FIRST REACTION - Performer React to Ten x Winwin Choreography "Lovely" Billie Eilish/Khalid
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You're right about them both being members of WayV. Ten is white and Winwin is black. As far as I know Ten does not have any contemporary training, but Winwin is trained in traditional chinese dance. They said in the making of this that the dance is open for interpetation, but it's basiclly about the fight between good and evil.
Malin Stalheim ten is amazing for being able to do this without contemporary training! Although does he have ballet or jazz? Great concept for this dance!
Malin Stalheim I THOUGHT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT THEIR SKIN COLOURBWJCJJWJD
Ten has gotten professional training because he went to a British curriculum school in Thailand and they teach many aspects of dances (and it was a private school so they probably did have teachers trained professionally and of the best) btw I know this cuz I attend a school like ten’s in England
I like to add that winwin say that it was ten who choreographed the dance with winwin help but both didn't have any choreographer training.
Your use of words is kinda misleading love :')
Though winwin is trained in Chinese traditional dance,it's concept techniques are FAR different from contemporary. So basically both of them were very new to contemporary dance. Not to be rude or anything but the way you used the word "BUT" (I'm not trying to be a smart ass here) kinda tells like winwin actually has an idea in contemporary.would have been better if you used "WHILE".
no hate just love
Stay safe btw fam
Anyway, this choreography was done by Ten and Winwin themselves.
Chenle’s Mama so good!
@@JeffAvenue 😂😂😂 I missed the username on the first comment & read ur reply literally! I was like, "Omg, did he really diss little Lele's mom like that??" (An adorable vocalist in NCT Dream)
ATiNY_ GiftedPebble you got me laughing like a dolphin 🐬 😂😂😂😂😂
@@raoreok3032 lol. I really thought that.
NOOOO
They did this for their first time dancing to contemporary. Winwin, the dark one, is trained in traditional Chinese dance. Ten, the one in white is a hiphop based dancer but he is a really talented one that can pick up any style (search “ Hit The Stage , TEN “ for more of Ten’s performances)
it hurts right here in my Meow Meow can’t believe they haven’t done this type of dance before. That’s just I’m mind blowing!
it hurts right here in my Meow Meow OMG UR USERNAME BSJSBS
omg your username 😂😂
my I know where is Ten dance school before
@@farichatulchusna706 before he come to korea he taking lesson at his hometown in thailand...idk the detail of his dance school but i did know that him have went to ones of thailand higher level international school in thailand before he come to korea...this just what i know the more details i not to sure
Winwin (the one in dark colors) said that they're working on a new choreo so let's hope it's gonna come out soon!
Elena Bisco ooo yay! Can’t wait to see
@@JeffAvenue Yessssss! 😍
👀
Still waiting or is it released ?
@@holostarzennie4434 Still waiting sadly! The boys are super busyyyyy 😆
Ten (wearing white) is one of the best dancers in K-Pop in my opinion. He has a lot of dance practice videos. Some suggestions:
-Dream in a dream, The Station ver.
-Devils dance practice, The Station ver. (live performance for this is amazing too but the choreo is different and I personally like the dance practice version better but check both out)
-New Heroes dance practice
-Coco Chanel choreography practice
-Ten Taki Taki choreography
Now Winwin (wearing black) is trained in Chinese traditional dance and is a BEAUTIFUL dancer but to my knowledge, I don't know any video you can see of that besides this one: "SM_NCT #3. 7th Sense". He is beautiful in that. You should definitely react to these! (and if anyone knows of any other Winwin videos or practices, definitely lmk!)
Zerotwo12 woohoo that’s a lot! Haha I’ll probably do the station one next cause that’s been suggested already :)
There are some bad quality videos of winwin doing chinese traditional dance.
But i can't find them, i could only find them in a video where a ballet girl breaks out and analyses winwin's dance and shows how technical he is and how different his dance is from the other members and how it was difficult for him to adapt to the "kpop style" dances.
ua-cam.com/video/F8kw5BJBec0/v-deo.html
I just looked up “Winwin traditional Chinese dance with a fan” and some stuff popes up so, oof worth a try right
July M yes I’ve seen this video and it really explains Winwin’s Dancing on another level.
