Try Guys - SNL
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- Опубліковано 11 вер 2024
- A CNN broadcast is interrupted by breaking news of the Try Guys' (Mikey Day, Bowen Yang, Andrew Dismukes) response video to Ned Fulmer.
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Let’s be honest at the real reason why SNL approved this sketch. SNL still hasn’t addressed the sexual harassment and misconduct allegations, of course they are going to poke fun at three men holding their former business partner accountable for his actions.
Imagine calling a year-long affair with an engaged subordinate “a consensual kiss at a Harry styles concert.” Tell me this was written by Ned’s friend at SNL without telling me this was written by Ned’s friend at SNL.
Her name is Alison Gates
@@ToxicatedLum thank you!
@@sarah4875 you’re as bright as the black hole and twice as dense.
Arguably that is what is, though. I think people are stretching the owner part too far. It's not illegal to have a relationship with your boss. Some companies ask you declare it (There are issues of both nepotism and a power dynamic at play, that can be agreed on.) But ultimately if they do not feel pressured or the like, then it is not an issue.
The core issue is people not wanting to work with someone who cheats on their wife, and it is wrapped with the company's brand. That harms the whole brand.
If he wasn't married or in a relationship, it wouldn't have been a big deal.
If he cheated with someone outside of the company, it wouldn't have been a big deal, but it would be a bigger deal than the first case
Both combined have made it explode, perhaps a bit out of proportion in my opinion.
@@ToxicatedLum I thought it was Will Stephen
Ned was LITERALLY the best person to make fun of in this situation. It wasn’t just because he cheated on his wife with an employee, but this man made his ENTIRE personality and life about his wife for a decade! That’s why people are talking.
It's not the SNL audiences obligation to know the dynamics of a bunch of overpaid beta males.
Exactly! I don't think they misunderstood the situation, after all Ned has a friend who is a writer in SNL...
Most didn't get the skit - 😂😂😂
the whole point was that no one knows ned and no no gives a shit
@@jackhughes1234no one who watches SNL knows Ned- but lots of people don’t watch SNL.
I was brought here because Eugene announced his departure, which is no biggie, but I’m watching a interview with Anthony Padilla and they were talking about the skit never even knew this existed. I am so done with SNL.
literally same 💀
lmao me too
same here I'd never seen this skit before and came here after that video. God this is bullshit
I’m an avid SNL watcher and seriously had no clue this existed until I went to search the guys up to binge some videos and this was an option to click on 😭😭
Same lol
Shoutout to whoever wrote this sketch for misunderstanding the entire situation
Alison Gates is his friend who works for SNL - so her
Who cares of the entire situation
Also his friend Will
Fr, we all know who has friends here 🙄🙄🙄 & they wonder why they can't connect to younger gens. The problem starts with *your* writers purposefully misrepresenting the truth
It's almost like it's making fun of people caring about the entire situation in the first place....
Anyone else remember Ned bragging about how one of his buddies from Yale was a writer at SNL?
Yeah, I'll just leave it at that.
i didn't remember until seeing these comments, but yeah that makes sense. also SNL just isn't funny and likes to downplay victims of SA so this tracks for them.
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which one? let's name & shame, people, there was no excuse for SNL execs to greenlight this obvious conflict of interest.
@@dietotaku dan bulla, i believe. he was in a sketch comedy group with him.
@@dietotaku Conflict of interest...? This isn't a legal case, this is a "comedy" (though how funny this was is debatable). Should SNL not satirize political matters due to a "conflict of interest" (since most, if not all of them are Democratic-leaning)?
That moment you look up the writer for the skit and it's one of Ned's best friends 💀💀💀
Omg!
So gross. They obviously share the trashy standards they have in common
but wasn't it actually just that they happened to go to the same school?
I see the Try Guys paid a lot of money to have this spammed, despite no evidence he has a friend was responsible for this sketch, let alone even works at SNL.
The other try guys have had lots of videos with them participating in child grooming behaviors while Ned is popular with and attracted to adult women.
No he’s not. Y’all see shit online and roll with it with out verifying anything
Wonder what Ariel thinks of SNL downplaying the destruction of her marriage.
Who is Ariel and why should we care?
@@AnthonyJMurphAriel is Ned’s wife and we should care because she’s the woman who Ned cheated on
@@chaoticgaybirb2734 and why should I care about Ariel? I am sorry that she was put through this, but Ariel probably doesn't care about some random guy on the internet and what he thinks. Its also a PRIVATE matter.
yes we should totally be making fun of keith, zach and eugene for being angry at their friend after he essentially ruined their business they took years to build and not the man who had an affair with his employee (sexual misconduct !!!!!) and broke up two decade long relationships, including his own in which he had two children ! ur so right snl
Ive been watching them since the buzzfeed days so the fact that SNL let this slide and a room (most likely) filled with men thought this was funny just shows how atrocious how it brings to light inappropriate workplace relations and i feel like slides sexual harassment under the rug. Everyone needs to remember we domt know the full story with ned and alex cause ned was in a place of power.
Fr. They easily could have made the skit about Ned, but instead they made fun of an incredibly professional announcement that was made to deescalate the situation
didn't get the joke
They are making fun of all these idiots who care about the fucking try guys this much
The joke is that anyone gives a shit about them.
Calling a year-long affair with a subordinate which results in the betrayal your wife and children *"a consensual kiss"* is like calling a hit-and-run "driving the speed limit"
A friend of Ned writes for SNL
The fact you find this entertainment is the real crime...I got 30 seconds in and couldn't handle it...i have sneaking suspicion is the fact you care about someone's interpersonal bs of the try guys ..is the joke they're making
Heard of grindr before? Pretty much half the married men you know are on there.
It’s giving “Back in my day I used to grab my secretarys a** and she liked it”
The woman in the affair is an associate producer... she is not a subordinate. Actually Ned would be the subordinate in this hierarchy.
Any way we can get UA-cam to bring back the dislike bar for just this video?
It's currently 141K dislikes (i've got a chrome extension that shows it)
Exactly. All I can see are the likes and it really pisses me off that much people thought it was funny...
@@g5g566 really?
@@toby7582 yup
@@anxietatema that's pretty neat.
Shoutout to the writer whose friends with Ned and manipulated the entire situation.
@@W3irdWombatthat’s not the point. The point is the treatment those victims have gotten after coming out… which has allegedly been very poor.
i don't think another piece of media has ever so succinctly captured the vibe of 'The writer is cheating on his wife as we speak' so perfectly before
No joke. I literally feel so bad for any woman connected to SNL at this point.
@@Becca_Lynn lmao
The writer is actually one of neds besties which makes so sm sense
HAHAHAHHA
@@karrissmyth8236 WHAT?! You're joking.
Keith, Zach and Eugene do not deserve any hate for their response to the situation. They handled it so, so professionally and responsibly and the last thing they deserve is backlash from freaking SNL
I mean, except they knew about it for about a year.
@@jspur22 they literally didn’t? 💀
@@jspur22 they explained in their video that fans had to inform them about the scandal and they didn’t know until Labor Day weekend of this year
@@jspur22 oh? and where'd you get that info from? your little fantasy?
I found the sketch pretty funny, not because they were making fun of the situation, but because the CNN reporter was being a super fan of the group. I guess when you don't really care about anything the Try Guys do, this kind of skit is pretty funny. I guess I am detached enough from this group that I just don't care about the detail and just find the spoof funny.
Ned was not fired because he “kissed someone”. He was fired because as a co-founder of the company, he was sleeping with one of his subordinates and not disclosing it to HR. This opened up the remaining Try Guys to potential lawsuits. They didn’t overreact, instead taking weeks to do a thorough internal review before making any of it public. The Try Guys’ response is a great example of a stand up company.
Just to add about not disclosing it to HR, he WAS HR for the company. They wear multiple hats and one of his was that he was the HR lead
It's an SNL skit It's not that serious
Your name is Abby though. That disqualifies you from everything I’m sorry.
@@justinfernandez2658 I think the reason why people got upset is because Ned Fulmer's friend is the one writing this skit.
Yeah this is messed up.
Anyone else come here from Anthony's "I Spent a Day with" video and reminded of how shitty this skit is?
Yeah. I am after seeing Zach and Keith!
me too! this my first time hearing about "the snl moment". i'm surprised and glad only watched this now
Literally. I respected the guys so much for how they handled the situation. I just think it’s so messed up how cheating is just brushed off as no big deal nowadays
If Ned's friend wrote this, I guess now we know how Ned thinks about all this.
this is exactly what I was thinking.
It came out the his friend Will is one of the writers of this skit
@@MrHalogamer247 where is this source for this claim?
that's a good point.
