The person who said this visitor came at the time for Divine Worship service is correct. It is before SS starts that there are greeters at the door, who give out the Bulletin and welcome everyone. At Worship Service, the atmosphere becomes more reverent and focused on hymns, the sermon and offerings. My Church is a very friendly and welcoming Church and we make sure that if there is pot luck, we treat the visitors as our special guests. This man needs to attend Sabbath School and the Divine Service, and get a better sense of how we conduct our entire Service. I’m glad he at least learned that Saturday not Sunday is the true Bible Sabbath. Let’s pray for him🙏🏼
I've been a Seventh Day Adventist for 21 years now. The one thing I can still remember is the welcome I got on my first visit. I can clearly remember the gentleman saying to me "Jesus needs soldiers like you". There's definitely room for improvement in different churches. I've experienced no welcoming in some churches but that didn't discourage me from staying in the church "...for I know whom I have believed and am persuaded that He is able to keep what I have committed to Him until that Day." (2 Timothy 1:12)
I have visited sda churches and not been welcomed on more than one occasion. From the first time that it happened to me, I decided to make myself a committee of one and welcome unfamiliar faces in my sda church. It has been a pleasure to meet new people, show interest in them, answer any questions, and to tell them about our services. As a teacher in Sabbath School it became the identity of our entire class. Many souls have been won by a smile and a warm welcome. The blessings flow both ways.
Amen, Dexter! Absolutely, we ought not to think it doesn't happen. It does. So few people step out of their comfort zones and take this most important role on: we need people to search out newcomers, greet them with sincere, genuine smiles and hospitality, and keep checking in on them, as our services are distinctly different from first day churches. We have such a blessing to share, within and without our church walls. These truly are the last few months/years of earth's history. Soon our King Jesus will return to collect His people. It's a serious, hugely important message we have to share at this hour. A message of God's agape love. ❤
False claims, brother. In all SDA churches, everyone is welcomed from the pulpit at the beginning of every service, visitors and members alike. Just try to be in early before the service begins. Something important to know is time. To be able to know what type of church you're getting into, you have to be there on time, then you can know all about them and even be blessed. May God help you to find the truth about God Himself and do not go looking for people to be nice to you, to recognise your presence. We go to church to look for God, not the people.
That is the real truth, even that which some people are reluctant to face. In case any doubt arises, do refer to Romans 3:10-12. You have faced and typed the real truth to remind us about the importance of courtesy and thoughtfulness in the house of Gracious Great God; not only in the temple itself, but also in the Church family. That is the house of Gracious Great God where judgment will take place.
Thank God he came out curious. He is triggered to know more about SDA. May the Holy spirit see him thru this journey of wanting to know about the church 🙏🏽
And may you take my advise to goto awnsering adventism youtube channel a channel where he like me is an ex-sda altho i only attended that church for a time when checking out the different earthly church’s as a teenager until we heard them teach false teachings that is not consistent with the bible. The sda is a false church. Dont believe me. Please goto that UA-cam channel. He knows the true sda teachings far better then I likely ever will and he shows using scripture that it teachs things different then what the bible teachs. I’m 44 now. So I was part of the sda church as a teenager. When we found out them teaching false biblical teachings we warned our teenage friends in the church about it not being a by the bible based church.
SDA churches need to improve in hospitality as a whole. But when it comes to their message? More solid than the finest gold. This is why I became Adventist. Their message is harmonious and perfectly in line with the Bible.
Not always today... creeping compromise .... love sermons which are linked to new age Christianity. .. not Jesus' love which is the law and the hospital. They are preparing people for one world religion and affirmation of the lgbtq is a big part. I don't get how they don't affirm all things God told us not to do but that is the focus .... But I came to the church as it is founded on bible truth and many churches are still doing the right thing by God not doctrines of men
If only that were true. True sda followers are not even actually trinitarians. Do not believe me. Go to the UA-cam channel awnsering adventism where he shows not by conjecture or argument but by scripture that the teachings of the sda church are false. If you wish to worship on Saturday . Goto the Jews specifically the messianic Jews to learn the bible and worship Christ on Sabbat. On Saturday.
@@Drfresh1402 I am from Grenada but living in Jamaica and at church there is someone at the door doing the welcome and taking names of visitors for the welcome after sabbath school is over and for the divine worship
I have to agree SDA churches do not have the best hospitality, I know for myself because I came out of the Baptist church. I talk about it all the time to the churches in hope for a change. Peace and Love 🙏🏽😇
I became SDA early 2024 . I knew SDA were unfriendly having been to quite a few churches visiting over the years. I went to one 26 years ago with my 2 kindergarten aged children and NO ONE spoke to us even though I sat in sabbath school with my children. I left straight after that and thought nothing has changed. I spoke to my now pastor about the experience I had with my children and said "how many people are lost because we are unfriendly and turn them away". 26 years later, and aged 60 years back in 2022, I decided when wanting to go I wasn't going there to make friends but I was going there to learn about Jesus. That's all that mattered. I attended church with my mother back in 2022 and 6 people out of 40 were friendly and came and said hello and small talk. I said to my mother "what's wrong with these people they're friendly". So 2 years later here I am an SDA and I make sure I speak to any stranger to make them feel welcome as I know all too well the coldness. They have actually done a survey on why SDA are unfriendly and the result was they are too focused on studying the bible and not displaying christlike character. Food for thought because it's actually turning people away. Turned me away for 46 years, but thankfully the holy spirit impressed upon me to try again. Be friendly to visitors. They could even be an angel! 🙋♀️🙏🦘
Bro Lawrence I am sooo disapointed in you. I have always watched your videos but you are not strong enough on a big big topic. How we treat/ should treat people . The genltleman was so balanced in his encounter yet you say HE CLAIMED that noone welcomed him😢. Well Sir I have had my own experience of feeling unwelcomed at An SDA. A lady even ask me to get up out of her seat.( I didnt). Years later I became a member of that same church. I only got recognition when I moved from the tiny old structure into my new beautiful home as I was educating my children and couldnt afford anything else at the time. After I started driving to church . People were friendly to me and started asking me to do stuff that is after I have been there for a couple of years😅. I have seen the working of the Lord in the life of me and my children. God is good.My 3 kids all grown with their own families are SDAs. God gave me Christian husband . Our 17 yr old is a serving member of the church. We are bless❤ 1- God is our perfect example 2- Treat people the way we want to be treated.
People should go to church to setve God not to make friends. Some small churches do not put greeters at the door, however, they welcome visitors during the lesson studdy and during divine service. I will not stop going to a new SDA church just because no one greet me. I go to serve God not man. I keep my eyes fixed on Jesus not on man. I dont care whether people great me or not.
It's sure too bad that there were not friendly greeters to welcome this man. At the church I go to there have been friendly greeters for many years. My husband is a deacon and very friendly too visitors. Visitors have expressed their appreciation.
@@evelynedwards-mw2xq When the character of Christ is NOT shown it is a big turn off! Your comment sounds, not trying to insult, but selfish. You should be serving others not yourself. A warm hello or acknowledgement to non-SDA is vital to make them to want to come back. They want to see the character of Christ. They can get rude and friendly outside the church. Why inside?
I am a Seventh Day Adventist Church member. I've been to Seventh-day Adventist Church, where I see no one to welcome me. But I've also been to SDA Church, where I've been welcome properly. I hope this gentleman try another SDA in the future.
Brothers and sisters, we need to be intentional in our witness and not miss the opportunity to welcome someone! I remember when I was in high school I had invited a friend to church. When I got to church someone sat behind me who in my peripheral vision looked like my friend. I turned around and realized it was a visitor. I welcomed her and talked after church and invited her to our house for lunch. She told us at lunch that this is the third time she came to an Adventist church and in previous times no one talked with her! She had said to herself, if no one talks with me this time either I am not coming back. (she grew up in the faith but married someone who was not a Christian and was trying to get back to church). She is still at that church 30+ years later and a leader in the church.
