I give you to consider that it might be better for you to get corona in Germany than in the USA. During your stay in Germany you should have a health insurance that covers almost all costs for a hospital stay. In the USA the financial burden for your family would probably be much higher.
TheManWithTheHat im in her same program. A lot of the kids don’t have insurance in the US, but we’ve all received insurance for our year abroad. Many kids really really don’t wanna get sent back since if they catch it in the US, they won’t be able to afford medical costs (if they get sick enough which is unlikely, but a valid concern)
Hopefully, the people in the US will finally realise how important a public health insurance system is and that it has nothing to do with lack of freedom. Not having a health insurance is just gambling that you don't get ill. The German health insurance system was introduced by Bismarck who was known to be a communist...
Nikioko you are right and i agree with you BUT there are also a lot of other factors to consider here. American culture is very different, people are on average way more unhealthy, way more obese so it would cost a lot more to have free healthcare for everybody. That said, i definitely think that the US should drastically change their healthcare system and do it more like the German system. I just wanted to point out that's it's not so simple to just say "do it like Germany" because the US doesn't have the same circumstances. The American economy works in a very different way and unfortunately it's not that easy. But i really do believe that American politicians should really do something and realize that not everything (especially health care) is not about money but about caring for your citizens
Also the health care system sucks ass in the US. Moreover the dude in charge over there of handling the situation does not believe in vaccines or science. I'd feel much safer outside of the US, pretty much anywhere in the world really, except for China, just because it's the source of the outbreak.
DMSG1981 not sure where you are from but what you are writing is a bunch of BS. There are a lot less people with the virus in the US than in Europe. She will be safer in the US. The healthcare system is great, people are being taken care of
@@sandrac3113 Maybe if she's a millionaire and can afford treatment. But then I'd say the virus will spread rapidly in the US because all the other people can't afford testing even. Also there are people like Rick Santelli on mainstream television telling people that everybody should get infected just to get this over with and prevent the economy of taking a hit. I've never heard anybody saying that shit out loud in Europe. So yeah, I'm willing to double down on my original statement. BTW, I said this: 1) the healthcare system of the US sucks, that is a fact, millions of people are uninsured or can't afford their co-payments or deductibles if they are. 2) the dude in charge (Trump put VP Mike Pence in charge for this issue) does not believe in science and is a vaccine denier, that is also a fact, he is on the record saying these things. 3) I said I'd feel much safer... What do you know about my feelings, that I don't? So where exactly comes the BS in play here?
Hey Montana! There are about 1100 cases in Germany and about 500 (registered) cases in the states. However, there are 2 deaths here and 27 in the states. I am pretty sure that there are way more infections in the states than registered due to the fact that it costs money to see a doctor in the states and a lot people hesitate to get testest. Heres a map where you can see all the infections, deaths etc.: www.tagesschau.de/ausland/coronavirus-karte-101.html
There is no point in comparing current numbers in an ongoing and growing crisis. In fact the further back you go, the greater your personal risk. Rationally you should base yout decision on the quality of health care available to you and your cumulated chances of escaping infection.
*IF* someone gets the virus, it probably would _feel_ nice to be at home, near one's own family. *BUT* how much higher or lower are chances to get the virus in europe vs getting it in america ? *AND* also, what about additional chances to get it during travel, using big crowded international airports ? it's always good to think about it, be reasonable, and take decisions calmly. *_best wishes to everybody !_*
Anson Angela Merkel just stated that 60% will be infected in Germany ..but should be the same in the US..it‘s all about slowing the process ..so that health care system can handle it..in 10 days there will be the same situation in the US
You`re safer in germany. It´s better organized than the states, chances of infection is probably lower and medical suppliement is better. I would even consider delaying vaccation to the states right now.
In Germany there are more registered cases than in the USA, but Germany only has 2 deaths while the US has 27. Most people and the experts (except trumpists) assume that there are a lot more cases in the US than registered, mostly because it costs money to go to the doctor and do the test, while it is free in most of the other countries.
@@sophietitz9689 Still though, in america people would even break the law and go to work, aware of being infected, because lacking a sufficient ("communist", as american republicans like to call it) heath-insurance system, people not being able to work or being quarantined would miss out on their wages, and most americans can just not affort to stay home.
Wow, I'm always impressed by how intelligent you handle the real questions in life and that at the age of 17. To sit down and talk about a question that did cause a headage for all of us and not a single one did have a real answer is the halfway to handle it. As I said no one did have right now the ultimate answer, but as a father, I could imagine what your parents are going through right now, so maybe one fact that the Israeli newspaper "Haaretz" did teach me yesterday could be helpful for your family. The minister/secretary for healthcare in Israel had ordered that any visitor who comes to Israel had to go to quarantine, to protect the citizens of Israel, but after that, the Prime Minister did except US visitors from that rule with the argument that the US did have so little corona cases that a quarantine is far above the top. As "Haaretz" is a more liberal newspaper and in 9 out of 10 cases against Prime Minister Netanjahu, they checked directly Bibi's claim and did found out that the ratio between population and tested folks in the US is the lowest on globe, why (for example) Isreal did have the 3rd highest on globe. Or read the comment from Alexander Nordic here in the comment section. Even if I would recommend the website of the John Hopkins University because this topic is too complicated to trust any media outlet qz.com/1814380/interactive-map-from-johns-hopkins-shows-coronavirus-in-real-time/ it is not the way that I would call them fake news but I have witnessed so many false interpretations from any sort of media that I have started to do my own research.
I’m really sad about this whole Coronavirus thing. My family (dad side) is from Germany and they live there. I come from Ecuador ( South America). I go to a German school and I have a exchange this Summer. I am supposed to go in May 30, but my school and the school in Germany where thinking about not sending us, the students, because of this Coronavirus thing. For now it’s not canceled and I’m praying that this gets better and I can see my family that I see every 5 years. I cry every day because as the years go by, the world gets worse and worse. I just really hope I can go. Sorry for the long, wrong written comment. Love from Ecuador!
I was supposed to go on a exchange too but unfortunately it got cancelled :( my family paid so much money and we don’t know if we’ll get it back.. I hope it turns out good for you
I know this is from March and old information, but you did an awesome job of looking at this as an adult. You did better than most adults did. Without ripping on anyone or being political I just wanted to note how thoughtful, intelligent, and balanced you took this subject on. My grandson likes watching your videos and I am watching it this time and I do isolate more for my reasons, but I do not think anyone should change their life because of my needs. You did a very good job with the limited information at the time.
Hi Montana. I absolutely understand you want to return to the States and want to be with your family. But whichever way you decide - staying in Germany or returning home - I wish you all the best. Take care and stay safe. 🙂💙
I think the most important thing is safety and there should not be any compromises on that! So which country is safer? Here is the data: Germany has 2 Coronavirus deaths with 1,317 cases = 0.2% fatality rate. The US has 732 cases and 27 deaths = 3.7% death rate. Based on this data it seems to be much safer to be in Germany.
The problem with those numbers is: The US isn't testing as much as Germany. So there are more people with the virus but aren't confirmed cases. Of course that causes a higher death rate.
Those numbers are based on different approaches to testing. They are not comparable. Only the growth in the numbers within an area that uses the same methos of testing counts. There is not much of a difference in these rates between the countries.
leave Bavaria NOW if you are not infected already -save your life !!! we will have same situation like Italy in 8-14 days... They dont test ill people in bavaria when they are not been in italy the days before - Bavaria BIG outbreaks ! No masks available here - in January they were sold out in bavaria when the first 16 People gets infected... Leave germany before its too late ...
@@arvedludwig3584 i really think its not good idea to stay here in germany - we will have exact same in a few days like italy. ok, she is young and hopefully get noz infected or with any mild symptoms but in italy there are many patients 20 years old who are in critical condition and here in germany we dont have much intensive care units. I think America is more better healthcare . Our government tells us that 60-70 % here will get sick (because they dont make anything aganst ist- we dont have masks,suits and the health system was in poor condition long ago. They dont even tests ill people here - only if they have been in italy before- but we are here in high risk county for ourselfes. only a few have quarantine - the majority must go to work and my not isolate themselfe so virus here is dramatically spreading.
