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The Outlook For the Brickyard 400 Has Changed
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- Опубліковано 4 вер 2024
- The 2024 Brickyard 400 marks the return of the Indianapolis Motor Speedway oval for the first time in four years and also marking the 30th year since the inaugural event. For the vast majority of NASCAR fans there seems to be a ton of optimism and excitement heading into an event only four years ago many wanted removed from the schedule. So why is there such a disparity in opinion in this time? We want to look at it here. The outlook for the Brickyard 400 has changed.
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Let's just hope it isn't 2008 or 2020 again with the tire failures
Fun fact: both years were marred by recession, which contributed to said tire failures (and if not tire failures, the COT did it in, hopefully the Next Gen pulls an Auto Club at the Brickyard)
looking at practice i haven’t seen anything
You know that they tested the tires, right
And that is isnt 2017 with the constant wrecks
The 2020 race wasn’t too bad with tires (especially compared to 2008)
I think the oval is cool, it's about the prestige of winning there and not so much the excitement factor. Really wish they would do a road course/oval double header weekend
Exactly not every race has to be a thrill show
FACTS I want 2 weeks at Indy.
The road course is amazing and half of the grade 1 tracks in the US.
These are tracks that should be the bench marks for road racing in NASCAR.
No
Fun fact: I had a dream last night of being at Indianapolis watching a race that went back and forth from IndyCar to NASCAR every caution
I dont understand why they chose to race against one of the biggest sprint car races only 100 miles away, not going to help attendance
Nascar executives are braindead
My two biggest theories is that either 1) NASCAR was planning on crushing that race and winning over those fans, or 2) It was the only spot on the schedule they could feasibly put it. Of course, there's a third theory, but I don't want to be too negative on certain people.
Probably and f you to stewart or they just ran out of dates. Combination of both probably
@@nascarfanatic2425I think the Olympics played a big part (NBC will broadcast The Olympics in US)
@@AnarRamazanov-po5le That's true, too.
Year 1 will be a success due to the novelty of it returning, the following years are the real test. They definitely should not run up against eldora's kings royal week in the future.
Less people care about eldora than Indy
I came all the way down from Canada to see this race for my birthday weekend. Practice was I N S A N E L Y loud, even with headphones. Really hope the racing is good, and it looks somewhat promising so far
Very dumb to have it the same weekend as Eldora's Kings Royal, I would have gone otherwise
I am going to both but yeah it's gonna be a packed weekend
Nascar vs Tony Stewart
@@usleadershipareliars i doubt it, they are probably just clueless, this is the same group of people who had a dirt race at Bristol during the middle of the day
Yeah I completely agree what is that about. Maybe trying to cash in on the larson factor?
Let’s be honest dirt fans aren’t exactly a super important demographic to nascar
I thought the road course was fine, I'm sure most nascar fans hate it though. And yes, why run against ohio's biggest oval race the day before?
Watching practice right now and the cars look so good on the oval! Very glad to see this race back. Almost 200 into the corners too. About 30 mph drop of speed in the corners too, a little more as the tires wear. I think there might actually be passing too because handling is going to matter, and oddly enough, I think the shifting might actually help in the passing (a lot of cars are downshifting into 1 and 3).
Similar to 1994 lol
What turn were they going almost 200? I thought I only saw low 180's
@@TidesGatein qualifying today the cars were hitting 197 by themselves and in practice numerous cars hit 200 in the draft
@@xdaddyduragx7989 Yep you're right. Went to the 400 the next day and they were actually hitting 200 into turn 1!
I was always for the Brickyard 400 and not going to the road course (although I wasn't against trying it). It's a crown jewel and it's the Indy oval. Just because it's not constant side by side, beating and banging, or isn't in a superspeedway pack doesn't make it boring. Strategy would be way better without stage cautions though.
What are you expecting out of the 2024 Brickyard 400?
Honestly... it being a disappointment. Larson or Byron dominating the race and nobody passing anyone.
I’m going in with the lowest of expectations. It’s a great track but the years before it was removed was depressing attendance and race wise. Just being better than mid would be a success.
There Going To Be a Big One Like 2017
No real drivers in the field anymore. The last of them retired in 2023
Brad Keselowski winning.
There’s a saying in pro wrestling, that the only way to get what you want, is to leave and come back. Nascar wants more fans at Indy? Leave, and come back. They’ll show up.
