The Future Of Benedict Bridgerton
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- Опубліковано 4 лип 2024
- To Benophie? Or To Benophus? That is the question.
It’s safe to say that making Benedict bisexual has thrown somewhat of a spanner in the works for the future Benedict storyline. Whilst it’s great for inclusion and the storyline base had its merits I’m starting to wonder whether this is going to work out well. So that’s what I’m here discussing today. Whether a gender swap would be a good idea? Or how the story would look upon reflection if they stick to the status quo. Enjoy. - Розваги
I feel like we didn’t need so much of Benedict in penelope and Colin’s season
Tbf there has been focus on different bridgerton siblings in seasons that weren't theirs. (Ex- Anthony in season 1, Eloise in seaspn 2 etc)
I wouldn’t have minded the Benedict if they had given him an actual story
Benedict had a bigger storyline in Season 1 and 2. Anthony had a bigger storyline in Season 1 to prepare for his season. As it is now I dont feel Benedict is really ready for his season even though it is next.
And when we did , he was having sex with everyone 😂😂😂😂 smh
@@mrspremingerThis! He really did nothing this season.
Instead of Lady Tilley Arnold they should’ve given Benedict a male love interest from the beginning of season 3 so that he could has his bisexuality developed throughout the whole season. Also they should’ve executed his storyline of feeling lost (bc he lost his passion for art) much much better and clearer. There weren’t even like a handful of actual good moments (like the dinner scene, and his conversation with Paul could’ve had so much potential of Benedict opening up)
They ALMOST went for it with his mentor being gay, and I feel like they could have made more of that in S1, because he was more intrigued than repulsed when he walked in on him. It wasn't as much of a surprise for me, because I remembered that scene. They just should have done something else in S2, to move his journey on
We should’ve seen Benedict ease his way into the art world. That would’ve been the perfect place to meet Mr. Suarez.
@@BellesView Before I watched the actual post-dinner episode, I read a "spoiler" online saying that Tilly and Mr Blue Eyes end up in a triad where they help Ben reignite his passion for art and I was so hype for it. I was so disappointed when I ended up watching the following episodes and all that happened were a bunch of threesomes - I rewatched all Ben's scenes thinking I''d missed this great piece of character progression but nope. Crazy that a troll comment ended up having a more interesting and impactful plotline than the actual show.
@@kikidevine694agreed
I feel like they could handle his character by making Sophie disguised as a servant boy that Benedict is interested in. For him the gender is confusing at first but he quickly realises he doesn't care and pursues Sophie as a man until she's revealed to be a woman and he is grappling with the fact that such an intimate and (in this society) shameful thing was exposed. Even though he still ends up with a woman, he can also tell Sophie that his attraction to her was beyond gender and was about her as a person hence his bisexuality
I did some people say the "Mulan" storyline would suit Ben a bit better than Cinderella but I aint opposed!
I know most watchers haven’t read the books, but Sophie wears a gown for a reason. It’s her first time being all dressed up in her life, something never afforded to her as a servant. She’s able to have what’s noted in the book as the only good day in her life. Dressing up as a servant boy completely axes the importance of her going to the ball in the first place. Also they dance together in Sophie’s first dance ever, which two men cannot do on the dance floor. It really strips the “Cinderella” of it all
@@erinandthe1580 Maybe they could find a way to intertwine it? The first meeting is her as a woman in the ballgown then they meet consistently as the servant boy that Benedict feels strangely drawn to. It'll be fun watching his conflicting emotions and the slow realisation that the two people he feels trapped between are the same one?
@@tomatosoup1304 yea I just wish they’d explored Benedict’s sexuality before his season more instead of two episodes before. If his coupling is with a woman, they should’ve fleshed out the means of Benedict’s bi/pan identity beforehand, so maybe Sophie doesn’t have to cross dress in the show to represent that. I like their book and would love to see it properly adapted as close as they can to the source material
@erinandthe1580 she can still go to the ball in a gown and be disguised as a servant boy later. When he meets her again he doesn't connect the two and was attracted to the two separately. It would help explain him not making the connection as well.
Unlike the other brothers, we don’t see Benedict paying for sex. He seems to genuinely like the women he pursues. And the season 1 gay plot with Granville challenged him to recognize how serious a same sex relationship was, where it could cost someone everything just to be with the person they love. So I don’t quite know what to do with this new Benny (at the end of the season) who just wants to pursue sex for the pleasure of it all like some randy frat guy. Big turn off for me when I had thought him quite a romantic.
I thought that set up was somfake, likem"we have to hide who we are, who we love, as aaall this people are around,them at the "party", as easy as just open the unlocked door and see them, and anyone could have rattlemthem to the authorities.
also, see the Gilded Age for a more real story, a homosexual man seeking out a marriage because of money and his partner, who wants tomlike a quiet life without betraying who he is.
Yeah, it feels like cheap rep for poly/bi men when it really just comes off as a man getting what he normally gets in life anyway, a bunch of frivolous sex with no consequences
@Ellicel Excellent comment. Couldn’t have expressed it better myself.
I wish they had Benedict actively be the head of the household while Antony was away instead of whatever we had this season. Since we know he already did that off screen and seemingly even missed it, because it gave him purpose. It would make much more sense than just have Antony missing for most of the season. Plus they could still have sex scenes with Benedict and even make him enamoured with someone (a guy for example in order to keep the queer storyline). And by the end he could realise that those duties aren't enough to actually make him happy, even if he can play the role that isn't his purpose. And what's more, being in such proximity with Antony and Kate, and after a breakup it would put him in the pathway to start looking for a real partner and his life's goal. It would probably be a very condensed storyline, but it could be done and would be much more interesting to watch in my opinion.
I mean, imagine, it's the begging of the season, Anthony isn't back yet from his honeymoon and Benedict is replacing him. He attends an event in his stead where he unintentionally begins to contemplate a painting or some other art object. A man approaches him and they begin to talk, he could be the author or just an artist. They have a little nice conversation and the guy invites Benedict to spent some time with him, but Benedict refuses because he is avoiding art since he left his studies. When Anthony comes back Benedict is left without a purpose and ends up reconnecting with that guy, and even though he is reluctant to participate in actual art making and wants to at most just be a friendly observer, he is being drawn to that world and to that guy. When Anthony leaves once again, Benedict steps up and has to fullfil his duties, which at the time he thinks is the best thing to do only to realize that despite being competent enough something is missing. He ends up going after his new friend and due to certain circumstances is lead to believe that the guy is getting intimate with someone else, only to find out that he is not. This event makes him somewhat uncomfortable and he "runs away". Until he finds something, a note/drawing/painting... something that finally makes him go back and get together with that guy. They have a blissful period together, until his love interest declares that he is moving away due to an opportunity that Benedict would've had if he hadn't dropped out. And when he is left alone with all those feelings he finally paints for the first time in months. He is broken and alone, but he knows that art despite of it all is his fate. However, despite of it he is not ready just yet and seemly goes back to his duke's replacement routine since Anthony is leaving to India.