@@JenningsFilmsinc the writer promoted it on his story and he and ned follow one another
If I was Ariel, and Ned got his friend to write this, this’d be the push I’d need to divorce him
Really..him macking on a coworker and cheating on you 4x over wouldnt give you the push? 🤡
@@TechTails I know, but someone decided to hound them with questions and Ariel said they were working on working things out, so it seemed like if that was all, they were gonna stay together
@@reggiereggiesauce5755 The video where they got papped seemed really staged tbh.
I think the writers knew this situation was silly even though we were all paying attention, and made a joke about that. It’s funny, please relax
@@mirandaking1618 oh ned definitely called that guy to tell them they'd be there. ariel seemed very confused though
how did you manage to be more embarrassing than ned in this situation lmao
It’s actually shocking 🧐
Aw, tell us you're an emotionally unstable Try Guys fan without telling us you're an emotionally unstable Try Guys fan
@@crassmonkey18 weak bait
@@crassmonkey18 considering you’re all up in the comments of this video, I wouldn’t be talking crap about anyone else 😂
@@crassmonkey18 You sound quite emotionally unstable.
“jay z cheated on Beyoncé, it’s going to be okay” are you kidding me? How dismissive can you be to someone being PUBLICLY cheated on.
Also the fact that the media gave Beyonce so much shit about getting back with Jay-Z, like which is it? Is cheating a big deal or not?
@@lonelyfroggy5787 the whole point is that none of this is breaking news and any of our business. We are getting dumber as a nation when we are putting so much effort into Jay-Z or Ned's life. Are they both dogs and wrong? Sure, but neither of them affect your life.
Thanks for letting us know you don’t see anything wrong with secret workplace relationships between a powerful individual and a subordinate, SNL, real classy
It’s called skeet skeet skeet
🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
This
I know right wwwtffff was this
I know right wwwtffff was this
This is disgusting behavior!!! We’ve been trying so hard to get men to hold other men accountable for cheating and once they do they immediately get made fun of, the way the try guys handled this was incredibly well and my heart aches for Ariel and the boys, and Will.
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It's not that they're trivializing cheating by men, it's because they're a stupid little internet flash in the pan who are using a scandal I. Their midst and blowing it up for clout.
@@ImNotaRussianBot way to show you have NO idea what happened outside of what SNL tells you
Cheating isn’t the worlds problem, it’s YOUR problem. Most of the time, women just aren’t providing what the man needs anymore.
@@ALXMARTIN No Bitches?
you can tell ned's friend wrote this one
Good thing his friend is funny. This skit is hilarious, you'd think he was a serial murderer lmao
@@streetrat48 Serial Murderer? What is this referring to?
The thing is he has a friend from Yale that writes for snl
@@lizzy_cute_8590 hmmmm 🧐
*now go cry*
This has to be one of the most unbelievably embarrassing skits snl has ever made. Imagine missing the point of the situation this much 💀
No it's not. No they didn't
No it's not
@@darvizo666shut up Ned, go to therapy or something
Why do we care about the Try Guys? That is the joke. This is NOT news
@@AnthonyJMurph no the writer of the skit is friends with Ned so it is 100% missing the point they are trying to say that they over reacted
Lmao you can tell Ned got his friend to do this one. Imagine making fun of the try guys and NOT Ned in this situation. The gross abuse of power and treating it like it’s nothing is disgusting.
If anything, he's ruining SNL for the younger generations now as well, so SNL will die out eventually, it's already falling apart. Good job, Ned!
@@hagelslag9312 snl has been bad since Obama was in office. An I’m not blaming Obama the just jokes weren’t funny at all.
@@ScoscobabyOGO Thanks Obama 😭
"Imagine..." I've noticed that every comment on here attacking Ned sounds like it comes from a child and/or idiot.
Ned is the only Try Guy to not support child abuse and that's why they're TRYING to drag his name through the mudd.
To take the attention off themselves.
@@Freakazoid12345 I’m sorry what in the actual fuck are you on about mate
This easily could have been a funny sketch pointing out that Ned was constantly trying to act like he was completely obsessed with being a husband, or the fact that he seemed kind of smarmy ... instead they decided it was hilarious for men to hold each other accountable in the work place.
No one actually cares about the Try Guys. That's why the fact that it was being treated this seriously is perfect to make a satire of.
@@maximumoccupancy it doesn’t matter if they’re completely unknown or not … it’s the fact they did the right thing and SNL are laughing at them for it like the douchebags they are . If this involves a race issue would they still make a mockery of it ??
There were definitely better (and funnier) ways to make the point of "Who even are the Try Guys and why should we care?" without the agenda of also making the situation look frivolous. You can tell they wanted to make fun of the overarching theme of "who cares? why is this news?" but they just happened to also make it seem like Ned's behavior was acceptable and unjustly punished, which makes it miss the mark to anyone who understands how serious the situation was. The legal ramifications alone make this mean more than just "a consensual kiss [I] didn't tell [my] friends about". I would be willing to rewrite this sketch for a small fee, SNL.
they just could never deal with the possibility of john mulaney not coming back bc of it. its too often that mid white guys who put up a whole act abt loving their wives cheat.
@@maximumoccupancy The try guys were actually rlly popular on youtube and still got millions of views every video… so they werent even irrelevant lmao
How can you miss this hard when every social media avenue has given so much material to work with
EXACTLY!!
They probably didn't feel like they could steal anymore joke ideals since Joel Havers fan base dragged them through the mud and back
I thought it was pretty funny tbh
@@corvenzo221 its funny but snl is known for their videos showing their stance on a subject. Finally a man is being held accountable (even if it is just for cheating) and this is how they respond? mocking the people who did the right thing, even though it was hard.
Bc they didn’t miss, they are making a joke of how tone deaf the situation has gotten compared to other life changing news going on rn. Giving a white man attention bc he cheated and was fired VS kids being murdered in Thailand or life changing laws being passed.
I love how they try to write it off as “a consensual kiss between coworkers”, when Ned’s wife did NOT CONSENT TO BE CHEATED ON.
Cheating in a relationship isn’t a crime lol
@@bendover2425 to the brainwashed it is a crime. The are blowing a consensual relationship between 2 adults as a murder 😂 He shouldn’t have cheated but the whole “misuse of power” BS and blowing it out of proportion like they did is insane. This sketch was exactly how I felt watching the original. I mean, editing him out of videos? Are they 5? 😂😂😂
@@SgtFuckOff does a consensual kiss last for an entire year?
@@codzboy74 where tf did I say consensual “kiss”? I said relationship. Do you have trouble reading on top of being a brainwashed sheep? 😂😂 Guess you think it’s a crime too 😂😂😂
Isn't that her problem? Why should I care?
In other words, everyone at SNL cheats on their spouses with their subordinates and don’t see what the big deal is. That actually, genuinely makes sense.
That is actually a real rumor about SNL considering the work hours are sometimes all night
This ∆
Dang!
Actually Ned once stated in one of their old podcasts that one of his old college friends was a writer at SNL so it seems like they had something to do with it
People are making such a big deal out of this when it's just parody of internet apology videos and "actual" news reporting. The topic is serious, but that doesn't mean SNL is forbidden from touching the subject.
I dont think I've seen SNL misread a situation this bad in my entire life
the amber heard trial sketch was a misfire as well
@@fennecfox9490 Ned friend works for snl and ber is fucking basically all of the higher ups... of course it's going to be like this. they wanted it to not look as bad for themselves
No fr ??
75% of men and 68% of women admit to cheating at one point in their life. It's so funny that everyone thinks they are above it when statistically given the opportunity, you would take it.
Can you tell us how they misread it? Because I want to know what he did that was so dramatic that he is now dead to all his friends and needs to be digitally erased from all content so viewers aren't traumatised. Who did he r*pe or kill exactly?
Reading the comments section--honestly proud that so many people are not cool with sweeping unethical behavior under the rug. Way to go, internet :)
yeah when I found out ab this sketch I was really hoping the comments would be like "uhhhh..."
@Z Malek way to respond to an argument that literally nobody made
@@Bea-ni6vk fr lmao
@Z Malek nobody said that South Korea or Iran weren’t important. We’re all saying that making fun of three friends for standing up against infidelity and immorality is a dumb and strange move for SNL to make.
you’re unethical
SNL should be embarrassed by this skit. Possibly even ashamed. This choice to support the perpetrator and shame the people to reacted appropriately changed my viewpoint of SNL.
This had to have been written by one of Ned's friends. Who knew it was absolutely no big deal for a married company owner whose entire brand is centered around how much he loves his wife to have a public affair with one of his subordinates.
Her name is Alison Gates
Morally, it is a big deal.
But that's it. It ends there. And sadly betrayed relationships are so common they don't tend to have any workplace meaning.
It makes sense to remove Ned with how connected the company is, which is unusual as most companies don't get that connected, but the situation is definitely overblown and the sketch is poking fun at that.
@@Vulpesune If a business had 4 owners, and one of those owners proudly proclaimed that they were vegan, and their entire personality revolved around veganism, chances are that multiple customers give that business their loyalty BECAUSE of those loudly spoken values.
