Rickson Gracie in Conversation with Matt Thornton | SBG Video Podcast Episode 5
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- Опубліковано 4 жов 2024
- Matt Thornton interviews BJJ Brazilian Jiu Jitsu legend Rickson Gracie. It's a rare opportunity to hear from Rickson and we were very lucky to have him visit Portland Oregon in April. Now we have the privilege to bring Rickson to you via the SBG Podcast. We made the decision to publish this podcast despite the bad audio (during the interview) so our subscribers could benefit from the wisdom shared during this special conversation. We have addressed the audio quality for all future podcasts and thank you for your continued support.
I knew nothing about JJ, and never had practiced martial arts in my life, then one day I stumbled upon Rickson's Choke documentary, it is needless to say I started training right away. Now I'm a blue belt and forever thankful to this man for inspiring me to make one of the best decisions in my life. Thank You Rickson.
Where did you get your profile pic from?
If you haven't already look up renzos documentary legacy on here
I can't believe it took me until age 44 to find my tribe. On the one hand it feels hugely disappointing to have missed out on years of training and camaraderie, on the other, it's better than never finding one's tribe at all.
Thanks for all the great work. Hope we get to meet someday. Peace.
B G Notice the word "tribe" at the end of this video: ua-cam.com/video/OPR3GlpQQJA/v-deo.html
thanks for the encouragement! I'm 37 and feel it's too late to start...
I feel u, i think maybe had u found it earlier it wouldnt be the same. Gods miracle's are in the timing.
Same for me! After 25 years of Taekwondo I started BJJ at 43, now also 2 strip bluebelt and turning 47. Feel like I should have started in 1995 when I took up TKD, but, at least we started!
44 here. Just a one stripe white. I have the bug to be sure! Yes, I could probably easily have taken BJJ 10 years ago and been more advanced, but it is what it is. I'm glad I'm here now. The family where I'm at and the methodology of the curriculum is why I'm going to stay. I'm not at a meathead gym. I'm at a school where I stay after class to roll and talk with everyone, from the beginners to the instructors. Family.
29:55 when Rickson Gracie chokes up talking about his late father, Helio... That was the best part for me.
It was the closest anyone has ever been to choking Ricksom.
We need a Rickson Gracie book on jiu-jitsu and his way
there is a book now :-)
While the interview is great, the audio could be considerably improved with better (better setup?) microphones.
A lot of youtubers claim that audio quality is a major factor in how well received their videos are, more so than video quality. And I believe this is especially important for a podcast format.
Straight Blast Gym Portland Great job guys. Great interview. However the martial arts becoming "sportified " is the result of us living in a less bloody and violent society. Not everyone who trains wants to fight on the streets. I agree with Rickson, sporting rules allows alot of stalling and other bullshit. However since the Vale Tudo days, competition is inevitable. And with that comes certain rules for saftey that are prescribed in civilized society today. Dr. Jigoro Kano always talked about defeating your opponent in a humane way. I agree completely.
I see both arguments, Sports does shift the focus from self defence to competitive rules. But thats inevitable. And its up to the school to teach effective self defense. However safe competition has been the key to success to the IBJJF and UAEJJF and BJJ has spread like wild fire. But both organizations needs to be cognizant of not castrating BJJ with overly restrictive rules that renders it sterile. And that is difficult in and of itself. Other martial arts organizations can learn from this conversation.
Yeah, let Ian McCall know. His podcast is good but the audio is terrible!
@@Lamedvavnik Ya, he needs to do some progressive audio training!
@@fartsare2023 And that is the road to BJJ becoming just another sport MA. My MA Bujinkan is not perfect but at least there are no competitions with rules to water down the training. I see benefits to both sides having played judo. But, once you start down the sport side the money jumps in and the art is dead. It might take a 100 years but it will be lost. The only way it might not be lost is due to modern vidio being able to hold old techniques for the future. Peace is sadly not the normal human state of affairs. You might be safe but will your grandkids be?
