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  • @DanChalifouxable
    @DanChalifouxable 5 років тому +269

    There is not a second in this speech where he gives an explicit reason to vote for HIM, but the entire speech lets us know he’s the person to vote for.

    • @gregfaber3417
      @gregfaber3417 11 місяців тому +9

      Exactly. Its proof that he believes in the sacred idea of government for the people, by the people. Its never solely about the person who is president but rather what they can do to further the ideals of democracy and the wishes of the voting population. The person who holds The Office of The Presidency is but a caretaker and a living representative of a system greater than just one person.

    • @shelleyking8450
      @shelleyking8450 7 місяців тому +1

      Amen.

    • @nanomage
      @nanomage 7 місяців тому +3

      If only we could have a president who lived up to that sentiment.

    • @velivelmu
      @velivelmu 4 місяці тому

      Well Santos is a hero since he scammed $3,000 from a GoFundMe campaign for a disabled veteran’s dying service dog.

  • @LabradorIndependent
    @LabradorIndependent 6 років тому +328

    One of the greatest speeches in this show, especially for the post-Sorkin era.

  • @kunwarabdulquddoos6022
    @kunwarabdulquddoos6022 2 роки тому +69

    One of the best and most beautiful moments of the show. Even as a Pakistani citizen, I am truly inspired by this speech. It may be fiction, but it is not a delusion. We should set this as the standard for our leaders, and ourselves.

    • @qubadmalik1
      @qubadmalik1 Рік тому

      Then vote of IK. He is the closest thing to Santos you will get in Pakistan

  • @LeLaidbackLauncher
    @LeLaidbackLauncher 5 років тому +378

    I like to imagine that Vinnick was watching this speech, and at the end was like "It might be harder to run against him, but that's the kind of man I wanna run against."

    • @cbsrockem
      @cbsrockem 4 роки тому +20

      @MikeJames6 I don't know if there's any truth to this, but I heard WW was originally going to make Vinick the winner until Leo McGarry died.

    • @wasserperson
      @wasserperson 4 роки тому +12

      @@cbsrockem That's correct. When they were expecting another season, they brought on Alan Alda and set that in motion.

    • @charlesbronson2926
      @charlesbronson2926 4 роки тому +6

      MikeJames6 I agree with you up until your insult. As the others said, the writers agreed with you, vinick winning would have been great. But they didn’t think it would be in good taste to have Leo die, and then also have them lose the election. They didn’t drop the ball at all.

    • @wasserperson
      @wasserperson 4 роки тому +6

      @MikeJames6 Iirc the performance was based on Obama's stoic composure (they thought he happened to be the best match for the story they wanted to tell; they didn't expect he was going to run)

    • @darkhorseash4337
      @darkhorseash4337 3 роки тому

      For sure.

  • @obi-wankenobi5330
    @obi-wankenobi5330 3 роки тому +230

    He failed to disclose that he is an alien from alderaan.

    • @jbreezy101
      @jbreezy101 Рік тому +5

      Senator

    • @robertmcbride4454
      @robertmcbride4454 Рік тому +1

      I always thought he was a human living on Alderon.

    • @obi-wankenobi5330
      @obi-wankenobi5330 Рік тому +2

      ​@@robertmcbride4454 I thought Americans referred to foreigners as aliens

    • @robertmcbride4454
      @robertmcbride4454 Рік тому

      ​@@obi-wankenobi5330 I always thought Americans don't think about foreigners.

    • @agoodday9247
      @agoodday9247 4 місяці тому

      Pobody's nerfect

  • @jeromebuck1153
    @jeromebuck1153 6 років тому +87

    This was the moment that Bartlett realised that Santos was the only natural. Sucessor

  • @ADROKMCA
    @ADROKMCA 2 роки тому +87

    “See if you can get Josh on the phone.”-President Bartlett
    I love how Bartlett looks at Zoey and sees her smile. He knew her hope for the future told him Santos was the best option. Great scene!

    • @seanwebb605
      @seanwebb605 7 місяців тому +3

      Bartlett concealed his illness because he didn't think he could win the nomination or the election if people had known. The actor's proper name is Estevez, but thought his career would be hurt with a Latin sounding name. Now an actor and character who are Latin might get the nomination for president.

  • @Dirk-van-den-Berg
    @Dirk-van-den-Berg 2 роки тому +24

    The look on Josh' face when Santos pulls out this speech out of thin air....

  • @FinchelFan728
    @FinchelFan728 9 років тому +166

    I love Matt Santos. he was my favorite West Wing character. I wish they'd kept it going with him as president.

