Eric the best advice is to start smoking them. I use to do the same thing collecting alot of cigars and filling up all my humidors so now I just smoke them! Time to get all the guys and girls together and have a few herfs. Life is short so enjoy those cigars!🔥💨
I can't agree more. I have stopped buying (for the most part) and am just smoking. I got on a kick of getting "deal's I couldn't pass up", so now I have stopped looking and am focusing on what I already have. And now with Covid, it's not like it used to be with large cigar night gatherings. But you did hit the nail on the head!
Great advice. Plus, some cigars age like bread. I picked up a Hamlet 25th Anniversary cigar at a Rocky Patel event that had some age on it and it was the most vile, acrid cigar I've ever had 😂 Probably should have been smoked as soon as they got it in!
I think its just one of those "what am I in the mood for today" things. It is amazing how fast your collection can grow. And to be honest, I never really thought too much about having too many sticks in the humi...but I believe that is a bulk of my problems.
I have been on both sides of that exact conversation. Some say never mix and some say it really doesn't matter. My view is that I am already putting all of my cigars in a cedar lined box...that should make the sticks all have a cedar flavor. But it doesn't seem to, at least not to a level of causing a problem. So I go with the method of same humidor, separate drawers. So far I have not noticed any cross flavoring in the last 20 years. I do want to get another matching humi to do that...one for infused and one for non...but not because I have really noticed a cross contamination issue. I will do some research and talk to a few commercial humidor admins I know to get their take on it. Appreciate the feedback for sure.
Another idea. All the cigars are in the same location in the trays (front butted). Try this, one tray cigars pushed to front of try, next tray at the rear? Or, all cigars centered on tray. May mix up airflow and change the pressure of unit. But smaller stash in the unit is a good start. also the wraps do lessen airflow so a reposition may help
I’ve just got a winedor and I don’t know if i mostereized the drawners too much because after i did it the winedor started leaking. Did you have this kind of issue? Congrats on your channel🇧🇷👍
@@charutostop8405 f it is dripping at the back under the fan...that is normal. You should only wipe the cedar with a damp cloth with distilled water. It should look dry again in a few hours. If you did over moisten the cedar, you can leave the humi door open until the wood drys out a little.
Too many cigars is the first thing I thought of. Cooling should still be an issue. Can't fight atmospheric properties. I have about 700 cigars in a stand up freezer that I leave off and have to humidify only in the winter a few times. I am in NY and the humidor temp will get in the low 80's in the summer but, so far no problems with anything. Holding at 70RH almost all the time. It's been about 5 years. I would be more afraid of RH than higher Temps unless you going above 82°. Just trying to help. Great channel. Good luck.
Really appreciate the info. It is great to hear what is or ins't working for someone else. I was getting many moths of 85 temps, so I figured I better solve that before I lost my collection. But now I feel like I traded on issue for another. But I am still plugging away at a solution!
I'm doing the exact same thing. I was already running a couple of tupperdors but my New Air was still filling up cause I didn't differentiate between cheap sticks and ones I didn't like much and the harder to find, expensive, and ones I love. So I'm recalibrating all my hygrometers, reseasoming the ceder and pulling out the cheap ones and duds to throw in one of the tupperdors that has some space.
I finally had to adopt a strategy...I stopped buying and started smoking! I also started giving away the sticks I rally don't love to friends. That gave me enough room to start buying a few things here and there of the sticks I really like.
Great start and good job....one more thing to consider is to take your excel and lay it on its side facing the glass door so that your humidity is hitting the glass and going straight up to the top of your humidor. Reason for this is because you have the fan blocked which cuts down circulation. I know it sounds crazy but I saw another guy on UA-cam use this method so I tried it and my humidor (same as your) stays at 70%.
I will see what I can do. The only issue is that on this 3.0 model, one side is the power cord and the other is the air intake. So perhaps I can put it right in front of the glass sitting parallel. Maybe then it will still direct the air flow up the glass.
I would also suggest adding vent holes to the back of your drawers. I have a 250 count newair and bought drawers with vent holes in the back to help the air flow through each drawer. The Oasis plus should also help as it pushes more humidity through the system.
Thanks for the info! I know there is a guy that makes custom cedar drawers to your own specs. I think he does add more ventilation. I can easily drill out some holes in the back if I can't resolve this issue.
Too May Cigars! A problem I wish I had.... This damn heat is supposed to go on until sometime next week! I Have been thinking about making a coolidor to get started with, but i think this heat will be problematic. Great video!!
