The brick roads in those extremely walkable sections are very recent. Downtown didn't used to be nearly so people-friendly until a lot of funding was put in to make things pedestrian-centered. It's been a very slow process, but the reason so many people walk around there is because it's the most enjoyable area to just exist in. People talk to each other, interact, events happen there, and stores tend to be locally owned and operated. I'm loving the change and hope that that, coupled with a greater focus on better public transport, can see the Tulsa area truly become a walkable city as in the days of yore. As you say, being completely encircled by highways allows fast travel that doesn't interfere with day to day life within the city. Local grocery stores... oh yes, we'll need those too.
On 11th street (route 66) over around Utica, you can see where the asphalt has chipped away to reveal the underlaying old brick roads that are still there today.
While the gathering place is nice, it demonstrates a a greater problem with Oklahoma. Ya see, it was paid for by a rich, oil baron family that has managed to escape being taxed for decades. In states that actually tax industry, places like the gathering place are paid for by the city, and/or state, and that extra money levied by way of taxes ALSO pays for things like roadways, public transit, your fire department, and schools. Oklahoma is a joke state, and should not be looked to as an example of how to do anything right.
@@joshDammmitI’m going to play devil’s advocate- “places like the gathering place”… Gathering Place is pretty darn special and unique. More than just “nice”. It’s not the only park in the world, but few rival it in size, scope and quality. It’d be difficult to replicate it via the process I think you’re advocating for.
@@joshDammmitTulsa is still doing pretty good and the gathering place hasn’t made an effect on the taxes, it just falls into the parks department and hasn’t been too much of an issue. Great prices, great people, great state.
Tulsa has a lot more culture than you may realize. You missed the world-class art museums of Philbrook and Gilcrease, while the Woody Guthrie museum is surprisingly good too. There is the Tulsa Symphony, Broadway shows in the Performing Arts Center, and also the Tulsa Ballet. The stunningly beautiful neighborhoods of Maple Ridge and Ranch Acres would have been a nice drive. The art in the many parks such as, “Appeal to the Great Spirit” in Woodward Park and the adjacent rose gardens. There is the huge community Gathering Place and the nearby Oklahoma Aquarium as well. And all the Art Deco buildings downtown are definitely worth checking out, as well as the Frank Lloyd Wright home. You missed the iconic Golden Driller too! The Air and Space museum and planetarium are good and shows off the Art Deco design of the original airport. Tulsa is a wonderful place to live and raise a family. I wouldn’t call it a destination place to visit, but while there, you can find plenty of things to see and do for a couple of days. Go to South Tulsa to find the traffic you didn’t encounter in the downtown on a holiday. And you’re right, Quick Trip is THE place…get real gas with no ethanol.
I visited Tulsa in 2019 for a work trip. I stayed in the DoubleTree in Downtown. The city had a really interesting, small-town feel. I did get to enjoy some delicious barbecue.
The problem with "small town feel" in a city of over 500 thousand people, is either astronomical rent prices or having to live so far from amenities that you might as well not even bother living there. We should keep the "small town feel" to actual small towns, where it's still a functional way to build.
@@dlinkster - The worst part is you get a TON of anti-urban types who think small town is superior to big city... yet they still choose to live in a big city, and then actively sabotage the city after moving in by imposing a development model that loses viability once the population goes above 50k. Yet they're trying to impose that model on a city with 500k people.
@@arthurwintersight7868Except none of that is true of Tulsa. It is an extremely affordable city. “Small town” feel is a bit of a misnomer. When people say it, I think they mean “it’s not Dallas, certainly not Manhattan, and I can get to the other side of the city in 20 minutes”. But it’s a metro area of over a million people that comes with all amenities and is affordable. That isn’t to say we don’t have a shortage of “affordable housing”. Like most cities in America, it is an issue we need to address sooner rather than later.
You missed The Blue Dome district downtown by just a couple of blocks when you drove by the stadium. It's been revitalized into a great restaurant/entertainment district.
@@MileageMike485 you also missed Cherry St. half a mile south of Pearl District, on 15th St. Great little strip of restaurants and bars, with some shopping.
I live in the city of Owasso like 20 minutes from the casino in Catoosa that your passed, and it’s crazy to recognize all the places someone goes in a video for once 😄
I live in South Tulsa and there is a fair amount of traffic where I live (although not *congestion* as one would see around Atlanta, where I used to live). I’m always kind of shocked at how quiet downtown Tulsa is when I venture up there. I do love the ease of mobility all over Tulsa, although our roads are very much hit or miss.
I did a long weekend in Tulsa as I am an art deco freak and there are lots of art deco buildings in Tulsa. I drove around various parts of the city and never really saw traffic. Also, they have a Del Taco *w*
I was told Tulsa has the second most art deco architecture in the USA behind Miami because of all the 1920s and 1930s oil money. And yes, Del Taco is 2 miles from my parent's house.
I’m from Tulsa, to answer your grocery store question: Just north of that OSU Tulsa campus you drove through is the very poor area of town. Every grocery store they built in downtown or north of downtown was robbed out of business. Over the last ten years downtown has been greatly revitalized and improved, crime has dropped significantly, but they haven’t yet built another grocery store.
As someone who just recently moved back to Tulsa is it me or is crime in general seemingly rapidly dropping in this city? Things seem alot nicer now compared to last time
MIKE!! Welcome back! We missed you! Thank you for reviewing our to' up @ss streets, again! You almost came up to my neighborhood. I live 2 miles east of downtown, in Midtown next to the Univ of Tulsa. We are walkable, even to downtown and I have 3 grocery stores within walking distance. And bout 6 QTs. 👀 Thank you for featuring Tulsa again. PS. The people here are STILL no-drivin @ss. lol
I moved here from Atlanta and couldn’t be happier living in Owasso. All the advantages of Tulsa plus easy access to some amazing countryside. There’s some amazing preserves you can go to that feel like your in a western movie.
You should check out parts of Oklahoma in the south and the west. You'll be amazed. Most residents don't even now. The mountain areas we have, about 4 different ones, areas that look like Utah, Colorado and even like a mini smokey mountains near Arkansas.
I think I did comment about how Tulsa highway network is well up to date when you did your driving tour of the highways in Tulsa Mileage Mike. Didn’t think about fact that Tulsa metro is growing at rate that allows its infrastructure to keep up with its growth.
There is a Reasors grocery on fifteenth street aka "cherry street" just outside of the downtown interdispersal loop. Still walkable from parts of downtown, if a bit far. Reasors is partially employee owned and is generally good quality, although the quality has degraded since its most recent aquisition by a Texas family owned chain.
Why was I excited to see a video of Tulsa on this channel? I have no clue since Tulsa isn’t very touristy, for a lack of a better term. I had the opportunity to visit Tulsa for a week during a convention back in April. I had the opportunity to go to travel parts of Route 66 and see some of the gimmick attractions, drive freely on the interstates and freeways, and walk freely in the downtown area near the BOK Center. For a city with not much going on, it actually has alot of potential. All of the restaurants I went to in the downtown area are literally the best I’ve ever been to. Really great food and wonderful service with a smile. All of the neighborhoods along the Arkansas River seem to be very nice and lively as I saw many people going on walks and having picnics in local parks. What you said about The Pearl comparing it to Little Five Points in Atlanta is exactly what I said when I drove through that area as well. All in all, there’s not much going on in Tulsa yet, but it definitely has its potential for bustling economic growth and it seems to have the infrastructure to handle it when the time comes.