    • @Karthos1000
      @Karthos1000 8 років тому +15

      If John Spencer hadn't died, it was very possible the show would have been picked up for an 8th Season. But with him gone and so many other actors leaving (only Whitford would have remained as a credit character from the first season, as Maloney didn't get into the main credits until Season 2), and only Smits and POSSIBLY Alda from the main credits for later seasons, without John Spencer, the execs didn't see any chance of the show continuing to be a success.
      I think it could have been, but... ah well. We did get five and a half good seasons (let's forget most of season 5 and a good chunk of season 6) out of it, which is more than you can usually ask for. Five seasons, as a rule, is the maximum number of seasons for which any show that isn't a crime procedural can be expected to be good. (It's the rule of 5.)

    • @chubbychuckle
      @chubbychuckle 8 років тому +6

      Why does everyone say those seasons were bad?

    • @Karthos1000
      @Karthos1000 8 років тому +9

      +chubbychuckle Aaron Sorkin left. It's possible the reasons seasons 5 (and chunks of 6) are seen as so bad because we'd been spoiled by earlier seasons that were so good. But I think the reason I felt it was bad was two things. For one, they changed the camera work so that it was much jerkier and shakier than it had been. Instead of smooth pans and sharp cuts, we had jerky movement. Like they'd moved from a steady-cam to shoulder-mounted camera.
      The other reason, and the main reason was the writing and the way the characters changed. The witty back-and-forth of the characters morphed into angry tirades more often than not, and the yelling (that happened only occasionally in the first four seasons, and was extremely uncomfortable) became commonplace, particularly in Season 5.
      There are other, specific things (Joshua Malina/Will Bailey moving to the VP's office when he was supposed to replace Sam, for example) that are disappointing. It just wasn't a good show in season 5 and most of season 6. Watching it now, you can press through to the good stuff (rare though it may be in Season 5 in particular) if you marathon the show, but we couldn't back in the day. And week after week of mediocrity starts to wear on you.

    • @chubbychuckle
      @chubbychuckle 8 років тому +2

      John Landon I see. I just finished my first time watching it so next time I'll look for the difference you mentioned.

    • @joemckim1183
      @joemckim1183 6 років тому +1

      Nah, Spencer had nothing to do with the show ending. The show was still really good but the overall cost of the show was elevated to a level that the ratings no longer could sustain to make a profit for the show.

  • @acedrumminman
    @acedrumminman 12 років тому +74

    Then President Bartlet says, "Get Josh on the phone."
    Just great.

  • @taruns7744
    @taruns7744 23 дні тому +1

    I grew up watching West Wing. Gives me goose bumps every time I watch this clip.

  • @dangurney1042
    @dangurney1042 12 років тому +67

    4:10 I just love the look on Santos's wife's face! She's so proud of her man!

    • @wasserperson
      @wasserperson 4 роки тому +2

      Pride and a friendly triumph over Josh; like the energy btw Abby & Leo but w/o the secret of MS & the pain of the kidnapping

  • @martynix4277
    @martynix4277 5 місяців тому +6

    I love the look Santos and his wife exchange before he steps out. You can practically hear them thinking to each other:
    Matt: Okay, I'm going to do it now.
    Helen: Go win this thing.

    • @markkostka6897
      @markkostka6897 5 місяців тому +2

      I don't see that from her. I think her look was complete loyalty and love and trust. She looked like she was telling him I love you no matter what happens.

  • @sandih29687
    @sandih29687 10 років тому +161

    "Two Cathedrals" was the greatest hour of television ever!!

    • @theolamp5312
      @theolamp5312 8 років тому +28

      And, I think it was as good as any theatrical movie I have ever seen. The Brothers in Arms scene at the end always blows me away. As Leo said, Watch This.

    • @kevincarroll3914
      @kevincarroll3914 4 роки тому +1

      Noel would like a word with you.

    • @lukethompson2714
      @lukethompson2714 3 роки тому +1

      And then the other two minutes 2 episodes ahead when he says yeah and I’m going to win

    • @gregfaber3417
      @gregfaber3417 11 місяців тому

      @@theolamp5312 at the time it aired it was the greatest season finale of a show ever

    • @soez101786
      @soez101786 5 місяців тому

      ummmmm very very close with a few episodes from the news room

  • @TheBlindAcorn
    @TheBlindAcorn 6 років тому +139

    We need a moment like this in 2020.

    • @dutchking7293
      @dutchking7293 5 років тому +7

      It will not be coming from the Dems...