Nina Miep Was ist falsch mit dir? Hör doch auf, andere so verrückt zu machen und so einen Blödsinn von dir zu geben. Wir haben eins der besten Gesundheitssysteme und auch Leute, die NICHT in Italien waren, werden getestet! Und weißt du wie viele Leute jährlich an der Grippe sterben? Machst du da auch so ein Theater draus?
I feel sorry for you that what should have been the best experience in your school career (experiencing a different culture) is now overshadowed by this terrible disease, a global threat nobody had to endure since 102 years. But from your reflexion about the situation you are doing extremely well, staying rational and comparing pros and cons about your options. And although there is surely a strong desire to be with your family in these days, being in Germany during such a pandemic is not the worst place to be, In fact I consider our health system and our doctors here among the worlds finest and i hope that the virus will not hit you or your host family and your family back home also stays healthy during this crisis,
I recommend you this Podcast called: "Das Coronavirus Update mit Christian Drosten" . He is a virologist who is a consultant of the german goverment. He gives daily updates about the virus from Mo-Fr.
Best suggestion so far. Probably it would be helpful to tell that Prof. Christian Drosten has informations first hand from collegues all over the world.
Ederlerandale Wenn Du unaufgeregte, sehr sachliche Information zum Coronavirus wünscht dem empfehle ich folgenden Podcast zu hören und zu abonnieren. Christian Drosten ist ein deutscher Virologe, der das Institut für Virologie Virus an der Berliner Charité leitet. Er war Mitentdecker des Sarsvirus und hat den Nachweistest in der westlichen Welt für den Coronavirus entwickelt. Extrem empfehlenswert. Für IPhone Nutzer: podcasts.apple.com/de/podcast/das-coronavirus-update-mit-christian-drosten/id1500424869?i=1000466800548 Ansonsten hier zu finden: www.ndr.de/nachrichten/info/Wir-koennen-die-Ausbreitung-verlangsamen,audio643822.html
@@karenste.2874 True on the one hand - but they also started releasing the scripts as far as I know and once you can read along I think it is much easier to follow
I’m an exchange student from Germany in the US right now and since there aren’t many cases here, I’m not very worried. But the only thing that scares me is, that we will be sent home earlier because America might stop the plane traffic between the US and and affected countries...but so hope that won’t happen
There aren't many cases because the us doesn't test the amount necessary for a clearer picture. If you're young and healthy you'll be fine but the official us-numbers are complete bs. Take care and stay healthy
omg ich bin gerade auch auf Austausch in Amerika... ich mach mir ehrlich gesagt auch nicht wirklich Sorgen ob ich Corona bekomme sondern mehr ob ich dann im Juni wieder nach Hause fliegen kann XD aber ich bin optimistisch und hoffe dass das alles schon klar geht
Get back to Germany now if you can. You will not get any priority treatment in an emergency situation in the US, it will be Americans first. Be safe whatever you choose. But please consider the state of emergency healthcare where you are currently. Even if there is no outbreak there yet, do you think the town you are in can handle an epidemic?
Hey Montana. I really enjoy your videos from Germany. It brings back memories of when I was studying abroad in Germany in the late 90s. Regarding the Covid-19 virus, I think objectively the German public health system is better set up to deal with the challenges posed by the spread of the virus. However I can completely understand the sense of loneliness and uncertainty you feel when you are separated from your family during this crisis. If you choose to go home I'm sure your parents will be relieved to have you by their side. If you decide to stay in Germany it will be a tremendous opportunity to grow and become more independent. At the end of the day there are no wrong choices. We travel to learn more about where we belong in this world. Stay positive, stay strong, keep us updates!
I definitely get the worries about family members at home. I’m currently on a semester abroad in Canada and I’m not worried about me getting the corona virus (the risk in Canada is also waaay lower compared to Germany) but I’m worried about my loved ones at home in Germany that could be more affected by it. My program ends at the end of April and I’m glad I will be with my family then. Although I really love Canada and don’t want to leave this place!
congratulations for your very adult reflections. keep your mind open and your personality growing like you did the last few month. enjoy your life in germany and don't care too much about corona. in a few weeks things will look different.
Just chill, it's not that bad, even your president says so and he surely must be right, right? I'm not saying we're taking it too lightly but there shouldn't be public panics about it either.
Thank you so much for this video. I am supposed to leave for a semester abroad in Germany on the 27th. It has been extremely stressful for me to have to wait and see if I will be pulled from my program. I have no intention of having this virus keeping me from traveling as my family and I have put so much time and money into planning my semester abroad. I sadly know that I will be limited in what I can do while im in Europe, but it seems as if its only a matter of time before we are facing the same thing in the US.
Whatever your final decision about this might be. The most important thing is that you feel allright with whatever you will do. It's a special situation nobody could have known about before, so it's not easy. Whatever you will do, I think all people here will support your decision. Stay safe!
1. If you are healthy and do not have any prior illness that could effect your immune system: Don't frikkin panic ! You will be fine, especially in Germany (Healthcare is good) 2. You do not need to disinfect yourself all the time (unless you have a lot of contact with other people like working in a restaurant or hotel etc.) 3. Wash your hands correctly (Basically do everything you normally should do) 4. Don't Panic.... 5. Don't frikkin Panic....
US now is what Germany is like one week ago, what Italy is like two weeks ago, what S Korea is like three weeks ago, what Iran is like one month ago, what China is like one and a half month ago.
In germany we have medical services that doesnt ruin you financeal life if you need to be in the hospital for weeks... so stay here would be the best option for people with medical issues
Hi Montana, its a difficult situation, but by all we know is that the US will face a explosion of corona due to the underdeveloped health system. What we know is that teenagers face close to no risk, they get infected but dont get sick. Most severe cases happen to people older than 60 yrs. Stay calm and enjoy life
@@sandrac3113 It is if you can afford it or cane live with the fact of being indebted for years just for calling an ambulance ($1500) and staying for minor treatments for just a few days (up to high 5 $-figures easily).
I am currently an applicant for the CBYX program and am glad with the current decision of free will. If the program were cancelled it would be truly devastating.
We already have over 200 dead people because of the flu this winter in Germany and nobody talks about it ... In the winter 2017/2018 Germany had over 25000 dead people because of the flu. The most people don't know that. I think if you are healthy, then you will definitely survive the corona virus. :)
Hi Montana, I wish you and your people around, that all stay health. I hope for you, that you could stay in Germany as long as you planned it. With luck, all around coronavirus is past, when you fly back to the USA. I wish you all the best. Have a good time in Germany.
It can be difficult enough to assimilate into a foreign country's culture for a year as an exchange student, without any of the current coronavirus madness thrown into the mix. I can only imagine what that would have meant for me during my own exchange year in the U.S. back in the day. I really hope you get to stay here for the full duration of your program. And I am sure that this will blow over in a few weeks.
I think that, of course you should decide after what makes YOU feel better, BUT the healthcare system here is way better than in the US. Treatments are better here and depending on the insurance you have in the US - way more cheaper as well. There are SO many events getting cancelled here & the government is trying really hard to contain the Virus as best as possible
ex-pat (US) living and working in Germany now since 2004. Everyone has to make their own decisions, but let me say this...pls IF I could, I would, already have a Red T-Shirt which says, "I Survived COVID-19 in Deutschland 2020." IF it is gonna get me at 57, with my social participation, then I say, "her damit - bring it on." Thanks for sharing though.
Everyone commenting that she will get better health care in Germany... y’all act like y’all know her personal situation. She may very well have good health insurance since she is a dependent. Let’s stop making thoughtless assumptions.
My son is in Italy now for high school. We opted to have her in stay. Moving about is a good way to spread or catch the virus. You don't want to bring it back with you. I think you are water where you are.
I understand all the legitimate points that you have mentioned and I totally get that it must be a stressful situation. But I really think you had the best conclusion by saying to be going through this with a positive outlook, trying to stay healthy and not to panic. The authorities are just trying to protect who is more in danger and to contain the virus so that there will always be enough capacities in the hospitals for the vulnerable cases. Too many infected persons at the same time are just harder to deal with. I'm not really sure if anyone would be better off in the U.S. right now. The virus seems to spread in most countries anyway in our globalized world. So the U.S authoritie could place a travel ban on Germany but it's more likely that they will be dealing with the same problems on U.S. territory anyway.
