Attempting to rewire a concrete House
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- Опубліковано 29 сер 2024
- We have our work cut out for us on this concrete house rewire
Trying to find the best method to run cables
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This video is for entertainment purposes only and is in no way intended as a guide or 'how to'.
It's nice to see cat cable becoming more common place in UK builds now, I made that a priority on our new house renovation, I've managed to nearly fill a 24 port patch panel using RJ45 wallplates, and Ubiquiti AP's, POE cameras and their doorbell, cannot beat a hardwired connection that can do a full 10Gbps, simply bliss. 😎
Yup, PoE is the way to go for aux devices like cameras and APs, and who knows what speeds will be possible over cat6 in 10 years time?
when i bought my house about 5yrs ago, the first thing i done before i started to do it up as i wanted, i had the whole house wired with cat6 cabling, every room has at least two points, some have 4, cables for APs & CCTV were done at the same time. I think I've got about 30 cables all together.
i think its criminal that builders don't put at least one cable in each room on new build houses in this day and age
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Last time I did a concrete building, it was all done in miles of steel conduit
Lucky that the customer was prepared to drop the ceilings and create that little void space so you can work, and I presume the plumbers as well if they're going for a full refurb. Be a hell of a job otherwise. Spent some time on council rewires, had a weird house with the first floor being poured concrete onto steel mesh (like this one seems to be) and the loft structure was made from angle iron with quite wide spacings. Had to go get some scaffold boards to use as crawl boards to move around safely. Downstairs lighting ended up being trunking on the ceiling 🤮
just like we do it over here in Hungary ,except when there is no plasterboard ceiling , then you have to chase the horisontals too, and we usually put plastic conduit in all the chased areas. takes some time ut most houses are built like this.
12.5mm plasterboard & skim gives 30 minuate fire rating , normally cables in domestic above ceiling wont need protection against premature collaspe
Very true mate but I’d rather over do it when I can 👍
agreed, if the ceiling is falling down the fire brigade wont be walking through the building anyway.
Use the chaser for your back boxes. Perfect depth and takes no time at all 👍
"I tell you what is loose" 😆😂🤣 I had to press my space bar and take a minute to dry my eyes 😆
You should get this set for sockets it makes the job so much quicker. Armeg Tri-Cut EBS Back-Box & Wall Chasing Installation Kit 7 Pcs
Very tidy work looks super professional. I’m apprentice electrician do enjoy some of informative info on this channel.
Wow, finally Britain came to construction of the concrete housing. Meaning, no squeaking floors etc. Little by little you will upgrade from single glazing to a triple one :)
Easy life . Come to cornwall where the concrete is f hard because its made with Granite sand. And old houses are granite stone. Chasing a back box can take four times longer than up your way. No Thermalite blocks down ere.
One of my pals bought his first house as a project for cheap, it was precast or cast in place concrete and I seem to remember him saying the original steel conduits were cast into the walls and were now rotted. The walls were thinner than brick and had some sort of black flint type bits in the mix,he tried all manner of discs,blades and drills,all without any hammer type drilling/sds stuff for fear of cracking the walls.He actually over a year of his spare time chasing out his walls,being careful to not break through for switch and socket boxes and all remedial work had to be some certain type(expensive) of concrete too,apparently. The inevitable happened,one wall cracked into about 5 large pieces,still intact but cracked right through.. 20 years later when I mention it,because why wouldn't you? he shudders still,his wife takes on the expression of someone who saw and heard 'things' back then that will stay a secret forever😂
When I look at this kind of youtube video's, it wonders me how far the UK is behind in domestic electrical installation work, compared to here in Europe. And, by the way that is not a concrete house, the floors might be concrete, but the wall's are masonry otherwise your Metabo would not cut those grooves. All the best.
Just use the chaser to chase the socket out, 20 times faster, just fill in after.
I wish i would come and learn from you.
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Great job 👍. Just a thought , why not take main Live to the switch box and make that the JB, rather in ceiling. 👍
Bastard to get a dimmer into in the future., especially when your only using 20mm backboxes like nick uses
Brilliant work Boys …that rewire should not take long at all 👍
Just a thought - you don't normally give away customer addresses etc but you have on the Asbestos Report..
Got a couple of those stools years ago one for me and one for my son who’s an heating engineer who loved it until too much beer and takeaways broke his 😂 I've been using a Milwaukee packout crate stood on it's end with a cushion on alot lately 🤷♂️
Dont like those metal clips, look sharp might damage the PVC cables. I would of used metal strap banding with the plastic coating.
Armeg visit should sort you for box cutters, but I think there’s an issue with structural integrity chasing prefab & cast concrete that causes RAAC.