    • @parkerfilms1
      @parkerfilms1 4 роки тому +2

      @@dutchking7293 Yes, it is. And it began on 3 March, 2020

    • @dutchking7293
      @dutchking7293 4 роки тому +1

      @@parkerfilms1 🤣🤣🤣

    • @slashtopher2193
      @slashtopher2193 4 роки тому +2

      There are only a handful of our current politicians who would consider giving such a speech. But even if they did, none of them can deliver words like Jimmy Smits, so none of them will ever have the slightest chance of getting the nomination from a major party. Too bad for us.

    • @prospero4183
      @prospero4183 4 роки тому +2

      Yep we need fictional characters cause the real ones suck balls

  • @GuyInAChair3
    @GuyInAChair3 13 років тому +80

    I love the whole feel of this episode. Its shot in such a different way then the show normally is, it gives you the impression of a real event going on.

    • @Dirk-van-den-Berg
      @Dirk-van-den-Berg Рік тому +2

      By now, the show was so popular that all the extra's the production needed in this episode probably did it for free.

  • @theolamp5312
    @theolamp5312 7 років тому +317

    Sometimes, In the current political climate, I need to see scenes from WW. Yes, they are imaginary. But, I don't think that they are fake. I would like to believe in something better. Something we can all embrace.

    • @prospero4183
      @prospero4183 4 роки тому +3

      I can imagine Santos calling Vinick a racist and his supporters bigots and try to bring real life to the show

    • @rcslyman8929
      @rcslyman8929 4 роки тому +3

      Sorkin and crew wrote the ideal. These were how our leaders should be. Beholden to the ideals of their political side, but working for the betterment of all the people.
      That's not what we have today. Hell, that's not even what we had then.

    • @Myr3390
      @Myr3390 4 роки тому +4

      You know. there was a time when our leaders inspired imagination. Life is shitty enough on it's own, leaders are meant to take us out of the dirt and show us if we work together, tomorrow will be better. I know it's funny to some, but leaders through history were those that lead us through the dark to a brighter tomorrow.

    • @redwall1521
      @redwall1521 4 роки тому +2

      @@Myr3390 The last time there was a "ideal president", it was Kennedy, and even he was flawed. I mean, he appeared so great that the mafia had to kill him. The same thing happened to RFK.

    • @xChemistryFTWx
      @xChemistryFTWx 4 роки тому +2

      I think you've nailed the core message of the entire show right there. Yes, it is fictional, and yes, real-world politics doesn't live up to the ideals of the show, but the show encourages us to believe that such ideals are possible in our government and motivates us to work towards improving it.

  • @angelorobledo1536
    @angelorobledo1536 Рік тому +14

    Such clever camera angles and framing to make what are probably a couple dozen extras on a mostly empty soundstage, look and feel like a packed convention center with thousands of people

    • @ryane5483
      @ryane5483 Рік тому +4

      Actually it was shot in the arena in Anaheim California where the hockey team plays. At the time it was called the Arrowhead Pond I believe. And there were a lot more than a couple dozen extras. It was was actually a couple thousand. I was one of them. I was on a Disneyland vacation and leading up to the park there were flyers posted everywhere for the open call for extras. I still have my Santos, Bob Russell and Baker signs.

    • @jbuster9
      @jbuster9 Рік тому

      I feel the opposite -- it was a valiant effort, but it didn't ring true to me. I felt the emptiness of the arena during his speech.

  • @LordBloodraven
    @LordBloodraven 2 роки тому +13

    Small mistake at 4:04 when victory balloons can be seen dropping from the rafters on the TV.
    If TOBY were running that convention, he'd have a meltdown like he had during the Justice Mendoza confirmation.
    That whole Tempting Fate speech/rant he gave to the staffers including Ginger and Bonnie was hilarious.
    He even had another moment like that when Ed (or Larry) walked into his line of sight on Election Night:
    "Hey. I see one victory balloon before this thing is called and... *YEAH, YOU BETTER RUN!!!"*

  • @joebarksdale6437
    @joebarksdale6437 3 роки тому +16

    Bail Organa really was a great senator.

  • @brainwasher9876
    @brainwasher9876 12 років тому +72

    I like how as Santos becomes closer and closer to being the nominee Josh looks progressively glummer and glummer.

  • @tgleo1
    @tgleo1 8 місяців тому +1

    This episode, and the entire series, are simply extraordinary.

  • @Thepopcornator
    @Thepopcornator 2 роки тому +9

    The legend Jimmy Smits, everyone.

