Understanding the Tesla Model S Performance Motor

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  • Опубліковано 28 тра 2024
  • Join me for a deep dive into the details of the 18,000 RPM performance rear motor and drive unit from a 2015-2016 Tesla Model S P90D. This drive unit is similar to the one used in the 2017-2020 P100D. The video is divided into four sections showing: 1. The motor and gears. 2. The high-performance bearings. 3. The lubrication system. and 4. The cooling system.
    CORRECTIONS:
    Thank you to everyone for catching my errors. There are always errors ;)
    1. The Nissan Leaf ring gear is held on with 8 bolts, not 6.
    2. The fluid in this drive unit is Dexron 6 transmission fluid.
    3. Induction motor rotors do not have poles, just the stator. The 60 slot stator has four poles.
    4. Silicon Nitride is a ceramic material.
    TIMELINE:
    0:00 Start
    0:10 Introduction
    1:35 Gearbox housing
    2:10 Video Section 1 - Gears and Motor Rotor
    2:45 The giant differential ring gear with 16-bolts!
    4:20 The giant differential case bearings
    4:50 The differential case speed at 250 km/h (155 mph) = 1841 RPM
    5:15 MUST SEE Comparing the Tesla 213mm x 50mm. ring gear with 78 teeth (Factors 2, 3, 13) to a Chevrolet Bolt EV and Nissan Leaf EV
    5:40 A Chevrolet Bolt EV differential 198mm x 34.3mm ring gear with 12-bolts.
    6:10 A Nissan Leaf EV differential 200mm x 32mm ring gear with 8-bolts!
    7:30 The Counter Shaft (Jack Shaft) with 25 (Factors 5, 5) pinion gear teeth. 78/25 = 3.12:1 Gear ratio from countershaft to the differential case
    8:50 The countershaft speed at 250 km/h (155 mph) = 5743 RPM
    9:30 The motor shaft with 25 teeth drives 78 teeth on the countershaft for another gear reduction of 78/25 = 3.12:1
    10:08 The motor shaft speed at 250 km/h (155 mph) = 17,919 RPM
    11:20 See all three gears in the reduction gearbox with an overall gear reduction of (78/25) x (78/25) = 9.7344:1
    12:05 MUST SEE The AC Induction Motor Rotor with 74 bars
    13:25 Motor specifications for power, torque, and gear ratio
    15:00 MUST SEE Ceramic Bearings (Silicon Nitride) on the rotor from the SKF Group (skf.com)
    16:22 MUST SEE Close up view of silicon nitride bearing
    18:20 The motor rotor speed sensor reluctor wheel (tone ring)
    19:22 Must SEE The rotor installed on the drive gear and the functioning gearbox
    20:18 Video Section 2 - Specialized Bearings
    21:21 The 60 slot four-pole stator and housing
    23:05 The oil pump and how it is overdriven by the differential ring gear 23/78 = 0.2948:1 gear ratio (3.339 times faster than the ring gear)
    23:55 MUST SEE The function of the oil pump (it may surprise you)
    26:27 Motor shaft (Input Shaft) bearing reference speed and limiting speeds
    27:30 How to run bearings at higher speeds than their limiting speeds
    29:54 Video Section 3 - Lubrication
    30:25 Drain and fill plug locations
    30:50 Gearbox vent and inverter vents
    31:05 Sport model label
    31:39 MUST SEE Four different sealed areas in the drive unit
    32:46 Video Section 4 - Cooling System
    33:30 MUST SEE The coolant inlet port and the two paths coolant takes
    33:53 Up for rotor cooling and gearbox cooling
    35:03 Down for stator and inverter cooling
    36:05 Coolant from the rotor moves to the gearbox heat exchanger and the outlet port
    37:25 Stator temperature sensors
    38:10 Coolant from the stator to the inverter coolant passages
    38:28 Stator coolant temperature sensor
    38:35 MUST SEE Insulated-Gate Bi-Polar Transistor (IGBT) module coolant passages and flow through gearbox passages
    40:34 Inverter coolant outlet temperature sensor
    40:45 The gearbox oil-to-coolant heat exchanger
    41:38 Coolant outlet port to coolant pump and onboard charger module under the back seat.
    41:55 Drive unit cooling system summary
    43:04 IGBT inverter modules installed and inverter cover
    43:40 High voltage battery cable connections and low voltage connections at the inverter
    44:35 Video summary
    ABOUT US
    Weber State University (WSU) Davis Campus - Automotive Technology Department - Advanced Vehicles Lab. A technical description and demonstration of the Tesla P90D Rear Drive Unit (RDU). We teach current vehicle technologies to our automotive students at Weber State University and online. For more information visit: www.weber.edu/automotive
    This video was created and edited by Professor John D. Kelly at WSU. For a full biography, see www.weber.edu/automotive/J_Kel...
    Visit my other youtube channel / vibratesoftware to see the amazing NVH app for vibration diagnosis!
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 3,7 тис.

  • @WeberAuto
    @WeberAuto  3 роки тому +838

    CORRECTIONS:
    1. The Nissan Leaf ring gear is held on with 8 bolts. Apparently, I can not count today! Thank you to everyone for catching my error. There are always errors ;)
    2. To my great surprise, I was wrong about the fluid in this drive unit, it actually is Dexron 6 transmission fluid!
    3. Tesla states that this is a four-pole motor. Induction motor rotors do not have poles, just the stator. The stator has four poles. Thank you to everyone for catching my error.
    4. Silicon Nitride is a ceramic material. I was wrong to say the rotors bearing balls were not ceramic. Thank you to everyone for catching my error.

