im 56 , i was 3 in 1970 , but i would do anything to be there to see those cars and drivers , the generation that i like , my favorite racing car porsche 917 !!!!also steve mcqueen took part , amazing !!!!!! my favorite movie star
I remember I had a Slot Track race set with Cars a lot like these winding around in our basement when I was a kid. I can hear and smell it when I close my eyes.
Man... my cousin build me a Ferrari 512 and we raced on a huge wooden racetrack in a club... great days ... me too I still remember the smells of the tyre aditives, the hot little engines and all that...
Grew up in Indy in the 60's. Was great to have a lot of these great racing legends compete in multiple forms of racing. USAC had the Indy 500 plus dirt track. McQueen 278!
I was there. I remember reading an account that Mario was infuriated because Steve McQueen was getting all the publicity despite the fact that his teammate Revson was over 10 seconds a lap faster and was doing most of the driving. Mario simply could not let the Porsche win and drove like a man possessed towards the end.
McQueen was slower however he was driving with a cast on his foot. Revson was a really talented driver and Mario is the greatest driver of all time. Midgets, sprint cars on dirt and pavement, Indy cars, stock cars , F1. He was amazing
Jep, he had a cast on one foot and it even broke as he was driving, I think they fixed it with tape… and I’m sure he gave revsonthe credit he deserved. They still almost beat Andretti in an inferior car, they did rock that day !!
@@GilturnerknocksoutphonyFloyd, I question your statement about Andretti. Most people, worldwide, would say that Jim Clark was the greatest driver the world has ever seen.
Marvelous memories of great men and machines. Racing movies like this were often shown in post-season at the major international car shows. You might see Indianapolis 500 highlights or coverage of the Can-Am championship. Most of these were produced by team or series sponsors. Show promoters would create a small movie theater where these free films ran one after another. It was always cool to watch, as racing coverage on television was still quite limited.
Sebring was bulit in the 1940s as a B17 Bomber training base. After the war it was left to the town and subsequently converted to a race track. Even today parts of the original runway are part of the track: respect the bumps.
Was there in 1972 when the Ferrari 312pb's won. Race track is awesome. Peter Revson got penalized for giving a pit marshall the finger; he drove an Alfa-Romeo T-333p. Still remember numbers of the cars placing 1st thru 5th; 2, 3, 33, 57, 59. The #4 Ferrari 312pb had a gearbox failure, it overheated and the car caught fire...remember that acrid smell of the hot oil coming from the gearbox.
I was lucky enough to be there for the race. The greatest memory was when Steve McQueen came by picked me up and carried me through the crowd. He asked me how I was liking the race and who was I cheering for..I said him and Peter Revson. When we got in his trailer He introduced me to his wife and said ok sport off you go. He opened the door to his trailer and flashbulbs went off like crazy. I have never found a picture of that event unfortunately. 😢
I am a nostalgia hot rod artist,, because just about every or any car venue there were so many race cars that looked like sculptural works of art. The Ferraris, Porsches, jeez,,
Lembro dessa corrida e da manchete do jornal: "Final cinematográfico nas 12 Horas de Sebring!". Corrida fantástica, inesquecível. Tenho saudades desse tempo em que as corridas eram mais autênticas e tinha nomes como Dan Gurney, François Cévert, Masten Gregory, Vic Elford, Peter Revson, Richard Atwood, Henri Pescarolo, Johnny Servoz-Gavin, Jacky Ickx, Mario Andretti, Nino Vacarella, Arturo Merzario, Leo Kinnunen, Jo Siffert... além do incomparável engenheiro Mauro Forghieri !!! Ferrari, Corvette, Matra, Alfa Romeo, Porsche, Lola, Ford... Que saudades! Como eram bonitas as Ferrari 512 e as Porsche 917!
@racketman2u - I live just 1/2 hour from Lime Rock Park in Connecticut, and they just commemorated Paul Newman by naming the back straight "The Paul Newman Straightaway." Lime Rock was his home track and I had the pleasure of watching him win many races there. By the way, he won 7 SCCA National Championships!
Given nearly impossible to find USA television coverage of sportscars and F1, I subscribed to Autoweek (then a weekly newspaper out of Detroit) while in college (1968-72). Racing coverage was excellent and blow-by-blow. Not like being there, but each week's delivery was very much anticipated. These old films bring back the excitement of what I read but never actually saw. PS I wish the film crew had recorded the sound of those Matras. Extremely loud! And V-12! While Matra was not competitive at Sebring in 1970, they eventually won LeMans three running, 1972-74. Alas, Matra Racing, even Matra itself, is long gone.
I'm inclined to believe James Garner as "The Real Deal" since both G. Hill & Jochen Rindt mentioned that he could have been in F1 had he not already embarked on a Hollywood career. Garner & Newman were both on the committee to get the Ontario (California) circuit successfully established.
I noticed in the last pit stop with Andretti getting out of his car; it shows that Sebring was using Le Mans rules for the race; as back in that era, whenever a car pitted, the driver *had to leave* his vehicle during the stop.