    • @robbkinnin1988
      @robbkinnin1988 Рік тому +2

      And just as good in NYPD Blue, LA Law, and East New York

  • @jaspdx63
    @jaspdx63 6 років тому +26

    While definitely a rhetorical device, the "it has been suggested to me" and "it has been asked of me" set-ups are also a nice way for Sorkin to give Santos the role of next generation leader for the DNC. The old ways are gone, and perhaps with them, some of the flaws of the party as well.

    • @danmcguire8614
      @danmcguire8614 6 років тому +7

      Sorkin didn't write this. He was out after season 4.

  • @wannamontana4130
    @wannamontana4130 3 роки тому +6

    4:08 ... the moment a proud spouse KNOWS, ... and lets Josh know, ... "you ready for this?!"

  • @DaveTingwaldd
    @DaveTingwaldd 7 років тому +9

    Whenever there was a time for a mic drop...this was it!

  • @kenbradley1480
    @kenbradley1480 6 років тому +15

    Would have loved to see his presidency they really could've kept this show going, would've been really good I think

  • @ursaltydog
    @ursaltydog 6 років тому +27

    If only the DNC would do this now... to trust that we have intelligent people voting, and to treat us with respect when we want a better candidate..

    • @vickenator
      @vickenator 6 місяців тому

      @ursaltydog Six years later and I'm still sitting here hoping we see this sort of thing at the DNC in a few months.

    • @ursaltydog
      @ursaltydog 6 місяців тому +1

      @@vickenator I hear ya...

  • @alwitts5630
    @alwitts5630 Рік тому +3

    I view this speech whenever I need a positive boost.

  • @maipe6917
    @maipe6917 2 місяці тому

    I always loved how Bartlett took Santos advise and chose the the candidate who most embodied what he believed we need to keep our nation strong and free.

  • @jamesrawlins735
    @jamesrawlins735 Рік тому +1

    If you notice this is one of the scenes shot later - they started to have budget issues, so you never see full wide shots to see that they didn't have very many extras. A lot of close-in shots creating the illusion of a full convention floor.

  • @jonemeigh5588
    @jonemeigh5588 5 років тому +11

    The most ironic part of this episode?
    Santos' speech is all about the delegates' "Democratic right to vote"...but he gets the nomination when President Bartlet twists the arm of the New York delegation chairman.

    • @partyguy101ify
      @partyguy101ify 2 роки тому

      I wouldn't say it's ironic, at least not totally. Hoynes and Russell are in it for power. Baker is in it for whatever reason. Santos is in it for progress much like Bartlet wanted. Hoynes and Russell just do a better job of fooling the voters into thinking that they care about them.

  • @svendocberglowe6635
    @svendocberglowe6635 3 роки тому +2

    I wish we could have this honesty today.........

  • @Burford1956
    @Burford1956 2 місяці тому

    After seeing this clip several times now, it was the first time i noticed that the looks he and Teri Polo exchanged were the same he had with Kim Delaney in NYPD Blue. the love and devotion between both couples came across so strong.

  • @Karthos1000
    @Karthos1000 10 років тому +97

    Has anyone noticed just how EERILY accurate this was? Aside from the close election, they got everything else right. A young, minority candidate against an old, "moderate" candidate. (Okay, let's pretend McCain wasn't a total sell out and pretend he was actually moderate.) The Vinick Campaign had a young handsome (but unlike real life, not moronic) VP candidate. The Santos campaign went with an older, established statesman.
    Maybe they watched the 2004 Convention speech. Anyone who saw that knew that 2008 was either gonna be Clinton or Obama.

    • @colonelbagshot6593
      @colonelbagshot6593 10 років тому +3

      And Mccain and Obama did basically the same thing in office.

    • @Karthos1000
      @Karthos1000 10 років тому +7

      Colonel Bagshot
      I'm not sure what you mean by that. McCain was never elected President, so he was never "in office".

    • @Seth1789110
      @Seth1789110 10 років тому +1

      The West Wing definitely helped influence the real life 2008 election, and this entire political campaign was definitely based off of the actual candidates.
      Still really cool, though!

    • @Karthos1000
      @Karthos1000 9 років тому +4

      +Three00Jews Considering how it was two years before the 2008 election, and Obama wasn't a real candidate until he won Iowa. (granted, I was working for him [in what my relatives called a "hopeless, pointless cause"]in Oregon for months before he won Iowa.) Unless the writers were seers, they couldn't have seen the 2008 election coming. I was an Obama campaign person, and even I didn't see it coming. I just thought it would be cool to be involved.

