offer literally any amount that would be satisfactory to the other person and that is $0 to $20. My first thought was, that if I sat at the table, I'd probably go with 10/10 because it's fair for both sides and thus easy to accept. The variety of results came as a surprise to me, quite frankly.
@@SpokenStuff That's not an ultimatum though, an ultimatum is unfair.
*The old couple is so loving & adorable*
This is actually an exercise in game theory that shows that we aren't purely rational beings. A purely rational person would accept any offer because you're better off with even just one dollar compared to nothing. I guess it's our sense of justice/fairness that tells us not to accept an offer we perceive as unfair even if it is objectively worse for us.
Wow, very compelling perspective! Thank you for sharing!!
Yes! We have a lot of human biases while negotiating and most times we just go with our gut feeling rather than rational thinking. And that's why maybe some day humans will be replaced by negotiating AI.
Meg Guzman but on the other hand, if we meet this person again they will remember that they can't do what they want with us. That might benefit us in the future.
My thoughts exactly. Those cousins were illogical. Also, how do you not like your cousin enough to split it 50/50? That's family, man.
Wow, amazing to see such different reactions! And that couple who gave all 20 is so beautiful, nearly made me cry too. Both couples were very sweet actually
I almost cried too
Nearly. Well I guess someone was cutting onions around me as I was bawling.
I don't understand why people just don't offer an even amount. anything less is infair
Especially between strangers. If it's between friends, it might pass off as a joke but if it's just strangers, that's 100% greed.
"That's my baby; I'll give her... anything." I'm crying at the love in her voice.
The lesbian couple needs their own show, they are SO CUTE!!!
Yes!
They were on a show called stripped
Relationship goals: newlywed lesbians!
I MISSED THIS SERIES!
This activity is actually an example of game theory which is more or less about rational/strategic decision making. I could see how it could potentially be related to empathy, but I don't think it's that tightly related. I was also hoping Julian would mention that empathy is different from sympathy because empathy means you are able to share in a person's feelings because you have experienced the same (or similar) thing that they currently are, while sympathy means you can be supportive/compassionate, but you can't exactly understand their feelings because you have not had that experience. Both are good to practice, but I think it's an important distinction to make.
I want a love like that lesbian couple's
yesss don't we all
That younger married couple though!!! So sweet!
I would easily give my partner all the money because they gonna buy me dinner! 😂
that's definitely one way to look at it! 😂
Agreed!!!
😂😂😂😂😂
You should have put a full stop, or period if you prefer, after the word money - and delete the rest of your comment. ;-)
What happened too equal shares?
The Libra is always about balance 🤗
B. Christine
I'm a ♊ and I would have done exactly the same. The guy in the blue and the cousins are just wrong in my opinion.
I MISSED THIS SHOW SO MUCH
The young couple literally broke my heart from all the feels!!!! WAY TOO ADORABLE!!!!
I can't imagine keeping any of it unless I was literally hungry and had absolutely NO money!! You could make someones day for a lousy $20. Are we all really so starved for a few bucks? We all see how beautiful it was when the one woman gave her Love the whole amount... Nicely done.
Julian! I love how you break facts down with such a caring and yet unbiased attitude. We definitely need more videos with you breaking awesome science down brotha!!! Peace, love, light and happiness to you and all the other Soul Pancakers :-D
Love that Julian is back! :)
I love this style of video so much!
I'm sooo happy you're back again!
Regardless of the precise definitions, this video was a bit of an eye-opener for me. There are definitely situations, most recently when I talk with and about gay people, where I find it much more logical to imagine what they are feeling than to imagine me being in the same positon. However, I'm sure that in more everyday situations, where I have been in the same position as the other person, I too often only look at how I felt or would feel, rather than how the other person is actually feeling about said position. After all, it's about the emotions that are actually being felt and not about the ones that would be 'logical' to feel. :)
aah, that last sentence! great perspective, we really appreciate your your thoughts and ideas :)
i am so happy that this is coming back!!
Me too! Me too!
Omg yesssss I love those series ! So happy you created a new one 😍✌🏻
and we're so happy you love it just as much as we loved making it!
This is awesome!!! This video really highlights the fact that you don't have to go through what someone else is going through in order to feel the emotion that they feel.
An argument I hear frequently from people who have a ton of privilege is that they don't know what it's like not to have it so they can't understand how someone without their same privillage would feel. That's sympathy and not as helpful as empathy. Connecting with emotions of others is hard.
THE COUPLE WHO OFFERED $20 IS SO BEAUTIFUL.
