How FIFA lost their video game franchise

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  • Опубліковано 27 кві 2024
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    In 2023, the most popular sports video game franchise in the world had to change its name. FIFA, as it was known, became EA FC.
    What began simply as a negotiating position in a licensing dispute, turned into one of the costliest decisions in the history of football.
    James Montague explains, illustrated by Craig Silcock.
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  • @Rustylad12
    @Rustylad12 21 день тому +3358

    Moral of the video.
    EA : Greedy
    FIFA : Greedy and stupid.

    • @kenoobe23
      @kenoobe23 21 день тому +47

      moral of the video.
      ea have been producing this game only for fifa to make profit, then ea grow balls

    • @T.E.S.S.
      @T.E.S.S. 21 день тому +30

      @@davidmontgomery1442 "It's also pretty telling that EAFC is so closely associated with the FIFA license to this day that people still just call it FIFA"
      "to this day"? mate, it's been 7 months. there's been one release under the new name, after 30 YEARS of releases under the FIFA name. It's not "pretty telling" at all. Give your head a wobble.

    • @SkytorRushTV
      @SkytorRushTV 21 день тому

      sounds about right

    • @sdx3918
      @sdx3918 20 днів тому +13

      More accurately
      EA: Greedy and stupid
      FIFA: Greedy, stupid and stupid

    • @chrischarman8707
      @chrischarman8707 20 днів тому

      Greedy and stupid that’s infantino right there

  • @itsmalk5970
    @itsmalk5970 21 день тому +5582

    Seeing EA as the less greedy company is mind boggling. 😂

    • @paulnduati8355
      @paulnduati8355 21 день тому +45

      RIght?

    • @loockedfrenchtv7189
      @loockedfrenchtv7189 21 день тому +25

      they would be less greedy if they paid more for FIFA license.

    • @somethinglikethat2176
      @somethinglikethat2176 21 день тому +138

      ​@@loockedfrenchtv7189 why though? I hate to defend EA but fans don't care about the FIFA name and it's not their job to hand FIFA money for no good reason.
      Even overlooking FIFA's terrible corruption record and other general scummy behaviour, they are not owed cash for the sake of it.

    • @ReSunDestin
      @ReSunDestin 21 день тому +42

      They weren't less greedy, they just didn't want to pay the greed of another company

    • @Mpb17-Music-
      @Mpb17-Music- 21 день тому +4

      What you going on about ea are money grabbing from everyone you div

  • @sanchit404
    @sanchit404 21 день тому +4728

    It's very rare when EA is lesser of the two evils

    • @WokeUpToSomeBullshit.
      @WokeUpToSomeBullshit. 21 день тому +83

      Facts..only FIFA and UEFA can outshine EA on that department.

    • @TheWefikus
      @TheWefikus 21 день тому

      EA are evil while FIFA are just a bunch of old morons.

    • @ready4cheeseburger
      @ready4cheeseburger 21 день тому +33

      yeah only cases where there is some one greedier but dumber

    • @geordiedog1749
      @geordiedog1749 21 день тому +5

      Ha! Yes. Very true!

    • @welowee7610
      @welowee7610 21 день тому

      Nah they’re both evil.
      EA just happen to hold most of the resource and win the race for now

  • @Tomoyo_Sayomura
    @Tomoyo_Sayomura 21 день тому +1893

    when EA are the good guys in a story, this is truly a messed up situation we are in.

    • @somethinglikethat2176
      @somethinglikethat2176 21 день тому +37

      It says a lot for how bad FIFA are.

    • @prodigy84bg
      @prodigy84bg 21 день тому +22

      Well, EA are still charging a ridiculous amount of money for a below-par gameplay experience with cartoonish physics and player movement.

    • @Petrolosis
      @Petrolosis 21 день тому +16

      There are no good guys

    • @el-youtub3r402
      @el-youtub3r402 21 день тому

      FIFA is full off corrupt, greedy old seniles! Who just want to fill their pockets with money
      Bunch of a-holes

    • @tamagonbagel6569
      @tamagonbagel6569 21 день тому +1

      I'm not sure if it's a good guy situation so much as one big corporation calling another out on BS. FIFA really thought it was 25% of the value of the EA games.

  • @LordMarps
    @LordMarps 21 день тому +1227

    That FIFA thought they were going to out-greed EA is absolutely wild

    • @purwantiallan5089
      @purwantiallan5089 20 днів тому +14

      EA always is greedy ever since 2014.

    • @NazriB
      @NazriB 18 днів тому +1

      Lies again? Ramenten Rakuten Loyalty Bonus

    • @arsenal_84
      @arsenal_84 День тому

      Remember FIFA uncovered in Netflix ?

  • @xiaogu00fa
    @xiaogu00fa 21 день тому +212

    It's not only about greediness, FIFA overestimated the importance of its name.

    • @PaddyMac
      @PaddyMac 19 днів тому +6

      Probably a more accurate assessment of this 👍

    • @mahshshsrklingfa7031
      @mahshshsrklingfa7031 16 днів тому +1

      They literally asked for more money

    • @greekstreek370
      @greekstreek370 16 днів тому

      @@mahshshsrklingfa7031asking for more money works fine if you have something of value. The main point here is how laughably narcissistic FIFA leadership is to think that only a football game with their name on it can sell, and that their 4 letters were the most important part of the product. Truly out of touch with what the average person thinks of their brand.

    • @Gooner184
      @Gooner184 2 дні тому +1

      @@mahshshsrklingfa7031 Yeah, they overestimated their importance. They though they were entitle to more money and that EA would suffer without the FIFA name attached to the game. They thought wrong.