In the Caribbean we focus on new comers or visitors before, during and after service especially in small congregations. We call them by name and record when they visit each time. The leaders speak to them and members swarm around them to thank them for their presence and invite them back. They get food, etc. and are invited to members' homes and church activities.
The acts you described are those of [old-fashioned] Adventism. Like courtesy and good conduct, they work fine during these times and in this modern culture.
I have been an Adventist since a child, as an adult I attended an African American church. They quoted the 4th commandment at the beginning of the worship service, I feel this is very important so that visitors know why we are there on Saturday
His experience at this SDA church sure does not determine the behaviour of all SDA church. My church in Jamaica surely welcomes visitors. I'm glad though at the end he was eventually welcome.
Wonderful job brother Lawrence. I had a bad day but when I noticed that you are always encouraging the SDA brethren I had no choice but to listen and viewing the Video.
That's one thing I miss about home ..but I have been to plantain sda in Florida and I felt like I was at home even made it on the praise team went to Phillidelphia sda in Ny...Bronx sda Mt Vernon just still felt at home I went to many others and I was wondering if it was a sda church ....
Please touch the other people who have been hurt like David. Some folks left the Church to the point of no return; there are many who were with us, before they left for good.
Wow, i really appreciate that guy's honesty on his biases and first impression. We're not very good with visitors. I hope the Holy Spirit continues to lead and guide him. ❤
My first rime attending a SDA church I was welcomed and was invited to a woman's home for lunch. 1 1/2 yrs ago I returned to my local SDA church. I was so welcomed. Invited to lunch at a members house where about w0 people enjoyed a delicious buffet. I got baptized and became a member. We have greeters at our door always.
Back in the early 2000s, I lived in GA and went to visit non SDA family in Summerville SC. I made a point to go to church, where I was not greeted, and in spite of there being other ladies in the restroom, none made contact or said hello. I have never forgotten how bad this made me feel. If I was not SDA I would have never gone back to one. I'm thankful to belong to a super loving church in Canyonville, Oregon now, and I make a point to greet people I haven't seen before. It can make or break someone's experience. I'm relieved to hear that this gentleman found some redeeming qualities at the end of his experience!!
l am glad he heard the child and also heard the sermon and the holy spirit will take control for him to be more interested to know about the Seventh day Sabbath the word of God Will give him all the answers by the inspection of the holly spirit of God 🙏🙏
I praise God for His Holy Spirit for touching him and bringing him this conviction. May many more learn the truth about the Sabbath. It is the 4th commandment and will be the test for the last days. Thank you bro for sharing and God bless you. ❤🙏🏼🙌🏼
I'm a Seventh-day Adventist and I have been to several SDA churches and gone unnoticed. It's a shame but, I'm thankful though that you can go anywhere in the world and you can find a church to attend on Sabbath if you choose to. In 2022 my husband and I was on Christmas vacation out our state and we visited a church and there was a well know person who I had been seeing on some of our Adventist stations and he did the welcome, we weren't acknowledged at all. My husband doesn't really care about that sort of thing, but this time it bothered him. We should be the most welcoming and friendly people. I know all of our personalities are not the same but there should be someone welcoming folk.
@@vanessad.mccullum3676 I've only been to churches that are welcoming, no matter where I've gone. I find it heartbreaking and so sad that there's churches that aren't welcoming to everyone!
Brother, I am SDA and live in South Africa. In USA though for this summer. Was in Hawaii, Miami and small town Michigan. The one in Michigan I go to regularly in summer and I know and am involved with. The ones in Hawaii.and Miami I was a visitor. Such amazing hospitality and welcoming. Was greeted, asked to be involved (in Sabbath school) and asked to stay for potluck. Have experienced similar hospitality in other countries. Love the SDA church and find them welcoming and kind everywhere.
Not having a greeter at the door is me and my husband’s lament at our church. I know firsthand how bleak it feels to walk into a church without being greeted and sadly, it has always been a SDA Church. First impressions go deep and can make or break! So I’m very glad that you posted this video. 🙏
Please sister goto awnsering adventism here on youtube. It’s a channel who shows the false teachings of the sda church scripturally. I was part of the sda when I was a teenager and my family at the time my mom my step dad my twin sister and myself I’m a guy. Left second we recognized they were teaching things not from the bible. Check out messianic Jewish churchs to be a true sabbat worshipper. Dont just believe me about your church being a cult. Go look on that channel when he proves it using scripture.
Same thing happened to me! The first SDA church I tried was amazing. The music was incredible. The organ was immense, as was the building. The people, very few, were all cliqued together and dressed to the nines. The service was nothing special. NO ONE GREETED ME, NO ONE SPOKE TO ME, I TRIED TO BUTTONHOLE SOMEONE AND WAS SHUNNED. PRAISE THE LORD that I went to another SDA Church next Saturday. Everyone went out of their way to welcome me, invited me to the men's study, and the pastor took all sorts of time to welcome me. I still have no idea how that other church can be SDA. I'm there almost two years now and going strong. This happened in Denver, I wonder if this guy went to the same one I did?
Yes! Their are quite a few in the SDA Churches who can be snobs! I've witness that myself! But there are snobs in every church not just the SDA Church! That did not change my belief though! I believe we do have a message to the world as we are nearing the end of the age! Signs of the times! 😢😢
That's true, it's not every SDA church that lack hospitality,if he that experience it was really unfortunate, but here in Zambia we do greet and warmly welcome visitors and everyone who comes to worship with us
Wow im a diaconese and we have few ladies are diaconesses our job to do every Sabbath be at the door snd greet everyone that comes and we hsve a hook to write down the names of the visitors.Also later on on the second part on Divine service visitors are called by their names and they are given the welcome.( These are at Sorrento Spanish Church in Florida near Orlando)
Oh yes,as a SDA that happen to me so many times I cannot count.One time one member tried to make me move from the seat I was.She said that I was sitting on her seat. I told her if she shows me her name somewhere anywhere on the seat I will move from the seat.Otherwise I’m not moving.
This happens a lot. I experienced this several years ago in a church in Texas and again in a church in New Jersey. Being an Adventist this saddened me. At my home church we have a motto that we may not be the largest church but we strive to be the friendliest. People are greeted not just by one but many and given a welcome bag and encouraged to come back.
Hi my brother, you know, our God do not try, He acts through His servants/ individuals to plant the seed of truth, it is up to the receiver to accept this truth and act on it.
@@sophiawalker2763 @sophiawalker2763 God uses angels to minister to fallen man as well. I can tell you incidents were someone spoke to me, then when I turned around to interact, he was gone. Yes .......... God uses humans to call their fellow man to the truth. Nevertheless he uses heavenly messengers too.
I am a 7th Day Adventist member. The 7 day of the week is Saturday. Hence our Saturday/Sabado =Sabbath church service is on the Sabbath. I have been with SDA 3 years. I can honestly say I have never experienced anything like what you are speaking of. Praise the Lord. I am a frequent traveler and have always found each church very welcoming. I’m am so sorry you had such a terrible experience.
My SDA congregation in North America has a team of greeters at the door each Sabbath. I must say that not getting very personal with people is part of Western culture (I will stand corrected), there is this "give me my space" culture. It is not so in many other cultures where visitors are recognized and their home churches mentioned. There is no written policy when offerings are collected. Some attendees leave worship early for personal reasons. I appreciate this man's honesty and hope that that particular church and others have taken note.
I have been an SDA for over 55 years. I have experienced what this video said about not being greeted as a stranger at one my own denomination churches. For example, I visited a church when I was traveling in Alabama and from the moment I entered till the time I left not one person said "Hi" to me. I have told everyone the I have had conversations with on this subject that I think, from my experience of holding numerous offices in the church, that the "Greeter" is the most important position in the church congregation. Just as this video depicted, they are the first contact any visiting stranger may have. Therefore, I contend that the church greeter is the spearhead of our evangelistic mission.