When he talks about the confidence and people going from looking at the ground to looking people in the eyes that really struck home. I brought my son to a free class and he loved it. Six months later he now does that looks people in the eyes when he's shaking hands. BJJ is one of the best things that ever happened to him. Thank you.
He really needed bjj to know how to do that?! how about not being a little B! Lifting weights could have done that as well!
This is absolutely awesome Rickson is truly one of my hero's and a pure legend! Thank you straight blast and thank you Thornton for all you've done!
I don't care about the audio but like most things there's always room for improvement. What is important is that you posted this video! Big fan of Rickson. Thank you and keep up the good work.
I trained at Straight Blast in Portland in the mid 90's w/only 3 years wrestling and 2 years karate and only trained for 6 months before getting injured and had to quit, but the BJJ no-gi basics I learned are still with me today as well as learning how to fight in a boxing stance and learning how to throw a boxing jab and straight cross. I still can throw a good punch and appreciate the practical self defense I learned there. That's what I went there for and that's exactly what I got, and I still have retained that information.. Thanks Matt!
BJJ legend 'Rickson Gracie'. Martial arts personified IMHO. A true master of his art. Thank you for uploading.
The part of giving children more gifts if they loose to make them not afraid of trying and not frustrated after loosing is very interesting.
This is an unbelievable video, thanks so much. I was lucky enough to train under Rickson a few times, and train under one of his blackbelts where connection is the focus of every technique. Until you do a connection class, is when you will understand why Rickson lives up to the myth.
I have now watched this for the 20th time. So great. Can’t go wrong with Rickson and Matt!
I love the way they broke down isolating , training and mastering techniques. I've never studied ma formally but would love to have the chance to work with Rickson. His knowledge is vast and his philosophy permeates his entire life.
I've been drifting in and out of bjj for the past 20 years. I love it passionately but felt something is missing. Rickson just explained it to me, I really want to be apart of his organisation. Would love to train at a SBG as well. This interview was amazing..... Good work guys.
Wonderful interview! Enlightening as a new (2 weeks in) White Belt.
Also, the audio was no where near as horrific as most comments made it seem. A little too much reverb, and echo, possibly, but was completely distinguishable.
Thank you for the time putting this together!
That is by far the best Rickson interview on the net
Thank you for the interview! Please drop the background music and improve the mics, this knowledge is too important!
Besides the audio not being clear, the interview itself was phenomenal. The setting was very mystic, detailed questions, and the spirit was felt through every second. Thank you so much for this amazing podcast. Oss
Desmund Reid I like hearing Rickson hit his arm and say "juice up" like u take steroids in the veins or something.
its always a great pleasure watching Rickson talk , we can learn a lot from him . Thank you
This was great interview. Thanks so much! Rickson is the greatest!
Mau Vau, thank you for watching!
Wow great interview . Thank u very much . I attended a seminar with Rickson last month he is a true inspiration and I totally agree our clubs need to be doing the self defence .
This is on my top list of most favourite interviews ever. What a pleasure to watch! The passion is addictive and infectious! Two men I absolutely respect, just laying it out in a dimly lit, intimate room. I'd pay to be there over a headline fight any day.
The training method Rickson described is called situational sparring by some coaches. It is one of the methods I use to develop many aspects of my game. I think this method does more than develop one's timing. It also cultivates experience and familiarity with the skill/technique.
Awesome stuff Matt, Thank you
That anectod of Helio askin' his him if he can use his stuff is amazing !!
Me before jiu jitsu I was training muay thai...it was in an martial arts magazine that I saw Rickson Gracie for the first time. And I really say I could feel the vibe and the intensity that is emanating from him. He is the reason started training jiu jitsu
Amazing video. Thanks for sharing. Only a true educator cares enough about his students to really feel what they are feeling.
The tao of Rickson!
Gives true purpose to train BJJ.
Whenever i feel anxiety before class or lose focus.. just need to listen to interview.