    • @haulngrassracing
      @haulngrassracing 3 роки тому +15

      Hey professor John, just got a Chrysler Pacifica Hybrid. I’ve seen your video on the gear reduction gearbox but are you planning on doing a break down on the hybrid battery? Thanks for your videos and as alway another great video and explanation.

    • @WeberAuto
      @WeberAuto  3 роки тому +9

      @@haulngrassracing Thank you, I would like to if I could get my hands on one.

    • @haulngrassracing
      @haulngrassracing 3 роки тому +24

      @@WeberAuto Well I would loan you our 2018 but I don’t think my wife would be so understanding 🤣

    • @WeberAuto
      @WeberAuto  3 роки тому +12

      @@haulngrassracing LOL! Probably not

    • @lorrinbarth1969
      @lorrinbarth1969 3 роки тому +5

      You're like me, one, two, three, many.

  • @romang9634
    @romang9634 3 роки тому +595

    2 hours after release, 2000 views, 270 thumbs up and 0 thumbs down. This tells something about the quality of the material. Thank you professor.

    • @WeberAuto
      @WeberAuto  3 роки тому +36

      Thank you very much!

    • @conelval
      @conelval 3 роки тому +16

      Unbelievable how can someone give thumbs down to such a great and well-explained video...

    • @WeberAuto
      @WeberAuto  3 роки тому +5

      @@conelval Thank you

    • @trumpetmaris
      @trumpetmaris 3 роки тому +10

      @@conelval seriously, can't even imagine a person that would thumbs down this video! perhaps they feel unworthy of the huge amount of information that wouldn't fit in their small brain... lol.

    • @jpdemer5
      @jpdemer5 3 роки тому +10

      @@trumpetmaris Mindless UA-cam trolls find every video eventually. I think they get their jollies by being the first to downvote something, and they certainly don't take the time to watch.

  • @SemihFatihAdem
    @SemihFatihAdem 2 роки тому +10

    Omg we are so lucky to hear these from a professor instead of a youtuber. Thanks for quality content

    • @narrowgoat-scout
      @narrowgoat-scout 7 місяців тому +1

      Professor vibes are always the best. I really began learning at age 15 when I met my first carpentry tutor. Thanks Peter Fletcher 👍

  • @drvr1227
    @drvr1227 3 роки тому +54

    At 9 yrs old I took apart my Grampa's radio cause I wanted to know what made it work. I'm 64 now and still want to know what's inside. Thank you sir for showing me what's inside and how it works. You're the best teacher I wish I'd had.

    • @WeberAuto
      @WeberAuto  3 роки тому +6

      Thank you very much

    • @nmpeter487
      @nmpeter487 3 роки тому +2

      I assume you still have your old radio shack home tube tester someplace..I do...

  • @sandyt4343
    @sandyt4343 3 роки тому +118

    For years I have wondered what the makeup of the Tesla drive system was built like. I doubt that I have ever seen a more concisely explained explanation of any machine. Done with no showy exaggeration or hype, just as good as anyone could hope for. Thank you for your efforts

  • @mickeyj1948
    @mickeyj1948 3 роки тому +13

    I am a 73 year old retired mechanic with above average knowledge of auto electrics and I really enjoyed the professor's detailed explanation of the drive unit. I have subscribed to the site and look forward to more.

  • @ehhhhhhhhhh
    @ehhhhhhhhhh 10 місяців тому +16

    I think my favorite part was the explanation of the cooling system. It blows my mind that engineers can manage to get coolant to the right places in the correct amounts such that the system stays stable for so many years of operation. Thanks so much!

  • @motorv8N
    @motorv8N Рік тому +22

    First rate lecture sir! Although I’m not a professional technician I get a huge amount of pleasure watching and learning from your videos. We recently bought an EV (Mini SE) and I’m itching to take it apart. Sadly my family appears less than enthusiastic about the idea so for now I’ll need to live the dream by watching all your EV drive line tear downs.

  • @kidcasco1966
    @kidcasco1966 3 роки тому +314

    As an engineer, can't get enough. A fantastic and inspirational mechanical engineering talk for not only seasoned but new engineers. Your experience and humility are inspiring. Thank you for taking the time to share your knowledge and perspective. Much love.

    • @WeberAuto
      @WeberAuto  3 роки тому +20

      Glad you enjoyed it

    • @rogervize
      @rogervize 2 роки тому +10

      Also of interest to the general public.. not just engineers.

    • @gentelfix8643
      @gentelfix8643 2 роки тому +2

      Love it.please continue doing dis

    • @JohnHlavaty
      @JohnHlavaty 2 роки тому +3

      A fantastic presentation and an example of excellent teaching.
      'm neither a mechanic nor an engineer. I'm just a city guy who years ago traded a small second mortgage for a classic Mercedes 190 with a cracked head and in need of a restoration. After learning all I could about aluminum motors and restorations, I restored the 190 and sold it for a profit.
      My reason for telling my story was to compliment the professor on his thorough and coherent presentation on the Tesler motor and differential.
      Although my story about the 190 did not detail the restoration (

    • @akradiabra
      @akradiabra 2 роки тому +1

      This (comment above) so much from an appreciative retired UK electrical engineer.

  • @quentinvilli2207
    @quentinvilli2207 3 роки тому +136

    I'm in a wheelchair too and I love cars. I still was surprised when i saw that you were moving on wheels. We shouldn't stand only to stand and judge the wheelchair. thanks for showing everybody that we are still here and pushing hard to do what we like. You are an example, thank you.

