@@LemSportsinterviews2 is prob my favorite one but the gameplay is very unimpressive even when compared to other smt games that came out just a little later
I normally dont have a problem playing an older rpg but this is one of the clunkiest rpgs ive ever played Its almost charming how much of a “first try” of a game it is. Some decisions are baffling
@@draphking It's also very not fun, most battles strategies are just auto battle with your best moves also the tile system in battles is my biggest nightmare
I get what you mean by "first try" but it's weird hearing that when persona 1 sticks extremely close to the classic smt formula with a couple major alterations
This isn't quite a "first try" game, a lot of what's in here is just the usual old SMT stuff (high encounter rate/first person dungeon crawling/frustrating demon negotiation/expensive gear etc). The real suffering is trying to play the oldest Megami Tensei games which even lack basic things like a map. Imagine having to face a Persona 1 dungeon without a map, or needing to cast the "Mapper" spell everytime you need to confirm where tf you are. I'd say Persona 1 isn't that bad until the Final Dungeon, where the last savepoint is REALLY far from the Final Boss, who can be very frustrating. Also Snow Queen Quest has multiple layers of bs.
Been playing through the entire smt franchise in roughly order of release and so far the absolute worst encounter rate was in the smt1 government building, persona 1 isn't even in the discussion. Literally every 2-4 steps was an encounter. Only place in the game where the agro indicator was always full red. I guess it was only 1 area and not a whole game though...
I don't remember an aggro indicator in SMT1, but I only played the Super Famicom version of the game a couple years ago so idk. But what's especially bad about encounters in SMT1 is that at the end of battle you can get a "Enemies were attracted by the noise!" message and another encounter begins right then and there. If you think an encounter every step is bad try 3 encounters every step.
@@kbab5329 yeah i played the ps1 port seeing as that had an english fan translation. I played it earlier this year and i don't remember there being an "enemies were attracted" message but there were definitely consecutive encounters in the ps1 port as well. I'm pretty sure the 3 in a row encounters were mostly in that building too, so yeah 3 in a row, every 3 steps
The incredible thing is how the combat system itself ensures the battles last a long-ass while. In P2 you can at least just do an all-hitting fusion spell on your first turn and be done with it. I had a fairly good time completing the map scouting sidequests in EP because Tidal Wave would just wipe everyone out. And those sidequests require you to fill up every square of the dungeon's map!
On a remake I would like if they removed random encounters entirely and made symbol encounters instead. I like JRPGs but I always hated random encounters, good thing that they are gone for good in the SMT franchise.
This is actually better than the PS1 version where due to a programming bug the number of "safe" steps after an encounter is reduced to 0 as opposed to the intended 10 steps of peace. Couple that with a 20 second long Vishnu loading screen and slow as all hell battle animations and you've got yourself the true revelations experience.
What makes the encounter rate worse is how slow and tedious the battles feel. I tried playing Persona 1 about 2 months ago and after going through like 3 encounters, I just stopped playing and never went back. The only good thing is the battle music (both PS1 and PSP)
@TheRealRenAmamiya To be fair Persona 1 is a PS1 game, and the first game in the series. It's MUCH less clunky than the Shin Megami Tensei games that came before it. I think you have to judge older games on their own merits and not compare them to modern standards.
Currently watching a playthrough of the psp version and I swear I had to skip most of the time because of how many times the person was getting in a fight 💀
@@infinity999i0 excuse me, "Mr.I wanna cheese the game with a magicite guide" Persona 1 has: - Shit aliments - Expensive gear - Has shit movesets - Has shit attack ranges - Has shit group formations (like half reflect magic and half reflect physical) - Has a shit reset in the dungeon theme after battle (You will never hear the full theme without Estoma [Which will not work until you finish the dungeon]) - Has a shit EXP system that does not consider Healing in the scaling - Ect - Has Shit encounter rates - Has shit instakills
I think the psp version is better from what i've heard. I think you couldn't even speed up battles in the ps1 version, plus the localization is pretty trash
@ImDigas But you got into battles less often, and the soundtrack is WAY better. The localization is actually good, it just changes the setting and alters the character designs. But the actual plot and dialogue are solid. Like, go listen to the PS1 P1 OST sometime, it's night and day.
@@Jordan3DSI agree. While I do enjoy the psp soundtrack, I prefer the ps1 better as that soundtrack gives it a better atmosphere that the game has, plus despite the changes made to the characters, like you said, they did lower the encounter rate, To be honestly I found it somehow more tenseful as you never know when a next one could happen rather then having to experience every 5 or less steps.
It isn't bugged, it is different on purpose (kinda a good desicion but also bad), compared to the PS1, in the PSP you need nearly a quarter of the steps to get into a battle, but the enemies have nearly 70% of their original HP, they do less damage and drop half of their original money and exp the original idea was to make every encounter have the importance of a boss or mini-boss, but in the PSP edition it was changed to what we have now to make farming easier, and knowing how the encounter rate is so high they added ways to disable it like the skill estoma that completely disables random encounters for a time
@@reypato1738 How is it different on purpose if the encounter rate algorithm is ported directly from the PSX version? The reason encounters happen more often in the PSP version is that the PSP clock speed is 333MHz, whereas the PSX was 33MHz, which made it run the encounter algorithm faster than it should. Or at least, that's what the guy who made the encounter patch for the PSP version said. Also, where can I find the original stats of enemies for the PSX version? I thought they only made Persona 2 easier on PSP, but I guess I was wrong.