I'm going to be there at Indy this weekend, but not every race has to be a banger of a race. I enjoy strategy races as well, but seeing Nascar Cup cars go around the oval will be awesome either way. We as NASCAR fans don't really know what we want most of the time. I have been a NASCAR fan for 25 years and these same arguments about what we need to change and what is a good race, etc have always been talked about. Not every race needs to be side by side, closest finish in history to make them special. You can have pack racing, 1.5 mile side by side racing and strategy racing and its all good. That is what makes NASCAR great, that you have all different types of race tracks and types of racing products.
Even if Indy becomes boring I don't think the strategy of the race will help the race either. In fact Strategy doesn't always play out as people expect.
Risky to race against eldora in the sprint car crazy midwest
I live super close to eldora and yes the indy race seems not so hyped around here but I like both racing series.
@@NickClements-x9f what??
Having it the day after eldora is definitely an F you to Tony Stewart
The Paul Menard win is one of my favorite moments at Indy. It was kinda like Michael Waltrip winning his first Daytona 500
Indy to NASCAR is what Monaco is to F1.
Major crown jewel and everybody wants to win it, however, the racing is generally ok to good at best. It’s perfectly fine though. With INDY it’s about the speedway and winning not necessarily the points standings.
@@nolandavis9040 Monaco can actually gather a crowd unlike the Brickyard 400.
@@nikhook9430 it’s all about size. Indy has 4x the seating capacity that Monaco’s grandstands holds. If you condensed all of the fans down to the same grandstands it would like fairly similar. Now granted the end of the Brickyard 400 oval years wasn’t great I’ll give you that
@@nolandavis9040 no point for NASCAR to go to places where we don’t sell out and are not wanted
Nascar can’t bring in 250,000 people in general anywhere
I can’t wait. Leaving in the morning to go!
I'm just looking forward to actually visiting the racetrack. I'll enjoy the race to obviously, but the main draw is just being in a place thats so important to motorsports in general and being able to soak it all in.
This was the race I’ve been waiting for all year and it’s here. Heck, I love the Daytona 500 Talladega short tracks, but boy oh boy this race excites me more than ever let’s go! Go Hendrick motorsports! I like the road course scenery I really liked the 2021 race the best I liked the chaos on the start and restart. The only thing I liked about 2023 was no stage breaks. There should be no stage in general to keep it more natural, but for the sake of drama, I love the starts and restarts! They say they might rotate the road course after 2025 back in. Here’s what I think we need to do keep the oval permanently, but if NASCAR needs another road course to fill in the gap to replace another road course or once in a good while or we go to Indy twice a year for two different events like the Charlotte Oval and Roval! I’m not a Formula One fan, but I challenge Formula One drivers to the Indy oval since they race on that road course
I’m glad to see the oval back and, aside from the history, the cool thing in my opinion is that it’s a really difficult track so you don’t just luck into a win there. Like Darlington, you first have to race the track. We may not see a four wide sprint to the finish line and that’s all right. I’m a huge fan of all different kinds of racing and appreciate the value of a well executed strategy over the course of a tough race just as much as a wild finish. Like baseball, there are so many layers that aren’t apparent on the surface but make for an interesting show if you understand what’s really going on. I guess what I’m saying is that this one may be more appealing for the racing purist than the casual sports fan but that’s important to have too. The variety of tracks and racing styles in NASCAR is great and I think we need to appreciate each for what it is.
hot take i loved the indy road course.
Not that hot, this take appears hotter than it is because the people who hate road courses are a very vocal minority
Indy road course suuuuuucked! Very happy to have the oval back. Excited to see how the new car performs on it.
Can’t wait to see how it is with the NextGen…
I and a lot of other Hoosiers just want a hometown guy to win
Larson is cool too I guess
I'm honestly hoping that the race turns out to be fun and enjoyable again! Some in the comments are forgetting that the prestige of Indy is the traditional oval, not the road course.
Yup. And not to mention that NBC is carrying the race, not CRINGE sports, so we're bound to get a better broadcast by default
The prestige of the Oval really doesn't do anything though. It has basically become another track on the schedule.
There better not be any tire failures, the intermediate package should be used (the one used at Auto Club, Kansas, and Darlington), and no weather delays
I only watch road courses because Dinger, McDowell wins are fun. But Buscher and Haley are also comptetive there.
I hope that the race turns out to be enjoyable again. I’m going to be honest. With the new car I’m kind of interested to see how it handles the oval of the Brickyard. They’ve never ran the oval with this car so it will be intriguing. The road course was a failed experiment that never really went anywhere. Hopefully Sunday turns out to be a good race.
I’m a Harvick fan and even I forgot he won it that year, I was still under the assumption 2003 was his only Brickyard triumph
I've been watching Nascar since 2005 so I'm definitely on the older side of the fan base. I was against going to the road course from the beginning, I knew the racing wasn't great but the legacy of the Indy oval meant enough that I didn't like the idea (still don't).