Jeff Avenue Are you promise? I’ll remember lol please don’t forget try to watch that all. It’s ok if you don’t upload your reaction video. I just want you try to watch that all video it’s really cool Ten.
I honestly think the levels can be a little looser on criticism here purely because of their height difference. Like Ten (light colors) himself said jumping on the same level was pretty difficult for them because Winwin is so much taller than Ten. They practiced to get it as close as possible but I can see how it’s hard. Winwin had to lower his normal jump height while Ten had to jump higher than he was normally used to. Ten is barely 5’7” and Winwin is pretty much 6’0” so I think they were pretty accurate in their levels considering their height difference.
true. didn't know there was such a significant height difference, can't tell with the angles sometimes. but despite those, overall I was just enamoured by this choreography and execution!
Winwin is the taller one or the one in dark colors while Ten is the one in light colors. The dance was meant to represent one person who is in a constant battle between the good and bad but in the end, the good or light side loses. By the way, this was confirmed by Winwin and Ten in an interview regarding this video. I also forgot this dance was new for both of them because they said that none of them learned this style of dance. They used the types of dances they already knew to make this choreography.
Jamless Mochi that is insane! Truly talented if they haven’t done this kind of dance before! The technique is really good!
WinWin is one of the best as he goes to the top dance school The Beijing Dance Academy, nicknamed the “birth cradle of stars” it’s a dance school in China that is very well known and he placed 7th out of thousands of other participants during a testing. He trained in Chinese traditional dance for many years which is a mix between ballet and acrobats. If u look closely, WinWin does the movements cleanly than Ten (not that ten is bad as Ten is more better in hip hop style. it’s just that this dance fits WinWin more as it’s a contemporary dance
XW Ah love it! Such talented guys!
@@JeffAvenue winwin is best Chinese traditional dancer, please check SM_NCT#3,7th Sense you'll find his other dance skill... Tq
WinWin definitely had more classical form. I couldn't keep my eyes off of him since his lines were so beautiful always...
There are some small details that Ten doesn't catch because he isn't trained in modern/contemporary dance. Neither is Winwin, but because he is trained in Chinese traditional, a lot of ballet-esque features are seen and he knows how to use shape and lines to create a feeling of openness.
Idk if you know it by now but Ten did ballet training. he never mentioned it before but with SuperM he shared his story with his ballet classes
Winwin is the taller of the two and trained to be a Chinese traditional dancer and ten had some dance training other than kpop dancing.
Kimberly Marshall oh nice! Will have to check out some of their other stuff!
They are such beautiful dancers!
Win they really are!!
Fun fact: this was choreographed by them, mainly by the guy in white (Ten)
Devaki Bhagwat that is just amazing!
The last part of syncing when the music picks up is actually not supposed to be the same, it's Ten trying to break from it and the WinWin trying to keep up. The light trying to break from the dark but the dark still processing itself as their shadow. You can't have life without death, love without sorrow and light without shadow.
Cameo Storm i think that was just a theory lol but they are supposed to be in sync
They talk about the breaking of light and dark in an interview. How they are supposed to be one but sperate.
Thank you. This knowledge I get I'm really grateful
what's amazing is that they made this and choose everything themselves! they're awesome and they trained for years. they're absolutely talented!
you can watch rainbow v episodes to see how they made this and the behind the scene video.
*you can watch more of ten on a korean dance program/show called hit the stage, or his dance videos on UA-cam. he's such a great dancer. idols and pro dancers always praise him he dances with emotion and so much control and learns so fast. he's also the main dancer in all of the groups he was/is in! which are 3 btw with other talented dancers
( thank you for checking them out and reacting to them 💓 )
I watched Yugyeom from GOT7 on Hit The Stage and he's killin' it! What a pure talent he has!
