Lord Kinnock: 'Corbyn should do his duty and resign' - BBC News
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- The Labour leader Lord Kinnock has said there has been "a significant shift" away from supporting Jeremy Corbyn at a grassroots level - and many people joining the party now have "serious doubts" about his suitability for the job. Speaking to Andrew Marr, he read out Chapter 4 of the Labour Party's rules - insisting that Mr Corbyn did not have enough support from parliamentary colleagues to carry on "and should do his duty to the party and resign".
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This has actually aged well. Think he has won the argument
no he didn't Labour lost 2017 because of these 3rd way traitors.
12from121 and what’s your excuse for 2019? The press? Racists? Brexit? Come on, just admit that Corbyn was an electoral car crash from beginning to end.
@@mobro538 Kind of ironic attack don't you think? Holding up one result in isolation. I think he ran a god awful shitshow campaign in 2019 and showed the political instincts of a lemming.
I would also agree, though I had nothing against Corbyn at the time, and still don't.
@@12from121 Read the Labour Party report published towards the end of his tenure. The party officials were in full swing by then so, yes, a great deal of sabotaging. Of course, the report could be wrong, in which case we can look at the list of all those libel cases won against it after its publications which amount to, at least count... oh yes... none.
Kinnock's point about party members was absolutely spot on!
Definitely!
Kinnock is right. Corbin is the modern day Michael Foot.
And what was and is Kinnock? A Labour leader who shit on the working class so no change there right?
the only thing that makes people the modern day michael foot, is saying that they are the modern day michael foot. if everyone believes something then it becomes the case. monkey-see, monkey-do. it is people like you who are at fault for him supposedly being deemed "unelectable".
But you cannot even spell Corbyn.
Corbyn was more like a modern day and a lacklustre Tony Benn.
@@stevenpaulgoulding What exactly is the point you are making?
Spot on! A man who answers questions, Corbin go and tend your carrots they don't ask awkward questions or maybe ones that he can answer. Don't let the sprouts ask anything he will throw his little red book!
Lol. Bit cruel but funny!
And Corbyn should spend hours looking at his prized collection of manhole covers.
"If you value your principles, compromise your principles."
'if you value your principles, don't pretend you follow them then turn around once party leader and stab the left wing in the back"
JC's duty is to represent the people who elected him ,quitting will be dereliction of duty
Corbyn was elected by the left of the Labour Party.
Very sorry to see this...
'LORD' Kinnock! lord...l-o-r-d...says it all really.
Shameful coup on Corbyn.
I'm no fan myself, but to be fair, 'Lord' is what you get called when you join the House of Lords.
@@halfaworldaway more, after years of service
Jeremy Corbyn stands for real values. Why did Kinnock accept such an anachronistic title? Corbyn has the integrity to refuse to stoop to the power of the aristocracy and the class system that it feeds on. JC is true to a modern set of values based on merit and not inheritance. Bravo.
Corbyn stands only for himself as well as for minorities and supporting terrorists and brutal dictatorships. He is a millionaire who was privately educated, lives in a property worth £925.000 and that makes him a hypocrite.
I want to vomit……you’re poorer and you’ve lost your freedom of movement because of Corbyns support for the Tories. Open your eyes , if Covid hasn’t closed them forever.
The Plutocrats are in a class war with the populace. "it's all about power." 1984
Is it just me, or does Kinnock look like a younger man in an unconvincing "old suit" ?
He's an old man in an old suit and a big mouth
Old shit in an expensive EU suit.
The plain fact is that Corbyn is not a ‘challenger’ under any reasonable interpretation of the word. Thus, the drafters could not possibly have intended this rule to apply to him. Thus the only sustainable conclusion is that Corbyn, as the current leader, has an automatic right to run.
This conclusion accords with common sense. The purpose of the rule is to stop time wasters with no hope of winning from standing. The current leader cannot objectively be considered a time waster.
A traitor to the miners!
Scargill should have held a ballot and the outcome of the strike could have been different.
Hmm, so Neil...you were saying?
Ketchup tastes best with humble pie
The facts are Maggie won 3 elections by massive margins and Blairs new labour party then won 3 elections simply because Blair and almost all the labour Mps were tories in everything but name only .In other words the labour voters vote for Blair exactly because they knew he was a conservative .Hence why he won those elections.So in reality labour have not won an election for close to 40 years,
Yes….and….??? Give your brain a chance.
Gee I never knew Conservative were the best at handing the NHS and the Economy, thanks for opening my eye.
The provision can be interpreted two ways. Kinnock thinks it means Jeremy can't be the leader, but it could also be interpreted as a requirement of MPs to back the democratically elected leader.
Does Kinnock still get that huge EU pension when the UK leaves Brussels?
Corbyn is a millionaire.
@@stevenpaulgoulding No Starmer is and stabbed Corbyn in the back over Brexit and other issues.
@@clemalford9768 What did Corbyn stood for on Brexit?