    • @WeberAuto
      @WeberAuto  3 роки тому +62

      Thank you very much! Sometimes I forget I am in a wheelchair. You are correct, people in wheelchairs can be very productive and contributing members of society. Thanks for watching

    • @lelandengland2526
      @lelandengland2526 3 роки тому +3

      @@WeberAutog

    • @Mercmad
      @Mercmad 3 роки тому +15

      EV chair coming soon.... (18000 RPM..!)

    • @JP-rf7px
      @JP-rf7px 2 роки тому +2

      @@Mercmad Yes, imagine what Tesla could build to drive a wheelchair! Would need a helmet as you went down the interstate to keep bugs out of teeth!

    • @boostjunkie2320
      @boostjunkie2320 Рік тому +5

      my grand mother had one leg. She was a little league baseball coach in th worst side of time. she worked as a 911 operator and also went sky diving with one leg. she was inspirational to me. how she never let being handicapped hold her back from doing what she wanted to do.She had a modified van that allowed her to drive

  • @SquillyMon
    @SquillyMon 2 роки тому +3

    So what you're saying is... DO-NOT physically damage that housing! Holy Smokes I had no clue of the level of simplicity and complexity going on in that assembly. I suspected as much but this blew my mind. Some adventurous engineering right there!!

  • @razony
    @razony 3 роки тому +3

    I'm pretty much a DA and don't even own a car. I find this guy so interesting at describing all this with his less than zero eggo. Refreshing and I learned something today!
    Loved when he smurked a bit, when he said "Ceramic Balls..."then got all serious. He thought about what he said. Love it!

  • @billmccroskey4595
    @billmccroskey4595 3 роки тому +25

    I enjoy the fact the narrator has disassembled (before reassembling) an actual component with explanations that can be understood by a lay person. Great learning tool by teaching that way.

  • @DCuzick
    @DCuzick 3 роки тому +9

    I wanted to mention that, as a potter, I have uses nitride bonded silicon carbide kiln shelves to fire my pottery for years now. I believe that they are made of the same material as the bearings you mention. I fire my kilns to 2,400°F, though the shelves are only 3/8” thick, 18” X 18”, supported only at the four corners, and holding as much as 100 lb, they do not warp or distort and they are so dense that a molten glaze drip, when cooled, will not stick to the surface of the shelf. Incredible material! Thank you for your very informative and well presented video.

    • @WeberAuto
      @WeberAuto  3 роки тому +1

      Awesome information, thank you!

  • @kevinhansen7576
    @kevinhansen7576 Рік тому +9

    I have wound 3 phase ac motors for a good part of the last twenty years. A 500hp motor typically is around the size of a refrigerator and a 4 pole motor is typically 18 hundred rpm. I am absolutely blown away. Thank you for this video. Very impressive

  • @vkvedam
    @vkvedam 2 роки тому +36

    Excellent, informative, engaging. You are the sort of teacher every mechanical engineer like myself crave for, take a bow Prof John!

  • @1959sdl
    @1959sdl 3 роки тому +58

    Thank you, Professor, I wish all my educators were as well-spoken as you. I would not have nodded off in the lecture hall as many times. As an Aviation Maintenance tech in the turbine engine department for 32 years, I say Bravo.

    • @WeberAuto
      @WeberAuto  3 роки тому +1

      Thank you very much!

  • @sonajuma
    @sonajuma 3 роки тому +162

    This is simply the best of UA-cam, demystifying and inspiring. Added to superb content and presentation, audience centred post-production links for easy navigation and reference. Thank you for creating the gold standard for others to follow.

    • @WeberAuto
      @WeberAuto  3 роки тому +9

      Thank you so much 😀

    • @arts8302
      @arts8302 3 роки тому +1

      @@WeberAuto you say it is dry in there but do we really know whether they put some exotic gas in? I take it the atmosphere gets in through the bearings every time it cools down? I think dry is a matter of degree. Yes the atmosphere is a vapor. It's not clear if he is super drying air by taking it from the evaporative coil area for the cooling system. In terms of the camper mode and the heat pump history this video is helpful to explain that even electric cars in operation produce significant heat and that heat can be reused for passenger comfort as you say is rumored.

    • @WeberAuto
      @WeberAuto  3 роки тому +5

      @@arts8302 I do not know about an exotic gas being in there, but it is possible.

  • @ramzyzoom6674
    @ramzyzoom6674 3 роки тому +5

    I do not speak fluent English. But I was able to understand the speech ... by using clear sentences and words and the sequence of explanations in a simple logical way.
    Thank you...

  • @2029shc
    @2029shc 2 роки тому +1

    Fascinating, and thanks very much. I cut my teeth as an engineering apprentice at Mawdsleys at Dursley in Gloucestershire in the late 1950s, who built a wide variety of motors and generators. Many were for Ward Leonard schemes, surely the pioneer (and then only possible) variable speed electrical drive. Insulating materials were then confined to impregnated paper, cotton tape and native mica! So I find myself re-learning (and trying to remember) things that I knew about, now at age 88! I now run a Renault EV!

  • @MrPatdeeee
    @MrPatdeeee 3 роки тому +15

    Yet another "Gem" from Weber college; through one of THE greatest professors (John Kelly) on this planet; I do believe.
    For I can truly say without hesitation that of all the teachers, professors and instructors throughout my life (turn 89 on April 5th); that John is THE greatest. He is a blessing for sure. Thank you kind Sir. Again, If one can't learn under John, they simply can NOT learn, period IMHO.