Yes! We should’ve saw Benedict watch after Francesca on the marriage mart. I was pissed he wasn’t there when Lord Kilmartin and Marques Samadani called on Francesca. Instead he called on pointless Tilly to hook up 😒
@@BellesView Yes. The writing was all over the place this season. We know how people are supposed to act in society, their roles. Benedict never acts like the head of the house in Anthony's absence. KIlmarting showing up to the Bridgerton house without ever having an actual introduction would have been unthinkable on season one. Nor the random discovery of who was the visitor as they entered the room. That truly annoyed me every time it happened.
@@gabbodelaparrawrites There’s a lot of inconsistencies. His storyline doesn’t make me excited for a Benedict-centric season. He has no purpose and lacks responsibility.
@@BellesView Absolutely. That's why I think they gonna do a three-way season with Benedict, Eloise, and Francesca, just to get them all out of the way. 🤪 They seemed to be prepping up Hyacinth and Gregory to finish with five seasons in a dual sibling storyline.
I feel that Benedict's character, extended to his sexuality, was handled painfully clumsily. So appreciative for this video.
They just threw it in at season’s end when it could’ve been more meaningful.
This is only a theory but I feel like they made it a three-way thing with Benedict so they could have fanservice and also get brownie points being progressive. Don’t get why Benedict couldn’t have had a male love interest this season because he would still be bisexual. I also really love Benedict’s character and I’m upset he’s getting wasted by just being used as fanservice
It's kinda crazy to think that all of Ben's possible bisexual male interests in this show have been threesomes. In contrast with how he interacts with women, there's no romances, no relationships or entanglements with men, just very abruptly presented threesomes.
I’ve only read Romancing Mr. Bridgerton but it was weird to me that they got rid of the art storyline for Benedict because he’s an accomplished artist in the book series. I think he has a painting, or paintings, hanging in a gallery. Benedict’s success as an artist is part of what makes Colin feel insecure about himself. Maybe they’ll flip that storyline and have Benedict go back to art because he feels insecure about Colin’s success as an author.
As some who loves the books, my problem with the big changes is that it feels like the writers are breaking a social contract. They opted to adapt a popular book series because they knew they would have a built in fan base to make them a crap load of money (which we did). In my opinion it is their responsibility to to adapt the story with a certain degree of fidelity. I don't mind the expansion of the universe/ new characters, or even messing with minor side characters (but enough of the Mondrich family- stop trying to make "fetch" happen!). However, you should stay true to the core character's personalities, traits, and major story arcs. If you want to write original content, then give it an original name and don't set us up for disappointment.
Yes but then again, would you rather have nothing? It is sad ofcourse in some ways, but what they have given us is extremely beautiful in itself -Even though it might not be exactly like the books.
Agreed!!
@@mendy4788 "Would you rather have nothing" YES, actually. Why waste our time and spit on the source material?
You put exactly into words what I've been thinking the entire time, including your comment about the Mondrichs 😃
Why adapting a book series when they end up changing so much of the major plot? Do they really like the source material? Or was it just for a quick cash grab - I agree with you here.
@@IceQueen975No one's forcing you to watch. To want something to not exist cause you don't like it, is extremely juvenile.
Honestly, Benedict and Eloise as they are in the show are the two Bridgerton siblings that work best for a queer relationship instead of Francesca. It would fix Eloise's story so much if she fell in love with a widow instead of a widower. Eloise being as she is, and married to the world's dullest man just doesn't make sense, unless they are going for opposite attract, but he's just so lame. Anyhow, hopefully, they do a great job with Fran and Michaella and they change showrunners again because this new one messed up season 3 big time.. honestly by the end I was more interested in Fran and John, and in what happened to Cressida than I was in the so-called primary couple.
I wouldn't even mind if they kept John and Fran together and tackled fertility and made Eloise end up with Michaela at this point. The story is already super different might as well change everything else too
I'm hoping what they do with Francesca is do a split attraction model, where she ends up with Michaela, as a sexual attraction, but romantic attraction to John. with a slower romantic attraction to Michaela later. The fertility issues still can be present with her finally conceiving after all of that time, but then John falling sick later per the books.
Why does everyone need the butch girl to be a lesbian? It's just veiled bigotry
@@kimyoonmisurnamefirst7061 I was thinking the same thing when I finished watching season three, about the infertility. If Francesca spends the whole time she's married to John unable to take a pregnancy to term and then it's finally working, and it seems pretty certain she'll have the baby, and she's pretty close to giving birth and then John dies without even being able to meet his child, this would bring a whole new layer to the story. Where Michaela and Fran feel so damn guilty about John's child (most likely a son) being parented not by the man who so wished for him, but by his cousin... doesn't matter that it's a female cousin. I think this would work. And maybe Michaela wanting Fran, and then John dying would make her feel like her feelings manifested themselves into reality and somehow cost John his life, even though that would make no sense guilt will make us believe many things... especially if it's about someone we loved dearly, as is the case of Michael/Michaela and John.
@@snoopygonewilder The heir can be also female, given Scotland's rules at the time, too. Driving her to the marriage market, but she is surprised to find love with Michaela. The progenitor rules didn't change for Scotland untl later. But yes, the way you described it is entirely a possible storyline.
I'm an unrepentant book purist and I think they should not be changing much. One of the only things I would of changed (but they didn't) was the controversial Daphne and Simon scene when she found out the truth about him "not being able to have children."
I love Benedict and I wanted him the way he was written. As an artist myself, he just spoke to me. (Although he doesn't paint as much in the books as I'd like.) But this TV version of Benedict (at least in this season) felt off.
I suppose you can't make all the fans happy when you adapt books, but it feels like in the last few years no one even tries....
I really appreciate you take, you made it clear that you don't think "Oh it invalidates his bisexuality if he gets with a girl" because I've seen many people have that thought process. I agree completely with the weird feeling of the story in season 3 felt fetishy
You've hit the nail on the head about bi representation pitfalls in Bridgerton. As a queer person, I just wanted so much more from Benedict. The way his sexuality was handled felt like a last minute decision rather than something that was planned.
As for fans wanting a bittersweet ending for some of the characters - and I haven't read the books myself but from what I've heard, Francesca would have been perfect for that as her book storyline is about finding the great love of her life then having him die and she chooses her next marriage more based on the practicality of it rather than full on love. There's so much drama and angst built into Fran's story already, I think picking her story specifically to genderbend was always going to be met with ire regardless of if they pull it off smoothly or not.
Now Eloise on the other hand - Omg I was so ready for gay Eloise and her genderbent lovestory. Eloise story (as a lifelong romance reader) is such a boring trope (young women in need of work meets rich widower with a bunch of kids and becomes their stand-in mother and becomes such indispensable support for the male lead to the point where he just has to marry her) that it was just begging to be subverted. Imagine how awesome it would have been for Eloise to meet a widowed working woman who she can admire because she, the love interest, goes against the grain and Eloise realises through seeing how she lives that she doesn't hate domesticity or marriage but just the enforced heteronormative roles that were always expected of her but now that she's met a woman who is doing everything she ever dreamed off plus has a family life, it makes Eloise realise that she can buck those expectations and "have it all" at the same time. Damn, thinking about it makes me want to go write it myself.