    • @jmacmall
      @jmacmall 7 років тому +6

      Looking at your comment three years later but just wanted to say that you're exactly right. After 2004, Obama became more notable and people who worked on the West Wing said that Santos was in part inspired by Obama. You hit the nail on the head.

  • @tommyfredriksson9198
    @tommyfredriksson9198 9 місяців тому +5

    I’ve seen this at least twenty times. Makes me cry every time.

  • @deonsheffield1921
    @deonsheffield1921 Рік тому +1

    When he met Fidderer she mentioned him going to the Naval Academy but the announcer says the Air Force Academy

    • @deonsheffield1921
      @deonsheffield1921 Рік тому +1

      In Mommy Problems he mentioned the Marine Commandant being his former CO, and his service in the Marines is mentioned which backs up going to the USNA

  • @karlaortiz4891
    @karlaortiz4891 11 років тому +17

    "With your head held high... " Now tell me, beyond partisan, politic or personal interest... When was the last time you felt you could do that?

    • @LeLaidbackLauncher
      @LeLaidbackLauncher 5 років тому +3

      When I decided to follow my own ideas, principles and beliefs instead of those set forth by someone hoping to get votes instead of actually governing

  • @susanweber6861
    @susanweber6861 2 місяці тому

    Jimmy Smits kills it, like he did on LA Law and NYPD Blue. He takes good roles and makes them great.

  • @LennyCole96
    @LennyCole96 3 роки тому +1

    Anyone running for President or Congress should be made to watch all 7 seasons of the west wing beforehand

  • @LabradorIndependent
    @LabradorIndependent 6 років тому +58

    I'm not even American, and this speech makes me want to be a member of the Democratic Party
    If only the real world was quite so good.

    • @airfish8216
      @airfish8216 4 роки тому

      @DW Palme wahhhhhhhh

    • @sidp8031
      @sidp8031 4 роки тому

      @DW Palme hogwash makes great fertilizer.

    • @davidphipps9331
      @davidphipps9331 4 роки тому

      Keynesian Economics He doesn’t want to, cause he knows that once he does, he will be corrected on how very wrong he is.

  • @Awfulwriter
    @Awfulwriter Рік тому +3

    The look on Zoey's face when she is watching the speech. She looks genuinely enraptured.

  • @tyu3456
    @tyu3456 8 років тому +52

    The speech that Bernie Sanders should make at the convention.

    • @nakedfaves4445
      @nakedfaves4445 8 років тому

      He'll possibly say something just as eloquent (even though he may not be).

    • @shriramvenu
      @shriramvenu 8 років тому +2

      sadly Bernie's speech was all "Hillory Clinton knows that..." :(

    • @brainwasher9876
      @brainwasher9876 7 років тому +5

      Bernie? Say something eloquent? lol.

    • @n25bast
      @n25bast 6 років тому +6

      Hillary had also clinched the nomination before the convention. Here, the convention is deadlocked, plus there was Baker's floor campaign to worry about.

    • @michaelsimpson6970
      @michaelsimpson6970 6 років тому

      Sanders is not a Democrat.

  • @DkongTuber
    @DkongTuber Рік тому +3

    Who here is doing an AP Lang assignment

  • @Whitpusmc
    @Whitpusmc 2 роки тому +3

    A Democrat this Republican could vote for and sleep soundly.

  • @Nedzorz1
    @Nedzorz1 14 років тому +6

    THE best post-Sorkin WestWing moment

  • @davidclendening9732
    @davidclendening9732 3 роки тому +1

    Every Time I see these clips I keep reminded how he was the pimp in SOA😂😂

  • @cubswin3838
    @cubswin3838 7 років тому +8

    Air Force Academy?! It was stated earlier in the series Santos went to Annapolis. He was a Navy pilot.

    • @parkerfilms1
      @parkerfilms1 4 роки тому +1

      There are many small continuity errors like that in the series. So many, in fact, I began to wonder if they were put there on purpose.

    • @michaelashtonjr.ashohara1414
      @michaelashtonjr.ashohara1414 4 роки тому

      Marine Corp fighter pilot.

    • @808INFantry11X
      @808INFantry11X 8 місяців тому

      ​@@michaelashtonjr.ashohara1414 it's most likely an error but it's possible to go to another service academy say air force and go Navy. It's possible to do that it involves conditional release from your service component. It's not easy it has been done. You still because your still commissioning in the miltiary it's just your joining a different service branch.