One of the years we went to Florida, we drove past there, I pointed it out but we kept going, Dad was an ex-racer too. Fair to say I was a little disappointed.
I lived in Tampa on the West Coast and in 1976, my Dad came down from Connecticut and we went to the 12 hr. race at Sebring. I was a Marketing Representative for aetna Ins. Co and my agent in Sebring was Ford Heacock, so I got out to Sebring once each month and got to drive around part of the track.
Steve McQueen was the REAL DEAL!!..an actor who also was a professional race car driver..only 8 seconds slower than his team mate but with a broken foot!!.
So much so, he gave away Hollywood and had a successful international career racing top flight race cars all over the world, alongside Andretti, Elford, Redman, Ahrens, Bell, Giunti, Vaccarella, Ickx, Peterson... Hey, wait, that all happened in a dream!
@@johnnyzee383 I read words from a respected motor racing fan/photographer/journalist that McQueen was at his best 8 seconds slower than Revson per lap at Sebring. Peter was no slouch. But 8 seconds would never have gotten the handsome Hollywood actor a seat anywhere with any team.
If you do a deep dig into the background facts....there was a mixup in timing and Revson/McQueen "actually" won......but he didn't want to contest the outcome for looking like a spoiled actor....he was fine for 2nd which was remarkable in any event.
@@miichaelneri4687 ...my understanding was that a protest was possible...but McQueen decided not to proceed with the protest as an official action..... for the bad optics it presented....ie....spoiled and famous movie star complaining. He was still suitably amazed and happy with a 2nd place finish.....with a taped-up cast too !!!
@@TheWilferch I heard Ferrari paid off the officials....... I heard they kept good count who was first. And Steve knew about the payoff but decided to act like a gentleman about it. Again just a rumor.....
Andretti was famous fro breaking transmissions. Heck, I saw him break one at Pocono. Some drivers are all "win or crash." Andretti was more like "I wonder what the inside of this gearbox looks like."
I saw him break the box in his Lotus F5000 at Sebring, December, 1969 Pulled over after the hairpin, came thru the fence by our camp site.... Sat with a cold glass of Moselle.... We kids never took BEER! A cooler full of German wine! A warm race for that time of year.... then he went back and found a gear to get back to the pits. Won by David Hobbs, Surtees-Ford, one heat and a F-1 Brabham Cosworth took the other... Gus somebody... FIRST DFV heard there.. Tony a2z DNF Eagle 5000 but won the F5000 Championship... Got him his rides with NART! Swede Savage was leading in another Eagle/Plymouth.... but ran out of fuel.. That's racing! J.C.
I've read a different version. Ferrari team manager Forghieri had accepted losing the race. But Andretti was sick of hearing the announcers say that McQueen was winning the race, when in reality the car was being driven by Revson like it was for the vast majority of the race (these days there are minimum stints for shared cars, so McQueen would have had to drive much more, likely taking them out of contention). So he asked Forghieri to take the final stint and he managed to win the race. Also note at the time there was no drivers' championship in Sports Cars racing so it didn't matter who drove what car.
My wife and I were married in June 1976 and went to Florida on our honeymoon. We drove over to Sebring and found the gates wide open and the track totally empty. We said "What the heck!" and drove onto the track and went up and down the pit straight a couple of times in her 1972 Chevy Vega with snow tires on the back. 😂
All I can say is thank you Chris Economaki , thank you Steve McQueen, thank you Dan Gurney, thank you Jacky Ickx.....also thank you Porsche , thank you Ferrari.
Andretti and Gurney always said that Revson raced the car home to second place, McQueen was too slow to do anything but keep the car on the road for his stints (which were minimal lap counts). Andretti and a failing gearbox...I recall that as a constant story with Mario and road racing cars in the 70s until he got into the Lotus F1 car in 1978 and won the title.
I know that SMQ is over-rated but,...... You know that the whole show in motorsports is the show? You gotta get butts in the seats. Motorheads like us love the fuel stops and tire changes. Guys like McQueen make that possible. Personally, I love it when Keanu Reaves shows up at GP events! Ain't gonna lie, bro.
Driving this particular race with a broken foot. It is generally acknowledged that McQueen was fast by the professional drivers. As a secondary, he was as fast as they came.
Bianchi, Bonnier, Rindt, Peterson, Scarfiotti, Savage.... 2 in 25 per year, on average... ALL BUT MY LIFE, THE CRUEL SPORT, THE NEW MATADORS.. RUSH, Le Mans..... Not fiction! John McLean at The Hairpin, 1966, Team Comstock GT-40 Mk.I... Trapped by the doors.. Roll over, smoke inhalation.... Sebring Fire Dept. was clueless... Deputies used cattle prods on those of us trying to extract him.. I broke a brass knock off hammer on the Lexan... No one could find an AXE! Car then burned with him in it... A horrible smell.... You do not want to know... J.C.