  • @arshavindrameh32
    @arshavindrameh32 21 день тому +1263

    Don’t understand the greediness of FIFA they always want more,more and even more

    • @nankam
      @nankam 21 день тому +92

      I just hope their greed doesn't ruin the world cup by making it every two years like they've been pushing to.

    • @cyberpokey
      @cyberpokey 21 день тому +58

      Yet somehow Fifa is classified as a “non profit” organization

    • @nothingbeatsawoodie
      @nothingbeatsawoodie 21 день тому +9

      @@cyberpokey that is a lie. fifa is not classified as a non profit organisation

    • @somethinglikethat2176
      @somethinglikethat2176 21 день тому +29

      ​@@cyberpokey it's simple. The people at the head of FIFA line their own pockets until there's no profit left.

    • @hilaireb795
      @hilaireb795 21 день тому

      and then even more than that. it is incredible tbh

  • @gustavodias4879
    @gustavodias4879 21 день тому +1413

    Meanwhile, Football Manager goes on silently as the best of them all.

    • @adventurerwannabe
      @adventurerwannabe 21 день тому +41

      Do you actually play in that game? Or are the games just simulated

    • @Bentley7Cruize
      @Bentley7Cruize 21 день тому +261

      ​@adventurerwannabe they are live simulations. It's the true experience of being a manager. You set your club and team up for success and you watch from the sidelines and make tactical adjustments that you hope your players listen to. Its better than fifa to me because I can't just control the players and make them play my way. I have to pick a team and tactics that will lead the game to be played in a way I want... and even then, we may go down and I will have to adjust my tactics or trust that my team will work their way into the game. You are a manager, not an omnipotent God like character that controls every player on the field lol

    • @finn56950
      @finn56950 21 день тому +313

      thats like comparing chess to gta. completely different games.

    • @adventurerwannabe
      @adventurerwannabe 21 день тому +37

      @@finn56950 yeah. Sounds cool but its something totally different

    • @otto_jk
      @otto_jk 21 день тому +65

      @@adventurerwannabethe gameplay is setting up the tactics and running the club, basically you play both as the manager and the director of football.
      If fifa is trying to simulate being Messi then FM is trying to simulate being Pep Guardiola.

  • @G-B420
    @G-B420 20 днів тому +24

    MAKE PES GREAT AGAIN

  • @saicharand7765
    @saicharand7765 21 день тому +397

    EA and FIFA deserve each other
    Football fans and gamers deserve far better

    • @uhobme2028
      @uhobme2028 21 день тому +11

      With the money the latters freely gives the formers, no they don't
      They all deserve each other

    • @XxDaTkIdFromBtOwNxX
      @XxDaTkIdFromBtOwNxX 21 день тому +3

      Facts, this why I stop buying FIFA back in 2018

    • @0liveboi
      @0liveboi 20 днів тому +5

      we all shouldve supported PES. now theyre dying and desperate to challenge EA by making their own Ultimate Team with eFootball... which i would say is the worst football game ever, even compared to FIFA...

    • @filipeventura2729
      @filipeventura2729 18 днів тому

      and 2k is just the same ahha

    • @jonahfalcon1970
      @jonahfalcon1970 15 днів тому +2

      PES was just as greedy lol Missed some of the disasters with that franchise, did we?
      Yeah, Konami never makes bad decisions. Remember, Pachinko > Metal Gear 😂😂😂😂

  • @BoostlessJoe
    @BoostlessJoe 21 день тому +62

    the best part is that if FIFA had asked for a 5 or 10% increase on their existing deal, EA would have probably accepted

  • @shesh32
    @shesh32 21 день тому +317

    3:25 "Creative, innovative and experimental". That's a fraudulent thing said by EA. It's like Jessi Lingard saying he's better than Messi and Ronaldo.

    • @eddouglas
      @eddouglas 21 день тому +32

      "more gambling modes for kids" is the laymans terms.

    • @eduardomartins92
      @eduardomartins92 21 день тому +1

      @@eddouglas💯

    • @sakarisalomaa2174
      @sakarisalomaa2174 21 день тому +4

      ...In the marketplace. Which they are by barely developing their game and getting kids hooked on gambling. Actually they even sabotage their own product to drive everyone in the gambling game mode and tilt it in the favor of those who pay up. That's being really inventive in marketplace.

    • @MrMajek94
      @MrMajek94 21 день тому

      But they are.

    • @ayaalnovgorodov8619
      @ayaalnovgorodov8619 21 день тому +3

      They are creative when its time to name store packs at least...

  • @10Zenil
    @10Zenil 21 день тому +477

    Football Manager is where the good stuff is at. FIFA turned to garbage ever since they added cards and made it into a gambling app rather than a fun football game it was before

    • @shakiMiki
      @shakiMiki 21 день тому +17

      Its not a video about the game. Its about a business dispute.

    • @liljs4189
      @liljs4189 21 день тому +16

      There’s been cards for more than a decade so you’re pretty far off

    • @313gwar
      @313gwar 21 день тому +16

      2013 was the last good fifa.

    • @FizzyGajing
      @FizzyGajing 21 день тому +7

      How did this even get 51 likes? You can buy cards since forever.

    • @bigbadslimee
      @bigbadslimee 21 день тому +28

      FM and EA FC are two completely different types of games, it's stilly to compare them

  • @buscadiamantes1232
    @buscadiamantes1232 21 день тому +172

    I disagree with the statement that says the difference between PES and FIFA came in 2008.
    Maybe from a statistical point of view, but PES was still strong up until 2014, with the terrible PES 2014, and the FOX Engine games killed the saga. The EFootball rebrand is just the coffin for the belated PES

    • @folarinalabi3250
      @folarinalabi3250 21 день тому +7

      Don’t think he’s saying that. PES was still strong, but FIFA got even stronger

    • @omgblastbeatslol
      @omgblastbeatslol 21 день тому +21

      I think he's saying that 2008 is when EA really ramped up their policy of stealing from PES.