Something that no one seems to talk about regarding Benedict’s season, is the instagram post that reveled that Cressida Cowper’s mother’s first name is Araminta. That’s the name of Sophie’s stepmother! So it’s possible Sophie will be integrated into the Cowper family, making her Cressida’s half sister. Again this could be wrong but I’m surprised more people aren’t talking about it
I've seen people being shush about this out of not wanting to spoil things for the non book-reading viewers, but I totally agree with this theory. Why would they waste time and viewer attention on introducing a shallow and rich mother-daughter duo when they already have Cressida and her mother (even tho Cressida is no longer as shallow as we used to think before this season). If this ends up being the case we could add the younger nicer step-sister (I am so sorry that I completely forgot her name) to the "younger sisters that were completely cut out of the show" list, because as far as I am aware, Cressida hasn't been shown to have a younger less successful sister
@@fruity4820Posy. RIP Posy and Felicity.
This is all over IG comments and the fan theories behind it. Do you mean a UA-camr reviewers are not commenting about it?
@@Amber86queenbee Yeah I meant UA-cam I'll have to check out those other sites
Step sister , the sisters were Sophie's step sisters not half sisters hence the treating Sophie like a servant
They approached his bisexuality the wrong way. The reason it felt icky is what every bi-woman has to deal with the fantasization of being bisexual. Instead of exploring different relationships it showed the empty and hollow part. I also think they were trying to explore different kind of relationship which is being in a poly relationship but probably relationship isn't all about sex. I meant rather they have stuck to one topic for that character. Let him figure out his sexuality instead of having him have three ways just because he's bisexual. that's fetusization.
Majorly agree with how not having him end up with a guy is going to make it seem like his bisextuality was purly kinks, no substence. I dont know how they could write themselves out of this corner.
I also feel compaled to say that real bi people end marrying in hetero relationships all the times, and it doesnt mean they stop being bi after that, being bi isnt messured by how many relationships you had with people of your gender and how many you had with people not of your gender. but when a fictinal charcater, on a screan that traditionally dislikes having same-sex couple on it, also end up in a hetero relatioship, after only showing a shallow intrest in people of his own gender, i am starting to suspect an agenda
The way to fix this season in general is to let it develop more naturally with more time and steam. The writers seemed to hear the criticism of season 2's lack of spice and overcorrect without realizing that the audience did not want spicey content without the feelings that led up to it.
Bingo! We want build up and lots of payoff. The spice isn’t nearly as good without the feelings and yearning.
Agree! Also it’s knowing the story. Season 1 was a lot of sexual scenes and tension because Daphne was discovering her sexuality and womanhood as a new bride/wife. Season 2 is Enemies to Lovers and almost of a forbidden love so the storyline was a slow burn. I agree that the writers overcorrected in Season 3. In my opinion we needed more depth and time with Polin. I think the Benedict storyline was too clumsy. Actors did what they could with what they had. I hope they take a long look at what worked in 1 and 2 and Queen Charlotte and apply that in 4. Season 3 had moments but for me it was an overall miss when it comes to the Season where Lady Whistledown is unveiled.
Instead of gender-bending Sophie, could it not be equally engaging to make her bi as well? Have Benedict's story be about finding someone that understands/ shares his orientation...
I am so mixed with this show runner.
I get adding more representation, but the way the show runner is going about it, she is not focusing on the other characters, just the ones she likes which you can’t do in an ensemble show.
She also knows there is only eight episodes, but still insists on cramming 11 stories in them.
She may be getting over eager or excited and I get that, but she needs to slow down and dedicate time to the main couple and maybe two or three side plots.
Julia Quinn and fans want the spirit of the story to be there, but this season proved the opposite with some of the changes.
It completely missed the mark on Polin’s story. If they just focused on the emotional beats in the other half of the book, it would resolve every issue Polin fans have.
Colin wasn’t this angsty and he never stopped talking to Penelope. They had their happy moments in between some of their arguments. And he was by her side with the LW reveal.
I get girl empowerment, but that was pandering as f too.
Everything felt like an agenda instead of what Bridgerton started as, a romance show.
I think Benny boy was used as eye candy to limit intimate scenes between Pen and Colin because the show runner wasn’t comfortable with them. The quick cuts to him/Tilly/Paul in part two were jarring and gratuitous.
You are the first to suggest something like this. I thought and still think the same thing. This is a new showrunner, and I think she has issues with hetero centered romances. I also think she doesn't respect men, very much.
@@gems3604 this right here. they destroyed colin.
@@dunadanfer Yes, they did. He was weird. Benedict was weird. All very sad.
I fast-forwarded all of Benedict's part two scenes. I just wasn't interested and there was no emotion in it. Gratuitous is the right word.
@@racheltheradiant4675 Yup. I did the same thing. But there are a lot of people who applaud loudly and cry: "More! More!" and Netflix listens.
I agree. Some of their changes don't make sense. I would've believed Eloise going bi or lesbian before her sister also.
Aside from romance Benedict arc in the books was him finding confidence in becoming an artiest, the last two arcs in the show tied into that but for season 3 we got nothing! Before the second half I was hoping h the relationship with Tilly would make him start wanting something real in a relationship but instead it feels like filler because the writers didn’t know what to do with him. I still want him to end up with Sophie but like the video says it makes the threeway feel like shallow pandering if he doesn’t end up with a man
Yes! this same UA-camr made a video earlier and mentioned it would have made more sense if Ben had fallen for Paul (or even Tilly) and been rejected instead of the other way around. I honestly even would have liked to see Paul fall for Ben and Ben have to face that. They chose the worst option!
The 3-way with Benedict turned me off to both him and Season 4. I too liked Brimsley and Reynolds. I hope we see more of Polin because they were short-changed in Season 3.
I'm not coming back for season 4. Bad writing does not engender loyalty.
Everyday I wonder what will happen to Benedict and Fran 😭
Thank you for this. I feel making him bi was confused and as you say just for the sake of satisfying some viewers comments. It really didn't go anywhere. No emotional connection, unsatisfying and temporary and added nothing to Benedict's arc. They definitely should explore his artistic talent.This had been part of his life it seemed for years and to just cut it dead in season 3 made no sense unless they intend to reveal that he has continued his artistic passion in private in the next season, afraid to show such an important part of himself again in case he gets hurt.
Personally I really don't think they have to make all the brothers such rakes. At least they showed that Anthony was capable of forming an emotional connection with his mistress, even if it was in a juvenile way. Benedict is shown as caring and empathetic towards family and friends but not to his sexual partners. They are presented as being there for his sexual gratification. No depth or meaning and totally interchangeable. All rather tasteless and meaningless. Benedict, the character and Luke Thompson, the actor, deserve so much more. Let us hope the writers sort themselves out and save the situation.
Even if Benedict is losing his passion for art, they could have explored that more. Show him attempting to paint but getting artist's block/not liking anything he paints and throwing the canvases out, feeling guilty for letting his art supplies collect dust, etc.