    • @WeberAuto
      @WeberAuto  3 роки тому

      Thank you very much! Best wishes

  • @shellderp
    @shellderp 3 роки тому +12

    didn't think I'd watch a 45 minute video on this, but it was fascinating!

    • @WeberAuto
      @WeberAuto  3 роки тому +2

      Thanks for watching. I hear that quite often about my very long videos

  • @scottduede8134
    @scottduede8134 2 роки тому +5

    This is useful in the extreme. Thank you for creating this explanation of the parts that make electric cars go!

  • @tonyc7352
    @tonyc7352 2 роки тому

    You are a great teacher. A big reason why is you are is your genuine enthusiasm for the subject. It doesn't matter how much academic training a teacher has, there is no substitute for love of the subject. Not to say academic training isn't very important and useful, it is.

  • @Battlefresh
    @Battlefresh 3 роки тому +30

    It blows my mind that a single AC motor of this size can put out over 500hp. That's just amazing.

    • @WeberAuto
      @WeberAuto  3 роки тому +4

      I thought the same thing

    • @tachikaze222
      @tachikaze222 3 роки тому +5

      @@WeberAuto I'm sure my first ride in a trimotor next year is going to be a religious experience ; )

    • @WeberAuto
      @WeberAuto  3 роки тому +2

      @@tachikaze222 That sounds like a lot of fun!

    • @blogengeezer4507
      @blogengeezer4507 3 роки тому +2

      Power Grid reserves, the Root source of the tremendous torque/power sequestered inside the storage batteries, are enormous, efficient energy potentials.. if not constrained, restricted, overly regulated..
      Steam power also capable of immense initial torque from relatively small piston, remarkable at time of Industrial Revolution ;}

    • @thoritsu
      @thoritsu 3 роки тому

      Imagine if it were a PM motor, which would be about one-half the size.

  • @williamstewart3469
    @williamstewart3469 3 роки тому +47

    Understanding engineering concepts is quite easy for me, though understanding how Professor John Kelly keeps producing such awesome content on the other hand is much harder to grasp.
    This man was born to teach!
    From a fan in Australia, another bloody good effort mate.

    • @WeberAuto
      @WeberAuto  3 роки тому +3

      Thank you very much!

    • @MJ-iy4fb
      @MJ-iy4fb 3 роки тому +1

      Are you the guy who does the Thompson CVJ video? That's a great piece of mechanical work.

  • @peterloveittloveitt3974
    @peterloveittloveitt3974 2 роки тому +7

    Great video. Often you mention bearings and lube requirements. This made me think of my aviation turbine engine background. 17K RPM is about idle speed for a compressor on many turbines while some ( Allison T-63) turn at 60K + RPM. Being so I would venture that many of the Tesla items might have a Aviation heritage. Turbine engine oils also would be designed for the heat and RPM .

  • @LanceGrey
    @LanceGrey 3 роки тому +1

    Retired '80s era ASE knuckle-buster appreciates your sharing & walking thru that for us, Old Bean. ;)

    • @WeberAuto
      @WeberAuto  3 роки тому +1

      Thanks, I have busted a few of my own in that same era. Thanks for watching

  • @marcstumpe1623
    @marcstumpe1623 3 роки тому +19

    Dear Professor Kelly,
    thank you for this impressive and very well explanatory video.
    As an electronics engineer who works in the field of e-mobility, I can confirm that Tesla has done an excellent job here.
    (That is one of the reasons why I have been driving a Model 3 with great pleasure for almost 2 years).

  • @Mixter81
    @Mixter81 3 роки тому +16

    This is one of the best videos I've seen of explaining the Tesla S series engine and transmission details.
    I'm studying to become an electric/hybrid car mechanic. Thank you so much for showing me all this.

    • @WeberAuto
      @WeberAuto  3 роки тому +3

      You are very welcome

    • @blogengeezer4507
      @blogengeezer4507 3 роки тому +2

      Full electric vehicles weakened/failed across Texas freeze, as the overloaded Grid failed., Hybrids had no such problems ;}

    • @hkelly1623
      @hkelly1623 3 роки тому

      As long as the gasoline stations had electricity to pump the gas out of underground tanks. If a station has an emergency gasoline fueled generator it can operate. The credit card system may not work, though, so they might be cash only.

    • @uploadJ
      @uploadJ 7 місяців тому

      @@blogengeezer4507 A once in 20 to 30 year event; No one goes anywhere in those conditions, so?

  • @tonybryan5181
    @tonybryan5181 2 роки тому +1

    Thank you sir for a most informative, detailed description of the Tesla motor and drive train. A really fascinating dive into the inner workings.
    I especially appreciate your candidness on what is not known for sure,
    Thank you, my friend.

  • @thatlowesguy5544
    @thatlowesguy5544 Рік тому

    You are an amazing teacher. I have a model S P 85 + and looking at upgrading the drive unit after experiencing a whining sound. Feel way more comfortable after watching your video. Thanks!

  • @chenus6544
    @chenus6544 3 роки тому +24

    this time you, professor, are laughing and looking very pleased. Nice to see you more emotional in a good mood. your subscriber from Russian Siberia.

