GREAT review. I have the Zeus with 120 clouds. I do really like the cloud wheels. I have the 105 clouds on my Backfire G3, and I like them too. I am contemplating a set of the 115 rubber wheels. Your vid helped me make my decision. Going to order them. Keep up the good work.
@@Nonameshusband for the comfort they are really the best, definitely better than the Cloudwheels for that! So yes they're perfect for bad roads and cracks!
@@itsmatt3627 in that case i think i’m going to get them ! what do you think the scale of the range loss is though? i’d say i get around 20 miles on my 96mm wheels
Well, what to say except: very good video. You lightened up all the things to mention. Great job. I personally will use the 115 rubbers, cause I love the comfort and I am used to the pneumatics for the last years on my GTX. THX for this awesome comparison, very good job, Matt!
Hey, thanks so much for your feedback, I really appreciate it! Comfort is definitely something to keep in mind, especially with this new battery. The rides are getting longer and longer, so important to feel great during at least 1h30 !! Cheers
I love the 115 rubber it’s got so much grip and so smooth it feels like riding a snowboard in deep powder. But I am also considering the 105 cloud wheels just to see if I can handle the reduced comfort to extend the range
Great video. Very helpful. I have just bought my first board (Slick Revolution - Urban Carver). I was trying to decide on some modifications I can do and wheels was the first thought. I think I’ll get some small cloud wheels. Thanks for the great video. New subscriber. 👍🏼
Thanks for your feedback, really appreciate! Depends on you want to do. If you want to make some off road sessions, I'll recommend to go for the belt as you'll be able to put AT wheels on it. AT aren't compatible with the DD, so this is something to keep in mind. In term of range, both boards have the same. You'll have a better acceleration with the belt drive as you can adjust the gear ratio. Direct Drive is completely silent and there isn't a lot of maintenance to do on it. At the end some prefer the belt others the DD, it's just kinda personal. If you don't plan to ride offroad, mainly on flat city roads and you like being stealthy, go for the DD you'll have enough power don't worry ;)
What about mixing-n-matching? Since I'm going with an e-skate having hub motors (I've narrowed it down to the Backfire G2 Black & WowGo S2 Pro), the rear on both can only accept donuts (ie. 105/120mm CloudWheels on G2 Black, and 120mm CloudWheels & WowGo's own 105mm)...but, both accept standard-mount wheels up front. I was thinking the 105mm or 120mm in the rear, with the 115mm rubber (or something similar) up front. Would that work?
Is worth noting that while the noise of the wheels isn't audible to the rider, it is to those you ride with, or past. Also, with my 120 clouds, people comment that my board sounds "amazing" and "futuristic". I've noted that it's because the tread on them produces a bass note that at certain speeds harmonizes with the motor whine, as well as between each wheel. This causes a really weird sound to be produced by the board when on smooth enough pavement, that shifts with acceleration and deceleration. I don't really hear it while riding, or on rough surfaces where the note is drowned out by the unevenness. I am able to hear it sometimes, riding at lower speeds where the wind isn't rustling in my ears and on a surface that are super smooth to isolate the bass note from the wheels more. I imagine there is a similar effect with the 105s.
I'll say really good once you're on movement. Better acceleration for the belt drive though. This board can climbs big hills without any problems. I made a video on it, you can check it out!
Well done Nice Work 🐼👌 I have Cloudwheels 120 on my Black carve But I want to test this Rubber Wheels very nice review good Test and Nice video congratulations and Thank you so much For this best review
Thanks for your comment Nicolas! Yeah Rubbers are more comfortable than the Clouds, it definitely worth a try 😉Have nice rides with your Black Carve ✌🏻
They do fit on any longboard yes, but depending on the shape of your longboard just be careful of the wheelbites.. They're heavy, so for an electric skateboard that's not a problem, but when it's your legs pushing the board, that will definitely make an impact..