You said a lot of my thoughts.
First, sophus is a bad idea. The fans prefer Scott or Stephen.
Joking aside, many fans and the previous two seasons showed Benedict doing emotional labor for his family and being a romantic. I feel that was lost this season. I personally feel that Benedict is being used as a sex doll this season. He deserves more than that.
Keeping Paul and Tilly in my mind, I would have rewrote it as Paul being with Tilly from the get go in part 1 from the get go. He can first be intrigued by Tilly and as she makes her speech in the middle of the tent, Paul says intelligent and artistic things that make Ben’s ears perk up too.
They hang out more as a group and because Paul is the artist, we can have him observe more of Ben’s aimlessness and loss of passion for art.
I would also love for Benedict to run into an art school student from last season and have him/her try to tell him they did like him and thought he was talented and to not focus on Anthony paying his way in, but Ben not believing him/her.
This way, the storyline is more cohesive, we see a positive representation of polyamory and/or bisexuality, and we keep his artistic/romantic side at the same time.
It is clear the showrunners have an agenda. The number of people I see complaining that there are too many "straight couples" tells you everything you need to know about the agenda. The problem is however, when you try to please "everyone" -- that is everyone except the diehard book fans- then you please no one. The showrunner(s) pretty much admitted that "people" (whoever they are) respond well to Benedict's amorphous sexuality and want to keep vague for a while. Why? This is just getting so far away from romance and some semblance of historicity and the character arcs from the source material. What was the point of changing Benedict's character? Just to check the D&I box? By the time they get around to Benedict's story, (if they even bother), no one will care
I clicked on this video so fast! As soon as I saw the title I had a pretty good feeling were it was going to go, because I've been thinking the same. I see some fans holding to the idea that he'll meet Sophia (as a female) in season 3 and just go on with his story much like the book. I think the writers have strayed too far to just go back to the status quo now. But since his bi-sexual awakening was handled as pure sexual sensation, mostly pushed by his female lover rather than led by Benedict developing feelings for a man, having him fall in love with a male character (Sophus) feels cheapened and unearned. If season 3 had him fooling around with Lady Arnold (a purely physical relationship and what he's used to) while simultaneously developing feelings for a fellow male artist who understands Benedict on a level his female lovers never have, that would had added amazing tension and conflict as Benedict struggles to accept his bi-sexuality. (And if this man had been the one to reject Benedict, maybe sensing that Benny Boy isn't ready to fully accept who he is, or something, that at least would have made Benedict's sadness at the end of S3 make sense! And set him up for finding his end-game love in a future season.) But no, his storyline was played for cheap thrills and shock value. I don't care if his love interest if male or female, but at this point I have a hard time believing the writers will pull off a convincing love story either way. 😒
Yes. We may all have our different preferences for romantic fantasy, but we can all agree the first priority is quality. The homophobic backlash against The Last of Us’s insanely romantic gay love story was drowned out by the outpouring of love for how well written, performed, compelling, and tastefully done it was. Same with Buffy the Vampire Slayer’s first TV lesbian kiss decades ago. Bridgerton isn’t just disappointing book purists, it’s disappointing everybody.
this comment wraps up all my thoughts properly, they’re not doing ANYTHING right, queer or not
Your idea for Benny's arc in S3 makes much more sense. The bi polyamory storyline was fun but handled clumsily and played into stereotypes about bisexual people, I honestly don't know if they'll even mention it again in his season (if they do actually adapt the book not just do a fanfic), maybe it was just a box tick and eye candy. Ben is my favourite character and I was disappointed this time, so they BETTER give him a great story in his own season.
I think Benedict started wanting more with his lady, but she was just interest in a third for the sexy fun. And the irony of trying to get him to accept that he also likes guys, pales in comparison to him being in a two plus relationship. His struggle for this, then being overcome, made everyone happier, and in paraphrasing his words, opened a new world for him. And from her ironic twist is that she only wanted more when she realized she didn't want to share him.
He is now seeing the world with new eyes, and open to much more than the previous, socially constructed restrictions that he relied on. He had struggle, and he went from a safe,accepted form of longing, to a much more open, accepting, and even rebelious outlook on love. Just like many of the other Bridgertons.
It will take someone extraordinary to shift this any time soon. Male or female.
The swing scene with Eloise may be precient, where they both fall deeply for a same sex partner, and then sit on the swings to be completely confused together. Perhaps the next season will be for them both. We did get two this season after all. And it would give the remaining two younger siblings at least another season to grow into a more acceptable age to address romance.
S4 of bridgerton: the gay season. Perhaps.
Maybe Benedict goes to visit Scotland, and helps Eloise come to grips with her burgeoning feelings for a girl, even if he goes for a girl too, and this is just laying groundwork for him to show Eloise support?
If you think of this as foreshadowing, and pre-character development, instead of a halfway finished tale, it's a better reflection of the way the show has been made. After all, the Whistledown revelations have been made, and there has to be drama and conflict and struggle beyond that now.
I imagine the next season will have broader locales from Scotland to India. But even if I am offbase, i still think you missed a bit of the writers intent, and i trust that they willmake a story worth watching.
I have heard that Benedict book is kind of like a Cinderella story with a relative of Cressida that is hidden away that sneaks out to the masquerade. One interesting thing they could do next season to give Benedict budding sexuality more meaning would be that they could have that relative be born male but the attend the masquerade dress as a woman, because that is their preferred dress, and runs into Benedict who is captivated by them. They could even make it a fake “love triangle” where he comes in into contact with them in male and female form and fall in love. When Benedict discovers that They were born male (or that they are the same person) they could decide to get married with his partner passing as female and live out their happily ever after.
I would love to watch this!
Obviously without all the children Benedict and Sophie have!!!!????
@@micheledix2616 Yes, but that is a very minor difference that doesn’t effect the story
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In the book Benedict is kind of awful to Sophie. He wants her to be his mistress because she’s illegitimate and they don’t know who her parents are so he can’t marry her because of the scandal.
I could see them scrapping that storyline and making the main conflict be that he’s bi and/or poly. So his hesitance to settle down with Sophie (or Sophus lol) for that reason. Which is far less misogynistic. And then they could resolve it somehow. Just please God not some season long secret hanging over our heads and giving everyone anxiety until the last half of the last episode because we have Been There and it is not enjoyable.
Tbf, he originally wants her to be his mistress because he believes she's a maid (and she doesn't correct him) and that's the reason why he cannot marry her. When he finds out that she's the illegitimate daughter of an earl, he is unsure at first, but decides to marry her and except the slight scrutiny that they will experience in the ton. He's on his way to ask her when he finally realises that she was his Mystery Lady and she didn't tell him, so he gets angry at her and doesn't ask her to marry him.
@@awsome182 yeah…it’s still icky.
@@melody_shmelody I never said it wasn't, but it still changes the dynamics between them. And if you're explaining your dislike for his character by using book references, I feel like you should be accurate to the plot. I'm not defending him at all, and his book is one of my least favourite in the series (book one and three are the weakest in my opinion), but he simply believes she's a maid and hence cannot marry her. That is a difference.
