51:20 great initiation and black hole but i think kuro made the best play of that fight. watch him blink onto high ground and keep wr and sk out of the action for a good 5 seconds.
And also, kuro used spike carapace on the dire creep with ion shell at 52:00 so that the dark seer will be stunned, allowing puppey to have the range to cast the mini-stun and dendi with the follow-up
Such a throw from Orange. Not only the aegis deny, but also the decision to fight Na'Vi after the Puck-buyback with Mushi BKB on cooldown. I don't think this would have happened if they didn't screw up collecting the aegis - it shook them up.
OMG! That denial mistake by Orange really turned the game! And I always thought Dendi was Godlike but from the respect he gave to Mushi, it shows, that Mushi is like Beyond Godlike. :D
Amazing game! Wow one of the best games I have seen, on the edge the whole time. When you think about it the ages deny lost orange the game. If they didn't they could have kept their momentum going and went off to push rax but they had to retreat and hold off till the next rosh. Xvost played an amazing life stealer so aggressive but always knew his limits.
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Great plays from both sides but a really impressive comeback from navi. Orange was pretty much in control of the early game but Navi with their great teamfights managed to turn it around even if they were behind. That aegis denial though.
He is a player from M5. It is a reference to TI2 when PGG executed an infamous blackhole - in which did not catch anyone at all, just like what puppey did - only worse.
Watching this match makes me sad a little. Look at the pick of the Orange, absolutely great. 2-3 guys are roaming, setting up kills, harrassing people and in the meantime, Mushi farms and becomes a true destroyer. However, the game prolongs and they lose, because with a great disabler/initiator like Puck, combined with Lifestealer the fucking monster, on top of that add Bounty Hunter, OD was simply not enough to out-carry them. I used to believe that it was kyxy who cost them the game but not exactly. I'm a huge fan of Mushi but that doesn't change the fact that they were a bit late to go high ground. Even with that aegis (the one that was denied), a team like Na'Vi would hold them at bay.
Why didnt orange pick up morphling as their last hero? He could waveform over spiked carapace or out of puck ult, shoot enigma to cancel his ult and if he got manta could dispell track
I think that Na'Vi plays so efficient, in the first 20 minutes Orange had a incontested leadership in the match. But at Rosh pit the Malasians lost a really important momentum in the game. And after that in all team fight Na'Vi got better and better results. At 41 minutes they kill 4 of Orange, seconds later that 3 buyback without any kill, hurts a lot Orange. I am not an expert but I think that Orange played the first better three fourths of the match, but they did not have a late game line up, just a OD can not deal with all the burst of Na'Vi. I really think that if they had a real carry like Mirana or Alch instead of Wind, their late would be way better and they would be able to compete with the radiant side more effectively.
What would have happened if they got the Aegis is that Orange would keep looking for fights by camping outside Na'Vi's base, while Na'Vi would wait out the Aegis expiration. This would further increase the lead for Orange so the denied Aegis pretty much changed the tempo of the game. That 6mins of Orange farming while Na'Vi sitting in base is enormous. So the denied Aegis significantly reduced Orange's chance of winning, especially since their heroes are not meant for sieging.
orange could have had this game. they were leading until after the aegis accident, then they panic and let it get to their head. should have continue to map controlled and not let Na'Vi farm at all. once Puppey had bkb that blackhole was unstoppable. still not to take anything away from Orange, they're spectacular. Ky.Xy played remarkably with Slardar / Magnus in the lower bracket and the whole team was just epic. after today, there will be alot more international orange fans out there
But, dont forget the fact that OD is a very strong hero in laning stages. No matter what hero u use, when ur up against OD, u know that u will have a very tough time in laning stages.
I would've chose an axe instead of windrunner. Neither are insane hard carrys but axe has better synergy with the dark seer and OD. Vacuum into axe so he can call then the OD ult.He can tank the Lifestealer which is nice but he will have to initiate with the Dark Seer.
Morgan Dibbins Nope. More heroes were nerfed/buffed after that international. You can't simply say that this hero is better/stronger than this because it was almost 2 years ago. Didn't you notice that no team picked Death Prophet during that time? Because she was a shitty hero before. And rat dota is just simply emerging way way back...
Earl Talatala But axe was not nerfed and was picked in tournament matches but it was wierd how axe wasn't picked in TI even though it was a perfect lineup
Morgan Dibbins Axe is NOT picked in any tournaments. The reason? Back then culling blade doesn't provide movement speed when you killed an enemy hero. And also, you're ult will have its cooldown even if you killed an enemy.
i think you didn't see the games they played against LGD china in TI2 in the winner bracket finals. I think they were the games with the highest level of skill ever played in dota. 1 or 2
This is ridiculous. Orange were clearly winning at the time before roshan, and winning even more aegis or not with the XP and the gold earned. Kudos to Na'vi for been able to turn a losing situation into a winning one.