Nikki Lauda had something to say about the yearly deaths he observed all around him.... "What kind of man does this job....??" etc.... I saw Canadian GT-40 driver John McLean burn to death in front of my eyes, Sebring 1966 at The Hairpin... only such I witnessed 1964 -1973 FLA races But those I mentioned happened in MY TIMES! Some I knew personally as a journalist. Bianchi, Courage, Bonnier.... not from interviews From sharing a glass of ice cold wine, observations of car behaviors... Other drivers... mechanics... MY heroes... J.C.
@@oz2strokeman116 because there was a very high rate if deaths from the 50s through the 70s....... You don't remember Jacky ickx protest? Ironically Pedro would desigree with him.... Stating the danger was part of the charm.....
If I remember right Steve only drove for 1 or 2 hours. Pete did the lion's share of the driving, so it should say "Peter Revson finishes 2nd to Mario".
And Mario jumped into a car driven for 11 hours by two other drivers, to drive the last hour. The other drivers put the car into position to win, but Super Mario gets the glory.
@@ricardoantonio5085 It makes you wonder do we know Mario's name and not the other drivers, because throughout his career the owners made these decisions, or was he the better driver.
@@bigredc222 He was a great driver, that's why they put him in that car at the end. His car which had been ahead of that car broke, as stated in the video. Ferrari wanted one of their cars to win, so when they had just one car left, they put the driver they believed to be the fastest into it. Ferrari has a history of doing things like that. They also have a history of being hard to work with as drivers.
On TV, the cars always appear to be under total control. In person, though, you can see that they're just barely under control, appearing to be just on the edge of flying out of a curve sideways, with traction just barely holding on by a hair.
@@mrjohnirons yea I heard Steve won but the meatballs at Ferrari bought out the officials..... it was their first prototype win since the rise of the gt40s and they really wanted it.....
So glad to be able to recall that era, and earlier. Had not heard Masten Gregory's name in decades! In retrospect, in all the years he drove it is too bad that Mario never grasped that it was better to lead at the end instead of halfway. (of course there were exceptions)
Peter Revson drove most of the race by some estimates eight ( 8 ) or nine ( 9 ) hours of the twelve ( 12 ) hours, McQueen was losing eight seconds a lap compared to Revson’s times. The Porsche 908 was the winner of the under 3 liter class. TK
Seems like there were no drive time limits at Sebring at that time. I think there were limits placed by the ACO at LeMans after Pierre Levegh's attempted full 24 hour stint in 1953. There are limits at Sebring today.
@@chrisbarker3034 I don't think anyone is saying that McQueen wasn't fast as a driver, as a rider, that he wasn't a good actor or good looking or"the king of cool", but with or without a broken foot Revson was faster and Gurney, Ickx and Cevert were handsomer.
Man that was great ! Just think, if Peter Revson had a "real" driver as team mate they would have won on a 908... (or if Steve was 5 - 6 seconds faster) Great job from Andretti !
Revson had a "real" driver... with a broken foot. Apparently, Porsche felt that McQueen was the driver they wanted in the seat. Management recruits the team around their agenda. Who knows what their agenda was. That was a very long time ago.
@@MrGaryGG48 McQueen owned the car, it was not a factory car, Porsche had nothing to do with who was driving it or repairing it. McQueen was a private entry into the race, by virtue of him winning a qualifying race in California earlier. McQueen hired Revson just before the race. McQueen had just bought the car earlier that same year, he was a phenomenal driver.
@@harryberry474 Harry, you're definitely correct regarding McQueen's driving ability, whether he was on 4 wheels or 2. I believe the commenter above my entry made reference to a "real driver." These are all some pretty old recollections being discussed but there are too many accounts of Steve's abilities for me to list them. I've worked with quite a few capable drivers over the years and he was as good or better than most. Having the funds to pursue his goals didn't hurt! He has been missed for a long time...
There is a vid here When NASCAR raced at Le Mans, you can hear in this when the v8 Corvettes go by. PS At LM, whine, whine, whine, roar when the Camaro goes by. PS Next door at work is Road Scholars and I get to see these cars now and then
Pescarolo and Servoz Gavin 5th, 6 laps behind. Gurney and Cevert 12th. That car was more than 30 laps behind so it must have been pitted for long repairs.
@@jasonsimpkins8526 Funnily enough Le Mans film (1971) was on TV yesterday noon. . .decided to watch it as not seen for over 45 years-ish!! Looking at the cars. . .MILLIONS of £££££/$$$$ now!! all collectors items etc. . .
@@bloqk16 It's a weird one. I am 53 years of age and have never called it the nine seventeen. What do you call the 956? Regarding Porsche road cars I don't think I have ever heard the 911 called the nine one one but the 924, 928 and 944 are always called the nine two four, nine two eight and nine four four and not nine twenty four etc by me. What do you call those road cars?
@@Ellemerob Something I should have included in my previous comment: The numbering pronunciation of the Porsche _nine seventeen_ is based upon the English spoken in the US. I realize that English pronunciation can differ in other countries. Here's a tip with regards to finding a guide to get the pronunciation of the various Porsche "Nine" model sports cars: Do a Google search with the words _UA-cam_ _Porsche_ followed by the number of the car; here's an example: _UA-cam Porsche 956_ . The result should take you to videos of that particular Nine numbered car model, where you'll hear the words spoken on the model's number pronunciation in the videos.