Solid message is suppose to help us one day to be better hospitable members it will happen . To bring pure and peaceful change it also requires some crucible and to appreciate the one who work to the problem of sin. That provision is made by heaven for God churches and the followers. We pray that the lord help us to improve on our human interaction and branding.🙏🙏🙏
Yeah, we are weak in hospitality, though we have sound biblical teachings. We all have to be receptive to people around us especially when they step into our church house
I moved to Ohio from Tennessee. I visited three SDA churches for the first time, and no one greeted me at all, with one exception, a member of a Columbus church asked me to move because I was sitting in her spot! As I was leaving a church in Dayton a couple of men spoke to me, and actually said some of the people (women) were not friendly to stranger women. I had driven two hours to visit that church. The church in Cincinnati was uneventful, I was in and out without notice. It was revealing to me so I have always made it a point to greet visitors at church. I no longer expect the church to be friendly. In all fairness these were isolated experiences as I was immediately embraced at other SDA churches. The opposite has been my experience at non-SDA churches. I am generally greeted and invited to stay for "lunch" at these mostly white churches. Overall, I believe the SDA churches are open and warm. It's just that some members are stoic, and those are the ones that stand out.
Maybe this will help You, I left Catholicism because within is so much sin going on that my conscience, like Martin Luther's said I can't stand it anymore and I left. I got all books of the major religions, Christian and non Christian. After reading them none were jumping out at. I prayed for a few weeks, asking God to give me Truth, and the Holy Spirit that I never had after 50 years of Catholicism ( and thousands of dollars). Then a book appeared at my Apartment, so I started tp read it, it was like a hot turkey meal to a starving person. I read 4 Chapters, looked on the inside, it was a SDA book by Ellen Whites Steps to Christ. I went to a Church Service and God delivered me the Truth, and I got to feel the Holy Spirit and that was an amazing feeling over my entire body, a beautiful warm feeling with a tiny vibration with also felt wonderful, all my old sports wounds didn't have any hurt at all. So all I'm saying is you're treating Churches like they are restaurants, and who really wants to hear your bad time in a place they'll never go, and you think other people want to hear you do all this? That's arrogant to think like that, If I never see your video again it'll be too soon. Educate yourself, by yourself, reading. Then you'll have learned a little how to Pray, Pray more Read more, if you are contrite and sincere in your Prays, God and Christ Will Answer, If you are genuine God will never ever Forsake you. God has staked the whole Heaven on His Word, His promise to each and every one of us, Call on Him in time of need!!! He will Never forsake us!
Thank God that he was recognized as a visitor and was entertained after church service. He also had further discussion with the preacher of the day. Thank God
It is unusual for there not to be any greeters at the door! Notwithstanding that, why wasn’t there a communal greeting to first time visitors, regular visitors and members! However, with all of that, Adventists (in London) are notorious for not welcoming you or saying “hello”, even after the church service! God bless, José for his sermon (we all know about Naman, in the SDA Church, but that’s because we study the Bible). Which makes me wonder if he just went for the Divine Service and not SabbSchool? I hope that that church steps up, because even if that was a one off incident, they had 2 independent non SDA individuals who showed up at their door (they didn’t need to witness to get them there), whom they SHOULD HAVE witnessed to, once they WERE THERE! God obviously sent Tony, to be His witness and Dave was remarkably impressed by the GOOD SENSE of our Etymology. Thank goodness he could accurately point the finger at the Emperor Constantine because I’m sure that many, many, MANY SDA’s could not do so! We all need to Step Up! Dear Lord, please help us! 🙏🏾
Praying for you brother! May the Holy Spirit reveal and provide answers to all your questions! However, I would like to welcome you at my church! You’ll be welcomed and be given some gifts as well!
Here in Jamaica, we meet the visitors at the doors. That's where we meet and greet because inside the church, our focus is on the proceedings and God. There should not be a lot of chatter going on. Because we have reverence for God. I therefore apologize to anyone and everyone who has ever visited our churches and felt unwelcome. If you spend time with us, hopefully you will leave with a different view.
@@NormzFellipeno! That’s not a sensible response! When you go to visit a church, you’re not going there to criticise, you’re going to worship! Part of the experience is being greeted at the door, so it’s noticeable. Everyone notices that! It’s even more evident if you can go in, spend time & leave afterwards without anyone greeting you! That happens in some churches even more than you think.
I had similar experience but stayed on and attended the church services here in my country, Papua New Guinea, and got baptised 6 years later. I enjoy the fellowship with my church family on Sabbaths.
In Kenya we welcome visitors they have atleast time to say hi I don’t know of the other world wide churches we even share lunch if it is there I have been shocked I thought it’s all over to welcome
My SDA church is in Jocotenango Guatemala. The people preach and speak, while there is a senior [astor, he is not "on" all the time. The children participate in the services as much as they are able. Once the son of my friend, 10 years old, preached a great 30 minute sermon. I value the self sufficiency of the congregation.
My first visit I was way early, sitting in the middle by myself. Seven people came up to me over forty minutes, saying hi and asking about me. I was overwhelmed by the Holy Spirit and knew i had found home.
Every church is different you can't judge one to another. I'm from Toronto Canada and my church has a band and gospel choir. everyone is very interactive with each other including with the visitors during the service they are given a special welcome.. at the end of the service they usually have a lunch potluck for the visitors and members
Hospitality is important especially when one first walks in the door. I’m a local Elder and have visited many in my district and out of state and have experienced this unwelcome experience before. Nevertheless it’s not the higher percentage. We need to except the constructive criticism and just get better as we desire to enlarge the kingdom so GOD is glorified. Thanks for another good video and good content. May GOD bless your ministry.
It depends on the Individual church, some are friendly and some are not. I have had unwelcoming experiences as well but still an SDA despite feeling bad sometimes. However on the whole ee have a reputation of being cold and unfriendly. WE CERTAINLY NEED TO BE MORE HOSPITALITY AWARENESS. NOT FRIENDS GREETING FRIENDS AFTER THE SERVICE AND IGNORING NEW FACES. I MAKE IT MY DUTY TO LOOK OUT FOR NEW FACES, AND SOMETIMES INVITE THEM HOME 4 LUNCH
I've been an SDA for 40 years. Last year I traveled to Maryland, visited a church there and no one welcomed me. I also flew to California. Went to a church on Sabbath in Highland (San Bernadino), near a casino. Beautiful church but no welcome there either. Even when I left, it was as if I were invisible. Sad
I wish the video was longer. Man, I hope this gentleman would sit at the feet of one who loves the Lord, and who is a genuine representative of our faith. I pray that someone will connect with him, and redeem that time.
Hi brother you are no longer a visitor.the church is for all to discover your honesty and love for the truth and share the light you have found.May God be with you. From PNG thank you
It is true, I have been an SDA member for many years and the no greeting is becoming an issue in our churches. I have had that experience and multiple people that I know. It is very disheartening.
What spiritual emphasis is needed to know is not more of SDA but let him know to study for himself to know what is truth also with the church this should be an eye-opener for us bless
Wonderful how God worked to changed how this man was feeling when he first entered the church. So many a time we fail to do simple things such as making people feel welcome. Yet God never fail to bring the message of encouragement to help those who are seeking for the truth. Pray God continue His good work in the life of this man. And its a lesson for all Adventists, we are Gods remnant people preparing souls for the coming of the Lord. Therefore we should be the most happy and joyful people. We have a very friendly church welcoming people, we have visitors every Sabbath from the community and other adventist churches. We run a lunch ministry every Sabbath for our visitors and the community, some from the community just come for the lunch and fellowship. People needs to see and feel the love of Jesus in the church 🙏❤
I am a Seventh day Adventist and have been for years. I travelled to neighbouring island and entered a SdA Church after seeing the sign. It was Sabbath afternoon. I was not greeted and the Eye contacts were NOT WELCOMING. A stranger seem as "a stranger". I knew every hymn, song and sang. Their indifference was resoundingly loud. But it could not take away my exclamation of, Amen! Their attitude and disposition reflected two bias: national and denominational. We can be calculated in our reception.
