Test flying Super Cub post repair! Should we put VGs on it? + repair process
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- Опубліковано 26 лип 2018
- It’s been a long road to get this airplane flying again!
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That little knowing smile at 4:01, priceless.
Love seeing older stuff come back to life, whether it's cars, trucks, motorcycles or airplanes. Nice work they did on that one! 👍
You forgot Old Locomotives....LOL
@@markfrench8892 - Yeah, good call there. Big Boy is rolling the rails again!! ua-cam.com/video/tjKuXqrOM2U/v-deo.html
Nothing better than a craftsman who takes pride in his work.
I found your videos and fell in love with cubs because of this plane. I was heart sick when it got damaged. It is so great to see back in the air. Congratulations on getting it back together. She looks absolutely gorgeous! Without a doubt, has another 60 years in her. I can't wait to see more.
That's how I found the channel too.
What I love about your videos, apart from the wonderfully produced flying footage, is that they always tell a story. It's a great reminder that flying is a human endeavor, and that these human stories are what make flying worth it.
Attentive Dragon +1
I remember that old video where you did touch and go's on a field and got asked for a bbq. Good times. Nice to see it's flying again. Great bit of dedication!
As a long time supporter, it is awesome to see the Super Cub back in the air
Great to see Burlington again - something about your videos there, just hits the sweetspot for aviation vids. Hats off to Cubcrafters too for helping get FFKO back in the air!
From experience always more work repairing an airplane than you first glance when before you buy, positive! Cubs are worth it!!...nice plane!
Haha, I didn't realize I'd been watching your channel for over two years now, Steve. Time flies. But I remember watching the video when you discovered the cub got munched. Congrats on the resurrection of an old friend.
My friend installed VGs on his 185 for back country flying, he said they're great. They reduced his speed a bit at slow flight, but he said the great thing is the added aileron authority at the slower speeds.
Brandon B same
I'm so happy to see FKO flying again! Watching the video after the prop strike was gut-wrenching. So nice that it turned out OK in the end.
So happy to see this aircraft back!
As a pilot & engineer, YES on the VG's, especially for a Super Cub. There is no down side, just put them pretty far forward to get full benefits.
I just rembered that the first video I watched on your channel was the one where you showed the damage of the prop strike. It is just amazing to see how far the channel has come in the last three years and I'm so excited for the future!
I love to rewatch these old episodes. Steve in the cub = the good old days 😄
A Cub was the first aircraft I ever flew in, with my father at the controls, when I was about 4 or 5. That was a LONG time ago, and I still love airplanes.
So nice to see her flying again!
One thing I learned from restoring classic cars that I think is true for aircraft as well: Stock never goes out of style!
Having worked as a Buyer for the AOG/Spare Parts Procurement at DeHavilland/Bombardier, the contract was, as long as there were five of a certain aircraft still flying anywhere in the world, they would have the availability of the parts for Operators....Don't know if that applies to other manufacturers, but back then (I've been semi-retired since 2002).......It's great to know how to do your own repairs.
@@elainethorne4344 New cal aviation is a good source for DeHavilland parts.
So glad to see this Cub flying again!
A friend and I used to have from five to eight Super Cubs towing gliders every day at the Air Force Academy in Colorado Springs. Also leased a few more to various glider operations so maintenance was a continuous task. I have about 6000 hours logged in Super Cubs and no telling how much more that never made it into the books. Most of our cubs were fitted with the 180hp O-360 engines. We bought a number of tired and damaged Cubs and rebuilt them.
Looks great, kudos to the whole team that put FFKO back together.
First plane I ever flew and loved it ,as I still love to fly it today , my favorite nothing beats a Super Cub.
Loved watching the aircraft come together and you flying it. The mechanical side of flying seems just as rewarding as the actual flying when watching a project like that come together
The project was a blast - you can find some non-pro vids captured during restoration: ua-cam.com/video/j-LsQoVeGyk/v-deo.html at BigWowDice. Flying FKO is awesome, but putting it together was equally as rewarding. Cheers.