Thanks for your feedback! Yes, for the comfort that's my favorites, they consume more battery though. So for longer rides I'll recommend to go with the Clouds ✌🏻
aha I just wanted to pronounce it really quick, but yeah after hearing it again it sounds like "mina mina" 😅Thanks for your feedback man, really appreciate it!
Thanks for your comment! AT wheels aren't compatible on the DD version unfortunately, that's why I couldn't test them.. but for comfort they're perfect, they will reduce the range though, more than the 115mm Rubbers. But for off road sessions they're just perfect 😉
Salutations à toi Matt, En regardant tes vidéos tu m'a convaincu quel skateboard électrique prendre car j'étais partagé entre l'Evolve bamboo, carbon ou haiden, Meepo Hurricane ou Voyager X, mais finalement je prendrai Onsra Black Carve 2 ou 3 en Direct Drive pour le mode silence. Cordialement à toi👍🏾😊
Hello! Merci à toi pour ton retour 😉 Les Black Carve sont top, avec le Direct Drive tu vas te régaler! D'ailleurs elles sont en stock sur le site français et livrés en 48h : onsrafrance.fr/products/onsra-black-carve-2-direct-drive-skateboard-electrique-2021 Bons rides à toi!!
Hey Chase, I was wondering if you set up your remote controller each time you changing the wheels? Caus' it's important to do it to have the most accurate numbers. If you think that there is a problem, get in touch with Onsra Cali, they will answer you! Cheers
@@itsmatt3627 Well I haven’t tried changing the wheels yet, but I did make sure that the remote was set to 115mm when I first got it. I guess the speedometer could be inaccurate even still, but that’s probably not likely. I just recently weighed myself, and I actually weigh less than I thought at 68kg or 150lbs. So I just don’t understand why I can’t reach at least 30mph. I honestly doubt Onsra would do anything if I reached out to them about this, cause it’s just not a very clear problem. I however did notice that when I hit the throttle with the wheels off the ground, one of the wheels vibrates and makes a weird sound. I wonder if that could have anything to do with it. It did that before I ever took it out for a ride.
@@chasetuttle2780 ; Sounds like you have a bent motor shaft or something sounds (literally) out of whack with one of your motors. How can you say that you don’t have a clear problem? The problem could not be more obvious! The company will definitely fix this issue. The longer you wait the tougher it’s going to be to get them to help you out. Call them ASAP!
Speed depends of your weight, the wind too.. Did you set up correctly the remote ? Are you in speed mode 3 ? When you change out the wheels you have to re-connect the Remote to the board to set up all parameters correctly on the remote (wheels diameter, gear ratio, etc..)
@@itsmatt3627 yeah I set the remote to the 115mm rubber wheels with 45t pulley it could be my weight but I'm at 160lbs, it could be the wind there's always a constant wind here in Illinois but honestly I want to get the 120mm cloud wheels with 40t pulleys and new bearings to see if that changes anything
@@relaxation2380 40T and 120mm Cloudwheels are the best combo for top speed. You can't obtain better top speed with other setups. It will worth a try imo! Cheers
@@itsmatt3627 WE need adaptor kengel? so if I get this board I will go with this wheels 115 my only problem is the DD or BD I don't know ? im in ENGLAND and roads are not very good
Hey @@hectorberrio2344, yes you'll need KEGEL adapter or pulley depending the version you'll choose. I'll recommend the belt drive version. Direct Drive is really good but I only recommend it if you ride on flat roads. As soon as you have some hills, the belt version is way better! You can use this code : ITSMATT on rideonsra.com that will give you 5% 🙌🏻
It's a fake to believe that cloudweels slide more because the contact surface is narrower, it is the opposite in fact the finer the contact zone the more weight there is per cm2 and therefore more it will adhere it's like for motorcycle tires
Please watch again the video, at 5:57 you'll see how much range I got from each set of wheels. You may GAF about speed but you're not the only one watching! Ride safe!
thx matt, this was exactly i was looking for. very good video.
