Griselda and Trust been working together for over 10 years and they’re just getting notoriety. That’s why their craftsmanship sound so good, from years grinding together. The formula! NYC too quick to get on the radio after one hot drop. They don’t let their art curate over time.
Bro the underground scene, that "New York (and by that we mean New York City because ya'll gon get it confused) sound" never left. Ya'll just ain't here to pay attention to it, you just hear what's on the radio and TV and act like this is all there is in the city. We all know who ya'll trying to emulate 30 years after taking notes, don't worry about it. Westside done dropped 15 straight albums with the Ghostface voice, you can't tell any of them apart shit- is getting generic. And none of it touches Purple tape or any of the original articles, nice try tho.
He is nice but noone has ever been the consensus best to really be crowned king its too competitive If you remember alot of rappers took issue w the source naming Biggie King of NY
Nah. Not in these times. That old school nyc sound is not getting burn from radio or the kids in nyc. The kids dont want to hear it. Too complex, no 808 and auto tune.
Nah 38 Spesh is a monster. He rap better than a lot of folks. It doesn’t matter where he’s from or where other rappers are from because he spit it better. That’s why he got his look
Math you made a valid point its alotta ny artist rapping the same way and we not getting no looks on major radio. I still feel like the nyc djs should be playing grizelda and 38 spesh music aswell. Dope interview 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
Nah. Griselda is the second comin of The Wu. Our borough kids are drill rappers. Griselda are Authentic in their zone. The only reason New York rappers are getting love now is Because of Griselda Alum Conway The Machine. Flex got put in a corner and challenged. I personally don't like 38 because he sounds like Magoo to me but I respect him and The team.
@@Brhoward31 Not as much as 38, though... he keeps the same flow and cadence throughout the song. Dababy switches it up. You guys gotta stop being emotional. Be cold and stoic.
I'm an old head and this era of upstate NY emcees can go bar for bar with any emcee from the boroughs. Old School or new school. Spesh, Che Noir, Eto, Rigz, Conway, Benny, Westside Gunn, Elcamino, Heem, Rick Hyde, and Jamal Gasol are all crazy nice for real! And their production is immaculate. Ni**as from the boroughs can talk all the sh*t they want but upstate NY got the best emcees in this era by FAR. Peace
Aye man Rome streetz is fuckin 🔥🔥🔥🔥 dmv youngin love that buffalo shit that shit be having me hustling hard tryn feed my son I be grinding hard to all they shit
What y'all might not know is that NYC dudes come here (Buffalo) for school and they cool as hell as long as they not around other NYC dudes. When they get around other NYC dudes they (sometimes) start talking real greasy especially about what Buffalo is not. We know we not NYC and we aren't trying to be y'all we have our own thing.
Facts! But Yonkers also claims NYC, because of their close proximity. Lox & DMX both made songs bigging up or repping NYC, so there’s a grey area there as well as the rest of Westchester & Long Island . Rappers from upstate have it way harder cuz they can’t get Hot 97 or take a train or short drive to Sony for a meeting.
@@SeeSetJaeMiirTv he literally ruined that shit spesh was in rare form like it ridiculous I have heard alot of freestyles and the only one that can even come close is Cory gunz.
@@SeeSetJaeMiirTv I’m from Philly and I lost my shit when I heard 38 even though I was already familiar with 38 from the mixtapes but I was not expecting that🤯🤯🤯he blacked da fuck out on every track not missing a fucking step salute to da bul 38🔥🔥🔥💯💯💯‼️‼️‼️
@@AdonisBorn1 I don't really understand it so many MCs and Hip hop Groups from Strong Island. What Rakim, De La Soul, Keth Murrey R.I.P Craig Mac , LL was born in Long island, Method Man, R.I.P Prodigy Hempstand ,Ashanti from Glov Cov Long island, Mariah Carey, Leader of the New School, Jim Brown, R.I.P MF-DOOM EPMD ,Flava Flav and many more legendary actors. I don't mind being current if I'm wrong about anyone on the wall.