Thanks for sharing those! A great watch, well done on the restoration!
Very happy to see that cub back in the air.
So happy to see that Foxtrot Kilo Oscar is back! She looks fantastic.
Yes for VG's. I installed them on my Carbon Cub EX2 and couldn't ask for a better flying plane at low speeds. They were very easy to install as they came with a layout template to get the positioning just right.
I am irrationally happy over The Cub returning to life. Great work, Dennis and crew!!
Robert Thatcher Thank you... especially Dennis for his guidance and know how.
Been following since your channels inception. I was sad to see the prop strike but so glad to see the Cub back in the air.
Great job on this one -- sharp editing, and great flow in the story. Been watching your stuff for a while, and this one stands out! Super work as always.
You're so much more relaxed flying this aircraft, Steve. You can tell by the way you hold the controls, a sure sign of the concentration levels. Compare this vid with the others, especially your first flights in this particular plane. Had the opportunity to fly C310s with and without the VG kit, what a difference! Definitely improved handling and performance, but does that then deminish a certain character - depends on the pilot I guess... Keep on posting.
I've flown my PA-18 21 years. Best mod = Boher Prop. 2nd = bushwheels. 3rd = micro VGs. 4th = Steve's Vented Brakes.
The VG's surprisingly do not slow down your cruise and essentially weigh nothing. It essentially eliminates nose drop in power off stalls, and I've never run out of elevator control. High angle of attack maneuvers at altitude, with cruise or full power will shock you- it can maintain much greater than 17 degrees relative to the horizon. I don't think VG's allow you to "fly slower", but they do allow you to fly closer to stall speed with confidence. With considerable power you can slow down a little bit more, but your nose is so high it is impracticable to use,in a short field landing, in my opinion. The vented brakes gives me powerful control and are trouble free. They were a significant improvement in my plane. Your cub looks beautiful! Congrats.
It's awesome to see that great plane back in the air! Congratulations...
I'm so happy to see this plane back
So happy
I am happy to see the cub back and flying.
THIS Cub and a few other variables led me to complete my primary training in a J-3 Cub. So happy to see it flying again and thanks for your advice that tailwheel training is the route of core flying skills!
Great video, Steve! Thanks for sharing.
I love how much attention to detail went into FFKO. It looks brand new :)
Ready for another couple of decades.
Awesome! Glad to see it back in the air!
I ‘ve been waiting for this video for so long, the cub looks amazing, fantastic work.
Great video Steve been waiting a long time for this one. So great to see her in the air again!
Great to see her back in the air! Great job guys 👍🏻
I'm really happy the Super Cub is flying again.
Man that is so encouraging. Love to see a beautiful old cub transformed into a Updated Sweet Cub like this! Way cool!
Yes! The Cub again 😍
Just stumbled upon your video. Fantastic AC. Congratulations on getting her airworthy again.
That was awesome! Nice to see her flying again!
So good to see her back in the air. Well done ! Go with the V G's
Glad she's back! Thank you for posting.
Glad to see the airplane back! I somehow missed it in your list of videos? Have fun!
Awesome! Such great news that FFKO it’s in the sky again and even much better than ever, please make more videos of your flights in the super cub! Saludos from Chile !
I was watching one of your older videos flying this airplane not too long ago and was wondering what happened to it. It's cool to see it back and all fixed up!
This is great documentation of true passion for aviation, FlightChops. Congrats to everyone who contributed to the successful rebuild.
Nice to meet you at Oshkosh Steve! Maybe I'll be able to see you again next year!
I have been waiting for this video for too long.
IT LIVES!!!
Steve, such and awesome video telling the story of this plane that clearly holds a place in your life. I was wondering how the restoration process was going and the this video was released! As always, great camera work, fantastic content, and an even better story behind it all. Keep sharing your aviation adventures! We all look forward to the next one!!
Ethan D Smyth Hey Ethan... although nowhere near Steve’s quality - you can find some behind the scenes vid showing the progress here: ua-cam.com/video/j-LsQoVeGyk/v-deo.html - BigWowDice. We are very thankful Steve told the story of FKO. So many of us got hooked on taildraggers because of this old girl.
