Inside Ken Roczen's Factory Honda CR250 2 Stroke - Motocross Action Magazine
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- Опубліковано 27 жов 2019
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Motocross Action Magazine caught up with Ken Roczen's mechanic Jordan Troxell at Red Bull Straight Rhythm during the 2 Stroke only event in Pomona, California. Honda pulled out Jeremy McGrath's last Factory Honda CR250 two stroke race machine,dusted the cob webs off, and threw the #94 on it for this unique event. Check out what Jordan had to say about building this bike and making it ride-able for Kenny to race on a stretched out Supercross track. We even threw in some raw video clips of Kenny riding this amazing piece of motocross history.
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Bringing back the two smokers🔥
HRC spent enough money on this to revamp the CR250, they basically already created the 2020 CR250! BRING IT BACK I'LL BUY ONE!!!
I think that's why vilipoto got run out Yamaha didn't put any money into there trusty yz250 circa 2003ish
Please AMA and Honda Kawaski and Suzuki bring back 2strokes!!
Kalifornia won't allow it...
god no
@@Purpyboi Hoping for dirt bike traction control too?... Ya just haven't lived until you do two 40 minute plus 2 laps on a CR500 Honda!
You know Yamaha is the only company who makes two strokes
@@darsihicken3823 that's why I didn't mention them. They make 2 stroke bikes, however there 2008 models that are behind REGURGITATED by Yamaha. The only new item is BNG!
This bike was flat out barking! Congrats Ken on a hard earned and well deserved victory! 🤙
Btw the top leaders from each major japanese manufacture is attending to daytona. People should litteraly go visit them and ask a genuin question: Why are you guys not developing new two strokes.
KR94 did Showtime proud with that performance @ RBSR this year.... Bravo!!!!
I own two CR250 r I love the raw sound of them when I'm ripping
I was really, REALLY hoping that Honda actually commissioned a new build... Not digging into their collectable pieces of memorabilia such as Jeremy McGrath's actual race bike!
Heresy! Just build bikes for people to thrash, that's why we want 2T back. Secondhand smokers are ridden harder than their 4T counterparts, they have battle scars because they're been ridden longer doing things that would empty the loose change out of a 4T case.
C'mon Honda!
Aint1S
What are you talking about? 2 strokes rattle themselves apart, blow up constantly(if they’re actually ridden hard) , foul spark plugs, and who wants to mess with a carburetor anymore anyway? Yea they’re cheaper to buy and fix, but you’re doing a lot more fixing on a 2 stroke
Yeah I'd buy one! I'd have one of those self adjusting electron carbs put on too!
I’m not saying they’re not good bikes, I have a 2 stroke and a 4 stroke. They’re both good in different ways
@@JhJh-gn6dz shut you're asshole.. nothing but S H I T coming out.
@@JhJh-gn6dz that's part of the point. You can actually work on 2 strokes and it won't cost an arm and a leg! 2$moke4life
Love the look of the last generation CR.
Arguably the best 2 stroke moto bike in the world and the most valuable.together with bad ass Ken roczen it was very satisfying to watch Ken scrub that beast . Outstanding
Oh my God... It's fantastic!!!
This was a much better interview and bike break down than before, thank you for that. This is the oil we wanted and love, cheers..
Loved did this bike when it came out stock needed as usual some fixes, but nothing is ever perfect, loved seeing Kenny kill the Factory 300s haven’t cheered for Honda since RC stopped riding the 2t CR, though always a fan of La Rocco and McGrath on this bike. amazing how good these bikes are (Suzook, Yammay and Honda, KX needed allot more effort) but with updated brakes, suspension, you really have to question the cost and development of 4t for the gains, the damage to the sport and drop in sales and injuries to riders. Still amazing to see this bike, love everything about it, KR94, the team, Showa and Honda did everything right for looks to performance and respect to the era for RBSR on this bike, probably the best ever looking Honda ever, along with the 83/86/93 my fav models all rode and raced, this win was totally deserved, props and congrats. 🤙
Ever notice how everyone gushes over the 2001 a previuos motors...well if your listening that bike flat rips, those last generation cr's were missing some fine tuning but once reworked they run great...and the handling is so much better thsn the previous generations its not even comparable.
To have a brand new 2022 CR25OR two stroke in basement. Beside the 2000 I’m just about to do another redo on . Well need I say more .
It would be epic and see Mr Honda I have give over a year and a half for you to do it so it’s not a big rush :)
Thank you 🤝
Honda please go back to what you're best at?
Making the Best 2-strokes
😍🙏❤
2 strokes never die.....