Even though this is a social media channel, it is also a fully operational company (fairly sure Try Guys is an LLC) and they require brand deals as well as views to be able to pay employees. It is about 99% guaranteed that brands have already pulled deals, and more probably will, because the only reason they had a contract was because Ned Fulmer was seen as a family man.
Ned Fulmer also could not be legally removed UNLESS he violated company policies, which he obviously did or else he would still be an owner.
@@peachy_liz7649 Yes, and that is likely why lawyers are being involved, to make sure there is no hole he can use, or to make sure they have a strong case, to dispute the firing or sue for it.
I don't find the sketch is making fun of that, more the other stuff...and probably just that this is such a big news story where other news stories would seem to eclipse it in greater importance.
@@Vulpesune and yet the invested the time and money in drawing attention to this issue that people like you have no clue about? low hanging fruit and not funny
It’s crazy that this is how snl spinned it when they could have joked about the irony of Ned cheating when he’s ‘all about his wife’
Right? This could have been funny. Instead it just insulted his poor wife. Like she's not Beyonce, she'll get over it? My God... this passed so many eyes and they all thought this was chill.
Neds friend, Will Stephen, was in the credits as a writer on this sketch
Sounds painfully unfunny
Right; the rest of the world is making money off of making fun of him and SNL makes fun of responsible friends/business men protecting their brand and their friend that got cheated on. Missed opportunity.
@Miguel Alvarez they found out like at the beginning of September, and immediately took action, but they're a company, and there are legal issues so it takes time to make sure things are done right.
For anyone actually wondering what happened: Ned used to be a co-owner of the Try Guys company 2nd Try LLC that included a UA-cam channel with over 8 million subscribers and around 20 non-millionaire employees that could lose their jobs if the company gets sued.
The issue began when the other owners became aware that he had cheated on his wife with one of his employees, a women named Alex who was engaged and had been dating her (now ex) fiancé for 10 years. She was a “food baby” which was a spin-off series on the channel.
After the other three guys found out about this, they went through a 3 week internal review with lawyers because Ned opened up the company to a shit ton of legal issues. They terminated his contract as well as their 7 year friendship with him (this was before the internet found out)
They didn’t want it to be a big deal but the internet figured out that they had edited him out of videos and the texts of him cheating got leaked, so it became more public than they originally expected and they had to make a video about it.
The reason for the shock is because his entire online persona was about loving his wife, so the internet felt blindsided. However, and this is important to note, he didn’t get fired because he cheated, he got fired because he slept with his employee. The reason they have to edit him out of all the videos was because they couldn’t “profit” off of his image after he was fired as this would, again, open them up to a shit ton of legal issues.
Overall this entire scandal boils down to an asshole making an incredibly stupid decision, not even trying to hide it, and potentially blowing up the hard work of 20+ people, including his own.
Thanks I thought SNL had just made some characters up for a skit, Thanks for giving the back story.
Hmm. Thanks for giving this skit context; I had no idea what had happened.
sir, this is a Wendy's
Your explanation is the first time I have really seen the logic if why this is such a big deal. The cheating and defamation of the internet persona he created is an issue but it is nothing more than “internet drama” until you realize the legal liability aspect.
this needs to be the top comment because i personally am tired of explaining this shit to people just because SNL had the audacity to allow it to be aired so wrongly
imagine making a punchline out of a company holding their higher up accountable for having an affair with an employee
The punchline was the media's obsession over it. There was a freaking war in Ukraine and we are worried about the HR policies of some youtube channel?
Must be nice to have a Yale friend who works at SNL to downplay your infidelity on national TV. Ned is exactly the kind of WASP who would call on "an old friend" to fix a mess he got himself into.
You think he asked them to do this?
@@Hans-sg5rg he has multiple connections with SNL workers, he either asked them or they thought they could help out. Or even worse, SNL construed this themselves… either way, it’s the shittiest take and exposed how their company would handle this.
Seems to me exactly what happened
Pink hair, uses the term “WASP”. Yep I’ve seen all I need to know.
@@rikmcdik6662 alright then UA-cam user Rik mcDik
Good to know that if an SNL producer had a "consensual workplace relationship" with one of their employees for over a year, their HR team would do nothing.
well NBC did turn a rather blind eye to Matt Lauer's behavior
Hey just wondering , why is a consensual workplace relationship bad ? I’m just confused by this whole situation honestly.
@@learningcurve2520 In this case it was a boss dating his subordinate. That is problematic because of a power imbalance. It's also problematic because all these people were friends with each other and with this affair the two betrayed everyone else's trust and put them in a really difficult, awkward situation. And in all honesty people shouldn't date their coworkers (and especially not their employees). It can get very messy and uncomfortable for everyone if anything goes wrong. And honestly if you spend all your work time and free time with your partner, then surely it will get messy. Don't date within a tiny circle. It never works out
@@Garsnoos thats all well and good, but why should any of us care about this? The whole point of the joke is that nobody should care this much about a UA-cam Channel.
@@learningcurve2520 Because he cheated on his wife
If I worked for SNL HR, this skit would worry the hell out of me. We’re just going to completely gloss over the power imbalance between Ned and his employee and reduce a several month long affair to a “consensual kiss.” We all know Ned has friends on the writing staff and this only proves that people in positions of power and influence will not hold each other accountable for their actions and attempt to make those holding one of their own accountable into a joke.
SNL HR works overtime to cover up abuse. That’s basically their entire job.
YES.
Pretty sure SNL's HR has been sweeping Lorne Michael's 'consensual workplace relationships' under the rug for years.
Who cares
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This isn't just the worst SNL sketch ever. If you consider how big the show is/ the standard that is expected of national television, it's actually the worst sketch in all of TV History.
The irony of this sketch is that multiple people in the comedy community have come out to say Lorne Michaels sexually harasses his assistants. It’s subtly mentioned occasionally by former snl stars. Norm MacDonald referred to them as the “Lornettes” in his book.
Okay but I don't see them coming out about it so
make this a top comment- expose every last one of them
They all fuck each other in Hollywood what else is new
There's so many funny jokes about this situation, and you managed to miss every single one of them. Guess that's what happens when your buddy is on the writing staff
Are you Ned's wife Ariel?
No thats just every snl skit
now i want to know exactly which SNL writer is friends with ned
Yeah, there is a bit of humor to be squeezed out of this, but this wasn't it. They could have done an audition montage of people trying out to be the next Try Guy, with interview questions that shame Ned.
@@kjjunior7918 no they're saying it could've been funny but it wasn't
I'm VERY happy that this comment section passed the smell check. The Guys did everything correctly. We love you guys!! Especially YOU, Keith!! Keith is Daddy's favorite.
Not gonna lie, I legit loved how they each kind of had a different visible response to it. Eugene looking SO ANGRY was just a mood like I hope if I'm rightly angry at something I look like he did and yeah, Keith is so awkward but hilarious
Yes! This sketch did not reflect that. I actually really hope Trevor Noah and/or Jimmy Fallon reaches out to them for an interview to get things right. This SNL interpretation was not it 😬
Fuck yeah!! Keith rocks!!
@@cgill914
cgill914
Seriously this. SNL’s lowkey defense of Ned and their attempt to normalize and trivialize women being cheated on, and shame men feeling upset about women being cheated on, is wild and deeply misogynistic.
Read my comment, hon. I think this was crap. And I stated so in a long comment condemning SNL.
the fact that men holding other men accountable is being ridiculed is insane
Everyone talking about how Ned has ties with the writers on SNL need to know that Alex also has a bestie working on SNL so this was 100% a purposeful hit piece
They didnt need all that about Eugene.. it just sounded like it came out the mouth of some prejudiced 1950s rhetoric.. I'm put off snl now ..
I mean they've done this with other people they imitate you know. Like celebrities. But when they do it with try guys it feels wrong. Probably because of the situation and the whole skit intself. Like the dudes were figuring it out. And their brand just got such a hit. Maybe they came off as shallow or whatever. It can happen.
No. They made fun of how ridiculous this was! Everyone cheats these days and to act like the world should stop for this story…. Well you need to go touch grass
@@Kelly-mi1yz you clearly don’t understand the situation lol. Their entire platform was build on non toxic masculinity and Ned’s (the boss who had a relationship with a subordinate) entire persona was about how much he loved his wife and literally was labeled the wife guy. That’s why it was such a huge issue for their community. They posted it on their UA-cam channel to their followers. They weren’t making it for the whole world, but for the people who have followed them since the beginning. Also it’s perfectly okay for companies to fire people for a boss and subordinate relationship. Most of the time it’s illegal within the company and you can get fired for doing so. Very simple.