After all ..geez.. its ALL no big deal.. BUT need to push and put on the pressure when training!
46 yr close to purple..we all like to win but keeps things in perspective..jiu jitsu is transcending
Salute Master Rickson!!! I owe you and your good family so so much. Many thanks and much gratitude to Master Thornton as well for this fine presentation.
Amazing to hear him speak his English is Highest level I've ever hear before for a Brazilian born and raised Master this is cool.
Thank you for recording this piece of martial art history with Rickson. Please setup the audio accordingly net time ;-)
Great interview with the master.
I love it! THE Rickson Gracie at 9 minutes and 22 seconds calls out the Jiu Jitsu world for steroid use!
You heard him say, “they juice up!”
From where I am sitting I am saying FINALLY!
Mr Rickson, Great and humble human being!
WOW! Thank you SBG, I really enjoyed this interview.
I'm a big fan of Master @Rickson Gracie. He changed my life. That being said Brazilian jiu-jitsu is a piece of self-defense today. Knowing stand up Muay Thai wrestling yes wrestling in the clinch kickboxing boxing is the wave of the future for self-defense. Brazilian jiu jitsu by itself against an untrained fighter is okay but against the train fighter you'll get smoked.
What a great interview. Good questions but i wish there were alot more :D could sit and listen to u guys for days. Good to see rickson so emotional and to know that the fire is still there.
I will :) Hopefully our roads will cross sometime and I can both learn and listens to stories face to face :)
Great interview
Helped me in my choice of Academy
Great great fighter with God given natural ability .. wonderful interview, tearful towards the end, felt his emotions as I lost my father as a teenager .. God bless and peace brother
Great interview!💪
Fantastic interview. Very inspirational. Looking forward to Mr.Thorton's seminar next weekend @ SBG Buford!
awesome thanks
I love this! Matt meets his rolemodel and the video is shared for us! Thank you.
My "digital Rickson" was actually Matt himself! i learned so much of him!
Great interview! i was looking forward to this. It seems like Rickson was willing to talk longer, i wish the interview continued. maybe they wanted to respect his time.
great job again. this interview also made me aware of your gym and your chain of gyms. pardon my naiveness but i never had heard of it and its impressive success stories. continued success sir!
i'm in new jersey :( but i'll watch your podcast and videos from now on. your lucky to have trained under chris hauester (sorry if i mispelled) and rickson. very few have.
Great interview but the music in the back was distracting. Thank you for a great interview.
Thank you so much for sharing this!
BJJ is life changing for sure. Thanks for the awesome podcast
Great work.
Thank you!
Awesome ..I thank you for asking the question about training as we get older..the mind set and physically !
Super Inspiring. (please reuload the video with a remastered audio, would be great) Greetings from Chile.Oss.
very good interview
man that part rickson got emotional talking about his father i think it changed my life
Great interview.Thanks for sharing
Thanks a lot. Very nice interview.
Amazing interview! Thanks for sharing that!
Legend!!
a living legend!
I wonder why Rickson doesn't push the idea that BJJ guys have to get into MMA fighting to stay on azimuth with real fighting. I get it's a sport but it's still the realest thing we have. The submission only no time limit only doesn't seem like how real fights play out in my opinion because cops get called or people get involved. This is a fantastic video by the way
grande mestre, ninja e samurai: orgulho de ser humano e brasileiro. take care.
Nice work.
Esse é o cara !!! O verdadeiro mestre.