Glad to see the OVAL is back.
My biggest issue with the Indy road course is the literally ran the race backwards…… with Charlotte and the Roval you still entered pit road at pit road entrance and exited pit road at pit road exit., same with the Daytona road course…… Indy road course you entered pit road around pit road exit and exited pit road around pit road entrance…… I almost forgot they only ran like half the race it was a 2XX mile race those are Xfinity number. No Cup points race should be under 300 whatever measurement…
Well to be fair, most NASCAR Cup Series road course races are under 300 miles.
As a matter of fact, a lot of road course races are actually measured in kilometers. For example, the Toyota Save/Mart 350 @ Sonoma Raceway is 350 kilometers; not miles. In miles, the race is actually 218 miles long. The Cheez-It 355 is also 355 kilometers; not miles. It's mileage distance is 220. The Bank of America Roval 400 is 400 kilometers long; not 400 miles.
However, there's no excuse for a Cup Series race on a road course to be as short as the Chicago Street Course was. And Indy's standard road course layout is usually clockwise as opposed to it being the usual counterclockwise run. Even still, I think the fact that almost every year the road course was a wreck fest shitshow fully justifies bringing back the Speedway.
@@nascarfanatic2425 it was literally the Verizon 200., and I do understand that most races aren’t miles many are laps or Km….
Reddick, Larson, Buescher, Hamlin and Truex at the top of the charts half way through.
Glad the brickyard is back, but road course racing is its own vid. The races need to emulate f1 to get the views when we turn right. Shorter races, less commercials. I’d get killed for this, but I think 7-8 road courses was awesome. These odd ovals can be fun, but imagine cup cars at a short bull ring road course, or all the series on the track at once. Would be epic. I think nascar made a fool of themselves in Chicago as f1 raced right into the rain without Jeff burton being really scared. Thanks for the vids!
Indiana my whole life, racing fan for a large portion. IMS is always a blast.
It’s gonna be awesome
How many people remember watching a Talladega race that went green flag to flag? No "Big one" no cautions, just three flags, green, white, and checkers.
I know it really isn’t possible and really complicated to
Figure out with setups at what not, but I would love an Indy double header. Road course on Saturday, oval Sunday 😂
2017 2018 2019 2020 was the best years for the brickyard
2017 and 2018 were classics.
There's a burger joint on isb in Daytona called brickyards. Best burger you'll ever eat.
I really liked the correlation back in the day where if you won the brickyard, you we going to win the championship. Only the best teams, with a few exceptions (PFM), won this race. That and the tracks legacy made it a crown jewel race. Glad to see it back. Still consider bristol night race a semi crown jewel
Awesome
I hope it's a good race! I was planning on going ever since I heard that Jimmie would be back. But I had to bail on that plan, but I hope to return to the brickyard in the next few years
I have never missed the Brickyard race...On TV
Why not limit the race to 33 cars?
Only NASCAR race I've been to in person was Brickyard 400 in 2001. Amazing time except that Jeff Gordon won.
New cars new drivers this is gonna be fun
I pray to god it isn't 2008 all over again
Well, today's economy says otherwise, and it contributed to that disaster of a race all those years back
It's not "okay at best". The racing there has always been great. The cream rises to the top.
Id say that Paul Menard is a bigger name for Indy than McMurray and Newman. Menard is an Indianapolis name
I hope you're right about the crowd interest. I was in turn 1 today and there was less than 250 there. I really thought more people would show up today
well i mean, people dont really show to practice
@peakracingassociation especially when there's barely any practice to start with
There will be a lot more on Sunday. Even Indy 500 practices aren't that busy.
@@TidesGate preach!!
Where's this OVAL at?! All I see is a rectangle...
Does anyone have experience with getting back and fourth between the track and the airport and how long it takes to do this after the races? My flight out is at 7 PM and I'm wondering if I should try to leave early just to ensure that I don't miss my plane.
finally!
I'm excited since it's the first NASCAR race I've been to in 12 years. Just want an exciting race and hoping none of the Penske cars win
today's xfinity race gives me some hope
I'm not Indianapolis Oval for NASCAR Fans I love Indianapolis Road Course for NASCAR and I like Indianapolis Oval for IndyCar because Indianapolis 500 and I love Indianapolis Road Course for IndyCar.
Im going to be skeptical about this race. This next gen car is super aero dependent, and combine that with Indy being a single lane race track the racing will be abysmal. Pocono was semi bearable because there are options drivers can take going in to the corner. Not so much Indy.
