Looks like prototype, I do wonder what happens to those rare tractors just like AC 9000 it would made awesome tractor in the field. Interesting MF made combine here in Australia with Australian design thrashing but change there mind to Canadian design, the MF 3342 would had change the way we harvest. For International fans, Australia built 86 but with German engine which different tractor just Chamberlain had JD motor but this tractor was only for Australians. Definitely more brochures vids👍
Unfortunately the engineers that could probably tell you have already passed on. Would be cool to build one but then you have the flip side of ruining a 2255 to do it. Would also be cool to recreate the 2155 prototype with the herc. But you’re in the same boat. Have to kill a 2255 and a 2150 FWA to make it happen.
I have seen 1955 with a white cab any other 55 series with the white cab on maybe it's 2255 with the new tin work and cab on to build the 2-180 pre production model ?
There were some details I noticed on the two tractors. If you look the 2-150 and then go back to the supposed 2255, the two have a slightly different exhaust pipe. The air filters are also painted different colors. One is painted silver (2-150), and the other is black (2255).
Why are guys calling it a 2255 prototype? It was 1976; the 2255 was ending production not entering it. I'd call it a 2-180 prototype. Just because the inboard final drives aren't there yet doesn't mean they weren't coming. This appears to me as a 2-180 exercise. All the elements are there but the inboard final drives. This is a 2-180 prototype, not a 2255. It may very well be a 2255 dressed up, but it was dressed up to become the 2-180, not a new 2255. The other Field Bosses were already there and they knew they had a virtual boat anchor in the 2-150. It totally fell on its face in the Nebraska test, seizing up in only 10 hours. It grimly echoed of over-wrung 310's blowing up. They had to get away from that stigma and fast. The 2-150 was gratefully on its way out and the stellar 2-135 and 2-155 coming in, bringing back much of the successful 2050 and 2150 powertrain they had BLINDLY dropped for 1970. All the 2050 and 2150 needed was the updated platform and hydraulics to sit proudly at the top of the 55 Series as the PROPER 2055 and 2155. The 2255 worked out well and just needed to be updated to become the 2-180. All their best older top of the line tractors were going to be under new sheet metal now: the 2050, 2150, and 2255. The MM powered 2055, 2155, 1355, 2270, and 2-150 just should have never been. They were just appeasing the MM brass and maybe faithful to keep that market share but the 585 was just never up to snuff with the Hercules 478. It should have been the PROPER 2055, 2155, and the 2255. Then a MUCH smoother transition to the 2-135, 2-155, and 2-180, which we are seeing happen right here.
I just watched a video of a guy touring the tractor collection of the Tractor Doctor in Wisconsin. I saw two White 2255 tractors in the collection. I sure would like to learn the history on those tractors.
@@GMdieselman The video is on a channel called Gierok Farm. The one was grey with a white style cab numbered 2255. The other was red with maybe an oliver cab marked White 2255. Really interesting.
I didn't think the squares showed till late series 2? Not sure. Both of our 135 and 155 were round. But series 3 they were integrated into the cab like the workhorse series right?
Early Series 3’s had flashers that mounted in the same spot as earlier models, but they had a flexible base so they could bend out of the way for tree branches. My 1982 2-110 had them on it, but they were broke. It was a year or so in production when they switched to the newer style plastic roof with the flashers integrated in the roof at the front and back. I’m gonna have to look for those square flashers in other brochures to see what else used them.
I don’t think I can make it, started a new job and can’t take time off yet. I had talked with Midwest Allis about me not making it. Maybe Jordan and I will make a special trip up there some Saturday
There three white tractor that had a Caterpillar 3208 engines and they were the white 4-210 and the 2-180 and the 4-150 and the 4-225 and the 4-175 that was all of the white farm tractor's that had caterpillar 3208 V8 engines
Wow! Great eye for detail! I'm surprised someone hasn't recreated one. I've got some company slides I'll have to double check now.
I have a 2-180 here now working on the AC. 3208 is interesting but not my favorite. The outboard planetary is different looking.
Looks like prototype, I do wonder what happens to those rare tractors just like AC 9000 it would made awesome tractor in the field. Interesting MF made combine here in Australia with Australian design thrashing but change there mind to Canadian design, the MF 3342 would had change the way we harvest. For International fans, Australia built 86 but with German engine which different tractor just Chamberlain had JD motor but this tractor was only for Australians. Definitely more brochures vids👍
Unfortunately the engineers that could probably tell you have already passed on. Would be cool to build one but then you have the flip side of ruining a 2255 to do it. Would also be cool to recreate the 2155 prototype with the herc. But you’re in the same boat. Have to kill a 2255 and a 2150 FWA to make it happen.
