Anchor: Charlie Rose firing reminded me of how I was degraded
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- Опубліковано 21 лис 2017
- HLN's Erica Hill, a former co-anchor of CBS "This Morning," says that when she learned former colleague Charlie Rose was fired from CBS for sexual harassment, it made her reflect on all the times she was demeaned and degraded in the workplace over the course of her career at numerous networks.
I use to watch CBS This Morning, JUST TO SEE ERICA HILL!
And was physically hurt when she was replaced!!!
THE MEDIA IS CRUMBLING WE LOVE IT
tarxs
I'm a man who supports all of these women. Good for you. Go get'em
As a young woman working for a large grocery chain, I endured many inappropriate comments, phone calls at my home, hearing the unique sound of my supervisors diesel car, frequently drive by my home, leaving gifts between my storm dr& front dr, which I returned to him at work discreetly with the help of his female assistant. He never touched me, but verbally expressed interest in doing so. It creeped me out, he was my father's age, I was 20. My God, and as I continued on in the workforce for 42 years, I saw so many men, smart, intelligent men, act this way at the Government office I worked at, one getting fired. Predators they are called, and many were what I would consider a friend, a friend with a serious problem.
@reneetuer3525 It’s an epidemic. So tragic, too. Everyone loses.
Yes, it's true that attractive young women get hit on, and sometimes abused by older men in the media industry. Since we're in this national mood for truth telling, let's also admit that a lot of women get ahead because they are attractive, and men with power want to hit on them, not because they have the most talent.
Leonardo di C3PO - Exactly! And you know what, this shit will backfire on attractive women unfortunately
Isn’t it known as the casting couch syndrome
I remember viewing this show and noticing how this insecure man would belittle Erica Hill. It was "painful"
to watch. Not at all surprised that she finally came out and spoke about it. I hope you are healed Erica.
I noticed him pointing at her and I totally misinterpreted that as him gesturing for her take. I'm so angry that he did that right in front of us!
Sad that the producers and all managerial staff that knew of this, because make no mistake it was not a secret are still employed
This explains why the media covered slick Willie's ass for so many years.
Granny Loca - He should be removed from office. Oh wait....
Bullshit,just last year msnbc, cnn and abc all said Billjob clintons accusers had all been "debunked" allegations were"unsubstantiated "and that Paula Jones should have to give back her 850.000$ settlement with clinton for going to debate with Trump's family because by attending she " in essence "broke the non disclosure agreement". STFU l actually lived through the press coverage of slick Willie.
Granny Loca - So you're saying he should be removed from office?
no of course not! he should be in prison.
Ghostwriter OK I guess you're going full blown liar,just like cnn.
While we learn of cases where women are being groped, inappropriately touched, raped and forced by their bosses to perform sexual favours, Erica Hill comes out of no where to tell us that she was "pointed at", and that some how that is "Just as bad" as ACTUAL sexual harassment? PLEASE!!!!!!!!! #AttentionSeeking
@walterhigo7658 The abuse she suffered is still very hideous. That old man, who pointed that bony finger at her was a teeny tiny mean soul. He was a BULLY, and he was CRUEL. Don’t you underestimate the power of humiliation and cruelty.
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How was he cruel or a bully to Erica Hill?
She never said that.....
It is very disrespectful to ACTUAL victims of sexual abuse, to compare their situation to a situation of "finger pointing". Let's be serious!!!
@@walterhigo7658 Yes, I agree that finger pointing is far different than sexual abuse. Let me add that I do not think that it was Charlie Rose who was the Mr. Finger Pointer she referred to. She said it happened early in her career. Just wanted to clear that up.
To be totally honest, the Finger Pointer‘s attitude and vibe is the issue. I admit that I wasn’t there to hear his tone of voice. I’m suspicious that he had a mean spirit. I don’t see male co-anchors using the fingerpoint method of back and forth dialogue during sports broadcasts.
The Finger Pointer was rude, at best. When you truly respect someone, and aren’t threatened by or resentful of their presence, you don’t fingerpoint to let them know when it’s OK to speak. There is something very petty and mean about that Maybe he did that with male co-anchors, too. I think that it is still rather low-level behavior. It says, “I want the power, and I’m senior to you, so this is how I roll.” 👈🏻👉🏻
These so-called rookie initiation tactics are passive aggressive forms of bullying, and have been tolerated so long that they are considered “paying your dues.” No, that is called being a passive aggressive dominator, and there is a price to be paid. I’m guilty of being mean to people. We’re all guilty. Whether at work or outside of work, we’ve all done doo-doo to people. We will either repent and humbly receive God’s mercy through His Son’s, Christ’s, shed blood, or we will foolishly justify ourselves, and stand on (false) self-righteousness and pay eternally in Hell. For me, I choose repentance and accept God’s mercy, because I know otherwise I’d be in Hell forever. You know, it only takes one sin to deserve Hell forever. I most certainly have more than one sin! So, I accept the MERCY!