@@awsome182 spot on 👍
Yeah, I actually think gender-swapping Sophie keeps the core of the relationship conflict (society won't accept them openly together, but the under the table relationship society will accept isn't enough for S) and Benedict and Sophie's book ending could pretty much work for a same sex couple minus a legal wedding, but actually makes a lot of the book's story more interesting, more distinct from previous seasons, and less problematic. I just wish they hadn't genderswapped Michael. because that change is NONE of those things, but I feel like they've "poisoned the well" and turned the fans against the concept of genderswapping the love interests.
Your idea actually makes sense, but for that to happen, they (by they I mean the writers who I presume not many if any are queer) need to start seeing queer relationships same as they see straight relationships and not just as smexual relationships which they think they are. Which is why we got what we got. I'm pretty sure this will go nowhere in next season and we'll get Sophie and move on from that like it never happened. But I want them to move away from book Benedict cause book Benedict SUCKS so hard
I too am a filthy casual. I am here for the Regency vibe. I am beginning to realise I hate and or am not at all interested in the actual Bridgerton siblings.
Eloise, Benedict and Francesca represent /showcase particular personalities Independent and progressive, open and principled, introverted (autistic)and confident but it feels like social agendas are hijaking their characters which is why its weird and choppy. That's what the bookies don't like.
I think it's going to be somewhat similar to the books.
He's going to meet his muse but doesn't know who it is. He's going to inspire him to go back into painting, again, but this time anonymously.
He is going to have a hire maybe an assistant who he feels is a great attraction to, and gives a similar vibe to his muse but she was a female.
The assistant is actually Sophie dressed as a man.
Benedict is my favourite. However in Season 3 I don’t think they knew what to do with him. They just threw him into a threesome. It was kind of bad writing on the writers part, and didn’t really develop his story which was poorly written.
I care less about Ben and, maybe, Eloise going bender, but to take away from Colins development time that was needed and destroying Fran&John's love story just to fit in more sex scenes? It is no longer even a time period piece that makes sense when they act like it is not 'representation' unless it gives 2-3 of the 7 for 'representation'
It should’ve been Eloise and Cressida. Not Benedict.
👏 that I could have rooted for!
Benedict now gives me the ick. I feel like he needs to get checked for STIs 😅 I love the actor, he makes me chuckle big time. It also seems we now have 3 seasons of same sex relationships going to take place because that’s what’s been teased.
I agree with you completely. Very good review.
I agree with you about there being no point to his story line, and basically the show runner did the same thing with Francesca. It had nothing to do with Inclusion, or acceptance. It had everything to do with her ego, and pointing the bird finger to 19'th/21'st century society, saying wahoo look what I can do. Truthfully, I have found some gay people less likely to be accepting of others, and of themself's. Benedict, and Fran's books were probably my 2 favorite's but I'm not looking forward to their seasons now, just because of the show runner's choices.
I felt like Benidict’s arc of having a freer view of people and convention in terms of gender also leads into the class perspective for his own season.
I don’t see how they could genderbend Sophie’s story and make it work like in the book. It would make sense if she disguised herself as a man at the ball so B has reason to not recognize her later on. Maybe only realizing while catchig her doing it again to be able to move more freely in society.
Another great video and I’m curious to see what they do with him as well!
Honestly when they introduced Lady Tilly with her high hair and sharp tailoring, I thought we were going to get Bottom Benedict to her Tilly Top, and honestly I could have been sold on the idea of that. God knows that the Baroness Bogdanoff was a real person, sort of, so Benedict and Tilly having a power exchange would have been historical *and* novel
Alas, no hanky spanky
What you term the 'gender-bend' is fine with me. What I am curious about (and admit a bit annoyed because we have to wait forever for the next season to find out how they do this) is how they will deal with Micaela. The book says Francesca has no living children from her first marriage. Michael becomes the new heir. Will they allow Micaela to become the heir? Will Francesca have a surviving son and, therefore, be in charge as the mother of the heir? There are few alternative ways to reproduce in the Regency era, and I wonder if adoption counts. Introducing Micaela puts a plotline of the book in a shaky spot.
I think they gonna do a three-way season mixing Francesca, Eloise and Benedict stories. Benedict's story is basically a Cinderella rip-off and the show already changed Eloise's because she's supposed to fall in love with the brother who married Marina on season one. Francesca's love interest gender-swap plus Benedict's obvious bisexuality could be the way to tie those two stories and throw Eloise in the middle by giving her a Scottish love interest. There are too many Bridgertons to give each an individual season, especially with all the subplots they tend to add that have nothing to do with the actual books. Now the mom also has a love interest!
Sir Philip was always supposed to marry Marina, though. That's not a change, just moving backstory to mainstory.
@@StarryEyed0590 True, but this Eloise has nothing to do with book Eloise and unless they do something before her season it would feel completely out of left field to pair them up.
I will not watch gender bender stories. And I was a real fan of the show plus the books.
I actually agree with your idea. It would have been more in character. They tried to do too many things in one season to lay the groundwork for the future seasons. There is such a thing as TOO much.
If we kept mistress Tilly and Mr Suave:
- Mr Suave should have been introduced earlier
- Benedict should have had the relaisation of his feelings
- Either everyone should have been happy keeping it casual or it should have developed into a consenual polycule for the time being that could break up more naturally due to external forces later
- The main story there should have been Tilly and Mr Suave reawakening his love of art - I thought that's where they were going after the dinner conversation.
Making Sophie a man is not as big of a deal as you might think. Because yes it’s a Cinderella story but also she’s the illegitimate daughter of an Earl who was raised by her father and her resemblance to the father is why Violet is cool with shit.
Doing a man instead still works and it could add extra layers to why the stepmom was so abusive. They totally should have done that rather than fucking up Francesca’s story.
The thing with gender bending Sophie though is that then you get rid of the reason she won’t be with Benedict that being that she doesn’t want to have illegitimate kids that have to possibly go through the kind of life she did. And I get that they could just say that instead of kids the issue is the prejudice of society but quite honestly I don’t trust these writers to make something like that work. When they take stuff from the books it works when they started to deviate it gets fairly shitty fairly quickly & while I say that as a book fan even from just the show perspective that is what happens consistently.
Gender aside the Cinderella story at its core is someone that is (for better or worse) so obsessed with ONE other person they scour the country searching for them.
Having a Poly character is fine but it being put with the Cinderella story is so strange to me.
I'm sure I'll enjoy whatever story they create but I am baffled and have no clue what they will decide to do with it.
The men are starting to give me the ick, Benedict and Colin especially. Maybe the new showrunners just doesn’t know how to write compelling love interests. I like the women in the show, but this is a romance. Both characters should be treated in equal measure
Well, they've already fatigued us with francesca and benedict. So. I highly doubt people are coming back. Besides, they have basically made 3 siblings gay at this point. It would've been nice if they would've given one sibling a whole season where they explore their sexuality and deal with the prejudice of the time. And how they struggle against all odds for their love. But no.