@@AdonisBorn1 Its beautiful a beautiful place . I think all the artists need to team up and do a concert for Strong Island. My dad introduced me to Rakim and I never looked back.
Seeing Spesh on Sway in the morning a couple a days ago killing it with Benny makes this interview hit different.....it's the Fuckin Consistency my boi!!!!!!!💪🏾💪🏾😎🔥🔥🔥
That’s the one thing I learned about traveling to other areas is that you can’t always bring that NY attitude with you. You have to humble your competitive nature and pride. You’ll get more love and respect that way. As far as the sound I’m glad upstate is getting their recognition. The City has had its time. In Hip Hop it should be about how nice you are, not where your from
Just show respect. It's not always the flair and the swagger... it's the disrespect and comparing every situation back to NY. "Man, this ain't how we do it in NY"... when you say that out of town somewhere to people, you know what they're thinking? "Well, take your ass back to NY then... but you couldn't make it up there, so you're down here."
@@KtotheG Yeah i learned my lesson the hard way. Although I love my city and I’m passionate about it, I still respect where ppl are from, and I carry myself accordingly.
Everything 38 said about the formula & how they did it their way was 💯 if they were from NYC they would’ve all BEEN put on! Smh I love my city & I’m so proud of Grizelda for breaking down doors & making enough noise to finally be recognized!! I been rocking with Benny’s music since he was OUR 2Chainz! #BuffaloKidsStandUp 💪🏾🗣👏🏾
I use to think Buffalo was like a corny ass place…. But ima truck driver and I took a load up there one time…. And that shit is the TRENCHES ITS GRIMY UP THAT MF TRUST ME…
@@nonbeliever4593 Jay z ,50 ,Nas been talking money talk wayyyyy before those guys came in the game..what are u talking about BOZO 😂🤣 JAY been talking DOPE BoY talk since the 90s..since u naming these rappers which I also like and listen to..what rappers out of the ones you named sold more albums out of any of their albums sold more then 50 cent Get rich or Die tryin🤔🤔🤔 also which ones had a bigger album then Hard Knock life🤔🤔 still waiting to hear..Jay influenced these niggas you talking about Clown 🤡 😂🤣
What upstate dudes gotta realize is the sound they come with is one piece of the NYC sound. The NYC sound had multiple lanes. And the most popular was the high tempo NYC sound. Benny & con is coming with laid back nyc sound. Everybody don’t jac that
Everytime someone tells me they went to school in Buffalo or moved there, they always have a story about how a Buffalo dude stuck them up and robbed them lol.
YO THSTS WHAT IM TALKING BOUT ..ESSO WENT I TJST DAY ..AND I BEEN WAITING TO SEE WHAT IT WAS GON BE WHEN GRISELDA CAME THRU ..HE WAS OUT OF LINE WITH THE ENERGY HE HAD WHEN HE WAS LIKE “FUCK A BUFFALO NIGGA”
Every 1 of my fav mcs from NYC too. Jay Big Pun Kiss Big L Az. Ain't no such thing as hip hop without NYC. 🔥🔥🔥🔥 Interview math. Keep eating bro. Upstate appreciate da love
@@MizTheDonGargon to us ppl up here. All dat shit is da same. Just like they think Albany Syracuse buffalo n Rochester is all da same lil hick town. Lil do they know..n yea we all know they rep Y.O. Rmbr on money power respect. The mad rapper. These Ngz got they own mayor. Bro I am hip hop. U can't school me
Math made a good point, but spesh answer was right. They made their independent wave big enough. I dont know 3 rappers from nyc that have worked together with their own brand and sound for as long as benny westside and conway have. If they did theyd build something big enough. FBZ have their independent audience.