Now, just for fun, go back into Honda's warehouse and bring out Johnny O's 1985 RC250 with some updates to see how it compares to today's 2 strokes. Remember the battery operated electronic power valve on those machines?
Motocross IS a two strokes thang
Wow did anyone catch him saying it has a “start switch” haha that’s cool
That shock probably cost more then the bike did brand new. Will they make more of those shocks now that they have a proven model made?
still got one of these icon 2006' CR 250. did not learn how to take it to the limit within 15 years.
Clean
Kenny needs to finish the super x season on this bike. 👍
After the event Ken said he had alot of fun on the 2 stroke but was good to be back on the 450s saying obviously theres a reason why they ride them(4stroke). What did he mean by that?
They're easier to ride, the torque curve is more linear so the power comes on smooth and torque is available at more RPMs. They also have a bit more top end speed, which is why the 450s took over the outdoors first.
Looks like a fast bike
"pretty much on pace with our normal lap times at the test track". In other words you don't need a roczen edition 2020 $12,000 4 stroke.
Actually, I've heard some of the factory 450s can be more like $70,000 to $100,000, which is crazy lol
Lol. No, you need a $100,000 plus works bike. The old works bikes had different rules, tons of one off parts, prototype stuff.
I was hoping to hear more about motor since it was able to run down the ktm 300 and other big bore kits. I don't think a stock cr 250 with v force and pipe would have
RDST might just force Honda and Kawasaki to put out a new 2 stroke, hopefully. I did see some pretty juicy parts on that bike. It looks like billet crank cases, HRC Showa A1 Kit Forks, custom Pro Circuit expansion chamber and silencer and lots of titanium bolts/pegs. Plus they're lighter compared to a 4 stroke as he mentioned. I'll bet all the internals are forged HRC parts mixed with some exotic pieces we'll never know about... like the reeds being made out of baby seal skulls.
@@Peanutdenver I do like my kx 250. It would be nice to see what the Japanese manufactures can do with well balanced fuel injected 2 stroke platform.. not just keep selling a 14 year old bike like ahamay
And I'm sure that cr is blueprinted, balanced and given custom port job amongst other things. It's just cool to hear them tell you about it
@@dormantmenace I totally agree. KTM/Husky(Beta and Gas Gas to a minor extent)have the market cornered if you want the latest and greatest in a 2 stroke. Competition from the Japanese manufactures would really push new 2 stroke technologies and invite back in customers who want a cheaper bike for racing or just riding. They can't be completely blind to this demand can they? I currently have a SX 250, but would love to buy a new KX 250! I haven't had one since my KX 85. Expensive bikes are hurting the sport imo, I know electric bikes are the future, but they look to be expensive initially and that puts us back at square one.
Ken looks great on that bike
Would conventional breakin at 16.1 add power? for some reason a stock bike can keep up with a race bike
Riding Honda!!!!
So HRC has a warehouse full of old works edition hondas? I always wondered what they did with the bikes. They should auction them off.
Your smoking crack lol
What were the lap times of the 4 strokes and the 2 strokes??
MXA already did this, and even a built 250F just edges out a built 250 two-stroke in lap times. A 450 only has more of a gap. Travis Pastrana when he was going to do Motocross of Nations also experimented with lap times between his 450 and his built 250 two-stroke. The 450 was faster but he decided to ride the two-stroke as a fan favorite.
This is proof that it’s how the bikes tuned/calibrated and the rider that matters. Did I see him out run a newer ktm at the end?😂
While I understand this is a “works” bike,it just shows, that Honda could even bring back the 2007 CR250R and be quite capable and they’d sell out in record time.
PLEASE Honda, bring back the CR lineup. I love my 1984 &1995 CR250r’s as much as my 2019 CRF250r but would be all over a new CR250 or even a CR300!
That’s cause Honda it a sweet spot on those 2005-06 2t and 05-08 450r 4T. Which is why I just can’t justify selling mine for a new bike that ways a ton more (ya, I know. Electric start, mapping, FI, blah blah blah)
Brought my 06 new love it even in stock form would kill to have another new cr
McGraths old bike..... sooooo rad,
What size the tire set???
What year did he say that bike was? 05 06? He was like "They had that technology back then" what, starters? I was confused he was talking about this bike like it was from the 1930s
Yeah that confuse me to bro!
I don’t think he was referring to a “starter” as in push button start. He was saying a start device as in traction control. I think they used a smoother ignition map when the button was pushed, not 100% on that one though.
(Kinda) McGraths ol bike too? Hellya
I doubt it as mcgrath rode the steel frames and didn't have rc power valve. The only thing that has in common with the mcgrath championship bikes is the graphic scheme and Dunlop tires.