    • @WeberAuto
      @WeberAuto  3 роки тому +5

      It was a lot of fun. Thank you

    • @blogengeezer4507
      @blogengeezer4507 3 роки тому +1

      'Bald and Bankrupt', speaking fluent Russian, tours former USSR, searching for Anything 'Soviet'. Periodically depicts 'junked' ..[due to lack of factory support],..
      luxury vehicles.
      Vehicles that innovative Russians have acquired, Installed Diesel engines, conventional drive trains.
      Brilliant concept, creative individuals, to Really render these complex vehicles ... .... Sustainable ;}

    • @chenus6544
      @chenus6544 3 роки тому +2

      @@blogengeezer4507 Interesting. But I want Russia, from a colorful third world country like African countries, to turn into a boring but developed country like the United States.

  • @williamstewart3469
    @williamstewart3469 3 роки тому +6

    Understanding the high performance teaching skills of the big Professor is a video I'd like to see!
    Another bloody good video Prof.

  • @balkanmuscle
    @balkanmuscle 10 місяців тому +1

    As an Electrical Engineer I enjoyed your video a lot! Wonderful video :)

  • @Hamassucks193
    @Hamassucks193 3 роки тому +2

    Maybe one of the best videos I have seen. Attention to detail not only in the TESLA but also by the presenter, good job sir.

    • @WeberAuto
      @WeberAuto  3 роки тому

      Glad you liked it! Thank you for watching

  • @compu85
    @compu85 3 роки тому +20

    According to the documentation I found, and looking in the parts catalog, the oil for the Model S large rear drive unit is "AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSION FLUID DEXRON VI - SYNTHETIC 212B (1031106- 00-A) - 3" The model S front drive unit is different, "LUBRICANT, MOBIL SHC 629 (1119780-00-A) - 1 LITRE - 2".
    So it really is just Dex6!

    • @WeberAuto
      @WeberAuto  3 роки тому +13

      You are absolutely correct, I was wrong about that. Thank you!

    • @gabeh7373
      @gabeh7373 3 роки тому +1

      Do you by chance know if it's Dexron 6 for the Model 3 Performance F&R motors?

    • @blogengeezer4507
      @blogengeezer4507 3 роки тому

      -Same used in 4x4 Transfer case GMs?

    • @WeberAuto
      @WeberAuto  3 роки тому +2

      @@gabeh7373 It is not

    • @WeberAuto
      @WeberAuto  3 роки тому +1

      @@blogengeezer4507 Yes

  • @Maltanx
    @Maltanx 3 роки тому +33

    I've been waiting for this video for a while, all the others just show the transmission but only you have the knowledge to teach us how it really works and show us all the little details like those bearings and the cooling system. Thank you Professor!

    • @WeberAuto
      @WeberAuto  3 роки тому +3

      Glad you liked it! Thank you

  • @carstenmller1105
    @carstenmller1105 2 роки тому +1

    This is the best walkthrough of a Tesla motor and gear Ever. I’m impressed of the cooling system. Great work. I’m looking forward to see your next walkthrough.

  • @aturogs1954
    @aturogs1954 2 роки тому +5

    Very much like a comprehensive crash course. Very clear explanations that I learned so much in just under an hour watching. Thanks.

  • @robinmyman
    @robinmyman 3 роки тому +3

    You have obviously put in a lot of work putting this very clear and thorough presentation together.
    I’m an Accountant and only a 50 year DIY understanding of petrol engines.
    Well done and thank you.
    Swansea, UK.

    • @WeberAuto
      @WeberAuto  3 роки тому +1

      Thank you very much!

  • @amundsen575
    @amundsen575 3 роки тому +5

    Wow , excellent break down and analysis, SKF is a world leader in bearing technology, and the engineering and sophisticated machining required in this 500Hp power train is quit impressive to say the least. Fantastic explanation.

  • @carlubambi5541
    @carlubambi5541 2 роки тому +4

    I'm a master electrician, I have seen many ac motors and DC motors with massive bearings, they are hooked up to drives because the ammout of torque the motors can generate on start up is insane, equipment can be destroyed if they are started across the line. Electric motors can be smaller but have massive amount of torque and power for their size

  • @stelthirdeyeproductions5819
    @stelthirdeyeproductions5819 2 роки тому +20

    Amazing! So much high tech in such a 'simple' design, driving components to extreme conditions. Such a 'well' balanced system. Looking forward to watch the power electronics video tonight.
    Brilliant explanation (as usual). A 'perfect in every way' lecture! Respect!

    • @williamcampbell9859
      @williamcampbell9859 11 місяців тому +1

      inverted commas are not used for emphasis in english. Stop using them in that manner.

  • @agentbertram4769
    @agentbertram4769 3 роки тому +19

    Superb video John. I haven't enjoyed a technical video so much for a long time.
    Your depth of engineering knowledge is impressive and your ability to get the message over in an understandable way is simply brilliant. Well done sir!

  • @randallhash9283
    @randallhash9283 3 роки тому +15

    I can appreciate all the design and engineering that went into this EV system...This is such a wonderful instructional video...I own a 2020 Model S and this is such a delight to understand the workings of the systems...Also, it is enlightening to see all the positive comments...Keep up the good work..

  • @meabob
    @meabob 3 роки тому

    I been in the auto repair business for 40 years. Since there's no Tesla service info publicly available (as of last week in Alldata and ProDemand), I'll likely never get a chance to repair a Tesla because I plan on retiring in a couple years. We couldn't even get brake pads and rotors for a Model S that came in last week with a brake squeal. The brake system looks very much like any other disc brake system but no parts stores near us carried parts nor could they get them. The closest Tesla dealer is over 2 hours away. I wanted to drop the under shield to get a look at the motor/transaxle setup but my manager said not to just in case something went wrong. But I'll keep looking because I just want to see how they work. So far this video has been the most informative on their drivetrain setup. Thank you.
    Side note: To those saying electric cars are going to kill the auto service business: This car was a 2016 Model S with 38k miles and it already had worn brakes and the tires were getting close to the wear bars. The suspension system looked very much like the suspensions on our beloved fossil fuel vehicles. Assuming aftermarket parts do become available or a dealer is near you, I don't think you'll have to worry about losing work except for oil changes and engine air filters.

