I made this to poke fun at how condescending Kaz sounds when you fail an FOB mission, since it always annoyed me considering how hard they can be. But instead everyone just talks about lore. Not even complaining though.
@@michaelkiske6917 For some reason the new ports are the censored version. So there's no Raidou costumes in the game, the design on Ryuji's shows aren't there, and the almighty icon is different.
I've achieved 100% completion rate + all of the Steam achievements 3 weeks ago. Now I've uninstalled both MGS GZ and MGS5, I might install MGS5 to play its online mod next year around July...
If this ever get a remake, this battle is going to be bone-chilling and very depressing to see especially to those who consider Venom Snake as their favourite
dude imagine it hides venoms face until his battle and once he turns around, he has the iconic shrapnel in his head. but even worse, the shrapnel is elongated because he is demon snake
@@andoy_you don't need to hide his face, simply having him wear a beret would do the job, then keep him at a distance so the facial scars become obscured. Have him somtimes hitting his hidden prostetic during the fight making people think his arm had a bullet lodged into it and hes compensating for the pain by hitting it when in reality the arm is malfunctioning and he's trying the force it to function again
@@isimyok960That's why Solid Snake was so taken aback when He saw Big Boss in Zanzibarland at the end Metal Gear 2:Solid Snake, not knowing that the "Big Boss" He killed at the conclusion of MG1 in Outer Heaven was Venom Snake and not Jack/the real Big Boss
That’s not true, everyone will remember who he is. He’s not a singular person anymore, he represents an idea. He’s the idea of Big Boss, that was the whole point of his character development. He’s Big Boss just as much as the REAL Big Boss is. He will be remembered because he himself is not an individual anymore.
@@vagabond8460 Exactly right, Big Boss was more than just a Man by the time of Venom Snake's death, He had been elevated to mythological status, after Operation Snake Eater He inherited The Boss's title and Her "role" of being a Hero that the American people could revere and look up to, but as time went on Big Boss began to resent being a puppet and established Outer Heaven and later Zanzibarland in order to take control of His own fate and not be bound to the script that The Patriots had wrote for Him, and since He refused to "play Hero" The Patriots turned Him into the Villain and replaced Him with Solid Snake
@@texasgent4694 Big Boss reminds me a lot of Captain America, in the way that his character wound up symbolizing heroism, not just the person behind the shield. If you had an ounce of integrity in you and were willing to pick up the shield and fight for others, you were just as much Captain America as the original Steve Rogers was; because you stood for the idea, not the man.
@@WolfTemplarSamuraiFalse. Solid Snake learned CQC from Big Boss before MG. However, the events of this game & MG2 lead Snake to have a distaste for it by MGS, so he doesn't utilize it again until MGS4, when his deteriorating condition requires maximum efficiency in combat, even if he doesn't like using the moves of his dad/brother/first Nemesis.
@@PunishedSnakeVsolid snake's cqc looked pretty damn good in mgs 4. And venom is not big boss, he's just a pretty good soldier who thinks he's big boss
I feel like venom's ideals that are shown in mgsv kinda align with solid's ideals. Venom is very clearly morally superior to big boss, despite him being a carbon copy. I assume it's from the medic's mind still somewhat being part of him, and given that he is a medic, he dreams of a world with no fighting, whereas big boss loves the taste of battle.
I always thought of Venom is the kind of man The Boss would have wanted Big Boss to become. He was the uncorrupted version of Big Boss, living a closer embodiment to what she envisioned. There's only room for one.
We need this game remade with full voice acting, and have David Hayter as a rookie Solid Snake and Kiefer Sutherland as Big Venom Boss Snake. Hell, the 2nd game remade would be amazing too.
Imagine the ending to the Phantom Pain was a remake of this mission from Venom's perspective. The whole point of the mission would be you have to loss to Solid Snake. You could get Solid Snake down to his final life bar but he would just retreat somewhere and heal. And if you want to top it off throw in a scene of Venom dying on the ground and Big Boss calls him. Venom tells him Solid Snake destroyed the Metal Gear and set the base to self destruct, and he is bleeding out dying. Big Boss tells him that it is ok because his mission is complete and the legacy of Big Boss will live on. Venom then sees Quiet and says so you've finally come to get me. Guess my mission really is over. They go in for a kiss as the screen turns white from the base exploding. Roll credits.
I kinda prefer the less chatty version, it makes him look more stern but also fits better when he is trying to be someone he doesn't know all too well apart from the legend, like he was trying to say what big boss would say but is unsure, it's also nice in that way as it shows he is different, he rather thinks instead Ofcourse I know that he was intended to talk more in game but I still like the "I talk when I have to" thing, it just feels right for his character
What sucks is that Venom is pretty much canonically forgotten about after the events of Metal Gear which I guess was his whole purpose all along. Most in the MGS universe don't even know his name, almost as if the memory has gone leaving behind only numbness to his existence. Fated to forever play the game of being Snake's shadow. To the world it was as if he had become invisible.