In that case, they need to tell their friends to become better writers
People forget Ned's wife was an employee too. Their two kids and her were on several videos, whole parts of the company dedicated to a family podcast. They had a couple cookbook through the company. Ned's wife and all the other guys are best friends with her and the other "try wives" the try wives have their own podcast too... like this isn't just cheating this is cheating in a group of 10 best friends with a person in a lower position of power, in public, with kids at home, while famous and you don't care who sees.
People aren't meant to be that famous, as few people handle it all that well. Meanwhile, fans know his public persona and there's no telling how much of it is PR vs. reality. Sometimes the case is fame getting to them, sometimes it's just who they really are being seen for the first time. There are an infinite number of stories like this in show biz.
Actually that’s what annoys me about the Try Guys. Their wives and girlfriends have a channel just talking about being romantically attached to the try guys? If that’s not self-absorbed I don’t know what is. The idea that Ned and Ariel think they’re qualified to write a cookbook is equally stupid
@@okonh0wp have you ever even listened to their podcast?? That’s not what it’s about at all.
@@okonh0wp What the fuck how did you think that was what the podcast was about? 😂😂
@@CoreyT97 I didn’t listen to the podcast, but I feel like with the exception of the actual trying material the try guys and their significant others seem to think them being famous qualified them to be in the business of whatever they’re doing. If they have a podcast that’s interesting and they talk about interesting stuff title it other than “the significant others of the try guys”
Who thought this was a good idea? Ned didn’t just kiss a girl he was having an affair for a year. He made his wife and kids his whole personality and then goes and cheats. this very much effects their company and brand.
So? He didn't kill anybody
@@mewesquirrel6720 imagine saying "so?" to infidelity that's insane
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He almost murdered they're decade old brand.
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Pretend for a moment that Ariel, Ned’s wife, had actually been the one to cheat on him with a younger engaged guy who she was the boss of. Imagine how painful that would be for Ned and their mutual friends. Imagine the Internet and their fanbase finding out Ned got cheated on because his wife was making out with her boy toy at a concert in public and a fan saw. Can you imagine how sad and embarrassed Ned would be and how men AND women from far and wide would rally behind him and call for that cheating “bitch’s” head?
Ok good, now you get it. Unfortunate that you only have empathy for wronged men but good that you sort of kind of understand now. I doubt that this sketch would even exist if the story were that this was the trio’s angry/sad/disappointed response to their fanbase learning that their wholesome 4th try guy had been cheated on by his wife.
It was for a year?
The ratio of 37K likes to 195K dislikes is the most hilarious thing about this bit.
The most hilarious thing for me is having no idea who any of these people are but correctly assessing they must be famous internet people due to the intensity of the comments.
These comments are so salty. Delicious.
(note to self: OP has argued this isn't a fandom issue when a majority of comments mention the guys by name, with familiarity and also know about the make up of their families)
@@Dugnutt_Keep Comments are "salty" because the screenwriter did this bit to support his friend and diminish him being thrown out of the company after abusing his power as a boss. They make dumb jokes about people who have acted fair and put a safe workplace environment first instead of their buddy which is pretty foreign for the SNL crew as they tend to do exactly the opposite. You're eating it up exactly as they intended, bravo.
@@freyja6360 I've been a nerd long enough to know this is simply a fandom at work.
However, the issue y'all are having is that you can't play the coercion card. So you've got to stress on lawsuits and power dynamics, but the reality is most of us don't care about the former and only the latter as it relates to coercion - which, again, is a card you don't have.
There's nothing for me, or any of you in my opinion, to be upset about.
@@Dugnutt_Keep Your opinion about the situation you have no idea about is worth nothing. You think that it's poor SNL against some imaginary "internet fandom". I don't even watch TG's videos all that often to recognize that their behavior in a crisis situation was textbook. You've probably missed that the mainstream media and numerous publications were equally outraged about this skit and the fact that the skit was written by a friend of the guy who was sacked and they're intentionally missing the whole point to make their buddy sound better. Yeah, those stupid fandoms😂... SNL got murdered in all the media for this crap and the only thing they've got in return was the fact that their own misconducts and shady practices got exposed once again. Now they're the ones on the couch, constantly crying how everyone is unfair.
Go back under the same rock you've crawled from. You're late for the discussion anyways and you sound ridiculous trying to pretend like you have a clue. "Coercion"😂, b... please.
@@Dugnutt_Keep lmao ive never seen someone so proud about being willfully ignorant
This just reflects how SNL would handle a situation like this if it were to ever happen to them.
This reflects a joke or spoof.
@@Y2Jerms jokes or spoofs are meant to be funny
Additionally, the whole joke about how the news of Ned cheating is in everything rn is 100% the medias fault. There are definitely other issues In the world that need to be highlighted . This matter needs to stopped being joked for the family to move on properly, not just by SNL but try guy fans themselves
@@chey7090sioux humor is subjective. Just like what is found offensive. To me, it was pretty funny. Not hilarious, but a good poke at what people were having a fit about for 2 weeks.
@@chey7090sioux they are in the public eye. Anything they do is basically up for grabs to be poked at and made fun of. It's been a thing since celebrities and TV have been around. Are people shitty? Yes. Should they stop being shitty? Yes.
Will bitching about it do anything? No.
People complaining and being offended by every little thing is why mario, doesn't sound like mario in the new movie.
This was a little spoof of something that took over the internet for 2 weeks that half of the people who consumed it never even knew who these guys were. And it was a cheating "scandal". Nobody died. This crap happens all the time, everyday. Yes, people feel sorry for the kids and the wife and ex fiance and that's valid. But bitching about a spoof on it is just dumb.
It is actually so sad that male friends are finally keeping a friend accountable for cheating on his wife with one of his employees and this mediocore skit literally skipped all of that. Besides the fact that he wouldn't stop talking about how much he loved his wife and the whole background that made this situation so shocking. ANNND let's all ingore that ned has a friend who is a writer for SNL
the joke is that people care about this a lot more than they should
@@kngrfdegj5940 seems like you’re missing the joke if you’re here as well
@@gracefoster7587 no, i'm fully aware that watching these videos and commenting on them is a complete waste of my time. are you?
Yes!!!! They should be praised for keeping Ned accountable for a change!
Nothing talks like how the media responds
Y'all heard it from snl, cheating when you're married with kids and sketchy power dynamics are okay now. But God forbid a cheater's former coworkers calling him out, that's crossing the line!
because if it happened to Beyoncé you can get over it to.🙄like who says that? was definitely a low blow.
Wow! Today I learned that it’s okay for someone to cheat on their wife, completely disregarding their family, and with their employee at that! Really makes you wonder what goes on behind the scenes of this shitshow that hasn’t been funny in years- if ever
Omg 😂😂 spazz out it's a comedy skit too serious
They're parodying the reactive responses from the try guys. Cheating is a f-ed up thing to do, but it's not an earth shattering big deal. Fire him, provide support to the employee, and move on?
@@ijustamthem amen , it's cry babies making it worse
@@ijustamthem it was a big deal because the woman he was sleeping with was his employee. He was her boss. That’s completely inappropriate.
@@lenaestacks934 it was a big deal because the woman he was sleeping with was his employee. He was her boss. That’s completely inappropriate.
Glad to see that this is where SNL stands on exploitative power dynamics. Real cool.
Lorne Michaels: *I see no problem with this.*
Except there’s more proof it was a long term consensual relationship between two cheaters
@@rikmcdik6662 But don't you know? She's a woman, and just because she worked for them, she has no control over her actions. She's a victim and was raped, daggumit!
How do we know it's exploitative lol. They're two young adults that were spending a bunch of time together. Flings and attraction commonly grow out of that.
@@brick123zw it was an abuse of power regardless. At any point if Alex wanted to end things, she couldn’t because he was her boss. With an uneven power dynamic, it is never 100% consensual
So y’all just forgot to mention that this "food baby” was an employee and they had not just shared a kiss but were in a relationship for months.
Yep, Ned's buddy from his days at Yale, who also happens to be a writer at SNL, conveniently "forgot" to mention those parts. Also forgot to mention how it wasn't just a "kiss at a Harry Styles concert", but was instead a year-long affair. An affair that resulted in him cheating on his wife Ariel, the mother of his two little boys, and whom he REPEATEDLY gushed about in his videos, thus basically making his wholesome wife-guy persona his bread and butter. And they also left out the part that the affair was one of an uneven balance of power at the workplace, where he was the boss and she was the employee.
Yep, they forgot so much, I wonder if someone had a case of amnesia over there 🤔
What you forgot is that there are many serious worldwide issues mentioned in the video, compared to that the whole try guy story is a joke.
@@amberg4539 Yeah I used to be a fan of the try guys. And this situation sucks and is sad but like, there’s so much more other bad stuff that going in on Ned seemed unnecessary. It’s a ned and Ariel thing anyway.
so what...
@@masakazuishiguro8525 where did I say that there are not bigger issues going on at all??? This was a sketch that condoned sexual misconduct and that is not ok. You completely missed the entire point of my comment.