@@Frabjous_ all of the idols on that show are great dancers
Damn! Love it! I have huge respect for dancers taking their craft seriously. And he’s in 3 groups?? How does he balance life? Jesuusss lol
Irene Saraswaty Ten is also in SuperM :)
@@JeffAvenue and he speaks Thai, English, Korean, and Chinese.(maybe a little bit Japanese)
I watch this video almost everyday if you watch their live performances you can feel the emotion going on their facial expressions are so good the one in the darker shirt is winwin and the white shirt is ten, ten also have solo songs new hero's and dream in a dream both art! 😊
nct_ten do they do a lot of just dance stuff? Like it’s an actual thing or just for fun?
@@JeffAvenue they have dance practices if you're talking about that they usually do one for every comback new hero's and dream in a dream have dance practices they also have award shows where they perform somtimes
When he said "What is this dance about?"
I can't hold myself to say what I got from the video..
These two person, they're life. The dark and the bright. Let's say the life that u want is the bright one. But sometimes, the dark must "kiss" you. That's how life works. When they dance together with the same tempo and movement, just like a mirror, they're look beautiful. Like our life.
And those two trees, the living tree and the die one, is us. Human. Our soul. At the end, they turned into one tree. We're all have two sides, and we can't change it. We MUST deal with it.
Just like this beautiful dance, let's make your life as beautiful as you want.
I really love this video. It’s still one of my favorites. They are gorgeous. I recommend Ten’s dream in a dream station ver. I think you’ll like it.
Lila W yes this is already on my list! Must be really good can’t wait! 😊
I think you would really enjoy NCT all of them are insaaaaane dancers and their choreos are always intense! Ten (the one in white) is one of the best dancers imo, he was on a show called Hit the Stage (its a dance show where all of kpops main dancers compete) and you can look some of those up and see how amazing he is !!
Also if I'm not wrong I think Ten & Winwin actually choreographed the "Lovely" dance themselves!
I really recommend u watch NCT-U The 7th Sense MV & performance video, it's such a detailed dance and the song is a banger lmao & Ten (the one in white ) is in it as well.
ln general tho NCT is a very diverse unique group worth looking into :) hope you check out more of them even if its just in your own time and not a reaction video
thanks for the suggestions! got a list for both groups going :)
WinWin has a strong classical background, he learnt traditional chinese dance I think up to the highest level and Ten learnt hiphop AND also used to be gymnast.
You can watch Ten n Taeyong Baby don't Stop dance practice too..
You've probably seen explanations on their dancing background, now I just want to emphasise that Winwin (black clothes) went to prestigious dancing academy and was one of the best students. He mastered a Chinese dance technique where he did front air flip while his torso and above stays still ua-cam.com/video/nFMSpKYTSxs/v-deo.html -- not all dancers can do this. And it's really a treat for the eyes :)
Forgot to add, since he is trained in classical dance for years it explains why he has better posture than Ten and there are times his details are better than Ten too. But yayyy thank you for your reaction!!
Love that! I have mad respect for all kpop idols that have technical training.
NCT really has some amazing dancers... Winwin is trained in traditional Chinese dance, I'm unsure whether Ten has any technical training. Maybe you could check out "Baby Don't Stop", it's a unit song by Ten and Taeyong. Or some of Taeyong's dance clips, I'd love to hear what you think about those. They're on the channel NCT Dance
Annique NCT has a dance channel? Wow. Lots to catch up on I see!
Ten mentioned it's his first time actually trying a contemporary dance. As for the training i think he was trained more in urban dancing.
@@JeffAvenue yees they have a lot of contents in that channel!
Check out also nct music for covers (their vocals is so under appreciated in kpop
Every time I watch this choreography I always get chills and feel emotional bc the way ten and winwin dance is actually beautiful and it’s so aesthetically pleasing to watch
I'm so happy whenever people start recognizing my wayv boys 😭😭😭😭😭😭
Very talented boys!