    • @JYM60
      @JYM60 21 день тому +14

      ​@@omgblastbeatslolYes, Once the PS3/360 came out FIFA basically destroyed PES from then on.

    • @BiggestBirdonMars
      @BiggestBirdonMars 21 день тому +1

      ​@@JYM60yeah I stopped playing Pes when I started playing on the PS3

    • @drago939393
      @drago939393 21 день тому +13

      The point is that the 360/PS3 era was the beginning of the end. PES was blatantly superior in the PS2 era (PES 2-6) but the latter games were mediocre relatively speaking (PES 2008-10) while the games afterwards (PES 11-14) were terrible, especially when compared to FIFA which was exploding thanks to Ultimate Team. PES 15 was the start of a mini renaissance, PES 16 and onwards really was a new golden age in terms of gameplay - but alas, it was all a little too late, as the commercial war was long lost. The eFootball rebrand itself wasn't an issue, the half-assed F2P change in direction was...

  • @MauriceGucci
    @MauriceGucci 21 день тому +20

    Imagine having zero leverage, getting hundreds of millions essentially for free and ruining the deal because you want more free money.

  • @somethinglikethat2176
    @somethinglikethat2176 21 день тому +256

    I would have loved to be a fly on the wall as Gianni Infantino found out that games can't be made in a few months.
    Also the complete indifference of fans to the lack of a FIFA logo must sting a little too.

    • @GuyJames
      @GuyJames 21 день тому +37

      I think even more than indifference, a lot of fans actively dislike FIFA for their very obvious corruption and greed

    • @mattbyrne8202
      @mattbyrne8202 21 день тому +44

      What infantino and his cronies don’t realise is that not giving money to fifa is an incentive for fans to buy EA FC 😂

    • @shadmankabir5916
      @shadmankabir5916 21 день тому +4

      @@GuyJames such a shame that the irony of that statement is lost on pretty much every fan out there

    • @tbawws3975
      @tbawws3975 17 днів тому +1

      Especially if the rights were to go to a company like 2K where the game would then have to be built from the ground up😂😂😂

    • @BenBebbington
      @BenBebbington День тому

      If only there had been a long running football game where they played out what happens when there's a split between coders and the people who had the name and nothing else.
      If only.
      Anyone tried Championship Manager 2024? Struggling to track it down, mesen.

  • @q.veyane5388
    @q.veyane5388 21 день тому +82

    Infantino is a pure politician he just says things to please. Things that aren't practical at all, look at the nonsense he done with the world cup 42 teams honestly. The world cup is a free for all as for EA well....

    • @patanouketgersiflet9486
      @patanouketgersiflet9486 21 день тому +11

      Just when you tought Blatter was the worst, along came Infantino.

    • @MatheusFernandes-xf4zm
      @MatheusFernandes-xf4zm 20 днів тому +2

      It's not about being practicable, but profitable.

    • @clinton_x
      @clinton_x 17 днів тому

      I see nothing wrong with having 42 in the WC

    • @smartsquirrel1
      @smartsquirrel1 13 днів тому +1

      ​@@patanouketgersiflet9486 infantino, blatter, platini all corrupt to the core. Really wish Figo had won football would have been the focus.

    • @patanouketgersiflet9486
      @patanouketgersiflet9486 13 днів тому +1

      @@clinton_x Sure, why not 84? Let's have a competition with dozens upon dozens of countries that last monthS, plural.

  • @TheSunMoon
    @TheSunMoon 21 день тому +98

    EA vs FIFA is like the Wrestlemania main event to determine who's the biggest greedy bustard😂

    • @kenoobe23
      @kenoobe23 21 день тому +3

      nope. smackdown and raw is created by the same guy .

    • @BenBebbington
      @BenBebbington День тому

      🎵You think you're special... you do

  • @kwazilucas
    @kwazilucas 21 день тому +214

    20 billion dollars is bottomless money

    • @snoopyguy21
      @snoopyguy21 21 день тому +3

      Million. Unless I missed a part.

    • @kwazilucas
      @kwazilucas 21 день тому

      ​@@snoopyguy21go to 0:19

    • @S3condW1nd
      @S3condW1nd 21 день тому +7

      0:49

    • @spacespino
      @spacespino 21 день тому +10

      Do you have any idea how many Shrek 2 dvds I could buy with that kind of money?

    • @kwazilucas
      @kwazilucas 21 день тому

      @@spacespino huh? Why would do that

  • @Dionach
    @Dionach 21 день тому +44

    It's wild that FIFA (the organization) thought they had a strong position to bargain from. Most average people wouldn't know who they were without the video game named after them

    • @jesuspinto9805
      @jesuspinto9805 18 днів тому +2

      That's not true

    • @Dionach
      @Dionach 17 днів тому

      @@jesuspinto9805 I suspect that if you told people UEFA, CONCACAF and CONMEBOL were sexually transmitted infections, or rival factions in an obscure civil war, they wouldn't argue with you!

    • @ristoravela652
      @ristoravela652 14 днів тому +2

      LOL, what? Everyone who seriously follows football knows what FIFA is, and that's a lot more people than the people who play the game.