Wow, look at that. Ned's old Yale friend made a sketch downplaying him breaking a literal law by sleeping with his employee. Which even Ned himself said in an old video is very illegal. Hope SNL is proud of themselves for continuously getting worse.
Her name is Alison Gates
I'm sorry, what law? I'm not a legal expert but I'm pretty sure there aren't any federal nor California state law prohibiting workplace relationships, no matter what power dynamics are involved. Or do you mean extramarital affairs themselves are illegal? What?
@@HerrDurkslag google is your friend right now. a simple search would tell you yes, it is illegal. the circumstances are different for everything though. sometimes getting fired occurs, sometimes not. it honestly depends on the situation. even if it was consensual some workplaces still fire over boss/employee or co worker relationships. normally it is the company's decision. since the try guys are their own company, they decided to not tolerate a power dynamic relationship involving a "boss" (ned) and a lower employee.
@@HerrDurkslag literally found this in an article on a quick google search:
“Employers may be liable for harassment not just to an employee once involved in a consensual romantic relationship, but also to other employees who have witnessed the relationship. The California Supreme Court has recognized a claim of sexual harassment brought by two women because they had been offended that other women received preferential treatment through sexual cooperation with their boss. The Supreme Court noted that an isolated incident of favoritism on the part of a supervisor toward the employee with whom the supervisor had a consensual relationship ordinarily would not constitute sexual harassment, but when “sexual favoritism in the workplace is sufficiently widespread it may create an actionable hostile work environment in which the demeaning message is conveyed.””
@@HerrDurkslag As a business student in LA it is not illegal. However, there must have been a contract agreement stating he couldn't do this with an employee. If he was let go he broke a law/ploicy within the company not the law for california. It was totally legal for try guys yo fire him. Sleeping with an emplyee under you is dangerous for the company and opened them up to lawsuits. This is highly frowned upon, even business studdnts are told not to do this shit.
“But he was a try guy and she was a food baby”. Let me fix that for you: “He was one of the owners and founders of the company and she was his EMPLOYEE.”
This is why so many sex offenders and abusers go years without being held accountable in Hollywood. They think it’s overreacting when the Try Guys take appropriate action to deal with this situation while they invite people like Kevin Spacey onto the show.
The man cheated on his wife and you are acting like he’s Jeffery Dohmer get over yourself.
Bro, chill. There was no sexual abuse. Kevin Spacey has not been on SNL since his controversy. This is not MeToo, this is a boss having a workplace relationship with an employee. No doubt there's a power imbalance but workplace relationships are discouraged to avoid *potential* coercion, not because it's legally considered sexual harassment.
People cheat, it's part of real life. They'll get over it, people will move on with their lives. In a week, nobody will be talking about this. SNL just wanted to get a quick joke in while the iron was hot. You're acting like they busted Harvey Weinstein out of jail and brought him on stage to grope every female cast member, it's just a joke about an overblown cheating scandal.
@@HerrDurkslag ok so I aint the only one thinking this has been blown out of proportion
@@HerrDurkslag No one said Ned was but we don't know what happened between him and Alex exactly and showing that SNL thinks the whole potential of it being a workplace violation, morally wrong, and against the law kind of shows how SNL reacts to their own workplace violations.
@@HerrDurkslag the point I was trying to make is that the Try Guys are a representation of what it looks like to rightfully hold someone accountable in the entertainment industry. As soon as they found out, they did what was right, before it became a scandal. What Kevin Spacey was doing was allegedly an open secret in Hollywood, and it’s not like he’s the only sex offender/ abuser that’s been given a platform in that space. Ned seemingly had one inappropriate affair with a subordinate and the Try Guys booted him. How many people did famous abusers like Chris Brown, R Kelly, allegedly Horatio Sanz, and so on have to do much worse to before Hollywood took a stand? I’m not comparing Ned to those men, but I’m speaking on the blatant hypocrisy of it all. The reason why people are angry is because this has become a larger issue than just some guy cheating on his wife. Firstly, if someone hurt your favourite creators you might be reactive and protective too. People also know his wife and family from their content together and empathise with them. Secondly, yes unfortunately these things happen, but Ned is a public figure who built his brand on being a non problematic family man, and it’s understandable that the audience he accumulated through that lens feel lied to. Thirdly, and the reason why I commented, is we know that the industry tends to favour protecting people that do less than favourable things in positions of power over holding them accountable, so we‘ve been asking for better. Now that we finally see people in the industry do better, we don’t need SNL coming along trying to ridicule them for it.
This was really a low blow by SNL, seriously? The try guys actually did a fantastic job handling it all and holding people accountable. Good on them.
Agreed. But Ned has a couple of friends that work at SNL and I know at least one is a writer. They probably had something to do with this.
Agreed
Who gives a fuck lmao you put your life out there then this is what can happen
This isn’t a low blow. This is a wonderful troll to those that actually think this is the most important thing to talk about right now. Who gives a shit in the grand scheme? I don’t.
@@Fire_Marshall_Bill that would be a really dumb fuckin troll considering half the stuff on SNL isn't something that needs attention. In the grand scheme of things, SNL itself doesn't matter if that's the perspective you have.
So the joke is
"Wow an employer had an affair with an employee and the company actually did something instead of sweeping it under the rug"
I feel like someone needs to check out what's happening behind the snl scenes after this because that's such a red flag
edit: I completely forgot I commented this like 2 years ago until just now and there are a bunch of replies, mom pick me up I'm scared.
i was so heated about this lmao???? Though rewatching it, I think despite the attempted joke being that it's silly that the try guys situation was getting more attention then other world events, the jokes were way too much at the try guy's expense and not enough at ned's.
Seriously, the guys did everything right and the fact that it’s being mocked means someone is probably pulling the same shit over there
The joke is, people making a big fuss over personal drama that doesn't need a fuss
After the Horatio Sanz allegations involving the SNL employees, I'm not surprised by this sketch, tbh
i think they are making fun of the fact it being made out to be a bigger deal than the ukraine or iran situation
"Tell me you don't actually understand the joke without telling me you don't actually understand the joke"
I came straight here after watching the actual clip the Try Guys posted
This sketch was insensitive, wildly inaccurate, minimized the pain of everyone involved in the scandal, and somehow also managed to demonize the remaining Try Guys for having perfectly valid feelings.
They totally did Eugene dirty on this.
the fact that this actually aired and no one ever thought during the creation process "this is too cringe" is embarrassing
There is a war going on in Ukraine, the GOP are scheming to steal the next US election, and climate change is worsening, but ya'll just wanna complain bout how they did the Try Guys wrong.
@don't be surprised I thought it was hilarious
have you seen gen z hospital? snl really doesn't have any quality check
Their primary audience is wine moms on Facebook who think FRIENDS is the epitome of comedic genius, they have no idea what they're doing.
It's SNL.... SNL hasn't always will be cringed that's why it's funny
i don't even watch the try guys, but i found their response to this situation so professional and admirable. this is the first time i've seen any company take the accountability that they did. they were deeply hurt because their long-time friend and co-worker was involved with their subordinate. not only did someone they trusted abuse their power, but this also put their entire company and brand at risk. the fact that SNL is downplaying all of this to be some kind of silly internet drama instead of workplace sexual misconduct is very telling.
@here is the full clip thank you for bringing this to my attention🙏
The writer on this sketch is Ned’s friend!
Ned didn't abuse his power, though. In all likelihood, Alex consented to the relationship. She may have even initiated it. Why I understand the reasoning behind the Try Guys firing Ned, it's still crazy how people are treating Alex as the victim when she is just as responsible for what happened.
@@greywolf7577 Legally, it doesn't matter if she was or not. As a company, they have to cover all of their tracks to ensure she doesn't claim otherwise (that he used his position of power to coerce her into a relationship) and sue for wrongful termination. That's why she hasn't been fired along with Ned.
@@greywolf7577 She is responsible for her actions. She cheated on her fiance of 10 years. No one is saying she shouldnt be held responsible. Its also a fact that women tend to get 100x more hate than men. So stop bringing up Alex as a sad attempt to defend Ned. You obviously dont understand power dynamics. In an older Food Babies video Alex is talking to YB about when she first started working for the Try Guys. She literally said she was a big fan of them. She was in awe, as anyone would around a famous person you're a fan of. Thats the point. She was a fan who became a subordinate. Power dynamic.
A round of applause to Ned's friend for standing by his bro and trying to rehabilitate his image. He failed gloriously, making all of SNL look like they are pro-sexual-misconduct. Real awesome way to burn your company down. Bros before Boss. That takes balls. Tiny ones. But hey, what do you expect from a Yale frat boy?
Honestly, it’s creepy AF and it makes me thing that if it happens so easily in the UA-cam domain, imagine what’s going on everywhere. I seriously wonder if they always had a feeling that Ned cares only for himself
Can he be thrown to jail because of this? A man should be sentenced to death for cheating. Right?