This video makes me cry every time I watch it. The interpretation of this is so stunning. The sync and “fight” is so the way they tell a story is so wonderful
Winwin's chinese dance training really helped him here, ten was great too. I always come back to this video because the choreography is amazing and I need more content of kpop idols who dance in this particular style haha
*pauses at **5:56*
Me, Nctzen: THANKS
Itzel Chávez LOL
They making this chreo by them self, so proud of them 😭, when i saw in first time, i am not get the meaning, until i see two different tree, its one tree with live and dead side, and they clothes like
the choreography is just INCREDIBLE. LOVE IT
6:30 winwin is in my opinion more aggressive, more dramatic
Ten is more delicate, pure
Like dark and light
God and evil
Life and death
Eliza Budynkiewicz - Montana great contrast!
I've watched this performance several times and it still amazes me how great it is. Thanks for doing this reaction, I'd catch myself giggling and reacting again and again.
The moment i watched this dance, WinWin stole Away my attention. I literally couldn't look at Ten because his performance was so commending to me
Also, if you liked the traditional dancing style, a UA-camr called Shakyraindrop did a very in-depth video on Winwin (the guy in black) as he was trained in Traditional Chinese Dance. It showcases some of his best moments and performances (including this) and why it looked good. Really recommend it, such an interesting video :D
I love how you can tell the difference between Winwin and Ten's dance training. They both dance well but the way they move is so different, I love it.
Both are amazing dancers. Winwin's movements are so perfect while Ten's very emotional
Everytime I watch this I always got goosebumps. A very beautiful performance.
Joyce C. Truly is!
Expect artists from SM Entertainment to be so good when it comes to choreographies and vocals. They will never dissapoint you. 😊😉
I love Jimin, Kai, Ten and WinWin have moved Kpop dancing in new and progressive directions with their training and skills.
Seeing people appreciate Ten and WinWin ... YOU LOVE TO SEE IT
Winwin is trained in ballet and traditional Chinese dance and Ten is more modern/hiphop. This dance shows their strengths really well, but in the synchronized parts, you can see that they do the moves differently. Ten gets really flowy and expressive, while Winwin's strong technique comes in. It's really interesting to notice!
I think in this choreo you really see that winwin (darker clothes) is trained in classical Chinese dance, while ten is more hiphop based.. You see those influences in their movement... For example winwin keeps lines (is that the term?) through his body, like a ballet dancer would...
vadidu daa body lines ya that’s the correct term 👍🏽
THIS IS THE FIRST VIDEO YOU SEE AND ... I LOVE IT, I LOVE YOUR REACTION, YOUR OPINION, I LOVE YOU AAAA THANKS FOR REACTING TO THIS EPIC VIDEO OF TEN AND WINWIN ❤
I loved the performance and the choreography, Ten and WinWin did so good💚
I love ur reaction a lot i just love when people appreciating the talent of these member, I hope u will react on Ten hit the stage performance it will be really lit 😩💕🙏
Câptàiń Devils? Haha I’ve been suggested this one
They actually choreographed it all themselves and set design etc too
You are so refreshing and have genuinely interesting commentary! Thank u for reacting to them!
Hannah Hu you’re welcome! I wanna see more! Haha
Well, its time to binge watch all your videos! I love your commentary, you can tell you know what you're doing. I can't wait for more!
Omyghad i cant count how many times i watched this video from the day jeff drop this, my faavveee
thanks for reacting this video. I love them sooo much they're so great~
Watching this ten months later and now Jeff knows all 23 members on sight basically and does in depth analysis of all of them
That choreography made by ten and winwin itself they are better at this especially ten had the better understanding in dancing hes the ace of dancing knowing how to move his body the skills he had for performance incredible show is beyond everything. This very short video but so satisfying to watch because they made it so perfectly and lovely to watch
I love hearing your perspective!! I never would have seen it the way you see it just because I can't dance like them! It is obvious you know a ton! :D Makes me appreciate dancing so much more
i think this is one of my fave reactions to kpop from you bec you really geeked out here 🥰
Great reaction. I love and appreciate this performance piece so much.
There little and I mean little imperfections make it more real there both very amazing. Loved it
I think the dance was about a person's personal battle to find the balance between his own true self and his reflection. At the end, the true self was about to be lost to him but he reeled him back in and embraced it.
