Elle est devenue pire qu'elle oa meilleure soultana ossman ey hurrum elle au moin protèger ses enfant et elle etait très forte, elle a combatu ibrahim, mahederan, chahazad, radija, moustafa... Tandis que kosem et aussi forte mais a gagné avec les erreurs de la fille a soultana saffye. Donc hurrum et la plus forte
I think the saddest part about this show, besides all the death that happens, is that being in the palace turned Kosem into the very kind of person she was fighting so hard not to become.
@@asfandsattar7629 Because he was insane. He's actually known in the history books as "Ibrahim the Mad" and he nearly killed his own son. Mental health wasn't something that was treated back then so the only solution Kosem saw was to execute him.
In the end, she became every single person she'd destroyed in the past. She became too powerful like Safiye, trying to remove grandson for another grandson, then trapped in a scandal with a subject like Handan. She also caused her son Kasim to be executed like Halime (kidnapping Mustafa), then she turned mad like Dilruba, no conscience or whatsoever.
@@mottlol489 Kosem only killed Ibrahim in real history and she had valid reason for it. You have no idea how cruel Ibrahim was. They showed none of his cruelty here.
I thought that being killed by your father was bad enough But being killed by your mother is worse because she birth you into this world, she gave you life and now she takes it What a messed up time this was
Dont be fool, these kinds of things still happens even in today's world Brothers murder each other for wealth and power Even their parents dont spare them alive for their madness The difference is that they aren't sultans Remember the first murder happened between Abel and Kane (habil and qabil) who were brothers
Safiye sultana gave a warning to kosem .tht ones she tastes the sweetness of power she will change automatically of which kosem never believed until herself became worse
If atike had HELPED her brother rule PROPERLY instead of helping him defie their mother at every turn knowing how well that went for her brothers this mightve been prevented by nooooo.
I read a book about it and a quote from a historian about the Ottoman Empire. He said that born as a prince in the Ottoman Empire is like waiting for your own death. When one of your brother have the throne, the others would count their days to their death. Such unfortunate to be born as a prince at that time 😭
Once MAHIDEVRAN SULTANA SAID "Everyone will remember how a Father (sultan suleiman) killed his own child" and i Literally felt that....and Now Mother is doing this................
@@yasharahmed7601she isnt supposed to interfere with politics , she is a cause of the downfall, she didnt receive any education how to rule to begin with
Earlier I thought that what a magnificent life these sultans n sultanas lived. But after watching this serial,, i pity on them. We common people are much happier than these
The people in these comments are comparing Hurrem and Kosem when their situations don’t even add up. Let’s remember that Hurrem was never Valide Sultan and Kosem was. Kosem did what she could to keep her children and herself alive just like Hurrem. Hurrem didn’t just kill to keep her kids safe she also killed for power. Kosem was a ruler and a woman and at the time people hated those two words put together. Plus Ibrahim was mentally ill which is why he was overthrown. Nobody knows if Kosem consented to his execution but it was done either way. And she was ready to retire after his death but was forced to stay by statesmen who would later on kill her after they realized she wasn’t in her right mind. Do your research before making your opinions and don’t believe everything in the shows.
Kösem was the most evil woman in the Ottoman Empire. She wanted to kill her own grandson Mehmed IV. Kösem is definitely a much more cruel woman than Hürrem.
@@GameOver-xp6mg knowledge is one thing but she was forced to give consent. He was killing people anyways. It’s better to sacrifice one for the sake of majority. She had to think as a ruler not a mother.
@@mottlol489 mustafa is considered the worst sultan of ottoman history, they portrayed a child actor and somebody is blaimg sultan ahmed the great for his situation lol, sultan ahmed saved him and sent him to bayezit, where he grew up as a prince but it was his own problems, mother sister and daud pasha who caused mental problems
Kosem was really cruel and killed her own children, I dont know why people hate Hurrem, when she killed FOR her children, u can actually see the difference between these two women.
The big difference between hurrem and kosem Hurrem: willing to bring down her enemies for the safety of her and her children kosem: willing to overthrow her children for the sake of power and the throne
People hate Hurrem because she made fun of the pain of others and since she came to the palace she was never good, she burned the face of her only friend and blamed a child for starting a fire. For me, hurrem did worse things than kosem, but due to the fact that she did not attack her family, she is considered a better person 😂🙄
@@CarmenSanchez1301 she never made fun of others pain , it was just vengeance for being treated poorly, honestly all the palace people got their Karma back, Valide , Hatice and Mahidevran were just evil. Kosem was already Valide sultan and in power yet she killed her OWN sons, for me she is the most evil character in the series, I love Turhan much more.
@@prettyinpink9698 She made fun of Mahidevran pain, that's why many hated her and also because she was very arrogant, which kosem never was like that or at least when she got to the palace. Sultan Suleiman ordered his own son to be executed since he acted as sultan, in the case of kosem she acted as sultan because she was regent, ibrahim destroyed the empire but in the series they put him as innocent. Most of kosem's children are executed by her brother and Murad dies of cirrhosis. Why do most say that she killed her children?
@@CarmenSanchez1301 Most likely because they watched this show and didn't bother to actually read what happened in real life. One time someone commented on one of lady Mary's music edits saying that she shouldn't have glorified Kosem because of the things Kosem did in the show, and when she brought up the case with Kosem trying to kill Murad many people told her that many things in the show were just fiction. She even believed Faray existed.
Everything happened just like Sultan Ahmed feared. Kosem lost all her innocence in this palace. What remained was a greedy, unreasonable, power-hungry, hypocrite monster - someone who Sultan Ahmed would've never loved.
Ibrahim wasn't ruling properly and was doing so much bad and left the state to bad people who influenced him badly. He sent his mother away and didn't hold the state properly.
All these uneducated people in the comments. 😂 Kösem Sultan was given all the power she ruled in her own right for the good of the dynasty her son Murad died of an illness, sultan ibrahims execution wasn't consented to by Kösem, she never killed her children she tried to rule the dynasty fairly so much so that her subjects called her "Mother of all Muslims".