Same here, i need to stop looking online to prevent me from buying more. My ocd can get out of hand and am tempted to buy more. My last purchase are the cubans box of HDM Epic2 and H.Upmann Mag 50. So im here looking for advice when/how to stop 🤦🏻♂️.
I simply made a rule for myself...I need to smoke more than I buy. My stash got so big I filled my fridge humi and had to set up a Tupperware humi. I must have had over 700 cigars at one time. I also started giving my friends gift packs of cigars...usually a zip lock bag with 5-6 cigars. Mostly of cigars I 'grew' out of liking as much and where just taking up room. I am now way more selective of what I buy. I am now down to under 400 cigars in my stash. And still smoking more than I buy.
@@SoCalCigars - i appreciate the advice. Im gonna look at that route as well. I have some infused, some good ones and the not so much, i also like to share with friends and coworkers. I just need to keep smoking them. Thanks for sharing the vid! 👍🏼
Just purchased a Cleavelander humi (250 capacity)... placed 2 large BOVEDA packs (72 & 69) and two smaller 72's, set temperature at 66 (highest it will go) and waited for one week. I placed loose cigars and some in boxes, approximately 100 or so, took out the little packs and only left the two large ones. My temp stays at 66F and the humidity solid at 67/68 which is just where i want it.... I had the same set up in my two wooden humis and the humidity solid at 68 with the Bovida packs... of course the temp moved around since it followed ambient. Swear by Boveda, maybe you should try them....
Thanks for the info. I for sure have Boveda in my sights if I can't get the current set up to work. Sounds like your nice and dialed in! My unit also only goes up to 66. Wish they went up to 70 just for more flexibility.
As you start trying new cigars, you will begin to better understand your preferred flavor profile and can target getting good deals on exactly what like. That 20 will grow for sure. Its a great thing to enjoy and relax with.
I think the way you left so many slats open for circulation will most certainly help. I think your problem will be solved there. The only other problem I see is the coolidor. I doubt very seriously if it is air tight. Your not gonna beable to hold rh level in there. In the past what I have done is use tuperdors and Boveda packs. I would put them in the coolest place in the house, ie, a closet or basement. Or put the tuperdors into a cooler. Your air tight problem solved. Or use a heavy zip lock bags in a coolidor. Put a Boveda pack in each bag. I've had great luck doing these things. Either way, I wish you luck, I'm sure your wineador problem is solved.
Ya Mike...I am worried as well about that cooler working as it is not exactly air tight with all the zippers. I will see how it does for a few days and will then attack that. I may have to get a 10 pack of Boveda's and Ziploc them up! Thanks for the input. Much appreciated.
Hey Jack! I am going to try this. I have it now on the bottom and toward the glass door. But this is true and may offer some help for the top of the unit. Will keep you posted.
That's a great question! Many things were sales and deals...many gifts...and plenty out of my own pocket. Even at $5 per stick...It's at least about $3000.
got to this stage a few months ago and had to buy an even bigger wineador,🤣 now i have one for cubans and one for non cubans. i use boveda and mine stay a steady 65
That is on the table for me too. I would like a matching unit...one for infused and one for non. I will see how it goes and may need to just pull the trigger on that second unit!
Awesome collection, but I've always been told you shouldn't keep infused cigars with standard cigars. Be careful with your coolador remember the purpose of a humidor should be air tight.
I have heard and been told that many times. From my over 30 years of experience...I have not experienced a transfer of flavor from infused to non-infused in any of my humidors. I have also observed that every walk-in humidor in a cigar retail shop has both infused and non in the same space. They do not maintain two separate walk-in humidors, leading me to believe they are not too concerned either. If the pro's aren't even concerned, I am not either. I would say though, if it does concern anyone and they can keep them separate...no harm in that.
To be honest...they were a gift and I have no way to verify the source. I have smoked several and they seem legit enough. I would say that if they are fakes...they are pretty decent fakes! I did cut one open to verify they were not a nasty Cuban sandwich. I have heard of horror stories of rat poop and human hair in some fakes. These at least seemed fairly well made with decent tobacco and no weird extras.
I mean no disrespect. I’ve heard you mention doing everything except, either buying a second Wineador or simply purchasing a larger refrigerated cigar humidor...
I probably haven't in a video but say that often in comment replies. I an very interested in getting a matching unit and would have one for infused and one for non. I wl be putting out a new update this weekend and will mention that. Thanks for the input...much appreciated!
@Blue Savage I will keep you posted. I will either get a matching additional unit...or one larger unit. So you will be the first to know if I end up selling this one.
I do have one as an overflow humidor. The main issue I run in to is controlling the temp. It has been very easy to control the humidity in Tupperware though.
