Want to find out more about Idrimi and the scanning techniques being used to spread his blessing around the world? Jamie Fraser has written a blog you might just be interested in: blog.britishmuseum.org/idrimi-the-3500-year-old-refugee/
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Looked up the official translation. Apparently they reappear in the story later on: "My brothers heard of this [military victory] and came to me. My brothers and I swore mutual alliance; I placed my brothers under my protection." It says some scholars think Idrimi was exaggerating his own successes and how big of a place he was king of, given he also says elsewhere, "I made my regime like the regime of kings. I made my brothers like royal brothers, my sons like their sons and my relatives their relatives. The inhabitants who were in my land I made to dwell securely, and even those who did not have a dwelling I settled." This may imply those other 'Kings' were equally important in the victories and Idrimi simply out lived them all so he could build statues and take credit for it. It may have been a smaller, more equal society than is implied; all 7 brothers collaborating and contributing, more like 7 city counselors than 7 independent Kings, as we use the term King today denotes more unilateral power.
Congrats Idrimi, no idea what you were like when you lived, probably a thorough shit by today's standards, but you achieved your dream of being remembered far longer into the future than anyone you knew and far longer than even greater men than yourself.
@@Hobbyrepubliken He left his family, gathered a group of brigands and invaded someone else's kingdom. Not the best origin story for an enlightened ruler.
Thanks for doing this. It's a real treat to be able to see these artifacts and statues that speak so much about our past. and thanks too, because I'm in Canada and I can see all these amazing things. This is great. I am going to look at Jamie Fraser's Blog now. This is the internet at its best.
Great story and great presentation. I'm amazed at Idrimi's subsequent success. Especially taking on cities within the Assyrian empire. You would have thought the Assyrians could easily crush a cocky, nascent city state if they made it a priority. He must have been one hell of a tough dude - or a very shrewd negotiator - or both!
Wow, this was so fascinating. I love when they find statues or stones with someone's story on it and they're speaking to you from thousands of years in the past. So many people and histories that have gone before us, it makes me feel small in that sense.
Footnotes sometimes make the best histories and describe the most interesting characters. I remember as a schoolboy in the US reading Richard Burton's scandalous footnotes. Tell Idrimi it was a pleasure meeting him.
The statue shows a vintage concept of sharing in ways we do every day like school yearbook signatures. " You a beast Nathan, F- anyone who tries to say anything different -Tim, High school student 2011" They also can't all right, they thank the person who did the inscriptions. This is literally elementary, my dear Watson. This statue is a period dated facebook status with comments. And they even thank the facebook guy filtering their feed.
Well, i was in Hatay Arcelogy museum, and saw a video about idrimi life story, and it was written that status taken by British Museium, thats the reasion why i watch this video. By the way idrimi's status taken from Hatay ( city in Turkey)
@@Anomaly-uz9pr this might be a proof that humans are one, a connection that exists deep within us. one subconscious that governs our interpretation of reality, that subconscious that contains all the filters that we all share, the filters that we use to interpret the world that is. And through that same subconscious I was able to interpret your comment, and feel on a deeper level your state of mind, which I was sharing and experiencing at the same time!
Fine video in the most positive tradition of British schloarship, bravo! The whole Curator's Corner series is excellent: history with passion. To be added is the fact that the artefact at hand is written in Akkadian, the first known Semitic language.
Islamic civilisations were destroying their own cultural heritage for "idolatry" long before the British got there. You can go on all you like about how these objects were "stolen" but the fact of the matter is the BM can look after them far better than their own countries so it's probably for the best that they were stolen. Honestly, look what Isis did to Palmyra, Nimrud, the Minaret of Anah, and Dair Mar Elia. What the Taliban did to the Bamiyan Buddhas, what the Saudis did to the Ajyad Fortress, What Egyptian rioters did to the Cairo Museum and Islamic Art Centre in 2011. Not to mention the countless Asian and African artifacts stolen, sold off, destroyed or kept in the collections of Tyrants and Oligarchs, not open to public viewing or to enhance our cultural legacy. Better off we have it, I don't trust these "rightful owners" one iota.
Right, but the Taliban happened after the invasion of the soviet union, was it not? And ISIS was created after a power vacuum left by the americans, was it not? And yes, there were some riots in egypt, but the people explicitly protected the Egyptian museum, which still stands, does it not? The british museum is literally filled with treasure looted from colonized countries, and yet you still claim moral superiority. It's not really 'cool' to point out mistakes if you don't take responsibility. You have destroyed the social fabric of the arab world, which was once part of the Ottoman empire, known for its tolerance for other religions and peoples. You selectively shop in history. It doesn't make you look smart or well informed.