@@alparslan5071 long story short Back in mgs3 snake has to kill his mentor (the boss) and he gets her position and called as big boss and after that he lives the government and politics and forms up an (mans san frontier) army without border aka MSF with kazuhira miller. After that some years later this base MSF gets attacked my XOF members and during the escape in helicopter it crashes The helicopter only had Snake,kaz and a medic in it After 9 years the medic wakes up which thinking hes snake because he has been brainwashed to think like that and he forms new base after msf gets destroyed the new base is known as diamond dogs The truth is only known by real big boss aka naked snake,zero and ocelot So after we complete metal gear v it is shown to us that outer heaven is none other than diamond dogs So years later real big boss sends solid snake to kill venom snake Because big boss thought solid snake wont make it out alive but venom gets killed by snake. That's how he dies.
@@wreckerstein I’m still sad that venom dies. I’ve only played MG2 onwards so I never knew. also, he and solid were the only ones to recognize the boss’s will without even knowing her :(
I hope a remake of the game will come out and great satisfaction for Venom's fans. For example, a badass cutscene for Venom, and let the user choose who to play between these two guys. Like Yakuza.(Ryu ga Gotoku)
I'm just finished mgs5 and I am kind of shocked. Like how the heck kodsima managed to do that plot twist with venom snake and killing him in his like first game of the franchise which came out 1980-s like wtf, what's wrong with that story
venom’s still going to lose, but it would be cool if they do a cool ending cutscene and credits and stuff then hit you with “TIME PARADOX” after solid is killed
Its possible since they are doing Metal Gear Solid ∆, they started the remakes since MGS3 so something tells me they are going to do them in the proper order of the lore
Does anyone else think that maybe Venom was just tired? And he gave up? He's 63 here, and he's been living as someone else for the past 11 years. Maybe he didn't put up a fight. He just wanted to rest.
Metal Gear Solid has this nasty habit of trying to make someone a badass in a prequel, forgetting that they made them a dumbass in the sequels already Revolver Ocelot in MGSV: "Boss. Become the man we hope you can be. The leader we need. Go forth and leave your mark on this world." Revolver Ocelot in MGS1: "I LOVE RELOADING ON THE BATTLEFIELD!" *Gets hand sliced off* "MY HAND!"
That revolver quote kind of fits to his character still, especially after playing mgs3. When you get into the shootout across the canyon with him he will stop and reload and mention how exhilarating it is to reload with a revolver in the middle of battle. Lowkey revolver is kind of a dork throughout the entire series anyway. A very charismatic goober
I think your wrong bc in mgs4 the ending of the game big boss says that the corpse that Eva found was actually soldus and that venom snake died in Metal gear so actually big boss from mgsv tpp dies in the first metal gear game but the big boss you kill in metal gear isn’t actually big boss bc he is a body double so when you play mgsv tpp your not actually playing big boss your playing as his body double
@@HansaGBB not really you are doing exactly what big boss and venom snake did which is underestimate him lmaoo, Solid is literally an enhanced clone of the greatest soldier of the 20th century lmao he wipes Venom whos just a great soldier / medic.
If you think about it for a moment, you are actually fighting yourself. Venom Snake is supposed to be you while Solid Snake is the guy that you've stuck with over the years since the very first game
@@BigBoss549 assuming what Venom Snake was true. And the real Big Boss actually intended for Solid to report misinformation about Metal Gear then this fight wasn’t supposed to happen. Big Boss is implied to have expected one of two outcomes. 1. Solid doesn’t find the intel and brings a false report to the Patriots. Allowing for the survival of Outer Heaven and Metal Gear 2. If Solid ever got too far Venom would be able to handle him. As he knows exactly what both Solid and Venom are capable of. He thought Solid to be no match for Venom He never intended for things to happen as they did
@ivan leal you must consider that he’s kept tabs on both of them through Ocelot. He would know exactly what both are capable of. Especially Solid, who learned CQC from Big Boss. Venom and Big Boss are considered equals by everyone. To the point where Solid Snake (who’s fought and killed both) never knew the difference
If they are planning to remake mgs they better start remaking this first. this is the only missing link that people refused to play, including me, because of how old it is. please, i want to know more about the story, i dont wanna read it, i wanna play it. REMAKE THIS GAME.
Venom, at the age of 63, is as fast as 11 years ago and lost only because Solid was very lucky to find the right moment for a successful shot. Venom is the best Big Boss without even having his cells.
Hopefully the future let's you have a game to do a time paradox of venom winning or at least see a different ending even if it isn't Canon. Or even better he pulls off some fake death and we get a classic it's not over yet snake.
Metal gear is a complete story, Kojima and Konami fell out and Konami still owns the property. Sadly all we'll get from here on out is probably just the remakes and I doubt Konami without kojima would mess with Metal Gear canon. If they do it may be for the worse anyways 😢
Well i hope that somehow they bring him back,he's my favorite snake but still its just as fucking possible as mgs series being continued,that means its impossible
No the reason why he had to kill him was because venom snake tried to gain Supremacy over the world through nuclear weapons and other miscellaneous resources he was just trying to unite the world against the common threat ie himself
My headcanon lore for a remake of this game is that the real Big Boss and Venom have a falling-out between MGSV and MG1 because Venom goes kinda crazy from prototype nanomachine injections, and gets the world/Cipher/The Patriots suspicious of Outer Heaven. Operation Intrude N313 is the real BB sending Solid Snake to just assassinate Venom, without any knowledge of Metal Gear; that way BB can secretly take over Outer Heaven for himself and execute his plan without something going wrong. But Solid “goes too far” by discovering the existence of Metal Gear and BB’s eventual plan to launch nukes at the United States in order to destroy The Patriots. As a last “F you” to BB, Venom reassumes his identity when confronting Solid, ruining his reputation and forcing him to go into hiding in Zanzibar Land.