I agree wit Spesh here butath also has a point. I love Joey Badass but he BEEN got his "look". Griselda as a whole has gotten their "look" as well but it wasn't the same. Flex was all over Joey because of his representation of NYC. Griselda kicked the door down for theirs. Vastly different.
joey let ebro and radio politics trick him off the streets just like Steelo. Them boys aint know they were the the golden children. Pro Era had a nice wave.
Been in Rochester for the last 26 years came here when I turned 21, From BKNY, and the love I got here made me never want to return. Definitely got that NYC FEEL TO IT. But different, Shout out to DA ROC. 2nd Home. And they get plenty paper out here. Shout out to 38, stand up dude, that's my HG Nittas cuz.
I'm from the Burgh and lived in NYC for 20 years.The issue with New York is that its isolated and has an an abundance of everything. Its a very unique place. What Spec said about them being territorial is sooo true. Cats from Brooklyn ain't trying to go to spots in Queens and so and so on. Not being from there I was trying to go everywhere and get into everything. I was trying to experience NYC not a borough, I'm trying to experience it all. But cats from there have extreme xenophobia. Its like nothing outside of NY, and specifically their borough, exists or they can't fathom that cats from other places might get it in at the level they get it or even beyond. And yes I'm generalizing. Not EVERYONE is like that but I experienced it enough to see that its part of the DNA. Its still an amazing place and I have love for everyone I met there from every borough and spots outside the boroughs as well. Hell, I even found wifey in Bed-Stuy and brought her back to the Burgh ;-)
I can easily answer the question at 9:00 it’s bc them Buffalo dudes got SWAG , it’s more than just rap them dudes are FLY ! Rap is more than bars kids gotta wanna be you, women gotta love you & men gotta respect you. Simple
NYC is it's own worse critiques,NYCers got sick of the same ol raps,styles,boroughs that come in waves to get attention,get on the radio and get a deal so the youngsters are searching for something else,something new,refreshing and it happen to come from western newyork where their not from a borough but they the listeners can understand and grasp cause their doing familiar things that doesn't make them odd but still different cause it's Newyork just not NYC.The same fans cheering will also be the same fans booing a NYC artist and when NYC finds itself again amongst the madness they'll shine but NYC hasn't been hot since 50 and G-unit,someone organic,with his own sound and a hell of a back story to go along with the music.
Yea 38 had dat talk wit esqo dam I wanted to see that cuz esqo was talking spicy nd math was like naw dey still new york pop shid on cam should be the same energy on cam when shid need to address
Naw he right I’m from Buffalo and every time I meet a nigga from the city I get oh you from there ok it’s still New York but it’s how they say it and I just chalk it up !
@@HoweyJR_ Yeah nah i get it NY is a just a big ass state and Buffalo is closer to Cleveland than it is to NYC I just find it wild that ppl with they own mayor and football team will call a whole nother city that’s 5-6 hrs away - “THEE city” as if where they live dont even count 😂 but then them same niggas will get mad at NYC cause we dont really acknowledge them like that… its like Imagine a dude from Atlantic City or Camden referring to Jersey City or Newark as “The City” 🤔 Son, you got ur own city ur own food ur own team wtfym?!😭
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Griselda and Trust been working together for over 10 years and they’re just getting notoriety. That’s why their craftsmanship sound so good, from years grinding together. The formula! NYC too quick to get on the radio after one hot drop. They don’t let their art curate over time.
Hard work dedication passion and enthusiasm
Bro the underground scene, that "New York (and by that we mean New York City because ya'll gon get it confused) sound" never left. Ya'll just ain't here to pay attention to it, you just hear what's on the radio and TV and act like this is all there is in the city. We all know who ya'll trying to emulate 30 years after taking notes, don't worry about it. Westside done dropped 15 straight albums with the Ghostface voice, you can't tell any of them apart shit- is getting generic. And none of it touches Purple tape or any of the original articles, nice try tho.