@@bloqk16 Amusing video. Derek Bell referring to the 917 as the nine seventeen but interviewer Peter Windsor referring to it as the nine one seven. ua-cam.com/video/3mM1Ms0vqjc/v-deo.html
Can't have a 70's car racing documentary without BONGO'S.
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What is BONGOS?
@@pk-fi1ok These are bongos. ua-cam.com/video/QCY3q2mE-kY/v-deo.html
@@DChrls lol thank you :))
Hell yea dude
I remember those race years. Brutal fast cars, great drivers from all over the world. Great cars and drivers.
Just look at that beautiful Ferrari 512S! What a stunning racing machine and a winner of this thrilling race. Forza Ferrari!
I was there, will never forget all those beautiful cars!
I try to calculate the current value of all those cars in millions. I can't count that high.
I heard John Wyer talk about getting first class in changing wheelhubs for that part of the season. This film was excellent, thank you.
This is just a Classic example of Racing in the Golden Era!! Thanks for posting this video
what an amazing video... holy shit..
im 56 , i was 3 in 1970 , but i would do anything to be there to see those cars and drivers , the generation that i like , my favorite racing car porsche 917 !!!!also steve mcqueen took part , amazing !!!!!! my favorite movie star
I remember I had a Slot Track race set with Cars a lot like these winding around in our basement when I was a kid. I can hear and smell it when I close my eyes.
Man... my cousin build me a Ferrari 512 and we raced on a huge wooden racetrack in a club... great days ... me too I still remember the smells of the tyre aditives, the hot little engines and all that...
I was there...talked to the Gulf Porsche team @ breakfast that morning...post race got to drive my Triumph Spitfire around the track...
good times!!
Grew up in Indy in the 60's. Was great to have a lot of these great racing legends compete in multiple forms of racing. USAC had the Indy 500 plus dirt track. McQueen 278!
I was there. I remember reading an account that Mario was infuriated because Steve McQueen was getting all the publicity despite the fact that his teammate Revson was over 10 seconds a lap faster and was doing most of the driving. Mario simply could not let the Porsche win and drove like a man possessed towards the end.
McQueen was slower however he was driving with a cast on his foot. Revson was a really talented driver and Mario is the greatest driver of all time. Midgets, sprint cars on dirt and pavement, Indy cars, stock cars , F1. He was amazing
Jep, he had a cast on one foot and it even broke as he was driving, I think they fixed it with tape… and I’m sure he gave revsonthe credit he deserved. They still almost beat Andretti in an inferior car, they did rock that day !!
@@964cuploveinferior car!?!?
@@GilturnerknocksoutphonyFloyd, I question your statement about Andretti. Most people, worldwide, would say that Jim Clark was the greatest driver the world has ever seen.
@@GilturnerknocksoutphonyFloyd Steve shouldn’t have raced at Elsinore .. this should’ve been a priority .. but that’s why he was McQueen
For me, the golden era of sports car racing.
Yes, I agree. Also the golden age of boxing, music and muscle cars. IMO
Ahhh, bongo drums, a staple of 60's/70's racing films...😀
Marvelous memories of great men and machines.
Racing movies like this were often shown in post-season at the major international car shows. You might see Indianapolis 500 highlights or coverage of the Can-Am championship. Most of these were produced by team or series sponsors. Show promoters would create a small movie theater where these free films ran one after another. It was always cool to watch, as racing coverage on television was still quite limited.
I remember seeing this on network TV. Definitely prior to the release of the Le Mans movie. Thinking 🤔 maybe even 1970 itself.
Man those 917's....ugh! BADASS!!!
Outstanding footage, thanks alot for posting this! I didn't know that Sebring was part of an airfield, pretty amazing location.
Sebring was bulit in the 1940s as a B17 Bomber training base. After the war it was left to the town and subsequently converted to a race track. Even today parts of the original runway are part of the track: respect the bumps.
Was there in 1972 when the Ferrari 312pb's won. Race track is awesome. Peter Revson got penalized for giving a pit marshall the finger; he drove an Alfa-Romeo T-333p. Still remember numbers of the cars placing 1st thru 5th; 2, 3, 33, 57, 59. The #4 Ferrari 312pb had a gearbox failure, it overheated and the car caught fire...remember that acrid smell of the hot oil coming from the gearbox.
GOOD MEMORY
I was lucky enough to be there for the race. The greatest memory was when Steve McQueen came by picked me up and carried me through the crowd. He asked me how I was liking the race and who was I cheering for..I said him and Peter Revson. When we got in his trailer He introduced me to his wife and said ok sport off you go. He opened the door to his trailer and flashbulbs went off like crazy. I have never found a picture of that event unfortunately. 😢
Bonjour,
Quelle chance exceptionnelle d'avoir pu rencontrer Steve McQueen.