So in the end...what finally worked... unfortunately ...was to unplug the humidor and not have it cool. Defeats the whole purpose. I now only plug it in on those hot days for a short time. It simply seems that when cooling the air, you pull humidity.
I was concerned about the same thing. To my surprise, it is holding perfect humidity! I think its because I have a tray of Heartfelt beads in there that is way more than needed. But, so far so good. Appreciate he comment!
LOL...I guess it's all relative! I have friends that maybe have 15 cigars and they are all stocked up and good to go. I also have friends with enough cigars to start a small cigar shop. So I think for me as just one guy who really only smokes a couple a week...I have more than enough! My problem is I can't pass up a good deal!
Eric the best advice is to start smoking them. I use to do the same thing collecting alot of cigars and filling up all my humidors so now I just smoke them! Time to get all the guys and girls together and have a few herfs. Life is short so enjoy those cigars!🔥💨
I can't agree more. I have stopped buying (for the most part) and am just smoking. I got on a kick of getting "deal's I couldn't pass up", so now I have stopped looking and am focusing on what I already have. And now with Covid, it's not like it used to be with large cigar night gatherings. But you did hit the nail on the head!
@@SoCalCigars no more cigar nights because of Covid might be the saddest thing I’ve read all year… smoke one for freedom and Liberty
Great advice. Plus, some cigars age like bread. I picked up a Hamlet 25th Anniversary cigar at a Rocky Patel event that had some age on it and it was the most vile, acrid cigar I've ever had 😂 Probably should have been smoked as soon as they got it in!
Great collection!
Thanks for listening to your subscribers and for doing the experimenting for us.
My pleasure! I am hoping that by collaborating on an issue...a solution can be found that we all benefit from. Appreciate you watching!
Wow I would get anxiety figuring out what I wanted to smoke each time.🤣 impressive collection
I think its just one of those "what am I in the mood for today" things. It is amazing how fast your collection can grow. And to be honest, I never really thought too much about having too many sticks in the humi...but I believe that is a bulk of my problems.
Living in California with Gavin as your governor has got to be the worst thing about this video 😂
You're got that right!!
Wow your definitely stacked up very nice collection, good to see you freed up the space.
I think I need to smoke more and buy less for a while! So far freeing up the space has helped for sure. I will post an update this weekend.
Yeah, I would definitely put those infused sticks in their own humidor.
exactly what I was thinking.
@@brettkelly8301 Ditto
I have been on both sides of that exact conversation. Some say never mix and some say it really doesn't matter. My view is that I am already putting all of my cigars in a cedar lined box...that should make the sticks all have a cedar flavor. But it doesn't seem to, at least not to a level of causing a problem. So I go with the method of same humidor, separate drawers. So far I have not noticed any cross flavoring in the last 20 years. I do want to get another matching humi to do that...one for infused and one for non...but not because I have really noticed a cross contamination issue. I will do some research and talk to a few commercial humidor admins I know to get their take on it. Appreciate the feedback for sure.
See the reply I made to this thread...would dig hearing your take on it for sure.
See the reply I made to this thread...would dig hearing your take on it for sure.
Another idea. All the cigars are in the same location in the trays (front butted). Try this, one tray cigars pushed to front of try, next tray at the rear? Or, all cigars centered on tray. May mix up airflow and change the pressure of unit. But smaller stash in the unit is a good start. also the wraps do lessen airflow so a reposition may help
That's a good idea...I think centered makes sense as it opens up the back and the front.
I’ve just got a winedor and I don’t know if i mostereized the drawners too much because after i did it the winedor started leaking. Did you have this kind of issue? Congrats on your channel🇧🇷👍
@@charutostop8405 f it is dripping at the back under the fan...that is normal. You should only wipe the cedar with a damp cloth with distilled water. It should look dry again in a few hours. If you did over moisten the cedar, you can leave the humi door open until the wood drys out a little.
SoCal Cigars Tks for the tip, i’ll let the door open for a few hours! 👍
Anytime!
Too many cigars is the first thing I thought of. Cooling should still be an issue. Can't fight atmospheric properties. I have about 700 cigars in a stand up freezer that I leave off and have to humidify only in the winter a few times. I am in NY and the humidor temp will get in the low 80's in the summer but, so far no problems with anything. Holding at 70RH almost all the time. It's been about 5 years. I would be more afraid of RH than higher Temps unless you going above 82°. Just trying to help. Great channel. Good luck.
Really appreciate the info. It is great to hear what is or ins't working for someone else. I was getting many moths of 85 temps, so I figured I better solve that before I lost my collection. But now I feel like I traded on issue for another. But I am still plugging away at a solution!