You crammed all your big words in this one lil bro
Cultivate not curate though
If Benny was from Brooklyn we would’ve been crowning him already. Son is nice no matter what. 💪🏾💪🏾
He is nice but noone has ever been the consensus best to really be crowned king its too competitive
If you remember alot of rappers took issue w the source naming Biggie King of NY
Them niggas rapping like 94 it took them niggas almost 30 years to even rap like the old heads Lmaooooo
Nah. Not in these times. That old school nyc sound is not getting burn from radio or the kids in nyc. The kids dont want to hear it. Too complex, no 808 and auto tune.
@@d3vp131
If they cant get lit 🔥 and sturdy 🕺🏾 to it… nah the kids aint feeling Griselda like that 😂
@@d3vp131 the kids don’t matter, the 90’s heads still listen to rap and they are big part of their audience without radio play.
38spesh can rap and produce good music
One of the illest the game ever seen fr just the wrong era
Facts I'm from Brooklyn 38 is nice
Nah 38 Spesh is a monster. He rap better than a lot of folks. It doesn’t matter where he’s from or where other rappers are from because he spit it better. That’s why he got his look
Son of g rap is an absolute full play through classic
album hasnt left my Playlist since it dropped
Facts
It is
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Man Eto from Rochester need to get love. Dude is crazy
Very much agree and I'm not from up north
Flour city freestyle; 😊
We need him on here
I'm from Rochester (I don't live there anymore haven't since 2005) and I'm just now finding this dude. He's dope!
Been UP on ETO since he was Lil Eto with the offering
585 stand up!💯💯💯 Rochester, NY in the building!💪
Math you made a valid point its alotta ny artist rapping the same way and we not getting no looks on major radio. I still feel like the nyc djs should be playing grizelda and 38 spesh music aswell. Dope interview 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
Nah. Griselda is the second comin of The Wu. Our borough kids are drill rappers. Griselda are Authentic in their zone.
The only reason New York rappers are getting love now is Because of Griselda Alum Conway The Machine. Flex got put in a corner and challenged.
I personally don't like 38 because he sounds like Magoo to me but I respect him and The team.
@@PHHussler 38 Spesh raps the same way on every song.
@@KtotheG nobody does it like Da baby. He literally sounds the same every track. 38 spesh is crazy nice.
Y’all gotta chill w the 38 Spesh hate, nigga rap and produce, he’s fucking nasty
@@Brhoward31 Not as much as 38, though... he keeps the same flow and cadence throughout the song. Dababy switches it up. You guys gotta stop being emotional. Be cold and stoic.
The dudes Math mentioned are NOT spitting like Spesh and Griselda! They are the Elite at what they do.
Math is dumb I wish this platform wasn’t his smh he’s wild brainless in much that he says
38 not lying he speaking facts
I'm an old head and this era of upstate NY emcees can go bar for bar with any emcee from the boroughs. Old School or new school. Spesh, Che Noir, Eto, Rigz, Conway, Benny, Westside Gunn, Elcamino, Heem, Rick Hyde, and Jamal Gasol are all crazy nice for real! And their production is immaculate. Ni**as from the boroughs can talk all the sh*t they want but upstate NY got the best emcees in this era by FAR. Peace
Ransom from Jersey City champ, but your point is well taken because NJ experience the same thing with NYC as Upstate🤦🏿♂️
@@King_Amin_of_Essex_I not at all NYC show WAY more love to MJ than their own state
Aye man Rome streetz is fuckin 🔥🔥🔥🔥 dmv youngin love that buffalo shit that shit be having me hustling hard tryn feed my son I be grinding hard to all they shit
Can't say upstate without stovegod
Èl Stampede
What y'all might not know is that NYC dudes come here (Buffalo) for school and they cool as hell as long as they not around other NYC dudes. When they get around other NYC dudes they (sometimes) start talking real greasy especially about what Buffalo is not. We know we not NYC and we aren't trying to be y'all we have our own thing.
@tranz4m i like how 38spesh worked with kool g rap and westsidegunn working with different artists and paying homage to kool g rap
We know yall up there. But it's a completely different world. Might as well be a different state.