@@stevenpaulgoulding Corbyn was confused over Brexit. Why people say Corbyn was radical I don't know. In my book he wasn't. I disagreed with him on several issues. But maybe he was naive about Starmer as he should have realised Starmer was nowhere on the left and a Blair clone. I did and I am no genius on human behaviour. I did attend meetings hevorganised with MP Tulip Sadiq trying to reverse the people's choice on Brexit. Maybe the 'Sir' was a clue and Starmer's inaction while he was DCPS over the Savile and child grooming gangs cases. Might have spoiled his political career opportunities!!
@@stevenpaulgoulding He isn't. His house value went up as others did due to both the Tories and Labour's design and low council house building programme and open door policies on immigration.
Kinnock....Remember when you were rejected twice by the British electorate? Yet you still managed to weasel your way onto the EU Commission by appointment, often making more important decisions than our elected PM. Please don't comment on democratic issues, you are not worthy!
So was Corbyn.
Another Corbyn sycophant. How did Corbyn fare ?
Marr’s bias is disgraceful. Paid a fortune by the public and he doesn’t have the decency to appear impartial.
No doubt about JC here!
The pot calling the kettle black. That's ritch
gfy lol "that's rich " lord kinnock probably is off the back of the EU gravy train .
Hold on Kinnock, you lost two general elections didn't you?
NagleOliver hold on Oliver Jeremy lost 2 election terribly
@@bradconway7200 He did really well in the first election when you consider how far behind he was before the election. In the second he was made unelectable, not due to his own incompetence but due to a long dishonest media campaign against him
@@paulhanck1123 There was definitely a dishonest media campaign against Corbyn, but there was against Kinnock too! Additionally, Kinnock improved Labour's standing in the 2 he contested, whereas as Corbyn was odd - he done much better than expected the first time, then done much worse than expected the second.
Corbyn was good at getting votes, but in our system it's the seats that matter and, sadly, that's where he fell short ☹️
@@bradconway7200 Indeed. The point still stands. Kinnock is no more qualified to talk on the issue than Corbyn. He has the same success rate, only with a lower vote share than Corbyn.
@@Dan-dp3fq Hardly. Corbyn secured the biggest increase in vote share since 1945, something Kinnock failed to do. If you want to talk about context, then it would be better to look at the factors at play that stopped that translating into a win. He was still more successful than Kinnock.
*Kinnock - A huge reason the House of Lord needs a deep cleaning process, a total waste of honest taxpayers money.*
Kinnock this hasn't aged well.
Oh yes it has !!
TOLD Y'ALL !!!!! I bet Kinnock's getting even more pissed than usual tonight !!!!! LOLOLOL !!
Just as well they got rid of Corbin. What a waste of space....
Excellent Leader of the Opposition but....... a bit of a waffler ;-)
take his wealth jezza
From Jimmy Savile to Neil Kinnock. 🤔
Prescient
shame on kinnock
Enjoying your poverty and the loss of your freedom of movement, are you ?
he was elected so why should he step down? this old man seems to have things backwards. kinnock should step down, off a ledge. what a disgrace
A failed politician a ex-EU commissioner supporting the aspirations of his Oxbridge educated establishment owned son..Shame on you Neil.
***** its not the Labour party that's the problem its the Parliamentary Labour party (PLP) that's the problem for the most part none of them have never held down a real job.
For them them it was University, then a sweet research/advisory/Admin position or two, then a safe seat in Westminster.
I doubt any of them know even what a lathe is, a oxyacetylene torch is, or how to use one.
How long ordinary people have to wait to get healthcare, struggle in finding good schools/ education for their children, finding a gravy job like they have or even how much a pint of milk costs.
Don't forget the career of a whistle blower he wrecked for doing her job and exposing corruption and fraud in the eu
Very good speaker. Completely disagree, but very well put forward.
I'm not British so admittedly I'm not "vested" in this issue but Mr. Kinnock does make a pretty strong case for his position here.
no he doesn't lol. the leader should be accountable to the party, not the MPS. kinnock is only interested in making this point as he has a grudge against the left of the party ever since he betrayed them back in '83.
@@cherylno583 Neil Kinnock’s words are as relevant now as they were 40 years ago.
" For the sake of Democratic socialism" let's try something else, try some democracy
Total tosh
HAHAHAAAHHHAHAHAHHAHA!!!!!!!!!
Tory plant Kinnock.
Corbyn assisted the Tories.
@@stevenpaulgouldingyes
So sad. Im 43, when Kinnock lost in1992, it was so sad. Now he cant back another left wing leader, so sad.
Corbyn was unbackable from the get go. Labour is now a complete lost cause
No left-winger has ever won a general election for the Labour Party and never will. Sir Keir Starmer has returned Labour to the centre ground and the party’s is now on course to win the next election.
Sorry Neil, you sold out.
Lord pillocks, lifetime ticket on the eu gravy train.
git, seen his eyes , scare , shipyard get stones throw at him, he RUN a lie said no scare,