From France .
"Racing ls Life...Anything Before or After ls Just...Waiting Around" (Steve McQueen)
Waiting. Not Waiting around.
Cancer is waiting for him
_"To race is to live; all the rest is simply waiting."_
Rudolph Caracciola (1901-1959)
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Is it just me, the racecars looked way better back then.
hell yeah they do, soooo much innovation and freedom.
Today every car must look aggressive. The old cars looks great.
I guess you know about Group C.
They all did
Definitely, because they were not designed by computer....they were designed by humans. They had a soul. :)
Seppi and McQueen, my childhood heroes
when machines were beasts and men had balls
And Kilpatrick gets a solid 9.5 for his angry helmet throw! He showed good form and excellent distance.
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Check out Tony Stewart's toss at Matt at Bristol. Nice form and used both hands
@@lewiskemp5893 It's all in the follow-through man, it's in the follow-through!! 🤣👍
If I haven’t thanked you yet ... thank you, I love this video!!!!😻
I was 4yrs.old.wow thanks for sharing.🏁🏁
Those days one could identify the cars by their exhaust music.
Kyalami 9 hour. Classic racing
This is a film that could stand some digital love. Cleaning up the scratches and bringing that color cack to life, for starters.
I am a nostalgia hot rod artist,, because just about every or any car venue there were so many race cars that looked like sculptural works of art. The Ferraris, Porsches, jeez,,
Fantastic! A Ballet of Beauty. Thanks for sharing, appreciate it a lot.
Greets from the Netherlands 🌷, T.
I was there. Nothing prepared me for the spectacle of seeing, hearing and feeling in your chest of the Chaparral.
Lembro dessa corrida e da manchete do jornal: "Final cinematográfico nas 12 Horas de Sebring!". Corrida fantástica, inesquecível. Tenho saudades desse tempo em que as corridas eram mais autênticas e tinha nomes como Dan Gurney, François Cévert, Masten Gregory, Vic Elford, Peter Revson, Richard Atwood, Henri Pescarolo, Johnny Servoz-Gavin, Jacky Ickx, Mario Andretti, Nino Vacarella, Arturo Merzario, Leo Kinnunen, Jo Siffert... além do incomparável engenheiro Mauro Forghieri !!! Ferrari, Corvette, Matra, Alfa Romeo, Porsche, Lola, Ford... Que saudades! Como eram bonitas as Ferrari 512 e as Porsche 917!
1970. My favourite Sebring 12 Hours of all time. Apart from 1983, 1967, 1966 and 1995.
Paul Newman was another blue-eyed actor of that era who was the real deal, with many wins in the SCCA classes.
And a podium at Le Mans!
@racketman2u - I live just 1/2 hour from Lime Rock Park in Connecticut, and they just commemorated Paul Newman by naming the back straight "The Paul Newman Straightaway." Lime Rock was his home track and I had the pleasure of watching him win many races there. By the way, he won 7 SCCA National Championships!
Thank you so much for posting this.... I'm blown away....
Given nearly impossible to find USA television coverage of sportscars and F1, I subscribed to Autoweek (then a weekly newspaper out of Detroit) while in college (1968-72). Racing coverage was excellent and blow-by-blow. Not like being there, but each week's delivery was very much anticipated. These old films bring back the excitement of what I read but never actually saw.
PS I wish the film crew had recorded the sound of those Matras. Extremely loud! And V-12! While Matra was not competitive at Sebring in 1970, they eventually won LeMans three running, 1972-74. Alas, Matra Racing, even Matra itself, is long gone.
9:18 Hilarious Ferrari "Italian" Pit Stop!
Who won the race in the end? That's right, Ferrari did. I bet it was hilarious when they were sipping champagne on the victory lane once again.
Steve McQueen was the real deal. Even better on a motorcycle.
Paul Newman as well
I'm inclined to believe James Garner as "The Real Deal" since both G. Hill & Jochen Rindt mentioned that he could have been in F1 had he not already embarked on a Hollywood career.
Garner & Newman were both on the committee to get the Ontario (California) circuit successfully established.
@@maxmulsanne7054garner was a class act too
I was there in the pits but didn't bring a camera that year. Missed some good shots.
Peter Revson is the real hero here. Good film in a great era.
RIP PETER REVSON
Semplicemente fantastico!!!
Can't have a 70's car racing documentary without an opening British military band a la Grand Prix (the movie) :)
Great video.
I noticed in the last pit stop with Andretti getting out of his car; it shows that Sebring was using Le Mans rules for the race; as back in that era, whenever a car pitted, the driver *had to leave* his vehicle during the stop.
Miner hats with lights in pits at night...classic!
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I was there in the Porsche pits best race ever!Mario drove like a man possessed did not want to lose to an actor! He didn’t!
One of the years we went to Florida, we drove past there, I pointed it out but we kept going, Dad was an ex-racer too. Fair to say I was a little disappointed.
Maybe it wasent your dad driving the car that day..?