Dear Montana, you are not overreacting at all. I can understand how stressful this decision is. There is a strong likelihood that you will not get sick of this virus because of your age. Unfortunately there is a strong likelihood that many people of old age will be affected by COVID-19 if the public life is not limited in big dimensions right now. Italy did not do this and the health system right now is collapsing. Considering that the rest of your exchange here will also be limited in many ways - no museum, cinema, theatre, travelling - makes the decision even harder. How ever. You were lucky enough that your parents came to visit you just before the crisis. What ever you will decide, all the best to you. With your GERMAN knowledge you can even consider going back now and coming back to study here when we are through this. Take care!
The virus is in Europe a little earlier than the US because of higher population density, but I'd sit it out early rather than late too. No point in returning to the US to get sick 2 months later ^^
Im really sad. I have my conformation soon and it may be canceled.:( also I’m going to America for 1. month in July...I hope I can go...I planed a whole year and I’m so damn excited 🥺🥺 love from Switzerland x
My school (in Germany) had a case but my school is still open because the girl was only in school on Monday in the first week. I find that very irresponsible because she was still there, it doesn't matter how long. The virus could still be everywhere in the school and I don't want to be responsible for infecting someone that has an illness and might die. What do you think about this, should I complain?
Das ist nicht ebola, die todesrate liegt in China bei gerade mal 0,7% und 99% der Toten sind immunschwache Rentner. Also ist die Panik komplett unnötig
@@aj1. bei denen ists dann eh nicht so schlimm, wenns sie erwischt, oder? Wäre ja früher oder später sowieso passiert... Es geht doch darum, es nicht unnötig zu provozieren, um eben die Anfälligen vor einer Infektion zu schützen. Wenn ich mich jetzt z.B. bei irgendeinem Depp anstecke, der die ganzen komplett unnötigen Maßnahmen ignoriert hat, wird es für mich schlimmstenfalls eine Erkältung. Dauert es jedoch 2 Wochen bis sich die Symptome zeigen, kann ich gut und gerne meinen Opa angesteckt haben, für den es dann bestimmt nicht so witzig wird... Die bisherigen Maßnahmen führen meiner Meinung nach in keiner Weise zu einer Einschränkung der Lebensqualität und sind deswegen auch ganz einfach einzuhalten.
Dear Montana, whatever you do, best wishes to you. Hopefully you won't catch it. Yet even so you have a very very high chance to survive as a healthy young woman. I believe you are immediately health insured here in Germany as an exchange student. So, even in the unlikely chance that you caught the bug, you'd have a very low hospital bill compared to the USA. Sure, I completely understand that you are feeling a bit unsure about your loved ones at home. I admire your rational approach to this topic. Panic won't help. Restricting yourself concerning large crowds is probably reasonable advice currently. So traveling among other passengers in a crowded airport and plane might not be the best idea. But then again, the chances are still very low to catch it in any case. So, whatever happens, hopefully you will still have a great time here.
It's good to to see that you decide in such an objective way. And while I do not want to joke about a serious topic and a stressful decision, I think you unintentionally included a pun: "...could lead to death or more severe symptoms..." in my opinion death so the most serious symptom of an illness. Sorry, of course I got what you were saying
I'm personally not really concerned about catching the corona virus, but saying that I fear that my grandparents are going to catch it... stay safe and be careful all of you
Soo I managed to catch the virus. 22 yrs old. So far it's really just like a flu, though the staying at home for two weeks part really sucks. I just wanna go to the gym and grocery shopping 😭
I am right now in Canada as a German exchange student and I was thinking exactly the same things. Here in Canada everything happed very just over the last week which makes it a bit scary but I wanted to ask if you still have the choice to stay in Germany because I heard from other exchange students with the Bundestag Stipendium in the United States that they have to fly home next week so I just wanted to ask if the same will happen to you. Thank you for this great video 🥰🤗
Now I can understand better why my Sister wants to leave Ireland early to come back to Germany...thanks! We still don't know If she'll really Go but it's really difficult living abroad with such circumstances
Damn tricky situation, im studying in a different city than i was born in, but im happy to be at my birthplace with my family right now instead of in my tiny apartment in the city of my university. It wont make much difference in the chances of getting infected but it definitely gives me a better feeling. So I would say listen to your gut feeling regarding your decision as i think theres no optimal way anyways. Although it would be really sad if you left early of course. Happy hand washing! :D
❤️ My daughter has to leave as well 😥 They have decided this already The flight will be booked for the next week already Wish you so much luck and many good things for your future Stay so cute as you are Many many Greets 😘
🇩🇪 It's "funny" how after arriving here in Germany as an exchange student (I'm documenting my journey here too btw)... It's weird that after arriving here this video pops up... Hopefully the situation improves! We are somehow in the same situation now,... Well almost, I'm from Mexico & Idk how the authorities are handling this... Any question or whatever you can contact me Montana! I wish you the best!!
My father is a doctor and it's very likely that he is going to have contact with an infected person sooner or later (inadvertent) and that he is going to be put into quarantine for 14 days.. and with him his family. I decided to be with my family anyways. I normally don't live with my parents and siblings (moved out a year ago) but I really want to be with them because it is a very scary time. My uncle almost died because of influenza last year and it just reminds me of that again.. so I'm scared that something might happen to a member of my family. My decision might not be very reasonable but maybe I'm not as brave as you are. I hope that you have some wonderful last months in Germany anyways! (And sorry for my English, I never wrote about this topic so I don't really now the vocabulary)
but you currently live near passau rogjt? there aren't any cases there yet. at least not on the side i live. in vilshofen there were 2 cases but there haven't been any more confirmed cases somewhere close to us and passau or did i miss anything?
So my classtrip to the UK, which is in the end of March, maybe gets cancelled because of the corona virus and it sucks. I’m already hyped for more than a year and now our plans get ruined.
a few weeks ago Trump said corona virus is a hoax made by the democrats, a few weeks later he said the number of infections in the states will soon be zero and now (a few weeks later) the numbers are exploding in the us as well and you are talking about Germany being too chill.
air hug how? Cases here have increased from 50 last weekend to 1500 now and government does nothing to prevent the spread !! We’re caring too much about economy than people
Wow I hope those that elected to head home can get out before the Europe-US travel ban goes into effect. Must be super stressful over there right now, hope everyone is coping ok.
There are some thoughts about that that every student has to ask themselves and both decisions are understandable. Staying in germany you'd profit of a very modern healthcare system and since as a student you had to get health ensurance, your treatment wouldn't cost you much, if infected. The chance of an infection probably is as high here as it would be in the US. BUT: If infected, it might get complicated to travel back to your family for quite a while, meaning you'd spend your time alone abroard. Even if not infected there is the risk of borders to close down completly and airtravel between countries to stop, so you might get stuck in Germany for a while. Also the thought of someone in your family getting infected and you being half a world away is something that might be hard to handle for some people. I can understand everyone who wants to be close to their family in this situation, although there would be nothing you could do, if infection stroke.
The US is doing very little testing. People get denied testing even with strong symptoms as long as they don't have any links to other infected people (in some states). Up until now, most people even were charged hundreds of dollars for their test, although that hopefully changes in the near future. But the number of unreported cases is most likely pretty high over there. Consider folks with low paying jobs barely making ends meet. They sure as hell won't wanna pay for getting tested, and can't afford taking a pay cut while staying at home stick either. Iirc only twelve states have laws that make sure you still get payed when you're sick at home. Weigh this against your desire to be with your family during this time, which I can totally understand.
I think traveling is one of the worst options right now. In my opinion, as much people as possible should be staying away from public places were larger numbers of people come together. This goes especially for train stations, trains, airports, planes, etc. I hope they won't force you to leave early. You are safe in Germany, our health system does work, in case you get hit by that virus. There is a possibillity, that hard times are waiting for it and for all of us, but still. And of course this will hit the USA just as well. So "hiding" back home in the US isn't really a thing, but I guess staying with your family whould be beneficial in other ways. But this virus crisis might affect your options to get anything out of your program during the next months. I cross my fingers for you, that it won't! Possibly beeing forced to stay away from school is actually a sad thing. It's a shame that no school ever prepared for such a situation. Taking class by using the internet is technically possible. This way everyone could still get something out of it during times of isolation from each other.