I'm doing the exact same thing. I was already running a couple of tupperdors but my New Air was still filling up cause I didn't differentiate between cheap sticks and ones I didn't like much and the harder to find, expensive, and ones I love. So I'm recalibrating all my hygrometers, reseasoming the ceder and pulling out the cheap ones and duds to throw in one of the tupperdors that has some space.
I finally had to adopt a strategy...I stopped buying and started smoking! I also started giving away the sticks I rally don't love to friends. That gave me enough room to start buying a few things here and there of the sticks I really like.
Great start and good job....one more thing to consider is to take your excel and lay it on its side facing the glass door so that your humidity is hitting the glass and going straight up to the top of your humidor. Reason for this is because you have the fan blocked which cuts down circulation. I know it sounds crazy but I saw another guy on UA-cam use this method so I tried it and my humidor (same as your) stays at 70%.
I will see what I can do. The only issue is that on this 3.0 model, one side is the power cord and the other is the air intake. So perhaps I can put it right in front of the glass sitting parallel. Maybe then it will still direct the air flow up the glass.
SoCal Cigars cool..just trying to help because you was the one person who convinced me to buy the whytner 300
I would also suggest adding vent holes to the back of your drawers. I have a 250 count newair and bought drawers with vent holes in the back to help the air flow through each drawer. The Oasis plus should also help as it pushes more humidity through the system.
Thanks for the info! I know there is a guy that makes custom cedar drawers to your own specs. I think he does add more ventilation. I can easily drill out some holes in the back if I can't resolve this issue.
Great video series on your set up. Much appreciated
Thank you for watching!
Pretty cool.. keep in mine. If you ever run out of room in your humidor for those Cubans, I have plenty in mine : )
I appreciate the offer!!
Hope that works out for you. Nice pipe collection, I think that's my next goal.
I hope so too! I'm digging the pipe action too. It's another rabbit hole...so many pipes to buy!!!
Too May Cigars! A problem I wish I had.... This damn heat is supposed to go on until sometime next week! I Have been thinking about making a coolidor to get started with, but i think this heat will be problematic. Great video!!
I know people who rotate an ice pack in the cooler to keep the heat down...might work for you.
@SoCal Cigars Outstanding idea! Thanks much.
Put your sticks in a good heavy zip lock bag with a Boveda pack and put them close or in front of your air conditioning.
Same here, i need to stop looking online to prevent me from buying more. My ocd can get out of hand and am tempted to buy more. My last purchase are the cubans box of HDM Epic2 and H.Upmann Mag 50. So im here looking for advice when/how to stop 🤦🏻♂️.
I simply made a rule for myself...I need to smoke more than I buy. My stash got so big I filled my fridge humi and had to set up a Tupperware humi. I must have had over 700 cigars at one time. I also started giving my friends gift packs of cigars...usually a zip lock bag with 5-6 cigars. Mostly of cigars I 'grew' out of liking as much and where just taking up room. I am now way more selective of what I buy. I am now down to under 400 cigars in my stash. And still smoking more than I buy.
@@SoCalCigars - i appreciate the advice. Im gonna look at that route as well. I have some infused, some good ones and the not so much, i also like to share with friends and coworkers. I just need to keep smoking them. Thanks for sharing the vid! 👍🏼
Just purchased a Cleavelander humi (250 capacity)... placed 2 large BOVEDA packs (72 & 69) and two smaller 72's, set temperature at 66 (highest it will go) and waited for one week. I placed loose cigars and some in boxes, approximately 100 or so, took out the little packs and only left the two large ones. My temp stays at 66F and the humidity solid at 67/68 which is just where i want it....
I had the same set up in my two wooden humis and the humidity solid at 68 with the Bovida packs... of course the temp moved around since it followed ambient.
Swear by Boveda, maybe you should try them....
Thanks for the info. I for sure have Boveda in my sights if I can't get the current set up to work. Sounds like your nice and dialed in! My unit also only goes up to 66. Wish they went up to 70 just for more flexibility.
Good collection mate I’m just a beginner I got about 20 sticks 👍👍
As you start trying new cigars, you will begin to better understand your preferred flavor profile and can target getting good deals on exactly what like. That 20 will grow for sure. Its a great thing to enjoy and relax with.
Now it will work
I am sure hoping so!
I think the way you left so many slats open for circulation will most certainly help. I think your problem will be solved there. The only other problem I see is the coolidor. I doubt very seriously if it is air tight. Your not gonna beable to hold rh level in there. In the past what I have done is use tuperdors and Boveda packs. I would put them in the coolest place in the house, ie, a closet or basement. Or put the tuperdors into a cooler. Your air tight problem solved. Or use a heavy zip lock bags in a coolidor. Put a Boveda pack in each bag. I've had great luck doing these things. Either way, I wish you luck, I'm sure your wineador problem is solved.