Nice work on restoration, I love it...good landings too...
Great video Steve! It is awesome to see this Super Cub back on it's wings! :)
Finally catching up on some of your videos - really enjoyed this one, great to see the old cub back in action! Nice storytelling as always!
Really enjoyed that - love seeing stuff rebuilt and brought back to life - esp a classic like that! Love seeing the inner workings of the rebuild as well. Would watch a whole video on just that!
pauld5530 Hey Paul, although nowhere Steve’s quality, we shot some B roll video during the restoration. You can find at BigWowDice: ua-cam.com/video/j-LsQoVeGyk/v-deo.html. Cheers.
So glad to see a classic rise like the Phoenix. Thanks
Great episode. I loved the flying mixed in with the rebuild footage
Curt Lewis although nowhere near Steve’s quality, we shot some B roll vids during restoration - if interested you can find at BigWowDice: ua-cam.com/video/j-LsQoVeGyk/v-deo.html
Hallelujah the super cub is saved and back in the sky!... see the chops smash the like button because great content is to follow.
Thanks for enjoying the back catalogue :).
I try really hard to tell evergreen stories, even though UA-cam tends to stop sharing videos that are more than 2 weeks old :P
Thank you steve....hope to see you at osh...but if not I understand.
Super Cubs are almost always worth rebuilding!
VGs no or go? That's a tough one really.
All I know is what I've experienced. I flew a J3 prior to VGs, then after VGs and while the numbers weren't drastically different, it did "Feel" more stable in power off and power on stalls, it seemed to feel more stable in steep turns as well but that may a false sense of added stability (not my J3 BTW).
I would vote yes for adding VGs but that's just me, I'm not the one paying for it or the one that may live to regret it even though I can't imagine going wrong with VGs, meaning it can't hurt, it just may not prove to be a drastic improvement.
In my opinion, just a couple of knots slower stall and even a slight amount of added stability is worth it!! It could actually save a life at some point!!
Great to see this bird in such great shape and hats off to all those who put so much work and pride into the restoration!!
TreeTop .Videography VG's can hurt, they reduce Va.
Thank you so very much for doing this. What an amazing Story
Never underestimate the role of Pizza and beverages, and the camaraderie they bring with them, in the restoration AND the creation of so many awesome things…😎
great to see it flying again
Great to see the cub flying again.
A shame I only have one Like.
The plane with a special place in my heart is Piper Cherokee C-FKKF. First flight, first solo, the bulk of my flight training. A hard decision on my flight test when she failed run-up, but respect from the examiner for making the call. A crusty old bird with a ridiculous number of hours in the log (over 15,000), but she'll get you there, and home, every time.
Double-like!
Would love to see an extended cut of the restoration, if you've got the footage. I am fascinated by all the details of the challenges they had to face and choices they made in getting this lovely plane updated and back in the air. (Me being someone interested in vintage planes & cars, and in the middle of a car restoration).
Rob McKaughan Hey Rob - although nowhere near Steve’s quality, we did shoot some B roll. You can find it at BigWowDice: ua-cam.com/video/j-LsQoVeGyk/v-deo.html. We tried to keep it as true to original, but couldn’t resist adding some modern day conveniences. Cheers.
She is one happy bird now.
Go with the VGs. They really do make a difference. I have a PA-12 and have flown it with and without. With power, I can drag the tailwheel with the mains about 20" off the ground. It improves stall characteristics as well.
Yep...VG's for sure. Make her more fun than she already is!
Congratulations on a job well done
Best way of measuring the performance difference, if you can't do a proper scientific measurement, is to get several people to do several flights each, both before and after you put the VGs on, but *don't tell them* when you do it. In fact, don't even mention the VGs, just have them rate the performance of the aircraft after every flight. That will eliminate any psychological factors, and give you a much better understanding of the true performance difference.