Literally 30 seconds from my house, wish I knew would've bought you some snacks 😂
Job like that for next rewire or fixing I would use some sort of conduit. In the days of windows 95 had a big job networking we wasted time taking celing tiles down and back up. Then my brain goes let's put a big run of drain pipe in with Ts this did save hours.
Beautiful, thank you man
Ah nice to see you just up the road from me. I was wondering if there were any local asbestos report companies. Now I know one to try. Cheers.
Probably better to chuck in than dicking about with floorboards and joists, and they get a nice flat ceiling once the plasterer have been at it.
You don't need to account for premature collapse when your cables are above a plasterboard ceiling. Your ceiling would need to collapse first, in which case it's already game over.
Yes you do when it's above doorways and escape routes
18th edition states you need to cover premature collapse everywhere now, not just above exits. The idea behind the cables being supported once the plasterboard ceilings have collapsed is so that firefighters aren’t caught up and tangled in cables when inside a burning building.
@@liampaine2984 So what do you fix to? If the plasterboard ceiling has come down it means the joists have burned through. All getting very silly.
@@markrainford1219 I suppose that’s why most places spec fire boards? Joists should hopefully still be intact by the time the boards go. About an hour I believe? It’s not about staying out of the way forever, it’s just maximising the time it stays up and out of the way I guess?
But the definition is 'premature' collapse. If it comes down only after a one hour, or half hour fire barrier, it didn't collapse prematurely. Premature means before anything else.@@liampaine2984
Yo Nick! Cracking VID bud! Loved it, and in fact learned a lot! Can you go more in depth on running data points please.? Cheers
Noted!
I always think it looks terrible having sockets at this high, I guess it's due regulations which is still completely stupid ...
Given that they're redoing the whole place, it seems like a real missed opportunity to fit insulation and dry lining - which would of course make your job a lot easier too!
I’m a sparky from Wolverhampton would love to know where this is so I can pop by and say hello 👍🏻
100K wooohoo
Nick it is 450mm from finished floor level to the Centreline of the backbox not the bottom for sockets
I know mate. Doesn’t matter for rewires though. Only new builds
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By doing it to the bottom of the sockets he’s going to be above the minimum 450mm so surely it’s the best bet in case your slightly off.
Power and CAT 6 should br 300mm away from each other
Id'd for a can of Monster? That's some insane regulations right there.
Do you think there's any benefit in using capping ? Like for potential rewires in the future.
Does look like a neat job, Nick. I didn't think the walls were concrete; I only came across them as ceiling planks I am surprised the concrete was easily drillable. Is there any reason why you have not used oval conduit on this one?
No oval tube in the drops .. plaster or render on cables .. no way to replace the cable if someone drill it later ..nah.. oval tube all the way.
Hi Nick, you do know you have just put the customers address on screen when you showed the Asbestos report at 0:33. Hope you and Adam are ok :)
That's NOT the customer's address. Their's is blurred out. 😂
Why not just use the chaser for the box as well? 🤔🤔
!! No flexi-con !! : )
Genuine question.
Do u need premature collapse fixings above a plasterboard ceiling Nick? Thought the plasterboard gave 30mins
Not really but better to over do it and good excuse to use the nail gun
Anyone got details for the stool?
No conduit in the walls?
I think 😂 you are wrong mate, that ain’t concert ceiling other than sand cement plastering
No capping or conduits?
Share the labour with Adam. You do lights,nice dropped ceiling. That Adam do the easy sockets
Still using 25mm back boxes 🙈
Just wondering, how come you aren’t using oval tube on this job for the drops for sockets, lights etc
why dont you use an angle grinder to cut the boxes out
Different sort of construction for domestic eh Nick.
how was it wired originally, metal conduit with singles?
Yes mate 👍
What’s that extendable stool you showed at the start nick?
A fish swam into a concrete wall.....Dam
😂😂
Nick. You may want to blur out the home address on the report?
I have mate cheers , it takes an hour to render itself again bud
Should be fine anyway, just an address which is empty too.
Over 8k rewire and you cant screw the back boxes in ? Cmon guys ffs lol .
Link for the stool?
In the report you've leaked the customers address
sorting it now mate
It still shows up @@NBundyElectrical
Hahaha!Thats not real concrete!!That is much harder than this.And it has small stones into it to give it much more strength.I know because in the Netherlands i come across a lot of those concrete houses!
Over engineered again, nice job
Trunking.
Looks awful mate
@NBundyElectrical I know but I'd still trunk it. Sticky back only no screws. CT1 on the patresses.
Why are you worried about premature collapse above a hoisted ceiling?
This doesn’t constitute premature collapse
Brilliant work Boys …that rewire should not take long at all 👍