The SmallHD Indie 5 is $900 for their Black Friday sale right now. The Portkeys is $750 new. When not on sale, that's a ~$600 difference, but when the difference is $150, the SmallHD is the better buy. It feels weird to be priced how it is at $750. Anyone willing to spend that much on a monitor will probably pick up a used, refurbished, B-stock, or on sale SmallHD. Theres just not a good enough incentive not to.
This Portkeys without wireless control is 600$, and it is 2000 nits, so it is fare to compare with Cine 5, not Indie. And btw all 7 and 5 inch SmallHDs are not true 10bit panels too, 8+2, as this Portkeys. And additional points go to Portkeys for their camera control options - it is free, and they support much more cameras. With SmallHD you need Ultra model, and in addition to that you need to buy separate license to control camera, and license 200$+
@@igorzhidkov1957 Ultimately, a monitor is meant for verifying composition, exposure through scopes, and focus. 10 bit color is completely unnecessary for this and becomes a way to upsell someone on something. 10 bit color is important for a grading process but not monitoring. The brightness is important though.
@@igorzhidkov1957 I can see arguments for both sides. If you are a solo operator and buy your own equipment the Portkeys might be a better fit. If you are on bigger sets and work with other people in the industry maybe SmallHD is a better choice.
A technical question. It's based on your exposing to skin tone not the middle grey. Does this mean one could basically set custom White Balance based on the preferred skin tone chip instead of neutral grey?
@@JustinPhillip Well, people, let's say me as for an example, so far have exposed and set the custom WB per neutral grey. Now when you brought up to expose, thus also setting the custom WB on the skin tones, opens the opportunity to think differently and find does it work for what I do. At least got necessary confirmation and will look forward experimenting. Thus, we conclude, you made a good video.
Trying to decide between grabbing two Portkeys (this one and the 7 inch) for my A7S3 and the FX6 or saving up and grabbing a smallhd cine 5 then a 7 inch down the line. Would you recommend the Portkeys for the cost?
YES! I was the one who asked for this comparison! Thank you so much!
Awesome. Thank you!
Your video with the Sony FX6 narcissist character lives rent free in my head, FYI.
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Very detailed and informative, I think I'll pick up the BM5 IV WR monitor. Thanks!
You’re welcome!
Best channel on UA-cam 😊
Thanks!
The SmallHD Indie 5 is $900 for their Black Friday sale right now. The Portkeys is $750 new. When not on sale, that's a ~$600 difference, but when the difference is $150, the SmallHD is the better buy. It feels weird to be priced how it is at $750. Anyone willing to spend that much on a monitor will probably pick up a used, refurbished, B-stock, or on sale SmallHD. Theres just not a good enough incentive not to.
Fair logic.
This Portkeys without wireless control is 600$, and it is 2000 nits, so it is fare to compare with Cine 5, not Indie. And btw all 7 and 5 inch SmallHDs are not true 10bit panels too, 8+2, as this Portkeys. And additional points go to Portkeys for their camera control options - it is free, and they support much more cameras. With SmallHD you need Ultra model, and in addition to that you need to buy separate license to control camera, and license 200$+
@@igorzhidkov1957 Ultimately, a monitor is meant for verifying composition, exposure through scopes, and focus. 10 bit color is completely unnecessary for this and becomes a way to upsell someone on something. 10 bit color is important for a grading process but not monitoring. The brightness is important though.
@@igorzhidkov1957 I can see arguments for both sides. If you are a solo operator and buy your own equipment the Portkeys might be a better fit. If you are on bigger sets and work with other people in the industry maybe SmallHD is a better choice.
Wow! Port keys pulling out the big guns. Very detailed and excellent video JP!
Thank you! 🙌🏼
Great video! another budget option could be the Atomos Shinobi II which also includes El Zone, but not as "pro" as these ones of course!
Oh i didnt know they have it as well
Also exists on the Ninja V. EL Zones for $599. Was going to ask if you had any comparison thoughts with the Atomos products
A technical question. It's based on your exposing to skin tone not the middle grey. Does this mean one could basically set custom White Balance based on the preferred skin tone chip instead of neutral grey?
I mean yeah, IMO thats what people should be doing. I dont ever expose for middle grey i expose for skin tones
@@JustinPhillip Well, people, let's say me as for an example, so far have exposed and set the custom WB per neutral grey. Now when you brought up to expose, thus also setting the custom WB on the skin tones, opens the opportunity to think differently and find does it work for what I do. At least got necessary confirmation and will look forward experimenting. Thus, we conclude, you made a good video.
Trying to decide between grabbing two Portkeys (this one and the 7 inch) for my A7S3 and the FX6 or saving up and grabbing a smallhd cine 5 then a 7 inch down the line. Would you recommend the Portkeys for the cost?
Man thats a hard call. It will be significantly more money to have camera control on a smallhd.
@ you’d say the Portkeys is good value for camera control and what it offers? It’s really coming down to those two brands for me.
very nice review, thanks! do you know if the 7" version (BM7 II DS) has also the new Cinenorm ??
I would hope it would be, but i have no knowledge of that monitor. It should say on PortKeys website
@ doesn’t seems like it has it.
Maybe next version
💥Yes, it does with a firmware update
You're welcome💥
@@joronbrice thank you!!
Maybe they should state that in their product page
Cool stuff but how is this EL Zone copy not patent infringement? 😄
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sucks my lh5p ii is not compatible with cinenorm
Yes it does
@JustinPhillip oh sick!
@@JustinPhillip I do not see a link tho