@@chronica6457 Checked the SMT wiki (which I know isn't good), and the only game that has different stats for enemies was Innocent Sin. But yeah, the games are probably easier on PSP than PSX mostly trough QOL.
Shitty gameplay Miserable encounter rates Mediocre direction specially in the dungeons It doesn't even have a story worth all that trouble And people attribute this to the game being "old" I've played smt1 and 2 (not finished them) and they're way better even tho are older
![Persona 1 Boss Thanatos [Expert]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/rPbbAuC-jmo/mqdefault.jpg)
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Don't worry pal, in persona 2 you can walk 10 step before the fight instead of 5.
really raises my expectations 😅 I'm planning on playing it after this
@@ImDigas 1 is by far the worst, 2 is goofy but the best one i think
The encounter rate in p2 is actually the biggest one in the series, at least in the psx version. Btw the psp port of p1 sucks
Dw we got estoma
@@LemSportsinterviews2 is prob my favorite one but the gameplay is very unimpressive even when compared to other smt games that came out just a little later
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Ahh I see Persona 1 definitely influenced yakuza 5 encounter rate as well
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yes but it gets irritating at some point and its only early game
The original is better
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This video encapsulates why people are down for a Persona 1 remake
Persona peaked with this gameplay, 3-5 wishes they could be this.
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I normally dont have a problem playing an older rpg but this is one of the clunkiest rpgs ive ever played
Its almost charming how much of a “first try” of a game it is. Some decisions are baffling
@@draphking It's also very not fun, most battles strategies are just auto battle with your best moves
also the tile system in battles is my biggest nightmare
I get what you mean by "first try" but it's weird hearing that when persona 1 sticks extremely close to the classic smt formula with a couple major alterations
I'd disagree with you there, I really like Persona 1. Amazing music (on the PS1 at least), a great cast, and super charming visuals and gameplay
This isn't quite a "first try" game, a lot of what's in here is just the usual old SMT stuff (high encounter rate/first person dungeon crawling/frustrating demon negotiation/expensive gear etc). The real suffering is trying to play the oldest Megami Tensei games which even lack basic things like a map. Imagine having to face a Persona 1 dungeon without a map, or needing to cast the "Mapper" spell everytime you need to confirm where tf you are. I'd say Persona 1 isn't that bad until the Final Dungeon, where the last savepoint is REALLY far from the Final Boss, who can be very frustrating. Also Snow Queen Quest has multiple layers of bs.
Yup. I played through 80% of Persona 1 and said "fuck it"
This game is truly... Uhm... Bad... I hate to say it but like it's simply terrible.
Been playing through the entire smt franchise in roughly order of release and so far the absolute worst encounter rate was in the smt1 government building, persona 1 isn't even in the discussion. Literally every 2-4 steps was an encounter. Only place in the game where the agro indicator was always full red. I guess it was only 1 area and not a whole game though...
I don't remember an aggro indicator in SMT1, but I only played the Super Famicom version of the game a couple years ago so idk. But what's especially bad about encounters in SMT1 is that at the end of battle you can get a "Enemies were attracted by the noise!" message and another encounter begins right then and there. If you think an encounter every step is bad try 3 encounters every step.
@@kbab5329 yeah i played the ps1 port seeing as that had an english fan translation. I played it earlier this year and i don't remember there being an "enemies were attracted" message but there were definitely consecutive encounters in the ps1 port as well. I'm pretty sure the 3 in a row encounters were mostly in that building too, so yeah 3 in a row, every 3 steps
The incredible thing is how the combat system itself ensures the battles last a long-ass while. In P2 you can at least just do an all-hitting fusion spell on your first turn and be done with it. I had a fairly good time completing the map scouting sidequests in EP because Tidal Wave would just wipe everyone out. And those sidequests require you to fill up every square of the dungeon's map!
If they ever re-release these games, which they won’t. Making encounters less frequent would be amazing.
On a remake I would like if they removed random encounters entirely and made symbol encounters instead.
I like JRPGs but I always hated random encounters, good thing that they are gone for good in the SMT franchise.
Same thing with digimon world 3/2003.
Actually make it digimon world 2 too.
The grind is so much and not rewarding
OMG is this the origins of Skibidi Toilet?!
It’s a traditional Japanese myth I believe. It shows up in Zelda Majora’s Mask too.
Go away, along with that brain rot as well.
I thought the same thing
no Hanako-san is an unrelated urban legend about a japanese ghost girl who haunts toilets, but it's weird that its happened twice lmao
This is actually better than the PS1 version where due to a programming bug the number of "safe" steps after an encounter is reduced to 0 as opposed to the intended 10 steps of peace.