    • @thirtythreehz
      @thirtythreehz 13 днів тому

      False

  • @hasifimran3091
    @hasifimran3091 21 день тому +23

    FIFA and greed has been best friends for years, only now that it backfires them

  • @leonsolace7
    @leonsolace7 21 день тому +48

    All the people that hated on PES were just console owners. I played both growing up but PES was always the King (quite literally too). Only console players hated it due to licensing but if you had a PC, the PES community solved just about every issue with mods.

    • @snoopyguy21
      @snoopyguy21 21 день тому +11

      Where do you think most of the players were? Back in those days consoles were the easy, and less expensive way to get into games. So consoles had all the casuals. All the casuals cared for was that the people and teams looked like.

    • @hnaku8748
      @hnaku8748 21 день тому +4

      I still play PES 3. For me it's not even about the licensing. I just love the physics of it. Also have PES 21 with mod, but often prefer playing 3 instead without any.

    • @uhobme2028
      @uhobme2028 21 день тому +2

      Can't say i fully agree, but yeah, mainly stick with 21's mods these days

    • @Edgar...
      @Edgar... 21 день тому +5

      And that's part of the reason that PES could never and will never be able to compete. The majority of football gamers are on console. It doesn't not matter if PC football gamers can just mod the missing teams when console gamers who make up the largest amount of buyers can't.

    • @Imran7jr
      @Imran7jr 21 день тому +1

      PES is great I used to play before FIFA. But Pes lacks skill moves and the authenticity of fifa game was amazing with career mode with managing real clubs with real stadiums and all feels so great.

  • @HappyWaffle
    @HappyWaffle 21 день тому +21

    One keep point that was glossed over is that EA has a monopoly over the licensing. So even if FIFA were to release a new competing football game, it would still face all the issues that the PES series had.

    • @hamzaadib9927
      @hamzaadib9927 20 днів тому +1

      maybe fifa has a way to go around that obstacle

    • @TheHesseJames
      @TheHesseJames 19 днів тому +3

      Gamers want real player and club names. Any games having fantasy clup and player names will fail.

    • @GRNorman514
      @GRNorman514 19 днів тому +1

      @@hamzaadib9927 they do not.

    • @jonahfalcon1970
      @jonahfalcon1970 15 днів тому

      FIFA would also have to pay for advertising, distribution, and other costs EA was paying that had nothing to do with development.

    • @mexinerdentartaiment
      @mexinerdentartaiment 14 днів тому

      @@jonahfalcon1970 wouldn’t that be passed to it’s new publisher?

  • @NanobanaKinako
    @NanobanaKinako 21 день тому +91

    I rather play FIFA 14 than FC 24 and just download a mod to replace generic teams with licensed ones.

    • @Stelios78910
      @Stelios78910 21 день тому

      hi Goldie Lemmon

    • @sregginetahi999
      @sregginetahi999 21 день тому +2

      Why is that? Genuine question

    • @Greek316
      @Greek316 21 день тому +3

      NOT FIFA 14! I ended up snapping the disc because of all the offsides it was giving! Could not pass forward without it being offside!

    • @bnosagaz
      @bnosagaz 21 день тому

      @@sregginetahi999 The gameplay was really good in fifa 14, players have physics, animations are not broken. FC24 has the worst gameplay of the last 15 years of the fifa franchise.

    • @kenoobe23
      @kenoobe23 21 день тому +4

      or we could just ask konami to make pes great again , even if we havent had the rights of the names . as the gameplay every season is better than fifa lul

  • @FantasistaRossonero
    @FantasistaRossonero 21 день тому +12

    Pro Evo / winning eleven was the better game hands down. So good in the early days.

  • @prayaschatterjee4463
    @prayaschatterjee4463 21 день тому +94

    But the thing is PES(Now efootball 2024) has fallen off massively

    • @RahulSharma-wq4qy
      @RahulSharma-wq4qy 21 день тому +12

      Agreed. I stopped playing after they changed their name.

    • @farhi411
      @farhi411 21 день тому +41

      And still better than EAFC in terms of gameplay

    • @fartimusmaximus8710
      @fartimusmaximus8710 21 день тому +32

      ​@@farhi411 yeah , if you like playing a game that feels 2 console generations behind

    • @rmnkhr
      @rmnkhr 21 день тому +5

      you should try smokepatch's football life. basically pes' gameplay with licencing (modded of course)

    • @patrykchlipaa257
      @patrykchlipaa257 21 день тому +2

      Well I still hope for redemption, as the general concept for the gameplay, progress in FUT-like mode and ideas are far better than EA's. Big streamers are tired of FC24 already, so some may shift and show the other game to wider public. Compare emotions of NickRTFM between when he plays FC and eFootball. I think there lays massive potential, but Konami needs to full send into market, add more modes, listen to the community more and they will get it. Also there comes new football games in UFL and Goals, so finally maybe by collective effort we make EA actually invest in the game more and it will only profit whole community, coz right now for PS5-gen we didn't really have a fun football game.

  • @FilonisHat
    @FilonisHat 21 день тому +5

    FIFA Vs. EA. Whoever wins, we lose.

  • @Smilin_Chris
    @Smilin_Chris 21 день тому +14

    "We need a level of freedom to be truly creative, innovative, and experiment in the market place." - The guy who manages the company who's known for repackaging the same games year after year with the only real innovations being new ways to turn a game into a pay to play scenario.

    • @RusticRonnie
      @RusticRonnie 10 днів тому

      To be fair… those games are fifa and madden… which they don’t actually own madden being the NFL and Fifa being fifa.
      So technically, his statement just pushes the blame to the license holders.
      For example Need for speed is definitely a different game every time… not that the game is good but it is different

    • @Smilin_Chris
      @Smilin_Chris 10 днів тому

      @@RusticRonnie They split from Fifa and pushed out FC24, which is repackaged Fifa 23..
      So.. yea.