Woah! Your little sister's taste is so great. Loving WayV is such a good taste
I love when you're giving many words for reaction to all of your videos, especially this. Because, i'm a wayzenni (wayv's fans name) and i really love you're reaction 😭😭
IVE BEEN LOOKING FOR A VID LIKE THIS !! thank you for reacting to this,, its art LOL
oh well yay! 😊
I seriously love your reactions .. I miss you every time I don't see a notification from you
hanyellys vega aw thank you! Glad you’re enjoying them hehe
It's so nice to see you enjoy this performance :> Thanks a lot because they're really underrated even they dance so beautifully, :
Damnn. Imagine talent like this being underrated 🥺
@@JeffAvenue Anyways Thanks a lot. I believe someday people will know what the true talent is :>
When i fIrst saw this video i litrally cried aaahh thats sooo beautiful !!!!!!!
Alissa 3 it really is! I heard there’s a live version so I’ll check that out too!
@@JeffAvenue YEAAH the live version is soo good, please check it out (^o^)
Thank you so much for reacting
I havent watched Jeff before, but I love that he goes through the comments to check on the details and background of the videos he's reacting to! Because there's alot of info that supports these choreographies and the idols involved that just shape how amazing it is.
Thank you! I’m making these videos to actually branch out into different kpop groups (I started with BTS) so the info is entertaining to me 😁
Could you please react to “Ten hit the stage” program? He just did 5 song in the program. Really recommend theme of ‘devils’ and ‘uniform’🥺🥺 i want to know how you think about his dance! By me who don’t know anything about dance and waiting for your reaction 🥰🥰
ill addd this to my list :)
Thank you for taking your time to watch my boys work 🙏
I cant point out every videos they have.. Because THEY'RE ALL WORTH TO WATCH. Just type 'ten dance' or 'winwin dance' and it all come out. And they're an amazing dancers..
But.. Since my fav is ten, please.. React to him.. When you see him dance you will realize he is not only dancing but he is telling a beautiful story in it, watch it detaily and you will know his passion, he carved out every move.. Please get to know him.. I hope you enjoy his art as much as i do
Stay safe too 💜
putri rep I’ll definitely be checking more of their stuff! My little sister is obsessed with them and I’m starting to see why haha
I'm not sure if you had checked out Ten at 'Hit the Stage' but he nailed his performance there, if you want to check out more of his moves, you can watch it ^^
Wow.. I love how you tell us the detail in more professional way. And you give us the explaining of those. And that's what i thought lacking in some "dance reactioner".. Please keep your good work 😊 i enjoy it
Thank you! I thought the same thing about other reactors that’s why I made this channel 😊
Ten (in white) is ballet contemporary etc. Trained
Winwin (in black) is Chinese traditional trained
I lost my count on how much ive seen ten x winwin Lovely choreography, yet i still got goosebumps whenever i watch it.
CAN WE APPRECIATE HIM FOR BEING SO HUMBLE AND BEING SO SOFT WHEN HE HAS A COMMENTS ABOUT TENWIN AND ALWAYS SAID "SORRY IF I'M WRONG" I'M IN LOVE❤❤
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they made choreo, they picked the song, thought over setting (tree), they even chose clothes by themselves. all you can see they made by themselves and it's amazing. also they never tried contemporary dance and they succeeded in it i think
The way you don't know two member at the start but now you know 23 member. This neo culture technology
I KNEW YOU WOULD LOVE THIS UGH MY HEART
I find it a pity that Winwin is not recognized as one of the best dancers in kpop, his passion and his movements are splendid but yet we sleep on him ... I hope he will have more chances to make himself known ^^ i love them ❤
I love their choreography for the music. It's like a sad but strong song and it was their first time (I think) when they can do whatever they wanted. I watched ALL of their episodes of Rainbow V. Witch means (I think) that they are different but they are together (Rainbow V EP1 IDK if this is what they said but I remember like this LoL)
The boy in black (Winwin) specialized at an early age in contemporary Chinese dance (He is from China) so his movements are as clean as the turns or the alignment of the body or hands.