It is sad that people think that it’s OK to mistreat others!!! It’s not, never has been, and never will be! In the end, as Dr, Jordan Peterson says, “Nobody gets away with anything!!”
@walterhigo7658 We don’t have the full context but as it was described in the video, it didn’t even deserve a mention.
This is a great example of the pent up anger of frustration of decades of an unequal playing field of oppression and suppression
So now its not about sexual harassment, its about mean and bossy bosses? This is something everyone has to deal with, male and female bosses can be mean. Maybe women arent cut out for the pressures of business.
Erica hill!!! son well said! thank you thank you!
I think we are mixing issues here. The "don't speak until I point at you", very possibly had nothing to do with "sexual harassment" and everything to do with seniority and experience. She admit she was in her early 20's and he was in his 70's. You aren't automatically on the same level. The sexual stuff is completely inappropriate and should be handled harshly. But, each accusation and each case needs to judged on the evidence for that case.
Exactly as long as he did not touch her, verbally abuse her or ask her for sexual favors. Pointing at someone is not harassment. Erica Hill has no case, she works in the media and often times pointing is necessary to avoid overtalking in front of the camera. She is really talking about nothing, she acts like a woman with ADD. A victim remembers what happened to them but she is going back and forth, not making eye contact with the host.
This is probably why, in my opinion, Erica Hill was at her best when she was on Anderson Cooper's show on CNN.
Erica is a fantastic professional. I am so very sorry and angry about the crap that she has had to go through and endure in her industry. She shouldn't have to endure this kind of crap, ever, anywhere.
Erica Hill is hot.
Wow people are actually falling for these crocodile tears
A leader pointing to you to give you a turn to speak in a meeting? Is that what she is talking about?
The minds of the higher paids go to great lengths when their respected jobs are threatened.
I'm so glad Erica spoke out! I myself have endured horrid verbal abuse in the past.
Did you speak out? Probably not. If a lady acts classy and not like a sleazy bitch, men maintain their distance in 99.99% of the time. Social warrior.
Because we now, live in a society where you are guilty until proven innocent.
Seniority = power 🤷🏻♀️
Wha? Her claim in sexual harassment is that she had to take turns in talking???
I always thought that's what all descent people do? Every where I worked we listen to the boss and speak when asked a question!
Its not safe to be single anymore.
I loved Erica Hill on CBS This Morning but often wondered why when Gayle King joined on the 2nd or 3rd hour, they would not let her talk. Like, Gayle was officially there for the entertainment hour but yet they had Erica doing all of the talking and Gayle barely said anything. Like I loved Erica and felt that she was flawlessin her verbal sharing but why have Gayle on if they were not going to let her say anything. Then all of a sudden Erica was gone. I was like,wait what... I'm sure alot was/is dictated by ratings or the lack there of. Sorta a cut throat industry in my opinion.
Thank you Erica Hill and thank you to all who find their voice and choose to speak out against wrongdoings.
Thank you for sharing your story.
Imagine having to "perform" like this for Clown News Network. Erica is better than this.
They can't give up on the delusion that someone they liked so much was doing creepy things. And that translates to abuse to their victims.
Having worked with Erica Hill while she was at CBS, I can say that she is smart, witty, knew everybody's name and had a great sense of humor. There were no traces of diva-like behavior (except we were told when we leave her presence to never show your back to her until you exit the studio/room....No, wait, that's The Crown. There is a downside to binge watching).She is simply stating that your view about something can change in light of the context or new circumstances. She never said she was assaulted nor was she begging for sympathy. I did see the Charlie "finger pointing prompting" which he did with the other co-hosts as well. I don't know if they found it amusing at the time but after he left in disgrace saw it in a different light. I don't know if this interview directing was approved or sanctioned by the Executive Producer.I do have a "What If" question. Suppose Jane Pauley, Barbara Walters or Diane Sawyer were asked to be part of the cast of CBS This Morning and the other co-hosts were John Dickerson and Jeff Glor. If the female co-host "quarterbacked" the interviews and acted as a traffic cop, would the other male anchors object and find it demeaning OR would they see it as the elder correspondent exerting her role as the senior person? Is it a paternalistic issue or a case of deferring to the more seasoned person? Based on the pattern of most local/national news where a younger female host is usually paired with an older male host, we may never be able to experience that scenario.