Nice warding by Orange. Navi deserved to win because of their perseverance and determination. Too bad Orange denied their aegis. Was it a mistake or overconfidence? We´ll never know. Anyway we cant be sure if that aegis would-ed meant a win for orange.
I watched the replay more closely. The agies was big mistake, but what I think the game turned around into Navis favour is orange letting them full farm for 10 minutes after roshan. They should have not lost that tempo which kept navi on full pressure from though out the game (before that roshan)
if you watch, the next time that Mushi dies after the aegis deny was being chased down by Dendi...if he respawned there he wouldnt be able to do anything anyways, maybe just make Dendi lose out on gold and exp so didnt affect game too much
I think because mushi was on the OD, and hes they're carry player. They don't like to switch there roles, and if the got the morthling mushi would've have to take him, and his other teamates aren't experienced with OD
Maybe against a lesser team they could have pulled out the win but a mistake like that gets punished pretty hard by a team like NaVi - hard enough to cost them the game. It was just the beginning of a downward spiral that NaVi capitalized on.
50:00 it was 13-29, and 55:00 21-29, after destroyed aegis. I think it was cause for loss of Orange :-( They had great game, and lead whole time, but that mistake was their downfall. Only hope to see them in new tournaments next season.
Everyone said that Orange should have won if not for that aegis denied, but Puppey got bkb 1min ++ after that denied. seeing Navi won the 1st teamfight after Puppey got bkb with nearly full health in all of them, I think aegis doesnt make much difference
Mark Uy Not true. Mushi played very aggresively and this resulted in a number of overextensions in which he died or almost died. I agree that Mushi was the best player in the team, but you absolutely cannot ignore the other players. Kyxy played fantastically in particular.
dont care how much i would root foot navi but lets be honest.. they were lucky that orange screwed up big time in the last parts.. and look at it this way.. navi is a freagin huge team name whereas orange is new in the big leagues.. good job orange.. but please learn from mistakes
i dont play a lot of dota 2 but i dont understand why did navi won.i though the point was to destroy the enemy base.right? is there eny other way to win the game or did orange give up?
2020 and I'm still watching this game
it's always fun to look back
It's good. This Game was fantastic because funnik and kuroky thats tf they ever stund firts
Dota is deadwithout tobi i miss tobi so much
Hello from 2021 my friend hahahaha
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if dendi says this is the most memorable game he ever play,i need to watch it.
I love the respect given out by Dendi to Mushi at the end.
46:00 lul deny aegis, one game away to grand finals, what a deny
2020 still here watching the best TI ever
51:20 great initiation and black hole but i think kuro made the best play of that fight. watch him blink onto high ground and keep wr and sk out of the action for a good 5 seconds.
And also, kuro used spike carapace on the dire creep with ion shell at 52:00 so that the dark seer will be stunned, allowing puppey to have the range to cast the mini-stun and dendi with the follow-up
45:58 is what you're looking for
Thanks a lot for the fast upload, the stream is too laggy for me, thanks so much ! :D
Such a throw from Orange. Not only the aegis deny, but also the decision to fight Na'Vi after the Puck-buyback with Mushi BKB on cooldown. I don't think this would have happened if they didn't screw up collecting the aegis - it shook them up.
Still one of the best lower bracket comebacks
And amazing commentary by Tobi!!
Miss you so much my man Tobi i comeback to this blvid missing classic commentating all natural and classic art of commentating
Natus Vincere Dendi | 20 Questions brought me back here :D epic
OMG! That denial mistake by Orange really turned the game! And I always thought Dendi was Godlike but from the respect he gave to Mushi, it shows, that Mushi is like Beyond Godlike. :D
'How big are your balls right now?' I died. Hahahaha
51:50 "He is alive, HE IS ALIVEE, he is deeead :("
Navi won but damn Mushi, he was a beast at that tournament.
Its funny how this Bane didn’t max his enfeeble knowing that Lifestealer has a pretty high base damage 😂
Dota needs to be Televised this is just like an sport
I will never leave at front of T.V if that happen :D
Amazing game! Wow one of the best games I have seen, on the edge the whole time.
When you think about it the ages deny lost orange the game. If they didn't they could have kept their momentum going and went off to push rax but they had to retreat and hold off till the next rosh. Xvost played an amazing life stealer so aggressive but always knew his limits.
2021 and i still watching this insternational's semi final and final games
Waga: "The best games of the international have been orange's games"
Absolutely agreed.
XBOCT reflex at 54:35 was so important. The guy is a 10/10 carry.
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Great plays from both sides but a really impressive comeback from navi. Orange was pretty much in control of the early game but Navi with their great teamfights managed to turn it around even if they were behind. That aegis denial though.