Solid was sent by the government and real Big Boss to destroy Metal Gear (Big Boss was playing both sides so he was setting Solid up for failure but failed) and when Solid did his job a bit too well and started the self destruction of Outer Heaven and was trying to escape, Venom Snake confronted him and died.
People underestimate just how perfect of a soldier Solid was. He was genetically enhanced to be THE best, to even surpass Big Boss, himself. That's why FOXDIE exists, in case the twins went rogue. He is perfect in every way, so when reaches Venom, who has aged considerably at this point, he's already got the upper hand from his VR training and combat being in his DNA.
Tactical Espionage Action METAL GEAR SOLID: *0UTER HEAVEN* Starring David Hayter as Solid Snake Richard Doyle as Big Boss Paul Eiding as Roy Campbell Kiefer Sutherland as Venom Snake/“Big Boss” *FACE YOUR DEMONS* Coming 1995
Naked Snake from MGS3, PW, and GZ becomes THE Big Boss. He's the one Solid Snake defeats in Metal Gear 2. And he's the one who appears at the end of MGS4. Venom Snake was a decoy who posed as Big Boss during TPP and Metal Gear 1.
@@vjack3209 no, because Metal gear V's ending happens BEFORE this battle, that means when Venom walks away during the ending fadeout, he's walking towards his battle with solid snake, you can ever hear the shooting in the background during that scene.
The villain Snake in mgs 2 is Solidus Snake, the 3rd Big Boss clone, unlike Liquid or Solid, Solidus is a perfect clone who had the exact genes of Big Boss, even though he is younger than Solid, his appearance is old because of accelerated aging
Can someone explain to me why they’re fighting each other and is venom snake a bad person? And what was the reason venom snake battling with solid snake.. i need an explanation please
In the sense of being an enemy of USA and such places then yeah. But its a complicated story, depends how much time you have to go through the whole game. But Solid Snake works for the US government and is modified to surpass even Big Boss, since he is a clone of Big Boss.
Obviously when this game was made, this character was 100% meant to be the same dude that you're talking to on the radio the whole time, but, on retrospect, it's really clunky that he introduces himself as Big Boss to Snake. Like, obviously Snake's going to know who he is. He has a personal relationship with Big Boss! They've known each other for months, possibly years. But a body double wouldn't necessarily know the of them are familiar with each other if the real Big Boss didn't happen to mention it.
not really, he wasnt supposed to die there, Big Boss just sent him cause he was told to, so he wont be suspicious, he infact thought that Solid Snake would either fail in reaching this far or even if he made it Venom could kill him
@@UnemployedStormtrooper I feel like we can comfortably say that individuals like The Fear and Sundowner are objectively evil and villianous almost every one of the terrifying bosses in MG, they either genuinely believe they're fighting for the greater good (Solidus, Strangelove, The Boss) or they're so traumatized and mentally tortured that they only know suffering and how to cause it (the B&B girls, Fortune, Psycho mantis)... sometimes it's both scenarios at the same time (Zero, Venom snake in mg1) But the fear is JUST a sadist sociopath with no backstory that likes to kill soldiers with slow poison and Sundowner literally states that he's a hedionist that only wants money and doesen't care about the suffering he causes
Robot_Gerbil Ök basically the guy I play in mgsv is a guy PRETENDING to be big boss, like if robin or nightwing took Batman’s suit and pretended to be Batman
Yes that's the guy you play as in mgsV, from what I heard this was going to be the ending to the game with him dying but with a new perspective and of course modernized..but it was cut from what I heard, take it with a grain of salt
@@fanaticalplel1003 he’s not pretending to big boss, he’s basically just another big boss as they’re both equally as skilled, and despite venom not actually being big boss, he has the mind of big boss
If they ever make a remake of this game, i hope they add a feature when you fight venom snake, game gives you a option to play as whether solid or venom snake and there will be different endings according to that. Venom Snake don't have to die after all we have been through with him.
Id love to see this boss fight remade with newer tech than it had originally, to see Solid and Venom share a cutscene would be really cool Until then we just have a fan made animation of Venom bleeding out and listening to "Heres to you" as he listens to the real big boss:(
![[SFM] Last Day in Outer Heaven](/img/n.gif)
I made this to poke fun at how condescending Kaz sounds when you fail an FOB mission, since it always annoyed me considering how hard they can be. But instead everyone just talks about lore. Not even complaining though.
It’s weird I stumbled upon this and you replied to your 4 year old video 8 days ago.. Venom is the friends we made along the way
@@jskillz7239 Because it's one of my few videos still getting comments all the time lol.
@@RobotGerbil do you play p5r on pc/xbox/switch (not in ps) ?
Btw p3 & p4 will come to "all platforms" next year
Nvm, just ignore my comment...
I made that... Bcuz i can't use raidou costume on p5r pc
@@michaelkiske6917 For some reason the new ports are the censored version. So there's no Raidou costumes in the game, the design on Ryuji's shows aren't there, and the almighty icon is different.