Doesn't sound like you went very far IMO . No Gilcrease or Philbrook museums. No Woodward park or Utica area. No south tulsa . No Riverside Dr. You didn't skim the serfice. But I give you the benefit you were time constrained.
100% agree, this series is fantastic, gets us a little taste of what the city looks like and what's around, and the commentary really adds a lot of context to what we're seeing!
@@MileageMike485 honestly this is a great format cuz most ppl dont show what outside of downtown looks like. Cant wait for the okc one, born and raised here
Thank you for your perspective. Living here I get frustrated quickly with what feels like a lack of forward thinking in city planning. It’s good to know from a person not from here that maybe it’s not so bad. Great video!
I am in OKC and do not visit Tulsa much but as someone who has lived in OKC for the past couple of years what I can tell you is that it is a very car dependent city. Downtown OKC is much like Downtown Tulsa with a bit more skyscrapers and is very walkable like you mentioned in the video. I am honestly quite happy with the downtown OKC and Bricktown areas and think the city did a good job with the infrastructure. Now once you go outside downtown into almost any other part of Oklahoma City you will find out real fast that to get around quick you need a car or to uber as our public transit systems need some work to say the least. In OKC your only choice of public transit is the bus (and while Stitt is in office that's all there will be as he has stated as much) and we do have a rapid bus which is improvement but if you need to get to other places not on that route it can be a pain to navigate and get around. Every other bus that is not the rapid takes quite a while to get somewhere and a 10-20 minute car ride can take you almost an hour on the bus. I think that if OKC improved its transit times significantly to where a 20min car ride only takes 30min by bus then you will have a lot more people who see public transit as viable and as a result have fewer vehicles on the roads. OKC is a lot more congested with traffic depending on time of day and where you are and is a pretty fast growing city so you only ever see more and more vehicles on the roads. To add on to this because of how bad public transit is you have it being stigmatized and stereotyped and so this only adds to the car dependent nature of the city. Also when it comes to walkability, even simple things like walking to a park for example can become really dangerous real fast depending on how far of a walk or where you are located within the city. I live next to one of the biggest parks in the city and there is virtually zero infrastructure like sidewalks or safe areas (besides other properties or businesses) for people to walk without being arms length from vehicles going 30+mph so that is another downside to OKC. Other than that though Oklahoma City is a pretty cheap place to live and if I had a lot more income I would be living elsewhere but it is far from the worst place to be. I know this video was about Tulsa but just wanted to share my thoughts about OKC and if you post a video about OKC I will likely just put this comment there instead. Great video though!
10:23 I grew up in this neighborhood. If you would have turned left at the white building, you would have been driving down my street. It was a pleasant surprise to see you driving around the part of the city where I grew up. :)
I’m from Tulsa, I’ve lived here 34 years, the reason we don’t have a downtown grocery store is because until a few years ago no one lived downtown it was a place for business and no one wanted a grocery store there and it had a very high crime rate and homeless population, when I was a kid you didn’t go downtown at night unless you were crazy/dealing drugs or going to a hockey game or something, it’s weird to see how nice it’s become in the last decade, and now people are building apartments and we’re getting transplants from New York or similar that want to live down town. I go downtown a lot lately because of various things and there is still a homeless population and some crime but it’s far from the war zone it was in the 90’s and they’re trying to make it a place that rich people used to living in a penthouse would actually want to move to, I think we’re going to see more of this in Tulsa as time goes on, next time if you want a better view of the city, I’d suggest going to the Utica square are and the area around phillbrook museum to see some of Tulsas oil Barron homes from back in the day and go take a drive down admiral to see the poor side of town and 71st to see the new money side of town. I live in midtown Tulsa by the fair grounds and it’s very nice and middle class nothing much to see that you didn’t show, but you missed the highs and lows of Tulsa by not doing these other three. I’ve lived in a couple cities and I always come back to Tulsa because of family and it’s a good town. I’d highly recommend moving here if you’re fed up with wherever you are, we’re a blue city in a very red state and I think we balance things well as a result, Tulsa is the weird gay uncle of cities in Oklahoma and I couldn’t imagine living anywhere else in Oklahoma as a result.
My city Utrecht (Holland) has roughly the same amount of citizens, but the layout is completely different. Tulsa looks like it is going well, nice drive and commentary.
The BlackWall Street area ran north on Greenwood Ave, from Archer Street to Pine Street. The 1970s soul funk group GAP Band took their name from these roads to honor the Black Wall Street.
Thank you Mileage Mike for giving my city such a wonderful infracture video!!! we sweep the streets every night with huge street sweepers, and we have a clean city. thanks---------Rex
no, Tulsa is definitely Southern. Oklahoma City is the combination Midwestern/Southwestern. You can even tell by the speaking, Tulsan's have a southern twank whereas OKC people are more midwest and western.
@@us1fedvet It depends on who you ask. Most Tulsans consider themselves Midwestern but most people in the real Midwest (Indiana, Ohio, Michigan, etc.) would probably call Tulsa Southern. I haven’t heard it referred to as “Southwestern” except online. Personally, I think Tulsa has no regional identification. It’s just itself. For example, look at the stores and restaurants. There are no Culver’s locations in Tulsa, so it’s not Midwestern. No Bojangles or Krystal locations and only one Waffle House, so not really Southern. No In N Out, which rules out Southwestern. Instead it has Braum’s, which is mostly exclusive to Oklahoma. Tulsa also has plenty of other chains that aren’t even in OKC (Mazzio’s, Reasor’s Grocery Stores, Daylight Donuts, etc.)
@@rchilde1 nah, it’s Oklahoma no matter what. Tulsa sits closer to Missouri and Kansas than Ok City which is “north north Texas”. Regardless, neither considers itself “southern”. I do recommend that you sample an Oklahoma onion burger preferably at SIDS in El Reno. You’ll thank me. Cheers!
@@rchilde1Tulsa feels more like Kansas City or St. Louis than like New Orleans or Birmingham. Southeastern Oklahoma is the only part of the state that feels southern.
I lived in Downtown Tulsa for a year. There's a lot of bars if you're into that. I wish there had been a grocery store so that you wouldn't have to drive to get groceries. Another big problem in downtown is the homeless population. There are entire camps of homeless in Tulsa downtown. People high on drugs, walking around screaming. It was the first place that I had seen human shit on the ground while walking around. There are bridges that people sleep under as well, making it feel very unsafe. The gathering place and the trails there are also full of the homeless, and I had almost been robbed once or twice while trying to walk it. Tulsa would be amazing if it wasn't for the homeless tbh, people taking up public areas and claiming them as their residence for free.
I'm not sure any city has really figured out how to effectively deal with the homeless. You see 'em in red states and blue states alike. Hawaii is teaming with them. I hear lots of ideas but I still see 'em almost everywhere I go.
That "Big Box Home Depot" has always been in downtown, as you can tell by the architecture. Not always as a Home Depot though; it started as a Warehouse Market (a local grocery chain which is all but gone now).
I love my hometown. You should come back sometime and spend a few days check out the other districts in town, like Cherry Street, Brookside and South Tulsa.
First shot: the BOK arena. Saw Springsteen there Feb. 2023. Tulsa is a city not without its charms. My long time social Media friend Paula lives there and we finally got to meet.
Not having a real grocery downtown is a drag. There's a DGX (dollar general X) on Boston, but QT's almost got a better grocery selection. There's a Reasor's at 15th and Lewis, which is the closest grocery. I do know two people who live downtown without a car.