Facts!
I always tell people the worse thing is running into a NYC dude outside NYC who just happens to be “Nino Brown” on steroids back home 😂😂😂
Buff Town. To be honest, I like New York State dudes better than the city dudes; City dudes too emo and childish.
Yonkers used to get shitted on by NYC too until Dmx and The Lox started killing shit, dudes use to think Yonkers was upstate!! Lol
Facts! But Yonkers also claims NYC, because of their close proximity. Lox & DMX both made songs bigging up or repping NYC, so there’s a grey area there as well as the rest of Westchester & Long Island . Rappers from upstate have it way harder cuz they can’t get Hot 97 or take a train or short drive to Sony for a meeting.
" Interstate 38 Got My Own Lane "
38 spesh is super nice
That’s just a hov line
38 Spesh verses on green lantern with young Chris was one of the most fire back and fourths I’ve seen, Salute to 38!
Yung Chris got his food ate !!! Tell Jay z Jr who not Memphis bleek to get back in the Stu
@@SeeSetJaeMiirTv he literally ruined that shit spesh was in rare form like it ridiculous I have heard alot of freestyles and the only one that can even come close is Cory gunz.
@@SeeSetJaeMiirTv I’m from Philly and I lost my shit when I heard 38 even though I was already familiar with 38 from the mixtapes but I was not expecting that🤯🤯🤯he blacked da fuck out on every track not missing a fucking step salute to da bul 38🔥🔥🔥💯💯💯‼️‼️‼️
This topic of "Where you from" deserves a deeper dive.
Look at Math man happy for this dude 💯
Real discourse amongst gentlemen💯
Imagine how NYC woulda viewed Staten Island if they ain't had Wu-Tang... food for thought
I still see NYC cats hate on Staten occasionally (mostly younger generation) and Long Island
Or if Staten wasn’t a borough…
@@AdonisBorn1 I don't really understand it so many MCs and Hip hop Groups from Strong Island. What Rakim, De La Soul, Keth Murrey R.I.P Craig Mac , LL was born in Long island, Method Man, R.I.P Prodigy Hempstand ,Ashanti from Glov Cov Long island, Mariah Carey, Leader of the New School, Jim Brown, R.I.P MF-DOOM EPMD ,Flava Flav and many more legendary actors. I don't mind being current if I'm wrong about anyone on the wall.
@@traviscarter1023 I agree Long Island should be stamped just from Rakim alone
@@AdonisBorn1 Its beautiful a beautiful place . I think all the artists need to team up and do a concert for Strong Island. My dad introduced me to Rakim and I never looked back.
38 speaking ALLLLL FACTS JUST SHOW LOVE TO SOMEBODY THAT’S PUTTING EFFORT TO DOING IT!
The dude sitting next to 38 spesh straight Up said phuc buffalo on that Conway convo episode
Fax
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Spesh been grindin for a minute
38 been working a long time, his grind paying off
Long asab I’m from Rochester
Esso was talking crazy before lol
The roc in the house. 💪🏿👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽💪🏿
Roc Marciano is not in the house but eventually, the God will soon be
. Wait. What is u talking about???
@@upclosenpersonal100 ROC=Rochester, NY
@@DrizzleDrizzle585 oh my bad
Spesh is absolute 🔥🔥🔥🔥. SWAY in the morning!!!!
38 Spesh the best in the game right now!!
585 in the building, Shoutout the whole MEO staff, 38 spesh and Graph 🔥💯 Rochester we making it
Seeing Spesh on Sway in the morning a couple a days ago killing it with Benny makes this interview hit different.....it's the Fuckin Consistency my boi!!!!!!!💪🏾💪🏾😎🔥🔥🔥
Math ain’t catch Spesh’s breakdown… He explained the formula…
Exactly!!
Yep, missed the entire point.