If you read the history, Sultan Ibrahim was demented and went overboard. He took so many lives due to his mental statehood and his raging anger which worsened over the years. If I am not mistaken, he is said to have drowned his 280 concubines in the Bosphorus. And he was obsessed with women, particularly fat women
Correct and historically after he was overthrown there was an argument between Kosem and the statesman because she wanted to go to the Old palace and take Ibrahim with her. But many statesman feared for another rebellion will rise to place Ibrahim back on the throne and wanted to execute him.
Riya Maya Sari what this fake TV serie doesn't say Kosem Sultana was a Jewish Greek 🙄 who had sweared to kill her own children for the cause of destroying Islam and Muslims ottoman empire from inside so they can create Israel. READ QURAN about what Allah say about the jews heart that harder than a rock and a rock can crack with water. Surat Baqara .
In reality she didn't kill any of his child its shown different story in drama serial actually turhan sultan with sultan mehmet made trap for sultan Ibrahim...
There was this age where Ottoman was only raised to die. Then it fell upon the survivors like Abdul Hamid II, to prevent the fall of the state, but alas the treachery was too deep.
@@areebazeeshan1538 people didn’t hate her for killing murad because 1 nothing proves that she did it and 2 people were happy when he died because he was so cruel and killed people for doing anything. People hated kosem for killing Ibrahim 1 though because even if he was an inappropriate sultan and unstable….he is still the victim of his brother’s cruelty and his mother’s selfishness.
Kosem had to kill her son because he was mad and killed many of his subjects. If she had not killed him, the whole family would have been put to the sword. He broke the law.
haha yesss thats why she was so sad when mehirmah was born 😂😂 and also married her off to man she doesnt love for her brothers 🤣🤣 also when mehmet was born the first thing she said was that she will become a queen the difference is kosem was corrupted but hureem was born corrupt
The era they both lived in was completely different. The state's political situation was really unstable when Kösem was ruling, Hürrem didn't have to experience that. So you can't compare their behaviors & actions.
You can never compare Hurrem with Kosem...Hurrem had been in Suleiman's shade till her death but Kosem had no one but herself Hurrem never witnessed her children's battle like Kosem. Kosem experienced several battles of thrones where Hurrem herself expired be4 seeing the main throne battle between her sons. Even Mihirmah had to choose one of her brothers. If Hurrem had lived till that time, then it would be fun to see whom got support of hers.. Besides, Hurrem managed to kill Shehzadi Mustafa using Suleiman but Kosem managed Sultan Mustafa to be dethroned twice with her own talent. She had to create her power using her talent to win several minister's support to dethrone Sultan Mustafa not like Hurrem who just provoked only one person
@@ahmataliff7092 Well that is great and all but Kösrm had heirs to worry about along with other traitors. Unlike Elizabeth I Queen of England who ruled absolutely by destroying her enemies in the beginning and had only one major challenge to her throne: her cousin Mary Stuart Queen of Scots.
Who is the actor in Ibrahim's role? He did a commendable job depicting an insane Sultan. I feel bad for both Ibrahim and Mustafa I ( Sultan Ahmed's half brother) both of whom were only pawns to their power hungry mothers.
24:37 what a Royal and majestic move.... The princess is looking cute with her curls 😍💙❤️ Atika's role was very positive, sincere, loyal and honest. She had a strong impact. Well done actress ✌️
Kosem was alone. She lost her husband at young age. She didnt know what to do right yet she attempted to protect dynasty. She's fair of doing everything and hearing many aspirations from her folk.
F$ol. The great ruler is hurrem. ♥♥♥hurrem die peaceful and yet powerful. ￦￦￦kosem die with painful and yet regretful. A great ruler always die with peaceful while the f$$l ruler always gain power and yet die like a m $d dog.
@@user-fe1le2yl3x great ruler always choose their own dead and build their tomb first before k$ll someone. F$$l ruler always love to k$ll and die like a mad dog.. That everyone hate.
Agreed Hurrem is the best, not only because she protected her children but also because she suffered more and she destroyed her enemies and died peacefully in the arms of the man she loved more than anything, unlike Kosem who lost the battle with Turhan and died lonely with no one by her side, she was killed like a dog. I admire Hurrem more than any other Sultana of the Ottoman Empire. Her character is really unforgettable !
You only say that because you don't know what Hurrem would do if Suleyman would have died before her.She was the worst of them all.Ah met entrusted Kosem the future of the empire.She didnt want to kill her children.Her expressions prove it.
@@bosbanon3452 the executioners wanted that and knew that she was behind it (sighing with his seal) because Ibrahim was crazy (mad) and his son was young true but they thought that mehmets mother would rule which she did
That's not accurate. Kosem herself said to kill Ibrahim because if he gets out of the cage, he will not leave her or the statesman alive. Her famous words ''If there are two Caliphs, kill one of them'' also shows she gave consent to Ibrahim's execution.
@@eurech It's not true. This words said Şeih-ul-Islam, not Kosem. She only said that if Ibrahim doesn't be enthroned, nobody will remain in society. She enthroned him but never gave the order of execution
All these Sultanas seem very cruel to our eyes,but in the empire they were right rulers.All of them were forced to go against their loved ones,not only Kosem.And since you all speaking about Hurrem being the best,she would be the worst of all if she was alive when her son ascended the throne.She would destroy the Empire,like Turhan did.
I don't know if Turhan really ended the empire. In fact, her respect for her son's independence ended the sultanate of women. For all intensive purposes, she kind of brought back normalcy and a competent sultanate.
according to series hurrem wouldnt have lived to see that she would've killed herself if suleiman died. and irl its been proved that they did love each other immensely , thats why she stopped having kids after cihangir, because the sultan didn't want her to die from childbirth which was pretty common back then
@@rihana_1604 She died of a disease though. We all know she would'nt have killed herself if Suleiman (If Allah wanted) died first. Also, it is a dumb assumption that she actually would kill herself if he died 1st. She would have 1st continued to live for her children's sake but the turn evil due to being all alone in the midst of so much evil in the Harem just like kosem did. If Ahmed was alive & kosem died before him then Kosem would have never ever turn so evil. AGAIN, I AM TALKING ABOUT THE series because I do not know what happened years ago since I wasn't there.