Downtown Tulsa went though it's "Urban Renewal" phase in the late 60's and early 70's that's why we have such "good" highways because they erased anything that was an "eyesore", starting in the 90's the city embarked on its gentrification of downtown and surrounding areas; anything that looks newer than 1990 was built on the vacant lots left over from urban renewal, anything that looks older than 1990 is what survived. It's looks nice but that's only because they pushed the poorer and homeless people out to other parts of the city, after business hours it's mostly populated by hipsters eating overpriced, mediocre food or blowing their rent money on overpriced tickets to some event at the BOK center.
Your timeline is essentially correct, but what a reductive, pessimistic take. It looks nice because the community has invested billions of dollars in efforts to revitalize the area and to address the ills of the past. Oh, and by the way, there are still plenty of homeless downtown that need our help.
@andrew No, Tulsa is a shithole. The worst schools, corrupt cops, tweakers outside every gas station, along with a bunch of pedophiles. I grew up and lived in various parts of Tulsa. It is all shit. But most of Oklahoma is anyways.
It's probably too late but you should have stopped by El Reno and Yukon Oklahoma. Yukon is Oklahoma city's bedroom community. El Reno is where all the oil field and all the working class live that work in Oklahoma City and Yukon.
@@rchilde1 oh I know he'll do Oklahoma City. But I'm sure that this video and that video is not a real time video. That storm that he just went through I think happened about 2 maybe 3 weeks ago. He's on to the next state by now
Their Main Street through downtown looks very walkable and the area near the baseball stadium. Much of the rest of it, I’m less sure about. I think I made mention of all the parking lots in the last video where this footage appears without voiceover. Sure, if there are sidewalks everywhere, one can walk places, but with the presence of so many surface parking lots, is there a critical mass of places that people would want or need to go to in order to make it a place where one would want to walk? There’s no grocery store there in Downtown, so for living there, not so much, I’d imagine. The residential neighborhoods you visited remind me a lot of neighborhoods in the Kansas City Metro. Lot sizes and houses looked exactly the same. Did you really say QT is the best gas station? Meh. QuickChek, Royal Farms, Casey’s (their newer ones), Love’s, and Wawa are all better, IMO.
@@kesschristopher I would say Archer and Greenwood streets are pretty walkable as well but they weren’t featured in this video. The most “walkable “ areas of Tulsa are Brookside, Cherry Street and 11th Street.
Oklahoma cities were built around cars, and walking isn't part of our culture. Step outside of downtown Tulsa and you'll find out real quick you need a car to get anywhere (or take the bus, but I honestly don't know how good Tulsa's bus system is). That might change though since the younger generation seems to be less eager to learn to drive, but then again we're a very red state and there's little support for public transit so maybe not.
@@jeffspaulding9834 Tulsa’s bus system is abysmal but it is slightly better than it was in the early 2010s. As far as I know, the majority of the younger generation still prefers to drive but there are tiny pockets of younger people that live car-lite or even car free.
@@highway2heaven91 I'm sure the majority do, but it seems like a lot larger percentage of kids are waiting until they're older (20+) to get their licenses, and some of them just aren't getting them at all. Which is just bizarre to me - almost everyone my age got them as soon as they turned 16. I don't have any numbers, though - it's based around how many people I knew without licenses when I was young vs how many young people I see without them today. My group might be an outlier.
Each of the major hotel groups has a listed building downtown, and they can be inexpensive enough to justify an upgrade. Tulsa Club, Atlas Life, Ambassador: Hilton, Marriott, Hyatt. There's also the Brut, which was converted from a brutalist concrete apartment block.
As a resident of the city this is a decently accurate representation of the city. Only thing that is slightly off is the traffic. We have pretty good traffic control but in my experiences, it can get decently congested at times. You must've gotten lucky. It definitely has miles better traffic than most cities in the USA though. The storm thing is the most accurate though lol
The traffic here is smooth, unless of course you take the BA expressway to commute, like most tulsans. anyone going to or from downtown, south tulsa, broken arrow, bixby, or even out down by muskogee will be using that during rush hour. it’s not pleasant
While many citizens of the US wouldn’t consider Tulsa, OK as part of the American South, the US Census Bureau considers the state of Oklahoma as part of the American South. So by default, Tulsa, OK is a southern city and metro. -Lifelong Cocoa, FL resident
Tisdale Parkway is named for the father of the basketball player/musician Wayman Tisdale. When he played for my Sacramento Kings I called him "Tisale" because he played no D(efense)
I moved to Tulsa in 2003. It has improved a lot due to the Vision 2025 plan. The streets were in a lot worse shape. There was no BOK staium, and there was a less nice minor league stadium outside of downtown at the fairgrounds. You missed the Blue Dome District and the Gathering Place.
@@LawrenceMarkFearon He didn’t mention that US 75 can get congested during rush hour. Unlike in other cities, one more lane should actually fix it. If not, there are other routes that one can take.
@@Gravitatis because some people [not me] have the theory that more interstate lane capacity attracts more people to the interstate and off the side roads. I believe the opposite- if enough interstate lanes are built congestion will be eliminated.
@@appleicatpromax7069 Dang, you must have a vendetta against Tulsa. I visited about a month ago from Dallas and believe me, Tulsa traffic was NOTHING compared to DFW. I definitely do NOT disagree with the third world cities having better transit infrastructure though... Bangkok and pretty much anywhere in Japan has great transit and walkability, but they are way bigger and different than most american cities.
Tulsa, and Oklahoma at large, has some of the WORST roads in the country. Not only are they poorly maintained, but when roadworks do take place, they take literal years to complete. Couple all of that with the near complete lack of sidewalks across much of the city, reinforced shoulders, bike lanes, and public transit, and you’ve got a perfect storm for crap infrastructure.
I've been to downtown several times, and it absolutely depends on the time of day. There's literally nothing at all during working hours but when it becomes lunchtime or something similar there's a ton of people on the streets. No need to be so negative about it :/
You realize downtowns are business districts right? There’s almost no point in going to downtown in literally every American city, unless you are looking for entertainment, or nice restaurants. Most people don’t live in downtowns, so there is usually going to be no one on the streets unless it’s during buisness hours. I mean downtown nyc only had 60k people. Not many people live in downtowns
"Walkability" and "Oklahoma" don't have much to do with each other. Oklahoma's cities are new enough that they were built around cars, and generally speaking anyone who can afford to own a car does. If you work downtown you might walk to get lunch, but you probably drive to work. That might change in the future as the younger generation seems reluctant to get their drivers' licenses, but very few places in Oklahoma are truly walkable. Tulsa's traffic is helped out by its road layout. Besides the sensible freeway layout, every half mile or so there's a straight major road. These separate out local traffic from commuter traffic very effectively, and traffic flow balances itself out because residents will choose which road to take based on how busy it usually is. Out east, the roads are narrower, the layout is more chaotic, and major roads become choke points. We don't have that problem in most Oklahoma cities. As far as being southerners, we're not. We're very young as far as states go, and Oklahoma didn't exist until after the civil war. Culturally, we're a blend of a lot of things since Oklahoma was settled in the late 1800s by people from all over the country. We've really got more in common with Kansas and Nebraska than we do with, for example, Mississippi.
I can't believe you didn't mention 412 going East, especially because of how much traffic it has, which is why it is also becoming an Interstate soon!!! You only mentioned 412 to the West!
Oklahoma DOT is not doing that good of a job. The roads suck. And you took your life into your own hands going into North Tulsa. And don’t call OKC our big brother.
Tulsa also has a violent crime rate twice that of NYC or LA, is clearly "red-lined" by I244, and is one of the first cities to criminalize homelessness.