    • @WeberAuto
      @WeberAuto  3 роки тому

      Great comments, I agree. Thanks for watching

  • @Jamestfarrell
    @Jamestfarrell 3 роки тому +1

    You remind me of the two top-notch auto shop instructors I had the pleasure of experiencing-in 1963 and 1964, San Leandro, California, Mr. Blanchard and Mr. Redeker at Pacific High.

  • @JagiChan
    @JagiChan 3 роки тому +21

    Wow, that is some serious engineering; and you did a fantastic job in explaining the whole drive train and the various components. Appreciate the amount of time and effort you dedicated to making such a great video.

  • @st3althyone
    @st3althyone 3 роки тому +8

    Amazing, just amazing that you’re able to follow all that tubing, ducting and break it down for the layman to understand. These Tesla engineers truly are squeezing the most HP/Torque they can out of these things and they’re still not done. Thank you for taking the time to do all these work to entertain us with your wonderful content.

    • @WeberAuto
      @WeberAuto  3 роки тому +1

      Glad you enjoyed it! Thanks for watching

    • @wyliebob6105
      @wyliebob6105 3 роки тому

      These new electric autos are quite different from the combustion that I cut my teeth on 60+ years ago naturally but bearings, cooling & lubing haven't changed except for higher temps. Amazing video.

  • @credenceobliquy9604
    @credenceobliquy9604 2 роки тому +1

    Thank you so much Professor. This is an excellent exposition of the engineering. I've been intrigued by these cars - thank you - fascinating. Now I want to know more about the IGBTs. You are so clear and interesting.

  • @thewitchertales
    @thewitchertales 2 роки тому +2

    35:00 it passes threw the stator housing and middle of stator not only to cool but it can run the induction rotor without the car moving to build up heat so the heated coolant and warm up the battery if its cold. pretty genious.

  • @donaldfischer
    @donaldfischer 3 роки тому +6

    I'm a few days away from getting my long awaited Mach-E. This and John's video on the Bolt were very vey informative. In fact the Bolt video pushed me into buying the Mach-E. I hope he does a teardown of the Mach-E someday. Keep 'em coming John.

    • @WeberAuto
      @WeberAuto  3 роки тому +2

      I hope to get one here at our school someday. Thanks for watching

  • @telquad1953
    @telquad1953 3 роки тому +6

    As always, the detailed explanations and the physical device demonstrations. I always feel that my brain has been taken to a good place with your videos, Professor. Thanks so much.

    • @WeberAuto
      @WeberAuto  3 роки тому

      Thank you, you are most welcome

  • @Nate_Vee
    @Nate_Vee 2 роки тому

    You are a great instructor with clearer descriptions and high-definition explanations. You make me want to become a mechanic. Thank you

  • @iandamon4968
    @iandamon4968 3 роки тому +3

    Love the thoroughness of the explanation. Also love the Mr Peabody reference to the Wayback Machine...

  • @successfulengineer
    @successfulengineer 3 роки тому +8

    The hits just keep coming, another fantastic video. Pretty much the only channel on YT where I start a video and enjoy every minute right till the end.

  • @jannelandia
    @jannelandia 2 роки тому +1

    Thank you for these nice videos! One mention from Finland, coolant is also used to spread the heat. Probably in this case from the rotor to the oil to ensure lubrication in freezing conditions.
    And of course for cooling :)

  • @ngeltz
    @ngeltz 2 роки тому

    I watched your presentation earlier this year after you posted this video. I just watched it a second time, because there's a good deal of interesting information to consume and I was unable to consume it all during my first viewing. Excellent presentation and thank you so much.

  • @kwizikle65
    @kwizikle65 3 роки тому +5

    Wow, I was hooked. Thanks so much for explaining - I cannot believe the speeds of those bearings... thats getting close to turbine speeds... wow! Really well presented. thanks.

  • @32bits-of-a-bus59
    @32bits-of-a-bus59 3 роки тому +8

    Also, I'd like to thank you for the wonderful content you are creating. I've learned so much about cars from your videos! Keep making new episodes, please.

    • @WeberAuto
      @WeberAuto  3 роки тому

      Thanks, many more to come!

  • @jamesn3513
    @jamesn3513 2 роки тому +1

    I’m a Mechanical Engineer by education and training, and am blown away by the simplicity of the drive train. I daily drive a 90D Model S which I absolutely love to drive. I believe that a break through in rechargeable battery technology “is all that is needed” to make the vast majority of ICE obsolete. But that is a big big step.

    • @WeberAuto
      @WeberAuto  2 роки тому

      Thanks for watching

    • @jamesn3513
      @jamesn3513 2 роки тому

      @@WeberAuto My pleasure! Thank you for making such a great video.

  • @home-inspections
    @home-inspections 2 роки тому +1

    Nicely done professor Kelly. Your comprehensive teachings complement the superb design of this drive unit precisely. Thank you, I have subscribed with enthusiasm.

  • @G8YTZ
    @G8YTZ 3 роки тому +8

    Excellent video. I think those “buttons” on the IGBT heat sinks are designed to avoid air bubbles forming on the heat sink, air bubbles would form an insulating layer between the heat sink and coolant. A similar technique is (was) used in cooling high power vacuum tubes and klystrons in broadcast transmitters.