Erica, we feel for you. And here's what people are thinking about your presentation (taken from the Comments below):
"Wtf actually happened to her? Legitimate victims of sexual assault have a hard time getting a conviction because of BS cases like this one."
"So now it's not about sexual harassment, it's about mean and bossy bosses? This is something everyone has to deal with, male and female bosses can be mean. Maybe women aren't cut out for the pressures of business."
"While we learn of cases where women are being groped, inappropriately touched, raped and forced by their bosses to perform sexual favours, Erica Hill comes out of nowhere to tell us that she was "pointed at" and that somehow that is "Just as bad" as ACTUAL sexual harassment? PLEASE!!!!!!!!!"
"He asked you to go for a cup of coffee...OMG I'd get nightmares every night. That's coffee rape."
"I am a Chinese naturalized American citizen. I always think American news reporters are borderline ADHD near the brink of a nervous breakdown all the time. I was puzzled until now."
"So only women have been mistreated? I guess for every man on Earth, every day is just awesome, except for the men who died fighting wars, the men who were murdered, the men who were bullied, the men who were molested, the men who were falsely imprisoned for crimes they didn't commit, the men who lost their jobs during recessions, the men who were killed by radical Islamic terrorists, the men who died in mass shootings, the men who lost money in divorces because of gold digging women, the men who've been discriminated against because of their race, ethnicity, or sexual orientation, and I guess a few others."
What Erica Hill described about her boss when she was 21 is on point disgusting. What Erica Hill described about Charlie Rose was merely the result of her taking a job with an established star. In the star system, which is based on ratings, the star is supposed to run the show in the way that makes the star a star. Not all stars want their staff to shine. Charlie Rose apparently harassed other women abusively. Egomaniac might fit the facts as described in the case of Charlie Rose’s pointing at Erica Hill. I’ve worked for several egomaniacal stars. If you want to learn from them, even as a man, one learns that one needs to do one’s job by speaking when asked to speak (putting a nicer gloss on the rudeness).
Banter has always been part of office life. The rules got to be unfathomable for decent men and women in the 1970s, when the glass ceiling began to be broken. What would be helpful to all might be a delineation between what can be said and what can Not be said or done. Apparently, after 40 years, nobody knows. Why not? The lines should be clear. Dress codes too.
Charlie Rose acted sooooooo genteel, and yet WAS harassing women. Shame on him!
Kudos to Erica Hill, especially for not discussing how his old man stink had undoubtedly caused her olefactory distress as well.
She sounds legitimately pissed and she held in her anger....
The prostitution trade in the United States is estimated to generate $14 billion a year. A 2012 report by Fondation Scelles indicated that there were an estimated 1 million prostitutes in the U.S.
And yet Trump is the President in a country where the criteria to run for President doesn't catch these things.
I thought thats how media operates normally, some one points at, or cues a reporter when its time to speak. Directors always point. I dont understand how we went from sexual harassment allegations to mean, or bossy bosses? Mean and bossy bosses is not just a male thing, but they are inferring its a male problem. Is Erica Hill trying to protect herself from criticism because she knew about Charlie Rose and said nothing? The whole thing seems strange.
Erica Hill is the type of woman men love to sexually harass! She's a real sparkle!
Erica Hill is so pretty. She looks exactly like my ex-girlfriend Tracey Williamson, but Tracey is black. Nevertheless, I'm glad Charlie Rose was terminated.
Erica, you are an Angel sent from God. Thank you for speaking out against these perverted scum bag demons. You and your husband are a match made in Heaven ❤️
Sounds like someone is trying to set up a lawsuit against Charlie Rose.
This ... is why I haven't had a television for decades. The men and women of television-land live in an alternate world. Well-fed, entitled, yet needy, embittered and veneer thin, inauthentic personas. Nightmare material.
How can she claim "lasting scars" when she just admitted she had forgotten past incidents or perceived injustices and her friends had to remind her of what she had commented to them years ago?
This is really tragic! This man was alone, and fully misunderstood and not being treated with compassion. Listen to the music of JD Souther You’re only lonely and stop thinking about your career and making big money. All these women are having huge salaries and big fortunes and do not show any respect to the men, who helped them to become famous. REBT of Albert Ellis: unconditional self acceptance, which automatically leads to unconditional other acceptance. That’s the paradise before Adam preferred the apple!