I would assume doing international travel would increase your chances of catching the virus right now and if you have already caught it without realizing you would be spreading it further by leaving right now. Germany is probably not the worst place in the world to catch the virus as people in the comments have pointed out and its probably best to just stick to the usual safety measures (wash hands, don't shake hands for greetings, keep a bit of distance to others etc.) and hope for the best.
One problem in the USA is not only health insurance. Another great problem is that Mike Pence is responsable for the coordination of the protection. As far as I know he once was governor of Indiana and during this period HIV infections increased in Indiana like no other time because of his decisions. An ignorant coordination is something that should be considered.
If you have love´d one´s its maybe better to not visit them. Isolation is the best protection against infection. If things go bad, you could get medical support in germany at a much lower price. ( I assume) sorry for my bad grammar.
I and my girlfriend are not at all afraid of the virus at all. I am a mathematician and she is a doctor (of medicine, of course), so I know the odds and she knows the danger. What we are afraid of is the spreading hysteria. And yes, that's basically what it is. For your situation, I can only say this: 1. It is highly unlikely the you are going to catch a SARS-CoV-2 infection at all. I know that they are talking about 60-70% of all the people in germany are going to get an infection, but that's meant on a large scale. Even if the spreading would continue on the recent scale it would take months before you are in real danger statistically. (And no, it is not an exponential rate, it is a logistic one. We are only in such an early state that they seem like the same.) 2. Even if you catch an infection, it is very unlikely that you get badly ill by it. You are young and seem healthy so getting an infection isn't even the worst that could happen to you, because you'll be immune to the virus afterwards at least for a certain time. 3. Even if you, for some reason, would get seriously ill, our medical system would treat you at least as good as the american one. I don't know if you have an insurance back in the US, but you have one in germany. You'll automatically get the best possible treatment here. The only possibility to get a better treatment in the US would be to really have a lot of money or a very, very good insurance. 4. If you get an infection, it's maybe even better for your loved ones, especially your grandparents, if you are abroad and can't infect them as well. Being abroad for an exchange means that you are likely having a lot less social interaction then at home, even further reducing the likelyhood of being infected or infecting someone else. 5. What is the fuss all about anyway? Of course people are going to die, which is a bad thing. Of course it is dangerous and it is a good thing to try to contain the virus as long as possible to slow down the spreading, yes. But panic buying or many other reactions that can be seen recently are absolutely out of place. We will not run out of toilet paper, why should we? Surgical masks don't protect you from beeing infected, they only protect other of being infected by you, if you already are, and they do so only for a very limited time of about 20 minutes before they are trash. They are only for medical staff and for the sick. Same goes for germicides. As the name say (unfortunantaly it doesn't in german language) they are against germs. That's mostly bacteria. They only have a limited efectiveness against viruses. Still, some persons are hoarding them in litres while some clinics are running low? That's plainly stupid. Two years ago, we had a flu epidemic in germany with around 25.000 deaths. That was really, really bad. Was there any panic? No, there wasn't. And there is absolutely no reason for this now. Stay calm, stay rational, stay hygienic. And for you, Montana: Just stay where you are.
I would stay in Germany. They have one of the best hospital's worldwide. Even special hospital's are everywhere. In the US you would pay so much for less service. And.. the chance to infect with Corona is much higher by going to the airport, sitting in a little plane for hours.. But I mean it's your thing
I can totally understand that people wanna be closer to their family now because they are scared. However I hope this doesn't sound rude, I think it's way smarter to stay in Germany from a financial standpoint because everything Corona (testing, treatment, ambulance drives) related it covered by the insurance and is free, while in the US you'd have to pay for everything yourself. You're in a country with a working free health care, why not using it? But again, I totally understand people going back out of fear of the virus or the closing borders
Just do what you think is the best for you. Discuss it with your parents and think about the options. Nobody in the comment section knows it better than you.
I think it may feel more safe to get the virus in a familiar environment at home in the US, but when I look at healthcare systems I think rationally it would be smarter to stay in Germany haha
The problem is that you can transmit the virus without having symptoms of the disease. That means someone is on a bus or train and doesn't know it, and you are using public transport. Also, school is potentially dangerous at the moment. My doctor had to close the practice for a day because of a confirmed case. And if it comes to the quarantine you'll be stuck in Germany. This is getting to be a very scary situation...
The situation is obviously much different for you since you‘re abroad and away from your family, but leaving those super important factors out, I think I’d feel much safer here than I would in the US at least right now. Of course being in the middle of Europe might bite us in the a.. eventually because shutting the country off is probably easier in the US, but right now I think the level of public information is much better and more honest here. I don‘t want to imagine living in a country where you can‘t trust your government on matters like this and unfortunately that‘s the impression I‘m getting from America right now.
The only thing I definitely cannot (under)stand here in Germany are those disgusting people stealing disinfects from hospitals 😠 or those people who literally buy ALL the god damn loo paper 🧻, soap 🧼 and toothbrushes from the supermarkets 😒😠 like wtf honestly?! I’m freaking out!! Two weeks ago you couldn’t even buy any milk anymore in the supermarkets nearby because everything was GONE 😒 ..
I give you to consider that it might be better for you to get corona in Germany than in the USA. During your stay in Germany you should have a health insurance that covers almost all costs for a hospital stay. In the USA the financial burden for your family would probably be much higher.
TheManWithTheHat im in her same program. A lot of the kids don’t have insurance in the US, but we’ve all received insurance for our year abroad. Many kids really really don’t wanna get sent back since if they catch it in the US, they won’t be able to afford medical costs (if they get sick enough which is unlikely, but a valid concern)
Additionally, children/youth are at very low risk and Germany has more specialized hospital beds.
Hopefully, the people in the US will finally realise how important a public health insurance system is and that it has nothing to do with lack of freedom. Not having a health insurance is just gambling that you don't get ill. The German health insurance system was introduced by Bismarck who was known to be a communist...
Nikioko you are right and i agree with you BUT there are also a lot of other factors to consider here. American culture is very different, people are on average way more unhealthy, way more obese so it would cost a lot more to have free healthcare for everybody. That said, i definitely think that the US should drastically change their healthcare system and do it more like the German system. I just wanted to point out that's it's not so simple to just say "do it like Germany" because the US doesn't have the same circumstances. The American economy works in a very different way and unfortunately it's not that easy. But i really do believe that American politicians should really do something and realize that not everything (especially health care) is not about money but about caring for your citizens
@TheBlackiwid your body can manage to “put your problems aside“ if you're on a regular work base
Please excuse any mistakes, I'm german
The virus is in the US too, there is not a higher safety. Good decision.
Also the health care system sucks ass in the US. Moreover the dude in charge over there of handling the situation does not believe in vaccines or science. I'd feel much safer outside of the US, pretty much anywhere in the world really, except for China, just because it's the source of the outbreak.
DMSG1981 not sure where you are from but what you are writing is a bunch of BS. There are a lot less people with the virus in the US than in Europe. She will be safer in the US. The healthcare system is great, people are being taken care of
@@sandrac3113 Germany also takes care. And we have around the same people with the virus as the US
@@sandrac3113 Maybe if she's a millionaire and can afford treatment. But then I'd say the virus will spread rapidly in the US because all the other people can't afford testing even. Also there are people like Rick Santelli on mainstream television telling people that everybody should get infected just to get this over with and prevent the economy of taking a hit. I've never heard anybody saying that shit out loud in Europe.
So yeah, I'm willing to double down on my original statement.
BTW, I said this:
1) the healthcare system of the US sucks, that is a fact, millions of people are uninsured or can't afford their co-payments or deductibles if they are.
2) the dude in charge (Trump put VP Mike Pence in charge for this issue) does not believe in science and is a vaccine denier, that is also a fact, he is on the record saying these things.
3) I said I'd feel much safer... What do you know about my feelings, that I don't?
So where exactly comes the BS in play here?
@@DMSG1981 Italy is much more dangerous it has almost 2 times more active cases
Hey Montana! There are about 1100 cases in Germany and about 500 (registered) cases in the states. However, there are 2 deaths here and 27 in the states. I am pretty sure that there are way more infections in the states than registered due to the fact that it costs money to see a doctor in the states and a lot people hesitate to get testest. Heres a map where you can see all the infections, deaths etc.:
www.tagesschau.de/ausland/coronavirus-karte-101.html
Alexander Nordic its because the tests in the states are inaccurate
There is no point in comparing current numbers in an ongoing and growing crisis. In fact the further back you go, the greater your personal risk. Rationally you should base yout decision on the quality of health care available to you and your cumulated chances of escaping infection.