@@maxmx767 the company can be sued and the employee can claim that she was coerced if projects and funds were withheld conditionally based on her participation in sexual acts with the founding member of their company. Dude was also the acting HR manager, so she had no one to report to if she felt coerced… so yeah. It wasn’t cheating that as the problem, it was putting the whole company in jeopardy bc he had to eat where he shat
@@harmonylinder9913 Oh! So that’s News worthy 🤣
@@maxmx767 meh. you don’t like it, don’t read it.
You know Ned & Alex were quick to message their friends 😂
Reminder that one of Ned's friends apparently writes for SNL so... The uneven mockery of everyone BUT Ned makes sense
True, like if they added a part where there's a 'new apology video' from Ned in which the actor is like ugly crying and taking a deep sigh before saying anything (to parody all apology videos in existence), it would have at least made everyone involved in the drama look foolish. Now it's only Eugene, Zach, Keith and all their fans that look like idiots.
Yeah this is just gross. SNL do better.
Wait really? Which one?
@@colekiker7938 Ned mentioned it in an old TryPod episode, I don't know the name of his "friend", though
Ned probably sold his soul if thats the case. Imagine having a friend that writes a worldwide show.
Poor Ariel. Having all of this aired on national television is adding insult to injury. ESPECIALLY when this is EXTREMELY downplayed to favor the cheater.
yes thank you i haven't seen any other comments addressing how this affects Ariel, I can't imagine the emotional toll. it's her real life, marriage, and family they're making a joke out of...
“Isn’t that a bit extreme?” “No.”
That’s it, that’s the answer
Well apparently Ned has SNL writer friends and it shows. Holy shit...I mean the downplay of it is cringe. If I had friends and I fucked up hard I'd want them to tell me in a loving way not downplay it to stroke my ego and act like I could've done worse.
You do know that there are multi-cheaters, correct? The girl cheated as well, it wasn't just Ned. Ned didn't hold a gun to this girls head and force her to cheat on her fiance. She CHOOSE to have an affair with Ned.
Well, according to paparazzi videos, she seems to be sticking by him. Meanwhile, the Try Guys are are languishing around acting like they were the ones cheated on while milking this for every possible view.
Yea, I’m sure growing up, Ned’s children will LOVE to see this skit and how it downplays the idea that the fact that their own father cheating wasn’t that ‘big of a deal’. I hardly watch the Try Guys but anyone with eyes can tell this is in bad taste. I feel bad for those children, but more importantly his wife, Ariel.
Fuck them, kids. This was an actual funny SNL skit. Good for them to be able to turn a tragedy into a joke
Cheating is perhaps a big deal within a relationship. But it's not national news. How the guy and his wife handle it seems like a very private matter, not something where "accountability" needs to be super public.
@@guaposneeze a boss or founding member of your company sleeping with an employee is something you need to address especially if you are in the social eye.
@@guaposneeze it was hardly national news, just Internet drama
It’s not a big deal though, it might be for that specific family, but for everyone else eager to jump on that high horse, this is no way or capacity will affect them or anyone they know. they are honestly pretending like this coworker didn’t consent for over a year, They are honestly pretending that Ned with some type of deviant when he wasn’t, he is just a cheater and it doesn’t really matter in the grand scheme of things
It’s still shocking that this happened. And hearing Zach and Keith discuss it even now is heartbreaking. Screw everyone involved in this.
I love that SNL is essentially mocking a group of men for taking sexual misconduct at work seriously and actually firing someone for it. It started off funny but it really went downhill when it became apparent what a toxic take they had on the whole thing. SNL really missed the mark on this one and should be embarrassed to have posted it on UA-cam.
Only no one has said it was sexual misconduct, yet you run with it like it's a proven fact.
@@silentsaturn7604 consensual or not it still makes for an uncomfortable work environment for other employees.
@@silentsaturn7604 You don’t understand how power dynamics work, do you? You cannot be in a fully consensual relationship with someone whose checks you sign at the end of the day. He was the HR department for the company as well, the only person who said it was consensual is Ned.
@@silentsaturn7604 there is no such thing as a consensual workplace relationship between an employer and subordinate and that's according to the law, if this had happened in any other reputable company he would have been fired, it's not about the cheating legally, this is defined as a type of workplace sexual harassment.
@@silentsaturn7604 Sexual misconduct at work is exactly why Ned got fired. You just don’t understand the legal terms. Ned signed a contract as owner of the company that he could not do that. None of them were or are allowed. Unless they sign paperwork. That’s the way it should be. Otherwise, Alex could “claim” harassment any time she wants and threaten to sue them. It’s better to have all your boxes checked, before something comes up. Especially as a business owner. So, brush up on your terms buddy or please, don’t open that Dunkin’ you were thinking about.
You can tell Ned's college connection at SNL influenced this because literally no one is siding with ned
A lot of people are which is sad though a part of me thinks these are older people who doesn’t understand the weight of this situation
@@captainaya2843 I feel sorry for any woman that works at SNL. Because there take on this only proved to us how they’d handle the situation by sweeping it under the rug, and not take the power imbalance seriously. Disgusting take, but they showed their true colors with this skit. Hope people stay far the fuck away
@@captainaya2843 i haven’t seen a single one so majority fat outweighs ppl supporting Ned tho
apart from the scum bags who have also had "consentual" work place relationships.
yes I put it in quotes because of how bs that is when the power is inbalanced.
@@manofmagic1803 literally also funny how the only one describing it as consensual is Ned meaning Alex probably felt some sort of pressure due to him being her boss but putting any sort of pressure on someone to be intimate is wrong regardless which is why these relationships are wrong what’s not to understand haha
I was honestly really impressed by how the Try Guys handled this situation.... I don't understand how anybody at SNL thought that this was funny enough to air. And it's also not their fault that it went viral before they even had a chance to respond.
Glad to know how SNL would respond to this kind of situation if/when it happens there.
It’s bananas. 100% self report
I’m glad other people think it was stupid. It’s making fun of a disgusting thing one of my favorite try guys did.
It’s cuz Ned has a friend that works for SNL
That’s a really good (and really scary) point
It’s funny because they are pretending it like he did something traumatic, it’s just not that serious and the simple fact that they have so many people giving them sympathy is exactly why it’s such a problem, when’s the last time you supported a CEO resigning because of an affair? when is the last time you ever thought “ just think of the millionaires affected“
He cheated on his wife (who he had kids with), with an employee (he was her boss). His entire personality was talking about how much he loved his wife, and his kids. But he cheated on her many many times.
The Try Guys were not only hurt by the fact that their best friend would do that. They were hurt as a brand and company. If one of the owners of a company manages to abuse his power (it's pretty obvious that an affair with a subordinate breaches the code of conduct), it then places the other owners under fire. It questions their HR, and the integrity of their brand. It put their personalities (since Ned obviously showed everybody how much he lied to the screen) on the chopping block too.
He basically fucked them over, didn't warn them at all, and when it all came out- he didn't even try to help his stressed-out friends by making a decent statement about the situation.
So no, it's not just 'besties' upset that their buddy kissed a girl without telling them.
It's business partners severing ties with an owner who put their entire companies' ethics into question.
It's friends who are heartbroken for his wife (who feels betrayed and I'm assuming is divorcing him), and upset for his children- whose lives will be changed indefinitely by Ned's stupid decisions.
Oh nooooo
Yeah, that line should have been rewritten.
Who cares?
The way this sketch could have been hilarious if Ned’s friend hadn’t wrote it
Her name is Alison Gates
It would never have been very funny tbh. Quite like the Johnny Depp case sketch
i know right! if they concentrated on parodying that what happened vid and making a joke that eugene clearly is mad af and zach is sad and keith is disgusted the sketch would have been a 100 times better but snl just blew it with this one..
@@saanasalonen8684 I was waiting for “Zach” to sound close to crying, but I guess the sketch was just too…funny…
SNL is feeling more and more like it’s fill with dimwitted pickmes and porn bros.
So the try guys response was done as professionally as possible. It was not a "clap back". This is an absolutely abysmal take.
This is one of the most tone deaf sketches I have ever seen off of SNL but I can definitely believe that they meant to offend and upset those that were hurt in this event.
Tone deaf is SNLs whole brand at this point. Lol
Makes me a lot more worried about that joke about the new (white) cast member playing Kanye
@@CircusoftheMoon exactly bad publicity is good publicity I guess.
Hm, now I know exactly what Pat Bateman meant when he said “that whole Yale thing”
Imagine being Ariel and having your husband's infidelity be made out to be nothing but a joke on national TV. Men finally hold their friends accountable for SEXUAL MISCONDUCT in the workplace and they get mocked for it?! This sketch missed the mark on every level.
sexual harassments? lmfao that shit was consensual
it's not sexual harassment when the person consents, dumb ass. She literally cheated on her fiance. She wanted it just as much as him. Meaning it's consensual. The only thing he did wrong was cheat on his wife.