The curse reads "He who removes this my statue, , may the sky verfluchen, may his seed be closed in the underworld, may the Gods of sky and earth divide his kingdom and his country! He who always changes it, in any way whatever, may Teshub, the lord of the sky and the earth and the great gods in his land, destroy his name and his descendants! "
Down the side of his head implies he is hearing it, correct, not speaking it. Indeed, they involve blessings upon him. Of course, the text is still coming from him either way.
"Hey, maybe if we unspool that there lamb's innards - perhaps God wrote the answers on its liver?! It might be written really small, or some kind of code, so we will have to look really good..."
Look it's still happening now they will never learn our land has only ever had something like happen once in our history but yet you are promoting this culture and statue as a good thing
In one of my first long visits to the Museum, I was so tired that I stayed resting sitted on the bench in fronnt of Idrimi for more than 30min. From then on, he is a kind of old friend.
Aleppo was one of the most beautiful cities in the Middle East until the recent civil war and had many peaceful centuries, but sadly history repeats itself if you wait long enough.
I love the story of the sculpture, but I have no sympathy for the man who was the refugee. The story is told from his point of view and will be very different to the stories of those around him. I can imagine what that would be like. “ we had this thug who was so bad that we drove him out of town. I hear he made so many enemies wherever he went that he was forced to go from city to city. He nurtured anger within him and he vowed revenge. When he reached the end of civilisation he came across a band of vagabonds. For 7 years he built up an army of thugs, and then came back and killed so many people he captured the city. Not content with that he attacked more cities and stole so much gold he could afford to build a temple and made a statue of himself as if a god. Even on the statue he cursed us. I hope he ends up imprisoned in a far off damp and cold city where the citizens stare at him as no more than an ugly curiosity from the past.” So he was small-time enough that history does not revere him as a great ruler, but he is big-time enough to have killed lots of people from lots of cities. I am not impressed by him, no matter what his truth really was. But I am glad to have discovered his ego and unpleasant disposition.
artistjoh point is. He became king. You never did anything with your life. Don’t hate those who didn’t accept the fate that others gave him. The gods blessed his bid for power and so it was. He is remembered thousands of years after. You will not. The gods have spoken and so it shall be. -the end.
alus nova If you are impressed by someone just because they are a king then you are welcome to that view of life. You will have to forgive me for being more impressed by other kings like Nebuchadnezzar II, or Rameses II. However, I am more impressed by your ability to know so much about my life so that you know that I have never done anything. Maybe you are right. The only things I have ever done is create sculptures and paintings in various city parks and public buildings around the world, and have five wonderful sons, a smile on my woman’s face, and a great deal of satisfaction that I did not have to kill anyone to do any of it. But you are right, someone who achieves things by killing other people is so much more valuable than anything in my life, and being remembered is so much more important than anything else. Just ask Mr. Hitler, and Mr. Stalin. I am sure they won’t be forgotten either.
"from head to foot" yep--he's definitely a local... Anyway, he looks like someone violently shoved a broom up his bum... @ 4:00 The Arabs did this until the advent of Islam: doves would be released before the man being augured; if they flew to his right, it was a good omen. if to the left, it was bad. They would also read from entrails, and even from arrow-shafts. It's interesting, because it sheds light on the continuity of Semitic culture from the Bronze age up to late Antiquity: a bridge that connects those two.
Want to find out more about Idrimi and the scanning techniques being used to spread his blessing around the world? Jamie Fraser has written a blog you might just be interested in: blog.britishmuseum.org/idrimi-the-3500-year-old-refugee/
The British Museum
Please rethink your presentation & add respect
You should’ve said “Habiru” instead of “outcasts”. Idrimi chilled with the Habiru (and the Shasu of YHW, imo) for 7 years in Canaan.
Are you any relation to the real James Fraser of Scotland?
Thank you!
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Wait why do we have to remember the six older brothers
I thought they were gonna come back into the story sometime
lol
yeah!!
Looked up the official translation. Apparently they reappear in the story later on: "My brothers heard of this [military victory] and came to me. My brothers and I swore mutual alliance; I placed my brothers under my protection."
It says some scholars think Idrimi was exaggerating his own successes and how big of a place he was king of, given he also says elsewhere, "I made my regime like the regime of kings. I made my brothers like royal brothers, my sons like their sons and my relatives their relatives. The inhabitants who were in my land I made to dwell securely, and even those who did not have a dwelling I settled."