Thanks for your feedback! Glad that it helped you! Cheers
GREAT review. I have the Zeus with 120 clouds. I do really like the cloud wheels. I have the 105 clouds on my Backfire G3, and I like them too. I am contemplating a set of the 115 rubber wheels. Your vid helped me make my decision. Going to order them. Keep up the good work.
Thanks for your comment! 115mm Rubber are my favorite for comfort, they will reduce the range but definitely worth the rides! Have some nice rides! ✌🏻
@@itsmatt3627 do you think they’re best for bad roads/cracks too?
@@Nonameshusband for the comfort they are really the best, definitely better than the Cloudwheels for that! So yes they're perfect for bad roads and cracks!
@@itsmatt3627 in that case i think i’m going to get them ! what do you think the scale of the range loss is though? i’d say i get around 20 miles on my 96mm wheels
Great video again Matt! I think for the comfort and grip when carving I like those 115mm rubber wheels most, even if it means sacrificing some range!
Thanks mate! Yeah 100% agree, they really grip a lot on the roads and they are perfect for carving! Have nice rides ✌🏻
Well, what to say except: very good video. You lightened up all the things to mention. Great job. I personally will use the 115 rubbers, cause I love the comfort and I am used to the pneumatics for the last years on my GTX. THX for this awesome comparison, very good job, Matt!
Hey, thanks so much for your feedback, I really appreciate it! Comfort is definitely something to keep in mind, especially with this new battery. The rides are getting longer and longer, so important to feel great during at least 1h30 !! Cheers
Great video Matt!
thanks, mate!
this answered a lot of my questions.
very helpful and informative.
You're welcome Jay! Glad it helped you out! Have some nice rides!
where did you get the adapters from?
I love the 115 rubber it’s got so much grip and so smooth it feels like riding a snowboard in deep powder. But I am also considering the 105 cloud wheels just to see if I can handle the reduced comfort to extend the range
Yeah really love the Rubber too for carving, but the 105 CW are very very great for the range ✌🏻
do they drive well when it's raining?
Great video. Very helpful. I have just bought my first board (Slick Revolution - Urban Carver).
I was trying to decide on some modifications I can do and wheels was the first thought. I think I’ll get some small cloud wheels. Thanks for the great video. New subscriber. 👍🏼
Hey Richard, thanks for your message! Glad that it helped ! 105mm Cloudwheels are a good compromise for comfort and range 👌🏼
Great Video and production man. What are your thoughts on the Direct Drives vs the Belt drives?
Thanks for your feedback, really appreciate! Depends on you want to do. If you want to make some off road sessions, I'll recommend to go for the belt as you'll be able to put AT wheels on it. AT aren't compatible with the DD, so this is something to keep in mind.
In term of range, both boards have the same. You'll have a better acceleration with the belt drive as you can adjust the gear ratio.
Direct Drive is completely silent and there isn't a lot of maintenance to do on it. At the end some prefer the belt others the DD, it's just kinda personal. If you don't plan to ride offroad, mainly on flat city roads and you like being stealthy, go for the DD you'll have enough power don't worry ;)
What a beautiful town to cruise around in!
What about mixing-n-matching? Since I'm going with an e-skate having hub motors (I've narrowed it down to the Backfire G2 Black & WowGo S2 Pro), the rear on both can only accept donuts (ie. 105/120mm CloudWheels on G2 Black, and 120mm CloudWheels & WowGo's own 105mm)...but, both accept standard-mount wheels up front. I was thinking the 105mm or 120mm in the rear, with the 115mm rubber (or something similar) up front. Would that work?
Is worth noting that while the noise of the wheels isn't audible to the rider, it is to those you ride with, or past.
Also, with my 120 clouds, people comment that my board sounds "amazing" and "futuristic". I've noted that it's because the tread on them produces a bass note that at certain speeds harmonizes with the motor whine, as well as between each wheel. This causes a really weird sound to be produced by the board when on smooth enough pavement, that shifts with acceleration and deceleration. I don't really hear it while riding, or on rough surfaces where the note is drowned out by the unevenness. I am able to hear it sometimes, riding at lower speeds where the wind isn't rustling in my ears and on a surface that are super smooth to isolate the bass note from the wheels more.