Praise God for the young man! One thing he could have woven in and would have helped answer the Sabbath question is that Naaman had to dip 7 times because the blessings is on the 7th time (in parallel to the blessing being on the 7th day!) (also teaches perseverance with natural remedies). Anyway praise God some still live up to the name of “people of the Book”. May we continue to study our Bible so we can give an answer to those who ask a reason for our faith.
I went to an Adventist university (USC, Trinidad) and it seems like the entire campus greets u. Eventually I started to walk wit my head down. Some yrs ago I was in England for a couple of months, everyone greeted me at the sda church i went to. I went to the church every Sabbath and every Sabbath I was invited to someone's home for lunch (I accepted from my 2nd visit). I am currently in the US and I was welcomed, but i did experience the offering collection twice as well, just as he did, with the kids, etc..never experienced that before. the detailed offering paper is usually for members and we know what it means. For example, if u want to give money to missionary missions or to children's education, etc. I'm glad u had a better experience at the end. I've been Adventist all my.life we r too welcoming 😅
My friend brought her non Adventist male interest to church.He,came many times but I notice hes been missing for a while.I contacted him,and asked why isnt he been comming to church.He said they are weirdos😂.No one has,ever greeted him or have spoken to him.He said,...Your church has,3 pastors and not one of them ever reached out or greeted or welcome him.He also said the members just look at him funny and kept on their merry sabbath way😂.He also said, I quote "I am Baptist and there is no way a visitor would come in and be treated like that." I said bro dont feel bad..I have been comming here for over 25 yrs and some of these heathens still looking at me like a dirty old rag and never say hello or smile.They will greet the person beside me then,keep on going 😂😂😂.Remnant church please do better cuz you know better.Stop scoping the benches to see which member has on a bracelet,wedding ring,lipgloss or a necklace and make your visitors feel welcome.
Glad someone finally got through to him and invited him for potluck. Glad he decide to stick to it. Glad Tony told him about the real Sabbath. Glad that God still works through His flailing imperfect children. Hosea was right, sometimes God needs outsiders to make us understand Him.
As a Seventh-day Adventist, the experience David described is a poignant fact that determines whether a visitor is a guest or an impostor. When I am not welcomed in a place, whether it is a store, an office, a church, or a house, the next thing on my mind is I am destined to exit through the door. The snobbishness that David described is typical of brothers and sisters who are not taught to love and care about each other, as in the typical family. This commentor speaks with clean and proper language throughout the show. He knows more about principles from the Holy Bible, than some Seventh-day Adventists who know mostly about church doctrines. Gracious Great God made a Church to introduce a perfect work made by Him to be given to us as imperfect people so that we may be made to be perfect by the Lord, Himself. David has likely learned that imperfect people are outside and inside the church. Therefore, the wheat and the tares should "grow" together, until the Harvester, as Jesus Christ, shall come to Earth and do the divine harvesting like never before. Our Creator deserves our whole trust in Him more than it should be passed onto other people.
The same thing happened to me as a new guy, though an Adventist, when I first entered my current local church. What he said should really be taken seriously. Shalom 🙏🏽
I have seen something like that (not being talked to) in an SDA church. My Mum and I had been visiting the church. We had other not so good experiences to in other SDA churches. We need to be careful to talk to visitors and also be careful what sort of things we say to them when we do talk to them.
His experience of not being greeted is more prevalent than you think. I've been SDA since I was 12, and I've belonged to different churches over the years. The times I had to find a new church, I experienced this a lot. One time, I visited a church, and no one greeted me, said hello, or came up to me out of curiosity. I decided to stay for potluck, and I SAT AT A TABLE ALL ALONE. One lady finally came up to say hello, but when she was done, she left me there alone at the table. She didn't volunteer to sit with me or did she invite me to sit at her table. It was the rudest experience I ever had. I have been to a few SDA churches where this happened. The churches that I have transferred my membership to are churches where the greeting was wonderful. But we need to get better at greeting. If you are a deaconness, make sure this happens.
I’ve been going for two years I used to go to potluck, but I would sit alone with my family too and people would say happy sabbath, but that was it and everybody says happy sabbath and they greet me but it’s not really a fellowship. It’s just a happy sabbath. I’m going to heaven see you later and I go cause I would like to know the people I’m supposed to spend eternity in heaven with, but I don’t feel like it’s, that kind of fellowship
The refrigerator affect is real but God always send someone to make you feel welcome. Don’t go for the people go because of the perfect message which comes from the Bible and the Spirit of Prophecy.
Actually a lot of SDAs in our churches come off as unfriendly to people that we don't know. Here in Malawi a lot of people complain about our unwelcoming and cold attitude towards others. I pray that we should change in this area
That is a problem indeed in a lot of churches. We need to be friendlier. However, I have had very positive experiences in a number of SDA churches that made me feel the love of Jesus in people.
There are soo many things we can improve on from the guys experience..Eg.Greetings stragies and always presenting the word in a way that would bring conversion and frefreshment to the souls of the congregation..
He didn't give a time he got to church, however, I am subject to correction, his description of events (offertory, musical selection) suggest he got to worship just about the time for the divine hour message. If so, the welcome segment may have already ended. And yes, bro. Lawrence, he should keep researching, he'll know more.
You are perfectly right and this is his first visit he said nothing sabbath school we adventist we should not be quick to comdemn and critize our church
No way. Someone must always be at the door to welcome everyone, and stay there as Divine hour is taking place, as long as they can hear the Sermon. There is no excuse for this.
In my church they always welcome you and most times maybe even hug you. Don’t be discourage, not all SDA churches are welcoming. We definitely need to work on that.
The person who said this visitor came at the time for Divine Worship service is correct. It is before SS starts that there are greeters at the door, who give out the Bulletin and welcome everyone. At Worship Service, the atmosphere becomes more reverent and focused on hymns, the sermon and offerings. My Church is a very friendly and welcoming Church and we make sure that if there is pot luck, we treat the visitors as our special guests. This man needs to attend Sabbath School and the Divine Service, and get a better sense of how we conduct our entire Service. I’m glad he at least learned that Saturday not Sunday is the true Bible Sabbath. Let’s pray for him🙏🏼
I've been a Seventh Day Adventist for 21 years now. The one thing I can still remember is the welcome I got on my first visit. I can clearly remember the gentleman saying to me "Jesus needs soldiers like you". There's definitely room for improvement in different churches. I've experienced no welcoming in some churches but that didn't discourage me from staying in the church "...for I know whom I have believed and am persuaded that He is able to keep what I have committed to Him until that Day." (2 Timothy 1:12)
I have visited sda churches and not been welcomed on more than one occasion. From the first time that it happened to me, I decided to make myself a committee of one and welcome unfamiliar faces in my sda church. It has been a pleasure to meet new people, show interest in them, answer any questions, and to tell them about our services. As a teacher in Sabbath School it became the identity of our entire class. Many souls have been won by a smile and a warm welcome. The blessings flow both ways.
Amen, Dexter!
Absolutely, we ought not to think it doesn't happen. It does.
So few people step out of their comfort zones and take this most important role on: we need people to search out newcomers, greet them with sincere, genuine smiles and hospitality, and keep checking in on them, as our services are distinctly different from first day churches.
We have such a blessing to share, within and without our church walls.
These truly are the last few months/years of earth's history. Soon our King Jesus will return to collect His people. It's a serious, hugely important message we have to share at this hour. A message of God's agape love. ❤
We ought to make visitors welcome especially.if they r not part of the Movement, its the prelude to introduce the Lord Jesus to them 😊😊❤
We as SDA are not friendly at all
False claims, brother.
In all SDA churches, everyone is welcomed from the pulpit at the beginning of every service, visitors and members alike. Just try to be in early before the service begins. Something important to know is time. To be able to know what type of church you're getting into, you have to be there on time, then you can know all about them and even be blessed. May God help you to find the truth about God Himself and do not go looking for people to be nice to you, to recognise your presence. We go to church to look for God, not the people.