Math was too concerned about being right to catch it. Spesh already touched on that being NYC shit lol
38 is in my top 5 for real. I don't think there's too many fucking with this man. The Butcher too. Them two together on a track is something special
My hometown Rochester New York stand up 💙💙 upstate New York
I’m from Brooklyn and luv the music Griselda is putting out Benny and 38 are my favorite but conway an WSG still fire too.
38 can rap rap for real 💯
That’s the one thing I learned about traveling to other areas is that you can’t always bring that NY attitude with you. You have to humble your competitive nature and pride. You’ll get more love and respect that way. As far as the sound I’m glad upstate is getting their recognition. The City has had its time. In Hip Hop it should be about how nice you are, not where your from
@Beast Untamed Facts! You get humbled real fast when you travel.
Just show respect. It's not always the flair and the swagger... it's the disrespect and comparing every situation back to NY. "Man, this ain't how we do it in NY"... when you say that out of town somewhere to people, you know what they're thinking? "Well, take your ass back to NY then... but you couldn't make it up there, so you're down here."
@@KtotheG Yeah i learned my lesson the hard way. Although I love my city and I’m passionate about it, I still respect where ppl are from, and I carry myself accordingly.
you can def move around better being humble when you ot
@@darklight7452 Facts bro, have to move with humility out in different places. Just as you said people will definitely respect you more when you do.
Everything 38 said about the formula & how they did it their way was 💯 if they were from NYC they would’ve all BEEN put on! Smh
I love my city & I’m so proud of Grizelda for breaking down doors & making enough noise to finally be recognized!! I been rocking with Benny’s music since he was OUR 2Chainz! #BuffaloKidsStandUp 💪🏾🗣👏🏾
I use to think Buffalo was like a corny ass place…. But ima truck driver and I took a load up there one time…. And that shit is the TRENCHES ITS GRIMY UP THAT MF TRUST ME…
I personally never cared where anyone is from. There is a hood everywhere, respect is given wherever respect is received.
Very interesting conversation.
NYC Been Riding Down South Rappers Balls But No Love For Upstate NY Until Now 🤨
Bozo what NYC dudes u talking abt
@@Mr.podcasterHimself Lil Wayne young thug young Jeezy etc
@@nonbeliever4593 Jay z ,50 ,Nas been talking money talk wayyyyy before those guys came in the game..what are u talking about BOZO 😂🤣 JAY been talking DOPE BoY talk since the 90s..since u naming these rappers which I also like and listen to..what rappers out of the ones you named sold more albums out of any of their albums sold more then 50 cent Get rich or Die tryin🤔🤔🤔 also which ones had a bigger album then Hard Knock life🤔🤔 still waiting to hear..Jay influenced these niggas you talking about Clown 🤡 😂🤣
MEO= A super team with the best conversations on the net
Yo 38 spesh spittin facts. NYC competitiveness is a gift but mostly a curse. That's why people kill for tweets
I LOVE MATH!
Esso is the human Mr potato head 🤷🏿♂️🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Ransom and 38 Spesh are the 2 best Emcees in Hip Hop right now
Amen 🙌
Oh and RJ PAYNE bro
WORD!!
Spesh been a legend in the town 🔥🔥🔥 NYC gotta catch up
What upstate dudes gotta realize is the sound they come with is one piece of the NYC sound. The NYC sound had multiple lanes. And the most popular was the high tempo NYC sound. Benny & con is coming with laid back nyc sound. Everybody don’t jac that
716 stand up 💯 shoutout to the 585 as well I got family in the ROC
585 is 716
38 is on point!
It’s the same type of hate / lack of respect in the prison system from nyc
Until they find out how real Rochester & Buffalo is💯
38 Spesh is the truth and the truth is consistent we not thinking bout results we doing what we do and gonna eat regardless #truuuuuussstt
Grafh 1 of my favorite emcees of all time, & Spesh 1 of the illest doing it right now.
I always been an East coast fan and I must say that 38 spesh, Griselda brought New York back as a whole!
Roc Marci walked so they could run
38 speaking facts. TRUST!!!