This may imply those other 'Kings' were equally important in the victories and Idrimi simply out lived them all so he could build statues and take credit for it. It may have been a smaller, more equal society than is implied; all 7 brothers collaborating and contributing, more like 7 city counselors than 7 independent Kings, as we use the term King today denotes more unilateral power.
sabriele oh yeah. Why did we need to know that. I wonder if they later edited it out without realizing that they left us hanging.
Seven brothers. It must be the seven years he had to wait.
That’s the face I make when I realise I left the cooker on at home
Congrats Idrimi, no idea what you were like when you lived, probably a thorough shit by today's standards, but you achieved your dream of being remembered far longer into the future than anyone you knew and far longer than even greater men than yourself.
Great story, but why do I feel like he may have been a thoroughly unpleasant character?
Because he was a king
@@Hobbyrepubliken He left his family, gathered a group of brigands and invaded someone else's kingdom. Not the best origin story for an enlightened ruler.
He was a Near Eastern King, that's par the course.
@@CanalTremocos - Sounds like the story of North America
nosuchthingasshould - Yeah, I think you’re right - Idrimi looks like a douche...
Thanks for the awesome story! History owns!
I would love to visit the British Museum.
In the ancient world - Homer speaks on this - being remembered was what was considered a form of life after death.
Beautiful piece, one just has to admire and love the passion that Fraser is bringing to its story! Great Job!
thanks for the blessing idrimi
Thanks for doing this. It's a real treat to be able to see these artifacts and statues that speak so much about our past. and thanks too, because I'm in Canada and I can see all these amazing things. This is great. I am going to look at Jamie Fraser's Blog now. This is the internet at its best.
*3,500 years after everything*
*Phone notification noises*
Idrimi, you have received a blessing!
Great story and great presentation. I'm amazed at Idrimi's subsequent success. Especially taking on cities within the Assyrian empire. You would have thought the Assyrians could easily crush a cocky, nascent city state if they made it a priority. He must have been one hell of a tough dude - or a very shrewd negotiator - or both!
One of the best videos of the "curator" series, and that's saying something.
Jamie Fraser? the first that came to my mind was Outlander :D
Nina Sukarsono yes he is an imposter
Ikrr i died
That’s an amazing story; I was transfixed!
Anyone who can spread the word from someone who lived more than 3,000 years ago is truly doing good work.
Look on the bottom of his shirt, 'Matt Groening' is clearly visible.
Absolutely love these segments! Thank you so much for posting.
yessssssssssssss
A 3,500 year old refugee? but his documents clearly state he is 14
Wow, this was so fascinating. I love when they find statues or stones with someone's story on it and they're speaking to you from thousands of years in the past. So many people and histories that have gone before us, it makes me feel small in that sense.
Fascinating!
Footnotes sometimes make the best histories and describe the most interesting characters. I remember as a schoolboy in the US reading Richard Burton's scandalous footnotes. Tell Idrimi it was a pleasure meeting him.
Excellent history! But the best part about the video is Jamie's enthusiasm.
I love the expression on this character. Except for where is looks like there are tears running down his eyes. Interesting as always from the BM
The year is 2020, Idrimi came back to life after all the world read his life history, his rule is just, the world is a better place
Anuar Azar 2017 now, I don't think we are going in the right direction to be a better place
Yaima Martinez hence his return
Anuar Azar i dream of Idrimi
@@yaimamartinez9576 Funny you were saying that, seeing how 2018 is turning out
@@lukpisimoh I think I can predict the future after all... 😲
These videos are brilliant. Please keep them coming!
The statue shows a vintage concept of sharing in ways we do every day like school yearbook signatures.
" You a beast Nathan, F- anyone who tries to say anything different -Tim, High school student 2011"
They also can't all right, they thank the person who did the inscriptions.
This is literally elementary, my dear Watson.
This statue is a period dated facebook status with comments. And they even thank the facebook guy filtering their feed.
I love the British Museum. I could camp out there! I remember this guy in the case but had no idea he had such a fascinating story.
Interesting & great fun.
Fantastic story! this curator is excellent :)
The work your team is doing is awesome.
That is actually very cool
And those six older brothers we were to remember? ?????
"wanna know how i got these scars?"
Well, i was in Hatay Arcelogy museum, and saw a video about idrimi life story, and it was written that status taken by British Museium, thats the reasion why i watch this video. By the way idrimi's status taken from Hatay ( city in Turkey)
Idrimi seems to have been more of a badass conqueror than a refugee. Amazing video
wow, this was very interesting
We’re all blessing Idrimi then.