  • @SAMCRO5164
    @SAMCRO5164 14 років тому +1

    i never noticed that the person introducing santos said he went to the air force acadmey when he went to anapolis, naval acadmey, never noticed it before

  • @fifthbusiness1678
    @fifthbusiness1678 2 місяці тому

    Obama’s speech at the 2004 Democratic convention, which led him to the Presidency 4 yrs later. Inspirational.

  • @skorpyonayts1169
    @skorpyonayts1169 14 років тому +3

    Santos didn't graduate from the Air Force academy. In previous episodes it has been emphasized he graduated from Annapolis.

    • @flyboy152
      @flyboy152 4 роки тому

      Exactly, he was a Marine, he wouldn’t have gone to the Air Force Academy.

    • @dalebateman2610
      @dalebateman2610 2 роки тому

      @@flyboy152 While it is a continuity error, the reality is that there is a mechanism by which graduates of the federal service academies can join a different service.

  • @smv3rs
    @smv3rs 12 років тому +7

    4:07 She's like "That's my man! "

  • @mattep74
    @mattep74 3 роки тому +1

    The moment Helen walks to the other spot is the moment she realizes he will get the nomination

  • @Bitemis
    @Bitemis 10 років тому +28

    Hurricane Santos

    • @Tuneman1984
      @Tuneman1984 8 років тому +19

      You repeat that outside of this room and I'll have you knocking on doors in Alaska, and NOT the urban part.

  • @Windshepard
    @Windshepard 9 років тому +8

    My Cousin graduated from West Point and spent 25 years in the Air Force as a missile commander so yes you can switch branches of service.....

    • @parkerfilms1
      @parkerfilms1 4 роки тому

      Santos at another time in another episode does make reference to having been at Annapolis.

  • @zacharyboudah479
    @zacharyboudah479 4 роки тому +3

    The speech that made Santos President.

    • @spewter
      @spewter 2 роки тому +1

      Bartlett made Santos the nominee with the backroom deal he made with the teachers union.
      And a nuclear disaster made Santos president by damaging Vinnick.
      President Lucky Boi

  • @donedwards5301
    @donedwards5301 Рік тому +2

    That look at 4:07 told it all.

  • @RogueBlackOp
    @RogueBlackOp 4 дні тому

    Now President Bartlet sees what Josh saw in him years ago. Now that he sees what Josh sees in Santos now.

  • @thomasstengel7356
    @thomasstengel7356 3 місяці тому

    Jimmy Smits doesn't get enough credit for just how good he was in the show, IMO.

  • @DaddysPinkBunny
    @DaddysPinkBunny 11 років тому +57

    Gives me chills every time...

  • @Silfir
    @Silfir 14 років тому +13

    I love Josh's face in the end... Like "Damn it. I put that son of the bitch on that podium. I'm so awesome."

  • @merrilouneigenfind104
    @merrilouneigenfind104 5 років тому +9

    I hold my head high. I am a member of the Democratic Party.

  • @MrPig40
    @MrPig40 2 роки тому

    The guy introducing him says he "is a graduate of the Air Force academy".
    He was a Marine.....

  • @ningenJMK
    @ningenJMK 10 років тому +7

    The person introducing Santos said that he was a Marine fighter pilot and a graduate of the Air Force Academy. This is wrong.

    • @chrismancik6482
      @chrismancik6482 10 років тому

      Absolutely!, to give credit to the USAFA instead of USNA is horrible...Go Navy!!

    • @JoelWelter
      @JoelWelter 10 років тому +3

      Upon graduation from any service academy, the member can apply to join any of the military services they choose.

    • @TheCarablanco
      @TheCarablanco 10 років тому

      It's not impossible, but highly unlikely. It's almost as if they took that clip from an outtake? Can't believe it would get past the writers. . .but of course, it did.

    • @ningenJMK
      @ningenJMK 10 років тому +4

      joel1239871 I meant wrong in the context of the character's biography, Santos himself stated he graduated from the Naval Academy at Annapolis, not the AIr Force Academy at Colorado Springs.

    • @TheCarablanco
      @TheCarablanco 10 років тому

      Josh Kim Understood - it was a glitch.

  • @jeremymuir4332
    @jeremymuir4332 6 місяців тому +3

    Whatever the criticisms of the latter seasons, this felt very much like the West Wing. The steadfast looks of belief from Helen before to the heavy but playful pride immediately afterward. This was Matt Santos standing tall on the biggest stage with his own message, un-curated by literary luminaries and lighting his own way. Josh sees he didn't need to drive the car, just start the engine.