    • @WeberAuto
      @WeberAuto  3 роки тому +3

      Very interesting! Thanks for the information

    • @trumpetmaris
      @trumpetmaris 3 роки тому +2

      The buttons create a non-laminar flow, which in addition to the increased surface area, causes the fluid to 'linger' longer and pick up more heat to be transferred out.

    • @G8YTZ
      @G8YTZ 3 роки тому +1

      @@trumpetmaris Yes, but I think also to prevent air bubbles forming, though less of an issue here, with vapour-phase cooling is a big issue that has to be avoided.

    • @WeberAuto
      @WeberAuto  3 роки тому

      @@trumpetmaris Awesome information, thank you!

    • @uploadJ
      @uploadJ 7 місяців тому

      @@G8YTZ re: "Yes, but I think also to prevent air bubbles forming"
      Welp, the laminar flow thing vs turbulent flow is a real thing. Turbulent flow works better to transfer heat energy, whether the working 'fluid' is air or water or something else ...

  • @jonsnell4751
    @jonsnell4751 3 роки тому +17

    You are a very clever man Prof. Thank you for sharing your knowledge, I find it very interesting. Keep safe and best regards from the UK.

  • @moose1485
    @moose1485 5 місяців тому

    Thanks for the great video!! I purchased my P90DL a month ago and this is the only video I could find that gives me a full breakdown.

  • @rogerdc7279
    @rogerdc7279 Рік тому

    Thank you very much Professor, for your knowlejable and clear explanations of this very interesting subject.
    The main thing that I got from your explanations is the very high end engineering and quality of the materials of the Tesla motors.

  • @benoitpaccaud1590
    @benoitpaccaud1590 Рік тому +5

    Amazing performance and explanation ! How can you be so clear and specific! I am also teacher in a mechanic college in France and take the curve of EV with my student is not obvious, so your explanations are welcome and I hope they could teach me to be more accurate in my explanation

  • @Joj_knows_jack
    @Joj_knows_jack 3 роки тому +13

    Incredible work, professor! Making curiosity visible, watch and learn from a master. Production quality and clarity helps immensely, well done team!

  • @coolhab1
    @coolhab1 2 роки тому

    Amazing job explaining the mechanical details behind such an intriguing product. Thank you, Sir!

  • @33ad1
    @33ad1 Рік тому +1

    Awesome video.
    I was impressed by the special high speed HKS bearing.

  • @redsquirrelftw
    @redsquirrelftw 3 роки тому +3

    Wow that was an awesome video. Probably the most detailed teardown of a Tesla motor I've found so far. Cool to see that they use an induction motor with no magnets, I always figured it was a BLDC.

  • @elcheapo5302
    @elcheapo5302 3 роки тому +5

    Very interesting, Professor. Thank you for sharing. I had no idea the cooling system was so complicated. Looking forward to the next three parts!

    • @WeberAuto
      @WeberAuto  3 роки тому

      I was also surprised. Thanks

  • @briancnc
    @briancnc 5 місяців тому

    Always amazed how such small motors can produce so much output power. Work of art!

  • @mredgar325
    @mredgar325 8 місяців тому +2

    Thank you for sharing all this info that must have taken you many hours to compile. You and others like you make UA-cam a priceless source of information.

  • @csilver9625
    @csilver9625 2 роки тому +10

    Stoked to see the quality content Weber State is putting out regarding EVs. It seems as if you are leading the charge in quality training in the nation!
    Every time I watch these videos, it makes me want to run up to campus and check it out in person. I’m just afraid I would quit my job and enroll back in school again (which may actually be a good great thing)

  • @jaimeizreal8810
    @jaimeizreal8810 3 роки тому +4

    I have silicon nitride bearings in my hubs for my road bike and wow, what a difference with how they feel and roll. Pretty much night and day.

    • @WeberAuto
      @WeberAuto  3 роки тому +2

      Great information! Thanks for watching

  • @2wagondragon
    @2wagondragon 3 роки тому +2

    Fantastic video. So well explained. I have to say though, that when you talked about a reluctor ring, I immediately thought of the turbo encabulator.

    • @WeberAuto
      @WeberAuto  3 роки тому +2

      LOL! Thanks for watching

  • @Ac-ly8tx
    @Ac-ly8tx 2 роки тому +1

    Fantastic video! I have no auto engineering background but you made this make sense wow!!!

  • @MrDjconquest
    @MrDjconquest 3 роки тому +4

    This was a very well put together video, thanks WeberAuto. Your knowledge base is extremely appreciated!!

    • @WeberAuto
      @WeberAuto  3 роки тому +1

      Glad it was helpful!

  • @265chemic
    @265chemic 3 роки тому +6

    Reminds me of going to technical college for automotive, I had great teachers. Thanks Weber Auto!!!

  • @zarzum
    @zarzum 6 місяців тому +2

    I'm an electrical/software engineer, but this is a great insight into Tesla core component design. The amount of thought that went into energy management of these cars is staggering. I just wish they made an attempt to make their cars without unnecessary 'wow effect' gizmos and more easily serviceable. I will be watching more videos in these series.

    • @littlereptilian7580
      @littlereptilian7580 5 місяців тому

      What has you comment to do that you are a electrical/software engineer?