I imagine there is a similar effect with the 105s.
How are the Direct Drives on hills ??
I'll say really good once you're on movement. Better acceleration for the belt drive though.
This board can climbs big hills without any problems. I made a video on it, you can check it out!
Superbes vidéos !!! Can’t wait mine 😎 merci Matt 👌
Merci Anthony! Elle devrait arriver dans pas longtemps 😉Profites bien!
Well done Nice Work 🐼👌 I have Cloudwheels 120 on my Black carve
But I want to test this Rubber Wheels very nice review good Test and Nice video congratulations and Thank you so much For this best review
Thanks for your comment Nicolas! Yeah Rubbers are more comfortable than the Clouds, it definitely worth a try 😉Have nice rides with your Black Carve ✌🏻
Do those rubber wheels fit on a regular longboard? Do you think it will be too hard to push?
They do fit on any longboard yes, but depending on the shape of your longboard just be careful of the wheelbites.. They're heavy, so for an electric skateboard that's not a problem, but when it's your legs pushing the board, that will definitely make an impact..
Fantastic video 👍🏻the rubber wheels seems like the way to go for comfort for very lil sacrifice
Thanks for your feedback! Yes, for the comfort that's my favorites, they consume more battery though. So for longer rides I'll recommend to go with the Clouds ✌🏻
Is the stick for the camera invisible or is the camera floating?? Witchcraft! I see a shadow of the stick but I see no stick
Aha the stick is automatically hidden because it's not wider than the thickness of the camera 😉
Any difference with grip in the wet or damp conditions
Better grip with the 115mm. The CW in the rain are so slippery..
Where u got the lights on it?
Hey Emma, I bought it from Aliexpress, those are X-light 100. They will be soon available on Onsra website though. Where do you come from?
Sweden im the tal guy with allot of questions that boght a black carve 2 haha I was using my gfs Phone last night when i saw the video ;)
@@leyo300 Aha no problem, so for Europe, you can wait a little bit, they will be added soon on the shop 😉
Bro, y do u pronounce mina mina for millimeter. Anyhow I love it. Great video. Keep it up man, very informative.
aha I just wanted to pronounce it really quick, but yeah after hearing it again it sounds like "mina mina" 😅Thanks for your feedback man, really appreciate it!
WHAT IS BETTER ???
DIRECT DRIVE OR BELT DRIVE ???
Very informative. How about the AT wheels?
Thanks for your comment! AT wheels aren't compatible on the DD version unfortunately, that's why I couldn't test them.. but for comfort they're perfect, they will reduce the range though, more than the 115mm Rubbers. But for off road sessions they're just perfect 😉
What should i get 105 or 120?
@Brendan K, What do you want ? More acceleration/brake or more top speed ?
Comfort will more or less be the same!
@@itsmatt3627 more top speed and comfort, just bought the maxfind pro 4 so limited to hub donuts.
@@brendank7465 Then go for the 120mm 😉
How tight are your trucks?
Not like the factory setup. I like to tighten it more to be able to go at very high speed and feel 100% comfortable!
Salutations à toi Matt,
En regardant tes vidéos tu m'a convaincu quel skateboard électrique prendre car j'étais partagé entre l'Evolve bamboo, carbon ou haiden, Meepo Hurricane ou Voyager X, mais finalement je prendrai Onsra Black Carve 2 ou 3 en Direct Drive pour le mode silence.
Cordialement à toi👍🏾😊
Hello! Merci à toi pour ton retour 😉 Les Black Carve sont top, avec le Direct Drive tu vas te régaler!
D'ailleurs elles sont en stock sur le site français et livrés en 48h : onsrafrance.fr/products/onsra-black-carve-2-direct-drive-skateboard-electrique-2021
Bons rides à toi!!
WHAT IS BETTER ???