@John Medina o shit well... good to know *thanks
Mc was racing honda part time in 05 06
Want new 2-strokes? Stop buying 4 strokes and tell them why.
Buy nothing but 2-stroke models.
They'll eventually get the message if you hit their wallets hard enough.
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WOW, that bike was 14 years old ????
What is the year of the cr ?
2005 -06
2005/06 and It's the last 2 stroke to pull the holeshot in a race vs 4 strokes. I believe it was the Phoenix SX.
Hey manufacturer's: I own only two strokes. KX100, Husqvarna 144, 2001 CR250, CR500 in a 2006 cr 250 frame, KX500 in a 2012 kx250f frame and for the street? Yamaha RZ350 and Suzuki RG500 Gamma. I have 32 expansion chambers. Four strokes are for Toyotas.
If Honda sold a new cr250 their 450 sales would be cut in half lol...
Please honda , I want a 2020 cr 250
Start switch?
Different ignition mapping for starts.
Honda needs to realize they could single handedly bring back 2 stroke pro motocross simply with the CR250. The bike is phenomenal! The rules of the AMA have to be changed back and also they need to be fair. If you race a 250 then you race the 250 class whether it be a 2 or 4 stroke. If the 4 strokes loose that just further proves they are slower and can’t compete. As far as the EPA goes they are not involved because KTM,Yamaha and Husky still make a 2 stroke. We need to stir up and even cause conflict in pro motocross which will attract a lot of attention to the sport and changing this ruling will do it. Honda is loosing multi millions by not having these 2 strokes out there including the 80,125 & 250. The time is now and it’s going to take someone like Honda to stand up and fight back and change these rules. The 4 strokes can still be sold and used for off road and the woods which they are great for. This entire 4 stroke thing has just been sad for the sport and silly. I have had kids in my shop and they like to hear the bikes run because it’s exciting and it’s always the 2 strokes they want to hear as well as letting them rip the throttle a few times. The reason this is so important is we have to teach our youth. Motocross came from a very tough blue collar background yet the only ones that can afford them now are the wealthy and upper middle class so that means our best riders are not even out there racing. This has to be changed. We need the Bob Hannahs, Rick Johnson’s and Jeff Wards back on the track fighting it out. We need to hear the loud screams from the bikes in the turns.
Honda ahhh the best
Why is a man like Ken R not racing the CR250? Was he forced to race a 4 stroke? Having a top rider on a 2 stroke is what we need. I wish Jett would race one as well as Cooper W, Chase and Eli T. It would easily bring back 2 strokes and Nike sells would be through the roof
Yet the japanese allows KTM to own that market. I can promise that if they produce two strokes again people would que in line to buy one.
Two strokes are definitely a European led market for championships won
That's a bad bitch
Should have left the regular front end on it
Next year three wheeler class?
Am I the only one who’s gonna talk shit about that guy’s sunglasses?
King bike just amazing . Simpel . NOt much Racing part . BuT beast engine . . RC .SAID . CR250 BEAST .
Cool bike, but why to use a 92/93 graphic bike instead the itself 2005/2006????
KZ94
I just need to know what those shades are called
I believe they are the 100% S3
From Dirk Digler
It will take a pro on a 2 stroke to reverse all the rules. Either that or a petition. There is to much pride involved on those who made these changes so I would just like to see a new organization
HONDA CR250 1994?? Yes Or No?
Why doesn't Honda make a 2-stroke anymore ???
App Man, The EPA deems 2cycle emissions not to be safe!
@@jimmadonna1436 Thanks...
@@TimTheMusicMan any time!
Factory cr 250 👊💦
So whats the power like? How long is the powerband? Is it easy to control? Hows the bottom and top end? Is it a screamer? How does the suspension compare to stock modern? Will it holeshot with 450s? All questions nobody will honestly answer because you ride a 4 stroke and shut up.
If only Ronnie Mac could get this level of factory support
Kenny Light reminds me not of beer but of Bobby Light/Rob Dyrdek
this guy acts as if this is some strange foreign technology, its a two stroke factory works bike and would probably still be competitive at any track. He acts as if its ancient and slow
Its so hard to ride
It's hard when you've gone soft on four strokes
2006 fairings and rear numberplates, 1990 front number plate, 2021 Crf 450 front fender, what the hell is going on there?? Pick a damn year and stick to it. It’s all over the place
4 stroke suck
What I don't understand all these over priced 4 strokes with electric start and every other goodies but why?, Plus the price 2 strokes way cheaper easy to work on and just as fast and a double priced 450. Yes screw the EPA, bring the 2 stroke back. What happens when liberals get into motocross.
4 strokes suck
Those rc valve engines were the worst