I lived in Tampa on the West Coast and in 1976, my Dad came down from Connecticut and we went to the 12 hr. race at Sebring. I was a Marketing Representative for aetna Ins. Co and my agent in Sebring was Ford Heacock, so I got out to Sebring once each month and got to drive around part of the track.
🥰👍🏁🏎️🏆I was born that year 1970
Steve McQueen was the REAL DEAL!!..an actor who also was a professional race car driver..only 8 seconds slower than his team mate but with a broken foot!!.
So much so, he gave away Hollywood and had a successful international career racing top flight race cars all over the world, alongside Andretti, Elford, Redman, Ahrens, Bell, Giunti, Vaccarella, Ickx, Peterson...
Hey, wait, that all happened in a dream!
@@BrettHart27 lol..yes for a mere mortal one would assume one was dreaming....
@@johnnyzee383
Professional means being paid for an occupation. McQueen was paid by which team or teams and how many times?
@@BrettHart27 What I meant by that statement was that at the time, he was seemingly on equal footing with the PROFESSIONALS that were racing.
@@johnnyzee383
I read words from a respected motor racing fan/photographer/journalist that McQueen was at his best 8 seconds slower than Revson per lap at Sebring. Peter was no slouch. But 8 seconds would never have gotten the handsome Hollywood actor a seat anywhere with any team.
If you do a deep dig into the background facts....there was a mixup in timing and Revson/McQueen "actually" won......but he didn't want to contest the outcome for looking like a spoiled actor....he was fine for 2nd which was remarkable in any event.
I believe there was a protest, but was decided that the Farrari had won.
@@miichaelneri4687 ...my understanding was that a protest was possible...but McQueen decided not to proceed with the protest as an official action..... for the bad optics it presented....ie....spoiled and famous movie star complaining. He was still suitably amazed and happy with a 2nd place finish.....with a taped-up cast too !!!
@@TheWilferch top 10 optics checks of all time
@@TheWilferch I heard Ferrari paid off the officials....... I heard they kept good count who was first. And Steve knew about the payoff but decided to act like a gentleman about it. Again just a rumor.....
@@MiguelGarcia-vj7oo ...no idea....but a lot of evidence points to a McQueen win....incredible as it is.
Andretti was famous fro breaking transmissions. Heck, I saw him break one at Pocono. Some drivers are all "win or crash." Andretti was more like "I wonder what the inside of this gearbox looks like."
I saw him break the box in his Lotus F5000 at Sebring, December, 1969
Pulled over after the hairpin, came thru the fence by our camp site....
Sat with a cold glass of Moselle....
We kids never took BEER! A cooler full of German wine!
A warm race for that time of year....
then he went back and found a gear to get back to the pits.
Won by David Hobbs, Surtees-Ford, one heat and a F-1 Brabham Cosworth took the other...
Gus somebody... FIRST DFV heard there..
Tony a2z DNF Eagle 5000 but won the F5000 Championship...
Got him his rides with NART!
Swede Savage was leading in another Eagle/Plymouth.... but ran out of fuel..
That's racing!
J.C.
@@375GTB Great story! Thanks for sharing.
I've read a different version. Ferrari team manager Forghieri had accepted losing the race. But Andretti was sick of hearing the announcers say that McQueen was winning the race, when in reality the car was being driven by Revson like it was for the vast majority of the race (these days there are minimum stints for shared cars, so McQueen would have had to drive much more, likely taking them out of contention). So he asked Forghieri to take the final stint and he managed to win the race. Also note at the time there was no drivers' championship in Sports Cars racing so it didn't matter who drove what car.
Ask Andretti
He was there
Like I was
1964 -1973
Last two years as a motoring journalist...
J.C.
My wife and I were married in June 1976 and went to Florida on our honeymoon. We drove over to Sebring and found the gates wide open and the track totally empty. We said "What the heck!" and drove onto the track and went up and down the pit straight a couple of times in her 1972 Chevy Vega with snow tires on the back. 😂
All I can say is thank you Chris Economaki , thank you Steve McQueen, thank you Dan Gurney, thank you Jacky Ickx.....also thank you Porsche , thank you Ferrari.
Andretti and Gurney always said that Revson raced the car home to second place, McQueen was too slow to do anything but keep the car on the road for his stints (which were minimal lap counts). Andretti and a failing gearbox...I recall that as a constant story with Mario and road racing cars in the 70s until he got into the Lotus F1 car in 1978 and won the title.
The word that got around to me after the race was that Revson drove at least nine of those 12 hours at Sebring in 1970.
I know that SMQ is over-rated but,...... You know that the whole show in motorsports is the show? You gotta get butts in the seats. Motorheads like us love the fuel stops and tire changes. Guys like McQueen make that possible. Personally, I love it when Keanu Reaves shows up at GP events! Ain't gonna lie, bro.
Driving this particular race with a broken foot. It is generally acknowledged that McQueen was fast by the professional drivers. As a secondary, he was as fast as they came.
The rollcage loop is actually below the top of the helmet on some of the car’s!