I DIDN’T PLAY A 30 HOUR CAMPAIGN FOR VENOM TO DIE LIKE THIS
😭true bruh
Mine is about to finish I made 82% completion and it took about 185 hours... All of the missions Ive completed are S Ranked with all tasks completed.
I've achieved 100% completion rate + all of the Steam achievements 3 weeks ago. Now I've uninstalled both MGS GZ and MGS5, I might install MGS5 to play its online mod next year around July...
well...yes you did :(
@@spinony359 I just finished the game at 65 hours though many not S Rank like you.
If this ever get a remake, this battle is going to be bone-chilling and very depressing to see especially to those who consider Venom Snake as their favourite
dude imagine it hides venoms face until his battle and once he turns around, he has the iconic shrapnel in his head. but even worse, the shrapnel is elongated because he is demon snake
@@andoy_you don't need to hide his face, simply having him wear a beret would do the job, then keep him at a distance so the facial scars become obscured. Have him somtimes hitting his hidden prostetic during the fight making people think his arm had a bullet lodged into it and hes compensating for the pain by hitting it when in reality the arm is malfunctioning and he's trying the force it to function again
@@oledidriksen1804I think that Venom would use the clothes that Miller uses in tpp
Maybe Snake Eater plays to mirror the Big Boss fight in Metal Gear Solid 3.
its gonna be like solid snake vs ocelot fight in mgs4 for me
The sad part is after all of the pain and suffering Venom Snake went through, no one remember who he was
Yeah, i'm sure Snake was still thinking he actually defeated real big boss in this time
@@isimyok960That's why Solid Snake was so taken aback when He saw Big Boss in Zanzibarland at the end Metal Gear 2:Solid Snake, not knowing that the "Big Boss" He killed at the conclusion of MG1 in Outer Heaven was Venom Snake and not Jack/the real Big Boss
That’s not true, everyone will remember who he is. He’s not a singular person anymore, he represents an idea. He’s the idea of Big Boss, that was the whole point of his character development. He’s Big Boss just as much as the REAL Big Boss is. He will be remembered because he himself is not an individual anymore.
@@vagabond8460 Exactly right, Big Boss was more than just a Man by the time of Venom Snake's death, He had been elevated to mythological status, after Operation Snake Eater He inherited The Boss's title and Her "role" of being a Hero that the American people could revere and look up to, but as time went on Big Boss began to resent being a puppet and established Outer Heaven and later Zanzibarland in order to take control of His own fate and not be bound to the script that The Patriots had wrote for Him, and since He refused to "play Hero" The Patriots turned Him into the Villain and replaced Him with Solid Snake
@@texasgent4694 Big Boss reminds me a lot of Captain America, in the way that his character wound up symbolizing heroism, not just the person behind the shield. If you had an ounce of integrity in you and were willing to pick up the shield and fight for others, you were just as much Captain America as the original Steve Rogers was; because you stood for the idea, not the man.
Crazy thing is even in that boss fight Venom snake still runs as fast as he does in the phantom pain
Yep.
Luckily for solid this wasn't a CQC battle as he doesn't even know it until 4 otherwise Venom would've been the new solid aswell
@@WolfTemplarSamuraiFalse. Solid Snake learned CQC from Big Boss before MG.
However, the events of this game & MG2 lead Snake to have a distaste for it by MGS, so he doesn't utilize it again until MGS4, when his deteriorating condition requires maximum efficiency in combat, even if he doesn't like using the moves of his dad/brother/first Nemesis.
@@TidePodsRFoodbut Im sure venom's CQC better than him
@@PunishedSnakeVsolid snake's cqc looked pretty damn good in mgs 4. And venom is not big boss, he's just a pretty good soldier who thinks he's big boss
Goodbye, Ahab. I will miss you.
Mayday Ahab! Going down!
Venom is fast as hell here like in MGS V
Despite him being 50 old.
@@Kira2255863
And to think, Solid was the genetically enhanced one lol, Venom still had some grease in his legs to run that fast
@@Kira22558 60 old in Metal Gear 1
Hes actualy 52 in mgsv, don't ask me how.. @@Kira22558
Ocelot: C'mon Quit Fooling around....Boss?....BOSS!!!
Snake, talk to me. Snake? Snaaaakeeeee...!
Yep, that’s how I reacted
Damn. I wish this scene was remade so we could see the actual details of venom snakes death.
Well you can see it, it's fan-made though. You can search it by typing: "Last days on Outer Heaven"
@@cap1841 I think he meant also seeing the Boss fight itself.
@Solid Blueberry Imagine kojima buying konami one day
Just to comete this incomplete franchise 😆
@@rahulverma8774 that'd be epic
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Is not the fight moment but is when venom snake is about to die
I feel like venom's ideals that are shown in mgsv kinda align with solid's ideals. Venom is very clearly morally superior to big boss, despite him being a carbon copy. I assume it's from the medic's mind still somewhat being part of him, and given that he is a medic, he dreams of a world with no fighting, whereas big boss loves the taste of battle.
I always thought of Venom is the kind of man The Boss would have wanted Big Boss to become. He was the uncorrupted version of Big Boss, living a closer embodiment to what she envisioned. There's only room for one.
Thats just based on the non canon nuke ending. If we judge BB by MG2 then we should judgs Venom by MG1
@@venomsn4kee You mean kidnap a scisntists daughter in order for him to make a nuke?