*If she didn't remember Ibrahim telling her "let me die mom, I don't want this life", she wouldn't execute him. I'm sure, she suffered a lot, and nobody protected her, she wanted to forgive people, Murad did the opposite. Only Ahmed, Gevhernan understood her. They make her bad.*
She was the one who could've had step back and let sultan murad rule but she wanted to take decisions thinking sultan murad is stupid and can't take decisions Nobody could've revolted in sultan murad region
@@EkaterinaIHeris Infidels like you have existed in every period. And we all know what their end was! These light breezes like you will never make the candle of islam be dimmer.
Words fail to describe. I've heard from my mother that Life is not a drama. But I think Life is more dramatic than a drama. By the way 17:45 this music reminds me the death of prince Mustafa.( Son of Suleiman l)
The reson why Kosem did not kill Mustafa was that he was not a serius threth or danger to otteman and it’s pepol while Ibrahim was a serius danger to that,all in all Kosem was not evil but someone burdend with difficolt task of keeping the otteman and it’s pepol in a good state and I think Kosem if sve knew what Turhan did afterwords to stabelise things would been proud
For those who blame that Kosem Sultan was power hungry, first of all Murad IV became very brutal as it is listed in history so killing him was all she could do because if she replaced him or locked him up, he will come back and order her deaht sentence and actually the reason to killing Ibrahim were two:\ Ibrahim nearly gave away all the gold. Ibrahim was indirectly cause of ottoman decline And following that point he could have caused the end of ottoman empire right there So she took the necassary measures and took such a big step and unlike Sulieiman killing Mustafa because he thought he was tyrant, Kosem killed Ibrahim due to his actions.
Murad did everything to reestablish order and law in ottoman empire, he was so brutal but it worked, Kosem was part of a corrupt system that she got benefitted from, Murad preferred to end the dinasty and put in charge a new one in order to preserve the empire, Ibrahim was mad since Murad's rule, but Kosem did everything to not loose power, even if it meant giving the throne to a mad guy. It would have been better for both Ibrahim and the empire if Murad achieved this goals, the empire would have not suffered from Ibrahim's government and Ibrahim would have not suffered that much. Murad IV was cruel but Kosem was even worse.
If you think about it Kosem sultan actually saved the dynasty by not letting Sultan Mirada execute sultan Ibrahim and the rest ..yea her ways were cruel but the dynasty lasted another 200 years ..who knows what would of happened if sultan Murad4 was the last lineage of the Ottoman dynasty ??
Then you guys says that Sultan Murad was cruel see kosem was more cruel . Involved in her own son death which she was saving from sultan murad and shows she loves him she doesn't she just love power
Kosem was write as a Sultanana or the nayba of the sultanat.But wrong as a mother.beacause no matter how mad and cruel her child is a mother should always stand by her child.but also a great sultana should always think about the Sultanate first and protect the sultanat. But the moral story of her life is even person from royal family or a king or queen is never happy and behind brightness there is a dip darkness 😢😢.and everything has a price
She lost her heart to gain power. Now that lady (healer/witch) in her story that approached her prophecy came true. In exchange of her husband to be well, she have to witness all her loved ones and soon to be loved ones die right before her eyes. (Personally, this is my greatest fear. It shattered my heart when my grandmother & parents' passed away). He killed her only alive son so she can finally take over and rule. What a pity. She let greediness kill her mercy.
When sultan murad took the throne this so called kosam could have let him to rule single handedly. He was very gud as a ruler. But this kosam never let him to rule independently. She was thirsty for power
He was heartless. He killed Ibrahim Pasha and all (sort of) his sons and grandchildren. He was always taking harshly decisions and then he couldn't bring them back. Here, Kiosem is just like Syleiman. He killed her children and Prince Beyazid. Long live Princes Kasim, Beyazid and Ibrahim.
It's sad to me that Kosem started out so innocent and brave, and then she ended up like this: a power hungry tyrant who killed her own children. So sad.
Shirley i wanna tell you kusem is head of empire is means ruler ruler decided sure ulama fatwa but kusem will its impossible to his son execute but kusem did and his son executed infront of kusem.this is throne power what a shame.
@@metehangediz3926 My brother, was sultan Murad actually an alcoholic? I saw a fb page related to Ottoman history, they claim it is a horrible western propaganda. Which is right?
Niestety Sułtan Ibrahim musiał skończyc w ten sposób Był szalony Wojsko go chciało zdetronizować i to zrobili Nie zdolał by rządzić państwem dłużej chociaż i tak jak na niego to długo rządził 8 lat
How a mother can kill her son. The real power is love kindness, not money because one day every one going to die but only kindness and innocence will be live.
@@asilaslapt1510 she live long enough to be like kosem, but she didn't. Why? She love her kids and didn't go crazy like kosem because she still have suleyman. Kosem is going mad bcs ahmed is not there that's why i understand. But still for me hurrem is the greatest for not killing her own children 💜 it's my opinion tho
@@asilaslapt1510 nope she almost at the same age as kosem, she didn't kill her kids bcs she didn't control the state bcs suleyman still alive. She control the king. Kosem can't control the king bcs ahmed left her to die first. So she need to control the state herself.
After watching this scene,i start to hate kosam...She always tried to protect her childrens,that's why she needs power & now she have power but lost all of her child😰..
Hurrem is a good mother.. coz she’ll do everything to protect her children.. Kosem is scary.. a cruel mother she her sons in order to protect the throne..
She gave Ahmet hope but was left to the wolves after he died. Anastasia would have never lasted. Kosem saved the dynasty. It was not pretty but if not for her they would have all been slaughtered long ago. Ahmet should have loved her enough to set her free.
A mother is only allowed to kill you if she is going to stop you to hurt child of another mother...its her right...but this...this is truely horrible...mata gandhari said in mahabharata... That if one child dies with that the mother dies too....oh lord you gave me 100 deaths by death of my 100 sons...what I would do with my life now(she was queen of powerful kingdom) the survivor party who were her husband's nephews who won the war used to respect her too but she chose to leave kingdom with the mother of new king...to mourn her kids...I cant believe... A son can be bad but a mom....dude how? Just how....
They are incomparable. Murad was cruel because he didn’t want to end like osman. Ibrahim was cruel because he was disabled but unfortunately there wasn’t anyone but him.
Kosem if I remember well she told Safiye when she was just Anastasia, she will never be like her but she surpassed her even more!