"NY ni@@az will argue and NOT be sure if they're right." REALEST SHIT!!!!
Everytime someone tells me they went to school in Buffalo or moved there, they always have a story about how a Buffalo dude stuck them up and robbed them lol.
"you can't let the business supersede the culture"
38 spesh is THE BEST!! #SALUTE #TRUST #585ROCHESTER
Esso ain't have that same energy for Spesh when he was talking about upstate rappers not getting spins in the city.
YO THSTS WHAT IM TALKING BOUT ..ESSO WENT I TJST DAY ..AND I BEEN WAITING TO SEE WHAT IT WAS GON BE WHEN GRISELDA CAME THRU ..HE WAS OUT OF LINE WITH THE ENERGY HE HAD WHEN HE WAS LIKE “FUCK A BUFFALO NIGGA”
@@newelldavis1858 yeah esso was talking crazy
@@newelldavis1858 exactly. Now he quiet like a church ⛪️ 🐁. He definitely just a media dude bc he was talking wild spicy that day.
Fax 💯🎯
Cool g rap and young Chris gave it up to 38 special 💯
Every 1 of my fav mcs from NYC too. Jay Big Pun Kiss Big L Az. Ain't no such thing as hip hop without NYC. 🔥🔥🔥🔥 Interview math. Keep eating bro. Upstate appreciate da love
Jada is from Yonkers not nyc
@@MizTheDonGargon to us ppl up here. All dat shit is da same. Just like they think Albany Syracuse buffalo n Rochester is all da same lil hick town. Lil do they know..n yea we all know they rep Y.O. Rmbr on money power respect. The mad rapper. These Ngz got they own mayor. Bro I am hip hop. U can't school me
When you drinking how you feel really comes out
Math made a good point, but spesh answer was right. They made their independent wave big enough. I dont know 3 rappers from nyc that have worked together with their own brand and sound for as long as benny westside and conway have. If they did theyd build something big enough. FBZ have their independent audience.
I mean, does the Lox not count?
@@Beeyo176 the lox got on when nyc was in charge, and independence wasnt feasible in the same way, thats kind of the point
LOX not from NYC tho
if the whole Newyork linked game over simple😎
But y’all not, so game on.
Bums and haters are able to share the same characteristics. NO BACK TRACKING! Official answer. Stood on that!
Esso ain’t keep that same energy he had when he was talking bout “them Buffalo niggas”
Can’t Lie Esso Was The Main One Talking Down On Upstate It’s All Good Tho
Fax 💯
38 Spesh one of the best lyricists in the game
I Totally Agree with Grafh
Niggas been hatin on Rochester niggas but we goin apply pressure as usual nun new 💯✔
In that episode when they was talking bout Conway and buffalo.these niggas was hating..esso or what ever his name is aint got the same energy..
I agree wit Spesh here butath also has a point. I love Joey Badass but he BEEN got his "look". Griselda as a whole has gotten their "look" as well but it wasn't the same. Flex was all over Joey because of his representation of NYC. Griselda kicked the door down for theirs. Vastly different.
Yep and joey should have got dj and radio support because he had they sound. Ny djs jocking southern artist cause they had hits PERIOD.
@@jman1562001 The only reason NY djs "jock" Southern artists is because Southern djs jock Southern artists. Why don't NY djs do that?
@@ldaialoguedicaprio got ask them djs but let them tell it they say they play what's popping
@@jman1562001 this is also true
joey let ebro and radio politics trick him off the streets just like Steelo.
Them boys aint know they were the the golden children. Pro Era had a nice wave.
38 Spesh music is fire.
Math really needs to stop with acting ignorant to what is going on.
Been in Rochester for the last 26 years came here when I turned 21, From BKNY, and the love I got here made me never want to return. Definitely got that NYC FEEL TO IT. But different, Shout out to DA ROC. 2nd Home. And they get plenty paper out here. Shout out to 38, stand up dude, that's my HG Nittas cuz.