Venom has no personality, it's hard to compare him to others.
@@venomsn4keedid you really just forget mg1 lol
Sorry, Anab, you've done your mission, now it's time to rest, we'll be miss you
the mission never ends
You edited your comment but its still wrong lol
@@gandalfstormcrow7943 so what? No one cares, except you
@@constantine9114
Indeed. lol
@@gandalfstormcrow7943 lol I was thinking that
We need this game remade with full voice acting, and have David Hayter as a rookie Solid Snake and Kiefer Sutherland as Big Venom Boss Snake. Hell, the 2nd game remade would be amazing too.
Damn you can tell that venom got the prosthetic arm mobility upgrade, he's fucking zooming lol
Imagine the ending to the Phantom Pain was a remake of this mission from Venom's perspective. The whole point of the mission would be you have to loss to Solid Snake. You could get Solid Snake down to his final life bar but he would just retreat somewhere and heal. And if you want to top it off throw in a scene of Venom dying on the ground and Big Boss calls him. Venom tells him Solid Snake destroyed the Metal Gear and set the base to self destruct, and he is bleeding out dying. Big Boss tells him that it is ok because his mission is complete and the legacy of Big Boss will live on. Venom then sees Quiet and says so you've finally come to get me. Guess my mission really is over. They go in for a kiss as the screen turns white from the base exploding. Roll credits.
That comic and video are cannon in my head always, makes sense with the personality.
Which video?
What video!?
@@TheRedRaven_ "last day in outer heaven"
If you look up the Launch Trailer for MGS5 and go to 2.19. Then there is a scene that Kojima put in there that's not in the main game.
wow snake did an awesome job on fob the biggest fob raid actually
Fun fact, this Venom Snake in MG1 (1987) almost talks too much before a fight. Venom Snake in MGS V: TPP (2015) spoke very rarely.
I kinda prefer the less chatty version, it makes him look more stern but also fits better when he is trying to be someone he doesn't know all too well apart from the legend, like he was trying to say what big boss would say but is unsure, it's also nice in that way as it shows he is different, he rather thinks instead
Ofcourse I know that he was intended to talk more in game but I still like the "I talk when I have to" thing, it just feels right for his character
@@miragemain105he doesn't talk a lot because he has fucking brain damage from the piece of metal in his head
Maybe because he was traumatized in '84 but after learning the truth and accepting it helped him recover
What sucks is that Venom is pretty much canonically forgotten about after the events of Metal Gear which I guess was his whole purpose all along. Most in the MGS universe don't even know his name, almost as if the memory has gone leaving behind only numbness to his existence. Fated to forever play the game of being Snake's shadow. To the world it was as if he had become invisible.
"When no one heard a word, They say! Has the memories gone are you feeling number not a word! They say! But a voiceless crowd isn't backing down" 🗣️🔥
When the air turns red with a loaded hesitation
PLAYED AN GAME FOR 230 HOURS AND HAVE TO SEE VENOM SNAKE DIE IN RETRO MODE
WHY
Can you tell me the plot i mean why venom sneak was villian here
@@alparslan5071 long story short
Back in mgs3 snake has to kill his mentor (the boss) and he gets her position and called as big boss and after that he lives the government and politics and forms up an (mans san frontier) army without border aka MSF with kazuhira miller. After that some years later this base MSF gets attacked my XOF members and during the escape in helicopter it crashes
The helicopter only had Snake,kaz and a medic in it
After 9 years the medic wakes up which thinking hes snake because he has been brainwashed to think like that and he forms new base after msf gets destroyed the new base is known as diamond dogs
The truth is only known by real big boss aka naked snake,zero and ocelot
So after we complete metal gear v it is shown to us that outer heaven is none other than diamond dogs
So years later real big boss sends solid snake to kill venom snake
Because big boss thought solid snake wont make it out alive but venom gets killed by snake. That's how he dies.
@@wreckerstein yup and then big boss then goes into hiding after
@@BigBoss549 yep
@@wreckerstein I’m still sad that venom dies. I’ve only played MG2 onwards so I never knew. also, he and solid were the only ones to recognize the boss’s will without even knowing her :(
Imagine if the original final boss in TPP was Solid
His AI based on your patterns during the game, so you can’t win
Fun fact: Venom speaks as much in this clip as he does for 10% of MGSV
I hope a remake of the game will come out and great satisfaction for Venom's fans. For example, a badass cutscene for Venom, and let the user choose who to play between these two guys. Like Yakuza.(Ryu ga Gotoku)
I'm just finished mgs5 and I am kind of shocked. Like how the heck kodsima managed to do that plot twist with venom snake and killing him in his like first game of the franchise which came out 1980-s like wtf, what's wrong with that story
venom’s still going to lose, but it would be cool if they do a cool ending cutscene and credits and stuff then hit you with “TIME PARADOX” after solid is killed
Its possible since they are doing Metal Gear Solid ∆, they started the remakes since MGS3 so something tells me they are going to do them in the proper order of the lore
Solid snake dies [10000000000000000000000000000000 pm][heroism 9000000000000000000000000]
Wil be better if...