I have a fair amount of time in a PA-12 with a 150 Lycoming. Must be very similar. I never flew a Super Cub but maybe the only difference is the width for the rear seat. I found very different stall characteristics depending on weight and how the horizontal stabilizer was trimmed. That said, beautiful job done by the guys. Keep them flying!
Yes to Vortex Generators, not only are you blessed with short TO and landings but it also gives you that bigger margin of safety. Reducing the aircrafts limitations can only be good :)
Your videos are awesome keep up the good work 😁
What I like the most about your videos is how much us non-pilots get to see real world and real people stories. I always considered flying an airplane to be a thing only millionaires could do. But, this video shows me that flying a beautiful cub is for regular old delivery pizza-eating people like me too.
Hell yes!
Yes. Install the VGs. Great episode.
Your video made me think about how I surely respect those people who have the knowledge, skills, abilities, and wherewithal to put airplanes back together again like that. All I can do is fly them. I used to think that was something. Not so much anymore. I tip my hat to all those people who actually keep airplanes flying.
As to VGs, we did that mod on our 7GCBC Citabria about 15 years ago. It changed the low speed handling massively. Stall dropped by 8mph, though cruise speed dropped by 4; It retains full aileron control into a stall now; It's very hard to get into a spin, but once in, it likes to stay in, and we can touch the tailwheel with the mains still 3 to 4 feet in the air.
flyingfiddler you bring up some of the same reasons we are resisting the mod. FKO currently has a decent cruise speed and I prefer to touch with main vs tail. The mains are designed for bigger impacts. Thank you for the feedback.
Yeah, for us it was definitely a net positive, especially for ski flying, but there are some trade-offs as well. It also doesn't snap roll very well any more.
YES! So cool to see the resurrection! Thanks to Rob Dennis and Cubcrafters for bringing her back.
(damn... now I want pizza!)
Loved this video!
As others have commented, I tend to favor "No VGs." A basic Super Cub in stock setup is a really nice airplane. I even like the no spinner look...
The wiring and interior cleanup looks great!
Glad to see good ol' KO back in the air.
Hi JP!
Excellent Excellent,a fantastic video of a restoration youv'e done a fantastic job so interesting
Great to see her in the air again :-)
Definitely Install the VG's. I think it would add to the performance plus they look pretty nice in my opinion.
Like they were saying earlier, do a cost-benefit analysis and see what is the best option for the plane! It's not everyday you see a mostly original Super Cub, but V-Gs are an awesome piece of tech!
HappyBappyAviation and there is the dilemma - FKO works great the way it is... plus it makes you work harder to get better and stay sharp. Good point on being original.
This being 2018 and all, I'd go with vortex alternators instead. jus' sayin' All kidding aside, the plane looks beautiful again, Dennis and co. did a fantastic job. Not a pilot, but I hitched a ride in a Stearman recently on Long Island. Great fun, love your channel. Thanks fer takin' us along...
Vgs will make a difference with slow flight. Not only will it help lower that stall speed allow for a steeper angle of attack, but also improve aileron response at slower speeds.
Another really cool mod that would drastically improve slow flight, is the Alaska airframes flaps mod. Then you’ll have to go with bigger tires to help combat the tail first...
Got to love the Super Cub!! Great video as usual!! I say get the VG!! 👍
Definitely a dream of mine to fly these one day
Awesome video!!
Gorgeous!!!
Good to see the Super Cub back in the air! I think VG’s would be awesome on it, along with some big tires. It seemed the Dynon wasn’t operating on your flight. Was there an issue with it?
Hope I didn't freak you out too much at OSH yesterday. For some reason I thought you like the Torono Raptors...lol Have a good time!
Absolutely on the VG's... The wing design of the cub will do very well with VG's installed, you should be able to drop the stall speed by 10mph easily.
Go for the VGs!
I love your videos. I'm going to get my ppl next year. Was wondering which do you prefer stick or yoke?
Good job 👏🏻
There are a lot other things I would do before VGs if it were an experimental. Since you are locked into archaic certified rules, then VGs are probably a good way to go.