Work should be about work. The director, not one of the co-hosts, should be in charge of who is asking the next question, he's the one in charge of the people operating the cameras. Wouldn't want to be a camera operator at CBS, got to keep one eye on Charlie's finger, see where it moves.Erica Hill is her husband's wife, and her children's mother. A quality boss would ask her how her kids are doing in school for a conversation starter, maybe ask her if she'd like a cup of coffee, and then go get her one from the vending machine. It's called being a gentleman.
@EddieReischl Thank you. You seem to be one of the EXTREMELY FEW men who are NOT mocking Erica Hill and invalidating her mistreatment. THANK YOU for speaking up. THANK YOU for standing for treating women right. Please know that there are still women out there who appreciate gentlemen like you!!! ❤️
Yes...put up with it since my first job..phone soliciting..boss says..do or say whatever you have to do to sell product..anything
did they even look at the case or claims . or just stick to your gender preferences .
I feel devastated ...
So....she is upset about a pointed finger gesture?
It's fucked up, but where does this go? Cancelled shows aren't resolution. Doesn't help any restitution either. It's over-correction.
Im not going away. If its uncomfortable for them.. their going through growing pains. Im right where God moved me.
It's not like he spiked her coffee with "Spanish fly" and had his way with her in the dress room
Inviting someone for coffee is sexual harassment?
Listening is fundamental. Try again.
It has to start somewhere. Coffee is it
If it's your boss who's asking, probably yes
It could be.
It could be.
This seems like a skit. Is she reading a teleprompter... She sounds like she practiced this long and hard like a judge jeanie opening monologue
She does not make any sense. Was she sexually harassed? She says Charlie Rose did not harass her yet she is going off tangents.
listen to it from the beginning before you show yourself as the fool.
asking someone out for coffee or saying they want to kiss them is not sexual harassment
delirous8- you feminist are odd af. I tell you what.
Oh I never even saw this guys wife and I never had a desire to find out. Some of them have taken them out to eat. But certainly their not coming on to him. Give me a break.
Didn't Erica work for Andersoom for nearly a decade?
Charlie Rose always creeped me out ,from his droopy skin to his yes always 3/4 shut
eyes 3/4
Ya what a scumbag that freak is !
Wtf actually happened to her? Legitimate victims of sexual assault have a hard time getting a conviction because of BS cases like this one.
Horrible working conditions.
I suppose that the subtext of what Erica Hill and that intern who was allegedly called in to clear old his alleged feces-encrusted toilet were saying is a quote from Moe Sislak, from The Simpsons: “And yer stink brings tears to my eyes!”
Add all this to the UW dr. >to getting disgusting to the point of danger.
I'm not for a minute defending what Charlie Rose did, but this Erica Hill is *so* melodramatic I burst out laughing watching her. And I'm a woman myself.
I don't think she caught the brunt of the pervy stuff, but yeah I've seen all the power sex play myself. I think it's a smart thing to let people know you don't play that shite. I was in an office girl in the 80s with men as my superiors. Yeah. They could tell I was a loose cannon. It's ok to let people know you're a tad on edge. I would have either rolled my eyes, or laughed at a naked guy coming at me and gone about my business really. On a lighter note, I can't help think of Mr. Rogers. They were friends and Rose interviewed him. How disappointed Mr. Rogers would be to see how Charlie Rose really was on the inside.
Like when one of the church elders showed roses flowers at me saying yeah right. As if I bought flowers for that pastor. Its how we get treated after they make their dirty mistakes. Its suddenly us.
I am a Chinese naturalized American citizen. I always think american news reporters are border line ADHD near the brink of nervous breakdown all the time. I was puzzled until now.
Wait! Did Brooke Baldwin just Point at her? 😭
Interview REAL victims NOT this ninny. Good Grief!!!!
Sara V shut up! Unless you actually know what these fucking people go through, shut the hell up
What a brave, brave victim. That must've been incredibly traumatic, being asked to go for *coffee*
The problem is not the coffee. The problem is being treated like you should quit your job because you won't bow to their sexual needs
Poor babies ....women enabled these guys by setting up other women...and then ignoring their complaints ...and how could this go so far if women didn’t hush it up...so their personal careers were more important the the well-being of their female peers....women Aren’t friends with other women....and this poor dear what did she endure ? Her boss asked her out for coffee?
Donald Trump maybe next. And then, Sean Hannity.
I always liked Erica Hill but have to wonder if some of what she is referring to was based on her "jr. position" on the show - which is not unreasonable - or her gender? I'd like to know more about that - are "jr." males subject to similar limitations or just females?
Its a good idea to set up your phone's camera to document this bullshit.
I dont think the shower was a necessary tour to switch membership. Either. But im kind. So I politely dismiss things. Until ut comes back to bite me. Then I bite back.