Thank you, Idrimi.
I work with a refugee from Syria, and found this story completely compelling.
Thank you~☆
The blessing is today's version of a chain post. Idrimi over here knowing how the work the system 3500 years later
this dudes magic actually worked... impressive
Kinda sounds like the biblical story of Joseph...
My detergents clean my biofilms just fine.
Idrimi was a cunning bastard, he should've been a lawmaker instead of a warlord.
That is amazing! O wait every day to come home and watch one video from this channel! It is wonderful
Set out a 3D print of the statue on the floor near the glass case, so children and adults can interact with it and feel the carving, ya Jabronies.
am I the only one who thinks this would be a great movie?
A refugee from Aleppo I am, and this was awe inspiring...
Interesting since you posted this comment on the internet you as well will be remembered for as long as the internet exists in some form or another.
@@Anomaly-uz9pr i can feel that you're high, cuz i'm high too.
let the internet remember that
@@markkeeper7771 I am indeed fellow internet stranger I wish you well
@@Anomaly-uz9pr this might be a proof that humans are one, a connection that exists deep within us.
one subconscious that governs our interpretation of reality, that subconscious that contains all the filters that we all share, the filters that we use to interpret the world that is.
And through that same subconscious I was able to interpret your comment, and feel on a deeper level your state of mind, which I was sharing and experiencing at the same time!
God, i fucking love history!
Wow! Ancient Syria is awesome just like the Pre-islamic Arabia and other cultures of the Ancient Levant.
Enjoyable
Knowledge is priceless.
Fine video in the most positive tradition of British schloarship, bravo! The whole Curator's Corner series is excellent: history with passion. To be added is the fact that the artefact at hand is written in Akkadian, the first known Semitic language.
Great vid
How did it end up at the british museum then?
theft by british imperialist, as usual
Well if it was still in Syria ISIS might have destroyed it. So be grateful the Levant's greatest treasures aren't there.
If the british imperialist didn't create an artificial country where the people hated each other, isis wouldn't be there in the first place.
Islamic civilisations were destroying their own cultural heritage for "idolatry" long before the British got there. You can go on all you like about how these objects were "stolen" but the fact of the matter is the BM can look after them far better than their own countries so it's probably for the best that they were stolen.
Honestly, look what Isis did to Palmyra, Nimrud, the Minaret of Anah, and Dair Mar Elia. What the Taliban did to the Bamiyan Buddhas, what the Saudis did to the Ajyad Fortress, What Egyptian rioters did to the Cairo Museum and Islamic Art Centre in 2011. Not to mention the countless Asian and African artifacts stolen, sold off, destroyed or kept in the collections of Tyrants and Oligarchs, not open to public viewing or to enhance our cultural legacy. Better off we have it, I don't trust these "rightful owners" one iota.
Right, but the Taliban happened after the invasion of the soviet union, was it not? And ISIS was created after a power vacuum left by the americans, was it not? And yes, there were some riots in egypt, but the people explicitly protected the Egyptian museum, which still stands, does it not?
The british museum is literally filled with treasure looted from colonized countries, and yet you still claim moral superiority.
It's not really 'cool' to point out mistakes if you don't take responsibility. You have destroyed the social fabric of the arab world, which was once part of the Ottoman empire, known for its tolerance for other religions and peoples. You selectively shop in history. It doesn't make you look smart or well informed.
meanwhile in heaven
jesus: well well well, you got so many blessing lately, idrimi
idrimi: are you jealous bro?
I think you have avoided the curse. And gained the blessing.
The swag on this curator is next level 😍
The curse reads
"He who removes this my statue, , may the sky
verfluchen, may his seed be closed in the underworld, may the Gods of sky and
earth divide his kingdom and his country! He who always changes it, in any way
whatever, may Teshub, the lord of the sky and the earth and the great gods in
his land, destroy his name and his descendants! "
Down the side of his head implies he is hearing it, correct, not speaking it. Indeed, they involve blessings upon him. Of course, the text is still coming from him either way.
Seven brothers, seven years, seven cities, I'm thinking the story was tweaked quite a bit to achieve improved symbolism.
They can 3D print it too.
The round hourglass temporally dream because supply increasingly hop without a snotty gondola. ten, momentous radiator
"Hey, maybe if we unspool that there lamb's innards - perhaps God wrote the answers on its liver?!
It might be written really small, or some kind of code, so we will have to look really good..."