Salute Spesh, 585 we in the building
Them Boys Grinding Up State That otha Boros
Yo math you made an excellent point R.I.P To the homie Qush he was rapping like that his whole life and didn’t make it
I'm from the Burgh and lived in NYC for 20 years.The issue with New York is that its isolated and has an an abundance of everything. Its a very unique place. What Spec said about them being territorial is sooo true. Cats from Brooklyn ain't trying to go to spots in Queens and so and so on. Not being from there I was trying to go everywhere and get into everything. I was trying to experience NYC not a borough, I'm trying to experience it all. But cats from there have extreme xenophobia. Its like nothing outside of NY, and specifically their borough, exists or they can't fathom that cats from other places might get it in at the level they get it or even beyond. And yes I'm generalizing. Not EVERYONE is like that but I experienced it enough to see that its part of the DNA. Its still an amazing place and I have love for everyone I met there from every borough and spots outside the boroughs as well. Hell, I even found wifey in Bed-Stuy and brought her back to the Burgh ;-)
Are you talking NBNY (Newburgh, NY)???
@@majr6852 Pittsburgh
Brooklyn we go everywhere
This what the fuck I've been waiting on
he ain’t lying either 😂😂😂
38 is RIGHT 💯🎯
fire love this channel imma always like comment and share ! Hoffa drops more consistent than any one
CONGRATULATIONS
I can easily answer the question at 9:00 it’s bc them Buffalo dudes got SWAG , it’s more than just rap them dudes are FLY ! Rap is more than bars kids gotta wanna be you, women gotta love you & men gotta respect you. Simple
I watched that episode & Esso was talking very disrespectful about people from upstate New York...
What episode
NYC is it's own worse critiques,NYCers got sick of the same ol raps,styles,boroughs that come in waves to get attention,get on the radio and get a deal so the youngsters are searching for something else,something new,refreshing and it happen to come from western newyork where their not from a borough but they the listeners can understand and grasp cause their doing familiar things that doesn't make them odd but still different cause it's Newyork just not NYC.The same fans cheering will also be the same fans booing a NYC artist and when NYC finds itself again amongst the madness they'll shine but NYC hasn't been hot since 50 and G-unit,someone organic,with his own sound and a hell of a back story to go along with the music.
Math shout out to you… been consistent
Great convo
Good show Math
Rochester !!
Dope conversation
Yea 38 had dat talk wit esqo dam I wanted to see that cuz esqo was talking spicy nd math was like naw dey still new york pop shid on cam should be the same energy on cam when shid need to address
Aint nothin this man said was invalid. Upstate stand tf up, bout time we got some respect!!
Salute! 💪🏽👊🏽💯
Naw he right I’m from Buffalo and every time I meet a nigga from the city I get oh you from there ok it’s still New York but it’s how they say it and I just chalk it up !
Mad haters. Upstate has more soul than nyc
I never been to Buffalo
But the fact that you called NYC “the city” is interesting to me… Isn’t Buffalo the city? Lol
@@Synchronite the city by other nyers is to communicate the convo is about NYC
@@HoweyJR_
Yeah nah i get it
NY is a just a big ass state and Buffalo is closer to Cleveland than it is to NYC
I just find it wild that ppl with they own mayor and football team will call a whole nother city that’s 5-6 hrs away - “THEE city” as if where they live dont even count 😂 but then them same niggas will get mad at NYC cause we dont really acknowledge them like that… its like
Imagine a dude from Atlantic City or Camden referring to Jersey City or Newark as “The City” 🤔 Son, you got ur own city ur own food ur own team wtfym?!😭
Up State Love!
It's a great things when the Gods come together to build.
It’s definitely the noise Benny and 38 Conway was shaking shit started hearing they shit left right freestyle after another
6:30 bro with the dread and glasses threw the horns up 👀
That’s a facts these foos argue for no reason here. 😂😂😂 I see it every night.😂😂