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He is a player from M5. It is a reference to TI2 when PGG executed an infamous blackhole - in which did not catch anyone at all, just like what puppey did - only worse.
PGG!!!!!! i love that fight scene
one of the greatest comeback i've ever seen
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54:37
xboct with the quick finger
puppey is so sick team captain..best strats and positioning...
Watching this match makes me sad a little. Look at the pick of the Orange, absolutely great. 2-3 guys are roaming, setting up kills, harrassing people and in the meantime, Mushi farms and becomes a true destroyer. However, the game prolongs and they lose, because with a great disabler/initiator like Puck, combined with Lifestealer the fucking monster, on top of that add Bounty Hunter, OD was simply not enough to out-carry them.
I used to believe that it was kyxy who cost them the game but not exactly. I'm a huge fan of Mushi but that doesn't change the fact that they were a bit late to go high ground. Even with that aegis (the one that was denied), a team like Na'Vi would hold them at bay.
Watching old games to remember the days when dota 2 didn't suck. Fuck 6.82.
lmao fuckin kid
60 minutes farmfest with no initiation and shit heroes, ya so exciting
Oh so you're one of the children who loves the ridiculous bounties because you suck at farming and hate good players owning you, is that it?
lmao stay bad m8
You first, I bet your mmr is less than 1000, scrub.
I'm 4k but thanks
Furion with shadow blade 3 hours in top fucking kek
Why didnt orange pick up morphling as their last hero? He could waveform over spiked carapace or out of puck ult, shoot enigma to cancel his ult and if he got manta could dispell track
45:53 Aegis Denial lul
I miss Synderen... He may not be the most skilled, but he really knows what he's talking about.
The Puppy honesty and seriousness at the end was kinda great imo.
orange y navi son dos grandes del dota2 me encanta ver esta partida.
Proud to be a Malaysian !
I think that Na'Vi plays so efficient, in the first 20 minutes Orange had a incontested leadership in the match. But at Rosh pit the Malasians lost a really important momentum in the game. And after that in all team fight Na'Vi got better and better results. At 41 minutes they kill 4 of Orange, seconds later that 3 buyback without any kill, hurts a lot Orange.
I am not an expert but I think that Orange played the first better three fourths of the match, but they did not have a late game line up, just a OD can not deal with all the burst of Na'Vi. I really think that if they had a real carry like Mirana or Alch instead of Wind, their late would be way better and they would be able to compete with the radiant side more effectively.
What would have happened if they got the Aegis is that Orange would keep looking for fights by camping outside Na'Vi's base, while Na'Vi would wait out the Aegis expiration. This would further increase the lead for Orange so the denied Aegis pretty much changed the tempo of the game. That 6mins of Orange farming while Na'Vi sitting in base is enormous. So the denied Aegis significantly reduced Orange's chance of winning, especially since their heroes are not meant for sieging.
58:36 legendary moment
wonder if the denied aegis was the biggest factor for the turnaround
Can't believe Navi came back to win this...such a huge deficit...Orange definitely blew it.
orange could have had this game. they were leading until after the aegis accident, then they panic and let it get to their head. should have continue to map controlled and not let Na'Vi farm at all. once Puppey had bkb that blackhole was unstoppable. still not to take anything away from Orange, they're spectacular. Ky.Xy played remarkably with Slardar / Magnus in the lower bracket and the whole team was just epic. after today, there will be alot more international orange fans out there
But, dont forget the fact that OD is a very strong hero in laning stages. No matter what hero u use, when ur up against OD, u know that u will have a very tough time in laning stages.
Its not the same when Toby calls XBOCT Hvost instead of Xbox
I would've chose an axe instead of windrunner. Neither are insane hard carrys but axe has better synergy with the dark seer and OD. Vacuum into axe so he can call then the OD ult.He can tank the Lifestealer which is nice but he will have to initiate with the Dark Seer.
that strat that youŕe talking about was not yet discovered in that version bro thats a new meta i think?
yeh but if you are a drafter you have to think of all the possibilities.
Morgan Dibbins Nope. More heroes were nerfed/buffed after that international. You can't simply say that this hero is better/stronger than this because it was almost 2 years ago. Didn't you notice that no team picked Death Prophet during that time? Because she was a shitty hero before. And rat dota is just simply emerging way way back...
Earl Talatala But axe was not nerfed and was picked in tournament matches but it was wierd how axe wasn't picked in TI even though it was a perfect lineup
Morgan Dibbins Axe is NOT picked in any tournaments. The reason? Back then culling blade doesn't provide movement speed when you killed an enemy hero. And also, you're ult will have its cooldown even if you killed an enemy.
The thing about Orange is that they have great early/mid game. Did you see that dominate? But after that, they get over confident and get sloppy.