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Some sda churches are friendlier than others. It’s up to every individual church to manage their own church.
thank you for saying that i dont like when people think every churh is the same
That is the real truth, even that which some people are reluctant to face. In case any doubt arises, do refer to Romans 3:10-12. You have faced and typed the real truth to remind us about the importance of courtesy and thoughtfulness in the house of Gracious Great God; not only in the temple itself, but also in the Church family. That is the house of Gracious Great God where judgment will take place.
Many churches are unfriendly
Thank God he came out curious. He is triggered to know more about SDA.
May the Holy spirit see him thru this journey of wanting to know about the church 🙏🏽
And may you take my advise to goto awnsering adventism youtube channel a channel where he like me is an ex-sda altho i only attended that church for a time when checking out the different earthly church’s as a teenager until we heard them teach false teachings that is not consistent with the bible. The sda is a false church. Dont believe me. Please goto that UA-cam channel. He knows the true sda teachings far better then I likely ever will and he shows using scripture that it teachs things different then what the bible teachs. I’m 44 now. So I was part of the sda church as a teenager. When we found out them teaching false biblical teachings we warned our teenage friends in the church about it not being a by the bible based church.
SDA churches need to improve in hospitality as a whole. But when it comes to their message? More solid than the finest gold. This is why I became Adventist. Their message is harmonious and perfectly in line with the Bible.
Not always today... creeping compromise
.... love sermons which are linked to new age Christianity. .. not Jesus' love which is the law and the hospital. They are preparing people for one world religion and affirmation of the lgbtq is a big part. I don't get how they don't affirm all things God told us not to do but that is the focus ....
But I came to the church as it is founded on bible truth and many churches are still doing the right thing by God not doctrines of men
VERY WELL SAID!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Let’s continue to Pray. There’s Hope.🙏🏽❤️👌🏾
If only that were true. True sda followers are not even actually trinitarians. Do not believe me. Go to the UA-cam channel awnsering adventism where he shows not by conjecture or argument but by scripture that the teachings of the sda church are false. If you wish to worship on Saturday . Goto the Jews specifically the messianic Jews to learn the bible and worship Christ on Sabbat. On Saturday.
@@Drfresh1402 I am from Grenada but living in Jamaica and at church there is someone at the door doing the welcome and taking names of visitors for the welcome after sabbath school is over and for the divine worship
I have to agree SDA churches do not have the best hospitality, I know for myself because I came out of the Baptist church. I talk about it all the time to the churches in hope for a change.
Peace and Love 🙏🏽😇
What a lesson to shake us and wake us up!! Praise God for José and God's word presentes properly.
I became SDA early 2024 . I knew SDA were unfriendly having been to quite a few churches visiting over the years. I went to one 26 years ago with my 2 kindergarten aged children and NO ONE spoke to us even though I sat in sabbath school with my children. I left straight after that and thought nothing has changed.
I spoke to my now pastor about the experience I had with my children and said "how many people are lost because we are unfriendly and turn them away".
26 years later, and aged 60 years back in 2022, I decided when wanting to go I wasn't going there to make friends but I was going there to learn about Jesus. That's all that mattered.
I attended church with my mother back in 2022 and 6 people out of 40 were friendly and came and said hello and small talk. I said to my mother "what's wrong with these people they're friendly".
So 2 years later here I am an SDA and I make sure I speak to any stranger to make them feel welcome as I know all too well the coldness.
They have actually done a survey on why SDA are unfriendly and the result was they are too focused on studying the bible and not displaying christlike character.
Food for thought because it's actually turning people away. Turned me away for 46 years, but thankfully the holy spirit impressed upon me to try again.
Be friendly to visitors. They could even be an angel!
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Bro Lawrence I am sooo disapointed in you. I have always watched your videos but you are not strong enough on a big big topic. How we treat/ should treat people . The genltleman was so balanced in his encounter yet you say HE CLAIMED that noone welcomed him😢. Well Sir I have had my own experience of feeling unwelcomed at An SDA. A lady even ask me to get up out of her seat.( I didnt). Years later I became a member of that same church. I only got recognition when I moved from the tiny old structure into my new beautiful home as I was educating my children and couldnt afford anything else at the time. After I started driving to church . People were friendly to me and started asking me to do stuff that is after I have been there for a couple of years😅. I have seen the working of the Lord in the life of me and my children. God is good.My 3 kids all grown with their own families are SDAs. God gave me Christian husband . Our 17 yr old is a serving member of the church. We are bless❤
1- God is our perfect example
2- Treat people the way we want to be treated.
Not true Shepard Rod
People should go to church to setve God not to make friends. Some small churches do not put greeters at the door, however, they welcome visitors during the lesson studdy and during divine service. I will not stop going to a new SDA church just because no one greet me. I go to serve God not man. I keep my eyes fixed on Jesus not on man. I dont care whether people great me or not.
It's sure too bad that there were not friendly greeters to welcome this man. At the church I go to there have been friendly greeters for many years. My husband is a deacon and very friendly too visitors. Visitors have expressed their appreciation.
@@evelynedwards-mw2xq When the character of Christ is NOT shown it is a big turn off! Your comment sounds, not trying to insult, but selfish. You should be serving others not yourself.
A warm hello or acknowledgement to non-SDA is vital to make them to want to come back. They want to see the character of Christ. They can get rude and friendly outside the church. Why inside?
I am a Seventh Day Adventist Church member. I've been to Seventh-day Adventist Church, where I see no one to welcome me. But I've also been to SDA Church, where I've been welcome properly. I hope this gentleman try another SDA in the future.
Brothers and sisters, we need to be intentional in our witness and not miss the opportunity to welcome someone! I remember when I was in high school I had invited a friend to church. When I got to church someone sat behind me who in my peripheral vision looked like my friend. I turned around and realized it was a visitor. I welcomed her and talked after church and invited her to our house for lunch. She told us at lunch that this is the third time she came to an Adventist church and in previous times no one talked with her! She had said to herself, if no one talks with me this time either I am not coming back. (she grew up in the faith but married someone who was not a Christian and was trying to get back to church). She is still at that church 30+ years later and a leader in the church.
In the Caribbean we focus on new comers or visitors before, during and after service especially in small congregations. We call them by name and record when they visit each time. The leaders speak to them and members swarm around them to thank them for their presence and invite them back. They get food, etc. and are invited to members' homes and church activities.
The acts you described are those of [old-fashioned] Adventism. Like courtesy and good conduct, they work fine during these times and in this modern culture.
I have been an Adventist since a child, as an adult I attended an African American church. They quoted the 4th commandment at the beginning of the worship service, I feel this is very important so that visitors know why we are there on Saturday
His experience at this SDA church sure does not determine the behaviour of all SDA church. My church in Jamaica surely welcomes visitors. I'm glad though at the end he was eventually welcome.
Thank you for sharing this video. Praying for my Seventh-day brothers and sisters all over the world. ❤
Wonderful job brother Lawrence. I had a bad day but when I noticed that you are always encouraging the SDA brethren I had no choice but to listen and viewing the Video.
Great post, learned lesson of hospitality to be improved in SDA Churches.
Good enough, the pastor do his part for Jesus. Praise God.
Listening to him make me realize that we still have alot of work to do because there is alot of people out there that don't know about the sabbath
That was also the impression that I've got listenning to him.
That was also the impression that I've got listenning to him.
I have experienced also with some of the SDA churches, makes me sad
As Jamaicans..we always welcome our visitors.
God loves Jamaica!
Exactly.
Our Haitian churches always welcome them too.
That's one thing I miss about home ..but I have been to plantain sda in Florida and I felt like I was at home even made it on the praise team went to Phillidelphia sda in Ny...Bronx sda Mt Vernon just still felt at home I went to many others and I was wondering if it was a sda church ....
Pray for this gentleman.
Prayers have already Gone Forth on behalf of this precious soul, & Heaven’s Resources Have Already Being Dispatched on his behalf. Continued Prayers🙏🏽
Please touch the other people who have been hurt like David. Some folks left the Church to the point of no return; there are many who were with us, before they left for good.
Wow, i really appreciate that guy's honesty on his biases and first impression. We're not very good with visitors.