  • @BojackTrunks
    @BojackTrunks 21 день тому +78

    Tldr;
    Money.

    • @NIDELLANEUM
      @NIDELLANEUM 21 день тому +1

      Yeah but that's the answer to anything in football, sometimes adding a little more feels better

  • @Adyman182
    @Adyman182 21 день тому +149

    Would rather play FIFA 06 than any FIFA of the past 10 or so years....

    • @JimTheFly
      @JimTheFly 21 день тому +12

      As it's gone on, the game's just gotten more annoying. I have 19 and 22 here and I got so annoyed at 22 that I just went back and started up a new career in '19 and I've been SO much happier with that.

    • @RahulSharma-wq4qy
      @RahulSharma-wq4qy 21 день тому +6

      Fact. Fifa 08 my fav.

    • @user-zk4jd2lm4s
      @user-zk4jd2lm4s 21 день тому +16

      Fifa 14 and 17 are hall of fame candidates too

    • @bagfaceman1656
      @bagfaceman1656 21 день тому +12

      Personally, Pro Evolution Soccer 2016 is my go to football game.

    • @snoopyguy21
      @snoopyguy21 21 день тому +1

      I still play 7, 16 and 99. Most fun.

  • @007feck
    @007feck 19 днів тому +5

    This is what “calling your bluff” looks like at the highest stakes tables

  • @cameronadams1242
    @cameronadams1242 20 днів тому +6

    Asking for the partnership deal to jump from 150mil to 1 billion is beyond insane🤣🤣
    Fifa banked on the world cup yet they were still greedy enough to ask for 1billion over the next four years just to use their name💀

    • @llane122
      @llane122 19 днів тому +1

      1 billion over 4 years is 250mil per year, 100mil increase. But still a huge increase with no benefit to EA.

  • @geriatricvicenarian8208
    @geriatricvicenarian8208 21 день тому +6

    As long as they have licensing deals with the leagues and UEFA why would it matter to have FIFA in the name.

    • @GRNorman514
      @GRNorman514 19 днів тому +1

      It’s nice to see someone who actually understands this.

  • @poolie7
    @poolie7 21 день тому +8

    3:29 The only thing EA is creative and innovative about are Store packs in UT and the most expensive ones are close to $50 per ONE pack (which is basically the price of the base game on release in september)

    • @HerrCron
      @HerrCron 21 день тому

      I know dumb gamer takes are vibrant cottage industry, but surely you're only pretending that you missed that it was the prolonged approval process with the rights holder that was the problem, right?

    • @poolie7
      @poolie7 21 день тому

      @@HerrCron Nah I'm just talking about how EA is a dogshit company who treats their biggest and most loyal playerbase as an ATM machines

  • @dubsguy7986
    @dubsguy7986 20 днів тому +4

    The fact they can make even EA look good says a lot about FIFA...

  • @Omnipotentmonkey
    @Omnipotentmonkey 21 день тому +4

    2K getting into football can only be a good thing,
    Since the gap widened on PES, EA Sports have been resting on their laurels more and more, the quality control of the last few games in particular, including EAFC24 have been nothing short of abysmal, with replicable, often game-breaking bugs and broken features that any semi-competent playtesting team would have ironed out on the first run, somehow persisting across multiple releases, particularly in the game's now severely neglected career modes.
    I'd go as far as to describe the EA Sports development team as the ONLY team in an industry defined by poor labour conditions and crunch cycles to be practically stealing their wages, because there's no real man hours going into these games anymore.
    the game's still selling because there's no real alternative for that football gaming fix
    either 2K provide a more competent alternative, or EA are forced to actually exert some effort again to stave off the erosion of their monopoly.

  • @Combatwombat-sn7ng
    @Combatwombat-sn7ng 20 днів тому +3

    Fifa messed up big time. They thought they were contributing to the game's success far more than they actually were and got shown up massively

  • @ReizoM
    @ReizoM 20 днів тому +3

    As a novice game developer FIFA severely underestimated what it takes to make a video game

  • @TheCybervoyeur
    @TheCybervoyeur 11 днів тому

    Love the animation in this video - keep up the good work

  • @mickeyhynes
    @mickeyhynes 21 день тому +3

    That first FIFA on the Mega Drive was immense. Stone cold classic.

  • @gustavofring8765
    @gustavofring8765 21 день тому +55

    FIFA game sucks, charging huge sums of money for same game every year

    • @khylelewis
      @khylelewis 21 день тому +6

      Yeah they always rush out a new game year on year. If they spaced them out over 2-3 years the sales would take a hit but the experience would vastly improved. Maybe that's what the EA CEO meant by FIFA holding them back. Making them rush out titles, but then again, it's EA.

    • @snoopyguy21
      @snoopyguy21 21 день тому +5

      That's EAs doing.

    • @doctortech001
      @doctortech001 21 день тому

      But they have to give licensing money every year to clubs, so everyone is greedy..

    • @snoopyguy21
      @snoopyguy21 21 день тому

      @@doctortech001 and the clubs give that money to the players. The licensing fee from FIFA is separate from the money given to clubs and players.