$344,929 to be exact.. that was the diff between 2nd and 3rd place.. 1st place was 1.4mil ($1,437,204)
The mistake of Orange was that aegis denial. That brought them down.
it was a good unpredictable idea...navi would never expect that triple b-back but orange was too late to make that decision...
totally agree. LoH plays enigma out of his mind
where I can come to see live dota 2?
amazing tenacity and composure shown by na'vi
Oh god that second commentator looks so uncomfortable getting yelled at with such strong eye contact by Tobi at 00:57
"a lovely red headed lady" I find that quite amusing haha
i think you didn't see the games they played against LGD china in TI2 in the winner bracket finals. I think they were the games with the highest level of skill ever played in dota. 1 or 2
This is ridiculous. Orange were clearly winning at the time before roshan, and winning even more aegis or not with the XP and the gold earned.
Kudos to Na'vi for been able to turn a losing situation into a winning one.
this game is relly awesome
how tall is puppey?
That was really fun to watch.
57:20 that decision by puppey to wrap around from the mid instead of just walking from near the rosh pit.
Nice warding by Orange.
Navi deserved to win because of their perseverance and determination.
Too bad Orange denied their aegis. Was it a mistake or overconfidence? We´ll never know.
Anyway we cant be sure if that aegis would-ed meant a win for orange.
of course it is a mistake, if download the replay and set your player perspective to kyxy u'll knw
A legendary Enigma player.
sorry bro but what's the meaning of PGG?
this is what you call fighting your hearts till the end!!
even tho orange lost you cnt deny that they played excellent dota. They just got themselves a fan :)
That was Orange game,but yea,Na`Vi get this.
I watched the replay more closely. The agies was big mistake, but what I think the game turned around into Navis favour is orange letting them full farm for 10 minutes after roshan. They should have not lost that tempo which kept navi on full pressure from though out the game (before that roshan)
Their morale drops at the shock of the Aegis denial so they weren't as good as they were in fights
thought the same too. Sometimes i just coulndt really understand pro picks
For me, even if WR doesn't deny the aegis.. Navi can still pull this off and they'll win the game either way..!! Navi!! Can't wait for TI 4..
idiot peenoy
if you watch, the next time that Mushi dies after the aegis deny was being chased down by Dendi...if he respawned there he wouldnt be able to do anything anyways, maybe just make Dendi lose out on gold and exp so didnt affect game too much
I think because mushi was on the OD, and hes they're carry player. They don't like to switch there roles, and if the got the morthling mushi would've have to take him, and his other teamates aren't experienced with OD
Maybe against a lesser team they could have pulled out the win but a mistake like that gets punished pretty hard by a team like NaVi - hard enough to cost them the game. It was just the beginning of a downward spiral that NaVi capitalized on.
50:00 it was 13-29, and 55:00 21-29, after destroyed aegis. I think it was cause for loss of Orange :-( They had great game, and lead whole time, but that mistake was their downfall. Only hope to see them in new tournaments next season.
The level of nervousness; you deny aegis.
That Denied didn't lose Orange's strength but lost their morale
Best game of navi ever.
what's PGG ?
Aegis Deny was game changing
Everyone said that Orange should have won if not for that aegis denied, but Puppey got bkb 1min ++ after that denied. seeing Navi won the 1st teamfight after Puppey got bkb with nearly full health in all of them, I think aegis doesnt make much difference
Mushi absolutely deserves the respect from Dendi.
The common theme with most Chinese teams is that once they have a lead, they don't know how to capitalize on their lead.
noob here, dont understand how kyxy denied the aegies?
that would have been a great pick, good ideas
don't forget though, kyxy landed two perfect RP's to get Orange to the LB finals, so I think that kinda makes up for it :P
Exactly, Mushi the maestro.
mushi carried this orange team all the way to 3rd place TI 3.
Mark Uy Not true. Mushi played very aggresively and this resulted in a number of overextensions in which he died or almost died. I agree that Mushi was the best player in the team, but you absolutely cannot ignore the other players. Kyxy played fantastically in particular.
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even without the aegis orange had a really huge advantage ahead of navi. The aegis would have just secured the win if they had it
Na'Vi would have still been farming at the same time due to most of the lanes being pushed up to their tier 3's
21min Scythe on OD and you still lose wtf???
wo ist eine Muschi ??
dont care how much i would root foot navi but lets be honest.. they were lucky that orange screwed up big time in the last parts.. and look at it this way.. navi is a freagin huge team name whereas orange is new in the big leagues.. good job orange.. but please learn from mistakes
i dont play a lot of dota 2 but i dont understand why did navi won.i though the point was to destroy the enemy base.right?
is there eny other way to win the game or did orange give up?
Saiyan Hunter they tap out
Great game
donde quedo este na'vi??? .......... el na'vi de ahora da pena :(
Espero que vuelvan a su nivel,pero es dificil el juego va cambiando con los parches y es difícil adaptarse.