A comment about the process of learning that Rickson and Matt talk about early in the interview (and Matt says is still not commonly followed). . . Other types of artists who need to develop great skill within a larger complex setting do something similar in their practicing. I have never trained Jiu-Jitsu (I hope to in the future). But I have recently become fascinated through various UA-cam videos such as this. This idea of practicing in the way you describe reminds me of what good musicians do (I have played drums since 4th grade). One of the things that separates great from mediocre musicians is how they approach practice sessions. The basic idea: isolate, then integrate (first, integrate into the near context, then into the larger whole). When great musicians go to learn a new piece of music, they don't just put up the sheet of music and play through it from start to finish--the entire piece--over and over. They may do this once or twice. But they will quickly zero-in on the most challenging and difficult spots within the piece. They will isolate those sections and work in a very focused way on those specific parts until they have mastered them technically. Then, they will work on integrating those sections into their near contexts with the parts that come before and after, achieving flowing transitions. And then, finally, put it all together with the entire piece from start to finish.
For example, let's say the letters A-B-C-D-E-F-G represent the sections, in order, of a new piece of music. After playing it through once or twice, the musician identifies that section D is the most difficult for him to play. So, at that point he will isolate section D and practice it until it is mastered. After mastering the hard part in isolation, integrating the isolated section back into the context of the whole so it all becomes seamless and smooth is very important. So, the musician will then practice D and E together, adding on the part that comes immediately after it. He will practice D and E together in order to work on the connection--the transition--between D and E until it flows easily. He links them up in his skill development so they flow well. He will then go back and do the same for the transition between C and D. He'll play through sections C and D together to work the flow between those two. Then, he'll do C, D, and E together. In this way, he stitches together the harder section D with the parts before and after it, so that he not only can play the section well in isolation, but will have integrated it into the flow of what comes immediately before it and after it. And then the entire piece will be practiced finalizing the subtler nuances of feeling and style, dynamics, tempo, etc. Good musicians practice new pieces of music this way all the time. Seems very similar in how you talk about first drilling a technique to learn the skill, and then doing a middle step of integrating this effectively into a near context (timing--getting the right sense of connectedness and flow) without wasting training time by jumping right from a technique drill into a free roll. The goal is to isolate, then integrate. This, it seems to me, is a three-step progression of 1) drilling a specific technique, 2) repeated partial-training with that technique against resistance to integrate it and master timing, connection, and flow, and 3) rolling--placing it into the whole.
Inexperienced musicians waste lots of practice time by taking a new piece of music and instead of isolating tough sections and then integrating them into the whole, they just play through the entire piece over and over. In this way, they never get really good at the entire thing because they don't spend enough practice time on the tougher parts to master them. Or, if they do isolate the more difficult parts, they miss the next essential aspect of then integrating it back into the whole by working on the transitions between what comes immediately before and after. So, you can end up with a musician who can play the tough section isolated by itself, but can't play through the entire piece as a whole without messing up the difficult section as it occurs in the midst of the whole because they don't know how to weave it back into the whole in a seamless integrated way.
Rickson is like the Bruce Lee of BJJ. Lots of storys of what hes done but hadly any footage of him actually doing it.
??? ua-cam.com/video/DqTbef4ozQk/v-deo.html , ua-cam.com/video/8dPlxR7DZ-U/v-deo.html
Rickson, a true samurai
And the one who showed jiu jitsu is more than a sport
would love this "control with the whole body" concept to be broken down into fine detail with examples ....
Still waiting :)
great video, nice work thank you..
Distracting background music.
Yup... a lot
Trying too hard to set an intense atmosphere.
Great interview! Two OG Yodas... very cool. Good job SBG!
The background music is pretty triply🧘♀️
LOVE RICKSON , rickson ,Rolls are the best in family.... BUT RICKSONS SON ICE CREAM KRON GRACIE IS A SAVAGEEEE
Rickson is a pretty cool dude.
Awesome interview, thanks alot!!
but i'm guessing something went wiry with the audio because the intro had perfect audio.
Great Interview.
Greatest of all time.
The editing could use some work. Less background noise/music.
You guys rock!
Loving the background music!
I wonder how many people do BJJ now or vale tudo because of meeting and rolling with Rickson? A magic person who is on the next level.
Omg he tells more than his sports
I wish I didn't see under the foot while the master talks.
Respect!