    • @dunboy7874
      @dunboy7874 21 день тому +1

      Not really, only idiots pay full price for fifa, i brought a key for £17 6 weeks after release, its the most discounted game every year, havent paid more £20 for fifa in years, you just have to wait a month or two after release

  • @MinhLe-kt5zg
    @MinhLe-kt5zg 21 день тому +9

    How rare EA are actually the good guys for a change

  • @jasperumoren-zo1fi
    @jasperumoren-zo1fi 21 день тому +4

    The fact that fifa managed to let arguably their biggest cash cow go because theywhere unable to match EA's demands is almost humourus

  • @kevinarzola4781
    @kevinarzola4781 13 днів тому +2

    EA saying they need freedom to be creative and then releasing the same game since 2011 is hilarious lol

  • @mdrazzad
    @mdrazzad 21 день тому +7

    The real life incarnation of a self serving narcissist couple splitting.
    TLDR, EA was swimming in FIFA money and FIFA said gimme more.

  • @elmasmiller4371
    @elmasmiller4371 21 день тому +3

    i miss old pro evo...it was such a good game...cracked versions on a PS2 with modded team and playernames on a memory card...good times

    • @runi5413
      @runi5413 21 день тому +3

      I actually thought the lack of an official license was part of the PES charm back then. Playing the Champions Cup final between Rekordmeister and West London Blue, with player-names like Cristiano 'Ronarid, Roberto Larcos, and Ruud vom Mistelroum ... Good times indeed.

  • @PakluPapito
    @PakluPapito 21 день тому +18

    Would love to play a 2K football game, EA needs some competition to keep it honest, they are the winners of a 1 horse race each year.

    • @patanouketgersiflet9486
      @patanouketgersiflet9486 21 день тому +8

      2K sports franchises are just as bad as EA's, same causes ( ie endless greed and complete disregard for anything that isn't immediate profit ) leads to the same consequences

    • @wearyolive76
      @wearyolive76 16 днів тому

      ​@@patanouketgersiflet9486true but that's mostly due to no competition.. when nba had competition from fifa there was atleast some improvement now its just more sweat.
      So comp from 2k would atleast cause an improvement at some front.. 2k career modes are fun too so theres that

    • @patanouketgersiflet9486
      @patanouketgersiflet9486 16 днів тому

      @@wearyolive76 NBA? competition from FIFA? 2 different sports, how's that competition?

  • @Omanifootballenjoyer
    @Omanifootballenjoyer 20 днів тому +1

    4:49
    During the Asian cup in 2024, there was also an Asian cup eSport, it was played on efootball

  • @nmarcus7233
    @nmarcus7233 21 день тому +3

    Thanks for highlighting the point that PES forced FIFA to step its gameplay up to what we know now. Early FIFA’s gameplay was… 😅

  • @LucaGRizzi
    @LucaGRizzi 21 день тому +3

    Any story that ends with "and Fifa lost a big chunk of money" is a good story.

  • @berryquest7683
    @berryquest7683 17 днів тому

    @tifo im not sure if yall made a video on this yet, but ive notice a lot of teams struggling to find shirt sponsors. Definitely could do a vid on that

  • @calahoon22
    @calahoon22 21 день тому +4

    In terms of Fifas own competition to EAs fifa it screams of cooperate types who have no clue how to set up a team for a game of that magnitude and thought it would be a straight forward process

    • @somethinglikethat2176
      @somethinglikethat2176 21 день тому

      I can picture some poor person at FIFA having to slowly walk Gianni Infantino and the others through the process of game development.

  • @hnaku8748
    @hnaku8748 21 день тому +5

    I still mostly play PES 3.

  • @alve__7777
    @alve__7777 21 день тому +5

    All this money yet they can't afford a better server better stable gameplay smh

  • @MowizosCrib
    @MowizosCrib 20 днів тому +2

    Imagine being so greedy that you fumble a free bag 😂. What’s funny is that now EA can use that money to secure more individual leagues/teams licenses

  • @bigbadslimee
    @bigbadslimee 21 день тому +4

    2K taking over FIFA and launching alongside the 2026 world cup in the US would be prefect. They know how to make sports games and the only company that could compete with EA

    • @uhobme2028
      @uhobme2028 21 день тому

      Agree that '26 would be an opportunity but after their last few releases they would have to come out the gates very strong

  • @Wilanardodagenius
    @Wilanardodagenius 21 день тому +3

    Interesting analysis

  • @bens4602
    @bens4602 21 день тому +3

    It sounds like it was EA’s decision more than FIFA’s.

  • @LJSCHSR
    @LJSCHSR 18 днів тому

    Can you Show ist how to make suh good animations?
    Bc I May wann start smth like this too

  • @ROADRUNNR-wc5ld
    @ROADRUNNR-wc5ld 21 день тому +1

    FIFA didn't understand that the name FIFA isn't what was bringing people to the game. The game modes of Ultimate Team and Pro Clubs were always way bigger than the name on the cover

  • @Xx_Deadeye_xX
    @Xx_Deadeye_xX 21 день тому +6

    Hope FIFA comes back

  • @nitishsaxena1372
    @nitishsaxena1372 21 день тому +3

    PES was definitely better until 2020. A realistic nuanced gameplay is always better than an arcade game with all the licenses.

  • @d.optional3381
    @d.optional3381 21 день тому

    Pro Evo 3 was an absolute revelation when i picked it up as a child for the first time after years of playing fifa.

  • @seb2750
    @seb2750 21 день тому +3

    Now I am waiting for Madden and NBA to get pissy at EA. What do you think those games will be renamed as when it happens?

    • @aceking_offsuit
      @aceking_offsuit 21 день тому +6

      1. EA hasn't put out an NBA game since Live 19. 2K are the ones putting out NBA games now.
      2. Madden is a similar situation to FIFA in that the name isn't the main selling point; it's the license with the NFL. If the Madden estate asks for too much, I can easily see EA changing their name to NFL Ultimate Team 25 or whatever.