@ukkr The air on planes is way cleaner than in most rooms.
ukkr it’s likely more $1000 or more if you are not insured. Some guy got a $4000 bill from the hospital after he got tested.
*IF* someone gets the virus, it probably would _feel_ nice to be at home, near one's own family.
*BUT* how much higher or lower are chances to get the virus in europe vs getting it in america ?
*AND* also, what about additional chances to get it during travel, using big crowded international airports ?
it's always good to think about it, be reasonable, and take decisions calmly. *_best wishes to everybody !_*
Yeah, long hours on a plane is probably a good way to get infected.
Hauke Holst *definitely
@@user-wm5ot5uj3q Erbsenzähler ;-)
Anson Angela Merkel just stated that 60% will be infected in Germany ..but should be the same in the US..it‘s all about slowing the process ..so that health care system can handle it..in 10 days there will be the same situation in the US
@@tillm2481 I don't know what Merkel said, but experts say that 40-70% or the worlds population will catch it in the coming years.
Egal wie lange du noch in Deutschland bleibst, ich wünsche dir eine wundervolle, stressfreie Zeit :-)
You`re safer in germany. It´s better organized than the states, chances of infection is probably lower and medical suppliement is better. I would even consider delaying vaccation to the states right now.
In Germany there are more registered cases than in the USA, but Germany only has 2 deaths while the US has 27. Most people and the experts (except trumpists) assume that there are a lot more cases in the US than registered, mostly because it costs money to go to the doctor and do the test, while it is free in most of the other countries.
In Germany are also a lot of more Corona cases than tested. I do not think that everyone who is coughing in my tram was at the doctor.
@@sophietitz9689 Still though, in america people would even break the law and go to work, aware of being infected, because lacking a sufficient ("communist", as american republicans like to call it) heath-insurance system, people not being able to work or being quarantined would miss out on their wages, and most americans can just not affort to stay home.
Wow, I'm always impressed by how intelligent you handle the real questions in life and that at the age of 17. To sit down and talk about a question that did cause a headage for all of us and not a single one did have a real answer is the halfway to handle it. As I said no one did have right now the ultimate answer, but as a father, I could imagine what your parents are going through right now, so maybe one fact that the Israeli newspaper "Haaretz" did teach me yesterday could be helpful for your family. The minister/secretary for healthcare in Israel had ordered that any visitor who comes to Israel had to go to quarantine, to protect the citizens of Israel, but after that, the Prime Minister did except US visitors from that rule with the argument that the US did have so little corona cases that a quarantine is far above the top. As "Haaretz" is a more liberal newspaper and in 9 out of 10 cases against Prime Minister Netanjahu, they checked directly Bibi's claim and did found out that the ratio between population and tested folks in the US is the lowest on globe, why (for example) Isreal did have the 3rd highest on globe. Or read the comment from Alexander Nordic here in the comment section. Even if I would recommend the website of the John Hopkins University because this topic is too complicated to trust any media outlet qz.com/1814380/interactive-map-from-johns-hopkins-shows-coronavirus-in-real-time/ it is not the way that I would call them fake news but I have witnessed so many false interpretations from any sort of media that I have started to do my own research.
You're far saver in a country with a functioning health care system, where a sane government takes the needed actions.
I’m really sad about this whole Coronavirus thing. My family (dad side) is from Germany and they live there. I come from Ecuador ( South America). I go to a German school and I have a exchange this Summer. I am supposed to go in May 30, but my school and the school in Germany where thinking about not sending us, the students, because of this Coronavirus thing. For now it’s not canceled and I’m praying that this gets better and I can see my family that I see every 5 years. I cry every day because as the years go by, the world gets worse and worse. I just really hope I can go. Sorry for the long, wrong written comment.
Love from Ecuador!
i’m so sorry
I recommend you to read the book Factfulness! The world is not getting worse - it’s getting better day by day! Don’t worry ❤️
Arved Ludwig just because things are getting better, doesn’t mean that everything is great.
I was supposed to go on a exchange too but unfortunately it got cancelled :( my family paid so much money and we don’t know if we’ll get it back.. I hope it turns out good for you
Montana Showalter thank you so much for your wishes, but my school just told me it got cancelled, I never cried so much in my life
Make the decision you feel good about
feelings are absolutely no safe ground for a rational decision.
I know this is from March and old information, but you did an awesome job of looking at this as an adult. You did better than most adults did. Without ripping on anyone or being political I just wanted to note how thoughtful, intelligent, and balanced you took this subject on. My grandson likes watching your videos and I am watching it this time and I do isolate more for my reasons, but I do not think anyone should change their life because of my needs. You did a very good job with the limited information at the time.
Hi Montana. I absolutely understand you want to return to the States and want to be with your family.
But whichever way you decide - staying in Germany or returning home - I wish you all the best. Take care and stay safe. 🙂💙
I think the most important thing is safety and there should not be any compromises on that! So which country is safer? Here is the data: Germany has 2 Coronavirus deaths with 1,317 cases = 0.2% fatality rate. The US has 732 cases and 27 deaths = 3.7% death rate. Based on this data it seems to be much safer to be in Germany.
The problem with those numbers is: The US isn't testing as much as Germany. So there are more people with the virus but aren't confirmed cases. Of course that causes a higher death rate.
Those numbers are based on different approaches to testing. They are not comparable. Only the growth in the numbers within an area that uses the same methos of testing counts. There is not much of a difference in these rates between the countries.
The other problem with that is it hit a nursing home as well with old people that have compromised systems
I'm in Bavaria too doing an au pair year. It's a really difficult topic but I agree we should all respect eachothers' opinions and feelings.
leave Bavaria NOW if you are not infected already -save your life !!! we will have same situation like Italy in 8-14 days... They dont test ill people in bavaria when they are not been in italy the days before - Bavaria BIG outbreaks ! No masks available here - in January they were sold out in bavaria when the first 16 People gets infected... Leave germany before its too late ...
Nina Miep Goooosh shut up🤦🏼♀️🤦🏼♀️🤦🏼♀️
@@arvedludwig3584 i really think its not good idea to stay here in germany - we will have exact same in a few days like italy. ok, she is young and hopefully get noz infected or with any mild symptoms but in italy there are many patients 20 years old who are in critical condition and here in germany we dont have much intensive care units. I think America is more better healthcare .
Our government tells us that 60-70 % here will get sick (because they dont make anything aganst ist- we dont have masks,suits and the health system was in poor condition long ago. They dont even tests ill people here - only if they have been in italy before- but we are here in high risk county for ourselfes. only a few have quarantine - the majority must go to work and my not isolate themselfe so virus here is dramatically spreading.
Nina Miep Was ist falsch mit dir? Hör doch auf, andere so verrückt zu machen und so einen Blödsinn von dir zu geben. Wir haben eins der besten Gesundheitssysteme und auch Leute, die NICHT in Italien waren, werden getestet!
Und weißt du wie viele Leute jährlich an der Grippe sterben? Machst du da auch so ein Theater draus?
@@ninamiep734 Get a fuckin' life!
I feel sorry for you that what should have been the best experience in your school career (experiencing a different culture) is now overshadowed by this terrible disease, a global threat nobody had to endure since 102 years.
But from your reflexion about the situation you are doing extremely well, staying rational and comparing pros and cons about your options.
And although there is surely a strong desire to be with your family in these days, being in Germany during such a pandemic is not the worst place to be, In fact I consider our health system and our doctors here among the worlds finest and i hope that the virus will not hit you or your host family and your family back home also stays healthy during this crisis,
Archie Gates i completely agree! I think it's a really good idea to stay but of course it's everybody's personal choice
I recommend you this Podcast called: "Das Coronavirus Update mit Christian Drosten" . He is a
virologist who is a consultant of the german goverment. He gives daily updates about the virus from Mo-Fr.
Best suggestion so far. Probably it would be helpful to tell that Prof. Christian Drosten has informations first hand from collegues all over the world.