Thank you great video👍🏻👍🏻❤️
Great interview, though I would echo the comment that the other poster made about the sound quality. If this is something that you are intending to do on a regular basis, and I hope it is, some clearer sound would really make this more enjoyable. I found myself watching this is bursts of a minute or two at a time rather than all the way through because of it. Thanks for the interview! Cheers,
No worries! Thanks again for the interview.
one awesome individual...........
Prefect audio....
Wow!!
Shouldve kept the background music through the whole video
regarding the comment on getting less capable as you age, you should look into arts that are capable of developing skill as an old person. Tai Chi, Bagua Zhang, systema, all have methods that can keep you growing as a martial artist in old age. As an ex karate sensei, I asked this same question, but then I went out and found men in their 60's, 70's and 80's who were still legitimately powerful and functional. capable of developing their bodies and their art as old men(people). the arts I mentioned have much to teach any older martial artist. I have focused on these arts and this goal since that time, and there is SO much more older fighters can do to keep going. but they have to accept that their base art is not complete, but rather it's focused on developing the skills in a way that is optimized for a young person. you have to learn how to train as an old man. the technology is out there. it takes 30+ years to really master something (I have heard doctors and other people say 50 is a real game changer) but you have to keep your art alive; you have to learn an old man's art. taoism is rooted in this way of doing things. for those who are truly curious, it's totally worth checking out. or hit me up, im happy to share what ive learned...OSS
Great video, but please fix the audio.
Great interview. But the background music was very distracting and not needed.
Is Rickson pronounced Hickson?
@The Afflicted not all Portuguese but 70%. Angola, northern Portugal, few islands, Mozambique, some parts of Brazil. They roll it like Spanish.
Yes, definitely, in portuguese, it's pronounced Hickson, Henzo, Horion.
The problem with self defense is that it's a lot of times very boring to train and I have yet to attend a school where the teachers were successful in finding a training modality which makes self defense fun to train. Or at least not so boring. It's also hard to train self defense with proper timing since we're not going full pace like we do in rolling. I'd love to train at a school that teaches self defense that way but have yet to find it. Hence why people looking for that go to MMA. Really great talk though
its the same in every martial art, when competitions are made
Everytime unlocky for us brazilian, cause there`s no subtitles in portuguese, That´s a Pity.
Hello, I'm wondering if you could explain the belt system. I've heard blue belt level is learning all the techniques of BJJ and progressing upper belts just means understanding those techniques. Is this true? Thanks.
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Real jiu-jitsu master Rickson Gracie
Awesome video I think I share Rickson's view on Jiu Jitsu & it staying applicable as the main reason I started training & initially started.
That being said I love watching the tournaments. In his journey to change the rules why not work directly with his cousin Carlos Gracie jr.? Let's be honest he run jiu jitsu and all the major tournaments that these major academies and black belts prescribed too.
ADCC rules are awesome ADCC Pro is making strides in the gi tournament with action & featuring fighters.
But still IBJJF is the big boy on the block and getting bigger. It comes off that discussing dislike for the rules could be taking a shot directly at Carlos Junior. I don't see change that way.
Push to meet with Carlos behind close doors and ascertain some changes in the rules that I think would be well received. Discussing this publicly I don't see it getting the results for as long as the global Federation has been around. Just my opinion
Great interview! Too bad rickson is so old. Idve loved to see his interpretation of what pure bjj vs mma would be. That said, honest question to any knowledgeable guys here: i was surprised he and kron are against stalling. Isnt stalling and wearing people down part of the martial art approach of bjj?
You're across every contenant, highest paid fighters, have the greatest to ever do it on.... get better mics mate! like, give me a shout next time, I'll fly there and pay all my own expenses
That droning music in the back ground was ok for the intro but it is very annoying to have it playing during the discussion...
Definitely the best interview with rickson I've heard. Great job and very informative and personal .
Rickson sounds very interesting and profound, and I hope to meet him one day. Sometimes he laughs after he is finished talking, but he has not actually said anything funny. Just an observation.