CLOUDS 120 ???
URANG UTAN ???
MBS ???
Nice comparison, nice board, nice wheels. Could you please compare them also to TB100s and maybe also to "hollow wheels"? Thanks.
Don't have them with me right now, but one day if I put my hands on it, definitely yeah!
I thought the thumbnail was 3 cookies! 🥴🥴🤣
Man, I wish I could get up to 31mph on mine... I can only get to 27mph. Now I’m wondering if something is wrong with mine.
Hey Chase, I was wondering if you set up your remote controller each time you changing the wheels? Caus' it's important to do it to have the most accurate numbers. If you think that there is a problem, get in touch with Onsra Cali, they will answer you! Cheers
@@itsmatt3627 Well I haven’t tried changing the wheels yet, but I did make sure that the remote was set to 115mm when I first got it. I guess the speedometer could be inaccurate even still, but that’s probably not likely. I just recently weighed myself, and I actually weigh less than I thought at 68kg or 150lbs. So I just don’t understand why I can’t reach at least 30mph. I honestly doubt Onsra would do anything if I reached out to them about this, cause it’s just not a very clear problem. I however did notice that when I hit the throttle with the wheels off the ground, one of the wheels vibrates and makes a weird sound. I wonder if that could have anything to do with it. It did that before I ever took it out for a ride.
@@chasetuttle2780 ; Sounds like you have a bent motor shaft or something sounds (literally) out of whack with one of your motors. How can you say that you don’t have a clear problem? The problem could not be more obvious! The company will definitely fix this issue. The longer you wait the tougher it’s going to be to get them to help you out. Call them ASAP!
How much do you weigh dude? That would affect range also I think..
I weigh 70 kg all geared up! It's written in the conditions of the range test if you watch closely ✌🏻
@@itsmatt3627 thanks man!
Lol I used this song in a video too. Good Vid 👍
Mine only goes 26mph with the 115mm rubber wheels
Speed depends of your weight, the wind too..
Did you set up correctly the remote ? Are you in speed mode 3 ? When you change out the wheels you have to re-connect the Remote to the board to set up all parameters correctly on the remote (wheels diameter, gear ratio, etc..)
@@itsmatt3627 yeah I set the remote to the 115mm rubber wheels with 45t pulley it could be my weight but I'm at 160lbs, it could be the wind there's always a constant wind here in Illinois but honestly I want to get the 120mm cloud wheels with 40t pulleys and new bearings to see if that changes anything
@@relaxation2380 40T and 120mm Cloudwheels are the best combo for top speed. You can't obtain better top speed with other setups. It will worth a try imo! Cheers
💯🍻👍
The challenger will work with black wheels 150 robber W
Yes ! It will work with 115mm Rubber, it became my favorite and every day setup 👌🏼
@@itsmatt3627 WE need adaptor kengel? so if I get this board I will go with this wheels 115 my only problem is the DD or BD I don't know ? im in ENGLAND and roads are not very good
do you have a discount code that I can use ? I have to order the challenger plus some wheels 115
Hey @@hectorberrio2344, yes you'll need KEGEL adapter or pulley depending the version you'll choose. I'll recommend the belt drive version. Direct Drive is really good but I only recommend it if you ride on flat roads. As soon as you have some hills, the belt version is way better!
You can use this code : ITSMATT
on rideonsra.com that will give you 5% 🙌🏻
@@itsmatt3627 thanks for you replay tray you code but is not working for same reason here on the UK 😢 THANKS FOR YOU HELP
It's a fake to believe that cloudweels slide more because the contact surface is narrower, it is the opposite in fact the finer the contact zone the more weight there is per cm2 and therefore more it will adhere it's like for motorcycle tires
We don’t GAF about speed , get that shyt straight ,
We want to know about range dude
How much of my battery and ride time will this take away from me
Please watch again the video, at 5:57 you'll see how much range I got from each set of wheels. You may GAF about speed but you're not the only one watching! Ride safe!