There's absolutely a relation between wealth and having a nice yard. There are many reasons for someone to be poor. Here's a short, non-exhaustive list: - You're retired and have no pension or savings - You're young and just starting out in the job market - You're unlucky, unskilled, loyal to a low paying job, or otherwise unable to attain a decent paying job even if you try - You've got a serious medical condition and no insurance - You fell behind on your child support payments at some point and the government empties your bank account any time you have more than $300 in it - You're disabled, mentally or physically - You don't care about things like having money - You can't handle money - You have a gambling addiction and lose all your money, and thus can't even pay your bills - You've got a drug addiction that takes priority over things like yard care Some of those coincide with "unlikely to keep up with yard care." A widow that's living off her husband's social security, can barely afford food, and uses a walker isn't going to be out there cutting the grass in 100 degree heat. Same with physical disabilities, if they're debilitating enough and you live off of disability checks. People with drug addictions or mental disabilities might not care about keeping up their yard. Whereas someone with money can just "make the problem go away." Money's good at stuff like that. Doesn't work for everything, but it does work for yard care. (I fall under the "don't give a crap about yard care" category. When I was young and poor, my yard looked like crap because I have allergies and don't care what my yard looks like anyway. Once I had money, I started paying someone to do yard care and the problem went away.)
Traffic is getting bad, crime is mid and homelessness and Quick Trip go hand in hand. Should’ve seen Tulsa Stonehenge, police response is getting terrible, quality of care is getting overwhelmed.
As a Tulsan, thank you for calling it what it was. A massacre. Not a race riot. I moved here for college in 2000. Moved abroad for 5yrs and came back. I don’t plan to leave. You summarized the town perfectly. Not without its flaws. Not nice enough to visit but so comfortable you won’t want to leave. I live just east of downtown off 11th st (old rt 66). Love it.
You seem to have overlooked the south part of Tulsa, from 41st street south. You will clearly see congestion on streets like 71st street, 91st street, Memorial Drive, and Yale, especially during work week rush hour. But my main complaint about your discussion of roadways is your failure to mention the toll roads leading into and out of Tulsa. It's almost impossible to enter, or exit from, the city without traveling on some toll road >>> the Cimarron Tpk., the Creek Tpk., the Will Rogers Tpk., the Muskogee Tpk., the Turner Tpk. Tulsa is a nice city. But Oklahoma has more toll roads than any other state in the U.S. It's very annoying for out-of-staters to travel in Oklahoma because of this highway robbery.
Trust me, ODOT is not really doing that good of a job. Maybe in highway planning, but overall maintenance of existing infrastructure is awful and has been for some time. And the city itself is awful with maintenance.
I just moved to Tulsa from Dallas. The Quick Trip locations here are very dirty compared to the Dallas locations. But I do miss 7 Eleven. I wish those there here in Tulsa. Much better. Yeah no traffic, sometimes I'll hear someone complain about local traffic in the neighborhood streets and even that is nothing compared to bigger metros. Tulsa is very behind on upgrading the streets on the south side. They only upgraded the intersections and it's still one lane in both directions in-between the intersections. That is very annoying!
Looks like a great place to drive through but beyond grocery stores downtown looks totally unwalkable/unlivable as evidenced by the lack of people out and about. No urban fabric.
Oklahoma has a car-centric culture. It's pretty much always been this way because we're such a young state. We don't have pre-car infrastructure to worry about, so we don't have a lot of the traffic problems that plague older places.
I just looked and the downtown office vacancy rate is 14 percent or so. That's not great, admittedly, but considering there is a fifty floor building and a 40 floor building in addition to about a dozen other over 20, this isn't too bad. I like going downtown because it isn't crowded, but hardly abandoned. It's definitely a small city but clean.
Restitution denied to the victims of the Greenwood mass, our cries have reached the heavens, revenge is mine says the LORD. Jeremiah 14:2 - Judah mourneth, and the gates thereof languish; they are black unto the ground; and the cry of Jerusalem is gone up.
Not just having QuikTrip, but Tulsa is literally the founding city of QuikTrip.
Quiktrip headquartered in Tulsa, next to the DHS
The brick roads in those extremely walkable sections are very recent. Downtown didn't used to be nearly so people-friendly until a lot of funding was put in to make things pedestrian-centered. It's been a very slow process, but the reason so many people walk around there is because it's the most enjoyable area to just exist in. People talk to each other, interact, events happen there, and stores tend to be locally owned and operated. I'm loving the change and hope that that, coupled with a greater focus on better public transport, can see the Tulsa area truly become a walkable city as in the days of yore. As you say, being completely encircled by highways allows fast travel that doesn't interfere with day to day life within the city. Local grocery stores... oh yes, we'll need those too.
On 11th street (route 66) over around Utica, you can see where the asphalt has chipped away to reveal the underlaying old brick roads that are still there today.
The push for pedestrian infrastructure is amazing cause the people there can't drive.
I visited Tulsa two weeks ago - It is a good city! My favorite part was the Gathering Place park.
While the gathering place is nice, it demonstrates a a greater problem with Oklahoma. Ya see, it was paid for by a rich, oil baron family that has managed to escape being taxed for decades. In states that actually tax industry, places like the gathering place are paid for by the city, and/or state, and that extra money levied by way of taxes ALSO pays for things like roadways, public transit, your fire department, and schools. Oklahoma is a joke state, and should not be looked to as an example of how to do anything right.
@@joshDammmitI’m going to play devil’s advocate- “places like the gathering place”… Gathering Place is pretty darn special and unique. More than just “nice”. It’s not the only park in the world, but few rival it in size, scope and quality. It’d be difficult to replicate it via the process I think you’re advocating for.
@@joshDammmitTulsa is still doing pretty good and the gathering place hasn’t made an effect on the taxes, it just falls into the parks department and hasn’t been too much of an issue. Great prices, great people, great state.
The gathering place sucks. They haven't even cut the grass, its grown wild over there like a jungle.
@@Nobody-pi5dj I like that your name is “nobody”.
Tulsa has a lot more culture than you may realize. You missed the world-class art museums of Philbrook and Gilcrease, while the Woody Guthrie museum is surprisingly good too. There is the Tulsa Symphony, Broadway shows in the Performing Arts Center, and also the Tulsa Ballet. The stunningly beautiful neighborhoods of Maple Ridge and Ranch Acres would have been a nice drive. The art in the many parks such as, “Appeal to the Great Spirit” in Woodward Park and the adjacent rose gardens. There is the huge community Gathering Place and the nearby Oklahoma Aquarium as well. And all the Art Deco buildings downtown are definitely worth checking out, as well as the Frank Lloyd Wright home. You missed the iconic Golden Driller too!
The Air and Space museum and planetarium are good and shows off the Art Deco design of the original airport.
Tulsa is a wonderful place to live and raise a family. I wouldn’t call it a destination place to visit, but while there, you can find plenty of things to see and do for a couple of days.
Go to South Tulsa to find the traffic you didn’t encounter in the downtown on a holiday.
And you’re right, Quick Trip is THE place…get real gas with no ethanol.
I visited Tulsa in 2019 for a work trip. I stayed in the DoubleTree in Downtown. The city had a really interesting, small-town feel. I did get to enjoy some delicious barbecue.
The problem with "small town feel" in a city of over 500 thousand people, is either astronomical rent prices or having to live so far from amenities that you might as well not even bother living there. We should keep the "small town feel" to actual small towns, where it's still a functional way to build.
@@arthurwintersight7868everything you stated is exactly the same problem of my current hometown of Charlotte, North Carolina.