I would so go to Indy in person if I could actually see the whole track. The seating sucks.
Go to the kings royal today. Turn 1 is the best general admission seating. Larson will be running
Single file racing is gonna be great.
I cant wait for the checkered flag to be waived.
The Indy oval is absolutely legendary... No matter what series is running on it... I love the Brickyard... Tbh... It should be a 600.... Just to give it that "one-up" on the Indy 500... More eyes on NASCAR, the better...
With that
I'm looking forward to seeing Joey Logano lead as many laps as he did for the 2022 Championship race in Phoenix.❤💛
It will do well for a few years then people will lose interest in it again
Very stupid to conflict with all the racing at eldora. Like they aren't even aware it exists or something
More ovals i want more 1.5 mile and bigger ovals tired of more street courses and road courses cause they are no good its boring i mean the indy ovals had viewship down about 20% each year when it was run on it
@@Cloudy341blade skill issues
I would have gone if it wasn't one day after the kings royal like other people said
I love fuel mileage races anyway.
Let's not have a follow the leader race let's have some downforce in the cars let's have some horsepower I like to Old brickyard I like the old cars hopefully the race this week will be good but like this entire season I'm not holding my breath let's go Larson
NASCAR seems allergic to horsepower these days
The 2008 Brickyard 400 ruined this race for me. The tire fiasco, screwing Juan Pablo Montoya out of the win…it was terrible.
It’s gonna be pretty average, but if out of nowhere it’s gonna be awesome then I’ll be dammed.
I'm one of the few that enjoys watch road racing. All of NASCAR would benefit from getting rid of the stages, especially on RC races. The whole stage thing and playoffs is too stick and ball like. If the championship can be won mathematically 3 races before the final race then that's just racing. Having 4 drivers compete for a championship in the final race is a fluke
Daytona 👍
Unless the race is above average then I don’t see a reason to go to Indy ever again. The Brickyard 400 is a race to fall asleep to.
Yep they should just abandon Indy altogether if the race isn't good. IRP is waiting for them just down the road.
If the race sucks, IRP time.
Did you notice how packed the stands weren't? It's boring and downright bad racing. The stands tell you the truth.
Indy oval sucks. It is not a crown jewel for nascar. It is THE crown jewel for Indycar. This is not a special event for nascar.
Road course was fine. Oval sucks. People are weird about objectivity.
The road course sucked the Oval is not much better. They need to abandon Indy and go to IRP.
Not a crown jewel, never has been , never will be. Overhyped, boring ,no good for Nascar racecars. Ranks behind all tracks that ran Nascar before it did.
Indy Oval glazers are comical...
Truck race was better
IRP is always better
Your background music is very distracting and annoying.
It probably will be boring because of the gen 7
The same Gen 7 that provided hype racing at Auto Club, Chicago, Charlotte (last 2 years), Darlington, and Kansas. They just need to use the same package used in mentioned tracks for this
@@S.K.R.E.Inc. I like the gen 7 but we need more horse power
Gen 7 been good big tracks just mostly struggles on road courses and short tracks because it drives to well at them
@@S.K.R.E.Inc.pack racing doesn’t equal good racing
@@keeganracer8300Pocono wasn't good though an it also has long straightaways like Indy does. The Indy Oval might be in trouble.
Genuine question. Why are we calling it the brickyard 400 when it’s only 200 miles? It’s called the Verizon 200 I’m sure for a reason.
160 laps x 2 5 miles per lap = 400 miles
@@rodneyperry3124 so why are they calling it the 200 instead of the 160 or 400? Because calling it either the 160 (for lap number) or 400 (for miles). Where does 200 come from?
@@cpttankerjoe You're confusing the oval with the road course, Joe. 200 miles on the road course, 400 on the oval.
The Cup Series race this coming Sunday is called the Brickyard 400
Yup, just like the old days from 1994-2007
Its gonna suck, and only have 12k fans, The prestige is gone, its not close to be a crown jewel, keep it at the roadcourse were you can see passing.
Nope the oval is more iconic, the 2021 rc race was ruined by the curb failures! But honestly last years rc race was good!
They might get a decent crowd for year one, alot of pent up demand for the oval
I question whether or not it's going to have staying power
@miketwotwenty it wasn't really ruined nascar fans are just super whiney
@@Duff79agree 😂
road course races sucxxxxxxxxxx
As a lifetime NASCAR racer and fan, I want to say these cars are so ugly and the race car numbers should be in the middle of the door!
Nobody watches NASCAR anymore because these cars look so ridiculous.
Make them look more like a super late !