Well, she had a good teacher, Saffiye but yes Kosem surpassed her teacher!
😂😂😂😂
Elle est devenue pire qu'elle oa meilleure soultana ossman ey hurrum elle au moin protèger ses enfant et elle etait très forte, elle a combatu ibrahim, mahederan, chahazad, radija, moustafa... Tandis que kosem et aussi forte mais a gagné avec les erreurs de la fille a soultana saffye. Donc hurrum et la plus forte
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I think the saddest part about this show, besides all the death that happens, is that being in the palace turned Kosem into the very kind of person she was fighting so hard not to become.
Есть еще очень много печальных моментов.
@@АнастасияУстьянцева-е3и
И это ваше мнение, на которое все имеютправо. Имейте хороший ✌
Riighhhttt soo sad 😖
Why she killed ibrahim
@@asfandsattar7629 Because he was insane. He's actually known in the history books as "Ibrahim the Mad" and he nearly killed his own son. Mental health wasn't something that was treated back then so the only solution Kosem saw was to execute him.
This series made me appreciate my boring life so much.
I don't think I can live everyday with so uncertainty.
When you feel down, remember that someone else has even more bad.
In the end, she became every single person she'd destroyed in the past. She became too powerful like Safiye, trying to remove grandson for another grandson, then trapped in a scandal with a subject like Handan. She also caused her son Kasim to be executed like Halime (kidnapping Mustafa), then she turned mad like Dilruba, no conscience or whatsoever.
Indeed
@@cornearana275 Damn Kosem is evil.
Well, u either die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become the villain
@@mottlol489 Kosem only killed Ibrahim in real history and she had valid reason for it. You have no idea how cruel Ibrahim was. They showed none of his cruelty here.
@@joannastars8737 yes sir
I thought that being killed by your father was bad enough
But being killed by your mother is worse because she birth you into this world, she gave you life and now she takes it
What a messed up time this was
Dont be fool, these kinds of things still happens even in today's world
Brothers murder each other for wealth and power
Even their parents dont spare them alive for their madness
The difference is that they aren't sultans
Remember the first murder happened between Abel and Kane (habil and qabil) who were brothers
Зря Кесем это сделала.
What is wrong with you? You excuse fathers but don't see the fact, that many women don't love their children. Especially when they never wanted them.
@@nielubieinceli i think you're misunderstanding
I'm not excusing anyone, I just think being killed by your mother is worse
@@nielubieinceli so is that the fault of the innocent children
Atike has her great grandma's genes. She resembles Safiye's family so much, especially Humasah Sultan.
Safiye sultana gave a warning to kosem .tht ones she tastes the sweetness of power she will change automatically of which kosem never believed until herself became worse
Yeah right unfortunately at the end she have become what she fought not to become as 😢
Safiye is laughing in her grave
If atike had HELPED her brother rule PROPERLY instead of helping him defie their mother at every turn knowing how well that went for her brothers this mightve been prevented by nooooo.
I think it was a punishment itself to born in that king family,I will prefer a hut life which will give me peace n enjoying life
I read a book about it and a quote from a historian about the Ottoman Empire. He said that born as a prince in the Ottoman Empire is like waiting for your own death. When one of your brother have the throne, the others would count their days to their death. Such unfortunate to be born as a prince at that time 😭
Not all empire like that but evety kingdom has it's own flaw
Legend has it that, the greatest Maurya emperor Ashoka of India killed 100 of his brothers.
Yeah it's just sad that we should have to be kind of Injust to survive in royal life uh :(
Once MAHIDEVRAN SULTANA SAID
"Everyone will remember how a Father (sultan suleiman) killed his own child" and i Literally felt that....and Now Mother is doing this................
Kosem was Right,Ibrahim was the worst Sultan
No brother kosem has destroyed empire she was a woman
@@Kavilaa_0Exactly! Ibrahim was a disgusting fool!
@@yawarkhan371so what if she was a woman?
@@yasharahmed7601she isnt supposed to interfere with politics , she is a cause of the downfall, she didnt receive any education how to rule to begin with
The actor was very successful in holding his role as Ibrahim
Earlier I thought that what a magnificent life these sultans n sultanas lived. But after watching this serial,, i pity on them. We common people are much happier than these
Actually this is just a fantastical series, most of these happenings are not even true.
@@lavendairea.5219 Reality was even worse its true she killed him And anyone who became Sultan immediately they orders to kill all brothers
Me too
@@lavendairea.5219 still some events are true!!
this event too
basics of these series are true but not relations or anything
@@lavendairea.5219 but the fratricide was real and common in Ottoman Empire
The people in these comments are comparing Hurrem and Kosem when their situations don’t even add up. Let’s remember that Hurrem was never Valide Sultan and Kosem was. Kosem did what she could to keep her children and herself alive just like Hurrem. Hurrem didn’t just kill to keep her kids safe she also killed for power. Kosem was a ruler and a woman and at the time people hated those two words put together. Plus Ibrahim was mentally ill which is why he was overthrown. Nobody knows if Kosem consented to his execution but it was done either way. And she was ready to retire after his death but was forced to stay by statesmen who would later on kill her after they realized she wasn’t in her right mind. Do your research before making your opinions and don’t believe everything in the shows.
All historians say that the execution of Sultan Ibrahim took place with the knowledge of Kösem Sultan.
Hurrem was a valide Sultana. She was Selims mother.
@@tiffanyl4829 Valide sultan means being ALIVE when ur son is on the throne. When Selim became Sultan in 1566, Hurrem was already dead
Kösem was the most evil woman in the Ottoman Empire. She wanted to kill her own grandson Mehmed IV. Kösem is definitely a much more cruel woman than Hürrem.
@@GameOver-xp6mg knowledge is one thing but she was forced to give consent. He was killing people anyways. It’s better to sacrifice one for the sake of majority. She had to think as a ruler not a mother.
The only characters i love in this series is Sultan Ahmed Khan
Kosem played by Beren Saat
And Anastasia
agreed
Me too.
Zulfikar, the loyal officer, and Golge, the black warrior girl
what abt mustafa?