@@dlinkster - The worst part is you get a TON of anti-urban types who think small town is superior to big city... yet they still choose to live in a big city, and then actively sabotage the city after moving in by imposing a development model that loses viability once the population goes above 50k. Yet they're trying to impose that model on a city with 500k people.
@@arthurwintersight7868Except none of that is true of Tulsa. It is an extremely affordable city. “Small town” feel is a bit of a misnomer. When people say it, I think they mean “it’s not Dallas, certainly not Manhattan, and I can get to the other side of the city in 20 minutes”. But it’s a metro area of over a million people that comes with all amenities and is affordable. That isn’t to say we don’t have a shortage of “affordable housing”. Like most cities in America, it is an issue we need to address sooner rather than later.
@andrew5184 every thing is 15 minutes!!! I love it although alot of prices have increased bc of people moving from cali
You missed The Blue Dome district downtown by just a couple of blocks when you drove by the stadium. It's been revitalized into a great restaurant/entertainment district.
Which street is that on?
@@MileageMike485 centered around 2nd and Elgin
@@MileageMike485 you also missed Cherry St. half a mile south of Pearl District, on 15th St. Great little strip of restaurants and bars, with some shopping.
I live in the city of Owasso like 20 minutes from the casino in Catoosa that your passed, and it’s crazy to recognize all the places someone goes in a video for once 😄
love this format of video!
I live in South Tulsa and there is a fair amount of traffic where I live (although not *congestion* as one would see around Atlanta, where I used to live). I’m always kind of shocked at how quiet downtown Tulsa is when I venture up there. I do love the ease of mobility all over Tulsa, although our roads are very much hit or miss.
I did a long weekend in Tulsa as I am an art deco freak and there are lots of art deco buildings in Tulsa. I drove around various parts of the city and never really saw traffic. Also, they have a Del Taco *w*
I was told Tulsa has the second most art deco architecture in the USA behind Miami because of all the 1920s and 1930s oil money. And yes, Del Taco is 2 miles from my parent's house.
Yes, the Art Deco architecture is amazing.
As someone going into infrastructure law, you got me with “state of infrastructure”. This is an amazing video!
I’m from Tulsa, to answer your grocery store question: Just north of that OSU Tulsa campus you drove through is the very poor area of town. Every grocery store they built in downtown or north of downtown was robbed out of business. Over the last ten years downtown has been greatly revitalized and improved, crime has dropped significantly, but they haven’t yet built another grocery store.
As someone who just recently moved back to Tulsa is it me or is crime in general seemingly rapidly dropping in this city? Things seem alot nicer now compared to last time
There's been one north of downtown now for 3-4 years.
@@Maya-ls3ky It's very neighborhood dependent, from what I can tell. I've only been here for 3 or so years, though.
Please do more of these, they’re so interesting! 🥹
MIKE!! Welcome back! We missed you! Thank you for reviewing our to' up @ss streets, again! You almost came up to my neighborhood. I live 2 miles east of downtown, in Midtown next to the Univ of Tulsa. We are walkable, even to downtown and I have 3 grocery stores within walking distance. And bout 6 QTs. 👀
Thank you for featuring Tulsa again. PS. The people here are STILL no-drivin @ss. lol
I grew up in midtown (Roger c/o '05!!), and it's my favorite part of town if I had to choose one.
I moved here from Atlanta and couldn’t be happier living in Owasso. All the advantages of Tulsa plus easy access to some amazing countryside. There’s some amazing preserves you can go to that feel like your in a western movie.
You should check out parts of Oklahoma in the south and the west. You'll be amazed. Most residents don't even now. The mountain areas we have, about 4 different ones, areas that look like Utah, Colorado and even like a mini smokey mountains near Arkansas.
I think I did comment about how Tulsa highway network is well up to date when you did your driving tour of the highways in Tulsa Mileage Mike.
Didn’t think about fact that Tulsa metro is growing at rate that allows its infrastructure to keep up with its growth.
There is a Reasors grocery on fifteenth street aka "cherry street" just outside of the downtown interdispersal loop. Still walkable from parts of downtown, if a bit far. Reasors is partially employee owned and is generally good quality, although the quality has degraded since its most recent aquisition by a Texas family owned chain.
Why was I excited to see a video of Tulsa on this channel? I have no clue since Tulsa isn’t very touristy, for a lack of a better term. I had the opportunity to visit Tulsa for a week during a convention back in April. I had the opportunity to go to travel parts of Route 66 and see some of the gimmick attractions, drive freely on the interstates and freeways, and walk freely in the downtown area near the BOK Center. For a city with not much going on, it actually has alot of potential. All of the restaurants I went to in the downtown area are literally the best I’ve ever been to. Really great food and wonderful service with a smile. All of the neighborhoods along the Arkansas River seem to be very nice and lively as I saw many people going on walks and having picnics in local parks. What you said about The Pearl comparing it to Little Five Points in Atlanta is exactly what I said when I drove through that area as well. All in all, there’s not much going on in Tulsa yet, but it definitely has its potential for bustling economic growth and it seems to have the infrastructure to handle it when the time comes.
@@yaboyjojo9361 There were still a few attractions that you missed. Did you get to visit Oral Roberts University or The Gathering Place?
@@highway2heaven91 i got to drive by the university while leaving Sapulpa. I didn’t get to go to The Gathering Place.
@@yaboyjojo9361 ORU is a little... strange, but the gathering place is a must if/when you're back here. It's an amazing park.
Tulsa has an incredibly vibrant live music scene. It's mostly on the edges of downtown and in the arts district.
Doesn't sound like you went very far IMO . No Gilcrease or Philbrook museums. No Woodward park or Utica area. No south tulsa . No Riverside Dr. You didn't skim the serfice. But I give you the benefit you were time constrained.
Love this new format
i love discovering US with you Mike! especially that I'm from Turkey and couldn't even name a city in Oklahoma back before discover your channel ❤
Next time youre in Tulsa check out Riverside and the gathering place, brook side, and cherry Street. Other walkable areas.
Keep em coming Mileage Mike! 💪🏾💯
Dig the addition of a new format to mix things up. Maybe when you get a few more cities under your belt you could do a sort of ‘Mileage Mike’ ranking.
Could be a good idea
100% agree, this series is fantastic, gets us a little taste of what the city looks like and what's around, and the commentary really adds a lot of context to what we're seeing!
@@MileageMike485 honestly this is a great format cuz most ppl dont show what outside of downtown looks like. Cant wait for the okc one, born and raised here
Unpopular but serious opinion: QuikTrip is laps better than Buckee’s
Buckee’s is a cult, dude, it’s insane. Extremely overhyped place.
You’re literally out of your goddamn mind.
Unpopular doesn’t mean you’re wrong!
nah Buckee’s on top
Very unpopular opinion. And an opinion at that…😂
One of the benefits of Oklahoma is that we’re not in the center of attention like Houston so we can keep up with growth (for now)
The good side about not being so well-known. Plus I like how slow-paced Oklahoma is. We're more chilled and laid back
Tulsa, corporate home of QuikTrip.
And Daylight Donuts
Down town is by far the least trafficked area in the city the further south you go the busier it gets especially on the Broken Arrow Expressway
Yeah southern growth has been insane in the last decade alone
It is a great place to live, affordable, and quite.
I have been living here for 5 years.
Thank you for your perspective. Living here I get frustrated quickly with what feels like a lack of forward thinking in city planning. It’s good to know from a person not from here that maybe it’s not so bad. Great video!