Solid Snake rescued by Fulton
@@egosdragonis6149 100000000000000000- heroism
Bro should've just equipped the Chicken Hat
😂😂😂😂
Venom's wearing the battle dress lmao
They played us like a damn fiddle
I bet I could take Snake if Venom was playable.
i bet i can take you if solid was playable
Venom might have survived if Quiet was still with him.
Not to mention DD
He would definitely have survived if we controlled him
He was burned to death in lore?
@@fajile5109naked got burned with WD40 in 1999
@fajile5109 if quiet was there she probably could've assisted him in the fight
It played exactly like some fob pvp, across one bridge one keeps firing rockets and the other keeps trying to snipe.
In my headcanon venom reunites with quiet and lives a peaceful ish life
our*
In my head canon he goes straight to hell.
our*
To me he kills solid snake easily and decapitates the shit out of that rookie overrated loser, and lives on as the true big boss he is.
thats my head canon to
Does anyone else think that maybe Venom was just tired? And he gave up? He's 63 here, and he's been living as someone else for the past 11 years. Maybe he didn't put up a fight. He just wanted to rest.
Ahab died for nothing
Big Boss : Taken out by a spray can+lighter. come back later just to immediately get a virus and die
Venom Snake : 3 rockets to the face
So.....Snake didn't realize his commanding officer suddenly has a devils horn and robotic arm?
V has fallen
Metal Gear Solid has this nasty habit of trying to make someone a badass in a prequel, forgetting that they made them a dumbass in the sequels already
Revolver Ocelot in MGSV: "Boss. Become the man we hope you can be. The leader we need. Go forth and leave your mark on this world."
Revolver Ocelot in MGS1: "I LOVE RELOADING ON THE BATTLEFIELD!" *Gets hand sliced off* "MY HAND!"
That revolver quote kind of fits to his character still, especially after playing mgs3. When you get into the shootout across the canyon with him he will stop and reload and mention how exhilarating it is to reload with a revolver in the middle of battle.
Lowkey revolver is kind of a dork throughout the entire series anyway. A very charismatic goober
@@brandonnelson94 He was acting in every single game except mgsv
@@bryanmunoz775yeah Ocelot is an awesome character in every game, but in MGS V he just sucks.
@@nowonmetube kinda funny that his real personality is the one people don't like
Snake are you okay snake snaaaaaaaaaakeeee
We all read the dialogue in the appropriate fashion, don't lie.
Venom Snake got way more talkative later in life. He didn’t say half that much during The Phantom Pain
God him saying “I won’t die for nothing” holy shit dude
After through all the pain, the phantom shows how loyal he is to the real big boss
the corpse of big boss in mgs 4 found by eva is venom snake
I think your wrong bc in mgs4 the ending of the game big boss says that the corpse that Eva found was actually soldus and that venom snake died in Metal gear so actually big boss from mgsv tpp dies in the first metal gear game but the big boss you kill in metal gear isn’t actually big boss bc he is a body double so when you play mgsv tpp your not actually playing big boss your playing as his body double
I wish it was (which it would be a nice twist) but sadly it wasn’t Venom’s body, it was solidus’.
It was the third perfect clone I remember 🤔
No thats solidus
I want so see this game remade not only for new fans to play it, but for old fans like me to cry a river on the final battle.
Heres your mgsv sequel bro
I love that the last game happens when the first game also happens like a loop
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO SNAKE!
I finished TPP yesterday and this like its ending is sad
I finished it last night, I feel you.
I love venom snake can't believe he ended up like this :/
I guess this is where my character died
Damn people really still on this! This games gonna be legendary, finally MGS will get the larger respect it deserves.
Sad that Big Boss never mentions Venom in mgs4.. He realy is left out the whole time.
Yeah right. I spent 200 hours on MGSV to get killed like this. F that, I'm gonna believe what I want to believe.
Solid was underestimated and expected to lose this mission he wasn’t even suppose to keep going but he did it. It’s what happened lmao accept it
@@reasonjefferey4644 nope u cappin'
@@HansaGBB not really you are doing exactly what big boss and venom snake did which is underestimate him lmaoo, Solid is literally an enhanced clone of the greatest soldier of the 20th century lmao he wipes Venom whos just a great soldier / medic.
Feel free to delude yourself all you want. That won't change anything. There's a reason why Solid Snake became a legend after the events of this game.
@@HansaGBBbruh, it's literally convenient truth like in mgs2
And the shadow was erased.
They made my dad look like a villain
He is the villain
@@Dana-61not necessarily, big boss is the villain, solid Raiden and venom were misguided
It feels so wrong that venoms death is in a top down 16bit game with chippy music in the background
If you think about it for a moment, you are actually fighting yourself. Venom Snake is supposed to be you while Solid Snake is the guy that you've stuck with over the years since the very first game
Kinda anticlimactic for a 30 hour campaign.
Imma be honest, his death makes 0 sense when you think about it, and I like to think Venom is still alive
same dude, he’s probably my favorite snake next to solid and solidus. I fucking hate big boss and his hypocrisy of using him
@@BigBoss549 assuming what Venom Snake was true. And the real Big Boss actually intended for Solid to report misinformation about Metal Gear then this fight wasn’t supposed to happen.
Big Boss is implied to have expected one of two outcomes.