@@RamblingRob2 the power imbalance between an employee and their employer is a legal minefield and absolutely sexual harassment. A boss cannot date an employee no matter how much the relationship was consensual between adults.
@@RamblingRob2 as much as some rom coms would like to convince you otherwise, bosses dating subordinates is really bad territory to enter into
@@RamblingRob2 we get it Rob you don't understand consent in the workplace, big shocker there
Good to know this is how the SNL staff and NBC would handle this situation if it happened amongst their ranks. Immensely respectful. We love blaming the victims and protecting the person who purposefully made a wrongful and conscious set of decisions over the course of a year. Thank you SNL 👏👏
Bffr you know this is a joke right?
that's such a good point this reflects really badly on how snl would handle a situation like this. embarrassing
@@J.4lifer.r yeah yeah it's all a joke right? Making fun of people who took accountability and giving real consequences to the people who caused so much harm. yeah that's so funny.
@@ElleA.595 that’s what snl does. They make jokes, good or bad. They’ve done it for almost 50 years. Y’all are taking it way too much to heart😂
So using your own logic every scit SNL has ever done was clearly them admitting guilt to doing that very thing or admitting to how they would handle a situation?
Do you understand what comedy is and how it works?
Wow, I didn’t laugh at all, because 3 men stood up for doing the right thing?!? SNL is one hypocritical institution these days. Zach, Keith, and Eugene if you’re watching this, just know there are millions of people that admire how well you handled such a painful situation.
This. ☝🏼
Yeah I also relate when I go founded a company with a known horny man who already flirted with everything that moved during buzzfeed. I support you 3 guys who overlooked that because money was on the line !
You think they did this because they were upset with Ned for cheating? Lmao. They did this to protect their brand 😂
preach!
YES
I don't understand the concept of people calling extra marital affairs "consensual". Did his WIFE consent to him cheating on her? No? Then it wasn't consensual. I love SNL but this sketch really missed the mark and completely missed the point of why their audience and the three remaining members were upset.
Meaning that Ned wasn't threatening this woman's livelihood. She was a willing participant in the affair. Its still wrong, but he wasn't using his position in power to pressure her.
Cheating on your wife in a public way with someone who works under you is morally wrong. I’m glad the try guys took this seriously and handled it so well.
I just tried to see if the new cast was funny.....turns out they aren't but 5ywy no how to trigger try guy fans
Maybe don't throw stones from glass houses. Bet you wouldn't be happy if I hired paparazzi or random strangers to follow and record you until you slip up and then let your employer know and post it publicly for millions to see. Over here acting like you're some perfect buttercup lmfao. I'm not condoning cheating, but go fuck yourself if you think someone should have their life/career ruined over it. It's a personal matter.
Especially when ned made it a part of his brand identity as the "wife guy"
Sure it’s morally wrong but they’re treating him as a murderer… It’s embarrassing how these three males are acting
Try Guys > SNL
The fact that people are saying "he cheated who cares" and can't understand that he put the whole company at risk is nuts.
Ned screwed up every aspect of his life with this decision.
Seriously. Not to mention betraying his fans. Without their love and trust, he would've been nothing.
the fact that anyone gives a fuck about the livelihood of a company created by celebrity millionaires is exactly why they are getting made fun of in this skit.
Did these guys really not know what was going on?
@@mercurypoisoning76 they found out about it around labor day weekend. They tried to keep it under wraps but with the internet being the internet they had to do it much sooner. They go into it more in the latest ep of their podcast.
This is actually sad how you turned the whole situation and showed these guys that handled the real situation professionally as some jackasses who “fired their friend just bc he kissed some chick” 👏🏼
Yeah, except for the part where, what should have been a private matter, went viral and then the drama ensued. I didn't know the Tryguys, didn't want to know them, and wanted to know about their company drama even less. I thought the SNL skit perfectly hit that mark.
@@bad_uncle isn’t that Ned’s fault tho? I’m sure they would have tried to make it private if he wasn’t at a concert, in public, making out with his mistress. He kinda made it hard for this to be under wraps.
@@bad_uncle it blew up as speculation on twitter and reddit so they were pretty much forced to speak publicly about it like... no shit it shouldve been a private matter lmao
I felt like the joke was on everybody else for giving a shit, not so much they Try Guys for taking accountability. Like who even are these dudes? I’ve vaguely heard about them before but sorta just wrote em off as more content for basics who still share buzzfeed quizzes.
@@bad_uncle before making random assumptions like this at least do your research. the guys recently released a podcast talking about the situation, saying that it was all already on reddit/spread by fans before they could do anything. heck, they found out all of this FROM a fan. they didn't intentionally make this a public thing, ned going out publicly to concerts and making out with his mistress is what made it public
I only clicked on this video for the comment section and I was not disappointed.
He was a co-owner of the company, co-founder of the company, a manager, & HR at the company. Also his wife worked for the company too.
He had an affair with an employee of the company & was out in public. His whole brand was loving his wife & being a family man, also this is their first scandal in 8 years and they are known for being no drama. it was also a liability for the 3 co-founders/co-owners of the company as I think the employee still works there, maybe his wife too so they can’t fire either or face retaliation charges.
yes we know but they act like he murdered someone
@@bluecollarmenproductions he could have murdered their company… I’d be pissed, too. He took no consideration of them and their business in his actions, delaying their food network show, other videos they’ve worked on and can no longer post (time is money), and opening themselves up to multiple lawsuits. Also, Ariel is their friend.
@@alyset.3083 true. I did see after this that Ned’s friend works at snl
Also it wasn’t just a one-time kiss. It was like a year-long affair, along with other people coming out and saying he was very flirty and tried hitting on them in public. Overall, not a good look for their company, I would be pissed too.
I’d be pissed if I were that bad at choosing co founders with a known reputation of being a serial flirted. Would be mad at myself for being so dumb
It’s crazy y’all are making fun of them when they had probably the most mature response to the situation. They launched an investigation, fired him, and then made two videos about what happened. Of all the people to defend in this situation, you chose the guy who cheated on his wife who’s entire personality is loving said wife. Good going SNL!
Lol "defending". It's poking fun. It doesn't matter what perspective is being portrayed because its not meant to be taken seriously.
Its a skit show.
@@ETbenzer i understand what you’re saying, but you have to also recognize that making light of the gravity of situation perpetuates a harmful narrative about workplace conduct and what’s to be normalized from here on out, since the news was already made a sensation at this point.
@@ETbenzer Sure but they are punching down not up so it makes it tasteless, plus if they wanted it to be funny the emphasis should have been on the fans overreacting or maybe even the guy who cheated, not on the try guys measured response.
@@es-lq1bw I hear you.
@@lilybolanos9301 I understand your point. But you should be able to punch up and down. I get that to you think they should make fun of the guy who cheated ( I would like to have seen that perceptive as well) however they decided to go the other route. There were alot of things to make fun of with this particular situation on both sides. Personally I actually didnt think this skit was that funny. I was just pointing out the use of "defending". No one was defending anyone. It was a goofy skit.
The Try Guys weren't the ones to blow this up, it was the online speculation. They handled the situation perfectly. SNL is excusing a boss having relations with a subordinate. SNL should've done more research.
You do know that bosses are allowed to have relationships with people of lower levels, correct? as long as they file it with PR... So that isn't really issue as long as she was consenting and considering that she cheated on her fiance as well. She was 100% consenting in this situation. The main problem is that he cheated on his wife. That is about it.
@@summoner1451 you realize that said paperwork was not filed, right? And without it, the subordinate is legally incapable of consenting? (Regardless of if she was a consenting party or not in the relationship itself, as far as the law is concerned, she wasn't because of the power dynamic and lack of proper paperwork.)
@@summoner1451 each company is different, and many of them do not permit senior members of staff to have relationships with employees due to the power dynamic at hand. Ned was having a covert affair with one of his subordinates, so he obviously did not file it as the other guys would come to know. You forget that he is not just her boss, but the co-CEO of the entire company. The guys have clearly alluded to how the situation has opened them up to endless calls with lawyers and legal teams- partially because of removing Ned, but also because of the relationship that occurred. Everyone knows it was consensual and most people aren’t disputing that. So no, its not just about the cheating, because otherwise they would have no legal grounds to fire Ned from the company.
@@davidjgillespie4226 "the subordinate is legally incapable of consenting?"