Not to be mean or anything but I think it might be to complicated to understand with her german
Ederlerandale Wenn Du unaufgeregte, sehr sachliche Information zum Coronavirus wünscht dem empfehle ich folgenden Podcast zu hören und zu abonnieren. Christian Drosten ist ein deutscher Virologe, der das Institut für Virologie Virus an der Berliner Charité leitet.
Er war Mitentdecker des Sarsvirus und hat den Nachweistest in der westlichen Welt für den Coronavirus entwickelt.
Extrem empfehlenswert.
Für IPhone Nutzer:
podcasts.apple.com/de/podcast/das-coronavirus-update-mit-christian-drosten/id1500424869?i=1000466800548
Ansonsten hier zu finden:
www.ndr.de/nachrichten/info/Wir-koennen-die-Ausbreitung-verlangsamen,audio643822.html
@@karenste.2874 True on the one hand - but they also started releasing the scripts as far as I know and once you can read along I think it is much easier to follow
@@stephanwildemann8177 Vielen Dank für den Tipp!!
I’m an exchange student from Germany in the US right now and since there aren’t many cases here, I’m not very worried. But the only thing that scares me is, that we will be sent home earlier because America might stop the plane traffic between the US and and affected countries...but so hope that won’t happen
There aren't many cases because the us doesn't test the amount necessary for a clearer picture. If you're young and healthy you'll be fine but the official us-numbers are complete bs. Take care and stay healthy
Peter Pain Yes thank you:) I’m just worried about going home earlier:/
omg ich bin gerade auch auf Austausch in Amerika... ich mach mir ehrlich gesagt auch nicht wirklich Sorgen ob ich Corona bekomme sondern mehr ob ich dann im Juni wieder nach Hause fliegen kann XD aber ich bin optimistisch und hoffe dass das alles schon klar geht
My suggestion: get the f*** out while you can! Hau ab! Fahr nach Hause! Hier bist 10x besser aufgehoben als in Schlamerica.
Get back to Germany now if you can.
You will not get any priority treatment in an emergency situation in the US, it will be Americans first.
Be safe whatever you choose.
But please consider the state of emergency healthcare where you are currently.
Even if there is no outbreak there yet, do you think the town you are in can handle an epidemic?
Hey Montana. I really enjoy your videos from Germany. It brings back memories of when I was studying abroad in Germany in the late 90s. Regarding the Covid-19 virus, I think objectively the German public health system is better set up to deal with the challenges posed by the spread of the virus. However I can completely understand the sense of loneliness and uncertainty you feel when you are separated from your family during this crisis. If you choose to go home I'm sure your parents will be relieved to have you by their side. If you decide to stay in Germany it will be a tremendous opportunity to grow and become more independent. At the end of the day there are no wrong choices. We travel to learn more about where we belong in this world. Stay positive, stay strong, keep us updates!
I definitely get the worries about family members at home. I’m currently on a semester abroad in Canada and I’m not worried about me getting the corona virus (the risk in Canada is also waaay lower compared to Germany) but I’m worried about my loved ones at home in Germany that could be more affected by it. My program ends at the end of April and I’m glad I will be with my family then. Although I really love Canada and don’t want to leave this place!
congratulations for your very adult reflections.
keep your mind open and your personality growing like you did the last few month.
enjoy your life in germany and don't care too much about corona. in a few weeks things will look different.
Just chill, it's not that bad, even your president says so and he surely must be right, right? I'm not saying we're taking it too lightly but there shouldn't be public panics about it either.
I hope you are being sarcastic about trump
Hi Anriandor. See you on TMP!
@@alexandernordic8551 Ye, actually was because otherwise..
Montana I do agree with others and you face a rough decision. Good luck and stay safe.
Thank you so much for this video. I am supposed to leave for a semester abroad in Germany on the 27th. It has been extremely stressful for me to have to wait and see if I will be pulled from my program. I have no intention of having this virus keeping me from traveling as my family and I have put so much time and money into planning my semester abroad. I sadly know that I will be limited in what I can do while im in Europe, but it seems as if its only a matter of time before we are facing the same thing in the US.
Whatever your final decision about this might be. The most important thing is that you feel allright with whatever you will do. It's a special situation nobody could have known about before, so it's not easy. Whatever you will do, I think all people here will support your decision. Stay safe!
Honestly my highest respect for your decision.
1. If you are healthy and do not have any prior illness that could effect your immune system: Don't frikkin panic ! You will be fine, especially in Germany (Healthcare is good)
2. You do not need to disinfect yourself all the time (unless you have a lot of contact with other people like working in a restaurant or hotel etc.)
3. Wash your hands correctly (Basically do everything you normally should do)
4. Don't Panic....
5. Don't frikkin Panic....
US now is what Germany is like one week ago, what Italy is like two weeks ago, what S Korea is like three weeks ago, what Iran is like one month ago, what China is like one and a half month ago.
US is about on the same cov level as Germany, they just don't know yet ...
In germany we have medical services that doesnt ruin you financeal life if you need to be in the hospital for weeks... so stay here would be the best option for people with medical issues
This is a question of insurance, not hospitals.
Hi Montana, its a difficult situation, but by all we know is that the US will face a explosion of corona due to the underdeveloped health system. What we know is that teenagers face close to no risk, they get infected but dont get sick. Most severe cases happen to people older than 60 yrs. Stay calm and enjoy life
Think about the health system in the US and in Germany. That should have an impact on your decision...
Ulrich Hauser-Ehninger people in the US are well taken care of. Healthcare is very advanced in the US.
@@sandrac3113 It is if you can afford it or cane live with the fact of being indebted for years just for calling an ambulance ($1500) and staying for minor treatments for just a few days (up to high 5 $-figures easily).
I am currently an applicant for the CBYX program and am glad with the current decision of free will. If the program were cancelled it would be truly devastating.
We already have over 200 dead people because of the flu this winter in Germany and nobody talks about it ...
In the winter 2017/2018 Germany had over 25000 dead people because of the flu.
The most people don't know that.
I think if you are healthy, then you will definitely survive the corona virus. :)
klaus kleber yes, that’s so true- I don’t get most people, no one has died in Germany on corona yet.
@@lalaha726 2 people have died so far one in Essen another one in Heinsberg!
Hi Montana, I wish you and your people around, that all stay health.
I hope for you, that you could stay in Germany as long as you planned it.
With luck, all around coronavirus is past, when you fly back to the USA.
I wish you all the best. Have a good time in Germany.
There’s tons of cases in the US as well .....
and the US is less prepared because millions don't have health insurance and won't go to the doctor to get tested.
Guys she is a literally a teenager and it’s a pandemic. She wants to be with her family. Have a little heart goodness.
I hope you stay until the end of your exchange program and I hope you and your beloved ones will not get ill with Corona.
It can be difficult enough to assimilate into a foreign country's culture for a year as an exchange student, without any of the current coronavirus madness thrown into the mix. I can only imagine what that would have meant for me during my own exchange year in the U.S. back in the day.
I really hope you get to stay here for the full duration of your program. And I am sure that this will blow over in a few weeks.
I think that, of course you should decide after what makes YOU feel better, BUT the healthcare system here is way better than in the US. Treatments are better here and depending on the insurance you have in the US - way more cheaper as well. There are SO many events getting cancelled here & the government is trying really hard to contain the Virus as best as possible
ex-pat (US) living and working in Germany now since 2004. Everyone has to make their own decisions, but let me say this...pls
IF I could, I would, already have a Red T-Shirt which says, "I Survived COVID-19 in Deutschland 2020." IF it is gonna get me at 57, with my social participation, then I say, "her damit - bring it on." Thanks for sharing though.
I love your "Denglish" xD
"her damit - bring it on."
Nice one!!
Will you continue your vlog after going back to the US in June?
She will
You found good words for this situation :)
Everyone commenting that she will get better health care in Germany... y’all act like y’all know her personal situation. She may very well have good health insurance since she is a dependent. Let’s stop making thoughtless assumptions.
My son is in Italy now for high school. We opted to have her in stay. Moving about is a good way to spread or catch the virus. You don't want to bring it back with you. I think you are water where you are.
I know Mom and Dad are worried sick Montana, but as an American, I feel you are much safer in Germany.