    • @somethinglikethat2176
      @somethinglikethat2176 21 день тому +3

      ​@@aceking_offsuit I'm pretty sure EA bought the rights to use his name and likeness in perpetuity for a lump sum about a decade ago.

  • @adamgrice937
    @adamgrice937 21 день тому +3

    Rare EA W

  • @brawlstarsall-stars5256
    @brawlstarsall-stars5256 19 днів тому +2

    Why was this thumbnail so satisfying😂😂

  • @106.
    @106. 20 днів тому +2

    EA having competition might make them refocus on gamplay

  • @Alec_Reaper
    @Alec_Reaper 21 день тому +11

    2K won't be able to compete with EA. Unless they make Fifa focused on gameplay and features, but not monitisation. 2K is just as bad if not worse than EA when it comes to this stuff, not to mention their NBA games are absolutely panned for being cash cows

    • @hnaku8748
      @hnaku8748 21 день тому +1

      It ruined wrestling games for me.

    • @Edgar...
      @Edgar... 21 день тому

      PES used to have better gameplay and physics than the old FIFAs did, but they still could never compete with EA's FIFA games because they couldn’t get the rights to players and clubs. It won't matter if 2K makes a superior game when EA holds the exclusive rights to many of the Top 5 football leagues.

  • @Real_SkyRipper
    @Real_SkyRipper 21 день тому +3

    this is so wrong to say EA Fifa won against PES because of realism lmao, that was not the reason, Konami just had inside issues and they didn't focus on PES, they even had that huge scandal with Kojima and even he left Konami, sad, PES was better and EA is evil.

  • @FatihYeliz-tc2nc
    @FatihYeliz-tc2nc 6 днів тому

    Loving these daily missions on 4 RAB. They really up the excitement for the IPL matches, plus the rewards are top-notch!

  • @rezarfar
    @rezarfar 21 день тому +1

    Well, it really didn't matter. The franchises best days were behind them long before this ever happened, especially in terms of the actual quality of the games.
    The best FIFA games were FIFA 13 and 14, in fact in the last 10 years since FIFA 14, only one other FIFA game cracks the top 10 and thats FIFA 17 in 8th place on the list.
    So in the last 10 years, only 1 FIFA game has actually managed to break the FIFA top 10 games list. Fairly certain that eventually, the relationship would have ended one way or another.

  • @TwoTees14
    @TwoTees14 21 день тому +3

    Wait, are EA Sports the good guys? I don't want to live in this world anymore

  • @ArshavinCisse
    @ArshavinCisse 21 день тому +11

    In all honesty, many of the things that FIFA does is to get financial gain. That should stop. Otherwise, people will watch other sports.

  • @crayzee1372
    @crayzee1372 21 день тому +1

    Fifa scored an own goal. The console game helped growth of Football and Fifa brand in the US and far East

  • @Reallysl1
    @Reallysl1 19 днів тому +1

    The success of the game is because of the previous years and growth not because EA FC 24 is a good product if they want to retain their audience thry have to fix so many issues with this game

  • @zidannemaulana1537
    @zidannemaulana1537 21 день тому +5

    Imagine 2K sign deal with FIFA be like:
    2K have many franchises
    *MotoGP 2K (If Milestone acquired by Take Two from Embracer)
    *FIFA 2K
    *NBA 2K
    *Top Spin 2K
    *WWE 2K
    *PGA Tour 2K
    *Hot Wheels Unleashed (published by 2K and developed by Milestone)
    *Monster Jam (published by 2K developed by Milestone)
    Imagine MotoGP vs F1 games which between Milestone vs Codemasters and 2K vs EA and also Take Two acquire Milestone will be the best acquisition ever made.

    • @zidannemaulana1537
      @zidannemaulana1537 21 день тому +1

      I can Imagine 2K vs EA be like
      FIFA 2K vs EA FC
      MotoGP 2K vs EA F1
      Even makes Milestone acquired by Take Two Interactive is absolute crazy after acquiring Gearbox Software which another company which become Embracer hit list from Take Two

  • @giodhuha6771
    @giodhuha6771 21 день тому +11

    Hope FIFA joins forces with Konami.

    • @nifemi_o
      @nifemi_o 21 день тому +4

      How will Konami manage to pay what FIFA was asking?

    • @krandlez
      @krandlez 21 день тому +2

      Nah, Konami better off not dealing with the grubs at fifa

    • @somethinglikethat2176
      @somethinglikethat2176 21 день тому

      Konami and FIFA would need a revenue or profit split deal, I imagine. Even them FIFA will still want too much money and control. FIFA's demands were greater than the value they brought to EA's series, I can't imagine they will lower them too much for the next developer.
      Either way the biggest problem will be the licensing of players, clubs and leagues. EA FC sales show people don't care about the FIFA name.

    • @GORILLA_RAMESH
      @GORILLA_RAMESH 21 день тому

      Konami is making some good money recently but it's not enough to buy a 150 million a year license 🤣. They not even makes more money than pubg and pubg died 3 years ago 😂.

    • @Edgar...
      @Edgar... 21 день тому

      PES used to have better gameplay and physics than the old FIFAs did, but they could never compete because they couldn’t get the rights to players and clubs. Now that EA has the exclusive rights to the Prem, LaLiga, Bundesliga, PSG, Juve and other smaller leagues.
      How are FIFA and Konami going to compete if they can't even get 3 of the top 5 leagues and many others in their game when the game console crowd isn't able to just mod them in and are the biggest buyers of football games?

  • @PanteraRossa
    @PanteraRossa 21 день тому +2

    Barcelona is trying to pull a similar stunt with Nike. Let's see how that blows up in their face too.