I hope the Holy Spirit continues to lead and guide him. ❤
Please don’t tar all with the same brush. My church has 2 deacons greeting all who come to the church.
David made some good points and having a greeter or greeters at the door of the church is extremely important!
Interesting story David. Praying for you to go back to this Adventist church and become a member. God bless.
My first rime attending a SDA church I was welcomed and was invited to a woman's home for lunch. 1 1/2 yrs ago I returned to my local SDA church. I was so welcomed. Invited to lunch at a members house where about w0 people enjoyed a delicious buffet. I got baptized and became a member. We have greeters at our door always.
Back in the early 2000s, I lived in GA and went to visit non SDA family in Summerville SC. I made a point to go to church, where I was not greeted, and in spite of there being other ladies in the restroom, none made contact or said hello. I have never forgotten how bad this made me feel. If I was not SDA I would have never gone back to one. I'm thankful to belong to a super loving church in Canyonville, Oregon now, and I make a point to greet people I haven't seen before. It can make or break someone's experience.
I'm relieved to hear that this gentleman found some redeeming qualities at the end of his experience!!
l am glad he heard the child and also heard the sermon and the holy spirit will take control for him to be more interested to know about the Seventh day Sabbath the word of God Will give him all the answers by the inspection of the holly spirit of God 🙏🙏
I praise God for His Holy Spirit for touching him and bringing him this conviction. May many more learn the truth about the Sabbath. It is the 4th commandment and will be the test for the last days.
Thank you bro for sharing and God bless you. ❤🙏🏼🙌🏼
I'm a Seventh-day Adventist and I have been to several SDA churches and gone unnoticed. It's a shame but, I'm thankful though that you can go anywhere in the world and you can find a church to attend on Sabbath if you choose to. In 2022 my husband and I was on Christmas vacation out our state and we visited a church and there was a well know person who I had been seeing on some of our Adventist stations and he did the welcome, we weren't acknowledged at all. My husband doesn't really care about that sort of thing, but this time it bothered him. We should be the most welcoming and friendly people. I know all of our personalities are not the same but there should be someone welcoming folk.
@@vanessad.mccullum3676 I've only been to churches that are welcoming, no matter where I've gone. I find it heartbreaking and so sad that there's churches that aren't welcoming to everyone!
Sorry to hear about people not being welcome at church I am living in Guyana and our church make sure everyone is being welcome every Sabbath
Brother,
I am SDA and live in South Africa. In USA though for this summer. Was in Hawaii, Miami and small town Michigan. The one in Michigan I go to regularly in summer and I know and am involved with. The ones in Hawaii.and Miami I was a visitor. Such amazing hospitality and welcoming. Was greeted, asked to be involved (in Sabbath school) and asked to stay for potluck. Have experienced similar hospitality in other countries. Love the SDA church and find them welcoming and kind everywhere.
Not having a greeter at the door is me and my husband’s lament at our church.
I know firsthand how bleak it feels to walk into a church without being greeted and sadly, it has always been a SDA Church.
First impressions go deep and can make or break!
So I’m very glad that you posted this video. 🙏
God bless you brother.. may Holy Spirit be with you and guide you to the truth..
I’ve been to SDA churches and no one welcomed me I did not let is discourage me though I’m a Proud SDA today
Praise & Glory Be To God for you sis.. Continue staying encouraged & Faithful. Continued Prayers.🙏🏽❤️👌🏾
Please sister goto awnsering adventism here on youtube. It’s a channel who shows the false teachings of the sda church scripturally. I was part of the sda when I was a teenager and my family at the time my mom my step dad my twin sister and myself I’m a guy. Left second we recognized they were teaching things not from the bible. Check out messianic Jewish churchs to be a true sabbat worshipper. Dont just believe me about your church being a cult. Go look on that channel when he proves it using scripture.
Thank you.
@@evelynedwards-mw2xq My pleasure.🙏🏽❤️👌🏾
CoZ those are times of test to know whether you pass it or no
Same thing happened to me! The first SDA church I tried was amazing. The music was incredible. The organ was immense, as was the building. The people, very few, were all cliqued together and dressed to the nines. The service was nothing special. NO ONE GREETED ME, NO ONE SPOKE TO ME, I TRIED TO BUTTONHOLE SOMEONE AND WAS SHUNNED. PRAISE THE LORD that I went to another SDA Church next Saturday. Everyone went out of their way to welcome me, invited me to the men's study, and the pastor took all sorts of time to welcome me. I still have no idea how that other church can be SDA. I'm there almost two years now and going strong. This happened in Denver, I wonder if this guy went to the same one I did?
Yes! Their are quite a few in the SDA Churches who can be snobs! I've witness that myself! But there are snobs in every church not just the SDA Church! That did not change my belief though! I believe we do have a message to the world as we are nearing the end of the age! Signs of the times! 😢😢
That's true, it's not every SDA church that lack hospitality,if he that experience it was really unfortunate, but here in Zambia we do greet and warmly welcome visitors and everyone who comes to worship with us
Thank you Brother Lawrence for your dedicated ministry. May God continue to bless and use you. Amen.
Wow im a diaconese and we have few ladies are diaconesses our job to do every Sabbath be at the door snd greet everyone that comes and we hsve a hook to write down the names of the visitors.Also later on on the second part on Divine service visitors are called by their names and they are given the welcome.( These are at Sorrento Spanish Church in Florida near Orlando)
Oh yes,as a SDA that happen to me so many times I cannot count.One time one member tried to make me move from the seat I was.She said that I was sitting on her seat. I told her if she shows me her name somewhere anywhere on the seat I will move from the seat.Otherwise I’m not moving.
Try the ones in the Caribbean. You will appreciate the hospitality. The greeters are warm and friendly.
This happens a lot. I experienced this several years ago in a church in Texas and again in a church in New Jersey. Being an Adventist this saddened me. At my home church we have a motto that we may not be the largest church but we strive to be the friendliest. People are greeted not just by one but many and given a welcome bag and encouraged to come back.
Tony was really an angel, God was trying to reach this man.
I agree! Amen 🙏🏾
Hi my brother, you know, our God do not try, He acts through His servants/ individuals to plant the seed of truth, it is up to the receiver to accept this truth and act on it.
@@sophiawalker2763 @sophiawalker2763 God uses angels to minister to fallen man as well. I can tell you incidents were someone spoke to me, then when I turned around to interact, he was gone. Yes .......... God uses humans to call their fellow man to the truth. Nevertheless he uses heavenly messengers too.
I am a 7th Day Adventist member. The 7 day of the week is Saturday. Hence our Saturday/Sabado =Sabbath church service is on the Sabbath. I have been with SDA 3 years. I can honestly say I have never experienced anything like what you are speaking of. Praise the Lord. I am a frequent traveler and have always found each church very welcoming. I’m am so sorry you had such a terrible experience.
We lack hospitality thus true we have to learn to welcome visitors as our Father Abraham.
You got exactly what you were looking for. You have a preconceived idea what to expect, and you got it fixed for you.
We need to be more welcoming. And we need more young people..but we are a loving set of people. And we love our visitors.
I try my best to greet everyone every Sabbath.
Gracious Great God bless you, your endeavors and more.
Great faith is all about you and God by his spirit ,not about people .🙏 🙏
16:00 this brother's head was spinning with the TRUTH. Powerful.
Bro lawrence can u please put the link in the description to the original video
Come visit our church in the Caribbean..youll love it here.
Praise God for those who reached out to him, even us members get the snub sometimes
My SDA congregation in North America has a team of greeters at the door each Sabbath. I must say that not getting very personal with people is part of Western culture (I will stand corrected), there is this "give me my space" culture. It is not so in many other cultures where visitors are recognized and their home churches mentioned. There is no written policy when offerings are collected. Some attendees leave worship early for personal reasons. I appreciate this man's honesty and hope that that particular church and others have taken note.