Fantastic movie
Raise your hands if you remember Chris Economaki on Wide World Of Sports, interviewing Jackie Stewart who later became Chris Economaki....
Dan gurney for president.(I wish)!!🏁🏁🤔
No kidding! 🇺🇸
Missed 1970, Sebring was an endurance race to start with. Now it is a 12 hour sprint. Cars are just better
now.
Revson, Cevert, Siffert, Rodriguez, Courage...tragically, all killed within four years of this race.
😢😢😢
Bianchi, Bonnier, Rindt, Peterson, Scarfiotti, Savage.... 2 in 25 per year, on average...
ALL BUT MY LIFE, THE CRUEL SPORT, THE NEW MATADORS..
RUSH, Le Mans.....
Not fiction!
John McLean at The Hairpin, 1966, Team Comstock GT-40 Mk.I... Trapped by the doors..
Roll over, smoke inhalation....
Sebring Fire Dept. was clueless...
Deputies used cattle prods on those of us trying to extract him..
I broke a brass knock off hammer on the Lexan...
No one could find an AXE!
Car then burned with him in it...
A horrible smell....
You do not want to know...
J.C.
Consider all those who weren't. Always someone brings up the deaths. Sorry Uncle Ned don't mean to be rude, got a toothache.
Nikki Lauda had something to say about the yearly deaths he observed all around him....
"What kind of man does this job....??" etc....
I saw Canadian GT-40 driver John McLean burn to death in front of my eyes,
Sebring 1966 at The Hairpin... only such I witnessed 1964 -1973 FLA races
But those I mentioned happened in MY TIMES!
Some I knew personally as a journalist.
Bianchi, Courage, Bonnier.... not from interviews
From sharing a glass of ice cold wine, observations of car behaviors...
Other drivers... mechanics...
MY heroes...
J.C.
@@oz2strokeman116 because there was a very high rate if deaths from the 50s through the 70s....... You don't remember Jacky ickx protest? Ironically Pedro would desigree with him.... Stating the danger was part of the charm.....
Revson carried McQueen driving most of the stints. Every time McQueen got in the car he list gobs of time that Peter would have to claw back.
To be fair, he did have a broken foot.
Yeah well, it wasn’t his day job, was it?
@@fifthbusiness1678 Well, unlike McQueen, I would guess about 99.988 percent of Americans never rocketed down the Ullman Straight.
There is a great book about this race by a photographer, I think his name was Hurst
Fantastico 👍👍👍🏁🏁🏁🏁
If I remember right Steve only drove for 1 or 2 hours. Pete did the lion's share of the driving, so it should say "Peter Revson finishes 2nd to Mario".
And Mario jumped into a car driven for 11 hours by two other drivers, to drive the last hour. The other drivers put the car into position to win, but Super Mario gets the glory.
@@ricardoantonio5085 thank you for this info
@@ricardoantonio5085 It makes you wonder do we know Mario's name and not the other drivers, because throughout his career the owners made these decisions, or was he the better driver.
@@bigredc222 He was a great driver, that's why they put him in that car at the end. His car which had been ahead of that car broke, as stated in the video. Ferrari wanted one of their cars to win, so when they had just one car left, they put the driver they believed to be the fastest into it. Ferrari has a history of doing things like that. They also have a history of being hard to work with as drivers.
On TV, the cars always appear to be under total control. In person, though, you can see that they're just barely under control, appearing to be just on the edge of flying out of a curve sideways, with traction just barely holding on by a hair.
Lot of people forget that McQueen was a driver. They only think he was an actor
Could we agree he was an acting driver then?
The same situation with Paul Newman!
If you're going to be second to anyone.....who better but Mario Andretti..!!
Damn...I never knew this...!
He broke it racing dirt bikes the weekend previous and was also entered for the Mint 400 later that weekend. He scratched that one.
Less rules= more fun.
The seventies are the best decade in human hirstory, no Doubt about it!
How many gears left? 1st and reverse.
Heroic cars!
Mario says he didn’t think the car would finish and than says he never lost faith after they won.
He was right. That car did not finish - it was a different team car that won the race.
@@mrjohnirons yea I heard Steve won but the meatballs at Ferrari bought out the officials..... it was their first prototype win since the rise of the gt40s and they really wanted it.....
"and then "
So glad to be able to recall that era, and earlier. Had not heard Masten Gregory's name in decades! In retrospect, in all the years he drove it is too bad that Mario never grasped that it was better to lead at the end instead of halfway. (of course there were exceptions)
Peter Revson drove most of the race by some estimates eight ( 8 ) or nine ( 9 ) hours of the twelve ( 12 ) hours, McQueen was losing eight seconds a lap compared to Revson’s times. The Porsche 908 was the winner of the under 3 liter class.
TK
It ain't easy. And even in F1, Peter Revson belonged to the absolute elite.
Seems like there were no drive time limits at Sebring at that time. I think there were limits placed by the ACO at LeMans after Pierre Levegh's attempted full 24 hour stint in 1953. There are limits at Sebring today.