I missed these videos so much
the gay couple was so cute! and they started crying at the same time i was like “same”
That was beautiful, both those couples who shared more with others
We all are born with insecurities , when some mirror it and show some care about it....that's EMPATHY
I missed this and caught it when I saw the second vid! Could you maybe put 'science of empathy' on the thumbnail so it does get lost in the sea of videos? Already enjoying these immensely
Good to have you back 😉
For the next part series Soulpancake should do a series on 'The science of Hope and optimism' since it has already covered most of the other positive emotions.
Julian! Your back! I love your "Science of ---" series! 😄👍
The lesbian couple was actual on a reality tv show called Stripped! They were just as adorable there!
such a fine episode. beautiful and gratifying insight.
I missed this series so much
aah, didn't we all?! time to enjoy!
I really learned something insteresting today!
So glad to hear it!
Dal Jaam what did you learn
Jello k. I learned that empathy could play a deep role in a process of making decisions that actually are gonna impact to people's happiness. It would be no more about putting yourself into people's position to make the choice they probably would make if they were in your place, but to make the right choice based on how they would feel out of your action.
Normally I would go 50/50. But the Hawthorne Effect would kick in causing me to probably give all the money.
Awww! Both the married couples were so cute
Whatever the offer might be, the person accepting should take whatever is on offer as they will be better off. (S1 still better than $0). But a fun lil' video with great production value btw! :)
The guy with 1$ theory is right. But not only about what he said. Here's another.
If you gave them 21$ to share, I could almost guarantee almost 3/10 pairs would share it 2/3 to 1/3 in personal advance.
And if you would have gave them that money - not telling them amount - and tell them to split 50/50... Who gets a dollar more?
LOVED this!
This is so awesome. 😄❤
i love this series so much
im trying to find a video they put money in a box , jubilee vibe. not on this channel
I LOVE THIS !!
Bob Marley would dislike this video and be like: 'Possession make you rich? I don’t have that type of richness. My richness is life, forever.'
6:22 they're so cute stooooop 😭
I dont think this is about empathy and more whats the least amount i can give this person so i dont lose the money so really its self preservation
Perhaps that's the lesson of the experiment. Those who acted out of self preservation were not being as empathetic as those who took a moment to feel what the other person would feel receiving a certain amount of money.
Agreed. I also think empathy could be studied both ways... the person accepting it would feel empathetic to the person that offered. The guy who got 8 dollars could be happy his friend got to keep 12. Where as the one that rejected the offer didn't have empathy towards his cousin.
One dollar is one dollar more than you had :-) This is emotion over logic.
I LOVE THE NEWLYWEDS AHHHH THEYRE SO SWEET
I wish they had also broken it down by the relationships people have with each other. Married people figure they already share that money. It is different in other relationships.
That lesbian couple made me cry 😭❤️💕
The old and the gay couple were so cute, I want this.
Don't let this distract you from the fact that Eminem is back and his freestyle is dope🔥🔥🔥
Haha Eminem is a dope artist. But maybe there's enough time in the day to watch both Eminem and SoulPancake ;)
I love your response SoulPancake :) Very empathetic and also dope
well-done video!
5:35 This Ultimatum Exchange made me very uncomfortable. ☹️ The guy in the blue shirt gave himself $12 and only offered $8 to the baseball cap guy which made him settle. It basically put the cap-wearing dude in a situation where HE HAD TO SETTLE FOR LESS (self-sacrifice) or both parties would lose which might tick off the other guy. Blue shirt guy... I don't know you, but that move seemed VERY SELFISH. 😑 In the future, please offer 50/50 so it's fair for BOTH PARTIES or be a generous gentleman and offer the other party MORE. #Done
lialiakicks I agree but also think about a perspective where the $20 was yours from the beginning, you’re giving away a sum of money from your own pocket for nothing in exchange to total stranger. That would change things wouldn’t it? It’d kinda be like well they should be grateful they’re getting any money at all, there’s no context behind the other person they’re literally just endangering your money (if you think of larger sums like thousands of dollars)
zamxit To be honest, that perspective is very dangerous. Almost psychopathic... This game is more like an heritance that's available under certain conditions. Yes, the money is yours BUT you have to please the other player, therefore the money is not only yours.
jjspot It's true you have to consider the other person but what if we were talking about your life savings? You'd essentially be a hostage to their level of contentment because they have nothing to lose, only something to gain, whereas you only have something to lose. In the context of empathy the taker should be content with any amount; would you find it right to take half of someone's life savings when you really don't know them or deserve any of it? I'd say it's more psychopathic to gamble with someone's money with no risk at all than the giver's act of self preservation
zamxit I think you are right that it's how you look at the money. If I had to divide the money, I would not think it as my money.
If it was a stranger, I would have given $10. If it was someone I know, I would have given them $20.
I would say that the two with the 100% looked like infatuation rather than empathy.
However, I'm still waiting to see a video about the science of empathy.