I have been an SDA for over 55 years. I have experienced what this video said about not being greeted as a stranger at one my own denomination churches. For example, I visited a church when I was traveling in Alabama and from the moment I entered till the time I left not one person said "Hi" to me. I have told everyone the I have had conversations with on this subject that I think, from my experience of holding numerous offices in the church, that the "Greeter" is the most important position in the church congregation. Just as this video depicted, they are the first contact any visiting stranger may have. Therefore, I contend that the church greeter is the spearhead of our evangelistic mission.
Solid message is suppose to help us one day to be better hospitable members it will happen . To bring pure and peaceful change it also requires some crucible and to appreciate the one who work to the problem of sin. That provision is made by heaven for God churches and the followers. We pray that the lord help us to improve on our human interaction and branding.🙏🙏🙏
Everytime he says "Advantists" though.. 😂
Yeah, we are weak in hospitality, though we have sound biblical teachings. We all have to be receptive to people around us especially when they step into our church house
I moved to Ohio from Tennessee. I visited three SDA churches for the first time, and no one greeted me at all, with one exception, a member of a Columbus church asked me to move because I was sitting in her spot! As I was leaving a church in Dayton a couple of men spoke to me, and actually said some of the people (women) were not friendly to stranger women. I had driven two hours to visit that church. The church in Cincinnati was uneventful, I was in and out without notice.
It was revealing to me so I have always made it a point to greet visitors at church. I no longer expect the church to be friendly. In all fairness these were isolated experiences as I was immediately embraced at other SDA churches.
The opposite has been my experience at non-SDA churches. I am generally greeted and invited to stay for "lunch" at these mostly white churches.
Overall, I believe the SDA churches are open and warm. It's just that some members are stoic, and those are the ones that stand out.
Maybe this will help You, I left Catholicism because within is so much sin going on that my conscience, like Martin Luther's said I can't stand it anymore and I left. I got all books of the major religions, Christian and non Christian. After reading them none were jumping out at. I prayed for a few weeks, asking God to give me Truth, and the Holy Spirit that I never had after 50 years of Catholicism ( and thousands of dollars). Then a book appeared at my Apartment, so I started tp read it, it was like a hot turkey meal to a starving person. I read 4 Chapters, looked on the inside, it was a SDA book by Ellen Whites Steps to Christ. I went to a Church Service and God delivered me the Truth, and I got to feel the Holy Spirit and that was an amazing feeling over my entire body, a beautiful warm feeling with a tiny vibration with also felt wonderful, all my old sports wounds didn't have any hurt at all. So all I'm saying is you're treating Churches like they are restaurants, and who really wants to hear your bad time in a place they'll never go, and you think other people want to hear you do all this? That's arrogant to think like that, If I never see your video again it'll be too soon. Educate yourself, by yourself, reading. Then you'll have learned a little how to Pray, Pray more Read more, if you are contrite and sincere in your Prays, God and Christ Will Answer, If you are genuine God will never ever Forsake you. God has staked the whole Heaven on His Word, His promise to each and every one of us, Call on Him in time of need!!! He will Never forsake us!
Thank God that he was recognized as a visitor and was entertained after church service. He also had further discussion with the preacher of the day. Thank God
I am a seventh days adventist . I have been to church where I was not welcome . I always introduce Myself with those who I sit between
It is unusual for there not to be any greeters at the door!
Notwithstanding that, why wasn’t there a communal greeting to first time visitors, regular visitors and members!
However, with all of that, Adventists (in London) are notorious for not welcoming you or saying “hello”, even after the church service!
God bless, José for his sermon (we all know about Naman, in the SDA Church, but that’s because we study the Bible). Which makes me wonder if he just went for the Divine Service and not SabbSchool?
I hope that that church steps up, because even if that was a one off incident, they had 2 independent non SDA individuals who showed up at their door (they didn’t need to witness to get them there), whom they SHOULD HAVE witnessed to, once they WERE THERE!
God obviously sent Tony, to be His witness and Dave was remarkably impressed by the GOOD SENSE of our Etymology. Thank goodness he could accurately point the finger at the Emperor Constantine because I’m sure that many, many, MANY SDA’s could not do so!
We all need to Step Up!
Dear Lord, please help us! 🙏🏾
Praying for you brother! May the Holy Spirit reveal and provide answers to all your questions!
However, I would like to welcome you at my church! You’ll be welcomed and be given some gifts as well!
Here in Jamaica, we meet the visitors at the doors. That's where we meet and greet because inside the church, our focus is on the proceedings and God. There should not be a lot of chatter going on. Because we have reverence for God. I therefore apologize to anyone and everyone who has ever visited our churches and felt unwelcome. If you spend time with us, hopefully you will leave with a different view.
Happy and blessed Sabbath day, may we all take heed, God is calling people to repentance, let's be light to those who are coming to Christ
He is right I am an SDA, and I have visited several Adventist churches and no one greeted me either
Coz you went there to judge and compare
@@NormzFellipeno! That’s not a sensible response! When you go to visit a church, you’re not going there to criticise, you’re going to worship!
Part of the experience is being greeted at the door, so it’s noticeable. Everyone notices that!
It’s even more evident if you can go in, spend time & leave afterwards without anyone greeting you!
That happens in some churches even more than you think.
Amazing! May God show him the truth
I had similar experience but stayed on and attended the church services here in my country, Papua New Guinea, and got baptised 6 years later. I enjoy the fellowship with my church family on Sabbaths.
In Kenya we welcome visitors they have atleast time to say hi I don’t know of the other world wide churches we even share lunch if it is there I have been shocked I thought it’s all over to welcome
My SDA church is in Jocotenango Guatemala. The people preach and speak, while there is a senior [astor, he is not "on" all the time. The children participate in the services as much as they are able. Once the son of my friend, 10 years old, preached a great 30 minute sermon. I value the self sufficiency of the congregation.
My first visit I was way early, sitting in the middle by myself. Seven people came up to me over forty minutes, saying hi and asking about me. I was overwhelmed by the Holy Spirit and knew i had found home.
Happy Sabbath Brother Lawrence.
Satan is everywhere.
He attacks the faithful.
Stand strong in the truth and know that we are praying for you.
Do not worry about either being welcomed or not, there is God and his Angels welcomed you already
By their fruits ye shall know them.
Every church is different you can't judge one to another. I'm from Toronto Canada and my church has a band and gospel choir. everyone is very interactive with each other including with the visitors during the service they are given a special welcome.. at the end of the service they usually have a lunch potluck for the visitors and members
Hospitality is important especially when one first walks in the door. I’m a local Elder and have visited many in my district and out of state and have experienced this unwelcome experience before. Nevertheless it’s not the higher percentage.
We need to except the constructive criticism and just get better as we desire to enlarge the kingdom so GOD is glorified.
Thanks for another good video and good content. May GOD bless your ministry.
It depends on the Individual church, some are friendly and some are not. I have had unwelcoming experiences as well but still an SDA despite feeling bad sometimes.
However on the whole ee have a reputation of being cold and unfriendly. WE CERTAINLY NEED TO BE MORE HOSPITALITY AWARENESS. NOT FRIENDS GREETING FRIENDS AFTER THE SERVICE AND IGNORING NEW FACES.
I MAKE IT MY DUTY TO LOOK OUT FOR NEW FACES, AND SOMETIMES INVITE THEM HOME 4 LUNCH
Regardless of the time of the service the visitor arrives they should be greeted and ushered into a seat
Yes We should improve On that specifically small churches ,,,greeting at the door
I've been an SDA for 40 years. Last year I traveled to Maryland, visited a church there and no one welcomed me. I also flew to California. Went to a church on Sabbath in Highland (San Bernadino), near a casino. Beautiful church but no welcome there either. Even when I left, it was as if I were invisible. Sad
I wish the video was longer. Man, I hope this gentleman would sit at the feet of one who loves the Lord, and who is a genuine representative of our faith. I pray that someone will connect with him, and redeem that time.
Our SDA church in Springs South Africa welcomes everyone and we are all God filled Christians
Hi brother you are no longer a visitor.the church is for all to discover your honesty and love for the truth and share the light you have found.May God be with you.