Ya Mike...I am worried as well about that cooler working as it is not exactly air tight with all the zippers. I will see how it does for a few days and will then attack that. I may have to get a 10 pack of Boveda's and Ziploc them up! Thanks for the input. Much appreciated.
Maybe try putting the oasis towards the top of the humidor as water is heavier than air. It may help naturally move the humidity thru the humidor.
Hey Jack! I am going to try this. I have it now on the bottom and toward the glass door. But this is true and may offer some help for the top of the unit. Will keep you posted.
I would like to know how much money you have spent on your collection lol! That is simply amazing and beautiful
That's a great question! Many things were sales and deals...many gifts...and plenty out of my own pocket. Even at $5 per stick...It's at least about $3000.
got to this stage a few months ago and had to buy an even bigger wineador,🤣 now i have one for cubans and one for non cubans. i use boveda and mine stay a steady 65
That is on the table for me too. I would like a matching unit...one for infused and one for non. I will see how it goes and may need to just pull the trigger on that second unit!
Awesome collection, but I've always been told you shouldn't keep infused cigars with standard cigars. Be careful with your coolador remember the purpose of a humidor should be air tight.
I have heard and been told that many times. From my over 30 years of experience...I have not experienced a transfer of flavor from infused to non-infused in any of my humidors. I have also observed that every walk-in humidor in a cigar retail shop has both infused and non in the same space. They do not maintain two separate walk-in humidors, leading me to believe they are not too concerned either. If the pro's aren't even concerned, I am not either. I would say though, if it does concern anyone and they can keep them separate...no harm in that.
I wish I had this problem
Not gonna lie...I would rather have too many than too little.
You might have to stop collecting, and start smoking! 😂😂😂
Exactly! I have made a huge effort in that direction. I think I am down to less than half of my peak amount. It's just hard to pass up great deals!
your cohiba limitadas look a bit suspicous, like the band is to dark and has no shine. did u buy this from a legit retailer?
To be honest...they were a gift and I have no way to verify the source. I have smoked several and they seem legit enough. I would say that if they are fakes...they are pretty decent fakes! I did cut one open to verify they were not a nasty Cuban sandwich. I have heard of horror stories of rat poop and human hair in some fakes. These at least seemed fairly well made with decent tobacco and no weird extras.
Doesn't the cooler need to have a decent seal? I don't know that the soft sided cooler will keep humidity
I was concerned about the seal...but it is working perfect. I was actually surprised.
Awesome collection, but it seems as though you enjoy collecting them more than smoking them. Bruh smoke them sticks
I mean no disrespect. I’ve heard you mention doing everything except, either buying a second Wineador or simply purchasing a larger refrigerated cigar humidor...
I probably haven't in a video but say that often in comment replies. I an very interested in getting a matching unit and would have one for infused and one for non. I wl be putting out a new update this weekend and will mention that. Thanks for the input...much appreciated!
@Blue Savage I will keep you posted. I will either get a matching additional unit...or one larger unit. So you will be the first to know if I end up selling this one.
Where did you get those drawers?
You can get them from ambientstores.com/cigar-drawer-for-chc-251s-v1/
Buy some airtight tupperware containers
I do have one as an overflow humidor. The main issue I run in to is controlling the temp. It has been very easy to control the humidity in Tupperware though.
You should be careful with that cooler.. don't know it has an airtight seal.
I was concerned, but it has proven to hold the humidity very well! I was actually surprised.
Did this work?
So in the end...what finally worked... unfortunately ...was to unplug the humidor and not have it cool. Defeats the whole purpose. I now only plug it in on those hot days for a short time. It simply seems that when cooling the air, you pull humidity.
When is you next update?
One day this week or the weekend at the latest.
Dont think that cooler is going to help, you need a cooler tha seals, you are not going to be able yo control the humidity inside.
I was concerned about the same thing. To my surprise, it is holding perfect humidity! I think its because I have a tray of Heartfelt beads in there that is way more than needed. But, so far so good. Appreciate he comment!
This is too many????
LOL...I guess it's all relative! I have friends that maybe have 15 cigars and they are all stocked up and good to go. I also have friends with enough cigars to start a small cigar shop. So I think for me as just one guy who really only smokes a couple a week...I have more than enough! My problem is I can't pass up a good deal!
Stop collecting and start enjoying them.
I have been! I think I am down to half the sticks now.