I understand all the legitimate points that you have mentioned and I totally get that it must be a stressful situation. But I really think you had the best conclusion by saying to be going through this with a positive outlook, trying to stay healthy and not to panic. The authorities are just trying to protect who is more in danger and to contain the virus so that there will always be enough capacities in the hospitals for the vulnerable cases. Too many infected persons at the same time are just harder to deal with.
I'm not really sure if anyone would be better off in the U.S. right now. The virus seems to spread in most countries anyway in our globalized world. So the U.S authoritie could place a travel ban on Germany but it's more likely that they will be dealing with the same problems on U.S. territory anyway.
fyi: i remember Trump firing US pandemic team 2 years ago to save money. ,-)
Really? 😂
Please stay here forwever, youre such a geat win for us.
I'm traveling to Australia soon, for some months going to school there. I just hope that Ican take my flight
Dear Montana, you are not overreacting at all.
I can understand how stressful this decision is.
There is a strong likelihood that you will not get sick of this virus because of your age.
Unfortunately there is a strong likelihood that many people of old age will be affected by COVID-19
if the public life is not limited in big dimensions right now.
Italy did not do this and the health system right now is collapsing.
Considering that the rest of your exchange here will also be limited in many ways
- no museum, cinema, theatre, travelling - makes the decision even harder.
How ever. You were lucky enough that your parents came to visit you just before the crisis.
What ever you will decide, all the best to you.
With your GERMAN knowledge you can even consider going back now
and coming back to study here when we are through this.
Take care!
The virus is in Europe a little earlier than the US because of higher population density, but I'd sit it out early rather than late too. No point in returning to the US to get sick 2 months later ^^
Im really sad. I have my conformation soon and it may be canceled.:( also I’m going to America for 1. month in July...I hope I can go...I planed a whole year and I’m so damn excited 🥺🥺 love from Switzerland x
Corona is no problem at all... If you are not 60+ years old you are pretty much safe. Additionally 2 Weeks free extra holidays when you get it! ;)
My school (in Germany) had a case but my school is still open because the girl was only in school on Monday in the first week. I find that very irresponsible because she was still there, it doesn't matter how long. The virus could still be everywhere in the school and I don't want to be responsible for infecting someone that has an illness and might die. What do you think about this, should I complain?
Das ist nicht ebola, die todesrate liegt in China bei gerade mal 0,7% und 99% der Toten sind immunschwache Rentner. Also ist die Panik komplett unnötig
_"had a case"_ : a case of someone ill with something ? a case of someone suspected with the virus ? or a case of verified infection with that virus ?
@@Anson_AKB sorry for not clarifying. A case as in someone was tested positive for the coronavirus.
@@aj1. bei denen ists dann eh nicht so schlimm, wenns sie erwischt, oder? Wäre ja früher oder später sowieso passiert...
Es geht doch darum, es nicht unnötig zu provozieren, um eben die Anfälligen vor einer Infektion zu schützen. Wenn ich mich jetzt z.B. bei irgendeinem Depp anstecke, der die ganzen komplett unnötigen Maßnahmen ignoriert hat, wird es für mich schlimmstenfalls eine Erkältung. Dauert es jedoch 2 Wochen bis sich die Symptome zeigen, kann ich gut und gerne meinen Opa angesteckt haben, für den es dann bestimmt nicht so witzig wird...
Die bisherigen Maßnahmen führen meiner Meinung nach in keiner Weise zu einer Einschränkung der Lebensqualität und sind deswegen auch ganz einfach einzuhalten.
@@813ted danke, genau das ist auch meine Meinung. Es geht mir hierbei nicht um meine eigene Gesundheit, sondern um die der gefährdeten Menschen.
Dear Montana,
whatever you do, best wishes to you. Hopefully you won't catch it. Yet even so you have a very very high chance to survive as a healthy young woman.
I believe you are immediately health insured here in Germany as an exchange student. So, even in the unlikely chance that you caught the bug, you'd have a very low hospital bill compared to the USA.
Sure, I completely understand that you are feeling a bit unsure about your loved ones at home.
I admire your rational approach to this topic. Panic won't help.
Restricting yourself concerning large crowds is probably reasonable advice currently. So traveling among other passengers in a crowded airport and plane might not be the best idea.
But then again, the chances are still very low to catch it in any case.
So, whatever happens, hopefully you will still have a great time here.
For me it’s also not clear if I can go to America for an exchange year
I would recommend to stay, I am german and honestly it is not as bad as media makes it seems like...
It's good to to see that you decide in such an objective way. And while I do not want to joke about a serious topic and a stressful decision, I think you unintentionally included a pun: "...could lead to death or more severe symptoms..." in my opinion death so the most serious symptom of an illness. Sorry, of course I got what you were saying
As you know now what going on in stateside side. Best to stay here. If your dad work for German companies then your insurance is cover.
I'm personally not really concerned about catching the corona virus, but saying that I fear that my grandparents are going to catch it... stay safe and be careful all of you
Soo I managed to catch the virus. 22 yrs old. So far it's really just like a flu, though the staying at home for two weeks part really sucks. I just wanna go to the gym and grocery shopping 😭
Ich wünsche Ihnen von Herzen eine Gute Besserung!
I’m so sorry that you have to leave early :( just heard it this morning
I am right now in Canada as a German exchange student and I was thinking exactly the same things. Here in Canada everything happed very just over the last week which makes it a bit scary but I wanted to ask if you still have the choice to stay in Germany because I heard from other exchange students with the Bundestag Stipendium in the United States that they have to fly home next week so I just wanted to ask if the same will happen to you. Thank you for this great video 🥰🤗
Now I can understand better why my Sister wants to leave Ireland early to come back to Germany...thanks! We still don't know If she'll really Go but it's really difficult living abroad with such circumstances
Damn tricky situation, im studying in a different city than i was born in, but im happy to be at my birthplace with my family right now instead of in my tiny apartment in the city of my university. It wont make much difference in the chances of getting infected but it definitely gives me a better feeling. So I would say listen to your gut feeling regarding your decision as i think theres no optimal way anyways. Although it would be really sad if you left early of course. Happy hand washing! :D
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My daughter has to leave as well 😥
They have decided this already
The flight will be booked for the next week already
Wish you so much luck and many good things for your future
Stay so cute as you are
Many many Greets 😘
Our schools are closed for 5 weeks ✌🏼 greetings from Germany
That would be so sad if you leave Germany 🥺 I hope it won’t happen but we don’t know
🇩🇪 It's "funny" how after arriving here in Germany as an exchange student (I'm documenting my journey here too btw)... It's weird that after arriving here this video pops up... Hopefully the situation improves! We are somehow in the same situation now,... Well almost, I'm from Mexico & Idk how the authorities are handling this... Any question or whatever you can contact me Montana! I wish you the best!!
It's the youtube algorithm. It shows you what seems most suitable looking at the data collected about you.
My father is a doctor and it's very likely that he is going to have contact with an infected person sooner or later (inadvertent) and that he is going to be put into quarantine for 14 days.. and with him his family. I decided to be with my family anyways. I normally don't live with my parents and siblings (moved out a year ago) but I really want to be with them because it is a very scary time.
My uncle almost died because of influenza last year and it just reminds me of that again.. so I'm scared that something might happen to a member of my family.
My decision might not be very reasonable but maybe I'm not as brave as you are.
I hope that you have some wonderful last months in Germany anyways!
(And sorry for my English, I never wrote about this topic so I don't really now the vocabulary)
but you currently live near passau rogjt? there aren't any cases there yet. at least not on the side i live. in vilshofen there were 2 cases but there haven't been any more confirmed cases somewhere close to us and passau or did i miss anything?
Well I’m German and I was with my class in Rom(Italy ), so I’m home and not in school😘
Schöne ferien wünsch ich dir 😂
Im an exchange Student from germany in the US and im thinking about my options recently too 😅
So my classtrip to the UK, which is in the end of March, maybe gets cancelled because of the corona virus and it sucks. I’m already hyped for more than a year and now our plans get ruined.
Still you didn’t say how exactly is the situation over there
People in Germany are too chill about the virus ! Even gyms are full of people !! German government must put atleast basic restrictions
they just scheduled the beginning of the semester back 5 weeks and closed big events. and panic is just stupid.
a few weeks ago Trump said corona virus is a hoax made by the democrats, a few weeks later he said the number of infections in the states will soon be zero and now (a few weeks later) the numbers are exploding in the us as well and you are talking about Germany being too chill.
air hug how? Cases here have increased from 50 last weekend to 1500 now and government does nothing to prevent the spread !! We’re caring too much about economy than people
Wow I hope those that elected to head home can get out before the Europe-US travel ban goes into effect. Must be super stressful over there right now, hope everyone is coping ok.