From PNG thank you
A RESOUNDING AMEN RIGHT UP IN HERE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!🙏🏽❤️👌🏾🙏🏽👏🏾❤️👏🏾❤️👍🏽❤️🙏🏽
It is true, I have been an SDA member for many years and the no greeting is becoming an issue in our churches. I have had that experience and multiple people that I know. It is very disheartening.
What spiritual emphasis is needed to know is not more of SDA but let him know to study for himself to know what is truth also with the church this should be an eye-opener for us bless
Wonderful how God worked to changed how this man was feeling when he first entered the church. So many a time we fail to do simple things such as making people feel welcome. Yet God never fail to bring the message of encouragement to help those who are seeking for the truth. Pray God continue His good work in the life of this man. And its a lesson for all Adventists, we are Gods remnant people preparing souls for the coming of the Lord. Therefore we should be the most happy and joyful people. We have a very friendly church welcoming people, we have visitors every Sabbath from the community and other adventist churches. We run a lunch ministry every Sabbath for our visitors and the community, some from the community just come for the lunch and fellowship. People needs to see and feel the love of Jesus in the church 🙏❤
I am a Seventh day Adventist and have been for years. I travelled to neighbouring island and entered a SdA Church after seeing the sign. It was Sabbath afternoon. I was not greeted and the Eye contacts were NOT WELCOMING. A stranger seem as "a stranger". I knew every hymn, song and sang. Their indifference was resoundingly loud. But it could not take away my exclamation of, Amen! Their attitude and disposition reflected two bias: national and denominational.
We can be calculated in our reception.
Oh wow this is so bad...😢 Be strong in the Lord and hold on to His hand. They were so wrong for this
Praise The Lord for this experience ❤!
Praise God for the young man! One thing he could have woven in and would have helped answer the Sabbath question is that Naaman had to dip 7 times because the blessings is on the 7th time (in parallel to the blessing being on the 7th day!) (also teaches perseverance with natural remedies).
Anyway praise God some still live up to the name of “people of the Book”. May we continue to study our Bible so we can give an answer to those who ask a reason for our faith.
I went to an Adventist university (USC, Trinidad) and it seems like the entire campus greets u. Eventually I started to walk wit my head down. Some yrs ago I was in England for a couple of months, everyone greeted me at the sda church i went to. I went to the church every Sabbath and every Sabbath I was invited to someone's home for lunch (I accepted from my 2nd visit). I am currently in the US and I was welcomed, but i did experience the offering collection twice as well, just as he did, with the kids, etc..never experienced that before. the detailed offering paper is usually for members and we know what it means. For example, if u want to give money to missionary missions or to children's education, etc. I'm glad u had a better experience at the end. I've been Adventist all my.life we r too welcoming 😅
My friend brought her non Adventist male interest to church.He,came many times but I notice hes been missing for a while.I contacted him,and asked why isnt he been comming to church.He said they are weirdos😂.No one has,ever greeted him or have spoken to him.He said,...Your church has,3 pastors and not one of them ever reached out or greeted or welcome him.He also said the members just look at him funny and kept on their merry sabbath way😂.He also said, I quote "I am Baptist and there is no way a visitor would come in and be treated like that." I said bro dont feel bad..I have been comming here for over 25 yrs and some of these heathens still looking at me like a dirty old rag and never say hello or smile.They will greet the person beside me then,keep on going 😂😂😂.Remnant church please do better cuz you know better.Stop scoping the benches to see which member has on a bracelet,wedding ring,lipgloss or a necklace and make your visitors feel welcome.
I am an SDA. Listening to this man video, I'm feeling so bad. My church in the caribbean do have greeters.Visitors need to feel welcomed.
Glad someone finally got through to him and invited him for potluck. Glad he decide to stick to it. Glad Tony told him about the real Sabbath. Glad that God still works through His flailing imperfect children. Hosea was right, sometimes God needs outsiders to make us understand Him.
Amen. Great testimony 😇
As a Seventh-day Adventist, the experience David described is a poignant fact that determines whether a visitor is a guest or an impostor. When I am not welcomed in a place, whether it is a store, an office, a church, or a house, the next thing on my mind is I am destined to exit through the door. The snobbishness that David described is typical of brothers and sisters who are not taught to love and care about each other, as in the typical family. This commentor speaks with clean and proper language throughout the show. He knows more about principles from the Holy Bible, than some Seventh-day Adventists who know mostly about church doctrines. Gracious Great God made a Church to introduce a perfect work made by Him to be given to us as imperfect people so that we may be made to be perfect by the Lord, Himself. David has likely learned that imperfect people are outside and inside the church. Therefore, the wheat and the tares should "grow" together, until the Harvester, as Jesus Christ, shall come to Earth and do the divine harvesting like never before. Our Creator deserves our whole trust in Him more than it should be passed onto other people.
He learn the Present Truth the most important true for the coming Sunday Law, may the Holy Spirit guide him..
The same thing happened to me as a new guy, though an Adventist, when I first entered my current local church. What he said should really be taken seriously.
Shalom 🙏🏽
Praise God, to God be the glory
I have seen something like that (not being talked to) in an SDA church. My Mum and I had been visiting the church. We had other not so good experiences to in other SDA churches. We need to be careful to talk to visitors and also be careful what sort of things we say to them when we do talk to them.
His experience of not being greeted is more prevalent than you think. I've been SDA since I was 12, and I've belonged to different churches over the years. The times I had to find a new church, I experienced this a lot. One time, I visited a church, and no one greeted me, said hello, or came up to me out of curiosity. I decided to stay for potluck, and I SAT AT A TABLE ALL ALONE. One lady finally came up to say hello, but when she was done, she left me there alone at the table. She didn't volunteer to sit with me or did she invite me to sit at her table. It was the rudest experience I ever had. I have been to a few SDA churches where this happened. The churches that I have transferred my membership to are churches where the greeting was wonderful. But we need to get better at greeting. If you are a deaconness, make sure this happens.
I’ve been going for two years I used to go to potluck, but I would sit alone with my family too and people would say happy sabbath, but that was it and everybody says happy sabbath and they greet me but it’s not really a fellowship. It’s just a happy sabbath. I’m going to heaven see you later and I go cause I would like to know the people I’m supposed to spend eternity in heaven with, but I don’t feel like it’s, that kind of fellowship
The refrigerator affect is real but God always send someone to make you feel welcome. Don’t go for the people go because of the perfect message which comes from the Bible and the Spirit of Prophecy.
Actually a lot of SDAs in our churches come off as unfriendly to people that we don't know. Here in Malawi a lot of people complain about our unwelcoming and cold attitude towards others. I pray that we should change in this area
Lord help to bring a difference at my local church as a Christian I've been weighed and found wanting ......In Malawi too
Same as in North America. That do not bother me as i go to serve God not man. SDA are very unwelcoming for sure.
That is a problem indeed in a lot of churches. We need to be friendlier. However, I have had very positive experiences in a number of SDA churches that made me feel the love of Jesus in people.
There are soo many things we can improve on from the guys experience..Eg.Greetings stragies and always presenting the word in a way that would bring conversion and frefreshment to the souls of the congregation..
Im Adventist, been adventist my whole life. went to a new church last week as i was moving to another city. no one spoke to me. at all.
He didn't give a time he got to church, however, I am subject to correction, his description of events (offertory, musical selection) suggest he got to worship just about the time for the divine hour message. If so, the welcome segment may have already ended. And yes, bro. Lawrence, he should keep researching, he'll know more.
You are perfectly right and this is his first visit he said nothing sabbath school we adventist we should not be quick to comdemn and critize our church
No way. Someone must always be at the door to welcome everyone, and stay there as Divine hour is taking place, as long as they can hear the Sermon. There is no excuse for this.
I am so sorry what happened to him. That does not happen in my SDA church. We have people at the door hugging everyone. So sorry
Usually it’s the opposite of what he said but that particular church should be ashamed and should reach out to the that guy and apologize
In my church they always welcome you and most times maybe even hug you. Don’t be discourage, not all SDA churches are welcoming. We definitely need to work on that.