The boy in white (Ten) is a very good dancer. It is versatile when it comes to dancing and very good at it. It adapts very well to any rhythm and quickly and simply (it is Thai). Both did the Lonely choreography.
They are both very good at dancing and have their highlights.
I recommend listening to his comback (Wayv) Turn back time and the practical dance of it. 💚✨
love the react. 🌿
This keep popping up in my recommendations and since it’s day 22 of quarantine I’m here for it even though I can’t dance
Wow, I didn't know them, they're absolutely beautiful to watch, will look them up, thanks!
Chris Del Ⓥ ya I’m so glad I looked at this! Beautiful choreo and execution!
Perfect dancer 👏👍🔥🔥🔥🔥
youve really gained my attention,, im subscribing !! ill continue to support youu🧡
oh well thank you so much! I appreciate it!
“it’s like mcdonalds to me” I FELT THAT SPIRITUALLY the details in intense movements are like so goooooddd
Chanelle Rolle haha! It filled my appetite!
You know what makes this even better???
..tHeY CHOREOGRAPHED IT THEMSELVES!!!
Zandra Rogers love it!!
@@JeffAvenue lol! tHaNk YoU??.. I mean, I should be saying you love it to Ten and WinWin! 😆
6:01 “I’m sure you guys will like this uh...pause that I did”
Just a little bit fun fact the guy in dark outfit is WAY MORE taller than the white guy, like he is one of the tallest member in the group and the white guy is the shortest member of the group
I’m glad I’m not the only one that gets excited about choreography
I think it’s a representation of yin and yang, where the black (yin) represents a more calm and structured presence, kind of visible in the way he dances too; the white (yang) dances with bursts of energy and more movement. I think the end where they place their heads on each other’s shoulders and stand in front of the tree is a representation of balance in the good and bad, life and death and...you get the gist. Anyways, I love it❤️❤️❤️❤️
This is the first time of TEN to dance contemporary but he did it so good.
Just here to repeat...They choreographed all of that themselves ^^
You should watch kai exo, he learned ballet and jazz and so on
Zana Yusrima so curious to see Kai do this. I love him in Kokobop
Yessss gurl
Hi. I scrolled through your videos and I noticed, you haven't react to any EXO dance practice videos. Please watch their videos also. They are one of the best dancers in KPOP, especially because they have Kai and Lay on the group. Kai is hailed as the idol's idol
This was my first experience of Ten dancing
WINWIN’S MOVES ARE SO CLEAANN HOLLUP IN EVERY PANEL HIS BODY LINE IS NOOO JOKE
the fact that they were choreograph and train by themselves, thanks btw for mentioning the pointed toes
You would love Winwin, he is a great professional traditional dancer. I love his moves and gestures as much as Jimin's moves. Winwin really deserves the spotlight as a great dancer.
He knows about what he is talking. I'm agree about the right position of the toe, because it makes the move more 'clear'. I remember when with some classmates we had to create a cartography with a rope, and when y show the main dance, she told me that she was impressed because my final position with the toe. She told me that was amazing, and she knows. The position with the toes make a big difference.
I noticed how differently they move, ten is always sharp but winwin moves so gracefully it’s just a beautiful contrast.
THIS VIDEO IS BEAUTIFUL, BEAUTIFUL AND ABSOLUTELY BEAUTIFUL !!! GORGEOUS !!! 💫💜😩
The pause at 6:00 though 😂😂😂
I Stan BTS right?? So much talent and grace!
@@JeffAvenue yes I'm always captivated by ten's and winwin's dance, mesmerizing oof.
This is definitely my new favorite account on this app
Kai Hayden HAHA. Thanks! 🙏
i know it its over two years late but i love thats hes pretending he hasnt seen this before sksksk "who's who?" - me when i want a golden globe award for best acting hahahaha
They choreographed this as a part of Rainbow V You Tube show WayV did. WinWin and Ten worked on this together with Ten making most of it and leveraging it as an opportunity to showcase WinWin as a dancer.