@@mottlol489 mustafa is considered the worst sultan of ottoman history, they portrayed a child actor and somebody is blaimg sultan ahmed the great for his situation lol, sultan ahmed saved him and sent him to bayezit, where he grew up as a prince but it was his own problems, mother sister and daud pasha who caused mental problems
I hate those 4 executioners who invade everywhere, holding only a small piece of string.... They're pure terror.
Royal blood can not be spilled, so all executions of royal blood had to be done by rope
its their job
Kosem was really cruel and killed her own children, I dont know why people hate Hurrem, when she killed FOR her children, u can actually see the difference between these two women.
The big difference between hurrem and kosem
Hurrem: willing to bring down her enemies for the safety of her and her children
kosem: willing to overthrow her children for the sake of power and the throne
People hate Hurrem because she made fun of the pain of others and since she came to the palace she was never good, she burned the face of her only friend and blamed a child for starting a fire. For me, hurrem did worse things than kosem, but due to the fact that she did not attack her family, she is considered a better person 😂🙄
@@CarmenSanchez1301 she never made fun of others pain , it was just vengeance for being treated poorly, honestly all the palace people got their Karma back, Valide , Hatice and Mahidevran were just evil. Kosem was already Valide sultan and in power yet she killed her OWN sons, for me she is the most evil character in the series, I love Turhan much more.
@@prettyinpink9698 She made fun of Mahidevran pain, that's why many hated her and also because she was very arrogant, which kosem never was like that or at least when she got to the palace.
Sultan Suleiman ordered his own son to be executed since he acted as sultan, in the case of kosem she acted as sultan because she was regent, ibrahim destroyed the empire but in the series they put him as innocent.
Most of kosem's children are executed by her brother and Murad dies of cirrhosis. Why do most say that she killed her children?
@@CarmenSanchez1301 Most likely because they watched this show and didn't bother to actually read what happened in real life. One time someone commented on one of lady Mary's music edits saying that she shouldn't have glorified Kosem because of the things Kosem did in the show, and when she brought up the case with Kosem trying to kill Murad many people told her that many things in the show were just fiction. She even believed Faray existed.
Everything happened just like Sultan Ahmed feared. Kosem lost all her innocence in this palace. What remained was a greedy, unreasonable, power-hungry, hypocrite monster - someone who Sultan Ahmed would've never loved.
why did she kill ibrahim?:( i didnt watch she series
Ibrahim wasn't ruling properly and was doing so much bad and left the state to bad people who influenced him badly. He sent his mother away and didn't hold the state properly.
@Ashley
@@mckedits9720 i
All these uneducated people in the comments. 😂 Kösem Sultan was given all the power she ruled in her own right for the good of the dynasty her son Murad died of an illness, sultan ibrahims execution wasn't consented to by Kösem, she never killed her children she tried to rule the dynasty fairly so much so that her subjects called her "Mother of all Muslims".
"My only wish from God-- I hope you'll have a worse end than me." Indeed she had.
If you read the history, Sultan Ibrahim was demented and went overboard. He took so many lives due to his mental statehood and his raging anger which worsened over the years. If I am not mistaken, he is said to have drowned his 280 concubines in the Bosphorus. And he was obsessed with women, particularly fat women
You are right,
Correct and historically after he was overthrown there was an argument between Kosem and the statesman because she wanted to go to the Old palace and take Ibrahim with her. But many statesman feared for another rebellion will rise to place Ibrahim back on the throne and wanted to execute him.
Really?... Wow
Riya Maya Sari what this fake TV serie doesn't say Kosem Sultana was a Jewish Greek 🙄 who had sweared to kill her own children for the cause of destroying Islam and Muslims ottoman empire from inside so they can create Israel. READ QURAN about what Allah say about the jews heart that harder than a rock and a rock can crack with water. Surat Baqara .
No love loss for Ibrahim the Terrible.
Ahmed Khan would've been very disappointed with Kosems actions. She became everything he didn't like.
True 😥but probably it wouldn't have happened if he didn't die before her :((
I liked that they brought back the original Anastasia to confront her older self.
The actor who played the role Ibrahim just killed it
I think it's a force, because she's trying to ignore it and stop hearing her Ibrahim's screams
Atike is so damned beautiful.
yes honestly the whole cast is beautiful
Who would've thought the beautiful and innocent Anastasia will become this cruel lqueen mother kosem
she become the person she hate most Safiye sultan
In reality she didn't kill any of his child its shown different story in drama serial actually turhan sultan with sultan mehmet made trap for sultan Ibrahim...
@@pirhjunejo8021 noooo babe she did the only thing this show was fake thats she didnt even felt sad about killing ibrahim like they shown in the show
@@erenyeager2517 she didn't kill sultan Ibrahim go read history she didn't kill any of her child
@@pirhjunejo8021 Actually she killed more sons than Ibrahim
There was this age where Ottoman was only raised to die. Then it fell upon the survivors like Abdul Hamid II, to prevent the fall of the state, but alas the treachery was too deep.
This place steals inoccents
yes idk but payitaht abdulhamid was a very underrated masterpiece. better than kosem sultan
All of them killed their brothers
First she was famous among people for being kind and for charity and know they all hate her, it's all her own fault not anyone else's.
What are you talking about?Almost no one hated her in the people and she was still doing charity.
@@paslaruflorin-alexandru9088 People disliked her after she killed her son Sultan Murad and now after she killed Sultan Ibrahim
@@areebazeeshan1538 Nah,just Turhan's lackeys.
Well you're right I'm wrong
@@areebazeeshan1538 people didn’t hate her for killing murad because 1 nothing proves that she did it and 2 people were happy when he died because he was so cruel and killed people for doing anything.
People hated kosem for killing Ibrahim 1 though because even if he was an inappropriate sultan and unstable….he is still the victim of his brother’s cruelty and his mother’s selfishness.
Kosem had to kill her son because he was mad and killed many of his subjects. If she had not killed him, the whole family would have been put to the sword. He broke the law.
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Then why Murad that why Murad want to kill I Rahim 😅
Kosem is power thristy and hurrem is love and care thristy for her children
haha yesss thats why she was so sad when mehirmah was born 😂😂 and also married her off to man she doesnt love for her brothers 🤣🤣 also when mehmet was born the first thing she said was that she will become a queen the difference is kosem was corrupted but hureem was born corrupt
The era they both lived in was completely different. The state's political situation was really unstable when Kösem was ruling, Hürrem didn't have to experience that. So you can't compare their behaviors & actions.