  • @samtrotter7177
    @samtrotter7177 4 роки тому +1

    Looking forward to seeing this speech being given some attention with it's superdelegates/ordinary delegates focus if there really is a conflict between them with Bernie at this year's convention. . .

  • @brandonjones8059
    @brandonjones8059 2 місяці тому

    Back when I was proud to have been a member of the Democratic Party.

  • @jespercairowestergaard4498
    @jespercairowestergaard4498 5 років тому

    I do believe this is episode 132, not 133.

  • @MrKco63
    @MrKco63 6 років тому +2

    in the same sentence they say his a a reserve marine pilot that went thru the Air force academy? do Air force academy graduates join the Marines?

    • @graceskerp
      @graceskerp 6 років тому

      See above. They can if they choose and the requested branch agrees.

  • @Scooter916
    @Scooter916 5 місяців тому

    As a Republican, this speech of West Wing always makes me want to vote Democract at times. Freaking jimmy.

  • @npdavis
    @npdavis 13 років тому

    @robseajoe Actually, he does say Houston. It just sounds like "New" and then Josh exhales so you can't hear the rest as well.

  • @2downson
    @2downson 12 років тому +10

    I always wonder why Obama never thought about hiring Sorkin or Wells as his speech writer, or even as his senior advisor. Has he never watched the show?

    • @wasserperson
      @wasserperson 4 роки тому

      Obama had his own voice, but there was a lot of consulting done quietly over the years too.

  • @pauldockree9915
    @pauldockree9915 3 роки тому +1

    Sending kind thoughts to Americans. I would claim they lost their way. I have nothing against Republicans except everything but what do they stand for? Ask them and they look over their shoulders at a rather obese former POTUS who was defeated over a year and a month ago and wait for his incoherence to guide them. I hope to be back again in a years time. Nothing has changed Texas. Neither have you.

  • @glennisbriant5676
    @glennisbriant5676 3 роки тому +1

    American electiions are deeply unsettling

  • @davidatlas8630
    @davidatlas8630 4 місяці тому

    “It’s been suggested to me that party unity is more important than your democratic rights as delegates.” How did we, the people who support our party because we believe it embodies our ideals, get from this to what’s happening right now in Chicago? It’s a sad day.

  • @cz2165
    @cz2165 4 місяці тому +1

    Jimmy Smits totally inhabited this role. So great.

  • @cashcleaner
    @cashcleaner 3 роки тому

    I don’t understand. Santos was a Marine Pilot, so he would have graduated from The US Navy Academy in Annapolis, not from the USAF Academy.

    • @cashcleaner
      @cashcleaner 3 роки тому

      @John Crook Right. That’s my point. He was a Marine Officer and Pilot. Hence, he should have graduated from Annapolis.

  • @CorpeningMedia
    @CorpeningMedia 6 років тому +2

    I always thought the decision to make Josh weak and incompetent over the final season or two was a horrible decision. He didn’t mature and grow into the role, he just went along for the ride.

    • @wasserperson
      @wasserperson 4 роки тому

      The show always swung from showing Josh's hyper-competence to his hubris to his anxious frenzies. Think of it as focusing on the painful moments while there's plenty of off screen triumphs

    • @larrysmith2638
      @larrysmith2638 Рік тому +1

      @@wasserperson I agree with you. Like all of us, Josh had many sides to his character, and he certainly wasn't perfect. But he DID grow. He also backslid at times (like after the election). Toby was my favorite character in the first 5 years of the show. But it was all Josh in the last 2 years.

  • @Amuoralzg
    @Amuoralzg 11 років тому +1

    Sorkin was still in charge in season 2. He wasn't for this.

  • @anmanwell
    @anmanwell 9 років тому +1

    Bernie Sanders needs to make this speech ASAP.

  • @chrischang3002
    @chrischang3002 5 років тому +2

    Santos is a marine pilot. Naval academy graduate, not air force academy graduate.

  • @orsonwelles2023
    @orsonwelles2023 5 місяців тому

    I never liked what they did to Josh's character in this storyline. At every turn he fumbled and Santos picked up the ball and ran with it (this speech, the TV commercial change, etc.). He was never allowed to become a version of Leo demonstrating a real contribution to Santos' success. At one point he even apologized to Santos for not doing much, or the right thing, and Santos reminded him that Josh got him to run. But that was it. Josh got him to run then wasn't shown to be a leader in his own right. The character we spent all these years with failed to grow in those final seasons. He even needed Sam to come in and rescue him after the election. Too bad.