I am in OKC and do not visit Tulsa much but as someone who has lived in OKC for the past couple of years what I can tell you is that it is a very car dependent city. Downtown OKC is much like Downtown Tulsa with a bit more skyscrapers and is very walkable like you mentioned in the video. I am honestly quite happy with the downtown OKC and Bricktown areas and think the city did a good job with the infrastructure. Now once you go outside downtown into almost any other part of Oklahoma City you will find out real fast that to get around quick you need a car or to uber as our public transit systems need some work to say the least.
In OKC your only choice of public transit is the bus (and while Stitt is in office that's all there will be as he has stated as much) and we do have a rapid bus which is improvement but if you need to get to other places not on that route it can be a pain to navigate and get around. Every other bus that is not the rapid takes quite a while to get somewhere and a 10-20 minute car ride can take you almost an hour on the bus. I think that if OKC improved its transit times significantly to where a 20min car ride only takes 30min by bus then you will have a lot more people who see public transit as viable and as a result have fewer vehicles on the roads. OKC is a lot more congested with traffic depending on time of day and where you are and is a pretty fast growing city so you only ever see more and more vehicles on the roads. To add on to this because of how bad public transit is you have it being stigmatized and stereotyped and so this only adds to the car dependent nature of the city.
Also when it comes to walkability, even simple things like walking to a park for example can become really dangerous real fast depending on how far of a walk or where you are located within the city. I live next to one of the biggest parks in the city and there is virtually zero infrastructure like sidewalks or safe areas (besides other properties or businesses) for people to walk without being arms length from vehicles going 30+mph so that is another downside to OKC. Other than that though Oklahoma City is a pretty cheap place to live and if I had a lot more income I would be living elsewhere but it is far from the worst place to be. I know this video was about Tulsa but just wanted to share my thoughts about OKC and if you post a video about OKC I will likely just put this comment there instead. Great video though!
10:23 I grew up in this neighborhood. If you would have turned left at the white building, you would have been driving down my street. It was a pleasant surprise to see you driving around the part of the city where I grew up. :)
If only we could get that here in Midwest City and OKC. Would be nice.
I’m from Tulsa, I’ve lived here 34 years, the reason we don’t have a downtown grocery store is because until a few years ago no one lived downtown it was a place for business and no one wanted a grocery store there and it had a very high crime rate and homeless population, when I was a kid you didn’t go downtown at night unless you were crazy/dealing drugs or going to a hockey game or something, it’s weird to see how nice it’s become in the last decade, and now people are building apartments and we’re getting transplants from New York or similar that want to live down town. I go downtown a lot lately because of various things and there is still a homeless population and some crime but it’s far from the war zone it was in the 90’s and they’re trying to make it a place that rich people used to living in a penthouse would actually want to move to, I think we’re going to see more of this in Tulsa as time goes on, next time if you want a better view of the city, I’d suggest going to the Utica square are and the area around phillbrook museum to see some of Tulsas oil Barron homes from back in the day and go take a drive down admiral to see the poor side of town and 71st to see the new money side of town. I live in midtown Tulsa by the fair grounds and it’s very nice and middle class nothing much to see that you didn’t show, but you missed the highs and lows of Tulsa by not doing these other three. I’ve lived in a couple cities and I always come back to Tulsa because of family and it’s a good town. I’d highly recommend moving here if you’re fed up with wherever you are, we’re a blue city in a very red state and I think we balance things well as a result, Tulsa is the weird gay uncle of cities in Oklahoma and I couldn’t imagine living anywhere else in Oklahoma as a result.
Another great upload by "Mileage Mike".
My city Utrecht (Holland) has roughly the same amount of citizens, but the layout is completely different. Tulsa looks like it is going well, nice drive and commentary.
The BlackWall Street area ran north on Greenwood Ave, from Archer Street to Pine Street. The 1970s soul funk group GAP Band took their name from these roads to honor the Black Wall Street.
I feel like you didn’t do Tulsa justice. You only stayed around downtown and didn’t see anything outside of that
it looks clean
Thank you Mileage Mike for giving my city such a wonderful infracture video!!! we sweep the streets every night with huge street sweepers, and we have a clean city. thanks---------Rex
Should visit again and spend more time here. Springtime is nice
Hopefully the new theme park will give Tulsa more recognition.
@@dvferyance Hopefully it does, sadly the theme park is actually an hour away in Vinita.
Tulsa- what I wish Fort Worth was sill like.
@@MicahThomason Tulsa is like Fort Worth without its twin (Dallas).
Love this channel and professionally set content. I don’t consider Tulsa “southern”, but it’s more akin to midwestern/southwestern living.
no, Tulsa is definitely Southern. Oklahoma City is the combination Midwestern/Southwestern. You can even tell by the speaking, Tulsan's have a southern twank whereas OKC people are more midwest and western.
@@us1fedvet It depends on who you ask. Most Tulsans consider themselves Midwestern but most people in the real Midwest (Indiana, Ohio, Michigan, etc.) would probably call Tulsa Southern. I haven’t heard it referred to as “Southwestern” except online.
Personally, I think Tulsa has no regional identification. It’s just itself. For example, look at the stores and restaurants. There are no Culver’s locations in Tulsa, so it’s not Midwestern. No Bojangles or Krystal locations and only one Waffle House, so not really Southern. No In N Out, which rules out Southwestern. Instead it has Braum’s, which is mostly exclusive to Oklahoma. Tulsa also has plenty of other chains that aren’t even in OKC (Mazzio’s, Reasor’s Grocery Stores, Daylight Donuts, etc.)
@@rchilde1
youve never been to vicksburg, have you?
@@rchilde1 nah, it’s Oklahoma no matter what. Tulsa sits closer to Missouri and Kansas than Ok City which is “north north Texas”. Regardless, neither considers itself “southern”. I do recommend that you sample an Oklahoma onion burger preferably at SIDS in El Reno. You’ll thank me. Cheers!
@@rchilde1Tulsa feels more like Kansas City or St. Louis than like New Orleans or Birmingham. Southeastern Oklahoma is the only part of the state that feels southern.
I lived in Downtown Tulsa for a year. There's a lot of bars if you're into that. I wish there had been a grocery store so that you wouldn't have to drive to get groceries. Another big problem in downtown is the homeless population. There are entire camps of homeless in Tulsa downtown. People high on drugs, walking around screaming. It was the first place that I had seen human shit on the ground while walking around. There are bridges that people sleep under as well, making it feel very unsafe.
The gathering place and the trails there are also full of the homeless, and I had almost been robbed once or twice while trying to walk it. Tulsa would be amazing if it wasn't for the homeless tbh, people taking up public areas and claiming them as their residence for free.
I'm not sure any city has really figured out how to effectively deal with the homeless. You see 'em in red states and blue states alike. Hawaii is teaming with them.
I hear lots of ideas but I still see 'em almost everywhere I go.
That "Big Box Home Depot" has always been in downtown, as you can tell by the architecture. Not always as a Home Depot though; it started as a Warehouse Market (a local grocery chain which is all but gone now).
I love my hometown. You should come back sometime and spend a few days check out the other districts in town, like Cherry Street, Brookside and South Tulsa.
First shot: the BOK arena. Saw Springsteen there Feb. 2023. Tulsa is a city not without its charms. My long time social Media friend Paula lives there and we finally got to meet.
Not having a real grocery downtown is a drag. There's a DGX (dollar general X) on Boston, but QT's almost got a better grocery selection.
There's a Reasor's at 15th and Lewis, which is the closest grocery.
I do know two people who live downtown without a car.
Great video on Tulsa.
Tulsa has more personality than okc and definitely has a more southern feel. It is the largest small town you can live in here in the usa
Awesome video. Subbed!