You can never compare Hurrem with Kosem...Hurrem had been in Suleiman's shade till her death but Kosem had no one but herself
Hurrem never witnessed her children's battle like Kosem. Kosem experienced several battles of thrones where Hurrem herself expired be4 seeing the main throne battle between her sons. Even Mihirmah had to choose one of her brothers. If Hurrem had lived till that time, then it would be fun to see whom got support of hers..
Besides, Hurrem managed to kill Shehzadi Mustafa using Suleiman but Kosem managed Sultan Mustafa to be dethroned twice with her own talent. She had to create her power using her talent to win several minister's support to dethrone Sultan Mustafa not like Hurrem who just provoked only one person
Hurrem was the worst of all Sultanas.She must be really somewhere in hell now😂
@@anastasiaz998 😂just like you will be in hell huhh she was the queen she only get revenge she never did anything wrong first
Murad Khan ruled with an iron fist, discipline and uncorruptible will.
Wasn't he corrupted by yusif pasha?
@@bosbanon3452 no plus in real life yusif might not have even existed (example)
they fell for persian always like-suleiman to firauze
And cruelty.
@@donmido431 Emir Güne existed and was indeed with Sultan Murad IV until his death. He was executed a year later.
It seems she grew to care more about the dynasty than the people in it. 😥
"I'm no longer married with Sultan Ahmed. But with ottoman empire" -kosem
@@ahmataliff7092 Which episode she say like that ?
@@Deeaa14 when she gets married tj sultan ahmed
@@ahmataliff7092 Well that is great and all but Kösrm had heirs to worry about along with other traitors. Unlike Elizabeth I Queen of England who ruled absolutely by destroying her enemies in the beginning and had only one major challenge to her throne: her cousin Mary Stuart Queen of Scots.
She is and outsider and she care more for dynasty then her kids
18:21 and his wish was granted...
Who is the actor in Ibrahim's role? He did a commendable job depicting an insane Sultan. I feel bad for both Ibrahim and Mustafa I ( Sultan Ahmed's half brother) both of whom were only pawns to their power hungry mothers.
Tugay Mercan played Sultan Ibrahim
Hurrem Sultan wouldn't do this to her kids. She would protect them as first.
She's not like hurrem she's like suileman who killed hes son for power just like her
Kosem did hakumat thats y she did ! Kosem with time made cruel sad she killed ibrahim
So turhan killed kosem
@@nikkigaming3601 that was not his reasoning
Hurrem never had to go through that decision, Kosem saved the empire, but to this day she is on trial. You should investigate what Ibrahim did.
@@nikkigaming3601 it’s a drama no one has saw those people in real life
17:26 The whole Muhtesem Yuzyl stands upon this bgm.....
24:37 what a Royal and majestic move....
The princess is looking cute with her curls 😍💙❤️
Atika's role was very positive, sincere, loyal and honest. She had a strong impact.
Well done actress ✌️
lol where we watching the same show?
@@boredofmindgames4662 Yeah, didn't Atike cause her sister to kill herself? How come that was magically forgiven?
Какие кудри?
Atike was my fav character 💕❤️
@@editsbytalhaa Hey I've seen ur edits, they are so good mashallah keep it up lmao
She didn’t realize that this death will be the death of her regime.
This song of execution is so catchy and scary! Its the same since Suleyman the magnificent era....probably since Osman I
Is there a name for that sound track
@@vijinipathirage1641 Zahid Don't Decry Us (Zahid bizi tan eyleme)
Kosem was alone. She lost her husband at young age. She didnt know what to do right yet she attempted to protect dynasty. She's fair of doing everything and hearing many aspirations from her folk.
Kösem was a demon. She had own son executed and she wanted to kill her grandson. I hate her very much!
@@GameOver-xp6mg Kill or be Killed at that time you have to do whatever it takes to survive …
F$ol. The great ruler is hurrem.
♥♥♥hurrem die peaceful and yet powerful.
￦￦￦kosem die with painful and yet regretful.
A great ruler always die with peaceful while the f$$l ruler always gain power and yet die like a m $d dog.
@@user-fe1le2yl3x great ruler always choose their own dead and build their tomb first before k$ll someone. F$$l ruler always love to k$ll and die like a mad dog.. That everyone hate.
@@user-fe1le2yl3x hmm
Hurrem sacrificed everything for her children
Kosem sacrificed her children for everything
That's why Hurrem will always be the best.
yup
That why hurrem is incompareble
Agreed Hurrem is the best, not only because she protected her children but also because she suffered more and she destroyed her enemies and died peacefully in the arms of the man she loved more than anything, unlike Kosem who lost the battle with Turhan and died lonely with no one by her side, she was killed like a dog. I admire Hurrem more than any other Sultana of the Ottoman Empire. Her character is really unforgettable !
You only say that because you don't know what Hurrem would do if Suleyman would have died before her.She was the worst of them all.Ah met entrusted Kosem the future of the empire.She didnt want to kill her children.Her expressions prove it.
Hurrem wouldve snapped on these people like dry twigs an walked away like a boss...
Atike wakes up all frightened because as far as I know, she was Ibrahim's twin sister .
26.45 Sultan Amhad memories❤❤
In real life Kosem tried to stop Ibrahim´s execution but she was unable because Turhan gave the order using Mehmed´s seal.
Mehmed the infant? Are the executioners sane?
@@bosbanon3452 the executioners wanted that and knew that she was behind it (sighing with his seal) because Ibrahim was crazy (mad) and his son was young true but they thought that mehmets mother would rule which she did
That's not accurate. Kosem herself said to kill Ibrahim because if he gets out of the cage, he will not leave her or the statesman alive. Her famous words ''If there are two Caliphs, kill one of them'' also shows she gave consent to Ibrahim's execution.