  • @seanwebb605
    @seanwebb605 4 роки тому

    He failed to disclose that he was partners with the White House chief of staff at a Los Angeles Law firm.

  • @NobleHam
    @NobleHam 11 років тому +1

    Two Cathedrals is the best episode of The West Wing, but not the best post-Sorkin episode.

  • @reginaldshort8486
    @reginaldshort8486 9 місяців тому +1

    And That’s how you win

  • @gabrielnakamura7609
    @gabrielnakamura7609 10 років тому +7

    Was this episode directed by J.J Abrams?

    • @punknhead23
      @punknhead23 9 років тому +1

      Alex Graves directed this episode.

    • @Karthos1000
      @Karthos1000 9 років тому +6

      Gabriel Nakamura There would've been a lot more lens flares if it had been directed by J.J. Abrams. I mean... there were an awful lot of lens flares, but the episode would have been comprised ENTIRELY of lens flares if J.J. Abrams had been in charge.
      EDIT: I love J.J. Abrams none the less. Here's hoping Star Wars VII is good!

  • @DFC-d1d
    @DFC-d1d Рік тому

    The best thing the Dems could do is show this speech, then show a Drumpty rally speech back to back. I know it’s a fictional moment in time, but it’s what every American, democrat or republican wants from our leaders. Someone truly for the people, not someone trying to stay out of prison. Not someone looking for the next sucker to come along. Not someone trying to take our rights away. Someone truly for the betterment of our democracy. Vote blue for American 🇺🇸❤️🇺🇸🤍🇺🇸💙🇺🇸

  • @avisharma1006
    @avisharma1006 3 роки тому

    Here is a take: Santos was putting himself as a VP candidate if Baker got the nomination.

  • @erikpipins509
    @erikpipins509 4 роки тому +2

    I wish the show could of continued one more season with the Santos Admin. It was foretelling of what we would have in 2008 with Obama. Hoping for a better 2021

  • @AndreAFirenze
    @AndreAFirenze 7 років тому

    it's a pity in the clip there is not the part when President Bartlet says something like "Find me Josh". that's how the story changed :-)
    Long Live The West Wing

  • @chrisdeacutis5053
    @chrisdeacutis5053 4 роки тому +1

    Lol in fantasy TV land the people choose their own delegate . In the real world the other people running all dropped out and party leaders decided who the nominee would be.

    • @spewter
      @spewter 2 роки тому

      In the episode, President Bartlett did a deal with the teachers unions and that won Santos the nomination.
      The speech was ultimately just fluffy nonsense

  • @MalakianM2S
    @MalakianM2S 6 років тому

    From Bartlet, Santos and Vynick to today...

  • @richard1472
    @richard1472 Рік тому

    Isn't that what being a member of a political party is supposed to be all about?

  • @coachmac6811
    @coachmac6811 5 місяців тому

    Smits does a great job with this

  • @DaveTingwaldd
    @DaveTingwaldd 6 років тому +1

    Gets me every time! 😁

  • @andyt2k
    @andyt2k 3 роки тому +1

    He picks up about 2/3 of bakers supporters

  • @republicanshield
    @republicanshield 12 років тому

    yeah, we have delagates and all but what they dont show on here is the democrats super delegates(high ranking people in the party) that can go for any candidate. in the republican party each state is given two delgates that arent tied to any nominee

  • @threetreasures7698
    @threetreasures7698 2 дні тому

    If had a Latino wife, he would NOT be eligible to win in the USA. He was smart to marry a “b & b”. Very strategic.

  • @cmj0929
    @cmj0929 8 років тому +8

    its crazy that scandal is stealing this shows ideas lol

    • @chubbychuckle
      @chubbychuckle 8 років тому +4

      Scandal? How?

    • @cmj0929
      @cmj0929 2 роки тому

      @@chubbychuckle Latino running for president, the presidents ex-chief of staff being named the Vice Presidential running mate, then one of them gets killed on the night of the election the exact same way as in this show

    • @chubbychuckle
      @chubbychuckle 2 роки тому

      @@cmj0929 Aww okay. I kinda forgot about Frankie for a second. That is very similar.

    • @cmj0929
      @cmj0929 2 роки тому

      @@chubbychuckle oh man I can’t believe you actually responded after me after 6 years lmao but yeah it was VERYYYY similar lol, funny enough I watched WW after watching scandal and was like wait a minute this looks familiar

  • @danlindeke4039
    @danlindeke4039 6 років тому

    If only they'ed show Peg Bundy in the White House!