We get queer baiting and queer pandering. And wash out the whole season's worth of francesca's quiet love for shock value. All the qhile taking attention away from Polin
the showrunner has already said theynare going tomcontinue "having fun" with Benedict in the future. all I think she means, is sex, sadly.
Yeah, Brimsley & Reynolds broke my heart.
Whatever shall we do with Benedict, shall we have him keep working on his art, or show him running the household while his brother is away which apparently gives him a sense of purpose, don’t be crazy. Just give him another meaningless 1 season love interest to bang so we can keep up our quota of 1 sex scene each episode. Shall we show all the awesome interactions with him and his siblings, no, let’s keep him isolated with Tilly for most of the episodes. My favourite character was the least relevant and fun this season, I miss the banter
I agree. He should've had a male interest in this season and is rejected in the end. But I also think they could add a male interest after he and Sophie get together. Not in just a male sexual partner, but an actual third in their romantic relationship - with everyone aware of what's happening. If they manage not to make it only sexual but actually romantic, they might manage to pull it off. I think that's easier to pull it off with a satisfying ending for the fans then to give Benedict a gender-bend Sophie, because of the context of the era the story is placed in. But I don't know. I am cautiously optimistic.
Sophey makes more sense as a female in the economic drama
I think Benny starting in a gay relationship and deal with a heartbreak then starts with sophey emotionally wounded
Sophey slaps him out of his funk
season 3 took any kind of arc a bridgerton man could have had and tossed it out the window. i can absolutely understand that benedict would not be talking about art school because it hurt his pride but imagine if after he got laid, he‘d open up to tilley and paul, noted patron of the arts, instead of talking about getting laid. once i said benedict‘s glow up will be going to therapy and i stand by that but the writers keep missing opportunities to allow him or any man on this show to open up about his fears and dreams. i have no idea what benedict wants out of life, i have no idea what collin wants out of life, i don‘t even know what anthony wants except look at his hot wife all day. how is he feeling about the responsibility of being the viscount now, all he is doing is expanding the honeymoon. what is collin‘s goal now that he fooled around with all the hot women of continental europe and got married to jessica rabbit? is he going to miss traveling, how is he feeling under the macho persona, they really boiled what could have been a whole part two arc and a great foil to penelope‘s part 1 arc down to violet saying ‚you‘re so sensitive, don‘t lock all of yourself away just to be hot‘. why is benedict not opening up about art school and bisexuality when he‘s smoking with eloise on the swing set? are these two really the closest to each other or are they just insomniacs with a nicotine addiction?
i know more about lord debbling than i know about the bridgerton men.
I totally agree with all the points you made and think your suggestions would have been a vast improvement. I was not thrilled with his storyline in season 3.
And on a personal note, as a strictly monogamous woman who has had a bisexual man choose casual group sex over her, that rejection hurts like hell and it's really sullied my perception of his character.
Does anybody remember that decendants 4 is coming out in a week? It's a forgetable movie plus no one talks about it, which is clear, why after seeing the trailer. It looks like the movie is trying to be alice through the looking glass on a budget.
also the ending of his book (An Offer From a Gentleman) was cringe and unreal, like believe me i was so dissapointed reading it and i hope they will change it in series
It could totally be a polycule. He marries a woman that he loves but they also have a best friend who lives in their home. ❤
Am I the only one who doesn't want eloise to being a lesbian or having a wlw relationship? (Even tho i'm a bisexual woman myself)
Let me explain, I would rather have Eloise as an heterosexual woman because it would be more interesting and compelling story, we know she doesn't want to get married and with a lot of babies, but if she was a lesbian the whole arc of that would be "she hates marriage because she doesn't like men" and that's all. When if she was heterosexual you can make a more deep critic about society and women's rights, because she do likes men, she can feel romantically or sexually attracted to them BUT STILL refuse to marry because she understands that women can have goals and dreams besides marriage, they can be talented, succesful, bussiness-owners like the modist, or really smart and well-educated ladies like Kate, or talented like LW. If she was heterosexual but a feminist you can actually explore and go deeper into feminist and political ideas.
I would prefer Cressida being queer than Eloise, I think it would be more interesting for Cressida's character and her story.
Awright I've fixed All-The-Problems™️ for the next few seasons. So there's clearly not great continuity between seasons, and yet maybe just enough continuity to make it a problem to entirely get rid of Michaela, Sir Phillip, & Benedict's uhhhh interesting behavior.
So next season can be Benedict's season. He's basically going around refusing to have any rules or regulations and he decides to visit Scotland. Whilst there, somehow or another, he discovers that Michaela's freak is as freaky as his, and throughout the season, it's him trying to out-freak her, with her refusing to commit cause she's wild, and him finding himself being challenged in life trying to come up with ways to out-wicked her. Somehow or another, his art will make a reappearance. In the meantime, Francesca is in love with John, but has strange feelings she doesn't understand for Michaela, and is constantly racked with guilt at these feelings as well. Eloise and Michaela are going around acting like bffs who don't have a care in the world, whilst secretly Eloise is pining for her lost love with Theo, and Michaela is having frequent secret rendezvous with Benedict. And Fran and Ben both whistfully watch El and Michaela together. Obviously we're gonna have to have some sort of Kanthony, Polin, and remaining Bridgertons throughout as well. The season ends with the masquerade, where Benedict and Michaela somehow working it out, eventually marrying; Theo disguising himself at the ball and falling in love with Eloise all over again; and then John passing away shortly after the wedding from aneurysm or heart attack or something similar because of how stressed he's become over Fran's behavior, which is really her secret guilt over her feelings for Michaela, betrayal to John, and agony of seeing Michaela and Ben together. Fran's stress has also caused miscarriage(s) at some point or another, which she also feels guilt over. Marina's death is also announced at some point during this episode. The book title "When He Was Wicked" is included in the episode titles, referring to Ben's wildness with Michaela.
Next season is Eloise's, and takes place over the course of a year or so, beginning a year-ish after the masquerade. Her new aim in life is to discover the masked man from the ball, and gets Pen's help. She and Fran have both separately become penpals to the widowed Sir Philip, without one another's knowledge. Sir Philip feels conflicted about the sisters, but eventually tries to pressure Fran into meeting him. She feels deep guilt over the loss of her baby with John, and slowly begins to fall in love with Phillip's twin children through his letters about them, awakening a desire for motherhood in a way she's never experienced. Eloise meanwhile, is starting to feel guilty over having strong feelings for masked Theo whilst very openly speaking with Philip through letters, and ALSO feels like she's somehow betraying masked man by having a twinge of feelings for Sir Phillip, and ALSO can't help but think about Theo throughout all of this. At some point, she and Pen trace masked man to the general area where Theo's from, and Eloise disguises herself at some sort of working-class dance to try to discover his true identity. Whilst there, she meets Theo while in disguise, and he also in turn falls in love again with Eloise, not realizing who she is behind her mask. This makes her even more confused over her feelings, and Eloise word vomits to Fran, who's visiting. Fran realizes they both have been speaking to Sir Phillip, making her realize that she's fallen in love with him (and at some point out of love with Michaela). She's distraught over this, once again guilty for loving someone she believes Eloise loves, and is realizing how much she truly wishes to be a mother. Eloise and Theo at some point figure out their secrets, and are upset, but then have some sort of angry makeup intimate moment, culminating in Eloise trying to pressure Theo into becoming the male equivalent of a mistress, since Theo has huge qualms about them being in different social classes. There's some sort of huge conflict over the course of an episode or so, with Benedict and/or Violet, and/or Pen giving sage advice to Eloise. She decides to leave her life of wealth behind and elopes with Theo to live a working-class life where she can help Theo run a print shop, and do feministy things. The season ends the evening of Eloise's elopment, where we see Eloise and Fran simultaneously picking up their parcels of letters from Sir Phillip, and kissing it. Eloise after kissing it, places it lovingly in the bonfire in the city where she now resides; whereas Fran places it into her carrying bag, and then sneaks into a carriage and rides off. The book title "To Sir Phillip With Love" is included in one of the episode's titles, referring to the drama of both girls having feelings for him.