1. Solid doesn’t find the intel and brings a false report to the Patriots. Allowing for the survival of Outer Heaven and Metal Gear
2. If Solid ever got too far Venom would be able to handle him. As he knows exactly what both Solid and Venom are capable of. He thought Solid to be no match for Venom
He never intended for things to happen as they did
i like him = his death makes no sense
@ivan leal you must consider that he’s kept tabs on both of them through Ocelot. He would know exactly what both are capable of. Especially Solid, who learned CQC from Big Boss. Venom and Big Boss are considered equals by everyone. To the point where Solid Snake (who’s fought and killed both) never knew the difference
Nah, you just can't accept that Solid is a better soldier
Both Final Fantasy: Strangers of Paradise and Metal Gear Solid V: Phantom Pain has both heroes who become the role of the Villain.
If they are planning to remake mgs they better start remaking this first. this is the only missing link that people refused to play, including me, because of how old it is. please, i want to know more about the story, i dont wanna read it, i wanna play it. REMAKE THIS GAME.
Why don’t you just play the original game and learn the controls?
@@donkeykongisytpooping3002 why the fvck would i play something like this? Stop recommending something so stupid. just stop.
@@donkeykongisytpooping3002 I recently completed it, but it's a pain, not gonna lie. the other games starting from MGS2 are much more playable
Curisoso que este snake y el de mgsv sean los unicos que corren adiferencia de los demas snakes
Venom spoke more here then the entirety of mgs V
Venom, at the age of 63, is as fast as 11 years ago and lost only because Solid was very lucky to find the right moment for a successful shot. Venom is the best Big Boss without even having his cells.
I’m not dying until a metal gear remake comes out and venom and solid snake fight
I’ll play it on my death bed if I have to
Wow, i. Geuss the mobility 3 upgrade realy is canon, Venom is shmoovin'!
lol Kaz.
0:52
Solid snake kills Venom, Liquid, Solidus and Bigboss himself?
I have always wanted a game where you legitimately lose in the end. Surprised no one has made such a game yet.
Ever heard about HALO: Reach (okay jun survives but you play as noble and they die)
Can't wait for the remake version of this
Venom is fast as hell hahaha
Hopefully the future let's you have a game to do a time paradox of venom winning or at least see a different ending even if it isn't Canon. Or even better he pulls off some fake death and we get a classic it's not over yet snake.
Metal gear is a complete story, Kojima and Konami fell out and Konami still owns the property. Sadly all we'll get from here on out is probably just the remakes and I doubt Konami without kojima would mess with Metal Gear canon. If they do it may be for the worse anyways 😢
"Hey stop kiddin around!"
Quit kidding around, Snake? SNAAAAAKE!!!!
Metal Gear™ should have had a remake!!!!
Wait, so the is Solid Snake from MGS1 fighting Venom Snake from MGSV?
sadly yes
@@kenzooo3692 this is sad
It's heartbreaking
It’s really sad to see but yeah, solid snake is fighting venom snake.
I realize how the Metal Gear Solid goes.
That's right don't blame yourself, blame me.
Well i hope that somehow they bring him back,he's my favorite snake but still its just as fucking possible as mgs series being continued,that means its impossible
Honestly the speech in the NES version is better. RIP Venom Snake
So solid snake/David killed the fake boss for some reason and what for was it vengeance
No the reason why he had to kill him was because venom snake tried to gain Supremacy over the world through nuclear weapons and other miscellaneous resources he was just trying to unite the world against the common threat ie himself
@@GhostieKai Venom Snake was the original Lelouch/Eren Jeager
My headcanon lore for a remake of this game is that the real Big Boss and Venom have a falling-out between MGSV and MG1 because Venom goes kinda crazy from prototype nanomachine injections, and gets the world/Cipher/The Patriots suspicious of Outer Heaven. Operation Intrude N313 is the real BB sending Solid Snake to just assassinate Venom, without any knowledge of Metal Gear; that way BB can secretly take over Outer Heaven for himself and execute his plan without something going wrong. But Solid “goes too far” by discovering the existence of Metal Gear and BB’s eventual plan to launch nukes at the United States in order to destroy The Patriots.
As a last “F you” to BB, Venom reassumes his identity when confronting Solid, ruining his reputation and forcing him to go into hiding in Zanzibar Land.
Solid was sent by the government and real Big Boss to destroy Metal Gear (Big Boss was playing both sides so he was setting Solid up for failure but failed) and when Solid did his job a bit too well and started the self destruction of Outer Heaven and was trying to escape, Venom Snake confronted him and died.
Man the graphics look so realistic
This is sad for me venom is my favorite he should of used his electric arm
Venom snake has better experience,skill,equipment than Solid Snake, how did Venom dies?
Yeah, after all of the things that he went through in Phantom Pain, I still don't want to believe that he is killed just like that lol
People underestimate just how perfect of a soldier Solid was. He was genetically enhanced to be THE best, to even surpass Big Boss, himself. That's why FOXDIE exists, in case the twins went rogue. He is perfect in every way, so when reaches Venom, who has aged considerably at this point, he's already got the upper hand from his VR training and combat being in his DNA.