She didn't actually the excecutioners contracted kösem and she agreed
@@eurech It's not true. This words said Şeih-ul-Islam, not Kosem. She only said that if Ibrahim doesn't be enthroned, nobody will remain in society. She enthroned him but never gave the order of execution
It’s nice seeing Nasia back again
All these Sultanas seem very cruel to our eyes,but in the empire they were right rulers.All of them were forced to go against their loved ones,not only Kosem.And since you all speaking about Hurrem being the best,she would be the worst of all if she was alive when her son ascended the throne.She would destroy the Empire,like Turhan did.
I don't know if Turhan really ended the empire. In fact, her respect for her son's independence ended the sultanate of women. For all intensive purposes, she kind of brought back normalcy and a competent sultanate.
according to series hurrem wouldnt have lived to see that she would've killed herself if suleiman died. and irl its been proved that they did love each other immensely , thats why she stopped having kids after cihangir, because the sultan didn't want her to die from childbirth which was pretty common back then
The ottoman nation was full of barbarians . So was its leadership
@@rihana_1604 She died of a disease though. We all know she would'nt have killed herself if Suleiman (If Allah wanted) died first. Also, it is a dumb assumption that she actually would kill herself if he died 1st. She would have 1st continued to live for her children's sake but the turn evil due to being all alone in the midst of so much evil in the Harem just like kosem did. If Ahmed was alive & kosem died before him then Kosem would have never ever turn so evil. AGAIN, I AM TALKING ABOUT THE series because I do not know what happened years ago since I wasn't there.
@@mazerunner1339 if you read my comment you would see I was talking about the series anyway. that's your opinion , so you do you
*If she didn't remember Ibrahim telling her "let me die mom, I don't want this life", she wouldn't execute him. I'm sure, she suffered a lot, and nobody protected her, she wanted to forgive people, Murad did the opposite. Only Ahmed, Gevhernan understood her. They make her bad.*
She was the one who could've had step back and let sultan murad rule but she wanted to take decisions thinking sultan murad is stupid and can't take decisions
Nobody could've revolted in sultan murad region
@@saimafaizan2402 read the history and you would come to know how cruel sultan Murat was....
If Sultan murad lived some more years ottoman empire would touche its peak again
It might be 😥😥
Ibrahim was unstable and a risk to the state, but in this scene, I really pity him.
The name Ibrahim doesn't carry a great history. It carries an execution label
Mustafa too
And Mehmet
As i know the power as a MOTHER is to protect our children even we cross our deaths so sad..
Does anyone know the song that's playing at the during Ibrahim being murdered of the video need the name and who is singing it
Tough time...
May Allah give Sultan Ibrahim highest rank in Jannah
Ameen sum ameen
Muhammad is a myth. He never existed, you fool. And if he ever did, he was a Pedophile, Murderer and Sinner.
ppl like u exist in every era...
@@EkaterinaIHeris i hope u find your way to Allah , may Allah help you Amen
@@emsa4714 🤢🤮
@@EkaterinaIHeris Infidels like you have existed in every period. And we all know what their end was! These light breezes like you will never make the candle of islam be dimmer.
I want stultan Murad han back
Mad as a hatter, she did the right thing!
Words fail to describe. I've heard from my mother that Life is not a drama. But I think Life is more dramatic than a drama.
By the way 17:45 this music reminds me the death of prince Mustafa.( Son of Suleiman l)
Yuh :((
The reson why Kosem did not kill Mustafa was that he was not a serius threth or danger to otteman and it’s pepol while Ibrahim was a serius danger to that,all in all Kosem was not evil but someone burdend with difficolt task of keeping the otteman and it’s pepol in a good state and I think Kosem if sve knew what Turhan did afterwords to stabelise things would been proud
Kosem very powerful sultana but she very cruel mother.
if you wanted to be the ultimate ruler u should be cruel, otherwise u will breakdown.
She was mad about her power and did not thought about her son
Sadly to survive you have to be cruel, otherwise you would be seen as easy prey if you weren’t cruel.
She had to be. None of her sons were throne ready except for Murad.
@@EkaterinaIHeris yes and osman was power hungry
Ibrahim was executed in 1648. Kemankes Kara Mustapha pasha was executed earlier in 1644, but here we see that Kemankes is still alive ??
Because this series does not show the real history. Every scene is wrong and suspicious.
For those who blame that Kosem Sultan was power hungry, first of all Murad IV became very brutal as it is listed in history so killing him was all she could do because if she replaced him or locked him up, he will come back and order her deaht sentence and actually the reason to killing Ibrahim were two:\
Ibrahim nearly gave away all the gold.
Ibrahim was indirectly cause of ottoman decline
And following that point he could have caused the end of ottoman empire right there
So she took the necassary measures and took such a big step and unlike Sulieiman killing Mustafa because he thought he was tyrant, Kosem killed Ibrahim due to his actions.
Are you freaking mad?
The necessary action is to kill your kids?
Omg..
Murad did everything to reestablish order and law in ottoman empire, he was so brutal but it worked, Kosem was part of a corrupt system that she got benefitted from, Murad preferred to end the dinasty and put in charge a new one in order to preserve the empire, Ibrahim was mad since Murad's rule, but Kosem did everything to not loose power, even if it meant giving the throne to a mad guy. It would have been better for both Ibrahim and the empire if Murad achieved this goals, the empire would have not suffered from Ibrahim's government and Ibrahim would have not suffered that much. Murad IV was cruel but Kosem was even worse.
her children are naturally realm, Nothing can justify kossem
Because of her every strong stultan died until ibrahim had to come on the throne and know him
If you think about it Kosem sultan actually saved the dynasty by not letting Sultan Mirada execute sultan Ibrahim and the rest ..yea her ways were cruel but the dynasty lasted another 200 years ..who knows what would of happened if sultan Murad4 was the last lineage of the Ottoman dynasty ??
Then the crimean girays would assume as the new ottoman dynasty
that's true that kosem fell into love of power
What is the title of the background music @ 17:17 and following seconds?
Check the soundtrack album of the series Kosem there you can find all the songs and also that one
Then you guys says that Sultan Murad was cruel see kosem was more cruel . Involved in her own son death which she was saving from sultan murad and shows she loves him she doesn't she just love power
Historians call him mad....but they doesn't know that every ottoman Padishah was extremely stressed....no one can't imagine their depression
Kosem was write as a Sultanana or the nayba of the sultanat.But wrong as a mother.beacause no matter how mad and cruel her child is a mother should always stand by her child.but also a great sultana should always think about the Sultanate first and protect the sultanat.