    • @semicolonenthusiast1354
      @semicolonenthusiast1354 21 день тому

      That though is less of a gamble--different branded shirt and shoes is a lot easier to make than a video game franchise.

    • @PanteraRossa
      @PanteraRossa 21 день тому

      @@semicolonenthusiast1354 Thinking you can outdo Nike and their retail network built over 5 decades overnight? And you're doing that with borrowed future earnings and billions in debt?? Good luck

  • @Mhit-nb4ng
    @Mhit-nb4ng 21 день тому

    I liked gameplay of pes and graphics of fifa hope in future we will able to see a game with both qualities

  • @ditik2795
    @ditik2795 21 день тому +3

    Isn't this the 2nd vid on the topic?

  • @fresh_jme
    @fresh_jme 21 день тому +4

    FC24 Wasn’t good imo, I’ll probably be playing FIFA 2K next year

  • @KonuralpUlku
    @KonuralpUlku 6 днів тому

    Betting on Kolkata today on 4 RAB, those points are just piling up! Planning to snag that new iPhone

  • @ILikedGooglePlus
    @ILikedGooglePlus 21 день тому +2

    Today, I feel like a Video Game Developer

  • @BatkoNashBandera774
    @BatkoNashBandera774 21 день тому +1

    When anyone associated with EA tell you they are trying to be "creative, innovative, experimental" - they are lying to your face on all counts.

  • @opsimathics
    @opsimathics 5 днів тому

    Winning Eleven was developed by Konami Tokyo in 94-95, whilst International Superstar Soccer had been developed years earlier by Konami Computer Entertainment Osaka. Every time WE is mentioned, there's a persistent myth that ISS somehow preceeded WE, when in fact they existed concurrently during the mid-90's.

  • @user-kf7tg1ro1d
    @user-kf7tg1ro1d 4 дні тому +1

    I think EA outsmarted FIFA because the deals are exclusive so if any other game actually wants to make a FIFA 24 they wouldn't have actual teams or players
    Also Its my opinion

  • @TayfunSerkan
    @TayfunSerkan 6 днів тому

    The merch store is lit this year. Copped a t-shirt with just my winnings from last week's IPL bets on IPL Rewards

  • @shain46
    @shain46 21 день тому +2

    Really sorry to hear that PES has fallen from a cliff. Pes 20 and 21 were really nice

  • @dillondavis-tirado7181
    @dillondavis-tirado7181 21 день тому +1

    You left out the fact the gameplay is utterly unplayable unless you’re a football fan

  • @Barry___
    @Barry___ 21 день тому +2

    There is currently a company backed by CR7 and KDB who are making a competitor called UFL (Ultimate Football League) and have already made a deal with FIFpro for licencing player images. If the game comes out (after 2 years of delays) and is actually good, FIFA might just run over there instead of bothering with 2K.

    • @zidannemaulana1537
      @zidannemaulana1537 19 днів тому

      So UFL in Asia be like:
      Published by Capcom and compete against eFootball
      Imagine in North American release be like:
      UFL name changed into ULS which developee by Strikerz Inc. published by Square Enix

    • @GRNorman514
      @GRNorman514 19 днів тому

      UFL don’t actually have many or any licenses though. It’s just a FUT clone.

  • @beyondmadmax352
    @beyondmadmax352 21 день тому

    1:43 did he say the game had been “yapping” 😂😂

  • @cheeselol268
    @cheeselol268 17 днів тому

    Could probably also mean the end of the FIFA world cup game serie. From 1998 fifa world cup video game to 2022 fifa world cup video game

  • @System_Sega
    @System_Sega 20 днів тому

    1:31 Not sure why your showing a SNES controller for a game that started out on the Mega Drive.

  • @prysrek8858
    @prysrek8858 21 день тому +2

    I swear, only FIFA would be able to make us be sympathetic towards EA

  • @Strangegloves
    @Strangegloves 21 день тому +1

    It's hard to argue with Wilson, I didn't buy EAFC 24 straight away as I figured it wouldn't have the licensed teams anymore.....but inactuallity its the same as any other fifa title that came before.......just 4 letters on the box !!! Clearly Fifa dnt bring anything to the game....

  • @philipbeattie4101
    @philipbeattie4101 6 днів тому

    I was always a PES fan back in the day. The licensing is always good with EA, but if 2K get involved I think I’ll definitely be checking it out.
    the NBA games are great.

  • @dingypt
    @dingypt 17 днів тому

    I played FIFA 99, 01, 03, 04, 05, 06, 07, 08, 12, 14, 15, 17, 18, 19 and 20... I honestly see no evolution since FIFA 15 or 16 and by FIFA20 i just decided I will not play another EA Football Game unless they ACTUALLY change something other than graphics or more lootboxing gameplay with more ingame purchases.
    I love the football genre and Football Manager completely delivers for me, but sometimes i dont want to play as a manager. And unfortunately it seems there is no good game to play "as a player"

  • @0greeny0001
    @0greeny0001 21 день тому +1

    The hubris of FIFA to think that they can create a game from nothing in a year is astonishing.

  • @TrueRomanceIRL
    @TrueRomanceIRL 19 днів тому

    Always looking for ways to get the players to dispense with more money. Too much focus on FUT and not enough on the actual gameplay or indeed other modes

  • @azazel407
    @azazel407 21 день тому +1

    I think a huge part of this was pes dropped master league to adopt a fully online model which frankly was disastrous. There has really been no alternative to EA FC which will have contributed to its growth in sales. At times over the last 15 years I am of the opinion PES was the more realistic game for large parts out with licences. FIFA far more better and realistic game for a few years now