@@CryingButterfly0508 solid snake was given the inferior genes
based on what do you say Venom is better?
big boss stronger
Fun fact: this venom snake didn’t have an arm prothesis
Tactical Espionage Action
METAL GEAR SOLID: *0UTER HEAVEN*
Starring
David Hayter as Solid Snake
Richard Doyle as Big Boss
Paul Eiding as Roy Campbell
Kiefer Sutherland as Venom Snake/“Big Boss”
*FACE YOUR DEMONS*
Coming 1995
Anybody notice that Venom Snake in 1995 plot of MG1 MSX version has male pattern baldness. Thats interesting interms of 80s Venom Snake to 1995 one!
Solid killed me.
So he did't reunited with Quiet and become solid enermy huh?
Pretty sure she fuggin dies because of the vocal parasite after the "Quiet exit" mission cuz she talks in the tape.
@@Venom-Snake1 That sad
I'm so confused, I get that THIS is Venom Snake, but who do you kill in Metal Gear 2??
Naked Snake from MGS3, PW, and GZ becomes THE Big Boss. He's the one Solid Snake defeats in Metal Gear 2. And he's the one who appears at the end of MGS4. Venom Snake was a decoy who posed as Big Boss during TPP and Metal Gear 1.
I thought it was Venom who died though in Metal Gear 2
@@vjack3209 no, because Metal gear V's ending happens BEFORE this battle, that means when Venom walks away during the ending fadeout, he's walking towards his battle with solid snake, you can ever hear the shooting in the background during that scene.
The villain Snake in mgs 2 is Solidus Snake, the 3rd Big Boss clone, unlike Liquid or Solid, Solidus is a perfect clone who had the exact genes of Big Boss, even though he is younger than Solid, his appearance is old because of accelerated aging
@@RobotGerbil You forgot Portable Ops
Greatness
Venom forgot to equip his rocket arm that day.
Can someone explain to me why they’re fighting each other and is venom snake a bad person? And what was the reason venom snake battling with solid snake.. i need an explanation please
@@TheLegendaryMercenaryHero Thank you so much for the explanation man god bless you
In the sense of being an enemy of USA and such places then yeah. But its a complicated story, depends how much time you have to go through the whole game. But Solid Snake works for the US government and is modified to surpass even Big Boss, since he is a clone of Big Boss.
Obviously when this game was made, this character was 100% meant to be the same dude that you're talking to on the radio the whole time, but, on retrospect, it's really clunky that he introduces himself as Big Boss to Snake. Like, obviously Snake's going to know who he is. He has a personal relationship with Big Boss! They've known each other for months, possibly years. But a body double wouldn't necessarily know the of them are familiar with each other if the real Big Boss didn't happen to mention it.
One possible retcon some people have thought of is that when Big Boss switches radio frequencies, it switches from the real one to Venom.
Phantom Pain before Operation N313
He played us like a damn fiddle!!!
So if the real boss dies in 2 then who was this guy supposed to be before 5
He is a paramedic in Ground Zero
Venom Snake.
I think you were just meant to assume he survived somehow.
Before MGSV was made, it was assumed that Big Boss either managed to revive himself and escape, or had help.
So we were playing the bad guy all along in MGSV?
Venom, the Big Boss double, was a villain?
Venom and Big Boss world view is pretty anti-America so...yeah
not really, he wasnt supposed to die there, Big Boss just sent him cause he was told to, so he wont be suspicious, he infact thought that Solid Snake would either fail in reaching this far or even if he made it Venom could kill him
When talking about metal gear the word "villain" is basically non existent because there is no real villain
none of them were villains or good guys. this is war
@@UnemployedStormtrooper I feel like we can comfortably say that individuals like The Fear and Sundowner are objectively evil and villianous
almost every one of the terrifying bosses in MG, they either genuinely believe they're fighting for the greater good (Solidus, Strangelove, The Boss) or they're so traumatized and mentally tortured that they only know suffering and how to cause it (the B&B girls, Fortune, Psycho mantis)... sometimes it's both scenarios at the same time (Zero, Venom snake in mg1)
But the fear is JUST a sadist sociopath with no backstory that likes to kill soldiers with slow poison and Sundowner literally states that he's a hedionist that only wants money and doesen't care about the suffering he causes
Ultimate middle finger to mgsv fans 😂
WE NEED A REMAKE!!
Wait so that’s the guy I play as in mgsv
Big Boss in MG1 is Venom Snake (MGSV) and Big Boss in MG2 is Naked Snake (MGS3, PW, GZ)
Robot_Gerbil Ök basically the guy I play in mgsv is a guy PRETENDING to be big boss, like if robin or nightwing took Batman’s suit and pretended to be Batman
Yes that's the guy you play as in mgsV, from what I heard this was going to be the ending to the game with him dying but with a new perspective and of course modernized..but it was cut from what I heard, take it with a grain of salt
@@fanaticalplel1003 he’s not pretending to big boss, he’s basically just another big boss as they’re both equally as skilled, and despite venom not actually being big boss, he has the mind of big boss
@@stranger6545 yes, he was tricked, they altered his mind and he essentially believed he was big boss
If they ever make a remake of this game, i hope they add a feature when you fight venom snake, game gives you a option to play as whether solid or venom snake and there will be different endings according to that. Venom Snake don't have to die after all we have been through with him.
Id love to see this boss fight remade with newer tech than it had originally, to see Solid and Venom share a cutscene would be really cool
Until then we just have a fan made animation of Venom bleeding out and listening to "Heres to you" as he listens to the real big boss:(