But the moral story of her life is even person from royal family or a king or queen is never happy and behind brightness there is a dip darkness 😢😢.and everything has a price
Kosem when she was young run save kids here she killed her son for stupid power to be a ruler she became pure evil
It shows here that people before more cruel.they killed their own family .like sultan sulaiman how his son mustafa killed .
Could someone explain to me why she goes from "crying" in to smiling at 19:50?
@White Rabbit she's literally smiling man...😂 it's ridiculous😂
@White Rabbit or she is like "okay, you're dead, can we move on with our lives yet?"
@White Rabbit who knows?!
The son is dead😢.. I am the regent of the little sultan🙂
She lost her heart to gain power. Now that lady (healer/witch) in her story that approached her prophecy came true. In exchange of her husband to be well, she have to witness all her loved ones and soon to be loved ones die right before her eyes. (Personally, this is my greatest fear. It shattered my heart when my grandmother & parents' passed away).
He killed her only alive son so she can finally take over and rule.
What a pity.
She let greediness kill her mercy.
Safiya sultan gave up her life for her son and Kosem kied her son for power.
Kosem was forced to kill Ibrahim. What would have happened if kosem never accepted his death? They would have killed her too or what?
We never know
When sultan murad took the throne this so called kosam could have let him to rule single handedly. He was very gud as a ruler. But this kosam never let him to rule independently. She was thirsty for power
That time they forgot the outside world and fought each other.
Beren Saat is gorgeous
Kosem sacrifice everyone he love and will love for sultan Ahmed
Wow! Kosem growing up being like Sultanah Safiyye - cruel
And I thought that suileman was heartless
He was heartless. He killed Ibrahim Pasha and all (sort of) his sons and grandchildren. He was always taking harshly decisions and then he couldn't bring them back. Here, Kiosem is just like Syleiman. He killed her children and Prince Beyazid. Long live Princes Kasim, Beyazid and Ibrahim.
The valide of blood.
It's sad to me that Kosem started out so innocent and brave, and then she ended up like this: a power hungry tyrant who killed her own children. So sad.
24:32 😍 Atike sultan
Ibrahim killed so many innocent people
Bcsz he was mad otherwise he would not
Изначально не надо было менять престолонаследование. Не было бы смерти Османа, Мехмеда
Были бы другие смерти конечно
That why sultan murad want to kill ibrahim at that time bcs his know that his mother will easily dethrone ibrahim and kill him
Kösem remember me Suleiman here
No, kosem never excute Ibrahim. The dicesion of fatwas and jadsaries ottoman stateman. This series is wrong. Why the writer tell the true history.
Yes you are right... This whole series is 95% fake which is done just for entertainment purpose...
Shirley i wanna tell you kusem is head of empire is means ruler ruler decided sure ulama fatwa but kusem will its impossible to his son execute but kusem did and his son executed infront of kusem.this is throne power what a shame.
Series is not wrong. We know for a fact Kosem consented to Ibrahim's death. Educate yourself.
@@saverashaikh1023 I am from Turkey and I studied history at university. Kösem absolutely executed İbrahim.
@@metehangediz3926 My brother, was sultan Murad actually an alcoholic? I saw a fb page related to Ottoman history, they claim it is a horrible western propaganda. Which is right?
Niestety Sułtan Ibrahim musiał skończyc w ten sposób Był szalony Wojsko go chciało zdetronizować i to zrobili Nie zdolał by rządzić państwem dłużej chociaż i tak jak na niego to długo rządził 8 lat
18:10 Sultan Murad was right 😢
May Allah give Sultan Murad iv Jannat
How a mother can kill her son. The real power is love kindness, not money because one day every one going to die but only kindness and innocence will be live.
well she was not someone like us she was a valide sultan its a curse living there and having that much power
I still think hurrem the greatest, but kosem really scares me even the older hurrem can't make me feel that way
She is really powerful, she executed the sultan
Hurrem was bad as well she died before her kids fight if she was alive she would be even worse
@@asilaslapt1510 she live long enough to be like kosem, but she didn't. Why? She love her kids and didn't go crazy like kosem because she still have suleyman. Kosem is going mad bcs ahmed is not there that's why i understand. But still for me hurrem is the greatest for not killing her own children 💜 it's my opinion tho
@@Winterbelv she didn't kill her kids bcz she died earlier
@@asilaslapt1510 nope she almost at the same age as kosem, she didn't kill her kids bcs she didn't control the state bcs suleyman still alive. She control the king. Kosem can't control the king bcs ahmed left her to die first. So she need to control the state herself.
After watching this scene,i start to hate kosam...She always tried to protect her childrens,that's why she needs power & now she have power but lost all of her child😰..
it's a show .not reality ,read the history
Im always hate her
@@joanlucas6109 this is real she kill ibrahim
What did he show to the executioner that made him think for a while does anyone know
Hurrem is a good mother.. coz she’ll do everything to protect her children.. Kosem is scary.. a cruel mother she her sons in order to protect the throne..
She gave Ahmet hope but was left to the wolves after he died. Anastasia would have never lasted. Kosem saved the dynasty. It was not pretty but if not for her they would have all been slaughtered long ago. Ahmet should have loved her enough to set her free.
A mother is only allowed to kill you if she is going to stop you to hurt child of another mother...its her right...but this...this is truely horrible...mata gandhari said in mahabharata... That if one child dies with that the mother dies too....oh lord you gave me 100 deaths by death of my 100 sons...what I would do with my life now(she was queen of powerful kingdom) the survivor party who were her husband's nephews who won the war used to respect her too but she chose to leave kingdom with the mother of new king...to mourn her kids...I cant believe... A son can be bad but a mom....dude how? Just how....
I remembered all of them persuaded her to end her son’s life :(
It's not fair that I can't find the music of these last episodes of kosem
what did Ibrahim do, so that Kosem did this?
He. Became cruel even with his sons just like murad!
Sultan Murad Han
He was a better ruler then most of the ottoman sultan
They are incomparable. Murad was cruel because he didn’t want to end like osman. Ibrahim was cruel because he was disabled but unfortunately there wasn’t anyone but him.