Imagine being able to tap that
Wait a second, if your questions were super' smart and you asked questions better than anybody, you´d have been conducting your own show. Maybe you had to go through a learning process, I don´t know. I just don´t see anything wrong with somebody pointing at you as a cue to have your input. Men should never use their power to force themselves onto women but bringing this finger pointing thing as if it were remotely related to sexual harassment is too much. It sounds like the sexual harassment case gave you a chance to bring out your own demons relating to the story of this man.
WTF she's rambling about??? OMG this is insane! Now make me think why they didn't want women in the workplace...SMH. Slap the hell out of them men and keep moving.
I think people need to grow a thicker skin
I want to be the cream between those two cookies
Lost If not that, can you picture them wearing short dresses, crossing their legs and having a thigh competition?
Can we all start sharing stories about the million grievances or slights that we've experienced throughout our lives? I just don't understand this new trend, every single person has had bad stuff in their lives, this is really weird. It also reeks of political opportunism for some reason, people are saying this is a reaction to Trump's presidency. Weird.
Where do you draw the line for fuck’s sake?!?!? Between real truth and media mass hysteria with clear yet very dark and somber purposes the line is more than somewhat blurry, by design
Oh my god!!! I didn't realize that every time my boss pointed at me I was actually being raped!!! I'd better go hashtag MeToo!!! Thank you for enlightening me!! I now realize that I too am a rape victim!!!
You're upset because your 70 year old coworker told you when to speak? How much more experience did he have than you? You were lucky to be learning under him. How many men weren't given that opportunity?
I'm not saying having more experience than someone gives a person a license to mistreat them. That is something that some abusive bosses try to get away with, and it should be stopped. But what you're describing isn't abusive behavior, it's mentorship. You should be grateful for the chance to learn under someone with so much more experience, and instead, you're self-entitled.
Sorry but Erica's intervention seemed opportunistic and self serving. She added absolute nothing new to the conversation.
I know right, she is just a thin skinned woman and seems opportunistic. She feels harassed cause her co-anchor wanted her to talk after he talks. Really. Isn't that what happens in co-anchor newscast. Also seniority is valued, the co-anchor who has most experience and years always goes first unless otherwise. That is etiquette. Weak segment, weak argument for her. Just an emotionalized woman trying to stir up stuff.
You are absolutely right. Erica is comparing ACTUAL sexual assault to the "Horror and Disgust" of her personal experiences that amount only to "having difficult co-workers". PLEASE!!!!!!
Yup, very thin skinned woman. Probably trying to cause trouble.
You go girl!
I've been a fan of Charlie Rose since I was in high school. I really respected him. But I believe Erica Hill.
Michael Self
Me too. I believe someone invited her to drink inappropriate coffee inappropriately.
He asked you to go for a cup of coffee...OMG I'd get nightmares every night. That's coffee rape.
I never realized Charlie Rose was like this.....hes not God and needs to come off his throne and face this musuc!
Sexism and rape culture need to stop!! I back all the ladies out there up
So she is whining because Rose was an a-hole? Lots of people in the office are a-holes. She wasn't a victim of sexual harassment, or is that what she is alleging?
Truth or not only they know it, but it reminded me of my rip supervisor touching my gluteus yes, he did, the saddest thing is that in our regular world we don't tell the media what happened x amount of years ago...no reason to shut up anymore, but don't wait for ever to do it, it loses credibility...sorry...even though it happen to me! Especially if you're going for the money.
Bullshit! Don't buy that for a second. Wonder how much she was paid for that awful acting....
She didn't like being reprimanded for overstepping?
Awwww.....
Stay on your side libtard, it's too late for you to act like you had any sense.
Uh huh...
If I want any more shit outta you, "ill squeeze your head, simpleton.
You would probably get more if you squeezed your own head.
Yes. You tell 'em, Sparky!
... simpleton...lol...
I was actually telling you, but I guess it's hard for you to grasp the obvious............Simpleton.
Charlie Rose was 75 years old still on tv. That was always creepy to me.
This is just so damn sad that these women had to go through this. All these men is power for so many years, and women feeling they had to take it to keep there jobs. Disgusting. I hate the word Allegations, makes it sound as if it may not have happened. When it Did. Proud of these women for finally speaking out. We all know there's many other men in power that are fearful and hiding under there so called beds, knowing they will soon be discovered. And they will be. Karma is a bitch.
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when pointing at someone has become a newsworthy gesture of such a terribly denigrating offense...
These "strong" women always fucking crying.
Stop whining. NOW you’re all coming out with this bull crap?
Didn’t have the guts when it affected your paycheck.