The next season is Fran's. She doesn't know that Eloise has eloped, and has decided for the first time in her life to be spontaneous, and has accepted Sir Phillips invitation to stay with him, being conflicted about her feelings for him, her knowledge of Eloise's feelings, and the idea of losing her chance to be a mother. Meanwhile back at the Bridgerton home, everyone is freaking out at both Eloise and Fran having upnleft. Violet is having existential crisis and reaches out to Marcus again, or has some sort of romance going on throughout the season; we get to see Eloise discovered by her family and living a whole new lifestyle; we get to see Hyacinth out in society; and we see Fran and Phillip bond over their grief, and the children. And of course happenings with Kanthony, Benaela, & Polin. We definitely have the scene in the book where the 4 Bridgerton brothers storm Sir Phillip's home, and forced him to marry Fran. Not sure how the season will end, obviously something hinting at Hyacinth's season, or maybe even a Violet wedding? The book title "An Offer From a Gentleman" is included in one of the episode titles, referring to Sir Phillip's offer to come to his house, and eventually marry.
This way, we get to keep Theo, Michaela, and Benedict's wildness like in the show, but also get to have some happy endings that are a bit closer to the book's. It's also super unexpected, which Shondaland clearly likes. Also I came up with this in like 20 minutes, so there's definitely a lot of editing that would need to be doing, but I don't feel like my competition on show editing in this case is that steep teehee. I believe this would either satisfy everyone, or make everyone furious, it's a tossup! 😁
actually i wouldn't mind that storyline, if edited well 😂
Okay, when we first start Benedict's book, we learn he has been an incredible rake out of the public eye. So really, being bi wouldn't be a stretch as it was illegal. The problem for them to gender bend the love interests for any of them is the major change or complete replacement of story arcs for each Bridgerton. You stated how they should do that very well. The problem is that they haven't and most likely won't.
They already teased the masked ball so I think Ben I next.
I have actually come up with a few ways they can go (disclaimer: I only watched the show so no shade to anyone who loves the books)
1. If they keep Sophie as a woman they can make her queer as well like maybe she's also bi or pan (this wouldn't change much)
2. Genderbend to male character (probably the more controvertial one)
3. Have Sophie be a trans woman and have her be HER at the masqerade ball and other events that grant anonymity and be her dead name everywhere else (this would make it harder for Benedict to find her again and be a queer love story)
Have you thought of reviewing Maxton Hall? I know it would be good.
Even if they don’t do the gender bend, I don’t think the book storyline works anymore. It ends with them settling down in the country, living a quiet life with their kids. That just doesn’t seem to fit Benedict’s character in the show. He seems like he’s a real city excitement kind of guy. I can’t see him having that “ traditional” end.
I’d be sad not to see Sophie, I really loved an offer from a gentleman. However, if the show was going to make changes, out of all the storylines, Benedict is the easiest to change and still honour the books. I suppose you could also gender swap Philip Cane too. That could still work. But for Francesca, I’m not sure how they can pull this off.
I feel like it could be two love interests for him and all three get together
I think Benedict should´ve been season 3 and Polin (Colin + Pen) season 4. Bc then we would´ve had another season for Polin development and preparation, preparation and development for Colin alone and for Pen alone, especially as Whistledown. Pen needed more time that as Whistledown she did more harm than good, even if unintentinally. Maybe a scene where she´s in the park and she sees two men arguing and fighting and hurting each other over sth one of them read in the latest Whistledown column. And this could´ve opened Pens eyes to work on her Whistledown. Also in the books Sophie worked for the Bridgertons but then quit. While she waited outside of the house for the carriage her stepmother saw her and send the police after her. Sophie lands in prison. A few days after that Violet and Benedict find out through Whistledown that Sophie is in prison and go to save her. They could´ve made it exactly like that. The guards take Sophie with them and through the windows of her home Pen watches this horrific scene. She witnessed how this young woman, form the working class, got send away. Bc she knows how working class people get treated she knows that Sophie very likely is innocent. Maybe through the Bridgertons she maybe also heard how nice and kind Sophie is. So what does she do? Pen goes to her room and starts writing a new Whistledown where she mentions poor Sophie. She doesn´t write about it bc of the juicy gossip, she writes bc she actually worries about Sophie and bc she knows the Bridgertons could help her. In her writing she is very generous and worryful.
I am late to this, but that being said, I do think they def could have made the end-point of his S3 storyline A LOT earlier than the end of it but that being said, I don't think he had no development but the pacing was def jarring. Also, book purists aside, I am perfectly fine that there are multiple queer siblings (with potential gender bend changes) cause the assumption only "one queer sibling is enough" is inherently heteronormative. Moving forward, although the ending gives off he wants to explore more, his book trope is "love at first sight" is inherently in line with his desires because love is surprising so he may want to explore more- love doesn't give one a choice
It would feel like such a betrayal for me if Benedict just ends up in a straight relationship right after this very rushed discovery of his sexuality. I understand if they don't decide to genderbend Sophie, but in that case at least have him date a guy for real next season before he meets Sophie.
I don’t want to be force-fed diversity in escapist fantasy. Too real, too political.
Not interested in any further seasons, the switch of random ethnicity changes already took me out several times. It just screams “aren’t we so woke” and the intent to educate is taking over.
Why do you see diversity as inherently political ? Why can't it also be escapist ? You're talking about a show which has had Queen Charlotte being black from the beginning, an Indian woman being a viscountess in regency Britain the show is already inherently diverse from the beginning
@@Nishanth_mementomori Because it is in this instance.
@@Mphajay when the original author herself doesn't have any issues with these changes idk why y'all would care so much
Lol forced diversity in a show that advertised itself from the beginning with that as a selling point is hilarious.
“Force-fed diversity,” oh, you mean including all people that naturally exist in the world? I wonder why someone would have an issue with this
I agree that it would be really difficult to give him a female endgame love interest after the super sloppy "bi rep" they did in season 3. The would need to have him be romantically involved with a man for a period of time first in order for it not to just be the stereotypical promiscuity lens. I just highly doubt they will have time for that. Will definitely be interesting to see where they go with it.