You do know that dating a subordinate isn't against the law, correct? lmao. None of what you just said is correct. No paper work has to be filled for the person to be consenting. It just means that the company can legally fire both of them with out any legal action against them. It would still be a consensual relationship. lmao
@@summoner1451 I never said it was illegal. Just that if not handled correctly, the power imbalance negates the *legal* consent, which opens up both Ned and 2nd Try, LLC to a sexual harassment case, unless they respond first by cutting Ned out of the equation, and protect the rest of the company from the consequences of Ned's actions should a case be formed. (See California civil code 51.9 and SB 224 passed in California in 2018)
For additional details, here's some resources:
www.rainn.org/articles/legal-role-consent
www.nsvrc.org/sites/default/files/publications/2018-12/power_dynamics_Final508.pdf
Ned having a friend who's an SNL staff writer is the missing piece that makes this sketch make sense.
In 2022 we don't call a boss having an affair with a subordinate a "consensual kiss"
what do we call it then?
@@pablomenmer A violation of HR policy and a liability issue
@ToxicatedLum It can be all of those things: an HR and liability issue as well as a consensual affair.
It's a consensual kiss. Let's stop being so dramatic.
@@YouScareMe1 it was a year long affair, but sure just a "consensual kiss". Why any concern for his wife and children, coworkers, and brand
Damn, after all the recent sexual misconduct allegations surrounding SNL you’d think they would learn their lesson about not downplaying them. Not really surprised Ned’s friend wrote the skit.
They literally said multiple times that she was his subordinate LOL
A person Cheating isn’t news or important. Yes, that’s 100% true. It’s only your parasocial relationship with the “try guys” that makes you think it is. It’s about as important as your neighbour cheating on their wife
@@johnsnow5955 no they didn’t they said food baby, which to anyone not familiar with them wouldn’t automatically think he was her boss.
@@bugsy220791 They then later say Food baby is a subordinate part of his company.. LOL
Didn’t watch the video huh?
@@johnsnow5955 no they didn't, it just said that food babies are a spin-off of try guys, which doesn't portray the work relation in clear enough light 🚦
Y'all know Ned was credited as a writer of this skit. Obviously they weren't going to put him in a bad light. Classic SNL L
why tf was he credited as a writer???
If that's true... what a shitty thing he did... seriously.. Way to be funny and make fun of people who helped you grow for years.. You're the one who fucked up Ned... if you wrote this, man... ooooof..... fucked....up.
Men finally holding other men accountable for publicly humiliating their wife and children by cheating are not something to make fun of. Clearly the man who wrote this sketch let his toxic masculinity out
It also needs to be noted that Ned has admitted he has a friend from Yale that is a writer on SNL.
Yeah and the people agreeing with it are totally fine with cheating and sleeping with an employee when you're the owner and your wife also happens to work with you and has two young kids at home. Is this really the best men have to offer now?
The sketch was not about what actually happened. The sketch was about why this seems to be as important as international news like a deadly hurricane and the fact that we're on the cusp if World War III. No one is saying they did the wrong thing, it's just somewhat concerning that someone being fired from a UA-cam channel seems to be on the same level as all of the things happening in the world right now.
@@kgal1298 no one is condoning cheating… But also I hope you live a perfect life so three of your friends won’t throw you completely under the bus over something that concerns no one except the two parties involved… This reaction is insane.... and the blind mob of virtue.... scary
@@cousinivoryciv1309 it doesn't just concern ned. He was the Head of HR he hired people he opened his friends up to LEGAL ISSUES AND THEIR CAREERS BEING IN DANGER but you care about the cheating guy? Not the 3 innocent men?
Isnt it wild how they are making fun of these 3 for holding ned accountable, instead of actually making fun of ned for sleeping with his employee and cheating on his wife, wow, snl, fire your writers.
For real. Like imagine a whole writers room seeing a boss fucking his employee,ruining his marriage and friendships and putting his company at risk and only coming back with “but she was a good baby” ffs.
Exactly. How did they become the punch line? There’s so many jokes they could’ve made about Ned but instead they decided to make fun of the people who did nothing wrong and actually handled it very well.
I actually think the SNL version is hilarious and can't think of a single joke about a man cheating on his wife and getting fired that would be funny. I was laughing my teeth off. I too was wondering why these guys were trending on Twitter and when I finally found out, I was thinking it was so overblown. Maybe ya gotta be a Tryguys fan to understand it.
@@bad_uncle They didn’t ask to make headlines- they never wanted the story to blow up at all. Such is a consequence of having such a massive online following. A lot of fans had been following them since they’re buzzfeed years almost 10 years ago and felt a sort of parasocial emotional connection to the guys because they were a sort of comfort channel for these individuals. What Ned did not only massively compromises the Try Guys brand that they’d worked so hard to build and which is reliant on viewers liking them, but especially his own personal brand, since he basically built his entire online persona off of being the “wife guy” who always talks about how much he loves his wife (with whom he has two young children). His wife works for the Try Guys as well- but she didn’t start as an employee, she’s part of a podcast of the Try Guy’s wives/partners- so this affair and the scandal around it also effects that part of their company. Plus, the woman Ned “allegedly” cheated with had a fiancé whom she’d been with for 10 years who was also occasionally featured on the Try Guys channel in some of their content. The biggest thing, though, is that Ned ultimately had an approximately year long sexual relationship with a subordinate employee. At that point, it really doesn’t matter whether it’s consensual or not. Even if you’re unable to grasp the power imbalances and dynamics at play here, you have to understand that he’s putting the reputation and legal sanction of his entire company at risk- and for what? Banal lusts? It must’ve been sooo hard for him to resist cheating on his wife and betraying his young boys. Regardless of whether or not she consented the entire time, ALL it would take was for her to say “he was my boss, there’s a power imbalance” to open up the entire Try Guys company to a lawsuit. Plus, you have to consider the consequences this has on the rest of their staff, and their feelings of workplace safety and general comfort. Not to mention all the hate and vitriol that is now being directed to many innocent employees that aren’t even involved in the scandal. This was a serious matter, and to treat it the way that SNL did is so disrespectful to the families that were destroyed by this. The remaining Try Guys aren’t even “removing every trace of him from every video ever,” they’re just editing him out of prerecorded videos because he is quite literally no longer a shareholder, boss, or employee of the company
@@bad_uncle what an odd take. This skit was in poor taste
The fact they they never call her his employee. Wow.
It’s just she was a food baby. Having her own video series wasn’t the issue. It was a workplace violation and that’s totally on Ned.
Exactly.. they knew not to do that because it would ruin their creditability for making this crap - his friends name is Alison Gates SNL writer they both went to Yale and are friends
I love how they just tried to avoid that fact as it it wasn’t important. Shows how they view those power dynamics
Grow up the joke was there were bigger relationship scandals an world events we'll live through this forced try guy tragedy people are "suffering"
@@GiveMeYourTacos666 she was a producer too.
The downplay is disgusting.
BUT. The highlighting of inconsequential and melodramatic internet scandals being given more importance and attention by people than events that actually tangibly affect people is REAL and hilarious 😂😂😂
It’s painfully obvious Ned’s friend wrote this sketch☠️
Her name is Alison Gates
Genuinely shocked that not one of the people making this sketch thought it was a bad take - sexual misconduct and abuse of power are not things to be brushed under the carpet as “a kiss” 🤬
I just wanna say that i dont understand why the work relationship power is stronger than a decade plus long relationship the side girl had? Wheres the power dynamic in that? But we dont want to have that conversation.
People saying “it wasnt an abuse of power” has the same energy as those girls saying “this is what I’d wear if I had a corporate job cause who’s gonna tell me I can’t.”
Like yall know what HR is right
@Mitch Glitch a married man with kids and the woman was engaged for ten years as well as a subordinate .
They both cheated and the wife is back with him so where's the abuse? The side chick cheated on her fiancé so idk what the big deal is. These guys are clowns
It was written by Allison Gates who is a friend of Ned's
Will Stephen is Ned's friend, and one of the writers of this sketch.
Now take a shot for every flashback you're getting of Ned saying "my buddy, Will"
This is so disgusting snl completely misunderstood the situation. Nice to see that if this were to ever happen to snl, they would handle it in this childish manner.
Clearly Ned's friend wrote this because this is probably the grossest misconstruction of a situation
This skit is not for you chronically online try guy fans. It's for everyone who couldn't give two shits about them but was bombarded by news about them for some reason
@@Franc1sc0 it does not change that they grossly misrepresented the situation. This was a co-CEO of a company having an affair with one of his subordinates which, even when consensual, is abusing (or at least using) power dynamics which this skit significantly undercuts the severity of. This skit is misrepresenting the severity of Ned’s actions and it straight up isn’t ok.
@@grantbasler5876 if it was consensual its fine. Youre allowed to fuck people you work with if you both want to. Cheatings wrong but its literally no one else's business. If you make a big deal out of it you gonna get mocked.
@@Franc1sc0 so you mean it is for the people that don’t give two shits about a boss having an affair with a subordinate at the company? Wow, this terrifies me.
@@Franc1sc0 and if you’re bombarded by it, you know you can click on “im not interested” or “do not show me content like this” or “block account” so you won’t see it anymore? Be part of the solution, no the problem. Grow up.