Couple that with a 20 second long Vishnu loading screen and slow as all hell battle animations and you've got yourself the true revelations experience.
persona 1 just needs another remake or even remaster to make it bearable 😭😭
What makes the encounter rate worse is how slow and tedious the battles feel. I tried playing Persona 1 about 2 months ago and after going through like 3 encounters, I just stopped playing and never went back. The only good thing is the battle music (both PS1 and PSP)
@TheRealRenAmamiyaGenuinely a better story than Persona 5, lol
@TheRealRenAmamiya To be fair Persona 1 is a PS1 game, and the first game in the series. It's MUCH less clunky than the Shin Megami Tensei games that came before it. I think you have to judge older games on their own merits and not compare them to modern standards.
me everytime after the lobotomy
I just finished my first playthrough of persona 1, and i think half of the 26 hours i spent on the game were encounter rates.
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Currently watching a playthrough of the psp version and I swear I had to skip most of the time because of how many times the person was getting in a fight 💀
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Only 4 encounters to cross a single over-world screen? That's lucky.
P1 desperately NEED and DESERVE a remake
Thanks to this game for training my patience allowing me to withstood other game with similar encounter rates
This would make me crazy LOL I hope they port or remake this game again soon!
Literally took 2 steps out of a room and got thrown into a battle 💀
god, the main story is beautiful, but game paly let me give up to touch.
didn't know toilets and basketballs used to be enemies
Yup, apart of having it high rate, this game has the worst balancing and mechanics I have seen in a game ever
This game's looking like final shittesy 6
@@infinity999i0 excuse me, "Mr.I wanna cheese the game with a magicite guide"
Persona 1 has:
- Shit aliments
- Expensive gear
- Has shit movesets
- Has shit attack ranges
- Has shit group formations (like half reflect magic and half reflect physical)
- Has a shit reset in the dungeon theme after battle (You will never hear the full theme without Estoma [Which will not work until you finish the dungeon])
- Has a shit EXP system that does not consider Healing in the scaling
- Ect
- Has Shit encounter rates
- Has shit instakills
@@CarlosSilva-bh4biyeah the story and music keep me hooked though
@@CarlosSilva-bh4bi i really hate to love this game
@@CarlosSilva-bh4bi Game is so peak it brings a tear to my eye...
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@@Squiddy0912 I DIDNT KNOW HE LOCKED ME OUT OF OTHER PARTY MEMBERS 😭
i hate random encounters so much im so glad theyre becoming a thing of the past
but wow this is just atrocious
I take TWO steps….
toilet ballin
1996 skibidi toilet???
…why is your name is EDP445?
the first 444 were already taken
still better than persona 2
about the same as dds encounter rates...
Why is your protag named "EDP445" 💀
That's why persona 1 is the best, that's why persona 1 the goat
In the PSP version*
On PS1 the ecounter rate was way lower. The PSP version is just bad
I think the psp version is better from what i've heard. I think you couldn't even speed up battles in the ps1 version, plus the localization is pretty trash
@ImDigas But you got into battles less often, and the soundtrack is WAY better. The localization is actually good, it just changes the setting and alters the character designs. But the actual plot and dialogue are solid. Like, go listen to the PS1 P1 OST sometime, it's night and day.
@@Jordan3DSI agree. While I do enjoy the psp soundtrack, I prefer the ps1 better as that soundtrack gives it a better atmosphere that the game has, plus despite the changes made to the characters, like you said, they did lower the encounter rate, To be honestly I found it somehow more tenseful as you never know when a next one could happen rather then having to experience every 5 or less steps.
isn't the encounter rate bugged in the PSP version?
It isn't bugged, it is different on purpose (kinda a good desicion but also bad), compared to the PS1, in the PSP you need nearly a quarter of the steps to get into a battle, but the enemies have nearly 70% of their original HP, they do less damage and drop half of their original money and exp
the original idea was to make every encounter have the importance of a boss or mini-boss, but in the PSP edition it was changed to what we have now to make farming easier, and knowing how the encounter rate is so high they added ways to disable it like the skill estoma that completely disables random encounters for a time
@@reypato1738 How is it different on purpose if the encounter rate algorithm is ported directly from the PSX version? The reason encounters happen more often in the PSP version is that the PSP clock speed is 333MHz, whereas the PSX was 33MHz, which made it run the encounter algorithm faster than it should. Or at least, that's what the guy who made the encounter patch for the PSP version said.
Also, where can I find the original stats of enemies for the PSX version? I thought they only made Persona 2 easier on PSP, but I guess I was wrong.
@@DirtyDillers I think all 3 games were made easier
@@chronica6457 Checked the SMT wiki (which I know isn't good), and the only game that has different stats for enemies was Innocent Sin. But yeah, the games are probably easier on PSP than PSX mostly trough QOL.
And the game is so damn easy it's completely pointless
Edgy dq
Shitty gameplay
Miserable encounter rates
Mediocre direction specially in the dungeons
It doesn't even have a story worth all that trouble
And people attribute this to the game being "old"
I've played smt1 and 2 (not finished them) and they're way better even tho are older
SMT 1 and 2 are so much worse. All three of them are dogshit. I'm not sure what point you thought you were making, but you didn't make it.
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