Downtown Tulsa went though it's "Urban Renewal" phase in the late 60's and early 70's that's why we have such "good" highways because they erased anything that was an "eyesore", starting in the 90's the city embarked on its gentrification of downtown and surrounding areas; anything that looks newer than 1990 was built on the vacant lots left over from urban renewal, anything that looks older than 1990 is what survived. It's looks nice but that's only because they pushed the poorer and homeless people out to other parts of the city, after business hours it's mostly populated by hipsters eating overpriced, mediocre food or blowing their rent money on overpriced tickets to some event at the BOK center.
Good point. Urban renewal hurt Greenwood
Or blowing their money on bars in blue dome
Your timeline is essentially correct, but what a reductive, pessimistic take. It looks nice because the community has invested billions of dollars in efforts to revitalize the area and to address the ills of the past. Oh, and by the way, there are still plenty of homeless downtown that need our help.
@andrew No, Tulsa is a shithole. The worst schools, corrupt cops, tweakers outside every gas station, along with a bunch of pedophiles. I grew up and lived in various parts of Tulsa. It is all shit. But most of Oklahoma is anyways.
you would hate driving in houston. there are so many issues here
It's probably too late but you should have stopped by El Reno and Yukon Oklahoma. Yukon is Oklahoma city's bedroom community. El Reno is where all the oil field and all the working class live that work in Oklahoma City and Yukon.
He'll do OKC next.
@@rchilde1 oh I know he'll do Oklahoma City. But I'm sure that this video and that video is not a real time video. That storm that he just went through I think happened about 2 maybe 3 weeks ago. He's on to the next state by now
Maybe if they would fix the constantly failing streets and Water mains
Their Main Street through downtown looks very walkable and the area near the baseball stadium. Much of the rest of it, I’m less sure about. I think I made mention of all the parking lots in the last video where this footage appears without voiceover. Sure, if there are sidewalks everywhere, one can walk places, but with the presence of so many surface parking lots, is there a critical mass of places that people would want or need to go to in order to make it a place where one would want to walk? There’s no grocery store there in Downtown, so for living there, not so much, I’d imagine.
The residential neighborhoods you visited remind me a lot of neighborhoods in the Kansas City Metro. Lot sizes and houses looked exactly the same.
Did you really say QT is the best gas station? Meh. QuickChek, Royal Farms, Casey’s (their newer ones), Love’s, and Wawa are all better, IMO.
@@kesschristopher I would say Archer and Greenwood streets are pretty walkable as well but they weren’t featured in this video. The most “walkable “ areas of Tulsa are Brookside, Cherry Street and 11th Street.
@@appleicatpromax7069where u from
Oklahoma cities were built around cars, and walking isn't part of our culture. Step outside of downtown Tulsa and you'll find out real quick you need a car to get anywhere (or take the bus, but I honestly don't know how good Tulsa's bus system is).
That might change though since the younger generation seems to be less eager to learn to drive, but then again we're a very red state and there's little support for public transit so maybe not.
@@jeffspaulding9834 Tulsa’s bus system is abysmal but it is slightly better than it was in the early 2010s. As far as I know, the majority of the younger generation still prefers to drive but there are tiny pockets of younger people that live car-lite or even car free.
@@highway2heaven91 I'm sure the majority do, but it seems like a lot larger percentage of kids are waiting until they're older (20+) to get their licenses, and some of them just aren't getting them at all. Which is just bizarre to me - almost everyone my age got them as soon as they turned 16.
I don't have any numbers, though - it's based around how many people I knew without licenses when I was young vs how many young people I see without them today. My group might be an outlier.
Stayed at the exact same hotel when I came to Tulsa back in April
Nice. Solid location.
Each of the major hotel groups has a listed building downtown, and they can be inexpensive enough to justify an upgrade. Tulsa Club, Atlas Life, Ambassador: Hilton, Marriott, Hyatt. There's also the Brut, which was converted from a brutalist concrete apartment block.
As a resident of the city this is a decently accurate representation of the city. Only thing that is slightly off is the traffic. We have pretty good traffic control but in my experiences, it can get decently congested at times. You must've gotten lucky. It definitely has miles better traffic than most cities in the USA though. The storm thing is the most accurate though lol
Spend some time in Dallas or Houston and you'll never have a problem with Tulsa traffic again :)
@@jeffspaulding9834 Trust me I've been there, it's absolutely horrid traffic. Thankfully our traffic is a 100+ times better
Cool video thanks
The traffic here is smooth, unless of course you take the BA expressway to commute, like most tulsans. anyone going to or from downtown, south tulsa, broken arrow, bixby, or even out down by muskogee will be using that during rush hour. it’s not pleasant
not really sure that Tulsa/OK qualifies as South?
While many citizens of the US wouldn’t consider Tulsa, OK as part of the American South, the US Census Bureau considers the state of Oklahoma as part of the American South. So by default, Tulsa, OK is a southern city and metro.
-Lifelong Cocoa, FL resident
@@ace20016
who gives af what the census bureau thinks
@@Gravitatis Well to some people, they go by what the US Census Bureau defines what region a state and/or cities is in. Including myself.
Trust me, there are more than enough sh*tkickers and rednecks here to qualify as "South"
@@ace20016
if the census bureau told you a circle was a triangle, would you believe them?
Tisdale Parkway is named for the father of the basketball player/musician Wayman Tisdale. When he played for my Sacramento Kings I called him "Tisale" because he played no D(efense)
I moved to Tulsa in 2003. It has improved a lot due to the Vision 2025 plan. The streets were in a lot worse shape. There was no BOK staium, and there was a less nice minor league stadium outside of downtown at the fairgrounds. You missed the Blue Dome District and the Gathering Place.
Not only does Tulsa have Quik Trip, it was and founded there and is headquartered there.
At 5:32, referring to “parcels and setbacks” you definitely are a former development engineer like myself lmao😅
Tulsa has its problems like any other city but it is cheap and a nice place to live you like a quiet city.
Tulsa refutes the notion that freeway and interstate growth only invites more traffic congestion. Clearly enough was built to tame it.
@@LawrenceMarkFearon He didn’t mention that US 75 can get congested during rush hour. Unlike in other cities, one more lane should actually fix it. If not, there are other routes that one can take.
why would an interstate cause congestion
@@Gravitatis because some people [not me] have the theory that more interstate lane capacity attracts more people to the interstate and off the side roads. I believe the opposite- if enough interstate lanes are built congestion will be eliminated.
@@appleicatpromax7069awful? Compared to what ?
@@appleicatpromax7069 Dang, you must have a vendetta against Tulsa. I visited about a month ago from Dallas and believe me, Tulsa traffic was NOTHING compared to DFW. I definitely do NOT disagree with the third world cities having better transit infrastructure though... Bangkok and pretty much anywhere in Japan has great transit and walkability, but they are way bigger and different than most american cities.
When are you dropping the Oklahoma City video?
This week
The Home Depot has been downtown a LONG time, it predates the revival of downtown. 20yrs ago, downtown Tulsa was a ghost town.
Quiktrip is from tulsa ;)
Tulsa, and Oklahoma at large, has some of the WORST roads in the country. Not only are they poorly maintained, but when roadworks do take place, they take literal years to complete.
Couple all of that with the near complete lack of sidewalks across much of the city, reinforced shoulders, bike lanes, and public transit, and you’ve got a perfect storm for crap infrastructure.
Tulsa King, staring Sylvester Stallone.
He daughta *HOTT*
And also episodes of the tv show "First 48".
You can run into bad weather anywhere not just Oklahoma.
Notice how there’s not one pedestrian in “walkable” downtown.