Look it's still happening now they will never learn our land has only ever had something like happen once in our history but yet you are promoting this culture and statue as a good thing
In one of my first long visits to the Museum, I was so tired that I stayed resting sitted on the bench in fronnt of Idrimi for more than 30min. From then on, he is a kind of old friend.
exiled warlord turned into a bandit having divine vision. At least this one has a physical image of himself :)
Thank you.
Thank you from the year 2020, Idrimi
3500 years and they still cant sort thier shit out.
I think he might also like to be returned to his native Syria. Strikes me that a refugee might not like that his legacy has been made a spoil of war.
I guess nothing has really changed for people of Syria for past 3,500 years.
True.
Aleppo was one of the most beautiful cities in the Middle East until the recent civil war and had many peaceful centuries, but sadly history repeats itself if you wait long enough.
Wow, thats the smartest thing that you can come up with?
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so fascinating I love this!
I thought he went all the way to England as a refugee...... not as a statue....
Yeah yeah yeah but what about the six brothers? It’s keeping me awake at night.
I would love to have seen Dr. Finkel with you to do some on the spot translation.
I love the story of the sculpture, but I have no sympathy for the man who was the refugee. The story is told from his point of view and will be very different to the stories of those around him. I can imagine what that would be like.
“ we had this thug who was so bad that we drove him out of town. I hear he made so many enemies wherever he went that he was forced to go from city to city. He nurtured anger within him and he vowed revenge. When he reached the end of civilisation he came across a band of vagabonds. For 7 years he built up an army of thugs, and then came back and killed so many people he captured the city. Not content with that he attacked more cities and stole so much gold he could afford to build a temple and made a statue of himself as if a god. Even on the statue he cursed us. I hope he ends up imprisoned in a far off damp and cold city where the citizens stare at him as no more than an ugly curiosity from the past.”
So he was small-time enough that history does not revere him as a great ruler, but he is big-time enough to have killed lots of people from lots of cities. I am not impressed by him, no matter what his truth really was. But I am glad to have discovered his ego and unpleasant disposition.
artistjoh point is. He became king. You never did anything with your life. Don’t hate those who didn’t accept the fate that others gave him. The gods blessed his bid for power and so it was.
He is remembered thousands of years after. You will not. The gods have spoken and so it shall be.
-the end.
alus nova If you are impressed by someone just because they are a king then you are welcome to that view of life. You will have to forgive me for being more impressed by other kings like Nebuchadnezzar II, or Rameses II.
However, I am more impressed by your ability to know so much about my life so that you know that I have never done anything. Maybe you are right. The only things I have ever done is create sculptures and paintings in various city parks and public buildings around the world, and have five wonderful sons, a smile on my woman’s face, and a great deal of satisfaction that I did not have to kill anyone to do any of it. But you are right, someone who achieves things by killing other people is so much more valuable than anything in my life, and being remembered is so much more important than anything else. Just ask Mr. Hitler, and Mr. Stalin. I am sure they won’t be forgotten either.
"from head to foot"
yep--he's definitely a local...
Anyway, he looks like someone violently shoved a broom up his bum...
@ 4:00
The Arabs did this until the advent of Islam: doves would be released before the man being augured; if they flew to his right, it was a good omen. if to the left, it was bad.
They would also read from entrails, and even from arrow-shafts.
It's interesting, because it sheds light on the continuity of Semitic culture from the Bronze age up to late Antiquity: a bridge that connects those two.
Fine that he is now in england but first he must learn the language.!..
Idrimi is an archetypal badass. Great video.
Only just come across Curators Corner ,and all who live thair ,love love love it
Would like to know more about his clothes and the box.
And here it reads "I was awesome, don't forget me".
Thanks. Fascinating.
Anyone else think the Simpsons characters were styled after him?
I wonder if there's a complete translation of the inscriptions available somewhere
I love Curator’s Corner! I run across it by accident from time to time and it’s always educational and entertaining. Many Thanks!!
idrimi sounds almost like entertain me
What is the language of the inscription ?
An ancient object humanized in many creative ways. Bravo Mr. Fraser!
I wonder if he was an outcast for being a bisexual? Or maybe just a mo
inspiration for Moses story? just wondering!
Good segment but you never stated what script it was so my dumb ass sat here thinking it was sumerian cuneiform for a solid 6 minutes
Sounds like this might be an origin of the Joseph-and-his-brothers story.
A remarkably sophisticated piece of both artwork and history.
A refuge from Aleppo huh? The more things change...........
Peoples lives are forgotten with time, but the objects they create can live forever.
Doh It's Homer Simpson.