Playing with married couples or friends defeats the validity of the exercise. It only makes sense if it's between strangers who won't interact again
the married couples both were so lovely, i
I love this
The science we learn in school never comes to use. Because how the flying fk am I gonna use the DNA and the way a leaf work to pay my rent every month?
wiik wiik Lol
It would help pay rent if you wanted to become a scientist studying plants or DNA
Change your nickname, coz inappropriate as of today. ;-)
Guys, who is else here by the recommendation/reference of Yuval Noah Harari?
I’m swooning over the girl with the hat she’s gorgeous
If you're married/together, give them all of it (buy burgers together afterwards??), if you're strangers/have a meagre relationship, split it in half??
Exactly. Therefore it was silly to include married couples in the experiment. But it created emotion porn which is popular content.
The women at the end 🤧❤️
They can just share the $20 later after the interview by giving $20. It is just an intelligence test rather than the empathy experiment.
Can I add Turkish subtitle to your videos??
Had me and my girlfriend played this game i would have given her all the cash & she would have given me nothing & we would have won. She knows i hate carrying cash on me 😭😂 I’m not bad with my money, but i feel it goes a lot faster when you aren’t able to keep track of how much you’re spending 24/7. I don’t have it in me to keep a mental tab each time i spend. I like the simplicity of just checking my account 🤷🏾♂️😂
The two girls made me cry
I don't get it. Why wouldn't you accept it, you get nothing by turning it away. Also it really just makes sense to me to just split it 50/50.
Also it was such a small amount of money, so there weren't any real stakes, so I think that probably influenced people here.
it should have been 19 dollars to make everything more spicy
If it's only 20 bucks you better offer me 10. 😂
I understand the point of this game, but why decline the other persons offer? It would make the most sense to accept any offer except for an offer of $0. Why? Because at least your getting a bit of money. My first thought if I was the person with money would be to offer $1. If the person isn't filled with spite, then they should understand the concept enough to accept the offer because at least they would get a dollar.
I'm surprised more people didn't do a 50/50 split
How did the black and white guy know each other? Every other pair we knew their relationship to each other. This is important to me because I couldn’t figure out why the white guy was wanting more of the money. He made a big deal out of not feeling it was okay to give any more than he did.
i think there were more people who gave 10 dollars but they did not put them because they wanted to show different reactions
I’m having trouble seeing the difference between both emotions. I felt like all the participants were being empathetic.
The lesbian couple are so cute. I cried. Probably because of my emotional bias towards gay people lmao.
Why didn't they give 50/50? Was that not allowed?
If the guy in the coat flapped his ears. He could probably fly away.
I would just give the other person half so they can't get mad at me if we both have the same amount...
0:05 *I have a beard now*
I thought sympathy was suffering with someone since sym- means with in greek
OH MYGOOOOD THE GIRL WHO GAVE HER WIFE THE WHOLE 20$ I WANT A LOVE LIKE THAT
Someone give me a relationship like that lesbian couple's! They were so sweet 😭
But what is the Nash equilibrium?!?!
Empathy is only relevant because they have a relationship with the recipient right? Since the recipient would feel some entitlement for their personal relationship? If they were a total stranger the empathy focus would shift to the recipient rather than the giver wouldn’t it?
I feel like in a situation where the money is yours from the beginning and the recipient is a total stranger, the recipient should be scrutinised for empathy because they should realise they’re taking money from someone and shouldn’t expect much/should be grateful they’re getting any (as they aren’t entitled to any), instead of endangering the other person’s money. If they possess high empathy they would know not to take so much of someone’s money, and would accept anything as they wouldn’t want the person to lose anything.
In the vid, even if the giver offered more it’s really just a means to safeguard their own possessions, since they are considering what amount will appease the other party before they lose everything. It’s determining a Nash equilibrium based on judgement of the recipient’s character and predicted satisfaction level rather than a test of one’s empathy, no? I don’t see how empathy is relevant when there is no context behind the recipient (like struggling, homeless etc), and if they were a total stranger empathy seems further out of the equation. It’s more of a judgement of how selfish/empathetic the other person is rather than how selfish/empathetic the giver is.
I wish you could just subscribe to a certain series on a channel and not have to subscribe to every video the channel puts out. I wanna follow this series, but I don't want a notification every time they upload any video.
The two wifes are relationship goals honestly
Oh man the lesbian couple was so insanely cutr
But why would you refuse ? Because I’m the end, 5$ is better than nothing
It was silly to include married couples in the experiment. But it created emotion porn which is popular content.
I clicked because I thought that was Miranda Sings! 😁
I wanna play
When you're a couple you share the money anyways don't you? 😂 so it doesn't matter what you give them
Exactly. Therefore it was silly to include those couples in the experiment. But it created emotion porn which is popular content.