Depends on the time of day. Brookside, Cherry Street and 11th have a lot more pedestrians.
I've been to downtown several times, and it absolutely depends on the time of day. There's literally nothing at all during working hours but when it becomes lunchtime or something similar there's a ton of people on the streets. No need to be so negative about it :/
@@appleicatpromax7069 Huh? I've literally been there dozens of times, and every time there's always a number of pedestrians. Where you from?
Each section of downtown has different busy times and can be pretty empty during their off hours.
You realize downtowns are business districts right? There’s almost no point in going to downtown in literally every American city, unless you are looking for entertainment, or nice restaurants.
Most people don’t live in downtowns, so there is usually going to be no one on the streets unless it’s during buisness hours.
I mean downtown nyc only had 60k people. Not many people live in downtowns
Our soccer team doesn't play in the BOK, they play at ONEOK Field.
if you ever want the tour thats my city lmk
You haven't been here at 5 p.m.
"Walkability" and "Oklahoma" don't have much to do with each other. Oklahoma's cities are new enough that they were built around cars, and generally speaking anyone who can afford to own a car does. If you work downtown you might walk to get lunch, but you probably drive to work. That might change in the future as the younger generation seems reluctant to get their drivers' licenses, but very few places in Oklahoma are truly walkable.
Tulsa's traffic is helped out by its road layout. Besides the sensible freeway layout, every half mile or so there's a straight major road. These separate out local traffic from commuter traffic very effectively, and traffic flow balances itself out because residents will choose which road to take based on how busy it usually is. Out east, the roads are narrower, the layout is more chaotic, and major roads become choke points. We don't have that problem in most Oklahoma cities.
As far as being southerners, we're not. We're very young as far as states go, and Oklahoma didn't exist until after the civil war. Culturally, we're a blend of a lot of things since Oklahoma was settled in the late 1800s by people from all over the country. We've really got more in common with Kansas and Nebraska than we do with, for example, Mississippi.
I can't believe you didn't mention 412 going East, especially because of how much traffic it has, which is why it is also becoming an Interstate soon!!! You only mentioned 412 to the West!
Am I the only one that thinks Tulsa looks like Austin without all the people and traffic? 🤔
Looks like Austin with no life and 80% parking
Oklahoma DOT is not doing that good of a job. The roads suck. And you took your life into your own hands going into North Tulsa.
And don’t call OKC our big brother.
Tulsa also has a violent crime rate twice that of NYC or LA, is clearly "red-lined" by I244, and is one of the first cities to criminalize homelessness.
CA and NYC doesn't even report on a lot of the crime thats happening anymore because they changed their laws.
Your lying democrat 😂😂😂😂😂
@paulmiller6378 These statistics are easy to check. Can you do that?
How your property is upkept has nothing to do with your income.
There's absolutely a relation between wealth and having a nice yard.
There are many reasons for someone to be poor. Here's a short, non-exhaustive list:
- You're retired and have no pension or savings
- You're young and just starting out in the job market
- You're unlucky, unskilled, loyal to a low paying job, or otherwise unable to attain a decent paying job even if you try
- You've got a serious medical condition and no insurance
- You fell behind on your child support payments at some point and the government empties your bank account any time you have more than $300 in it
- You're disabled, mentally or physically
- You don't care about things like having money
- You can't handle money
- You have a gambling addiction and lose all your money, and thus can't even pay your bills
- You've got a drug addiction that takes priority over things like yard care
Some of those coincide with "unlikely to keep up with yard care." A widow that's living off her husband's social security, can barely afford food, and uses a walker isn't going to be out there cutting the grass in 100 degree heat. Same with physical disabilities, if they're debilitating enough and you live off of disability checks. People with drug addictions or mental disabilities might not care about keeping up their yard.
Whereas someone with money can just "make the problem go away." Money's good at stuff like that. Doesn't work for everything, but it does work for yard care.
(I fall under the "don't give a crap about yard care" category. When I was young and poor, my yard looked like crap because I have allergies and don't care what my yard looks like anyway. Once I had money, I started paying someone to do yard care and the problem went away.)
when you say QT is the best gas station ... i hate them b/c they're too colse to my residence
lazy dont want to cook but am hungry 3 min walk to QT
Wichita is unfortunately the exact same when it comes to a downtown grocery desert.
Traffic is getting bad, crime is mid and homelessness and Quick Trip go hand in hand. Should’ve seen Tulsa Stonehenge, police response is getting terrible, quality of care is getting overwhelmed.
Way better road condition than NC
As a Tulsan, thank you for calling it what it was. A massacre. Not a race riot.
I moved here for college in 2000. Moved abroad for 5yrs and came back. I don’t plan to leave. You summarized the town perfectly. Not without its flaws. Not nice enough to visit but so comfortable you won’t want to leave. I live just east of downtown off 11th st (old rt 66). Love it.
Thought dis was gonna B 1 a yo typical *B Roll* videoz
You seem to have overlooked the south part of Tulsa, from 41st street south. You will clearly see congestion on streets like 71st street, 91st street, Memorial Drive, and Yale, especially during work week rush hour. But my main complaint about your discussion of roadways is your failure to mention the toll roads leading into and out of Tulsa. It's almost impossible to enter, or exit from, the city without traveling on some toll road >>> the Cimarron Tpk., the Creek Tpk., the Will Rogers Tpk., the Muskogee Tpk., the Turner Tpk. Tulsa is a nice city. But Oklahoma has more toll roads than any other state in the U.S. It's very annoying for out-of-staters to travel in Oklahoma because of this highway robbery.
No way. They want to be the capital, but feign responsability especially when it counts to people just look at housing there.
Trust me, ODOT is not really doing that good of a job. Maybe in highway planning, but overall maintenance of existing infrastructure is awful and has been for some time. And the city itself is awful with maintenance.
I just moved to Tulsa from Dallas. The Quick Trip locations here are very dirty compared to the Dallas locations. But I do miss 7 Eleven. I wish those there here in Tulsa. Much better. Yeah no traffic, sometimes I'll hear someone complain about local traffic in the neighborhood streets and even that is nothing compared to bigger metros. Tulsa is very behind on upgrading the streets on the south side. They only upgraded the intersections and it's still one lane in both directions in-between the intersections. That is very annoying!
Looks like a great place to drive through but beyond grocery stores downtown looks totally unwalkable/unlivable as evidenced by the lack of people out and about. No urban fabric.
Oklahoma has a car-centric culture. It's pretty much always been this way because we're such a young state. We don't have pre-car infrastructure to worry about, so we don't have a lot of the traffic problems that plague older places.
Western Central ….
northwest arkansas is growing almost 3x faster than tulsa 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔
Cnbc's *Bentonville?*
Quick trip is trash. Just one of many corporations that used to be good but grew too large. smh
Looks dead
I just looked and the downtown office vacancy rate is 14 percent or so. That's not great, admittedly, but considering there is a fifty floor building and a 40 floor building in addition to about a dozen other over 20, this isn't too bad. I like going downtown because it isn't crowded, but hardly abandoned. It's definitely a small city but clean.
dead? you should visit pine bluff
@@stevepalmberg5905 He went during the wrong time of day.
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Well, fwiw, there have been no changes to the Tulsa skyline since 1984.
Restitution denied to the victims of the Greenwood mass, our cries have reached the heavens, revenge is mine says the LORD.
Jeremiah 14:2 - Judah mourneth, and the gates thereof languish; they are black unto the ground; and the cry of Jerusalem is gone up.
im not sure if it was the city of Tulsa that burned down Greenwood.