Happened in season four when he meets Cinderella
I find myself often confused by people going over stories and trying to rewrite them to create a "correct" way to explore someone's sexuality. I mean,, strictly speaking, the very nature of exploring sexuality with a character is becoming frought with "the right way" and "the wrong way." Is Benedict's story believable? I think that it is. Do bisexual people settle on straight committed relationships? Yes they do. If his doesn't that would be fine. I don't like calling it queerbaiting just because he doesnt commit to a man. So far, all we have seen is that he likes sex with a man while also being with a woman. That is a far cry from hom being gay. Some videos said that he was gay based upon season 1 storyline. Why? Because he wants to be an artist, or because his respose to being abruptly confronted by gay sex wasnt outright homophobia? Season 1 demonstrated that he had character. He was curious and respectful while being critical of any emotional harm that might have been done by the artist's relationship. Benedict clearly enjoys sex with women. We have yet to see him form a deep emotional connection with a sexual partner, including the one man he did have sex with. I like his story, because he is showing real chatacter growth. Ironically, the theme of his story in season 3 was about his freedom from restrictions. Yes, the narrative is about the restrictions of Society, but one might infer that as a character, he seeks freedom from his restrictions of what we the viewers see him as he "has to be." I want to see him grow in his artwork, grow in his sexuality, and most importantly grow in his ability to form a deep emotional connection with a love interest. Man or woman.
I like Michaela, but I’m equally hoping they keep Sophie.
I 100% think it would be far more interesting for him to end up with a man for his season. 'cause I find Sophie in the books bland, and one could artfully play with some ideas about Immigrant pressure etc from the bones of Sophie's story, say East Asian man, etc. Cinderella with a woman, boring. Cinderella with a man, interesting.
I believe cressida will be his love interest. Cressida misses the ton and attend the mas querade ball, she already has that aunt that abuses her so. I believe it will be great for her to change and become a bridgerton too
It would be really cool if they made Soph nonbinary. Trans, intersex, agender, genderfluid, something.
I also think some type of a trans Sophie is the only way to save what they did to Benedict (ie how sloppy they handled him) and would give them an opportunity to really develop both characters in a meaningful way. Here’s hoping!
i think it's quite interesting that if you watch reaction videos etc and look at the comments, that viewers aren't happy with season 3 at all, leftists AND conservatives - for different reasons. if you look at the wikipedia entry or rotten tomatoes that isn't reflected there, not in the least. makes me think funny thoughts. no reaction from cast or show runners to the huge backlash, too. must've paid a lot of money to keep up the appearance of it being a good season 😏
Keep the Cinderella type story but if they want to go that way keep the story line have it so he finds a guy of no title with a workers background. Like Theo was. He could poke at Ben being lazy.
I think most of the original target audience would be happy if we just stick to the books 😪
Sorry but this is a very, very bad take.
People do not stop being bisexual just cause they're in a opposite sex relationship. Benedict would still be bisexual, if he'd be with a woman. In fact having a bisexual man end up with a woman, would be something new, as that's normally reserved for bisexual women who end up with men. Bisexual men usually end up with guys.
Also man or women isn't the only option.
His love interest could be none binary or trans. Benedict could also be pan and not bi. Which is actually more what's implied in the show, when they talk about Benedict never being attracted to men before but this specific one.
Maxbe widen your horizon a bit more. 🤷♂️
I read his book and the Cinderella story is honestly so boring to me. Across all adaptations it's a very simple plot and it's been beaten to death by the shear amount of adaptations. If they make massive changes I would prefer it.
Harry potter with fast and loose gender bend will lead to J.K. early grave...
I agree with you. Frankly, it's getting tedious.
They'd have had a much easier time gender-bending the love interest of Benedict or Eloise than they have for Francesca. Fran's was the WRONG story to do this to. That showrunner needs to be fired for incompetence. What a disservice to the series. That said, it seemed Benedict was in bed with them the half season while everything else going on was days or weeks in the timeline. What was that? lol Must have been a REALLY good time. I mean, did ya see Paul? I certainly can't blame him...haha He's directionless and trying to find his place in the world and learn who he is, so the tryst made perfect sense for his exploration of that. There was precedent, a lil foreshadowing, curiosity, etc. and while he wasn't ready in S1 with the art teacher, Lady Tilly inviting him to a 3some made him curious enough to try it and he liked it. She needed to be the mediator there and it worked. Likely wouldn't have had she been a man. The elements of storytelling are there if they had decided he would be the one for a queer endgame and they could have made that work. Fran, however, there is no foreshadowing, precedent or anything for her and several things against it so it makes no sense to just plop that in there and expect us not to question it. No consistency there, no foreshadowing, several precedents that are the opposite, etc., so it's unrealistic and unbelievable. Bad storytelling and gratuitous without regard to even the very basic tenants of proper storytelling and the showrunner needs to be fired for it, they need to fix the mess, and save future seasons because this showrunner butchered S3 so badly it was barely watchable.
Sophie Beckett
If you combine gender-bend with the Cressida theory, it could be Beckett Cowper, Cressida's illegitimate brother
The books are terrible and the more they deviate from them the better. There is a reason Queen Charlotte was the best written season since it was Shonda writing an original story that was not tied down to these books. Most of the viewers have not read these books anyway. I'm just hoping next season has better writing and that Benedict story get'stold well (if he is the lead).
Benedict’s entire bi plot line was purely gratuitous unless his end game love interest is a man. But the problem with this is they already showed in season 1 the anguish suffered by a same sex couple who couldn’t so much as smile at each other in public even in Bridgerton world. I don’t see how a same sex relationship for Benedict could be a joyful event. Like Grantham, will Benedict marry Sophie, but be secretly in love with Simon? Where’s the honour and romance in that?
Sophie will be trans.
Ben - Binary bae 😅😞
I would not be surprised if the writers ended up making Sophie a trans woman and used Benedict's discovery of his bisexuality as a way to ease both the character and the viewer into such a relationship.
Bridgertons is just now about LGBTQ…am not interested in such story lines at all. By the end of it I expect they will have trans as well. I will not be watching this train wreck of adaption…🤮
The only point I can see to B’s s3 arc is that they intend on making Sophie a trans woman.
Let me be clear, trans women ARE women, so Benedict’s endgame would still be with Sophie as we know her. However, if his lesson from season 3 was “the world is bigger than you know, love is expansive and more open than you know, there are all kinds of people,” then it would open him up for a relationship that isn’t heteronormative. Sophie is a woman and he sees her as a woman, but is now comfortable with bodies that aren’t DFB.
I just don’t believe Netflix is brave enough to do it.
The thing is it wouldn´t be a trans woman who presents as a woman, it would be a male presenting person trying to pass as a woman but still presents as male. Also since now Benedict is officially bi it can come off as "you´re automatically bi fi you date a trans person" since again Sophie might identify as a woman but still very clearly presents as male.
They can nake Sphoie AFAB but a non-binary to win both parts of the audience i guess (for their times, can show it visually as cross dressing etc)