The fact that Steve was only 8s a lap slower with a broken foot proves he was the equal of any of them.
@@chrisbarker3034 I don't think anyone is saying that McQueen wasn't fast as a driver, as a rider, that he wasn't a good actor or good looking or"the king of cool", but with or without a broken foot Revson was faster and Gurney, Ickx and Cevert were handsomer.
Very cool !!!!!
Steve McQueen - The Hero of all Heroes!!
1969-й же, разве нет?
Man that was great ! Just think, if Peter Revson had a "real" driver as team mate they would have won on a 908... (or if Steve was 5 - 6 seconds faster) Great job from Andretti !
Revson had a "real" driver... with a broken foot. Apparently, Porsche felt that McQueen was the driver they wanted in the seat. Management recruits the team around their agenda. Who knows what their agenda was. That was a very long time ago.
@@MrGaryGG48 McQueen owned the car, it was not a factory car, Porsche had nothing to do with who was driving it or repairing it. McQueen was a private entry into the race, by virtue of him winning a qualifying race in California earlier. McQueen hired Revson just before the race. McQueen had just bought the car earlier that same year, he was a phenomenal driver.
@@markdavis9148 Thanks Mark. I hadn't heard that part of the story.
@@MrGaryGG48 ...Did you mean healthy driver? Because Steve McQueen was as real as they come. His passion was racing his job was acting.
@@harryberry474 Harry, you're definitely correct regarding McQueen's driving ability, whether he was on 4 wheels or 2. I believe the commenter above my entry made reference to a "real driver." These are all some pretty old recollections being discussed but there are too many accounts of Steve's abilities for me to list them. I've worked with quite a few capable drivers over the years and he was as good or better than most. Having the funds to pursue his goals didn't hurt! He has been missed for a long time...
Leo Kinnunen - Finland's first Kimi ♠️🏁♠️☃️
How 70'ish can it get ...
There is a vid here When NASCAR raced at Le Mans, you can hear in this when the v8 Corvettes go by. PS At LM, whine, whine, whine, roar when the Camaro goes by. PS Next door at work is Road Scholars and I get to see these cars now and then
Ing . Forghieri !!
SI FORGHIERI NEI SUOI PRIMI ANNI IN RACING! UOMO D`ONORE!
Designer of the legendary 312T and the hardest working man in racing
Henri Pescarolo est là !
Peter Revson finishes 2nd, he was 10 seconds a lap quicker than Steve McQueen.
Siffert! :) 😍
What happened to the Matras?
Pescarolo and Servoz Gavin 5th, 6 laps behind. Gurney and Cevert 12th. That car was more than 30 laps behind so it must have been pitted for long repairs.
@@williamford9564 thank you!
to do better and better to arrive to the perfection
Gr8 days. . .But Dangerous. . .
@@jasonsimpkins8526 Funnily enough Le Mans film (1971) was on TV yesterday noon. . .decided to watch it as not seen for over 45 years-ish!! Looking at the cars. . .MILLIONS of £££££/$$$$ now!! all collectors items etc. . .
Beaucoup de ces pilotes se sont tués hélas, incroyable de les voir.....je pense aux frères Rodriguez, Nino Vaccarella et autres
FERRARI 330 P1 & FERRARI 512 M 512 CODALUNGA & PORCHE 917 SH LH PORCHE 918 LH SH & CORVETTE STINGRAY 572 808 LOLA & PRAGA & MATRA -MCLAREN AND MORE
I think reason was mario's teammate
12:35 hilarious :D
you could switch cars??
Yes. It was allowed by rules back in those days.
What do you called the 917? Nine seventeen or what I have always called it the nine one seven?
Having lived in that era, it was referred to as *nine-seventeen.*
@@bloqk16 It's a weird one. I am 53 years of age and have never called it the nine seventeen. What do you call the 956?
Regarding Porsche road cars I don't think I have ever heard the 911 called the nine one one but the 924, 928 and 944 are always called the nine two four, nine two eight and nine four four and not nine twenty four etc by me. What do you call those road cars?
@@Ellemerob Something I should have included in my previous comment: The numbering pronunciation of the Porsche _nine seventeen_ is based upon the English spoken in the US. I realize that English pronunciation can differ in other countries.
Here's a tip with regards to finding a guide to get the pronunciation of the various Porsche "Nine" model sports cars: Do a Google search with the words _UA-cam_ _Porsche_ followed by the number of the car; here's an example: _UA-cam Porsche 956_ . The result should take you to videos of that particular Nine numbered car model, where you'll hear the words spoken on the model's number pronunciation in the videos.
In Germany,we call it a Nine seventeen. Also it`s a Nine eleven,a Nine fiftysix,or a Nine fourtyfour.
@@bloqk16 Amusing video. Derek Bell referring to the 917 as the nine seventeen but interviewer Peter Windsor referring to it as the nine one seven.
ua-cam.com/video/3mM1Ms0vqjc/v-deo.html
20:44 ???
forza ferrari
"how many gears are left?"
Really?
# 48 Reveson / McQueen Porsche number 2.