    • @Kloppin4H0rses
      @Kloppin4H0rses 5 місяців тому

      ​@@littlereptilian7580
      Stop being jealous of other people's success kiddo

  • @hubbcapp2109
    @hubbcapp2109 6 місяців тому

    That was absolutely amazing and helpful, especially being that I have the 2016 P90DL. I would like to say I really appreciate your candor as well as the way you simplify/dummy it down for us backyard/gearhead mechanic types.
    You should do a few more similar videos on basic D.I.Y. maintenance for the model S Tesla.
    That being said thank you Sir, you are awesome.

  • @donaldmiranda6224
    @donaldmiranda6224 2 роки тому +3

    I am not a mechanic just curiosity kicked in :) ... the way he explains was great..your students are lucky to have you as their mentor...sharing knowledge for free...keep it up professor! ..take care always and Godbless....made me a subscriber now!

    • @WeberAuto
      @WeberAuto  2 роки тому

      So nice of you. Thanks for watching

  • @Ganhedd
    @Ganhedd 3 роки тому +2

    Si3N4 is a kind of ceramic, special measures to increase the catalog limiting speed are, ceramic balls, plastic cage (most probably PA46+GF), oil lubrication (most probably ISO VG 68, as maschine tool app.), improved accuracy, increased clearance(bearing play)

    • @WeberAuto
      @WeberAuto  3 роки тому

      Great information, thank you

  • @ricardofelippe834
    @ricardofelippe834 2 роки тому

    Congratulations for the explanation, but this car looks like a spaceship. I can imagine the knowledge of the guys, that will work on these cars. Thank you so much.

  • @RobiBue
    @RobiBue 3 роки тому +3

    18:20 The balancing divots on the rotor are awesome! Every single rotor has to be precisely calibrated to prevent the motor from _blowing up_ through vibration!

    • @WeberAuto
      @WeberAuto  3 роки тому

      Thanks for watching

    • @StevePlank
      @StevePlank 2 роки тому +1

      Much neater than some of the larger / slower motors I've seen, where the balancing was done with an angle grinder! I have a suspicion that Tesla would have automated this process, for precise, repeatable accuracy.

  • @danielsawinski7067
    @danielsawinski7067 Рік тому +3

    Thank you. This is an interesting and professional webinar. Keep going, and good luck.

  • @djosbun
    @djosbun 3 роки тому +2

    One of the members of the diag.net recommended this channel and I am very thankful that they did! I've watched three of your videos and am now a subscriber! Thank you for making these superb videos!

  • @robertbennett9949
    @robertbennett9949 Рік тому +1

    Thank you. This is by far the best video I have seen on the subject(s). The graphics are just amazing. Truly professional.

  • @Gammaduster
    @Gammaduster 3 роки тому +3

    Thank you Pr. Kelly, looking forward to the high power electronics teardown

    • @WeberAuto
      @WeberAuto  3 роки тому +3

      Coming soon! Thank you

  • @no_more_free_nicks
    @no_more_free_nicks 3 роки тому +20

    Excellent, finally something about engineering and not "Tesla stock! Tesla stock! Tesla stock! Tesla stock!"

    • @WeberAuto
      @WeberAuto  3 роки тому +4

      LOL, thank you

    • @MARILYNANDERSON88
      @MARILYNANDERSON88 3 роки тому

      NoLOL. The business types are such hype.We need substance!

    • @rkan2
      @rkan2 3 роки тому

      Recommended for other engineering videos about Tesla: IngineerX & Damien Maguire (who covers basically all so far affordable Tesla powertrain components and makes them run without a Tesla)

    • @blogengeezer4507
      @blogengeezer4507 3 роки тому +1

      -As Nancy Pelosi left a Congressional meeting, after Biden election, subsequent Laws ending fossil fuels, she immediately bought Tesla Stock.
      It did a Bitcoin and rose shortly thereafter..
      Martha Stewart needs a profuse apology... and financial compensation ;/

  • @tonymolinos8496
    @tonymolinos8496 3 роки тому +1

    Thank you for the highly technical tutor of theTesla motor mechanical and
    clear explanations of the gears
    and electrical functions in the
    motor.

  • @paulburtea5605
    @paulburtea5605 2 роки тому

    You have the gift to explain and to simplify

  • @docohm50
    @docohm50 3 роки тому +4

    I worked on military aircraft from 82' to 2020. As soon as I saw that gear reduction unit it reminded me of mil spec parts.
    Impressive. Great video!

    • @daszieher
      @daszieher 3 роки тому +1

      It does have more of a turbine reduction unit of a helicopter than an "automotive gear box".

    • @WeberAuto
      @WeberAuto  3 роки тому

      Thanks for watching

  • @edgarkuylen276
    @edgarkuylen276 3 роки тому +5

    Amazing! Thank you for bringing this major bit of information to us gas guzzler gate watchers. Your efforts are deeply appreciated.

  • @joedmac78
    @joedmac78 3 роки тому +2

    That is really cool. It's nice to see something overbuilt and well thought out

  • @waltermeerschaert
    @waltermeerschaert Рік тому

    This is the best description of the motor I have seen on YT. I did watch at 1.25x.

  • @mrpangy4174
    @mrpangy4174 3 роки тому +3

    Great job. I would love to see complete comparisons to the competition.

    • @WeberAuto
      @WeberAuto  3 роки тому

      Great suggestion! Thanks for watching

  • @jublywubly
    @jublywubly 3 роки тому +6

    This video is fantastic. I've learned a mountain from you. Thank you for making such a brilliant and interesting video!

    • @WeberAuto
      @WeberAuto  3 роки тому +1

      Glad you enjoyed it!