That’s so very true, I love the ideas of making a prototype like that, but can’t bring myself to tear down any real Charles City originals.
I have seen 1955 with a white cab any other 55 series with the white cab on maybe it's 2255 with the new tin work and cab on to build the 2-180 pre production model ?
Very interesting video! I also have the 76 buyers guide and had wondered about the air cleaner behind the muffler.
Probably the 2 -180 prototype
There were some details I noticed on the two tractors. If you look the 2-150 and then go back to the supposed 2255, the two have a slightly different exhaust pipe. The air filters are also painted different colors. One is painted silver (2-150), and the other is black (2255).
Why are guys calling it a 2255 prototype? It was 1976; the 2255 was ending production not entering it. I'd call it a 2-180 prototype. Just because the inboard final drives aren't there yet doesn't mean they weren't coming. This appears to me as a 2-180 exercise. All the elements are there but the inboard final drives. This is a 2-180 prototype, not a 2255. It may very well be a 2255 dressed up, but it was dressed up to become the 2-180, not a new 2255.
The other Field Bosses were already there and they knew they had a virtual boat anchor in the 2-150. It totally fell on its face in the Nebraska test, seizing up in only 10 hours. It grimly echoed of over-wrung 310's blowing up. They had to get away from that stigma and fast.
The 2-150 was gratefully on its way out and the stellar 2-135 and 2-155 coming in, bringing back much of the successful 2050 and 2150 powertrain they had BLINDLY dropped for 1970. All the 2050 and 2150 needed was the updated platform and hydraulics to sit proudly at the top of the 55 Series as the PROPER 2055 and 2155.
The 2255 worked out well and just needed to be updated to become the 2-180. All their best older top of the line tractors were going to be under new sheet metal now: the 2050, 2150, and 2255.
The MM powered 2055, 2155, 1355, 2270, and 2-150 just should have never been. They were just appeasing the MM brass and maybe faithful to keep that market share but the 585 was just never up to snuff with the Hercules 478. It should have been the PROPER 2055, 2155, and the 2255. Then a MUCH smoother transition to the 2-135, 2-155, and 2-180, which we are seeing happen right here.
That isn't a cab filter that's the cab condenser because they weren't in front of radiator that's an early series cab that is a 2-!80 prototype
It could be a Oliver they put-together and painted for the brochure.
Curiouser and curiouser 🤔🤔
I just watched a video of a guy touring the tractor collection of the Tractor Doctor in Wisconsin. I saw two White 2255 tractors in the collection. I sure would like to learn the history on those tractors.
Were they the red colored ones?
@@GMdieselman The video is on a channel called Gierok Farm. The one was grey with a white style cab numbered 2255. The other was red with maybe an oliver cab marked White 2255. Really interesting.
Check the flasher shape on that tractor....they are square vs round on the 2-150.
That is another feature I didn’t notice. What other models used that square type flasher?
I didn't think the squares showed till late series 2? Not sure. Both of our 135 and 155 were round. But series 3 they were integrated into the cab like the workhorse series right?
Early Series 3’s had flashers that mounted in the same spot as earlier models, but they had a flexible base so they could bend out of the way for tree branches. My 1982 2-110 had them on it, but they were broke. It was a year or so in production when they switched to the newer style plastic roof with the flashers integrated in the roof at the front and back. I’m gonna have to look for those square flashers in other brochures to see what else used them.
How about an Oliver 2465 or 2665 in the early to mid 1970s? In Oliver Green and similar to the MM or White Plainsman.
Are you coming up?!
I don’t think I can make it, started a new job and can’t take time off yet. I had talked with Midwest Allis about me not making it. Maybe Jordan and I will make a special trip up there some Saturday
Sad.
Where you working?
@@jonstevensmaplegrovefarms3754 I got a job at a factory that builds electric motors for ponds, like aerators and de-icers.
There three white tractor that had a Caterpillar 3208 engines and they were the white 4-210 and the 2-180 and the 4-150 and the 4-225 and the 4-175 that was all of the white farm tractor's that had caterpillar 3208 V8 engines
You forgot the 4-180.