There are some thoughts about that that every student has to ask themselves and both decisions are understandable.
Staying in germany you'd profit of a very modern healthcare system and since as a student you had to get health ensurance, your treatment wouldn't cost you much, if infected. The chance of an infection probably is as high here as it would be in the US. BUT: If infected, it might get complicated to travel back to your family for quite a while, meaning you'd spend your time alone abroard. Even if not infected there is the risk of borders to close down completly and airtravel between countries to stop, so you might get stuck in Germany for a while.
Also the thought of someone in your family getting infected and you being half a world away is something that might be hard to handle for some people. I can understand everyone who wants to be close to their family in this situation, although there would be nothing you could do, if infection stroke.
The US is doing very little testing. People get denied testing even with strong symptoms as long as they don't have any links to other infected people (in some states). Up until now, most people even were charged hundreds of dollars for their test, although that hopefully changes in the near future. But the number of unreported cases is most likely pretty high over there. Consider folks with low paying jobs barely making ends meet. They sure as hell won't wanna pay for getting tested, and can't afford taking a pay cut while staying at home stick either. Iirc only twelve states have laws that make sure you still get payed when you're sick at home.
Weigh this against your desire to be with your family during this time, which I can totally understand.
I think traveling is one of the worst options right now. In my opinion, as much people as possible should be staying away from public places were larger numbers of people come together. This goes especially for train stations, trains, airports, planes, etc.
I hope they won't force you to leave early. You are safe in Germany, our health system does work, in case you get hit by that virus. There is a possibillity, that hard times are waiting for it and for all of us, but still. And of course this will hit the USA just as well. So "hiding" back home in the US isn't really a thing, but I guess staying with your family whould be beneficial in other ways.
But this virus crisis might affect your options to get anything out of your program during the next months. I cross my fingers for you, that it won't!
Possibly beeing forced to stay away from school is actually a sad thing. It's a shame that no school ever prepared for such a situation. Taking class by using the internet is technically possible. This way everyone could still get something out of it during times of isolation from each other.
I would assume doing international travel would increase your chances of catching the virus right now and if you have already caught it without realizing you would be spreading it further by leaving right now. Germany is probably not the worst place in the world to catch the virus as people in the comments have pointed out and its probably best to just stick to the usual safety measures (wash hands, don't shake hands for greetings, keep a bit of distance to others etc.) and hope for the best.
Young people are often not affected at all by the virus. It only gets dangerous if you are 60+. So I wouldn't worry too much about it :)
Don‘t panic! And remember, even if you catch the virus, health care in Germany is way better than in the US.
One problem in the USA is not only health insurance. Another great problem is that Mike Pence is responsable for the coordination of the protection. As far as I know he once was governor of Indiana and during this period HIV infections increased in Indiana like no other time because of his decisions. An ignorant coordination is something that should be considered.
If you have love´d one´s its maybe better to not visit them. Isolation is the best protection against infection.
If things go bad, you could get medical support in germany at a much lower price. ( I assume)
sorry for my bad grammar.
I and my girlfriend are not at all afraid of the virus at all. I am a mathematician and she is a doctor (of medicine, of course), so I know the odds and she knows the danger. What we are afraid of is the spreading hysteria. And yes, that's basically what it is.
For your situation, I can only say this:
1. It is highly unlikely the you are going to catch a SARS-CoV-2 infection at all. I know that they are talking about 60-70% of all the people in germany are going to get an infection, but that's meant on a large scale. Even if the spreading would continue on the recent scale it would take months before you are in real danger statistically. (And no, it is not an exponential rate, it is a logistic one. We are only in such an early state that they seem like the same.)
2. Even if you catch an infection, it is very unlikely that you get badly ill by it. You are young and seem healthy so getting an infection isn't even the worst that could happen to you, because you'll be immune to the virus afterwards at least for a certain time.
3. Even if you, for some reason, would get seriously ill, our medical system would treat you at least as good as the american one. I don't know if you have an insurance back in the US, but you have one in germany. You'll automatically get the best possible treatment here. The only possibility to get a better treatment in the US would be to really have a lot of money or a very, very good insurance.
4. If you get an infection, it's maybe even better for your loved ones, especially your grandparents, if you are abroad and can't infect them as well. Being abroad for an exchange means that you are likely having a lot less social interaction then at home, even further reducing the likelyhood of being infected or infecting someone else.
5. What is the fuss all about anyway? Of course people are going to die, which is a bad thing. Of course it is dangerous and it is a good thing to try to contain the virus as long as possible to slow down the spreading, yes. But panic buying or many other reactions that can be seen recently are absolutely out of place. We will not run out of toilet paper, why should we? Surgical masks don't protect you from beeing infected, they only protect other of being infected by you, if you already are, and they do so only for a very limited time of about 20 minutes before they are trash. They are only for medical staff and for the sick. Same goes for germicides. As the name say (unfortunantaly it doesn't in german language) they are against germs. That's mostly bacteria. They only have a limited efectiveness against viruses. Still, some persons are hoarding them in litres while some clinics are running low? That's plainly stupid.
Two years ago, we had a flu epidemic in germany with around 25.000 deaths. That was really, really bad. Was there any panic? No, there wasn't. And there is absolutely no reason for this now.
Stay calm, stay rational, stay hygienic. And for you, Montana: Just stay where you are.
I would stay in Germany. They have one of the best hospital's worldwide. Even special hospital's are everywhere. In the US you would pay so much for less service.
And.. the chance to infect with Corona is much higher by going to the airport, sitting in a little plane for hours..
But I mean it's your thing
Dont matter where you go.It everywhere.
Stay safe. Stay here!
I can totally understand that people wanna be closer to their family now because they are scared. However I hope this doesn't sound rude, I think it's way smarter to stay in Germany from a financial standpoint because everything Corona (testing, treatment, ambulance drives) related it covered by the insurance and is free, while in the US you'd have to pay for everything yourself.
You're in a country with a working free health care, why not using it?
But again, I totally understand people going back out of fear of the virus or the closing borders
The US won’t allow people from Europe to go to the US from Friday on..
oh jesus this doesn’t include citizens as I understand it.
Just do what you think is the best for you. Discuss it with your parents and think about the options. Nobody in the comment section knows it better than you.
I am from here and honestly stay :) Just don't go to university and/or to large crowds
I think it may feel more safe to get the virus in a familiar environment at home in the US, but when I look at healthcare systems I think rationally it would be smarter to stay in Germany haha
The problem is that you can transmit the virus without having symptoms of the disease. That means someone is on a bus or train and doesn't know it, and you are using public transport. Also, school is potentially dangerous at the moment. My doctor had to close the practice for a day because of a confirmed case. And if it comes to the quarantine you'll be stuck in Germany. This is getting to be a very scary situation...
It will be probably better leaving Germany for many reasons other than Corona Virus! However, your fans are gonna miss you!
As a semifinalist for the CBYX program, do you think the corona virus will effect my chance of going to Germany?
Today someone on my school was diagnosed with the virus but it isnt going to be shut down
@@OrangeToGo nope gestern wurde der zweite diagnostiziert, sind keine verdächte
The situation is obviously much different for you since you‘re abroad and away from your family, but leaving those super important factors out, I think I’d feel much safer here than I would in the US at least right now. Of course being in the middle of Europe might bite us in the a.. eventually because shutting the country off is probably easier in the US, but right now I think the level of public information is much better and more honest here. I don‘t want to imagine living in a country where you can‘t trust your government on matters like this and unfortunately that‘s the impression I‘m getting from America right now.
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The only thing I definitely cannot (under)stand here in Germany are those disgusting people stealing disinfects from hospitals 😠 or those people who literally buy ALL the god damn loo paper 🧻, soap 🧼 and toothbrushes from the supermarkets 😒😠 like wtf honestly?! I’m freaking out!! Two weeks ago you couldn’t even buy any milk anymore in the supermarkets nearby because everything was GONE 😒 ..
2 weeks later. spoiler: it was a bad idea looking back :/